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October 29, 2025 6 mins

Foreign Minister Winston Peters has appeared to correct the Prime Minister for taking credit on a trade deal.

Chris Luxon has confirmed New Zealand is one of a handful of nations that now has a comprehensive strategic partnership with ASEAN - and posted that he made a deal with Southeast Asian nations.

In a since-deleted tweet, Peters corrected Luxon with one word - 'we'.

Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper speculated on why Peters deleted the comment.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry so Per, senior political correspondence with us ALLO.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Okay, so one day after the CGT feeling better about
it today.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I don't know whether the label will be feeling that
good about it actually, because there's been quite a lot
of criticism. But they've they've promoted another bill today they're
bringing in, and that's the Pay Transparency Bill, and that's
been brought in by Carmel Seppaloni, the women spokesperson for
the party. She says it will mandate pay gap reporting

(00:30):
and will require employers that's with businesses of more than
one hundred and fifty staff to list the pay rangers
and job ads that they put in the paper with
the goal of shining a light on disparities and accelerating
progress on equal pay. So there's another requirement on employers

(00:51):
that will be coming their way of flavor against the
Treasury benches. Chris Hopkins today said the reintroduced the fear
pay agreements and also equity bargaining, so that's all coming back,
and he said that's essentially not a bottom line. He
wouldn't say, but yesterday's leaked policy on the capital gains

(01:15):
tax will be a bottom line in coalition negotiations if
they get to that after next year's election. So an
unequivocal Chris Hipkins made that statement today.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
This is the policy that we are campaigning on, and
this is the policy that we will implement if we
form government after the next election. Because I'm not a
complete pushover like Christopher Luxan. I don't think the smaller
parties should call all of the shots. I've been very
very clear. Under a Labor government, I will be the
Prime Minister. Barbara Edmonds will be the Minister of Finance.
That is not up for negotiation.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, well, the potential coalition partner. The Greens also see
a more widely scope capital gains tax and a wealth
tax is their bottom line, according to Chloe Swarbrick, which
will give us more than free doctors visits, a three
free doctors visits a year.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
What the Greens are proposed is a tax on the
wealthiest three percent in this country. We can have free GPS,
free dental care, free early childhood education, we can look
after our environment and protect our climate, and have a
ninety one percent income tax cut for a tax cut
for ninety one percent of New Zealanders a bottom line
tends to mean that that's the starting point and we'd
like to go a lot further.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So there you go a lot of agreement in the
lead up.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The bottom lines.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's going to exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Hey, what do you make of Winnie Pea giving luso
and nudge?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, it was. It's interesting, isn't it, Because like I've
said before that once Winston Peter, we've.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Got a work at we've got the final work at.
England's out for one hundred and seventy five. They playing
I just carry on, Barry.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, sorry, where was I Heather? I was being interrupted there,
but yes, the Winston is in Scandinavia at the moment,
and Chris Lackson, of course, he's at the East age
A summit. He was and quite a lumpur, yeah, And
he said that he posted on x that they're all

(03:07):
doing that these days, aren't they really? He said that
I've just done a deal for his words with Southeast
Asian Nations that will help grow our economy here at home.
Peters who says I said in Scandinavia he put at
the top.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Of that he reposted it rested we.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Is and that's we did.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
The work runs his own Twitter account, doesn't he does?
So did he then? Did he do that after a
few whiskies and then delete it?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, no, I wouldn't say that here. He wouldn't behave
like that, but.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
We obviously regretted it after doing it.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
I find it. I find the whole thing incredible that
politicians now go on social media at the drop of
a hat. I mean, you know, honestly, to even say
that it was deleted, do even say it does under
mine what Chris lux.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Winston Peter's the Foreign Minister, has undermined the Prime Minister,
Chris Luckson on so many things already, right, so it's not.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
The boss, you know, he's the boss and anything that
has anything to do with the Foreign Office, it's Winston.
Chris Luckson should butt out. He's the Prime Minister.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
And Paigning has done. Okay, what do you think of
this New Zealand initiative idea that we increase our our
parliamentary is pamily was a fifty.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Fifty to one. Well, you know they say it's the
thirtieth anniversary of MMP. Well it's actually not until next year.
Is the thirty thirtieth anniversary? Yeah, this is the New
Zealand initiative, and what they are saying is that, look,
we've got a small parliament one hundred and twenty MPs
and we've got one hundred and twenty three at the
moment with the overhang, but they're saying we should increase

(04:51):
it to a one hundred and seventy. Well, I looked
up a number of countries and in fact we are
a very small parliament. Yes, or five million people. I mean,
Ireland has got several hundred MPs, they've got two chambers.
Look at Finland, the Nordic countries, they've got over two
hundred MP's for the similar sort of population. So we

(05:14):
are quite small. But for goodness sake, I don't think
we should have any more MPs than what we've got
at the marment.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
But the problem that we've got is we may have
actually quite a small parliament, but we have got an
enormous local body.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Actually more.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
There are one hundred and seventy politicians in Auckland and
those are just local body politicians. So I'm happy to
do a deal, get an AX and we just take
to local body politicians and we can have more central.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
We'll have to join the New Zealand Initiative, Heather, and
give your views idea.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
OK, thanks very much, appreciate it Bury so for senior
political correspondent that Bury. Its the black Caps. By the way.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
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