Andrew Bayly, the MP for Port Waikato, stood down as ACC and Commerce and Consumer Affairs Minister after allegations of unprofessional behaviour.
While speaking to Newstalk ZB yesterday Bayly said he was told the allegations made against him had been corroborated by three other people - he now has evidence it was not.
Speaking from Korea overnight Luxon reiterated he would have fired Bayly had he not resigned.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now he's so bad.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Good Andrew, how are you very well?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
He is not here because she's gone to Melbourne to
see Oasis with the Concert Club. And I'm surprised that
you didn't go as well, because, as I said, when
you walked and I could see you in a mosh
pit wearing the hat doing the jump.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But someone has to look after the kids.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So the big story, of course is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor,
and this affects us because of our constitution. Obviously we
have to we'll have to react to this properly.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well we do because at the moment Andrew Windsor is
eighth in line to the throne. Now it's beyond the king,
King Charles to make that change. And the change I
think is inevitable that he will be because he's not
obviously not seen to be fit to be a royal,
(00:49):
so he obviously could never be a monarch, even if
he is eighth in line to it. So there is
legislation that we have to enact to bring that about.
And that's not only in New Zealand, it's in England
and all those countries who belong to the Commonwealth realm.
They've got to move the same act, and I think
(01:09):
everybody will. I mean, the audacity of this man, I
think has been incredible. And somebody said to me today
there's a book come out. I think it's called Entitled,
and they've suggested that I read it because it is
about Sarah Ferguson and Andrew and they said, it's unbelievable
(01:30):
reading about entitlement. Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Of course. I started my program by saying that before
the Epstein stuff, he was already getting up our noses
because he believed that he should get money. He was
parlaying their family name all over the place for us
for almost no influence whatsoever, but he believed that he
was worth it. I mean, the arrogance of the man
is astounding.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Is you know, it's an ignomen is ignominious way to
end something like this in somebody's life. But honestly, I
think I don't think there will be any regret comes
to the queen, though, will be turning in her grave
because he was her favorite.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Son, Yeah, which is probably why she couldn't do it.
But of course Charles can do it, because you know
how brothers are. And I reckon that. William actually said, look, Dad,
look when I take over. I want a clean sheet,
I want a fresh start.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, apparently William is planning to remove not royal titles,
but a money paid to anyone that is not a
working royal, So you know he's going to make changes
as well. But the sounds of.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Things, look, it was very moving radio for me yesterday
listening to have the show with you, and of course
the scoop you had Andrew Bailey. It turns out there
was no complaint and the investigation was only partly fulfilled,
and he felt that it was bad and so he resigned.
And of course then we had the whole issue of
the Prime Minister not being able to answer if he
could sack him. And I felt very very sad for Andrew.
(02:48):
Those sorts of things ruin a name. You said a
very smart things to me this afternoon that you know,
the first thing if you google Andrew Bailey, the first
thing will come up is an accusation that was never made.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
He had resigned under a class well. In fact, the
only cloud was misrepresentation that he was told that three
witnesses to his behavior and grabbing a young man's arm
above the elbow, and he says he grabbed it he
was jousting with him saying we can do this, and
(03:19):
that was misconstrued and a Department of Internal Affairs inquiry
hadn't even begun when he was told by the Prime
Minister's offers that in fact, he was.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Very bad kills him very seriously, very serious, is very bad.
But what I like then is that you and Heather
both said, well, this actually explains that car wreck of
an interview that Mike Hoskin did with the Prime Minister
where he couldn't answer a question in three minutes time
about whether he would have sacked and Bailey. So the
Prime Minister was asked about this overnight.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, he was about midnight last night. He said, then
quite plainly, he would have snacked Andrew Bailey if he
hadn't resigned for what. I'm not sure. But Luxan then
went on to say he had faith in the Department
of Internal Affairs.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I trust DIA and the bottom line is that I
had information at the time and information today. I look
at it and I go Yep. He made the right decision.
It was his choice to resign. There were concerns that
were raised with DIA. They were put to Andrew. He
made a decision to resign and I accepted that resignation.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, I've got a letter in front of me from
the Department of Internal Affairs and it simply said that
number one, no formal complaint has was or has been
made about mister Bailey's conduct. The DIA had not commenced
or concluded an investigation into the matter, and yet he
(04:48):
was being told something else. Now, that is a letter
right out of a letter from the DIA. In back
of my I think this man has been badly treated.
He doesn't blame the Prime Minister's department, and probably rightly so,
because they acted on what they had been told by
the DOAH.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
The Prime Minister was just as miss miss misinformed as
Andrew Bailey was. Yes, gotta go, gotta go, a miss Barry,
You're back. Barry will be back after six reviewing the
entire week in politics. This is News Talk to you be.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
For more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
News Talks It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Now he's so bad.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Good Andrew, how are you very well?
Speaker 1 (00:03):
He is not here because she's gone to Melbourne to
see Oasis with the Concert Club. And I'm surprised that
you didn't go as well, because, as I said, when
you walked and I could see you in a mosh
pit wearing the hat doing the jump.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But someone has to look after the kids.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So the big story, of course is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor,
and this affects us because of our constitution. Obviously we
have to we'll have to react to this properly.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well we do because at the moment Andrew Windsor is
eighth in line to the throne. Now it's beyond the king,
King Charles to make that change. And the change I
think is inevitable that he will be because he's not
obviously not seen to be fit to be a royal,
(00:49):
so he obviously could never be a monarch, even if
he is eighth in line to it. So there is
legislation that we have to enact to bring that about.
And that's not only in New Zealand, it's in England
and all those countries who belong to the Commonwealth realm.
They've got to move the same act, and I think
(01:09):
everybody will. I mean, the audacity of this man, I
think has been incredible. And somebody said to me today
there's a book come out. I think it's called Entitled,
and they've suggested that I read it because it is
about Sarah Ferguson and Andrew and they said, it's unbelievable
(01:30):
reading about entitlement. Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Of course. I started my program by saying that before
the Epstein stuff, he was already getting up our noses
because he believed that he should get money. He was
parlaying their family name all over the place for us
for almost no influence whatsoever, but he believed that he
was worth it. I mean, the arrogance of the man
is astounding.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Is you know, it's an ignomen is ignominious way to
end something like this in somebody's life. But honestly, I
think I don't think there will be any regret comes
to the queen, though, will be turning in her grave
because he was her favorite.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Son, Yeah, which is probably why she couldn't do it.
But of course Charles can do it, because you know
how brothers are. And I reckon that. William actually said, look, Dad,
look when I take over. I want a clean sheet,
I want a fresh start.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Well, apparently William is planning to remove not royal titles,
but a money paid to anyone that is not a
working royal, So you know he's going to make changes
as well. But the sounds of.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Things, look, it was very moving radio for me yesterday
listening to have the show with you, and of course
the scoop you had Andrew Bailey. It turns out there
was no complaint and the investigation was only partly fulfilled,
and he felt that it was bad and so he resigned.
And of course then we had the whole issue of
the Prime Minister not being able to answer if he
could sack him. And I felt very very sad for Andrew.
(02:48):
Those sorts of things ruin a name. You said a
very smart things to me this afternoon that you know,
the first thing if you google Andrew Bailey, the first
thing will come up is an accusation that was never made.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
He had resigned under a class well. In fact, the
only cloud was misrepresentation that he was told that three
witnesses to his behavior and grabbing a young man's arm
above the elbow, and he says he grabbed it he
was jousting with him saying we can do this, and
(03:19):
that was misconstrued and a Department of Internal Affairs inquiry
hadn't even begun when he was told by the Prime
Minister's offers that in fact, he was.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Very bad kills him very seriously, very serious, is very bad.
But what I like then is that you and Heather
both said, well, this actually explains that car wreck of
an interview that Mike Hoskin did with the Prime Minister
where he couldn't answer a question in three minutes time
about whether he would have sacked and Bailey. So the
Prime Minister was asked about this overnight.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yes, he was about midnight last night. He said, then
quite plainly, he would have snacked Andrew Bailey if he
hadn't resigned for what. I'm not sure. But Luxan then
went on to say he had faith in the Department
of Internal Affairs.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I trust DIA and the bottom line is that I
had information at the time and information today. I look
at it and I go Yep. He made the right decision.
It was his choice to resign. There were concerns that
were raised with DIA. They were put to Andrew. He
made a decision to resign and I accepted that resignation.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, I've got a letter in front of me from
the Department of Internal Affairs and it simply said that
number one, no formal complaint has was or has been
made about mister Bailey's conduct. The DIA had not commenced
or concluded an investigation into the matter, and yet he
(04:48):
was being told something else. Now, that is a letter
right out of a letter from the DIA. In back
of my I think this man has been badly treated.
He doesn't blame the Prime Minister's department, and probably rightly so,
because they acted on what they had been told by
the DOAH.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
The Prime Minister was just as miss miss misinformed as
Andrew Bailey was. Yes, gotta go, gotta go, a miss Barry,
You're back. Barry will be back after six reviewing the
entire week in politics. This is News Talk to you be.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
For more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
News Talks It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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