February 28, 2025 • 6 mins
Senior Political Correspondent Barry Soper joins Ryan Bridge to wrap the political week, from citizens arrests, to Andrew Bayly falling on his sword.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Very sober. As our senior political correspondent, he's with us
every Friday to wrap the week. That was Barry, Hello again,
Good a Ryan, Good to have you back. So get
the retailers. Are they going to start tackling these shoplifters.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, you know, if you listen to the reaction, Ryan,
you'd say, that's what is The expectation is that anytime
a crop comes in, burly or not, he'll be tackled
by a poor store owner and the store owner will
be worse off. But it's not going to be that way.
I mean, this has got to go through a select
committee process for a start before the law comes into being,
(00:35):
so there'll be a lot of submissions made on it.
But the thing is it gives them that tool if
they want to use it. It's some toe rag at
fourteen wanders in to grab a couple of packets and cigarette.
Then the store owner can detain them and call the cops,
and the cops can come and do what they will
with them. And it's like you know, Goldriz Garriman, as
(00:56):
I talked to you earlier this week, she was leaving
a shop with a tote bag. Somebody wanted to look
in it, she had stolen property in it, she wouldn't
turn it over and left the shop, only to have
it delivered later by somebody else. But you know, you
would tackle somebody like that. But if he's a early
one hundred and twenty cagey big fellow walking out of
(01:19):
a supermarket with a trolley full of stolen goods, you're
hardly likely as a store owner or an employee of
the company to tackle the person.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
No, probably not, and probably will apply more to the
dairies than to any other big markets anyway. Now, Andrew
Bailey falling on his sword this week, it was all
a bit weird and hush where it was last week technically,
but then falling.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
On carried on and on and on and now we
only found out about it this week. Yeah, well, you know,
the nobody actually has really said what occurred. And you
will have heard Mike hosking and that laborious three minutes
of him trying to get the Prime Minister to admit
that he would have sacked him if he hadn't fallen
(02:01):
on his sword. Well, the fact is, Mike I felt
was going totally over the top because everything he's complained
about the media and that's basically us being obsessed with
a sacking culture, us concentrating on the minushai, us doing
all sorts of things. He did everything himself as an interviewer.
(02:23):
When he interviewed the Prime minister, the Prime Minister was
reluctant to say he would sack him. He simply mentioned
the word demote, so Mike didn't quite get the sack
that he wanted, that he had accused the media of
being bloody minded about in the past. Nevertheless, that having
been said, I think the explanation could be and I've
done a lot of work around the beehive talking to
(02:44):
people that are fairly close to the situation. It wasn't
a sackable offense. Basically, it was a newbie in his office,
a young person that wasn't used to the cut and
thrust of politics. Obviously, Andrew Bailey is a tactile man.
If you know him, he's always touching.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
People, even if you don't know him. He's a tech con,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And he touched this guy on the The guy lodged
a formal complaint and Bailey looked at it and thought,
this has now got to go through a process. I
can't be bothered anymore, that says, I understand it. So
he said, okay, I'll resign my portfolios.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Which is what would have made it so difficult for
the Prime Minister to answer the question right, because because
you don't, you don't want to say I wouldn't have
sacked him, because then everyone on the other side will go, oh,
for goodness sake.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You're a week, you're a weekly, you're a week.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And he's punched him or something, you know. So anyway,
all right, let's move on legislation to be introduced. This
is for a four year term of parliament. But mean,
it's a long, complicated process. Berry, It's going to take
a lot longer than four years to get there.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, look, it's a typical David Seymour. And this is
not to insult David Seymour, but if you look at
the end of Life Choice Bill. He introduced them and
it went on and on for years, Treaty Settlements Bill.
The idea is out there, people cogitate on the idea,
they debate it similarly. Four year term and I think
you know, David Tema was pretty good at doing this,
(04:13):
putting out an idea, getting the public like we are
at the moment to discuss it and have a thought
about it, and then maybe further down the track there
will be a binding referendum on it. I think there
would be an appetite now as there wasn't too previous
referenda to vote it down. I think people would vote
for the interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I've done my column on for the Heal on Sunday
saying exactly the opposite, Barry, So, I've never read it that, Hey,
the Chinese warships and now the Chinese ambassador to Australia
has come out and has said, well, we've got nothing
to apologize for this, and we're going to keep doing this.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They'll do it more often. He's suggesting that. So, yeah,
the Chinese are not being apologetic at all, and it
comes as no surprise. I mean, you know, they were
within their rights internationally. I don't know whether they are
in the rights to go in the Australian economic zone,
but nevertheless they did and they've been there.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But as long as they went fishing, I think that's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay, that's actually true. It is, yeah, I mean the
live firing exercise, you would think they would have had
the good, well not the good, the good diplomatic duty
to let both Australia New Zealand nine. We had to
divert flight and that's quite serious, so you know, I
(05:31):
think they had to know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Finally, you have to hand it to the Brits, don't
you going to the White House with all of the charm.
I mean it was brown nosing. It's at its worst,
but with the charm and the letter from the King,
and Trump was just a peg and shit, wasn't he Well?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Like I said earlier, you know, Trump loves the sort
of adoration and kiss starmer, the left of center prime
minister from Britain getting on with the right of center
president of the United States, and the way he did,
he knew to charm Trump charm was falling over himself,
oozing with charm. I mean, to watch them together, I
(06:09):
found it highly amusing.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes, so did I. And he kept saying, this letter
is unprecedented, exactly rimming.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Here he is and he'll be back.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Very soph for great to see you, Nice to talk
to you, Ryan, Good on you, ver Verry so for
senior political correspondent from News TALKSHB For more from Hither
Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to news talks. It'd be
from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
Very sober. As our senior political correspondent, he's with us
every Friday to wrap the week. That was Barry, Hello again,
Good a Ryan, Good to have you back. So get
the retailers. Are they going to start tackling these shoplifters.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, you know, if you listen to the reaction, Ryan,
you'd say, that's what is The expectation is that anytime
a crop comes in, burly or not, he'll be tackled
by a poor store owner and the store owner will
be worse off. But it's not going to be that way.
I mean, this has got to go through a select
committee process for a start before the law comes into being,
(00:35):
so there'll be a lot of submissions made on it.
But the thing is it gives them that tool if
they want to use it. It's some toe rag at
fourteen wanders in to grab a couple of packets and cigarette.
Then the store owner can detain them and call the cops,
and the cops can come and do what they will
with them. And it's like you know, Goldriz Garriman, as
(00:56):
I talked to you earlier this week, she was leaving
a shop with a tote bag. Somebody wanted to look
in it, she had stolen property in it, she wouldn't
turn it over and left the shop, only to have
it delivered later by somebody else. But you know, you
would tackle somebody like that. But if he's a early
one hundred and twenty cagey big fellow walking out of
(01:19):
a supermarket with a trolley full of stolen goods, you're
hardly likely as a store owner or an employee of
the company to tackle the person.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
No, probably not, and probably will apply more to the
dairies than to any other big markets anyway. Now, Andrew
Bailey falling on his sword this week, it was all
a bit weird and hush where it was last week technically,
but then falling.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
On carried on and on and on and now we
only found out about it this week. Yeah, well, you know,
the nobody actually has really said what occurred. And you
will have heard Mike hosking and that laborious three minutes
of him trying to get the Prime Minister to admit
that he would have sacked him if he hadn't fallen
(02:01):
on his sword. Well, the fact is, Mike I felt
was going totally over the top because everything he's complained
about the media and that's basically us being obsessed with
a sacking culture, us concentrating on the minushai, us doing
all sorts of things. He did everything himself as an interviewer.
(02:23):
When he interviewed the Prime minister, the Prime Minister was
reluctant to say he would sack him. He simply mentioned
the word demote, so Mike didn't quite get the sack
that he wanted, that he had accused the media of
being bloody minded about in the past. Nevertheless, that having
been said, I think the explanation could be and I've
done a lot of work around the beehive talking to
(02:44):
people that are fairly close to the situation. It wasn't
a sackable offense. Basically, it was a newbie in his office,
a young person that wasn't used to the cut and
thrust of politics. Obviously, Andrew Bailey is a tactile man.
If you know him, he's always touching.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
People, even if you don't know him. He's a tech con,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And he touched this guy on the The guy lodged
a formal complaint and Bailey looked at it and thought,
this has now got to go through a process. I
can't be bothered anymore, that says, I understand it. So
he said, okay, I'll resign my portfolios.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Which is what would have made it so difficult for
the Prime Minister to answer the question right, because because
you don't, you don't want to say I wouldn't have
sacked him, because then everyone on the other side will go, oh,
for goodness sake.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
You're a week, you're a weekly, you're a week.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
And he's punched him or something, you know. So anyway,
all right, let's move on legislation to be introduced. This
is for a four year term of parliament. But mean,
it's a long, complicated process. Berry, It's going to take
a lot longer than four years to get there.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, look, it's a typical David Seymour. And this is
not to insult David Seymour, but if you look at
the end of Life Choice Bill. He introduced them and
it went on and on for years, Treaty Settlements Bill.
The idea is out there, people cogitate on the idea,
they debate it similarly. Four year term and I think
you know, David Tema was pretty good at doing this,
(04:13):
putting out an idea, getting the public like we are
at the moment to discuss it and have a thought
about it, and then maybe further down the track there
will be a binding referendum on it. I think there
would be an appetite now as there wasn't too previous
referenda to vote it down. I think people would vote
for the interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I've done my column on for the Heal on Sunday
saying exactly the opposite, Barry, So, I've never read it that, Hey,
the Chinese warships and now the Chinese ambassador to Australia
has come out and has said, well, we've got nothing
to apologize for this, and we're going to keep doing this.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They'll do it more often. He's suggesting that. So, yeah,
the Chinese are not being apologetic at all, and it
comes as no surprise. I mean, you know, they were
within their rights internationally. I don't know whether they are
in the rights to go in the Australian economic zone,
but nevertheless they did and they've been there.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
But as long as they went fishing, I think that's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Okay, that's actually true. It is, yeah, I mean the
live firing exercise, you would think they would have had
the good, well not the good, the good diplomatic duty
to let both Australia New Zealand nine. We had to
divert flight and that's quite serious, so you know, I
(05:31):
think they had to know.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Finally, you have to hand it to the Brits, don't
you going to the White House with all of the charm.
I mean it was brown nosing. It's at its worst,
but with the charm and the letter from the King,
and Trump was just a peg and shit, wasn't he Well?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Like I said earlier, you know, Trump loves the sort
of adoration and kiss starmer, the left of center prime
minister from Britain getting on with the right of center
president of the United States, and the way he did,
he knew to charm Trump charm was falling over himself,
oozing with charm. I mean, to watch them together, I
(06:09):
found it highly amusing.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yes, so did I. And he kept saying, this letter
is unprecedented, exactly rimming.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Here he is and he'll be back.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Very soph for great to see you, Nice to talk
to you, Ryan, Good on you, ver Verry so for
senior political correspondent from News TALKSHB For more from Hither
Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to news talks. It'd be
from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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