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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, damn it since I US correspondent. Hi Dan, Hey,
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good afternoon. Yeah, good to have you here. Let's start
with Gene Heckman and his pianist wife Bitsy. They were
found did at home. Also did was one of the dogs.
Do we have any idea what happened here?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
This is just such a fascinating case. At first investigators
were saying there was nothing suspicious, and to answer your question, no,
we don't know what happened at this point. Autopsies are
being conducted on both the bodies. We know at this
point the cause of death doesn't appear to be carbon monoxide,
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which the family of Gene Hackman originally thought. But his
body was found in the mudroom. Her body was found
in the bathroom with a prescription bottle of pills scattered
around the countertop and a heater that had been moved
by there. As you mentioned the dog, one of the
dogs was found dead as well. There doesn't seem to
be any sign of a break in or problems like this,
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so this really is a head scratcher. We may not
know for weeks what caused these three deaths.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
A lot of people at the start, because there were
two humans and a dog, thinking on, maybe this is
a gas leak, but that's been ruled out.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, gas company, you tested the gas lines in around
the home. But you know, within hours after the bodies
had been discovered, according to the search war and they
didn't find any signs of problems. The fire department didn't
find any signs of carbon monoxide leaks or poisonings right there.
And a detective just a short time ago came out
and said, there's just no obvious signs of any kind
of gas leak there. But that being said, people that
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are exposed to gas leaks or carbon monoxide might not
show signs of poisoning. So I think that's why we're
going to have to wait until we find out what
the autopsy reveals.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
And the door was open, that's correct, isn't it the
front door it arrived it was.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That was the only thing they found a little strange there,
because they did have one of the gardeners for the
area had called nine one one two report that he
had seen a body inside the house and didn't appear
to be moving, and at first they thought, well, maybe
they had only been dead for a day or so,
but then we learned earlier this afternoon that the bodies
appear to have been mummified, which indicates that they've been
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dead for a number of days at least.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Okay, let's talk all about these Jeffrey Epstein files. That
the Trump administration has released the first document dumps taking place,
what do we know, Well, this.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Is interesting because they had been this has been a
big bruja ha all day long. We kept waiting and
waiting and waiting, and then they finally had dumped this
just a short time ago, and there's no big revelations. Instead,
where we've got celebrities and politicians who were already known
to have who have hung around with Epstein, a notorious pedophile.
Right now. The New York Post had said this before
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this was even dumped, that we probably knew a lot
of these names, and they included Mick Jagger and Michael
Jackson and Alec Baldwin and the mother of Robert F.
Kennedy Junior Courtney Love, who's a rocker and former governor
of New York as well. And these are really just
names teams. The President's name, by the way, because everybody
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was wondering is his name going to be on the
contact list, was not on the list, and this is
not a client list, but just includes names of people
on his contact list. So we're going to have to
wait and see if anything comes to lighten the second dump,
and we're not sure when that's going to happen at
this point.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, just finally, we've spoken a lot of this outternoon
already about President Trump and the UK Prime Minister Sakis Dama.
What is the American priest making of the meeting?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, I think, like you said, I mean, there's nobody
that says no to President Trump. Really, I think people
are and I'm no disrespect to the British PM, but
I think people are actually looking beyond him too tomorrow
when President Trump is going to meet with Ukraine's president
to sign this minerals deal. But as for today, I
think there were a lot of questions. One reporter had
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asked whether he and the PM and the President had
discussed the desire to annex Canada as the fifty first state,
and the PM said, I think you're trying to find
a divide between us doesn't exist, and Trump just kind
of blew that reporter wing and let's let's let's move on. Really,
But a while of the interaction I think was very friendly,
very chummy, although there was one point where the President
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was corrected by the British Prime Minister, but it seemed
to go pretty well, I would.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Say, interesting stuff. Dan, Thanks so much for that, Dan Mitchison,
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