May 14, 2025 • 4 mins
An Australian will take the helm of Team New Zealand in their next defence of the America's Cup.
Nathan Outteridge - part of the crew that retained the Auld Mug last year - will step up to skipper after Peter Burling walked away from the syndicate.
Three-time Cup-winning helmsman and Olympic gold medallist Burling announced last month he was parting ways with the Kiwi syndicate.
Sportstalk host D'Arcy Waldegrave explains further.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Darcy Watergrave sports talk coasters with me right now?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, Dars, do we talk about sport today as opposed
to shoes, wonderpants everything else.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Actually, I'll tell you what I'm hi here we go.
I am fascinated by this Nathan our Forridge. What do
we know about him?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, he's successful, he's an Australian. He was with the
team last time around when they won or defended the
America's Cup, so he knows what's going on. He understands
the cut of the jib of team news Illan, so
that this is good. We've got Chris Draper. He's been
a bit of a we you call him, and every man,
(00:33):
a bit of a journey man, a bit of a
guy who's been. He's been. He's sailed with a number
of teams in the America's Cups. Who knows it. But
he's an Englishman, right, So the big thing here and
this is in my humble opinion, and people might shout
that down I thought, and the deed of gift is
not out or not the deed of gift. It might
go back to that. But the rules of engagement, the
protocol has not been set yet. It's coming out soon.
(00:56):
Around eligibility. Now, I believe that back for a while
there they were like, no, we want New Zealanders running
for Team New Zealand. You allowed one or two other
passport members, but otherwise it needs to be a New
Zealand representative team. Now that hasn't been settled yet between
the defender and the challenger, and that's probably coming out
soon where the actual event's going to be held. So
(01:20):
I think they looked at in bitter Eario Leny and
they're like, we've got to do something about this. Otherwise
he's not going to sale. He's gone anyway now because
it's no one there my big question and we'll be
joined by Peter Lester for America's Cup sailor Pundit a
wonderful guy and knows the sport inside out around eligibility.
Because to me, this says to the sailing community of
(01:43):
New Zealand, there's no one else could enough. I don't
like that. It's hard enough that the Cup's not being
sailed for. It's difficult enough.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Saying or are they just saying there is nobody in
New Zealand as good as Nathan Outeriche.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, this is the question, though, do you go for
the absolute pure talent to win, or do you look
at developing fresh talent coming through. Is there somebody who
sails that can be up to speed. We're not talking
on twenty twenty seven, right and Burling young man, he
came into the trade. He's done pretty well. I just
from a New Zealand point of view that we know
(02:19):
that here we go again, the ships sailed. When it
comes to the ability of the team to call themselves
a New Zealand team, was it not right?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Is this the first time we've had a not New
Zealand or as the skipper?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, because Glenn Ashby was involved a couple of years
ago and Nathan Outwidge was kind of cohelming last time around,
so we have had involvement. But it was quite strong.
And you remember this right, going hey, we need to
look at what they didn't want was a Berturelli rolling
over from the other side of the world and handpicking
(02:54):
all of our best sailors, running away and winning the cup,
which has happened before. So you understand that it's being
defended here and people feel a little adrift. I'm going
to stop this. That makes it difficult when suddenly the
best is surely, surely with the talent that we've got
here in New Zealand, coming through all the difference.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I've got to tell you something.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You don't care.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's not our team. It's called Team New Zealand. But
it's Grant's team. It's adults team.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So it's Team Grant.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's Team Grant. And so there is no it's not
it's not incumbent on him to pick a key. He
could pick whoever he wants is his team.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And they talked about that, people like us turning around
holding into account's such a carry. And I'm not crying
last night here we are. We had such good talk
about this yesterday, about the thirtieth anniversary of the amazing
(03:52):
America's Cup victory. And here we are the next day
and it's a multinational side.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's right. I look forward to it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Thanks for telling me off here, that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
As per Darcy Waldgrave, sports talk host. For more from
Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd
be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Darcy Watergrave sports talk coasters with me right now?
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hey, Dars, do we talk about sport today as opposed
to shoes, wonderpants everything else.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Actually, I'll tell you what I'm hi here we go.
I am fascinated by this Nathan our Forridge. What do
we know about him?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, he's successful, he's an Australian. He was with the
team last time around when they won or defended the
America's Cup, so he knows what's going on. He understands
the cut of the jib of team news Illan, so
that this is good. We've got Chris Draper. He's been
a bit of a we you call him, and every man,
(00:33):
a bit of a journey man, a bit of a
guy who's been. He's been. He's sailed with a number
of teams in the America's Cups. Who knows it. But
he's an Englishman, right, So the big thing here and
this is in my humble opinion, and people might shout
that down I thought, and the deed of gift is
not out or not the deed of gift. It might
go back to that. But the rules of engagement, the
protocol has not been set yet. It's coming out soon.
(00:56):
Around eligibility. Now, I believe that back for a while
there they were like, no, we want New Zealanders running
for Team New Zealand. You allowed one or two other
passport members, but otherwise it needs to be a New
Zealand representative team. Now that hasn't been settled yet between
the defender and the challenger, and that's probably coming out
soon where the actual event's going to be held. So
(01:20):
I think they looked at in bitter Eario Leny and
they're like, we've got to do something about this. Otherwise
he's not going to sale. He's gone anyway now because
it's no one there my big question and we'll be
joined by Peter Lester for America's Cup sailor Pundit a
wonderful guy and knows the sport inside out around eligibility.
Because to me, this says to the sailing community of
(01:43):
New Zealand, there's no one else could enough. I don't
like that. It's hard enough that the Cup's not being
sailed for. It's difficult enough.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Saying or are they just saying there is nobody in
New Zealand as good as Nathan Outeriche.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, this is the question, though, do you go for
the absolute pure talent to win, or do you look
at developing fresh talent coming through. Is there somebody who
sails that can be up to speed. We're not talking
on twenty twenty seven, right and Burling young man, he
came into the trade. He's done pretty well. I just
from a New Zealand point of view that we know
(02:19):
that here we go again, the ships sailed. When it
comes to the ability of the team to call themselves
a New Zealand team, was it not right?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Is this the first time we've had a not New
Zealand or as the skipper?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, because Glenn Ashby was involved a couple of years
ago and Nathan Outwidge was kind of cohelming last time around,
so we have had involvement. But it was quite strong.
And you remember this right, going hey, we need to
look at what they didn't want was a Berturelli rolling
over from the other side of the world and handpicking
(02:54):
all of our best sailors, running away and winning the cup,
which has happened before. So you understand that it's being
defended here and people feel a little adrift. I'm going
to stop this. That makes it difficult when suddenly the
best is surely, surely with the talent that we've got
here in New Zealand, coming through all the difference.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I've got to tell you something.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You don't care.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
It's not our team. It's called Team New Zealand. But
it's Grant's team. It's adults team.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So it's Team Grant.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's Team Grant. And so there is no it's not
it's not incumbent on him to pick a key. He
could pick whoever he wants is his team.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
And they talked about that, people like us turning around
holding into account's such a carry. And I'm not crying
last night here we are. We had such good talk
about this yesterday, about the thirtieth anniversary of the amazing
(03:52):
America's Cup victory. And here we are the next day
and it's a multinational side.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's right. I look forward to it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Thanks for telling me off here, that's right.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
As per Darcy Waldgrave, sports talk host. For more from
Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd
be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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