Elliott Smith: Sportstalk host on Jason Holland's departure from All Blacks coaching role

All Blacks assistant coach Jason Holland will finish up in the role when his current contract concludes at the end of the 2025 season. 

Holland confirmed his decision to All Blacks head coach Scott Robertson after the second Bledisloe Cup test match earlier this month.

The players were informed today on the first day of camp ahead of tomorrow's departure for the Northern Tour. 

Sportstalk host Elliott Smith explained what we know so far.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Elliot Smith's sports talkhosters with.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Me high l Why Heather, Sorry, I'm just enjoying a
conversation about ozempic in.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Do you know what I was googled? Is ozempek a
banned substance? Or is in sport?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
And Wader is monitoring it this year, so they're keeping
an eye on it. I think very slow power.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
They're just looking for any reason to have more power
over something.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
They're power hungry, now, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It'll be interesting to see how that goes, actually, because
I mean, it shouldn't be banned, should it? Because all
it does is it basically makes you lose mustle No.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
But then you think about Shane Warren Rop who took
that diarretic that supposedly his mum gave him and he
lost all that weight, that water weight that he'd been
carried and that was a banned substance.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
But you can see how losing well, you can see
why losing water weight is important because if you need
to get under a weight thing, a threshold for boxing
or whatever other sport, and I suppose you could say
ozempic would be the same.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It would probably be the same way fast. Yeah. I
haven't heard of any sports people doing it as yet,
but maybe overseas that has too smart, possibly and they
know it's likely to be banned probably at some point
because everything's banned.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I don't want to make themselves chuck up over nothing. Okay, listen,
Jason Holland. Now he is going to leave the All Blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Why his contract is up after the season and he
decided not to seek a contract renewal, is what we're
hearing today. He was on a two year contract extension.
Scott Robson's on a four year contract deal at the moment,
so it would have been something that would have been
coming up in the coming weeks that they would have
been talking about this. But he's decided to front foot

(01:39):
it and say I don't want to contract renewal. So
if you wanted to stay on, I'm sure he would
have been seeking one. It clearly says that he doesn't
want to be part of this environment.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Okay, so either he's unhappy or he's not very good, or.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
He wouldn't didn't think he was going to get a
contract renewal of the two. Do you think I suspect
that the pressure would have been on from Scott Robertson
to maybe make some changes to the coaching environment regardless
of how this interview tour goes, and maybe Jason Holland
felt you like he wouldn't be in a good position
to stick around together.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Can now tell me how to pronounce this woman's name,
the number twenty seven, Marta Kostjuk. Okay, So, Marta Kostjuk
says that she can't beat the number one and the
number two in the women's game because they have more
testosterone than her and it's kicked things off of her.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, she's will number twenty seven.
It's an interesting excuse. I suppose you put that in
front and go, here's why I can't win. Here's why
I can't get higher than twenty seven in the world
because all the top players have got testosterone and more
than I. Actually she was trying to say that everyone's
got their own biological structure, and some people have got
highed and some people got loge. She says she's got
to cover more areas of the court because these players

(02:39):
have got more testosterone. But if you are Egis Fiontic
or Arena Sabalinka hearing this from a fellow player on tour,
what's your reaction going to be in the dressing room
next time you see it?

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Especially with absolutely you've got the guns. It's quite clear
that you've got the power, and that basically says why
they're better than her. So it hasn't gone down particularly
well in the World of ten. There's people saying this
is basically an excuse because you are well number twenty
seven and you're just not that good to basically try
and say, oh, this is why I can't advance. They've
got too much test oorceron.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
How do you know if a woman has got more
testosterone than you? Can you see it? Do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Like you can see that what yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Laughing at me? I know why he's laughing at me.
But you can see when a woman is taller than you, yes,
or when a woman is broad at the air. But
how could you possibly?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't think he can't tell. You can't tell.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, I wouldn't have thought, so, okay, maybe only can
I don't know, how would you, Elliott?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I don't know. Let's move on.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Do you know what? Ask Elliot this when he's back
tonight for Sports Talk at seven o'clock. Thanks Elliott Elliott Smith.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
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