Enda Brady: UK correspondent on the UK Supreme Court ruling that the legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex

The day to day implications of a landmark UK court ruling - that the term woman refers to biological sex  - are not yet known.

In a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court ruled the definition of sex is binary and cannot apply to those with a gender recognition certificate.

UK correspondent Enda Brady explains what this ruling could mean going forward.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In the bradi a UK correspondence with us in the.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello, hey Hea, They're great to speak to you again.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Now, what do you make of this UK Supreme Court
ruling on women.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
It's huge for anyone who hasn't seen this. The headline
in the Daily Telegraph here today spells it out very bluntly.
Trans women are not women. That is the upshot of
this ruling. It's the highest court in the land. Obviously,
the debate has been going on for years, if not
decades at this stage, but we now have it in law.
So this case was brought ultimately by a very gender

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critical feminist group called four Women Scotland. They took it
against the government. It's ended up all the way to
the Supreme Court and five judges have studied all the
arguments and they say that you were a woman based
on what you were born with your biological sex. So
trans women are not women. Now, away from the whole

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kind of debate and society and the media, this will
have very significant impact for organizations across the country, from
businesses to sporting organizations, shared office space, bathrooms. It's very
very significant.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Do you think it will actually impect shade spaces and bathrooms, Like,
is it actually going to go into that.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I think this is just maybe the first kilometer of
a marathon. But by the time this law ruling shakes down,
I think every business and every organization in the UK
will absolutely have to abide by this because if they don't,
they will then find themselves in court and there will
be people citing this ruling as the basis of their argument.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Interesting Trendstabad has really swung quite heavily from one extreme
to the other in recent years, hasn't it. I mean,
it wasn't that long ago where this kind of conversation
will be a big no no and quite taboo, and
it's now swung very much in favor of cisgendered women here.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah. Look, it's it's a huge debate, it's very volatile
at times, and certainly keep away from social media on it.
You can see all the people who are weighing in.
But look my own personal take, Heather, it's a short life.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Just try and be happy, yeah, try and be kind
as well. Okay, listen, So I see the Ministry of
Defenses bend all the Chinese made vehicles. What's the problem spying?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
They're worried about espionage, and you just wonder. You know,
we're well into twenty twenty five now. These Chinese vehicles
and vehicles with Chinese components have been in the UK
for a long time, and military staff and personnel have
been driving them the same as any other citizen for
a long time, and we only find out today that

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they've just recently banned them from mod sites. One particular
site is so sensitive people having Chinese vehicles have been
told to park two miles away. So the feeling is that,
you know, they're they're tracking military personnel's movements. What else
is in these vehicles? You know it's from page News
here today. But my only question is why has it

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taken so long? We found out the weekend China's game
plan with British steel was to run it into the ground.
You know, all this Chinese investment we're seeing I think
belatedly people in London and Westminster starting to realize China
may not meet our friends after all.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Interesting, very very interesting. Hey, thanks very much and I
really appreciate it. Into Brady A Happy East to you
in the Brady our UK correspondence.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
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