Full Show Podcast: 01 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the Spence Spence to find the real story
or HiT's Ryan Bridge on Heather du for see Ellen
Drive with One New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's get connected and news talks.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
That'd be good afternoon seven after four break and have
your company coming up on the program. We'll look at
the America's Cup and the funding that they're not going
to get from the government. Do you agree with that?
We'll speak to Hospitality and z after five. Mark Robinson
from endz R on the deal that they've reached with Enios.
Are they better off neutral worse off than if this

(00:33):
whole thing never happened? Also this afternoon the gecko, the
two gecko, I should say, and the skink that's cost
us eighty five thousand dollars to save? Was it worth it?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Ryan Bridge?

Speaker 3 (00:47):
The culture wars have well and truly arrived. In case
you haven't noticed, you don't have to look far for evidence.
The Greens organize a protest, they don a he job.
They depending on the crowd, depending on the occasion, they'll
chant about defunding the police. Or from the River to
the Sea. For Winston, it's puberty blockers. A lot of
this stuff is imported from overseas from offshore and we're

(01:10):
a few years behind. But once the algorithms start feeding
off Americas, we wind up with the same punch ups
at protests, the death threats, and the divided society which
no one really wants. What we haven't yet had in
this country is a government doing anything seriously meaningful about it.
In the US today, Trump has announced a review of

(01:32):
nine billion dollars in funding to Harvard University. He says,
they're basically these university campuses are allowing anti semitism on
campus and is cracking down and guess what vice chancellors
are quitting and policies are changing here. Some see university
campuses as ground zero four culture wars as well, but

(01:55):
national clearly isn't in the mood for taking drastic action
with holding funding to force change for example. Instead, what
we're seeing, and it's happened over the last couple of weeks,
is the minor parties resorting to private members bills and
press releases to make their points. Act for example, has

(02:15):
one bill to stop the allocation of university resources based
on race. They've spoken out about race based spaces on
campus as well. Winston, he's done his Private Member's bill
on DEI. Remember that this allows the minor parties to
get their points across and differentiate them from National, but
it doesn't really actually do anything to address the problems

(02:38):
that they say are being created. Why because the universities
clearly aren't listening or changing their policies as a result.
The only way that would really happen is if National
hit the Trump button and threatened funding. Nothing hurts quite
like a whack in the wallet and taxpayers fund forty
two percent of university budgets. National doesn't want to do this,

(03:01):
and it won't. Why Well, it would shift the focus
away from issues that the center voters care more about,
like the economy, like the cost of living, like crime
right unlike in the United States here under MMP. That's
just how the cookie crumbles, That's how the system works.
For most people. These issues are periphery, but for a

(03:23):
vocal minority they are make or break the question for
the majority. The question for the rest of us is
whether we want politicians from the right throwing their weight
around a university campus, or whether we think that's already
happening from the left. Bryan Bridge just gone ten after
four news talks MB, The Ministry of Education has released

(03:46):
their draft English curriculum for high schoolers. Suggested reads include
George Orwell's nineteen eighty four Great Book I read that
at school. You've got poetry in there, You've got World
War Two speeches from Winston Churchill. That's great shape spheare,
of course is in They're compulsory for seniors. English Teachers
Association President Tinning is here for reaction. Pip good afternoon, Hello,

(04:09):
How are you good? Thank you? So are you happy
with the curriculum for high schools and intermediate as it stands?

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Isn't that a big question? And not entirely. There's definitely
some some aspects of it that I think are really promising.
There are definitely aspects that are a little bit concerning
as well.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Let's start with those. What don't you like about it?

Speaker 5 (04:35):
How full it is in the expectations for teachers to
get through a huge amount of work over across the
school year. That is worrying, And the idea of students
engaging meaningfully with the number of texts that are being
being asked to be covered, as well as all the

(04:56):
other areas that are expected to be covered across at
school year.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
So for years for seniors twelve and thirteen, you've got
to read one Shakespeare and you've got to read one
nineteenth century text. Aren't the rest all suggested?

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:11):
It's interesting because that is what it's been called. Is
when you look at the actual website, there's some language
there that is ringing a few of my alarm bells
definitely around whether that suggested is at some point going
to turn into compulsory. The language is still concerning and

(05:31):
has been now for us for oh my gosh, what
are we April pushing a year?

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Now?

Speaker 3 (05:35):
What language you're talking about? What word are they using?
Because here I'm reading suggested?

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yes, So if we have a look on the website,
is talking about a supplement A fullow list for teachers
to choose from will be available with the final English
Learning Area area. So what that sort of starts to
sound a little bit like is that actually there's going
to be a list and you're going to be expected

(06:03):
to choose from that. If I'm wrong, I'll be super stoked. However,
merving from suggested through to a fuller list for you
to choose from becomes a little bit alarming.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Okay, So, but as it stands. I mean, let's let's
let's assume that they're not, you know, plotting against you
here as it stands, you're okay with that. I mean,
how many books can it should it could read in
a year, well, you know, over the course of a class.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
Oh, I think it's really important that they read definitely
an extended written text. So whether that's a novel or
some kind of nonfiction memoir, et cetera. I think we
definitely understand as English teachers that those extended texts are
are vital. However, you've got extended texts, and you've got
poetry collections, you've got drama texts, you got a film
and other text forms along with you know, making sure

(06:54):
that you're covering those with some real depth and thought.
And then you've also got the idea that there's fiction
and non fiction and different times in places and this
is important and should definitely be there. Text by our
Turtle and New Zealand authors around the world, popular and
youth cultures which could be interesting, but you know in

(07:17):
text that they've chosen for personal enjoyment. Now, all of
those are really important. Potentially, it's going to be difficult
to cover all those meaningfully when you start looking right across.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
Those aspects one year, because it's so in one year
you've got to do an extended text, a poetry, a film,
a drama, and you've got to meet all of tick
all of those boxes as well.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
And that's for one year group, that's not across the
whole their whole experience at school.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
And I think Ryan, that's a really good phrase that
you've used, because it does feel a lot like a
bit of a tick box. Because the other thing that
hasn't come out is how all of this is going
to be assessed and what that's going to end up
looking like. I would hope there's actually better consultation and
working with the sector around that than there has been

(08:07):
with this curriculum, because the lack of openness and transparency
with it should be concerning everyone, not just English teachers.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
All right, but appreciate your time. That's the English Teachers
Association President Pip Tinning on the program talking about this
new curriculum that's for English for your intermediate students and
for high schools as well. Nine ten ninety two. The
number of text I was saying to ants earlier, you
can only remember one book that I read at school,
and the only reason I remember it was Othellow. And

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the only reason I remember it is because the teacher,
Missus Jorgenson, who was just brilliant, made us all perform
it around the classroom. Basically, you know, read it aloud
and you would each play a character or whatever, and
so it was interactive and it was fun. But I'm
sure we had to read other books. I just honestly
could not tell you what I read nineteen eighty four.
Apart from that, I honestly couldn't tell you basically much

(08:59):
of what happened high school. And now I wasn't stared
most of the time. It's qued a past four year
on News Talk VB. We'll get to Darcy with sport.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Next, it's the Heather du Bussy Allen Drive Full Show.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Four eighteen News Talks EB. I'll get some of your
texts on what books you read at school shortly in
the house. At the moment, the talk of the town
is still about the police, but it's not the way
around you would think it would go. This is the
Green Party asking questions, Sorry to party Marty asking questions
of the government about racism and the police, and Chris

(09:37):
Luxon has basically come out and said there is no
racial discrimination in the police. So you can imagine the
cats amongst the pigeons there. We'll talk to Barry about
that little later on. Right now, Darcy's head with Sport.
Hey Darcy, Hello, Ryan, good afternoon, Good afternoon. The America's Cup.
Now you're you're a sports man, So.

Speaker 8 (09:54):
Sportsman, sports sportsman, more strength to your arms, sportsman.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
So you would, I assume, be on the side of
the America's Cup. You would be wanting the government to
fundness for it to be held here.

Speaker 8 (10:05):
I would like to see it, but I'm not entirely
sure how many people will miss it, like I'll enjoy it.
I really will enjoy it because I enjoy those big things.
I talk about the Olympic Games. I love the Olympic Games.
But when the lead up to the Olympic Games, you
couldn't find a more miserable swine on the planet around
it if you tried. That would be me complaining about
the money, complaining about the legacy that Olympic Games leave,

(10:27):
complaining about the behind the closed doors deals, complaining about
the human rights logo, and as soon as the startup's
going to go, I'm like, wow, yees, so cool.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
You're a fanatic, and I'm off, I'd like to see
it here seventy five million dollars Would you pay that
to see it? Because that's the thing, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (10:44):
Well, the question is the question is that I don't
know a great deal about finances of the government. What
does that represent an expenditure for the government. How deeply
have they looked to this and the two billion dollars
out of Barthalona that apparently the financial economic benefit provided
that much. Whether that's accurate or not, I don't know.
Have they done the number?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Well, here I'll tell you. I'll give you a real
world example, because we've had one today from Simeon Brown.
So they are funding ten thousand extra elective surgeries by
JUNEEP fifty million dollars, So ten thousand New Zealanders will
get a new half or new whatever some cataracts. And
then you think about, well, what's the benefit to society

(11:25):
from doing that.

Speaker 8 (11:26):
You can't just look at an individual amount of money
and apply that across a number of different platforms and
suggest it would have been spent there if it's not
spent here, because there is money there that should be
there for the enjoyment of the populace, for infrastructure, for
big events, for bringing people to the country.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Now, but there's not enough money.

Speaker 8 (11:47):
That's not money.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well there's not in this money. You can't just say, well, I.

Speaker 8 (11:51):
Don't believe he's saying that we're going to spend all
this money on looking after sick people. And we will
and we wouldn't do it if we had the America's
Cover that what they say.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
They are, But that's what he's saying. He's saying, we're
back to basics. We need roads, we need surgeries, you know.
And this is what the Council is saying too at
the moment, right. I mean, I'm not saying it's it's
the right thing. I'm just saying that's the that's the justification.

Speaker 8 (12:14):
Feel though that in all honesty, the sale GP is
the future and the America's Cup is the past. I
think it's sailed. I think it's gone. We will watch
it overseas. But the attachment that New Zealanders have two
America's Cup team New Zealand is far from that.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
I know.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
There's a lot of key you're rocking around the place.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
But you never see it.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
It's never there.

Speaker 8 (12:35):
We've on the other side of the world Red Sox
and I think we look at sale GP which turns
up every year. Getting that here now that's exciting, that's relevant.
So you that's forward thinking. So yeah, I'm not dying here.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
All right, you're doing this on your show tone.

Speaker 8 (12:50):
And why wouldn't I. Brad Butterworth is going to join
us to talk about that, about the losses the gains,
and he's had a very interesting history of the America's
Cup wants six times no four times winner, form a
tactician skipper jump ship across to willing you remember all
that from back in the day. Well, I hope for
you do anyway, So yeah, we'll talk to him about that.
And Neil Wagner's going to join the show later on

(13:11):
the piece. It was his last hurrah in New Zealand
Domestic cricket Today and Northern Districts picked up the plunket
shield down Ontigo where he started.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Look forward to it. Darcy c Tonight, Darcy Watergrave on
Sport twenty two minutes after four news talks, heb we'll
get to your texts next. Also over in Australia, they're
looking at making a notes the Art decision today. What
timing with Trump's tariffs coming tomorrow. We'll go talk to
Mariold's about that afternoons.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Getting the facts, discarding the fluff.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's Ryan Bridge on hither Duplice Ellen Drive with one
New Zealand Let's get connected News TALKS'B four five.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
So the government's released a list of books that kids
should read at school. Well, actually there's only two compulsory ones.
And if this is for intermediate and secondary schools, there's
only two compulsory ones. One has to be a Shakespeare
and one has to be a nineteenth century text. That's
for senior students. The rest of the teachers can basically
pick from a list. Ryan, I had to read eight

(14:08):
books from a list of literature. It seems today's kids
are unable to cope. Dumbing down by providing easier, shorter,
less material does not help our kids. I agree with that,
but I think you have to if the teachers say
that you're trying to tick too many boxes with the
text that you are giving them, then I think maybe
you've got to listen to them on that, Ryan, do

(14:29):
we really need to continue with Shakespeare in year twelve
and thirteen, asks Allie, wouldn't kids engage more if it
was more relevant to today and get books from good
role models who made a difference to the country, especially
our boys, says Ali. This is English we're talking about, remember,
So I don't know. You can read a book at
home to your hearts content about Dan Carter. But Shakespeare

(14:51):
did transform the English language, did he not? Apparently he
wrote seventeen thousand words in his plays and ten percent
of them were new and have completely sort of revamped
how we think about the language. So I don't know.
Can you skip that in favor of a Dan Carter novel?
I'm not convinced. Twenty seven after four news talk to

(15:11):
the BIB, We'll get to Murray Old's Out of Australia.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Next, putting the challenging questions to the people at the

(15:40):
heart of the story. It's Ryan Bridge on Hither du
Percy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
It'd be you and it is twenty four away from
five year on news talks. It'd be great to have
your company. You've got to fill for the reserve Bank

(16:09):
of Australia today they are making a call on the
OCR a day before Donald Trump announces his end of
world tariff plan. So they are holding steady at four
point one zero, which is what they were expected to do.
I mean, how do you make a call at a
time like this. Do you say, oh, we'll anticipate there's
going to be a big trade war, We'll anticipate there's

(16:29):
going to be a big recession and cut the rates
in advance. No, you don't do that because you don't
know that's what's going to happen. You don't even know
what he's going to say tomorrow. So they have done
what they were predicted to do, which is hold steady.
Murials on that in a second twenty five to two.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's the world wires on news talks.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
They'd been drive big blow for the French far right.
Marine la pen has been found guilty of embezzlement. Unless
she wins on appeal, she can't run for president in
twenty twenty seven. Here she is.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
Millions of French voters are being deprived of their favorite
president didnitial condidates. If that isn't a political decision, I
don't know what is go to meanma.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Now, the government says the death toll from the earthquake
has risen to two thousand. This woman was injured.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
As I was running out Because I was half asleep,
I didn't know it was a quick Once I was outside,
I looked back and this building had already collapsed.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Finally this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Honestly, I love it.

Speaker 11 (17:24):
I'd go back and hope.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
The formerly stranded NASA astronauts say they're ready for round two.
Both of them are happy to go back up to
space to the Boeing star Liner that got them stuck
up in the ISS in the first place. Once it
gets picked up, of course, they'll go back in the
same ship. Not straight away though, butch Wilmore says his
wife wants them to catch up on the gardening before
he goes back to space.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
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Speaker 3 (17:53):
Murray Olds with our Australia correspondent Murray, Good afternoon, right, yeah,
so no surprises. They're the Reserve Bank held steady.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
Yeah, that's right exactly. And that was what was the
stat I read this morning, ninety two percent of economists.
So who wants to be precise when you're economists. But
ninety two percent was saying no way, no, they're going
to go today. They did cut in February, the first
rate cut after the one in February. The first rate
cut in February would say since November twenty twenty, so

(18:23):
a long time coming. And the basic word now is
do not hold your breath because of the uncertainty around things. Also,
of course, the Reserve Bank and the Governor Michelle Bullock
very cognizant of criticism that a Reserve Bank cut and
official interest rates today might feed into the election campaign
and give the impression perhaps the independence of the Reserve

(18:46):
Bank would be questioned, given that an interest rate cut
would conceivably give labor a a bit of a help along.
So no cut today. Four point one percent is where
it's stopping. And that's very indeed in terms of what
is going to arrive tomorrow, perhaps the day after from Donald.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Trump, yeah, which no one really knows. So I mean,
what's the point trying to guess? I guess now, let's
move to the election, because there's a lot to get through.
Doesn't if he wins wants to live.

Speaker 12 (19:15):
Weir Kiribilly Kiribilly House. It's the beautiful residence right on
the edge of Sydney Harbor, looks straight across the harbor
at the Opera House in the city. There's the Harbor
bridge on your on your right hand side is are
out in the putting Green there right next door of
the Governor General's Sydney residence. And you know, he was asked,
as they do on the I can't believe it's only

(19:36):
a few days in it feels like it's been going
for bloody ever. You turn on the telly, you turn
on the radio, there they are burbling away and so
they're on one of these interminable FM interviews. So by Pedro,
how are you going DUTs or where would you live?
In your PM? Well, I think I'd like to live
in ord like to live in Sydney, like I quite
like Sydney Harbor. Well, Albanize is all over that like

(19:58):
a cheap suit. He says, Ah, you know Hebrews. Well,
it's just pathetic. I mean, can you give us some policies.
I want to know what Dutton's nuclear pans go to cost,
what they're both in furious agreement about today. Just to
duck back for a moment on the tariffs that may
be arriving tomorrow. We understand American pharmaceutical manufacturers hate the
fact that Australian pharmaceuticals are subsidized by the government. They think,

(20:22):
hang on, get rid of that subsidy because you know,
we will make more profits. They hate the things like
biosecurity rules that stop beef from other parts of the
world coming in here it may be diseased. I mean, hello,
who thinks American beef producers can produce better cows than
Aussie So then come on Rossie cows and the best
of the world. So look at all this stuff that's

(20:43):
swirling around. You've got, you know, an analysis today about
the whole brand new generation of young voters who are
coming through. They're called the gen z's of course, and
the what's the other millennials. So there's a whole swag
of people who are going to vote for the very
first time. And of course the right wing over here,

(21:03):
the Murdock Press, oh it's disgrace of labor and doctor
edd in schools and universities and they're all vote left.
And so there's going to be a whole lot of this.
I'm going to be neckingusself before the end of this
election campaign.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
I'm going to assure you this sounds like you're already
halfway there, Mary Murray. We'll finish with the Teal candidate
who's got themselves on the spot of bother making a
sexual comment to a hairdresser. What's this about?

Speaker 12 (21:29):
Oh, it's just weird. I mean it is significantly weird.
She's a Look, she's a Teal candidate in what's the scene?

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Is it North Sydney?

Speaker 13 (21:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (21:38):
I think it maybe North Sydney. Anyway, she's had her
hair done, and you know, with a young nineteen year
old female apprentice hairdresser. Apparently, as you do, you get
the cameras in, oh gee, whish you you really looked
after my hair, thanks very much? And I didn't even
have to sleep with you.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
What what?

Speaker 12 (21:56):
What is the disconnect with just I mean, hello, it's
as though some was in a jam tartan and elevator
of the doors of your shot. It's just ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Why would you say, is this a woman? The candidate's
a woman and a female hairdresser.

Speaker 12 (22:10):
Female hairdresser, I mean, what's the what are you trying
to say?

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Is she lesbian? No, I have no idea.

Speaker 12 (22:18):
I know the six preference would never clues you got
nice hair and just been washed. God almighty, you wonder
I'm halfway there. It's just a dumb, dumb comet, completely unnecessary,
embarrassed the young woman probably, and this collective intake of did.

Speaker 14 (22:35):
She really say that?

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yes, she did?

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Stupid, stupid, All right, Murray, thank you for that. We'll
let you go have a lie down, Murray Held's Aristota correspondent.
A long way to go? What is it another month
before the election? It's eight and will he make it?
That's the question. Eighteen away from five and you plummet.
State Highway three roadworks are happening, right. They want to
improve the safety of the roads. They want to widen

(22:57):
the road. Great. Sounds like a good thing, but hang on,
first you need to do an eighty five thousand dollars
catching and rehoming of the skinks and the geckos. So
this is in order to have the works done. And
we wonder why in New Zealand roading and infrastructure projects
cost us so much. I mean, are we serious? But anyway,

(23:20):
this is apparently true out of we'll talk about it
after five. But eighty five thousand dollars for catching and
rehoming one skink and two geckos. Now, by my calculations,
it's nearly thirty thousand dollars per skink. That is a
lot of money. The skink catchers did the job in
three weeks with traps, and three ecologists were brought into

(23:42):
the region to do the work. I'm guessing that's where
you got the eighty five thousand dollars from. I mean,
doesn't take long to work out at the cost of
an Air New Zealand flight into New Plymouth, how quickly
that bill would add up over three weeks. Anyway, three ecologists,
three weeks, three skinks and eighty five thousand dollars. We'll
look at that after five point fifteen. Barrisoper, next politics

(24:05):
with centrics, credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.
We'll look at the America's cup after five. Barry Sloper
is here now, Hey, Barry, Good afternoon Rome. Now have
been a busy old afternoon in Parliament as always, the
Maori Party refusing to attend the Privileges Committee. This is
over the hacker gate.

Speaker 15 (24:21):
Yes, the due to go before the Privileges Committee tomorrow.
It's cheered by Judith Collins, the Attorney General, but they're
refusing to They're basically saying it's discriminatory. It's not recognizing Tekanga,
it's not allowing them to be represented by their council. Well,

(24:43):
nobody's ever represented by their council. The council can make
opening statements at a committee meeting, but they can't cross examine.
And it's a parliamentary committee, so it's not a court
of law interests. I found that the Maldi party's lawyer
in this case can't attend tomorrow. It's none other than

(25:07):
Chris fin Layson for the National Party. Attorney General is
now appearing for the Maldi Party. Apparently Chris is in
the High Court tomorrow so he can't make it there.
Wanting it to be delayed until the seventh of April,
but the committee have denied it. Judith Collins denied their
request as saying the hearing would proceed as scheduled tomorrow

(25:31):
afternoon whilst we're on air four to five point thirty
tomorrow afternoon. Each member will appear independently, even though they wanted.

Speaker 8 (25:40):
To appear together.

Speaker 15 (25:41):
You can imagine what a muzzle that would be but
they're allowed to be in the room when each of
them does appear, but they're not going to be there anyway,
So I'm not going to make a differends.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
So what's the punishment can you force?

Speaker 15 (25:54):
Hey, they the committee can come down with a determination.
And you're remember last week it was Penny Henade who
was asked to apologize to the House for he wasn't
nearly the perpetrator that these three were. I mean they
got out of their seats, out of their benches, went

(26:15):
over to the act Party and I re would pack her,
even though she would deny she did it. She pointed
a finger like a pistol at David Seymour and basically
was making as though she was pulling the trigger. Their
offense is much more serious. But look, I don't have

(26:35):
any great faith in what is always described as the
powerful Privileges Committee to come down with anything very significant,
not very powerful.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
So the Maori Party have been and question time, they've
been having to go at the government over cops.

Speaker 15 (26:49):
Yeah, well they had to be busy with something, didn't they.
Because I'm not going to the Privileges Committee meeting tomorrow.
So the certainly taking up with the Greens Tamotha Paul
left off getting stuck into the police. It was clear
they're co leader Rawerie way to tease zeroed in on
the Prime Minister, but it didn't get him very far.

Speaker 16 (27:10):
Will he support the Maori Party policy requiring police officers
to wear mandatory body cameras.

Speaker 17 (27:15):
Well, I'll take my advice from the police. I backed
them with any tools that they need to do their job.
But I'm very proud that our police are out there
on the beat.

Speaker 16 (27:23):
Will does government implement the recommendations of the Understanding Police
Delivery Report, in which the New Zealand Police found that
structural racism within the policies is the reason mary are
more likely to be stopped, tasered and prosecuted.

Speaker 14 (27:36):
I back our police.

Speaker 17 (27:38):
Our police are out there making sure that they catch criminals.

Speaker 16 (27:41):
Does he accept any discrimination in the police.

Speaker 17 (27:45):
I don't agree with statements that I have said that
there is structural racial discrimination in the police at all.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
See.

Speaker 15 (27:52):
So I didn't get him very far. I thought the
Prime Minister was fairly cool. Carmen collected in the face
of the question.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, certainly under it right. The Greens are back on
the bandwagon, though, don't tell me, Barry.

Speaker 15 (28:04):
They can't be forgotten their cracked record. Leader Chloe Swarbrick,
fresh from defending her nine non binary MP Benjamin Doyle,
was back on her favorite topic again in the House
with Chris luxon.

Speaker 18 (28:19):
Does the Prime Minister accept that a fixation on profit
at all costs leads to a rising cost of living
for New Zealanders.

Speaker 17 (28:27):
Well, the member seems to have a challenge or a
problem with organizations making a profit.

Speaker 14 (28:32):
My point is that that is a good thing.

Speaker 17 (28:33):
They are investing, they're taking risks, they're investing capital when.

Speaker 18 (28:36):
We see it so clearly driving the cost of living.
Where the Prime Minister might agree that corporate profiteering is
not quote a good.

Speaker 17 (28:45):
Thing, well, I just reject totally the way the member
is characterizing profit.

Speaker 19 (28:50):
Right on with could the Prime Minister piece explain that
if a business does not make a profit, it goes broke,
and the employer and employee, the staff and everybody loses
their work.

Speaker 17 (29:02):
That is exactly right, That's how it works.

Speaker 15 (29:04):
That's economics one oh one. I think Chloe Swarbrick and
Madame and Davidson, in fact, all of the Green Caucus
should go along to an economics lecture. Although Julianne Genter,
well known Green MP, she claims to be an economist,
so maybe they should take some instruction off her.

Speaker 14 (29:25):
She's very silent on them.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Here's the thing about this, Barry, because this is the
probably fourth profit trust in Parliament. But what Chloe Swarbrick
will be doing with these clips is putting them on
her Instagram and they're obviously doing quite well. I don't
know because I don't go on Instagram, but they're obviously
doing very very well, which is why she keeps sipping
back to it. Right, So there's obviously portioness of New

(29:49):
Zealand society who really do believe that corporate profit hearing,
as she puts it, is a major problem in New
Zealand and they are to blame for driving the cost
of living, you know what I mean.

Speaker 15 (30:00):
But they argue at a more base level in that
she did mention profitteering there. But there are the more
base level they don't like the idea of profit. It
would seem per se like the investment, the overseas investment
encouraging it into the country. They're against them making a profit.
I mean, we're not a welfare agency in this country.
If you want to invest in us. Of course you've

(30:21):
got to have a return on your money.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Very Soper, never a truer word said, very sober, senior
little correspondent here on News Talks MB. It's eight away
from five. We'll look at the America's cup after five o'clock.
Presumably they'd fund that. I mean, who cares, you know,
to throw the money at anything. We're also going to
look after five o'clock at enzid R and the fact
that they've come to a deal with Nios see zid Are.

(30:46):
Where would they be without money in the coffers? It's
not worth really thinking about, is it?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 10 (30:57):
Finally, the government looks to bring a bit of real
world back to the mad business rules and regulation around
the workplace, workplace relations in safety.

Speaker 14 (31:02):
Minister Brooklyn Belden is with us. Are you up ending us?

Speaker 20 (31:05):
We're going to make it a lot clearer, so you
only need to focus on your critical risks, things that
will actually cause people harm, rather than posters saying warning
hot water or warning.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
Here is a staircase.

Speaker 20 (31:17):
We've got to bring some common sense back to New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (31:19):
My experience to be frank, A lot of that stuff,
you know, the silly stuff is ignored anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Well, a lot of.

Speaker 20 (31:24):
It is companies finding they're spending a lot of money
on over compliance because they are fearful of prosecution.

Speaker 10 (31:31):
Back tomorrow at six am, the mic asking breakfast with
the rain drove of the lam used talk.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
ZB five away from five, So eighty five thousand dollars
to save the life of three skinks in New Plymouth.
This is a roading project that was held up for
three weeks so they could go in there, the biologists
and they could hunt and catch and then release or
re home three skinks. A lot of people are texting
and I'm a civil engineer. We had to change a

(31:57):
site design for one of the talcos and the foundation
costs went up thirty thousand dollars. Also that we wouldn't
disturb a flax plant that had a single skink living
in it. This country as bonkers. There's lots of examples
of this kind of stuff. Ryan. We had to divert
a river to stop it washing out of road. They
had two guys watching for fish in two days at
a cost of twenty five thousand dollars. Usually the fish

(32:21):
bugger off when the digger starts digging. I guess the
question is where did the fish go? But with the
three skinks in New Plymouth and we are going to
talk to someone and they know about this after five,
where could they not just scatter further into the bush?
You know what I mean, like they're widening the road.
We'll do this, move five meters the other way. I
don't really understand anyway. We'll talk about that at five

(32:41):
point fifteen after five the America's Cup and has Chris
Hipkins position on that changed? All ahead News TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
To questions, answers, thanks analysis, the drive show you trust
for the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither Dupless Allen

(33:38):
Drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
News Talks dB Good evening at a seven after five
News talks. 'd be the America's Cup not coming home
in twenty twenty seven? Why because the government's not putting
any money in. Basically, the Sports Minister Mark Mitchell said
it would have cost us this is just the taxpayers alone,
would have cost us seventy five million dollars. I thought
would be really good the country.

Speaker 21 (34:00):
But I fully acknowledge that we're in a tight spot
fasically at the moment, and that seventy five million dollars
has better spend another areas.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Steve Armitage's the chief executive Hospitality and Z with me tonight.

Speaker 14 (34:09):
Hi, Steve hi Ran, how are you?

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I'm good. I don't imagine this is going to be
a welcome decision for you. But can you understand why
they've made it?

Speaker 22 (34:19):
I can certainly understand it from a and I think
the rhetoric that they're playing around it obviously plays well
to the general populace. But I think it's only one
side of the argument. I don't think it's reasonable to
say that this is money that just goes into a
black hole. Actually, the event can help to bolster government
coffers through GST revenue from the teams being here and
established over a period of time, investment and technology, both

(34:41):
building componentry even before you get to the visitation. So
in my view, this is one of those instances where
you're actually making an investment to unlock the greater return
over time.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
The government says, look, we've got surgeries to fun, we've
got roads to build. All of those things have great
economic outcomes too, and is it the Gov's government's business
at this particular point in time to be picking winners
with events.

Speaker 22 (35:06):
Well, on the one hand, again you can make that argument,
but also we've heard consistent messages this year around the
need to grow our economy, to lift visited numbers, and
also to move away from a culture of saying no.
So my argument would be that this seems to run
counter to that. But again, even if we were to
say that hosting the event here would generate half of
the economic benefit that has been reported from Barcelona, which

(35:26):
would be around a billion dollars, the GST take a
loan from that would be around one hundred and fifty million,
So you're doubling your money, and you can invest that
into surgeries and fixing roads and so on. So again,
it just seems like it's been a little bit of
a simplistic assessment in this instance. It would have been
better to think about the longer term benefits from hosting
the event.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I suppose the other problem you've got is the once
bitten twice shy because the COVID one we made a
loss on, right, So people will probably think, oh, well
we've heard this before.

Speaker 22 (35:55):
Yeah, But I think also people are smart enough to
realize that we weren't able to deliver the event as
it was in ten. It for all the reasons that
people are. People well understand, and you raise an interesting
point because you know there is investment in infrastructure to
host this particular event as well as other large scale
and water events. So you know we've invested that time
and effort and energy and funding and to deliver a

(36:17):
place that can host successfully the America's Cup. We should
be utilizing it.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Steve, really appreciate your time tonight. Steve Armitage, chief executive
at Hospitality and Z not happy with the decision nine
after five. So the legal battle between Z and Enios
is over. In fact, it didn't even really have to
go to court. They did take them to the High
Court for trying to back out of their sponsorship contract,
but they both settled out of court. Mark Robinson's the

(36:44):
n z R chief executive with me tonight. HOI Mark, Ryan, Hi,
how are you good to have you on? So are
you feeling pretty good about how much you got out
of them?

Speaker 23 (36:54):
Well, you know, obviously we can't talk them too much
detail about that, but.

Speaker 12 (37:00):
Yeah, we're pleased.

Speaker 23 (37:01):
There's been a settlement reached. We were pretty open from
when we started communicating this that we believed we had
a really strong position and it's just been nice to
be able to work for in a radially quick amount
of time and find a resolution.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
It has been quite quick. Did you think do you
think any of us expected you to just roll over
rather than actually lawyer up and take it to court.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (37:24):
Look, I probably wouldn't speculate on what we thought they
might do or not do. What we were really focused
on what we thought our position was, and we were
really clear on that, and then we spend a bit
of time thinking about what the right process was. And clearly,
you know, I don't want to go back in time
too much. But once it was a breach like there was,
and we were in a position where we'd deliver on

(37:47):
everything on our side of the contract, we felt it
was right to initiate it, initiate the process we did.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Gregor Paul reckons that you've got your money for twenty
twenty five, which would be about twenty one million dollars
plus a small additional payment for remaining two years. Is
that way off?

Speaker 23 (38:05):
I didn't catch all of that, but look like I'm
not going to come in any detail like I say.
Where we've been able to work through it. Our teams
put a huge amount of work into it. We're pleased.
We've got to.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
What is your policy going forward? Do you care whose
name is on the Black Jersey? And would you care
if it was BP or you know, or Green Peace?
Is there anything political in the decisions you make or
is it just financial?

Speaker 23 (38:33):
Well as a range of considerations we have when we
look at potential partners Ryan, So you know, there's obviously
a reputational piece, there's clearly a commercial piece, there's a
brand and values fit piece. So you know they are
part of the processes that we always work through and

(38:53):
those are being refined.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
All the time.

Speaker 23 (38:55):
You know, as we sort of grow as an organization
and think differently about our partnerships, it's constantly something that's
under a view.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
How are you thinking differently?

Speaker 23 (39:07):
Well, we're constantly reviewing what we're doing in partnerships, how
we bring value to these partnerships. We're looking at different
markets around the world, We're looking at where our teams
are playing, We're looking at our digital reach. There's a
whole range of activity that we're part of now that
provides value to partners. So yes, it's constant evolution. We've

(39:30):
talked a lot about how exciting it is, you know,
the business of sport at the moment, and we're right
in the middle of a really interesting time.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
All right, Mark, good luck with the next sponsorship. Mark Robinson,
the NZ CEO with US thirteen after five. Chris Hipkins
just coming back to the business of We're in the
business of sport in two ways this afternoon, aren't we really?
With the America's Cup and with Mark Robinson and ended up.
But let's go back to the America's Cup for second.
Chris Hipkins has come out and said he pretty much

(39:58):
would like the government to take another look at the
America's Cup.

Speaker 24 (40:02):
Do you'll have a listen, The whole country benefits from
the America's Cup. The flow on benefits from that aren't
just around the event itself, but actually you know, having
all those teams based in New Zealand, the technology that
comes without the innovation that comes with that.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
But then you've got how many other events do you fund?
You could make the same argument about Eden Park. I
mean where does it stop? And I think the point
that this government has been making and rejecting both Eden
Park and the America's Cup is we're back to basics.
And today on that Simon Brown puts out a press
release because you know how we're spending, you know, so

(40:37):
America's Cup seventy five million dollars elective surgeries to get
ten thousand of them through the public private system, that
is fifty million dollars. And he's given an update today
saying in the last month they've managed to chew through
two thousand. So that's two thousand cataracts or tonsils or
knees or hernia repairs or whatever it might be. That's

(40:57):
all in the space of a month. And they're going
to get through the ten thousand by June. So that's
the other that's the flip side of the argument, isn't
it fourteen minutes after five news talks, there'd be the
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heb we will get to after six of the health
and safety as the workplace safety stuff and the fact
that farmers in particular we're worried about having events held
on their land. Will that change after what Brook van
Velden has told us. We'll find out right now. A
project of rehome and catching native skinks has cost tax
payers eighty five thousand dollars. A wildlife permit was granted

(42:47):
by doc a head of road improvements on State Highway
three in New Plymouth. The program, though, only found three
skinks across three weeks of tracking. Professor James Russell is
a conservation biologist at all University with us this evening. Hi,
James good alf, No, Right, so there's one copper skink
and two gold striped geckos. Are they a big deal?

Speaker 25 (43:10):
The copper skins found across New Zealand. But those gold
strup geckos are really special. They're only found around lowland Taranaki,
and as we know, a lot of Taranaki's lowland has
been cleared. So finding some of these species is really good,
so we can protect them and learn more about them.
And what's really important to remember is that New Zealand
is actually a reptile hotspot, and there's more endemic species

(43:30):
of skinks and geckos in New Zealand. Then there are
birds even, but we just know so little about them
or where they are.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
So if we don't know that much about them or
where they are, then do we need to bother finding
them and rehoming them if we want to do you know,
we're just widening a road here.

Speaker 25 (43:46):
Exactly, and I mean this road widening project cost over
eleven million dollars, so the actual budget for trying to
protect threatened species and relocate them less than one percent
of the total budget. But we don't want to take
a Fredd of the Frog approach here. We ought to
make sure we go out there and look because if
we don't look for these rare species, we don't see
them before we see as some roadside, then we're just
going to develop everywhere in the country. But until we

(44:08):
just put a tiny amount of our budgets aside to
look for these rare species, we can do better conservation
for them.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, but by the time we've dealt with the ecology
that there are so many other things that need dealing with.
The one percent plus one percent plus one percent Suddenly
your motorways doubled in price. Well, can I answer this
question about the skinks? So if they hit so they
widened the road, right, could the skinks not have just
shuffled over?

Speaker 25 (44:35):
Yeah, that's exactly what we're hoping that most of the
skinks will shuffle over and move themselves off to the side.
But sometimes when we look on these projects, we can
find over sixty such as around the Wellington railway project,
whereas here we just found three skinks, and so it's
really good that we can find some of the ones
that don't shuffle away to make sure we're doing everything
we can for these species.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
What would actually have cost eighty five thousand dollars, So
apparently there were three ecologists involved. Why was it it's
so expensive for a three week project.

Speaker 25 (45:03):
It's the same thing that's so expensive whenever we do
roadworks or any kind of project. It's paying for people's
staff and time and for expertise. You need to have
a certain level of expertise in training to be able
to do this, just as you need you to get
the construction managers going in to pay for all the roadworks.
So that's way at the end of the day, it's
just less than one percent of the project, so I
think it's a good investment.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Do you know, you, James, You're going to be really
getting up people's getting on people's nerves saying it's less
than one percent. I mean, I know it's less than
one percent, but one percent plus one percent plus one
percent plus one percent plus one percent for every gecko
and skinkn bird, it starts to add up.

Speaker 25 (45:39):
I think that's that it always adds up to one
percent because you're just adding percentages, you.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Know what I'm saying, James, How endangered is the gold
striped gecko? How many do we have left?

Speaker 25 (45:52):
We don't have a good estimate for how many of
the are because people aren't investing in research on them,
so it's an unknown species, but it's classified as at
risk and in decline, as most of them are. There's
over one hundred and twenty three species of skinkin geko
across New Zealand. We're one of the richest biodiversity hot
spots in the world for them. So it's just another
species where we don't know what's happening, and if we

(46:12):
don't look, it'll just disappear and be another blot on
our record for an extinct species.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
All right, appreciate your time, James. That is Professor James Russell,
conservation biotists at Auckland University talking about State Highway three
and New Plymouth where you will have a wider road,
but it will be delayed by three weeks and you
will have one percent added to your budget. Twenty two
minutes after five newstalks, HEEDB.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Checking the point of the story.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
It's Ryan Bridge on here the duplice Allen drive with
one New Zealand let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
News Talk SEDB five twenty five on News Talks, EDB.
I don't understand how and why people get so worked
up about the government not putting tax payer money into
the America's cup seventy five million dollars. We would have
been on the hook for how many bits of road
would that get us, how many hospital wards would it build?
How many classrooms is seventy five million dollars worth? How

(47:05):
many geckos could we save? And did we not vote
this lot in to focus on the basic stuff, not
the nice to have, which is what the other lot
we're famous for. If you need proof, sailing around the
harbor is a nice to have? Look, No, further than
the sponsors, your prators, your Louis Vitons. Do you know

(47:25):
how much a prior to handbag costs? No, neither do I.
But they look expensive, don't They Not quite a burkin,
but still enough that you would want a home safe
to store it at night time. Which is not to
say there's anything wrong with wealth or with handbags, but
if the event needs tax payer cash to prop it up,
and there isn't enough private money floating around, then, given

(47:47):
the state we're in as a country and all good conscience,
we must politely say no. Surely, the sailing people will
talk about economic cost benefit analyses, they'll talk about HOSPOW,
they'll talk about Auckland, Inc. But the guardians of the
taxpayer perse have other priorities. What about the economic benefits
of ten thousand extra elective surgeries that's costing US fifty

(48:09):
million dollars over six months. That's ten thousand hips replaced,
or knees done, or potential cancerous breasts removed, you name it.
That benefits all of us as well. There are benefits
to society. So sorry, America's Cup, sorry Prata, sorry Louis Vaton,
our government's broke doling out cash from a mankey kmart

(48:32):
handbag in purse covered in holes and chewing gum. And
we've got bigger fish to fry today, maybe next time.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
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Speaker 3 (48:40):
Seven after five News Talks, he'vb in number of Texas
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hold the ocr in Australia today. We'll ask why, what
does it mean? Also we'll look ahead to Trump's tariff
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(49:01):
The Christchurch Boys High School headmaster accused of defecating on
a teacher's driveway. We will discuss. And we've got some
politicians on the huddle and reading that sentence has made
me forget who they are. But they'll be here twenty
seven half for five News talks.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Dust after making the news, the newsmakers talk to Ryan first.
It's Ryan Bridge on hither dupless elan drive with one
New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
They'd be.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Good evening twenty five away from six News Talks, they'd
be Stuart Nash former Labor Minister, Morris Williamson, former National Minister,
standing by for the huddle in just a few moments.
In christ Church. A lot of news out of Christchurch today,
some of it quite weird. Christ Church is a boy
Christchurch Boys High School. There was a teach there named
Susan Moett. Now she has taken the school to the

(50:04):
Employment Relations Authority. She claims unfair dismissal and things took
her quite a bizarre turn. In the hearing today she's
claimed the principal, Nick Hill, defecated on her driveway of
her home eight times. Now. She says this was payback
for her raising health and safety concerns with the principle,

(50:26):
and the principle not liking it, so responding by defecating
on her driveway. The lawyer for the school is the
one who actually brought this up, which I thought was
a weird twist to the story. You'd think they wouldn't
want something like that coming out anyway. The lawyer for
the school brought this up, and I'll quote what the
lawyer said to this teacher, Miss Moat. Presumably the students
referred to her as you had been telling people that

(50:48):
Nick had been defecating in your entryway. Didn't you you
had no evidence it was Nick? Did you you assumed
it was him? Now, Susan the teacher said she had
no heard evidence it was the principal. Now the herring
continues in christ Church Mowat and the school would call
a number of witnesses to support their case. Apparently the

(51:09):
principal will not be giving any evidence. Can you just
imagine being a schoolboy with this sort of material floating around?
It is hard enough as a grown adult to read
this with a straight face. Rich pickings for the playground
gossips around. I would have thought twenty three away.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
From six Bryan Bridge, staying.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
In christ Church, A new pedestrian crossing is going to
have speed bumps, but only on one side of the road.
You see, deansav runs right down the boundary between the
jurisdictions of the White Pappa and Waypoona community boards. The
why Papa Community Board has voted to include speed bumps
in the crossing, but the Waypona Community Board has not,

(51:49):
so the speed bumps will only be installed on the
Wye Pupper side of the road. Tyler Harrison Hunt is
from the Waypoona Board. Jake McClellan, the Wye Pappa board.
They're both with me. Good evening, Good evening, Ryan.

Speaker 26 (52:03):
Good to see christ Church on the news for all
the right reasons.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yep, No, just a couple of mentions today, Tyler. I'll
start with you. So you wait. You remind us, Tyler,
you're on the speed bump side or the non speed
bump side.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
We were the board that voted for the non speed
bump side.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Okay, do you need a speed bump? Well, clearly you
don't think so why not.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
There's a whole lot of things in play here. I'm
the recording counselor, so that's that's my jurisdiction, particularly for
twenty eight thousand residents in that area. But to be
honest with you, I wanted to make sure that we
had consensus across the board without a new scraps, so
that we can get this done as fast as we could.
There was differing views at the board after getting a

(52:49):
sort of feel for the board, so I pushed through
to try and at least get better than the status quo,
which means putting them the crossing without the speed bumps.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Okay, how dangerous is it, Jake? How many?

Speaker 12 (53:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (53:01):
Look, it's dangerous when you add a crossing, which is
what we were proposing to do. So when you add
a crossing but you don't actually do anything to make
people safe while they're crossing, it can become quite dangerous.
I think Tyler's being modest. He really wanted the.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Plan.

Speaker 11 (53:20):
The air board ended up signing off, but unfortunately, because
of some colorful characters sitting around his table, he wasn't
able to do so. So he did the best he
could under the circumstances.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Okay, so I'm just reading here. According to NZTA, there
were six crashes in the five year period between twenty
nineteen and twenty twenty three in the area on Dean's
av No one was injured in four of the crashes
and two people suffered just minor injuries and the others.
I mean, what are you farting around with this bit
of road for anyway, Tyler?

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Well, the thing is that those are the reported incidents
is and the things that I've been dealing with. I mean,
Rickitten is the second busiest ward in the city behind
Central and D. You've got fifteen thousand car movements per
day with around two thousand pedestrians. That was scoped over
a four day span, so it's quite a lot of
move in that area, so I just wanted to make
the space safer and outside the mosque, I actually witnessed

(54:13):
a near miss of a three year old girl I'm
nearly being hit by a van, So it was sort
of like drinking a cup of cold sick when I
had to push this through. But at the end of
the day, it's actually a massive, massive win for the
Dean's AV residents. I'm in a massive win for the
everyday users of Hagley Park and Dean's EV.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Can you guys see Jake this to everyone else? I mean,
you guys have got your processes and your meetings and
your whatnots, But to everyone else, it just looks dumb,
like one side of the road has a bump and the.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Other totally totally build.

Speaker 11 (54:43):
What would be done even dumber as if neither side
had a bump, Because as I said, it's not about
the incidences that are there.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Now.

Speaker 11 (54:50):
If you add a crossing, you're encouraging people to cross,
and if you don't do anything to keep them safe
while they cross, you're setting them up for I was
going to say a fall, but you're setting them up
to be hit by car.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Really okay, but but.

Speaker 11 (55:02):
We only know it should be on both sides of
the road, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Ryan. Okay, but it won't be tyler because you don't
that's a know from you guys. Right.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
Yeah, well, the board, the board had a different view.
But what I did do was actually after a twelve
twelve month review that there may very well be some
more implementation for those.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Okay, so what what will it actually look like? Can
one of you tell me? What will it just look like?
If I'm picturing a road, a normal road with with
a normal you know, bump on it, that speed bump
on it, it will just be that, but one side
like chopped off pretty much. Yeap.

Speaker 26 (55:41):
But look, there'll be there'll be a there'll be a
crossing point in the middle. There'll be a crossing point
in the middle. And this scheme design has the platform.

Speaker 11 (55:51):
And and a kind of different orientation.

Speaker 26 (55:53):
But yeah, it'll it'll look a little bit KOOKI I'm
not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Not noting that it's not a it's not a platform.
It's seventy five mil speed hunt, which is sort of
what they usually use in suburban area it's a bit lower,
it's it's less some pinging on automotorist and it actually
gets the slow down a little bit.

Speaker 11 (56:10):
Yeah, okay, all right, you know I was op post
the other sidehere his noe pitch.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
But whatsoever, Well, exactly, I think what we need to
do is set up like you need to make this
a tourist attraction to the inefficiency of local government and
people can come and take photos for their Instagram. It
can be like a new thing. I think we should.
I think we should provide it's going to bring tourists
to your area, Guys. Tyler Harrison Hunt from the Christiat

(56:34):
City councilor also the Wipeurner Board. Jake McLellan, Christiat City
councilor from the Wipe Upper Board eighteen to six.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
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Speaker 3 (56:49):
Stuart National Labor Minister on the huddle tonight. Hey Stuart,
I it's good to hear you on. Marris Williamson Aukland
councilor former National Minister. Hi Morris, good evening, Ryan, go
any views on that? Morris? You Obviously you've been sitting
in council meetings all day, you'll be familiar with all
of this.

Speaker 21 (57:06):
The insanity just never stops. I mean, we find examples
where there have been almost no injuries, no one killed,
no one injured, and the argument is, yes, but there
could be one day, so we should go out with
speed bumps that wreck your cars and bottoms of some
of the emergency vehicles. Transmissions have all been broken when
they've gone home with them at speed. I mean, if

(57:27):
if we just let some facts interfere with things, that
will be really quite different to the normal. Will what
I loved about this thing is why don't we just
do it week on and week off, So one side
has the speed bump one week and then they turn
it round the other week. And I mean, that's that's
how that's how insane this stuff is.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
That's just to your average punter, it's going to look
and sound pretty nuts.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Stuart terist attraction, that's what it is.

Speaker 27 (57:52):
Yeah, make one point on this. Yeah, you know, people
in CHRISTI you're going to jump up and down. But
you know we are talking about sort of halls. Will
horn Be pappanuis sort of the boat part of christ Church.
You've got fifteen thousand cars going up and down. I'll
tell you this will be a lot more dangerous now
because what will happen is the Bogans will approach that
speed bump and instead of going over the speed bump,
they'll zoom around it to get around it, and you
will end up with a hell of a lot of

(58:13):
accidents in bogan christ Church.

Speaker 14 (58:15):
I'm really really sorry, but this is just bloody crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
But Boganville, you're not going to be running with a
stupid decision. You're not going to be Prime minister anytime soon.

Speaker 14 (58:23):
Stuart, we'll talk like that. I'm not running for the
mirror christ Church.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
But you know, hey, well come back in just a
second because I want to get your views on America's cut,
the government deciding not to fund Stuart Nash, Morris Williamson
on the Huddle.

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Are lots of texts coming in about the pedestrian crossings.
For goodness sakes, we've had flat pedestrian crossings for most
of my life. Why do we suddenly need them to
be raised or for them to be bumps in front
of them? Moved to the America's Cup now, guys, the
government has said no to that. Apparently seventy five million

(59:06):
dollars is what they were after for twenty twenty seven.
Stuart that you know, there's the argument, well, do you
invest now and you reap the rewards later? Do they
stack up?

Speaker 14 (59:15):
Yeah, they kind of do.

Speaker 27 (59:16):
Actually, And the reason I say that is I was
Minister for the America's Cup as part of my economic
development portfolio. In the last Cup, we offered Team MW
Zealand sixty million dollars in a sort of a post
COVID world, and there was a big debate around the
cabinet table.

Speaker 14 (59:29):
There I go again in trouble.

Speaker 27 (59:30):
But you know, there's about a billion dollars of economic
development that accruis to the city and the country out
of such a big event like this. It is tough times,
I absolutely get that. But part of the role of
a government is to promote sort of economic development, economic
growth in The America's Cup really is the pinnacle of innovation.

Speaker 14 (59:48):
And I know it's a rich persons sport, but it's one.

Speaker 27 (59:52):
Of those kind of iconic events that really does bring
in immense amount of wealth and people and crowds and
innovation in a way very few other events do. So
I probably would have worn the seventy five million dollars,
keeping in mind you don't have to stump up with
it immediately, and and just talked and talked about the benefits.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah. Well, the problem with your one was that we
made a lost in me it was like one hundred
and fifty six million.

Speaker 14 (01:00:14):
Oh yeah, no, no, so the one that went to Barcelona.

Speaker 27 (01:00:17):
Yeah, we made a loss in our one because that
was purely because of COVID because we couldn't get people
in the country.

Speaker 14 (01:00:20):
Yeah, but the one when it.

Speaker 27 (01:00:22):
When it went to Barcelona, before it had gone there,
we offered sixty million dollars and that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
You see what you're saying, and Team New Zealand said, no,
we're going to head off shore.

Speaker 14 (01:00:30):
It was like, yeah, it was a shame because I
love it, but I love it. I love it because
of the economic development and the innovation of broad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yeah, but I love it too, but I and I
do genuinely enjoy watching it. Went down and watched it
last time it was here. But then you look at
you know, how many roads we need affect how many hospitals?
I mean, look a Dunedin hospital, Morris, what's your take?

Speaker 21 (01:00:48):
Yeah, look, I think the government's made the right decision.
While we're in the difficult economic situation we are, and
it is pretty dire out there. I think the low
level of priorities that stack up higher than this. But
there's one thing I want to raise. I raised it
with officials at Council when I got elected in twenty
twenty two. I just said to them, you guys put
a lot of money into the America's cup last time

(01:01:08):
it was here, and you funded Grant Dalton's syndicate and
so on, and the yeah yeah, I said, did any
of you ever think of putting a clause in the
contract that if you win, you'll have at least the
next two defenses held here in Auckland? And they said, oh,
he wouldn't have signed in that case. I say, oh,
so he didn't sign, that's up to him. We were
stupid and just giving them all the money, letting them

(01:01:30):
do that one it failed because of COVID. I get that,
But then he walked away to Barcelona. And my second
question is this, If it was so phenomenal for Barcelona,
and I keep reading it was fantastic for Barcelona, why
don't they want it back?

Speaker 14 (01:01:45):
Well, maybe they do, I don't think He's no, they
don't know, they don't they they don't want them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
And why aren't there other cities lining up? You know,
it really did make the money. They say that that
it has one of the other cities lining up to
do it too, And that's what's my question. Yeah, I
can't understand that, but either Hey, the Ministry of Education
has released its list of recommended reading for secondary students.
Shakespeare is manned at treat with the one Shakespeare book
that must be read, and there's a nineteenth century text

(01:02:10):
that must be read as well. What did you guys
read or can you remember reading anything? Stuart at high school?

Speaker 14 (01:02:17):
Yeah, look, I'm not against this.

Speaker 27 (01:02:19):
Actually, you know, I read in the article let's said, oh,
there's some fantastic New Zealand authors out there, and there are,
and could the students be encouraged to read those? But
you know, Shakespeare is considered the greatest ever exposed to
the English language. What's wrong without with reading the guy
who is the sort of the pinnacle in terms of English?

(01:02:40):
And are we talking about in this year? We're talking
about young men and women who we want to succeed
in the world. Give them a whole range of different
texts and topics. So they're going to get joys. They're
going to get Shakespeare, but they're also going to get
some fantastic New Zealand authors.

Speaker 14 (01:02:54):
I don't mind this at all of I'm brially honest
with you, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Did you read any Shakespeare at school?

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:02:59):
I did.

Speaker 21 (01:03:01):
I've got a slightly different view on it. I read
I was Hamlet and Macbeth, I think, and I literally
couldn't understand what some of it said. It's in such
old English. I'll give you my favorite quote, and you
tell me what this means. If it be now, tis
not to come. If it be not to come, it
will be now. And if it be not now yet,
it will come. The readiness is all well, abeout.

Speaker 14 (01:03:23):
Your girlfriend, mate, that's about a girl when you got
there or not.

Speaker 27 (01:03:26):
But but the thing is, but you know that when
you did was that when you repeat it the perform
for the second.

Speaker 21 (01:03:34):
But the best five years of my life I spent
in the third form that's from Hamlet. And I used
to read this stuff and I kept saying, I don't
understand because I did maths and physics and chemistry and
did well on them. But I was always struggling. But look,
those who know English well, they believe it's vital to understand.
But it's so old fashioned.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
And how it's Morris. What it does is make it
modern English sound easy, you know what I mean. In
that way, it's great for your confidence. I would have thought, okay, all.

Speaker 21 (01:04:01):
Right, I'll go back and read some more and see
if I can understand it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Now the Greens, Marris, you've got something you want to
get off your test about the Greens. We've we've got
two minutes to do this.

Speaker 21 (01:04:10):
But well, look the tamotha Paul stuff about police and
people are scared to walk down the street, and a
whole lot of the other things that she's gone on
about that being put in jail for a twelve dollar fine,
which is absolutely wrong.

Speaker 13 (01:04:23):
And now they've.

Speaker 21 (01:04:24):
Sort of come out with the sort of defense of
some of the stuff the guy had on his website,
even though he took it down immediately, So there's got
to be something going on. And my comment was I
knew both Rod Donnell and Jeanette fitz Simons from the
then Green Party. They were absolutely truly environmental thists. They
we're really keen to do things that save the planet.

(01:04:46):
This lot aren't. And I thought one of the funniest
questions I've ever heard in Parliament asked was David Seymour
got up and asked John Key once when he's Prime Minister.
Straight after, James Short asked a question on is that
the first question he's ever had on the environment from
the Greens? And the whole place burst out laughing because
it was so what was a Green Party and well
respected for some of the things they stood for in

(01:05:08):
the environment and conservation. They're now just a bunch of
nutcases to.

Speaker 27 (01:05:12):
The Alliance and drag Hey. The other thing I do
want to say is this guy Ben Doyle. You know,
I heard someone on the HOSK this morning saying, oh,
you know this is bad because we want good, diverse.

Speaker 14 (01:05:20):
People in Parliament, we absolutely do. This guy is not good.
Get rid of him.

Speaker 27 (01:05:24):
Standards have dropped considerably since Marris and I were there.
I think the Greens are the laughing stock. I can't
believe they're polling of the way they are.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
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Great to have your company this evening. After six, we're
going to talk to the EMA, the Employees Manufacturers Association
on health and safety. They've been well. The two announcements
in the government on the actually this week, lots of text.
We'll get to those after as well. In Australia also
we'll talk about the ABA decision in Australia. But in
Australia they are quite exercised, quite worked up about this

(01:06:06):
Chinese research vessel that is in Australia. Well it's not
even in Australian waters, it's just off the coast of Australia,
but in international waters. They are really worked up about it,
to the point where their defense force, their Navy is
monitoring this vessel. The kicker is it's the reason it's
there is because it's just been visiting New Zealand. Not
only have we been sharing quarters with this Chinese vessel,

(01:06:31):
but it's been parked at our port and Wellington. So
what's going on? Then we'll look at that after six
to two.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Evening, Nice to have your company. Brad Olsen on the
America's Cup decision and numbers. Did they add up? We'll
ask them shortly. Jamie McKay on the Country, Paul Bloxham
from HSBC on the RBA decision, and Indebrady in the
UK before top of the Hour as well. More movement
from the government on the health and safety sector. Yes
it is a sector and yes that is a problem.
This time they are reassuring landowners that they will no

(01:07:30):
longer be responsible for recreational activities that they permit on
their land. This all comes after Forcati White Island. You
remember the court decision which the find the landowners alongside
the operators. Paul Javis, the EMA Workplace Safety manager with
us Hi Paul, Hi, Hell you good, thank you, Good

(01:07:50):
to have you on the show. Just starting with the landowners,
did the FAKARTI decision? Was that quite a major for
scaring people off?

Speaker 28 (01:08:01):
I think I was because there were so many companies
that were prosecuted from the from the start said we
will plead the guilty right up front and said we're
taken away. But it was really the the decision by
the three brothers to appeal there the their conviction that

(01:08:22):
then the High Court then said, well it's it's while
they owned the land, they didn't actually work there. So
it's all about was work taking place there that the
three owners were undertaking and in that case it was none.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
And but despite that, what effect did it have on
you know, on on land both recreational but also for
businesses around the country.

Speaker 28 (01:08:48):
Yeah, well, I think because it's it's a high court
decision that that sets the precedents. I mean what's been
announced today kind of says the same thing that where
a far for example, let someone onto the land to
do some activities recreational, go fishing, drive the cod bikes, whatever,

(01:09:11):
then the farmer of themselves won't have any liability because
they aren't working on the area or where the quad
bikes are being driven. So it really comes back to
that notion. Who creates the risk in the case of
a quad bike is the person who's driving the quad bike.

(01:09:32):
The only parallel part to it is if the farmer
was working alongside where the quadlike was working, then the
farmer would have some duty them to inform the quad
bike people. I'm going to be cutting some grass down here.
There could be some flying stones, give me to be careful.
So just clarifies those kind of boundaries, whereas in the

(01:09:54):
current situation there are no boundaries. And what we've seen
in the marketplace is that farmers, just as an example
and others, we're taking a very risk averse approach in
that no one was allowed on the property, No clubs
were allowed on the properties because no one knew where
the boundaries were.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Do you expect this all? I mean, how much of
a cost was this to business? And will this you
know where we see a boost to growth from it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Look?

Speaker 28 (01:10:23):
I think so, because because the more we can get
back onto the land and clubs can do their activities
and people can go and do their recreational things. That's
going to free up and also let the farmers be
far more comfortable that where they aren't working on that
particular day when the activities taking place, they have no responsibilities,
whereas under the previous kind of or undercurrent regime they

(01:10:49):
might have been caught into question. So what this change
will mean is that they will be able to carry
on doing their farming. The recreational people can do what
they need to do and it would be very clear
and both parties can can live quite quite comfortably knowing
that they're doing there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
But individually, Paul, somebody's just texted, Ryan, do I smell
common sense? Is that about summon up?

Speaker 28 (01:11:17):
Well, we don't use common sense and health and safety
because the problem is too common under no sense in it.
But I understand, but I understand this the sentiment of it.
It is about about who's got the ability to control places,
who actually creates the risk.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
Paul, appreciate your time. Paul jarv Em, a Workplace Actor manager.
On the Governments announcement, it is eleven halfter six. So
to this ship that the Australians are monitoring, the Australian
Defense Force is monitoring a Chinese research ship off the
coast of South Australia. They're not happy with that. The
Australian media is going to town calling it a spy ship.
Sky News reporting it's suspected of collecting intelligence.

Speaker 21 (01:11:57):
I prefer that it wasn't there. But we're live in
circumstances where just as Australia has vessels in South China
Sea and vessels in the Taiwan Strait.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
They're worried it could be well, they're worried about actually
what it could be doing anywhere. It could be mapping
the ocean floor, it could be mapping our submarine cables,
which are critical for our lines of communication as a country.
So why would we care about a Chinese research vessel
off the coast of Australia. Here's the rub.

Speaker 15 (01:12:26):
For months, this advanced Chinese vessel, known as Explorer one,
has been trawling the seabed off New Zealand South Island.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Yes you heard that correctly. For the last two months
it's been on a research mission around Fjordland and other
areas of New Zealand. It's been docked and Wellington, our
nation's capital. So I just have a couple of questions
about this. Why are our armed forces not talking to
one another? If the Australian Armed Forces at Defense Force

(01:12:58):
is so worried about this that they're closely monitoring a
Chinese vessel, would no one has bothered to tell us,
hey that they look, that's a dodgy vessel. You want
to watch that? Do we not talk to one another?
That is what I want to know? And what's it
been doing while it's here? Have we really just been
looking at I don't know, seismic Have we we've been
looking at tectonic plates? Or have we been looking at

(01:13:19):
cables because there's a difference, or as all of this
just nonsense. The ship is completely harmless and Canberra is
overreacting because they're coming close to an election. Those are
the questions I have. We've been asking some questions today
and we'll get to those shortly. Next Brad Olsen on
the America's Cup.

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Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
We'll get to the Chinese ships and to Jamie mackay shortly.
Right now, Hospitality in z and Chris Hipkins of the
Labor Party seem to be the only people in the
country tonight who have said that the America's Cup it's
a bad thing that we're not funding this to the
turn of seventy five million dollars hospitalities. Steve Armatage spoke
to me earlier.

Speaker 22 (01:14:14):
I don't think it's reasonable to say that this is
money that just goes into a black hole. Actually, the
event can help the Bolster government coffers through GST revenue
from the teams being here and established over a period
of time, investment and technology both building componentry, even before
you get to the visitation. So in my view, this
is one of those instances where you're actually making an

(01:14:34):
investment to unlock the greater return over time, if.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
You believe it. Barcelona earned two billion dollars. Apparently that
was the net benefit to Barcelona. But then why aren't
there other countries lining up, other port cities lining up
to take the America's Cup. Brad Olsen is the Informetric
chief economist. He's with us tonight. Hey Brad good Evening,
what's your take.

Speaker 29 (01:14:54):
I completely back the government's decision not to commit seventy
five million dollars to this. I understand that some people,
you know, think that it will bring in an economic
benefit in similar but let's be real, when the fiscals
are in the position they are, when New Zealand is
running deficits out until potentially twenty thirty, all those small
bits matter, and I think you know, we would have

(01:15:15):
had to be quite upfront that government spending on something
like this would be reckless. I mean, you look at
the last time New Zealand hosted the America's Cup. The
analysis then showed that we made one hundred and fifty
six million dollar loss. Why would we do that again
knowing that we made.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
A loss last time? But that was they argued COVID,
so no one could come, I'm sure.

Speaker 29 (01:15:36):
But at the same time, I mean, if the one
bit of analysis that you have that shows that it's
a challenging time that you can't get it through, that's
one part. You couple that with the fact that again
we just don't have extra money to be spending on
what is a private event. By all means, try and
bring it to New Zealand. But if people think it's
that good of an investment, it's going to bring that
much money, they should stump up their own cash. The
private sector should be putting it forward themselves, but the

(01:15:58):
government cannot should not be funding everything. We just don't
have the resource.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Yeah, and there are benefits. I mean I was saying earlier,
look at the surgeries they've been able to fund with
the potentially saved money from the America's Cup. There are benefits,
presumably cost benefit and lyses analyzes. You could show up
the WAZU that would show that's actually good for the
economy too.

Speaker 29 (01:16:20):
Indeed, and this is all what comes down to what
economists refer to as an opportunity cost. Like it's not
like that seventy five million dollars is not going to
be spent at all, It's going to be spent on
something different. And so part of that is weighing up
where do you get most bang for buck? And I
think that rightfully the government has gone through their finances,
gone through all of the different asks because everyone's always
going to the beehive and asking for more money, and said,

(01:16:41):
look at the moment, we've got to prioritize and a
yacht race is not currently near the top of the
request list.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Brad Olson Informetrics, Chief Economists. Great to have your views,
nineteen after six. So coming back to the Chinese ships
is the research vessel? Did you know that they also
had kneeware scientists on board for the two months. This
is the one that the Australians have said it as
apparently been monitored by the defense force there. They're so
worried about the fact it might be spying on them.

(01:17:08):
So NIWA was on board this Chinese vessel. We asked
Newa for a statement, and we asked Judith Collins as
Defense Minister for a statement. I'll read both of them
to one bits of them to you. You never read
a full statement, pages long, boring, irrelevant information, try and
bury their lead anyway. Niwa says the Chinese vessel has
important research that it was doing. No different to any

(01:17:31):
research trip from another country coming here, apparently, so nothing
to see here. Apparently the process for allowing a Chinese
vessel to operate in our eez no different from any
other nation. We asked NEA about whether there were any
concerns about other from other countries. I should say or
from the New Zealand government about the ship coming here.

(01:17:52):
Niwa said no, so we weren't told. But why the
Australian Defense Force monitoring it and worried about it and
not telling us with Collins sent us this statement, I
understand it was working with kneewhere, it was following the
rules and we're not aware of any deviants from the rules. Hmm.

(01:18:13):
Something smells a bit fishy hair, doesn't it. I mean,
either the Australians are blowing up over nothing, which wouldn't
be far you know. I mean that's not impossible, or
we're just far too lax. Twenty up to six will
go to Jamie McKay on The Country next.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
The Rural Report with MSD Animal Health, home of world
leading animal identification.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Jamie mckaye, host of the Country with Me tonight, Jamie,
good evening.

Speaker 30 (01:18:38):
Good day, Ryan, how are good?

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Thank you? We've got another global dairy trade option overnight tonight.
What are we expecting?

Speaker 31 (01:18:45):
Well, let's sa it's on the eve of Liberation Day,
so maybe we're lucky, Ryan, We're getting this out of
the road before Trump slams his tariffs upon us. Look
my guy at Jordon Mike McIntyre, my go to guy
you should use, and he's very good, is picking essentially
flat to maybe a lift of one percent, which I
think is a great result, and that would surely go

(01:19:09):
close to locking in that ten dollars milk price for
this current season twenty four to twenty five. Incidentally, the
futures market's currently sitting at ten dollars ten for this
season nine dollars sixty five for next season, were being
helped by a sub fifty seven cent US exchange rate.
And also, and all this is happening, should I say,

(01:19:32):
despite a North Island drought which is putting pressure on supplies,
and not that much involvement slash domination as it was
in the past from the Chinese. So when we look
at the dairy industry, Ryan, I say, happy dairy days.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
What about Ikea? There's been some discussion about Ikea and
the meat balls and exactly what the meat balls made from.

Speaker 31 (01:19:56):
Well, I thought this was an April Fool's joke when
I read it. I read it last night, but I
actioned my thoughts upon it this morning. So Ikea, this
is the Swedish furniture giant, as they announced they were
coming here and way back in twenty eighteen, and apparently
they're nearly here and they're not going to use in
their new restaurant, their new Swedish restaurant and grab and

(01:20:20):
Goho style bistro in the new Sylvia Park store. They've
got meatballs and apparently their meatballs Ryan are iconic. But
here's the kicker. They're not using New Zealand beef. And
you'll say, oh, well, so what this is the company
Ikea I'm talking about that's running around our country at
the moment doing it's best to gobble up some of

(01:20:41):
our best beef and sheep farms to convert for forestry.
They say production forestry, but let's be honest about it.
One of the big attractions is the carbon offsets, so
you know, talking about adding insult to injury, rubbing salt
into the wound. I think, even if only token reasons,
they should be using New Zealand beef. When asked about

(01:21:02):
why they weren't using New Zealand beef Ryan, they said
their decision decision to source from an existing supplier in
Australia was based on efficiency and affordability, So that beef
has to cross the Tasman think of the carbon footprint and.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
What about taste. You haven't been mentioned that, Jamie, Thank
you very much, appreciate your time. Jamie mckaye hosted the
Country here on News Talk ZIRB. It is twenty six
minutes after six. You know, when Karmala Harris was select well,
how did you say she wasn't elected the leader of
the Democratic Party, remember, because there wasn't an election process,
They just said anointed. When she was anointed the leader

(01:21:41):
of the Democrats, she took a call from the Obamas
and they released a video on social media of Karmala
Harris accepting a call from the Obamas congratulating her on
becoming the leader, because obviously they needed to show to
portray that the party was rallying around her because there
was no process right out that the video that they

(01:22:02):
released of her taking the phone call, so it's just
Carmena Harris standing on a lawn outside her house with
the phone to her ear was faked. So she took
the call separately and they went, oh, actually, who we
should have got that on film, So they then she
just stands there talking to herself in the phone. Now
the problem, now that this has been revealed and I

(01:22:23):
dare say it's been revealed by Fox. But the problem
now that it's been revealed is that the video lives
in posterity forever. So everyone's replaying the video and going,
oh yeah, look it looks like she's she's acting, you know.
So just a tip for politicians, if you're going to
do something and put it on social media, just make
sure it's real. Make sure it happened. Twenty seven after

(01:22:45):
six News Talk ce B, we'll get to HSBC's Paul
Bloxham next.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and there's insurance and investments,
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Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
Just like my bo Twenty five away from seven Your
News Talks B, we'll get to end the Brady in
the UK before seven o'clock and Paul blockam standing by.
Out of Australia, the Reserve Bank has held official cast
right held the official cash right there at four point
one zero. Now arn Z read research have a polar
as you know, the political poll. I won't go into

(01:23:53):
that because it was basically confirming what we already know,
but well what we what their current situation is. But
they also asked a question about school lunches. And I
know we don't like talking about school lunches, but I
think this is worth mentioning. So a couple of interesting things.
So this is the iarentid's new poll that they've taken

(01:24:14):
over from Newshub. Sixty one point five percent of voters
believe parents are responsible for school lunches. The results were
gathered from March twenty first to March twenty seventh, so
just in the last week or so. And I'll get
to the question here. So voters were asked, and it's
sort of a dumb question, but voters were asked who

(01:24:34):
they thought would be should be most responsible for providing
school lunches. Why you wouldn't just say responsible, Well, I
don't know, but anyway, most responsible was the phrasing. Of
the one thousand people polled, sixty one point five percent
said parents, thirty two point four percent said the government
via a school lunch program, two point five percent said other,

(01:24:56):
and three point six percent said they did not know.
Support for parents was strongest amongst National enact voters. No surprise.
They're followed by New Zealand first and then Labor Green
to Party Malori supporters. You guessed it. They are more
likely to say government. Here's an interesting tidbit. Those on
the lowest incomes were more likely to name parents as

(01:25:17):
being most responsible, while those with the highest incomes were
more likely to name the government. Isn't that interesting? Twenty
three to seven, Ryan, Let's go to Australia. The Australian
Reserve Bank has held their official cash rate at four
point one. This is this afternoon. Interest rates had started
to come down in February, but the bank today decided

(01:25:39):
to hold off on going any further. Paul Blocks from
HSBC's two economists with me Hi Paul, good evening. Good
to have you on the show. So why is the
bank paused?

Speaker 6 (01:25:49):
Well, we kin't of thought they would for a start,
we had in mind that the market sot that they
wouldn't be doing anything today. They've given guidance back in
February that you know, although they could get over the
lines of delivering interest rate cup that we saw back
then on the eighteenth of February, they weren't likely to
deliver back to back cuts that the economy wasn't disinflating
quite quickly enough, And since then the domestic data at

(01:26:11):
least have come in line with what they had been expecting.
Growth is on a modest upswing, the labor market is
still quite tight, with the unemployment rate sideways, and inflation's
gradually easy. So they said today, you know, inflation's coming down,
and that's a good thing. But they weren't quite convinced
yet to be able enough that it was going to
get back to target for them to be able to

(01:26:31):
deliver another cup today.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Hell of a time to be making a big call
like that, the day before Trump's Liberation Day. Where will
find out about the tariffs? Do you think that played
into it at all? I mean, you know, not wanting
to pre empt a potential tariff war and what that
might mean for a recession or dare I say inflation.

Speaker 6 (01:26:49):
So I think today's decision was largely grounded on what
was happening domestically and how the domestic story is traveling.
But I think in this statement that we got from
the RBA today, it's very clear. It's a short statement,
it had a lot of information about the fact that
they were very uncertain about the global picture and what
that might mean. So it certainly was something that the
rpable to would be watching very carefully and they'd be

(01:27:11):
thinking about all. They relayed that, you know, their own
take is that this was going to be downside risk
to global activity, so downside risk to global growth. But
they were quite clear in their statement as well, saying
that they weren't sure what it might mean for inflation,
whether it was upside or downside for inflation. So they're
watching very carefully like the rest of US, in terms
of these global developments. They're very relevant and they may

(01:27:33):
drive a Munkey policy in one direction or another, but
they're also pretty clear today that they don't really know
until they've seen more information exactly which way inflation is
likely to drive inflation. That's the view that they portrayed today.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Yeah, the other problem of courses that could go both ways.
We could have a recession and and we could have stagflation.

Speaker 6 (01:27:52):
Well, certainly that's a risk and we need to watch
it very carefully. I think it's a risk probably more
for the US economy that we need to there. But
I think you know, if you think about what tends
to happen when there's a global downturn, it tends to
be disinflationary, and I think I think that's the main
way we're thinking about it at least, is that the

(01:28:13):
direction of risk is more likely that if it goes
poorly and the global economy slows down more, it's more
likely to be downside risk for inflation in Australia and
New Zealand. Actually that's the way we would think about
it for New Zealand as well, in part because there'll
be a lot of manufactured goods that might not be
going to the markets that they previously would have out

(01:28:33):
of China and Asia and so on, and they'll be
looking to put those sell those manufactured goods into another market.
And our countries are large importers of manufactured goods, so
we may very well see, you know, there's a risk,
we think at least of more disinflation rather than the
other way.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Rount Michelle Bullock, the Governor, indicated last time we spoke
there would be two cuts this year. Did did they
give any ford given all that uncertain did they give
any forward forecast?

Speaker 6 (01:28:58):
So the RBA doesn't actually take a view on what
they are going to do with monetary policy. The last
time around, what they did was they always have a
working assumption in their set of forecasts about what the
market is currently pricing at that point in time, and
that's what you're relying that. That's what they did last time.
But this time around they didn't publish any forecasts because
this is a meeting that's sort of in between the

(01:29:19):
two that has so there was no explicit guidance. I
think actually, if anything, they were pretty light on in
terms of the guidance. And a part of that reflects,
of course, this global risk that we're talking about that
actually it's difficult to know which way things are going
to go on the inflation outlook, and so they really
didn't provide very much that much a forward guide.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
All right, Paul, interesting stuff, Thanks for your analysis. Paul
Blocks and HSB ceed chief economist out of Sydney. It
is nineteen minutes away from seven brand Bridge. So tomorrow
is obviously Trump's big day. We won't hear about it
until let's local time tomorrow. We won't hear about it
basically until Thursday morning when we wake up. This is
tariffs and how much the reciprocal terrorists, how much they're
going to on different parts of the world and different

(01:30:02):
industries potentially as well, So we'll find out more about
that this week. I just wanted the question I have
about the poll from Orange z Red research on the
school lunches, which found the majority sixty two odd percent
of parents thought it was our people thought it was
parents most responsible for providing lunches for their children. Those
on the lowest incomes were more likely to think it

(01:30:23):
was parents well. Those on the highest incomes were more
likely to say it was the government. Why do you
think that is? Is that because do you think Champagne
socialists who are sort of ideological with the higher incomes
who were thinking it should be the government, and then
those on the lower incomes perhaps think more this is
my job than my kids. I'll feed them. How do

(01:30:44):
you explain that ro Sorry Dean has texted and saying
school lunch survey explanation of high incomes in favor of
someone else paying is due to overpaid public servants who
were all raving socialists with their noses in the trough.
I mean that some of them will be Dean, some
of them will be, but not all of them. Someone
else actually is asking about the deans av and christ

(01:31:06):
Church speed bump story saying are you sure that's not
an April Fools gag? It's not. It was actually first
mentioned yesterday and also with April Fools gags, you have
to tell everybody by midday otherwise the joke's on you.
So definitely not a gag. That's a real thing. Seventeen
away from seven will get to end it in the

(01:31:27):
UK next.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Croaching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:31:30):
It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and mass insurance
and investments. Crue your wealth, protect your future, news dogs
B fourteen to.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Seven now Indo. Brady's a UK correspondent and a good
evening to you, hey, Ryan, good to speak, good to
speak to your too. Now Birmingham has declared a major incident.
It's all to do with rubbish. What's going on.

Speaker 30 (01:31:53):
An ongoing strike and industrial action between the ben man
and women who work for Birmingham City Council. They're angry
about pay and changes to their working conditions. This has
been going on for some weeks, believe it or not,
and this is absolutely shocking. Seventeen thousand tons of refuse

(01:32:14):
on the streets of Birmingham are right now uncollected. Now
the councils say they have been sending out the odd
lurry here and there, leaving their depots to try and
get the refuse off the streets. It's unhygienic, clearly it
could cause health problems for the population and the councilor
claiming that picketers are stopping lrri's leaving the depots and

(01:32:35):
that's exacerbating the problem. So some common sense needs to
be used here. But it looks if you were to
look at parts of Birmingham right now and say that
this is a small mafia infested town in southern Italy
where there's some corruption problems with the local refuse collectors,
you could see and understand why rubbish is piled high.

(01:32:55):
This is Birmingham in England in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Yeah, not a great look. Now, the S and P
five hundred, the nasdeck Compass that had their worst quarters
since twenty twenty two this quarter. Obviously we're all bracing
for what Trump is going to do tomorrow. How is well,
what is the UK and Europe doing to prepare ender.

Speaker 30 (01:33:18):
Well, I can tell you kir Starmer is not going
to put in reciprocal tariffs. That was one view that
one card that the UK had up with sleeve. But
what we're hearing this morning here is that they will
just see what happens tomorrow. The word in UK government
is that Trump is looking for a big bang tomorrow.
So we know he loves the headlines, he loves the limelight.

(01:33:39):
So the feeling is in Europe that there's going to
be at least a twenty percent tariff right across the
board and everything going into the United States from Europe.
Now Britain is not going to bite back. There had
been the hope that Britain would be exempt, that they
might car of the UK out of all of these
European tariffs. Because Trump Starmer have a good relationship. The

(01:34:02):
UK government had put stuff on the table as a
kind of sweetener for the Americans and the Trump administration
removing the Digital Services Tax, which brings in about one
point six billion dollars a year from American tech, that
was going to be taken off the table. And ultimately
Trump wants his big day, he wants his big bang.
And I think the big fear here, Ryan is what's

(01:34:24):
it going to do to UK GDP. All the predictions
are it would wipe zero point six of a percentage
off the annual GDP for Britain that would put us
into reception.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Now, Kise Dama got a lot of us plate. He's
held a news conference in London. This is over the
issue of the bik migrants. What's he saying now?

Speaker 30 (01:34:45):
So he says it's unrealistic to reduce it down to zero,
but they have to try.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
Now.

Speaker 30 (01:34:50):
The backdrop to all of this is that the numbers
are getting worse and worse. So far this year, six
one thousand, six hundred and forty two men, women and children,
predominantly young working age men have got into the UK
illegally on these dinghies from France. Six thousand, six hundred
and forty two. That is the highest it has ever

(01:35:12):
been on April the first, So something needs to change.
The mathematics. The financials on this ryan are shocking. Sixteen
million dollars a day are being spent on hotel accommodation
for asylum seekers coming into the UK via dinghies from France.
So Starmer's big conference, interestingly he got loads of leaders

(01:35:32):
and politicians and police and coast Guard representatives. He also
got the social media companies in all the big ones.
I'm not going to name them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
You know who they are.

Speaker 30 (01:35:43):
And the reason he got them in is because, believe
it or not, these criminal gangs people smugglers are advertising
their services on social media, how you can get into
the UK, how much you need to pay, where you
need to be, and look what they give you, a
lovely big hotel to give you clow then you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Get a job.

Speaker 30 (01:36:01):
All of this is being advertised that their entire business
model is like something you see on Instagram.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
Absolutely shocking, which does that not reinforce the point that
the right makes about not providing those things in the
first place.

Speaker 30 (01:36:17):
It's a very very good point. But look, the criminal
gangs are exploiting everything, the people's desperation and they're pointing
out what's on offer when you get to the UK.
But I find it amazing that in this day and age,
they're able to use the algorithms, they're able to advertise
as if they're a legitimate business and Britain's picking up

(01:36:38):
the pieces. But look, we've got NGOs here, we've got
charities and I've seen it firsthand myself in Europe. I've
been there in Italy, Guys literally getting off boats and
being given brand new two hundred dollars trainers because they've
nothing else. And it is it is a business. It
is That is the only way to describe it. It
is a business. And I've seen this firsthand less than

(01:36:59):
any of our listeners get into a John Twitter. I've
been there, I've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
It interesting And to thank you for that really interesting stuff,
Ander Brady, our UK correspondent. It is nine minutes away
from seven News Talks EBB.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Six away from seven News Talks BB the tobacco issues
hit the headlines again today. A twenty five pack of
cigarettes cost you fifty dollars. I was shocked to read this.
Eighty percent of this is made up of tax that's
either excise of GST, and for the first time, the
amount that's collected is falling even though the tax rate

(01:37:40):
is going up, which indicates apparently that people are turning
to the black market for their tobacco. Because these are
the last hardcore group of smokers that are not giving up,
come hell or high water, They're going to keep on smoking.
Eighty percent of that is tax at this point do
you not just give up? I mean if someone if
someone wants to smoke at fifty dollars for a packet

(01:38:01):
of twenty five, are you going to stop them at sixty?
I don't think so. I think you just give up
at this point and you say, hey, if you get
your cancer, that's on you. You know, how many warnings
can you give people? I think we've done all the
warnings in the world. And eighty percent tax, that's the problem.
They want to keep collecting that tax, don't they. It's

(01:38:22):
worth nearly a couple of billion dollars to them anyway,
news talks here, b it is five away from seven.
If you want to smoke, smoke.

Speaker 32 (01:38:32):
If it's not constitute health advice.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
If there's one thing I hate more than smoking, it's tax. Okay,
that's how I feel about life. And what are we
going out to tonight?

Speaker 32 (01:38:42):
Here comes the Sun by the Beatles to play us
out tonight. We've had some more news about the four
Beatles movies that are going to be coming out in
twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:38:50):
Yes, that's right. Four.

Speaker 32 (01:38:51):
So the Sam Mendez has been working on a Beatles biopic,
but he was like, okay, it's just too big a
story for one movie, So I quite like what he's done.
He's going to do four movies and each is going
to be about one of the Beatles, so it's going
to be the same presumably the same or an overlapping
story told from four different perspectives.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
Wow, that's complicated.

Speaker 32 (01:39:09):
Yeah, yeah, but this is good though, right because if
your favorite was George, you can just go watch the
George movie. True, and if you're a super if you're
a superfan, you can watch all four. Yeah, and he's
also confirmed who's going to play them. So John Lennon
will be Harris Dickinson, who you was in Where the
Crawdads Sing, two of the guys from Gladiator two. Joseph Quinn,
who's also been in Stranger Things, is going to play George,

(01:39:29):
and Paul mescal is going to play Paul McCartney. And
Barry Cogan from Saltburn and the Banni Banshees of an
Isiroan he is going to play Ringo Star And if
you're a super fan, probably we probably knew all that
already because it leaked age zero. But anyway, he's a
confirmed that that's official.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Nice one ants, thank you for that at least a
big good music and all four.

Speaker 32 (01:39:48):
Yeah, April twenty twenty eight, and they're all going to
come out in the same month, so you can just
have an absolute Beatles, you know, frenzy then if you're
really into it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Beatles bonanza. Thank you, Thanks everybody for listening, Thanks for
your feedback, all of your emails and your text. Appreciate it.
We'll see tomorrow.

Speaker 31 (01:40:02):
It's like you siicit clue.

Speaker 13 (01:40:08):
He comes, he comes, It's all right, he comes, he
comes to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
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