Full Show Podcast: 01 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Digging through the spin spence to find the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oring It's Heather Dupers on.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up today, Trade
Minister Todd McLay on what's gone wrong New South Wales
police have nicked seven of our coppers and the police
minister wants to gloat chees with us after five and
Shorty has been saved. Finally we're going to speak to
New Zealand on air who stumped up the cash together?
Dup cur So was our government too relaxed about the
tariffs then? Because this is a shock today, isn't it

(00:37):
to find out that we've just been bumped up to
fifteen percent while Australia and dozens and dozens and dozens
and dozens of other countries have stayed on ten percent.
Now it seems to be directly related, most likely to
our balance of trade, and that the US has a
trade deficit with US, so we get fifteen percent, but
then a trade surplus with Australia so they get ten percent.
So perhaps it was inevitable and unavoidable as long as

(01:00):
the balance of trade sat like that. But then on
the other hand, Australia did kind of lock that in
as well. A they went out of their way they
lifted their ban on US beef imports, while we did nothing.
Should we have done something similar, because if there's one
thing that we know about Donald trumpets that he's a trader.
South Korea had their tariff drop from twenty five to
fifteen percent by promising to buy one hundred million dollars

(01:20):
worth of all ng Sir Kia Starmer sucked up to
Trump with a letter from King Charles. Now, we don't
actually know we did nothing like that. By the way,
we don't actually know what our diplomats were doing because
they were fairly guarded about it. But the vibe that
we kept getting from ministers and officials every time we
asked about it was, look, not a lot going on.
We're just waiting to see how this goes. We're on

(01:42):
ten percent. We're no worse than anybody else. That's the trouble,
though we are now worse than other people. We export
beef to the US. Australia exports beef to the US.
There beef now cops ten percent. Our beef cops fifteen percent.
Now we can argue about where the US consumers are
really going to switch up there eleven dollars fifty New
New Zealand steak if the Aussie steak is only fifty

(02:04):
cents cheaper. I mean, what's really the difference between eleven
fifty and eleven? But I chose a butter last night
because it was a dollar cheaper than the other butter.
So maybe they will, Which brings me to the question
that I asked at the start of this. Were we
too relax because we definitely and quite deliberately opted for
Winston's head below the parapet approach. But maybe what we
should have done was opted for the same approach at
Albanesi and Starmatok, which is to suck up instead. Given

(02:27):
that look where we are and they are. Both their
countries are now on ten percent, we're sitting on fifteen.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Would Heather do for c Ellen?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Nine two nine two is the text number standard text
fees apply. Now looks like we are facing a shortage
of school board members. To fill every single board in
the country, we need ten thousand people. Only two thousand
people have applied so far. Meredith Kennett is the School
Board Association President Ham Meredith, Hi, what's going wrong with here?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (02:59):
I don't know if you're as much going wrong. I've
just had some really great updated numbers that one of
our electronic voting people, we actually have four thousand more
nominations than we knew about, so we're definitely more than
halfway there, which is great.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Hold on. So we thought it was only two thousand,
and now it's six thousand. Yeah, good news?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Eh?

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Is that because in the last few hours all of
these people have been kicked into get or did you
lose four thousand somewhere?

Speaker 5 (03:23):
No, because we've got a few different providers who are
providing the electronic voting kind of systems, which are very
new to schools. We just hadn't got the updates that
we thought we would, and we've gone our hunting for them,
and sure enough, there's some people sitting there.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Lost one of the ballot boxes. Okay, well that's a
good sign. But we're still four thousand short, right, We've
still got only sixty percent. Is that about what you
would expect or should we be worried about the gap there?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Well, it's a lot better than I felt this morning,
so that's good news. But you know, there is still
a gap, and there is definitely still room for people
to get involved if that's.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
What they want to do. Okay, and how long have
we got to find those remaining four thousand depends on.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Your local school, So I know that there are schools
that are closing today and there are schools across the
country who don't close till next Friday. So it's all dependent.
You have to check out your own commun meridith.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
So we need to find four thousand at least by
the end of next week. That is still that. I mean,
that sounds like it's still a reasonable task, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I think it is reasonable. But we often do have
a bit of a surge in numbers, especially with a weekend.
People have a bit of a chance to think about it,
but they're blur up together and then then come together.
But yeah, no, I mean, our principles are definitely out there,
scanned people and children, tapping people and asking them to
come along.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Is this a system that is I mean, is this
worse than normal? Because people are very busy with the
cost of living and all the other stuff that's going on,
but they just don't have time or is this normal?
I think it's a. I think it's a bit of both.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
A number of principles have said that it feels a
little bit not quite as it normally would be. Yeah, sorry,
after that's going to come on through now, are you there?

Speaker 6 (04:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, sorry, I was just being just directed by.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
The Sorry, carry on that. Don't worry about that.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Okay, good the Yeah, principles are still a little bit
worried that it's that it's slow coming through. But then
we also have some schools which are well over subscribed,
I mean my own personal school, like for example at
Hobson for Point in Auckland, we've got twenty nominations for
six positions, so some schools are doing fines.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Meredith, is this a sustainable model if we are scratching
around just to find warm bodies to fill positions that
actually are really important to a school.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Yeah, I mean that's a good question. And one of
my coworkers this morning talked about maybe a few more
people want to combine their boards and have less people,
but like it's important that communities continue to get engaged
in their school. A school is a hub of the community,
so we want to keep encouraging people to do it.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Okay, So what are you suggesting that some schools, like you,
might have three or four schools in an area combine
their boards and those boards look after more than just
one school at a time.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
I mean it's a possibility my board and my school
board is two schools one board. So in some areas
that could really work. There are not so many of
us across the country who are combined boards, but it's
certainly an option if people were really struggling. Yeah, and
who knows, I mean people will come up with other
options as well. Probably shoulder tapping is not the most

(06:24):
sustainable model, but it can work.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Meredith, Thanks very much. I really appreciate it. Meredith Kennett
school Board Association prisident. You know I was on the
school board when I was because you know how you
have you have like a The look that ants just
gave me was wow. I didn't realize you were that
much of a nerd. It was the concession prize because
they didn't want to give me head Girl because it
wasn't popular enough. I could be honest about it, I'm

(06:47):
self aware enough. Not enough people liked me, so I
couldn't be head Girl. Emma got it probably well deserved
him as one of my bed to.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
See that you've forgiven and forgotten and you haven't held
onto that.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, you've gone like and talk a lot of mac
about Emma actually, but anyway, Emma is one of my
best friends. So that's okay. It works out fine, us
happy for her, but the sound very happy for it.
Concession prize was that they thought I didn't know what
they were doing. They were like, you're going to be
so busy at the Board of about the board of trustees,
being the student rep. We can't possibly load you up
with both of these things. But what they've done was

(07:18):
they just they just given me the board of trustees
thing to soften the blow, or what kind of a
softening of a blow is that? Have you ever sat
on a board of trustees? Holy heck, that was a
Wednesday night that you didn't want to forget. I forgot
though you did want to forget. I forgot until I
was reading the article about this today that we used
to get about fifty five bucks and appearance though, so
you know, at the time, being a student, that wasn't

(07:38):
half bad. I appreciate that now in retrospect, anyway, do
it if you can, if you can be bothered it's
doing good, but geez, we've got to get a better
system than this is as rubbish, isn't it? Really? Quickly?
Shortland Street, Shorty Street, We've been covering it on the show.
There were real signs Shorty Street was not going to
be saved, but it has been saved. What they've done
this is they've basically ends it on air. Has stepped

(07:59):
in again with taxpayer money again to save it, this
time less than last time, so two point five million
dollars and they've cut the number of episodes from one
hundred and thirty eight down to one hundred and twenty.
We're going to have a chat to Enz on air.
The boss there, Cam Harland, will be with us in
an hour's time, quarter past four.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
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Speaker 3 (08:28):
Heather, I think you're looking at the tariff situational wrong.
Australian beef farmers are not happy with the beef imports
coming in there when you can't prove the quality or
where it's from. Think our fifteen percent has more to
do with our anti anti nuclear stance. She's got all
the theories going on anti nuclear stance GST sitting at
fifteen percent all of the above. Anyway, I'll come back
to that. It raises a fair point, but it's wrong.

(08:48):
Eighteen past four Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters with US Pioneer. Hello, Heather, Right,
the Warriors. I'm ready for this game? Is this like
a is this just a stock standard game? Or is
this actually something important?

Speaker 7 (09:00):
In this game?

Speaker 8 (09:01):
Now?

Speaker 7 (09:01):
The season defining?

Speaker 9 (09:02):
I reckon?

Speaker 10 (09:03):
You know, well, I just think you think about the
scenario if they were to lose to the Dolphins tonight
and the chasing pack that will soon swallow them up.
In terms of the top four, the Warriors are currently fourth. Yeah,
they've got a three point lead over the Panthers and
another point back to the Broncos. But both of those
teams are in pretty good nick and on the charge,
particularly the Panthers. The Warriors have the Bulldogs next week,

(09:26):
who are third currently, so that's a tough game too.
If they were to win tonight, I just get the
feeling it might be the springboard they need into the
back end of the season. They've got some players coming
back next week. And then a couple of weeks after that.
But if they were to lose tonight, I just feel
as though the chasing pack might might swallow them up,
as I say, and they won't be your top four

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side at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Okay, So there's a lot riding on this. Hey It
Phoenix women's team is looking like it might be.

Speaker 10 (09:53):
Okay, absolutely yeah. World class coach signed during the week,
Bef Priestman. I'm sure you're across that and her, but
now her future is looking bright with the Phoenix, as
is the club's with her at the Helm. And then
today fifty cap football ferm defender CJ Bott she was
confirmed as the latest signing. She actually grew up in Wellington,
so it's full circle for her back to her hometown

(10:14):
to play professional football. It's a really impressive roster, Heather.
You know that Wellington Phoenix women have never made the
playoffs and there are four seasons of existence. But you
look at the team they've assembled and the coach at
the Helm and I think it's not too long a
bow to draw to say they're going to be a really,
really good team to watch in the summer.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I haven't had a chance to talk to you about
priestsmen coming over. I reckon, we're lucky to have it
because I mean Haycart to go from the head coach
of Canada to coaching the women's football team in Wellington,
don't you know?

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (10:43):
I know there are dissenting voices around what she did
to earn the band, but the iron of it all
is Heather, if she hadn't done that, there's no way
the Phoenix would have gone right.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And don't we want to be the ones doing the
dirty rather than on the receiving end of the dirty front?

Speaker 10 (10:55):
Ben Well, I'm not suggesting that she's going to continue
doing it she.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Does on it's not fair if she does the dirty
for Canada then comes over here and as all good
girl for us?

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Is it?

Speaker 10 (11:04):
I think the main point at play here is that
she is a world class football coach attracting, as we've
just said, some top quality players to the club. I
think it's a pretty uh. It's a great piece of
business and one which wouldn't happen if she hadn't put
a drone up against the ceyeur And let me know
if you.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Spot her at the drone shop in Wellington. Okay, Well, yeah,
well let me know, but no one else because we
don't want to. Yeah, we absolutely don't want to get
her in trouble. We want to help her out. Jason Pine,
thank you so much. We can sport host mid day
to three o'clock tomorrow and Sunday heither. The last thing
we need is imported beef from the USA via Mexico. Okay,
do you really think that the Aussies who eat awesome

(11:41):
meat from Australia and awesome meat from US, they've got
the option of all this fantastic meat from Australasia. Do
you reckon they're really going to go to the supermarket
and buy a bit of gross old American beef. You
know they're not going to do that, right, That's not
going to happen. So the concession by Albanezi to lift
the ban is just it's just for show, isn't It's
just performative. He's going, yeah, okay, we're lifting the ban

(12:03):
and then no one's going to buy it, which is
the same thing that's happening around the world with like
you know, if the Japanese let the American cars and
no Japanese person is going to buy a gigantic American car.
It doesn't fit on their roads. So some of the
stuff you just have to do just to make him
feel good. Kind of play him at his own game.
So even if we were to I mean, I don't
even know if we've got a band on their beef,
who knows, But if we were to do something like that,

(12:24):
it would ultimately not really result in anything, would it.
So play him at his own game, get smart about it.
Four twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Moving the big stories of the day forward or when
it's hither dups on drive with One New Zealand let's
get connected news talks that'd be on the tariff shock.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Todd McLay is going to be with us after five
o'clock right now, he is giving a press conference.

Speaker 11 (12:46):
Alex Waters today have whether the increase of ten percent
tariffs extremely well and talking to many of them, the
larger ones, as Nicholas said, they've either been passed the
cost on of resorb it or have played choices themselves
about other markets that give them great certainty or they
might get a better return it fifteen percent. An additional
five percent makes that more challenging for them, but there

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is still confidence and their ability in that market to
provide the high quality goods that New Zealand to produce.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Us, as I say, with us after five right now,
twenty five past four.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yes, you want to know who's back.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
You've missed him. It's been seven years. Jamie Lee Ross
is back. Oh yeah, that's right. You remember him of
money Bags for the National Party back in twenty eighteen
running for Auckland's Howick local board in the forthcoming local
body elections.

Speaker 12 (13:37):
It's a shame in this industry that, you know, sixteen
years of public office gets narrowed down into a few headlines.
But actually over those sixteen years I spent a lot
of time on the ground doing a lot of good work.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Did a lot of good work. And what went wrong.

Speaker 12 (13:51):
I had a war with the leader of my political
party of the time and it didn't end well.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
That would be war that he started himself. I just
love the way that people tell their own stories. Anyway,
I know what you're wandering, right, it's been a little while.
What's he been up to for the last seven years?

Speaker 12 (14:09):
I run a professional business where forty people earn and
then come from that business right there today we provide
a clean and safe place for people to work and
a commercial building and a perfectly legal enterprise.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Okay, you know what I'm just going to cut through.

Speaker 13 (14:24):
Do you know what it is?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
It's an escort agency. It's called Sapphire Blue and he
goes by the name Dylan Rose. So that's what he's
been up to. And of course now you wander why now,
why are you coming back to local body politics.

Speaker 12 (14:35):
I started the business. It's growing to the point where
I'm fairly hands off an administrative now and I have
time free to.

Speaker 13 (14:41):
Do good work.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Nobody's going to buy that because you get paid fifty
five thousand dollars to sell on the local board. Mate,
that's why anyway, good luck, did you know what? Okay,
to be fair, to be fair to him. On the
plus side, he has got a lot of name recognition.
People are going to look at go I know that name.
I'm not going to ticket. But on the minor side,
he does run an escort agency, so we'll see how
that goes. Heither. Standing for your local school board is

(15:06):
very effective if you want to push back against the
stifling the wokeness of many schools. Are highly recommended for
anyone who's inclined, particularly seniors who have got a time
on the hands all Jamie Lee Ross, He's got time
on his hands. But that's a fair point from Sarah.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
If you don't like what's going on at your kiddy
school and you're complaining about the curriculum and all that
kind of stuff, get on the board, make a difference.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
News is next, recamping the day's big news and making
tomorrow's headlines. It's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand.
Let's get connected news talks that'd be.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Here is coming.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Please, don't got tensions of the standing by out of
the US for US Barrys Soclvia. Thus in ten minutes
time on. Don't even get him started on Trump's tariffs
because it's Trump doing something which may some furious. Also,
if you speaking of furious, this might make you furious.
New South Wales has just had a graduation ceremony for

(16:08):
its police officers today and about twenty one of them
have been poached from other places like you know, Act Victoria, Queensland,
those kinds of places. Seven of them, thirty percent from
New Zealand. Seven of our coppers just graduated in New
South Wales today and they are stoked about it, so
stoked that the police minister from New South Wales wants

(16:29):
to come on the show and gloat, so we'll let
her after five o'clock twenty four. Away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
So we are not the only ones who are not
happy with our tariff rates. Today. Canada was expecting twenty five,
they got thirty five. A former trade minister says Canada
needs to diversify away from the US.

Speaker 14 (16:47):
Reduce the over relias, make ourselves stronger and much more competitive,
and go and pursue relationships and partnerships and deepen those
with allies and trading partners that we have today.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Australia's got ten percent, as we know, but they still
want to get that down to zero. Here's their trade minister.

Speaker 15 (17:04):
We believe in free and fair trade and we will
continue to put the argument to the United States that
they should remove all tariffs on Australian products.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Unfortunately, for Trump, tariff's an't the only thing the media
want to ask him about today. You said that.

Speaker 16 (17:22):
Jackary Epstein saw people from Mara a Lago at the time.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Did you know why he was taking those young women, including.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Virginia I would figure it was ABC fake news that
would ask that question.

Speaker 9 (17:34):
One of the worst.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Finally, this is very very cool. The world's oldest baby
has been born. Thattius Pierce was born from an embryo
that was frozen in nineteen ninety four, which is thirty
one years ago. His parents, Lindsay and Tim, said they
didn't want to break any records. That wasn't the point.
They just wanted a baby and happened to get Thattius as.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Embryo International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
And then to punish him, they called him Thatius. Dan Mitchinson,
US correspondent with US. Now, Hi, I love how you guys.
You guys definitely go there's a thing with you people
in the state. So you love a good and good,
solid sort of seventeenth century nay may.

Speaker 16 (18:21):
Yeah, yeah, I think they do. Every once in a
while you hear a name like this and you're going, wow,
is that still around?

Speaker 3 (18:26):
But you know some people like it, Yeah, and it'll
be it'll it will have it'll be like Thatius Johnson
the fourth, you know what I mean, because you love
those ones as well, don't you anyway, No, you do,
not to shame you out for your cultural stuff, but anyway,
talk to me. But I feel like you owe it.
We owe it to you today because of what you've
done to us. So how's Trump feeling about these tariffs?

Speaker 16 (18:44):
Well, I think he's kind of happy. I mean, Australia,
like you said, they're celebrating. I think a little bit
more having you know, the ten percent tariff as opposed
to your fifteen percent. But you know, basically, Trump has
held firm in his belief of the importance of our
economy to the global economy, and I think that goes
against what some I'm sure a lot of people in
your country agree, economists and some investors say these tariffs

(19:06):
are going to be counterproductive. And things were a little
bumpy to start with, and I think Trump backed down
a couple of times and he was trying not to
lose face. But in the end, you know, he stood
firm and he he got most of what he wanted.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Is this playing out the way that he wants?

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Well, I mean that's hard to tell. I wish I
could say yes or because I'll put.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
This to you, right, A lot of people are judging
him by the fact that he's only managed to strike
something like living deals or something like that, and that's
being held up as an example of the fact that
this is not successful, when in fact, I see it
the other way. He doesn't want to strike deals. He
wants tariffs. So having eleven deals is no measure of
the fact that this is not successful.

Speaker 16 (19:43):
For him, right, because it's eleven deals that the previous
administration didn't have before. And like we've talked about in
the past, you know what Donald Trump is sort of
a master of is he'll throw a thousand things out there,
but he'll focus in on two or three and that's
kind of what gets the time the media, and then
that proves to be successful.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, but it's not even because a deal is not
a measure of success for him, right. You and I
think a deal is a measure of success because traditionally
it would be, but for him, actually just having the
tariffs and the money going into your reserves, that's the measure.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Of success, right.

Speaker 16 (20:16):
And that's that's what he's going to be talking about
as he makes the rounds, you know, tomorrow and into
the weekend shows too. Is going to say this is
money that the US deserves and should be getting and
we are getting it now from these countries, and he'll
continue to go after the other ones that haven't made
a deal.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Now, listen, after the grief that he gave Jerome Pale
the other day for the renovations at the Feed Reserve,
how can he justify two hundred million dollars for a.

Speaker 16 (20:37):
New ballroom because he says it's something that should have
happened a long time ago. This is going to be
ninety thousand square feet and he says that to tell
you the truth, that we just don't have enough room
we you know, whoever's in the White House to host
these big events. So he wants to build something that
can do that. And this is going to be the
first major change to the mansion since gosh, I think

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the late forties with the Truman Malcony. It's going to
cost two hundred million, and he says, or at least
the White House is saying that this will be paid
for by the President and by donors, which I find
really interesting. That's an awful lot of money. And Donald Trump,
if there's one thing he is good at, is he
doesn't like to spend his own money. He likes to
spend other people's money, so I think that's where a

(21:21):
lot of this is going to come from.

Speaker 17 (21:22):
I see.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Okay, now are you guys up in arms about this
AI model campaign?

Speaker 16 (21:27):
Well, you know, I mean, basically, it's with Vogue right now,
and you've got a lot of this woman who is attractive,
and she's got wavy hair, it's blonde, perfect teeth like
of course most of us have over here, and you know,
she's really put together, so you think, okay, this is
another model. There are a dime a dozen in these magazines,
and then you look at the small print on the
page and they say this was created using artificial intelligence.

(21:48):
So boom, here comes the outrage. You've got the real
life model saying AI is taking away our jobs and
our careers. And then you've got social media trolls who
are saying, now women have to compete to just perfect
looking models, but now with AI models who.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Aren't even real. So it's a it's another unrealistic expectation
of the whole beauty thing.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
What did you not think that she actually looked like
that Australian bird who was in Barbie? Do you know
who I'm talking about?

Speaker 4 (22:16):
I didn't see Margot Robbie, Margo Robbie. Oh, Mabie.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
She looks at Margo Robbie, doesn't she So she actually
doesn't look all Americans. She looks all Australian.

Speaker 16 (22:25):
I think she looks a little more attractive, to tell
you the truth, than Margot Robbie.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, I'll just leave it at.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
That, because I think both of us just realize that
right now, who are we to talk? It's Margot Robbie.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Yes, yeah, that's that's right.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Hey, thank you very much. Dan appreciated it. Look after yourself.
That's Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent here. The GST that we
apply to imported US goods is a fifteen percent tariff,
so it's quid pro quo is this? I mean, I'm
seeing these texts come in that go there is an
Australia only got ten percent just because they're VAT is
only ten percent, and now GSTS fifteen percent, so we
got it. That doesn't make any I mean, I've to

(23:00):
be fair, it's Donald Trump. Not a lot needs to
make sense, But that doesn't make any sense. If it
was that we were slapping GST on products from overseas
and not our own, then fine, then that is a tarff.
I mean, you could argue that that's a tariff in
some way like looks like one, right, it kind of
works like one, But that's not what's happening. We're putting
fifteen percent on everything. We're putting fifteen percent on our

(23:21):
own stuff. So it's not really the same though as it.
But anyway, no, maybe that's how his brain works. I
think this is sad.

Speaker 17 (23:29):
Now.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I was telling you the other day about the pharmacy
and the pharmacist having dispensed the adult dose of phosphate
to the premature baby, and then the premature baby died.
That pharmacist, it turns out, was an intern by the
looks of things, because an intern has just been suspended
by the Pharmacy Council and is now not entitled to practice.
So once again I will say this to you, whatever

(23:51):
medication you get, just double check it yourself. It'll take
you a minute and it'll be worth it. You just
want to know for sure that everything is right. Seventeen
away from.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Five politics with centrics, credit, check your customers and get
payments certainty.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
By the way, Winston Peters is not talking about the
tariffs at all. He's referred all questions to Todd McLay.
Todd McLay, and if Tod McLay doesn't talk, all questions
are being referred to the Minister of Finance. So Winston
doesn't want a bar of what's going on right now.
And Todd mclay's with us after five fourteen away from five,
Barry Sober, Senior Political correspondence with US. Hey, Barry, good afternoon.

Speaker 9 (24:25):
Western's a diplomat, of course, and so he's playing a
very under the counter diplomatic role here, whereas Tod McLay.
He's got to talk to the Americans yet again today.
And you will remember that Todd McClay said that anything
any other country that came in under what we're going
to pay, they've got the big advantage. Now you only

(24:47):
have to look across the ditch to see that the
Australians at ten percent have got big advantages. One is
our wine exports to the US, and that's a simple one.
The other one's beef. You know, New Zealand's increasing its
beef exports to the United States. And you've got to
remember too that the United States is the second largest

(25:10):
export market for New Zealand goods.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
So it's a very.

Speaker 9 (25:13):
Important market for US. And let's hope that they can talk.
You talked earlier about the suck ups, and so care
starmer offering the letter from King Charles, or we've got
a Charles in this country that maybe we should be
using as Bob Charles, who Bob who Donald Trump loves.
Maybe we could get a letter from Bob Charles to

(25:37):
Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I mean, this is the difficulty though, in all seriousness,
if we tried to suck up, what would we use
to suck.

Speaker 9 (25:43):
Well, that's the problem. We new Zealand's gotten. Don't forget
we turned Donald Trump down for a casino here back
in nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Do you think he's still holding it?

Speaker 9 (25:52):
Well, he's a man to hold grudges. So who knows.
But McLay said, I've just been watching his news conference
with Nicola Willis. He said that there are a number
of areas where there could be exemptions. I wonder what
they are. Are they beef and wine? Who knows? And
the basic tenant here is that anyone who sells more

(26:16):
to the US than they buy a penalize more than others.
And you know, our surplus in terms of exports is
half a billion dollars, not a lot of money, and
waiting in the wings is more Boeing purchases both by
our military and buy in New Zealand. So that'll tip
the balance the other way to maybe that's a bargaining

(26:38):
chip as well, because it'll be then in the American's
favor and that's what it's all about. So it's a
hell of a body blow in New Zealand. Fifteen percent,
and don't forget in April it was Donald Trump that
said we would be paying ten percent.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I mean, I feel like I feel like Todd
mcclay's KPI just changed. Five minutes ago. It was can
you get the deal with India? Now it's can you
get this to ten percent? It's got to be his
priority now, absolutely absolutely it does.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Okay, Now, what do you make of Winston Peter's want
to wanting to entrench New Zealand as the name to
get rid of Altsy at all?

Speaker 9 (27:10):
Well, he got the slap down the other day from
the Speaker Jerry Brownlee when he Winston likes to refuse
to answer questions in the House that have at her
Rah in them, and he said that look, any true historian,
a cultural expert in this country knows that at hera
is not the original Moldy word for this country. And

(27:33):
he said, you know, people should think about this, that
it should be in legislation that's not written anywhere in
legislation in a formal sense that this country is New Zealand.
The thing that Winston's more concerned about than many other
areas is that the public service have been creeping moory
names like Waka Katahi to futt or you know, places

(27:57):
like that that suddenly crept into the vanaka in New Zealand. Now, Winston,
being a Moldy can say that if it was us
saying that it's disgraceful, then we'd get a label attached
to us pretty quickly. But Winston's saying it, He's got
the label anyway. It doesn't really matter. But look, he's
old fashioned. He thinks that we should be in New

(28:17):
Zealand we salute the flag that our four bears fought
to preserve, and therefore it should be legislating.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I'm so tired of this nonsense from Winiston. I just
you know what, I think God should do us a
favor and get one of these ridiculous bills drawn out
of the biscuiton so we can see what Winston's really
made of him, whether he's really going to vote for
this crap he would, do you really believe it? Yes,
he does.

Speaker 9 (28:39):
I know he cares. He's a nationalist, don't forget. That's
what New Zealand First is a nationalist party. He's a
good mate of Farage in the UK, So think along
with the.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Water Right down if he had to. Anyway, look very
quickly on the oil and gas band. I know that
the ban has now been lifted, but are we actually
going to see anyone drilling or is this just performance?

Speaker 9 (29:01):
Well, the key to this isn't it really is the
basically the coalition trying to get agreement out of the
opposition parties. That's the Mauldi Party, the Greens and the
Labor Party that basically brought in this ban as one
of their first actions on becoming government back in twenty seventeen.

(29:22):
Don't forget Shane Jones was standing on stage with Sinda
Dern when this was announced and it came out of
the blue for the industry. I in fact broke the
story and it was tipped off to me from the
industry that this was going to happen. Nobody could believe
they'd be that stupid where alternatives hadn't been put in place. Nevertheless,
the band came in. We're importing Indonesian coal now and

(29:46):
we're running out of gas reserves. One can only hope
now that there's a signal being sent out to investors
this is the place to invest in. These areas going.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I tell you in a minute why they won't. But hey,
we'll wrap the political week. That was when you come
back about quarter past six. Thanks Barry, that's eight away
from five and Barry, so about sing your political correspondence.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Putting the time questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

Speaker 18 (30:08):
Breakfast an old idea that's been reheated with a briefing
paper suggesting that NCEEA has failed to provide clear pathways
into the trades. Doctor Sandra Gray's the Tertiary Education Union
National Secretary Look New.

Speaker 19 (30:19):
Zealand does unfortunately have quite a bad attitude towards trades
and vocational education. We have this idea that if you
push everybody into the academic and into universities, we're going
to get higher wages, you're going to get a better life. Outcome.
So this is a system wide problem. We don't take
vocational education seriously and we really don't talk to earlier

(30:39):
enough about the mini parts that you can take in
your life.

Speaker 18 (30:42):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
a Vida News Talk.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Z B here the why would you invest in a
country that's just going to turn around and ban your
industry again in three years? Bang on, That's exactly what
I was going to say. So it's listening to what
was going on yesterday in politics, and I think it
was Steve Abel from the Greens. If you don't know
who I'm talking about, it's the one who's got like
a rumpel Stiltskin like look about him. You know, he's
got sort of short on top. Was there a top

(31:07):
knot there for a bit there was a top knot
bolding with a topknot, and you get like, you get
the image that it was like fully hippie, you know
what I mean. And then like anyway, so now that
you know now that I've painted you that picture, so
I think it was Steve Hope pops up in the
house and is like, you can't revive this. The zombie
of an industry, because why would anyone invest in it

(31:28):
when they know that there will just be another government
that's gonna come in and just put this band back on.
And I thought, you jerk, And that's what we're dealing with.
That's what labor's dealing with. Labour needs to understand that,
because when you've got we've got fruities like that standing
up and saying things like that, people are gonna look
at it and go awesome, yeah, real great, great coalition partners.
You've got their labor. And so that's the problem. As

(31:50):
long as that is a potential government, and it is
a potential government Labor plus the Greens plus the other
lot the hangers on, then you know, you know, why
would anybody invest in it? But Steve might come in
and ban it again. Anyway, listen, I've got some very
very good news for you. Do you remember that kafuffle
that was going on about the big building in k
Road in Auckland, which was it was just an absolute

(32:11):
disgrace because it was the James Kirkpatrick group had had
put in an application to build I think it was
like eleven story high and it was going to be
some residential and maybe some retail downstairs or something like that,
and it looked to me quite nice. I thought, yep,
we should say yes to that. And then the council
said na, because it doesn't look nice and we prefer

(32:32):
the gravel parking lot we've got at the moment. Anyway,
that's just been overturned. Council has now come to its sensus.
They've gone they the developer went to the environment called
applied to have it overturned. The Council back them up
in it, and it has been overturned and they shall
now build the building. How good is that? Because I
think we can all agree one thing that's better than

(32:52):
a gravel pit is an actual building that people can
live in. Right, Todd McLay, Trade Minister is going to
be with us after five o'clock and then we'll go
to New South Wales. They're going to gloat about nicking
our cops. News talks that be.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Skill tell you where you can go, questions, answers, facts analysis,
The drive show you trust for the full picture. Heather
Dupers on Drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected.

(33:32):
News talks at be.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Good afternoon and something of a shock today we have
been slapped with a fifteen percent tariff, up from the
ten percent we were expecting the Trump administration administration to
hit us with. Meanwhile, Ozzie has still managed to stay
on ten percent. Todd McLay is our trade minister and
with us. Hey Todd, Hey, Heather, what happened? Did we
do something wrong?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Well, no, we didn't.

Speaker 11 (33:53):
I think it's just a very blunt formula that the
US president, President Trump has used. He's asked for a
list of all the country that they have a trade
deficit with, Ie, we sell them marginally more than we
buy from them, and he slapped fifteen percent or more
on those sorts of countries. Interestingly, Australia buys a lot
more from the US than they sell them and even

(34:14):
they got that ten percent last time. So it is
disappointing and challenging for some of our exporters, but there's
still opportunities in that market. All bit terariff rates are
not good for trade.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, were you guys too relaxed about this? I mean,
could you have tried to do something like the Aussies
did lifting the beef band, something like the South Koreans
did offering to buy huge amounts of allergy.

Speaker 11 (34:35):
Well, no, South Korea has a fifteen percent as well
from twenty five country. Yeah, but it's still fifteen percent
as opposed to as opposed to others, so they've got
to deal there. There's been a lot of engagement. I
think you've seen Winston Peter's up in the US. I've
met with my counterpart a lot. Our officials have been
talking a lot, and you know, we've been working through this.
But ultimately, there are countries there that actually have been

(34:58):
engaging and negotiating in the same things happened to them.
I think it is just a blunt formula. You know,
the President has been saying for a number of weeks,
you know, he's going to be lowering the bottom tariff rate,
and he has done that. Although you are right, there's
a couple of countries that, it seems haven't had that
happen to them. We I've put in a request for
anos in core with my counterpart to be raising some

(35:20):
of these challenges and concerns and ask what we do
from here, because we would like to get that tariff
rate back down. But ultimately, I think what happens is
the President of America makes decisions and their system follows.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Are you saying there are a couple of countries who
you would have expected to see go up to fifteen
percent and that hasn't happened.

Speaker 11 (35:38):
No, I'm saying there are some countries that have negotiatd
have got deals that have been on fifteen percent, and
again it's just those gone down to ten.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (35:48):
No, nobody's gone down to ten that I'm aware, unless
it had already been has already been announced. No, No,
what I'm saying the other way around, there are countries
that when it goes in and got deals and they
still face ten percent as we do. And again it's
just based upon where or aren't you buyo sell more
from the US. Our trade deficit with them as about
five hundred million US dollars, and you know that in

(36:08):
the scheme of things of their economy. It's just not
significant at all. It's not that long ago. Actually, they
had a very big trade surplus against US. And will
again quite certain you and others are looking to buy
stuff and so this stuff swings around a little bit.
That's the case we'll be making. But we'll be saying, look,
this is unreason what it's unfair. We didn't like the
ten percent this is going to be harmful for US
consumers as well. The price gets passed on largely, and

(36:32):
you know we're making that case very very quickly.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
God how much trouble in particular are our beef exporters
in Well, that's a very interesting one.

Speaker 11 (36:39):
The US doesn't have enough beef and and they must
import because they don't produce enough of their own. So
Australia does have a lower tariff rate than we do.
But if you go back before the first announcement of
the ten percent, Australia was at zero because they have
a free trade agreement. So in the past in other markets.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I don't know that any of this is important because
because what we've got right now is Australia ten percent,
Uruguay ten percent, Argentina ten percent. Big beef exporters write
us on fifteen percent. Who's going to buy ours when
they can buy the beef from those countries and it's
good stuff.

Speaker 11 (37:12):
Well, well, I guess the point that I'm making is
previously we've either been at the same or we have had,
you know, better at access with that market, and they
still do. The thing that I'm told about our beef exports,
Number one is that the majority of exports has been
able to pass that ten percent on. They'll need to
look at what that means with their contract and some
of the have said to me they'll be able to
absorb the extra five percent so they can still be
in that market. And the reason for that is actually,

(37:35):
you know, are very efficient producer and they need you buy.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
God, if you compare ourselves to those three countries, we're
at a disadvantage now, aren't we.

Speaker 11 (37:43):
Like I said, no question, Well the answer is no
question at all. But we have been against Australia as
a disadvantage for tour before and we've also increased our
access to that market to export. So sorry, I'm not
trying to paint the picture that this is good news.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's not.

Speaker 11 (37:55):
But our exports are very good in the nimble and
I do think that the beef market, although it's going
to be challenging and need to be worked through, they're
still going to be good access and there for us.
We'll be talking about that though with the EU with
the US, because it doesn't actually make sense when you
need product from around the world, but somebody who's a
good trading nation has very very low tariffs against your exporters.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
You know that you are putting this out against them.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Okay, mate, listen, good luck with it and thanks very
much for talking to us. That's Todd McLay Trade Minister, Heather.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Do for see Allen.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
This next story might wind you up a little bit.
The New South Wales Police Force is celebrating today because
twenty one experienced cops that they've poached to graduating, and
seven of those officers were stolen from New Zealand. The
New South Wales Police Minister is Yasmin Katle Yasmin. Good
to talk to you again.

Speaker 17 (38:35):
Oh, good afternoon, Heather, and good afternoon to your listeners.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Now, yesman, I know you want to wind us up,
but I'm going to say to you that this was
a flop because you only got seven.

Speaker 17 (38:43):
Ah yes, but there'll be more to come. We've had
more than one hundred applications for our professional mobility program
and those over the ditch are very very keen to
come over here and be part of the best police
force in the country and indeed probably in the world,
the New South Wales Police Force.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
How many of those one hundred are you actually going
to end up taking?

Speaker 17 (39:03):
Well, look, we had a third of today's at station
came from New Zealand and I met all of them
this morning, very excited to be here, be part of
what is the third largest police force in the world.
So you know, their opportunities are just endless, and they're
very happy to have attested and be part of that.
They enjoyed their training and they're looking forward to going
out to where they've been placed. Right around New South Wales.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I see you are poaching, as you say, obviously from US,
but also from other states. Looks to me like a
few of the other states are getting annoyed at you guys,
are they?

Speaker 17 (39:33):
Oh yeah, look, we're shameless. We make no apology for
poaching or any police from anywhere. I mean, you know,
if you want to be part of the best police
force and you come to New South Wales, the opportunities
there are limitless.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
You know.

Speaker 17 (39:45):
We've got that state of origin over here, as you
well know, heather between Queensland and New South Wales, and
looks like we're creating with a few other borders now
and indeed also across the ditch.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
I'll tell you what though, what I find fascinating is
that regardless of all of these efforts by yourselves. You're
still facing shortages which we are facing, which apparently everybody's facing.
What's going on that we are losing cops from our
respective police forces.

Speaker 17 (40:10):
Yeah, look, I don't think it's just police though. To
be fair, we've got nearly record employment here in Australia,
so we're competing against every other industry, just as you
would be, and as is happening globally. So we're just
having to make, you know, incentivize people coming into the
New South Wales Police Force and making it very attractive

(40:31):
for them. We did give them a historic pay rise
in New South Wales last year, which now they're the
best paid police in this country, which was very significant
because their wages were going backward under the previous government
and so by giving them the pay rise was critically
important for it as a retention piece, and we're seeing

(40:51):
that we're seeing some green shoots from that already they're
not leaving as much as they were. But this mobility program,
in all seriousness, it really is important. The skills that
some of the people there today are bringing with them.
You know, you have to be in the force for
ten fifteen years and they're coming over able to enter
the New South Wales Police Force at that level. Now,

(41:12):
that didn't happen eighteen months ago. Well actually even blessed
that it twelve months ago. You actually had to start
as a probationary constable again. So these are the sorts
of innovative ideas that we've introduced to encourage those from
anywhere to come to New South Wales. But we've also
done some structural change internally as well, so they are
promoted earlier now and those sorts of things like you

(41:36):
have to have a really attractive offer and then you
have to make sure that you retain them and you
have to look after them. We've also set up a
health and well being unit to look after their welfare.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Brilliant stuff. Yesman, thanks so much for talking to us.
I'm sure we'll be talking to you again. I'm sure
you'll be frothing for that opportunity. Yesman, Katley, New South
Wales Police Minister. Right, let's deal with Shorty next quarter
past hither. I hate losing to the Aussies, but that
New South Wales Police Minister is running rings around us.
She's pretty great. A eighteen past five Shortland Street is saved.

(42:09):
You'll be able to listen to this a little bit more.
It's been announced the show is back next year, saved
yet again by taxpayers. Yep, we're stumping out bar cash,
this time two point five million dollars from New Zealand
on Air.

Speaker 15 (42:19):
Now.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
Cam Harland is the CEO of NZ on air, Hi Camp.

Speaker 20 (42:23):
How are you. Heare lovely to speak to you again.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
It's great to talk to you, and especially in these
you know, in these circumstances, this is obviously great news.
But what's happened here tough negotiation or something.

Speaker 20 (42:35):
I wouldn't say it's tough negotiation in all honesty, I
guess on the one side, it's a little disappointing that
Shortland Street hasn't yet got to a point where it's
back to being commercially sustainable. I think, as you know,
we funded it last year and we were hoping that
that would be a transitional period for TVNZ and SPP

(42:55):
to kind of work out how they might get the
show back to a sort of a commercially sustainable face.
I think the truth of the matter is the you know,
the economic environment for ad funded media has not got
any better, and so we saw Shortland Street come back
into the most recent round and we have we have
agreed to fund it for two and a half mil.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Okay, do you think that what is going on with
Shorty Street is are they a victim of what's going
on with media in general or is it a Shortland
Street problem that will never be fixed.

Speaker 20 (43:30):
To be honest with you, I think it's the former.
What we're seeing with Shortland Street is definitely audiences engaging
with it. It's still a very very popular show. What
we're seeing is increasing numbers of especially young people, which
is a hard to reach audience for us. So that's
another reason why it stacks up as far as our
funds are concerned. They are engaging with it on demand.

(43:53):
And what we're seeing with most of the media companies
out there is it their linear, their linear broadcast or
there you know, in the case of newspapers, it's the
print is where most of the money is. The digital
space is where the audiences are moving to, but are
sort of trying to catch up in terms of monetizing
those audiences.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
YEP.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
So basically you would expect that once TVNZ figures out
how to get money out of audiences for going online,
this should be okay, and they shouldn't need any more
of your money.

Speaker 20 (44:24):
That is absolutely the hope. As I say, though, I
mean the reality is this show for us does stack up.
It delivers a really significant, meaningful audience, and it delivers
on a sort of a cultural element as well. It
does reflect the evolving faces of modern New Zealand, and
that's kind of what we're here for. But an answer
to your question, I think TVZ and SPP would both

(44:48):
say that they are also hoping that they can work
out a way to get the show back to being
commercially sustainable.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I think we all are certain stop costing us money.
Thank you, Cam appreciated. Cam Harland ends it on a
CEO tell you what? Can I just say this? How
refreshing to have somebody come on and just tell us
what happened and how they feel about it. Isn't that wonderful?
It's quite nice, isn't it? For a change?

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Five to twenty one informed inside into today's issues. It's
Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand. Let's get
connected news talks.

Speaker 9 (45:20):
That'd be Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
The re short industry has had an amazing run, but
nothing last forever. Stop dragging out this demise just give
it the bullet. Lord. That's from Jeremy five twenty five.
We'll talk about the bullet in a minute. Five twenty four. Now,
I feel like we've got off on the wrong foot
with the FBI office in Wellington. What do you think
I mean? This assumes obviously that they actually set up
a proper office and don't just send us a couple

(45:42):
of donut eaters who put their feet up on the
desk and say I work for the FBI and Wellington.
Assuming that's not the case, I actually think we should
be grateful for this, rather than just stressing out like
we do always about what China is going to do.
In response, China not going to do anything about this.
They never do. They say a lot of words, they
make us know that, you know, make sure we know
that they are angry about something, and then nothing ever
happens because the truth is, they still need us to

(46:04):
be their friend. So perhaps we can stop imagining dragons
every time China's embassy puts out a statement angry at us.
On the contrary, if as I said, this office really
is a functioning office, then isn't this what we actually
want right now? Because we have a significant and growing
problem with serious organized a serious organized crime. We have
more meth heading our shores than ever before. We have
drugs coming to the Pacific and creating problems like we've

(46:25):
never had before that ultimately becomes our problem. We have
much more serious criminals setting up here after being deported
as five ozho ones from Australia than ever before. So surely,
given that we are increasingly being hit by global drug traders,
we should welcome global police enforcement efforts. Having the FBI
here to work with is surely a good thing. There

(46:46):
is always a chance, of course, I mean I'm not
super naive. There's always a chance that none of this
is really about crime fighting, and that's a front. And
it's actually as cash Battel said about countering China, in
which case has anything really changed, Because we're already countering
an't we were already in five Eyes. That's anti China.
We're already being considered for aucust that's anti China. We're
already clearly buying military year to be able to work

(47:09):
with Australia and withstanding China. So either way, it's you know,
not a bad thing. It's either worst case, no change
at all, or best case it helps us fight the
global bad guys. It seems to me like this is
nothing to be afraid of, in everything to be grateful
for ever Duplessyl and the bullet right, Oprah Winfrey, Jacinda
r Dern and Karmala Harris are going to be hunting

(47:31):
rabbits in the South Island because they're ferrets. Ay, there
is a guy called Jim Curry who's been doing is
always rather doing some pest control operation thing in Lowers Shotover,
and he has named his ferrets Jacinda, Oprah and Carmela.
And the more the more I've looked into this, the

(47:51):
more intrigued Dian because it turns out there's also a
Hillary Clinton. There's a R Kelly, a P. Diddy, and
a Drake and also a Joe Biden. Now I have
spent the afternoon trying to figure out where the gym
is a lefty or a righty because I don't feel
like you call your pet Ferreit just send it as
a compliment, do you. But then I say that as
somebody who doesn't like a ferret, but he likes a ferret.

(48:13):
He's got a bunch of ferrets. He's the owner of ferrets,
so maybe if you own ferrets and like ferrets, then
you do call then it's a compliment to call it.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
But Heather, if we go with that approach, then that
means he likes R. Kelly and P. Diddy, which I
think is highly unlikely.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
So he might be a fan of he might be
a fan of hip hop. I mean, Drake's done that
go wrong and there's a Drake there.

Speaker 7 (48:33):
Yeah, but there's all that stuff with the Kendrick feud
though those three together are very suspicious, So I think
I think we might be leaning towards the right wing.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
You think he's a writing he's a writer who's called
his ferrets. Karmela, Hillary and Noprah just send it to
punish them anyway. They're going after the rats. It's going
to be really fun to watch. Keep an eye on
that sports huddle, next.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
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Speaker 21 (49:14):
Feather.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
It's illegal to keep ferrets as pets in New Zealand.
If they're not really well, would I call them ferrets
like when I call them pets? They're more like the
tools of the trade for these guys. They they go
out and the hunt the rats, So maybe maybe calling
them pets in this instance is not fair. But also
it's quite interesting, isn't it. It's quite a bizarre way
to go out and hunt the rats because all the rabbits,
because we tried this the other time and then we

(49:36):
had a problem with the ferrets, didn't we at least
these guys apparently come home. Stephen Jacoby, by the way,
Stephen Jacoby is a former trade negotiator who thinks that
we're quite stuffed with this fifteen percent tariff. He's with
us after six o'clock to explain it. You remember the
pay equity claim, geeze, that feels like a long time
ago now, But remember how that that came out of
nowhere and how we were all surprised by it because

(49:57):
nobody had wind of it. Well, there are some OYA
doc Official Information Act documents that now reveal how on
earth a government managed to keep it a secret this long,
but before they actually got it out, because a fair
amount of work went into it first, but nothing leaked.
And it was because what they were doing was they
were removing digital access to cabinet papers, so that you know,
senior private secretaries and ministerial advisers and just you know

(50:18):
the old the people working in various ministerial offices couldn't
get their hands on it, couldn't see what was going on,
got no wind of it at all. They would hard copy,
they would hand deliver hard copies to minister's offices. These
are the ministers that needed to know about it. And
also they even had a code name for it, which
was Project ten. Twenty four away from.

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Speaker 8 (50:43):
For you.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
From twenty points down. The Mulus come back and steal it.
A insurance head aid.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
In part there is a change in economic and netball
New Zealand is investing in this, but we actually feel
it's right in the direction we're hitting the vision that
we have that Kiwis can see our game.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
As a kid, I obviously didn't think this opportunity would
ever be there, and when the phoenix kind of came
to light a few years ago, I said to my
mum that that was a dream of mine to be
able to come back and play professionally.

Speaker 17 (51:19):
So it's really exciting.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Sports tittle this evening Evening, Levina Goods sports journalist and
Nicky Star a sports journalist as well. Ladies.

Speaker 13 (51:25):
Hello, Hi kyodak yioda waity tour tonight. Good to speak
to you, lady.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Thank you for the compliment, Levina. Now Netbull and the
TV and Z deal, Levina, are we watching the end
of the sport?

Speaker 13 (51:38):
I think it's too early to say that. I mean
Netbulle New Zealand had dilemma. They had to choose between
no coverage after Sky said we're not going to do
it anymore because we've had lower ratings, or they actually
had to pay to stay visible on TV and Z,
so they needed to make a choice and they were
forced to make it. The thing is Netbourne New Zealand
is paying TV and ZED for the coverage instead of

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receiving right seas, which is kind of unheard of. Back
in the day when I covered the net Ball, before
the wrinkles and the gray hair came about, there was
a joint competition between Australia and New Zealand and it
built drama and player development and every single service provider
wanted to put it on their platform. And it's not
the case at the moment, so a decision had to

(52:21):
be made and they've done it and the questions need
to be asked. I guess we'll play as salaries we can't.
We'll players want to earn money overseas in Australia, in
England and then come back and return for the ferns.
We won't know at this stage, but they had no
choice either. Sky said no and they said we want
it on free to wear, so we'll pay to get
it on free to wear rather than receive the funds.

(52:43):
And I guess it's just watched this space at this stage.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Looky, how do they get themselves back? I mean, if
we accept that the mistake starts with pulling out of
the Trans Tasman League, how do you get back from that?
How do you get people watching this game again?

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (52:55):
Well, I think Levina made a very good point. When
it was Australia and New Zealand, it was a top
quo see competition and yeah you definitely got eyeballs on
it and the you know, financial.

Speaker 19 (53:05):
Rewards were there.

Speaker 8 (53:06):
I think it is a red flag for New Zealand's
netball and they're probably putting on a pretty brave face,
right now how they get back from it? Well, I
guess the problem is we don't exactly know what the
deal is with TV and Z. You know, they might
be paying a right fee. They might be the revenue they're.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Not they're not paying a right spee. Yeah, they're not
paying a right s fee. And what they're doing is
that so Netbull pays the production costs and then TVNZ
just basically there may be some revenue sharing that happens.
We don't know for sure what's going on there, but
either way, I mean, this is this is it's not good.
A huge departure from the heyday, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (53:42):
Yeah, it certainly is. And yes you might see some
fallout with players, as you say, chasing the dollar overseas,
but they had no choice. They had to remain visible,
they had to keep that exposure there, and they've got
to keep their sponsors happy. How are you going to
do that if you're not broadcasting the product? So, yeah,
it's going to be interesting.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
So are we watching the desk? What do you think, Nikki?

Speaker 13 (54:03):
My big is a decline? I thure I actually do
think it is a decline, But I guess you can
maybe look overseas and look what Channel nine Australia have
done with the NLW free to wear or even the
Big Bat, Like, if you're going to go free to wear,
then let's let's create some heroes and let's spend hits

(54:23):
of money on marketing and draw on that grassroots netball,
support your local players, you know, because it's a great game.
Like we just watched the final. It was a great match.
The final was fantastic and we've seen what freeda air
has done for cricket in this country as well. So
let's kind of push the marketing that way and say
this is our sport. We owner, we're keeping it here,

(54:43):
let's support it. But it'll take some investment in marketing
and it doesn't sound like there's a lot of money
for that.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Yeah, and maybe the free to air is the clawback
that they need.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Listen, Nikki, we've got this thing where school Sport New
Zealand has decided a hard band on the year four
teens is necessary. Is that too inflexible or do you
like it?

Speaker 15 (55:02):
Well?

Speaker 8 (55:03):
I don't think it should be a blanket ban. In essence,
I do agree that year fourteens shouldn't really be coming
back and taking the spot of a year thirteen who's
trying to play in their age group cohort. I think
that that's you know, unfair, and also you get the
physical advantages of a bigger person, of stacking the teams
all of that. So I think they're hitting in the
right direction. What I think they do need to do, though,

(55:24):
is have exceptions case by case, you know, if it's
a genuine health reason or if they're academic reasons, and
you know, view it each school on those cases, and
maybe you could have a middle ground where you say, okay,
well you have an age limit, so they have to
be under nineteen at the start of the year, and
you're only allowed to pertem and only kids returning for
educational reasons. So I think if you did that that

(55:46):
would sort of mitigate some of those unfair factors.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Yeah, that sounds perfectly reasonable, does it to you, Levina?

Speaker 13 (55:53):
Ah, I'm actually thinking it doesn't seem there that they
can return. I don't like the idea of using it
as an incentives to return to school. They're for sure, like,
for sure, there are some kids who genuinely need to
return to a fourteenth year of school that you know,
I play social sport and maybe focus more on the academia.
I'm a fan of once you've left that year thirteen.

(56:14):
It's not fair because I kind of think there's lots
of sports that will be saying, hey, come back to
school and let's see if we can win a national
school sport competition. So I'm all for the band.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
What about Levina, If you have a kid who's been
promoted up because they're a smart kid, right, so they're
actually year twelve playing in year thirteen, can they come
back and do year thirteen with their own age group.

Speaker 13 (56:35):
Yeah, that's a good question. I think that is kind
of one of the dilemmas of the process, I guess,
And it's really good to have those smart kids. But
I think in terms of the way this band has
been interpreted that there's plenty, plenty of examples of schools
that are bringing kids back at eighteen nineteen and kind
of tempting them with the fact that they can potentially

(56:55):
play a senior sports role, and it's not fair on
those kids that are smaller, younger, not a year older.
So yeah, I guess there has to be a line.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah, Okay, we'll take a break, come back to you guys.
It's seventeen away from.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
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Speaker 3 (57:13):
Right, you're back with the sports Huddle, Nicky Styrus and
Levina good Nikki. I'll tell you what I've been puzzling
over this week.

Speaker 9 (57:18):
Right.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I was listened to Kevin Putt who was on with Hosking,
and they were talking about that bash up that happened
at the Auckland Grammar game, and he said, the reason
this kind of stuff happens is because we in the
media and so on complain about the refs in professional games,
and so the people on the sideline at Auckland Grammar
think it's okay. What do you think?

Speaker 8 (57:36):
Yeah, I actually heard him say that, and yeah he's
not one to minces Max's words. Look, I think elite
behavior basically sets the tone. And if you see a
lot of ref blaming becoming sort of a default, and
we do see that a lot. If you see it
in press conferences and then it's played out through social media,
that inevitably trickles down into the sort of community level.

(57:58):
So I think that what actually ends up happening as
it's normalizing this sort of ref blaming culture.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Sometimes the reefs are to blame like often yeah, of course,
but but.

Speaker 8 (58:08):
Ref is human and you know they're given a job
to do. They're not robots, they're not perfect.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I think you know, NICKI, if Boden Barrett was playing
a terrible game, we would blame them and would say
swap them out for day though, wouldn't we?

Speaker 19 (58:18):
So why can't we Boden?

Speaker 8 (58:21):
Of course we can, of course we can, but it
has to be in a controlled way. And things are
getting out of control, and I think that you you
perhaps need to just have the right sort of forum
as to how you fix it. So you might say, well,
look there's a postmatch media ban on ref's comments so
that it can't be played out there, or you know,
there might be slightly stricter band for reef abuse so

(58:43):
that you don't see people sort of socially out of control.
But no, I agree you do. You definitely have to
be able to have a discussion. It just needs to
be a controlled discussion.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
What do you reckon, Leavina?

Speaker 13 (58:53):
I'll tell you what was a controlled discussion. I was
in Australia last week with the Lines Wallabies and there
was a horrendous reference decision, and this is a professional
referee paid loads of money to understand the concept of
the rules and should be standing up to expectation. My issue,
I guess is school kids are rugby or netball or
hockey or sport, and you've got these volunteers who are

(59:16):
rests and they're parts of the community, and people give
them a hard time all the time. So if you
get paid for it even hits the money and you
make a wrong decision, I say, lift by this or
die by the sword. If you're a volunteer locally and
you're doing something for the sporting community, give it a break.

Speaker 8 (59:32):
Parents, let them be Yeah, but I mean, Levini, you
see it in the NRL all the time. There's horrendous
reffing decisions and bunker decisions. And then what do they
do at the end of it. Oh, they go to
the to the to the man at the topic. His
name escapes me at the moment, and they come back
and go, yes, we agree that riff got it wrong
and there's no consequences. So then you go, well, you know,

(59:52):
what do you do there? Because that is so frustrating
for a sport, you know, fanatic.

Speaker 13 (59:57):
Yeah, it's frustrating. You see it all the time in
rugby league and the Bunker when it was just introduced
years ago and it was worth millions of dollars, got
it wrong, wrong and wrong again. But okay, what we're
all good refs at home, aren't we. We're great rich.

Speaker 8 (01:00:09):
Bread tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Yeah, I'm surprised, Levina. I'm surprised you thought that reef
got it wrong and I thought the reef got it right.
I thought, ah, here we go a bit of common sense.

Speaker 13 (01:00:17):
No, yeah, I don't know. I think I've seen that
about fifteen thousand times and there has been a penalty awarded.
But anyway, in the end, in the end, the lines
played better than the Wallabies. You bow your hat to that.
But when it comes to a Rugby World Cup final
and the All Blacks don't win and it's because of
referees decision as well, you start to ask a few questions.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Ever, listen, Levina, I know that you love the old NRL.
So Jason pine reckons this is a season defining game
for the Warriors tonight.

Speaker 13 (01:00:43):
What do you think I'm so with jas on this one.
I mean, it's six weeks from the playoffs and tonight
the Warriors are playing without the captain. There's no weight Egan,
no Harris Tavita.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
But if the.

Speaker 13 (01:00:56):
Warriors lose this week and they lose next week against
the number two Bulldogs playing amazingly, and the Panthers win
the next two, the Warriors are out of the top four.
So everyone's saying one game at a time, we're fine,
We're fine, but you won't win a premiership in the
NRL unless you are in the top four. I watched
the game against the Titans last week and that they
were seventeenth in the competition. They were down by twelve

(01:01:17):
and they capitalized on some really poor defensive efforts. But
it was the match before against the Knights where I
thought the Warriors were even worse and they won on
the hooter. So the Dolphins are a really good attacking side.
They've got this amazing half back a Tour that just
orchestrates everything. They attack everything down the left and I
think the Warriors really need to make sure that their
defense is strong. Defense will win the game tonight. I

(01:01:40):
don't know if they've got it, but I hope they do.
Because Heather and Nikki there are several sides in this
competition at the moment playing better than the Warriors, including
the Storm, the Raiders, the Panthers, Dogs, the Broncos.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Yeah, okay, so lifty game is based out of the message.

Speaker 8 (01:01:54):
Now tonight they lose tonight. I think they're out of
the top four.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
Them, which is what counts for me. NICKI do you
want Bev who is now going to be coaching the
Phoenix to cheap for us?

Speaker 19 (01:02:11):
Loaded question?

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Jome Canada against us? It's only fair, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (01:02:18):
Look I look, all I can say is sometimes things
work out in funny ways, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
So?

Speaker 8 (01:02:25):
Jrome Gate has actually worked in our favor? And Craichi
ev Priestman, you know what a sensationally gifted coach, and
you know her track record is right there for all
of us to witness. And you know, now we're the
beneficiaries of that. You know, it might be an interesting circumstances,
but we've got her. And what we've got now is
we've got connections to you know, top class players, and

(01:02:47):
she has those connections and they will come back and
they will play for her, just like C. J.

Speaker 19 (01:02:51):
Bott is doing.

Speaker 8 (01:02:52):
And I think that it's fantastic for the Phoenix, and
I'm really looking forward to watching this one play out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Yeah, I think I am too. Hey, guys, thank you
so much. Really, she had an enjoy a week in
a sport. Lavina Good and Nicky Staris both sports Journalistshather,
I agree with you. The ref got it right. Endless
forensic examination of players ruining the game. Nine away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Heather, New World needs to be brought into line again.
You need to check out the Smeg casserole dishes sold
out and people are putting them on trade me Spotlight
have a look alike, sixty dollars better quality, Alvin, thank you.
You know there's nothing I love more than a supermarket bargain. Well,
there's the ones where you get the little stickers. But
you cannot talk to me about the New World ones
because my New World burned down, so I don't have

(01:03:42):
any of this available to me. I am stuck, unfortunately
getting those stupid little Disney discs from from I know
it's a first world problem and I don't want to Laby.
I don't want to lump you with my isscules, but
I get those those Disney discs. And I came in
with a pack of about seven hundred thousand tonight and
I gave him to Ben from Sport. I said to him,

(01:04:04):
here you go for your children. My children don't need
this stuff because I don't need cleaning up after them. Anyway.
Speaking of my children, do you know why I wasn't
here yesterday. Let me tell you why I wasn't here yesterday.
I meant to be here yesterday. So what happened was
baby baby Mackay six months old. She had a bit
of a cold. This story gets a lot better than this,
trust me. Starting starting week, building up. You had a
bit of a cold on Tuesday and Wednesday, and we thought, hmmm,

(01:04:27):
like you're coughing a lot. It's not sounding good, little one.
We're gonna I just said, I'm booking her into the doctor.
And her father said what he always said, which is
she's fine, doesn't need to go to the doctor. I
was like, okay, mate, just because you didn't have any
doctors in Gore in the nineteen fifties doesn't mean our
children have to grow up like that. So, you know,
with the cold, rage blasting cold, smoke cold smoke at

(01:04:47):
their faces and stuff. So anyway, she went. He took
her to the doctor said here's the money, go off.
You go then, and I was busy doing something else.
Next minute he calls me and he goes, Hi, yeah,
so we're going to Starship in an ambulance because her
oxygen levels are too low. What happened as GP had
done the little measure and they're supposed to be your
oxygen level is supposed to be one hundred and if

(01:05:08):
it's anything around about ninety two and below, they freak
out a little bit if you're a baby. So she
was sitting at ninety so they had her on like
baby oxygen. And then that's why they had to get
the aambo out because she had to stay on oxygen
when she went in the ambo. Anyway, as as always
as the case with children, the minute she got to hospital,
she was like, Hi, Tricks, Yeah, I'm fine, and she

(01:05:30):
started I'd packed them like I'd pack the bags for them,
like they were staying the night in hospital, and I
freaked out so badly. I took the day off work
then as well. I had six bottles of formula and
a chili bag. I had everything. She started smashing the mate.
She was like, give me food, give me food, give
me food. I'm hungry, laughing at the nurses. The nurse
I think Liz, the head nurse, was like, you guys
are taking the piss. Aren't you coming here? At the
moment she had a nurse's strike. We don't need this

(01:05:51):
kind of nonsense. Anyway, she came home, but I got
to come to work. We were home at four o'clock,
weren't we. We were like the show starts at four,
We're already home. She's fine, there's no problem at all.
But anyway, that is what happened. And then the little
guy who's three and a half was really jealous that
she got to ride in an ambulance. So now we

(01:06:11):
have to organize an ambulance ride. But fortunately I know
some people who know some people about ambulances, so or
we could just break something, which is I think inevitably
going to happen at some stage, not with my hands obviously. Anyway,
heither can you make Levina and Nikki the regular sport commentators?
That pretty good?

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Eh?

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
We've got actually a good run of sport commentators. Can
I just tell you this year I was telling you
about that embryo that got born this year, the one
from nineteen ninety four that was frozen and then got
used this year. The debts obviously adopted parents, right like
the parents are using someone else's embryo. The guy who's
the dad. Tim was three years old when that embryo

(01:06:49):
was frozen. How amazing is that? Scott Jacoby on the
tariffs next.

Speaker 21 (01:06:55):
Some made Tim and Middle.

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Speaker 19 (01:07:13):
Talk saidb.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Even in coming up in the next hour. So the
Taiwanese present was not a lot of President was not
allowed to stop over in New York? What was really
going on? Peter Lewis on that Barry Sober will rap
the political week that was, and Gavin Gray is with
us out of the UK at seven pass six. Now
international markets haven't wobbled too much in the wake of
the new tariffs. The AX and a few other Asian
markets dipped, but mostly by less than a percent. Stephen

(01:07:37):
Jacobe is a former trade negotiator. Hey, Stephen, Hi, Heather,
good to be with you. What's gone wrong for us?
Do you think, Oh, I.

Speaker 22 (01:07:46):
Think we're at the end on the receiving end of
a very large hammer that's coming down, and I don't
think it's probably anything to do with us. It's most
unfair and unjustified. You know, ten percent wasn't great. Fifteen
percent is a lot worse actually, and we'll have to
see what we can do to try and get out
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Why do you say it's a lot worse.

Speaker 22 (01:08:07):
Well, because it's a much more material tariff in position.
You know, ten percent was at the lower end of
the scale. You know, a five percent tariff is probably
neither here nor there. It's often taken out by exchange
rate movements. But if you're talking about fifteen percent, you're
getting into quite different territory. It's going to favor American

(01:08:30):
Americans over our you know, American producers over our ones.
And of course to the extent that other people in
the American market are getting better treatment than us, like Australia,
like Chile, that's not good either. We have to compete
with them as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
I mean, if you think about it, so the Americans
have a ten dollars steak, our steak is now what
eleven dollars fifty and an Australian steak is eleven dollars.
Is there enough in that to make a consumer change
their mind and change to a different product.

Speaker 22 (01:08:57):
Actually, in the case of the meat market the bet market,
probably not. Because the Americans eat a lot of beef
and there's a lot of you know, we've still got
lots of opportunity. And of course the South Americans are
all being charged even more, except Chile, but they're not
a big exporter of beef to the United States. So yeah,
a lot of it depends on, you know, the market

(01:09:18):
segment that you're in. But remember out this is it
for US is now a fifteen percent additional tariff. So
to the extent that there's a tariff existing already in
the United States, like fifteen percent for butter, we're now
paying thirty percent.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Ah okay, So this this has the potential to be
quite bad, then doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Oh? I think it does.

Speaker 22 (01:09:38):
And you know, without wanting to you know, over dramatize,
we have to see how it all works out. We
know that a lot of exporter has been sharing the
tariff burden with the importer. I mean, if the if
they can pass it onto the consumer, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Well, not for the consumers, but better for us. Prices
go up in the United States, it's not so good
for Americans.

Speaker 22 (01:09:58):
If we have to share it, well, that's a bit
of pain, But if we have to bear it, that's
quite a lot of pain.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Do you think, Stephen, that we should have changed the
approach that we took, or perhaps we took the wrong approach.
I mean, it seemed to be that we were pretty
relaxed about it, or putting our head below the parapet
maybe a combination of both. Should we have done what
Albanesi did and made concessions or what South Korea did
and offered to buy things.

Speaker 22 (01:10:20):
Well, of course South Korea did that, and it's still
got a fifteen percent tariff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
But it's down from twenty five, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Down twenty five? Yeah? I suppose so.

Speaker 22 (01:10:29):
But look, I don't think there's much more we could
have done. We just don't have enough to offer the
United States. What are we offering right now? We're offering
them already a market where we charge very very low tariffs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:10:40):
In the case of Australia, of course they're a free
trade partner with the United States, they have a free
trade agreement. It's not worth much these days, but the
United States has, you know, a surplus with them, we
have a small deficit, So I mean, you know, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Sure there's a lot that we could have done. The
problem is we're already offering.

Speaker 22 (01:10:59):
To the United States it's very advantage advantageous market access
conditions without asking for anything in return.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
So I just don't think there was a lot to
be negotiated myself.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
What about Okay, so Todd mcclay's going to go to
them now and he's going to say to them, where
about we will get ourselves into surplus for you because
we're going to buy a bunch of Boeings. Will that
change their mind?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Well?

Speaker 22 (01:11:20):
Who knows when these settings are going to be evaluated,
you know, And we don't even know if this is
the last word on all of this. The difficulty with
going back to the United States, of course, it's going
to take a long time to do it, and a
lot of other people are going to be wanting to
do exactly the same thing. I mean, when you look
at the range of countries that are now going to
play this fifteen percent tariff, you know, New Zealand's not

(01:11:40):
quite in the same position as a lot of these
other ones, you know. And you know, we take a
country like Chile, a very fine country, but it hasn't
done a lot, you know, in terms of defense and security.
Cooperation hasn't been there at the founding of the United
Nations and all.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
These things like US. I don't really know why we
should be treated so badly. Quite frankly, fair.

Speaker 3 (01:11:59):
Points to even, thanks very much, Stephen Jacoby, former trade
negotiated twelve past.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Six ever due for c Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
So apparently we're off the road tipline already in July
it was down from June June it was six hundred
and fourteen complaints on the road Cone Tipline July two
hundred and seventeen. Good on your New Zealand good on
you because I think we've all realized this is just
bs and that thing is utterly pointless, and that's actually
wasting our time and money that could be used for

(01:12:28):
something better. Anyway, I much prefer what Chris Bishop has done,
just withhold the money from the councils Now, Apple has
reported sales and profit that have smashed market expectations in
the third quarter they earned. This is New Zealand dollars
one hundred and fifty five billion dollars in revenue. That's
up ten percent on the same time in the previous year.

(01:12:48):
Earnings per share two hundred and fifty nine. Oh what
am I talking about? Two dollars fifty nine. That topped
expectations of three of two dollars thirty six. The reason
that this happened is it's seems Apple iPhone whatever, eighteen
whatever came out and people are buying it up on like,
just snapping it up as much as they can, hoping

(01:13:09):
to get it before the tariff's kicking. So the tariff's
worked in the favor of at least one one big company.
Six thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
It's the Heather dupas Allen Drive Full Show podcast on
my Heart Radio powered by news dog ZEPPI.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
What was I just talking about? I was just talking
about how ridiculous that road cone tip line is, wasn't I?
And guess what just popped up on TVNZ, which I'm
clearly not watching because I'm talking to you, Laura. The
German told me what was on the thing has cost us,
which is pointless. Right, The whole thing is a charade.
It's pointless. It has cost US four hundred thousand dollars
for twelve months. That's the cost of a recruitment agency.

(01:13:45):
That includes the cost of a recruitment agency to hire
two stuff. But here's the thing, the government's not tracking
how many cones have been removed or dealt with. So yeah,
we're gonna talk to Nikola about that on Monday. That's sale.
She's got to kill that, doesn't she? Right now? Sixteen
past six Barry Soper, scene political correspondent, rapping the political
week that was Welcome back.

Speaker 9 (01:14:02):
Barry, Hello again Heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Do you think this FBI office is as bad as
the Greens think it is.

Speaker 9 (01:14:07):
One of the Greens would think anything's bad when it
comes to subterfuge, intellectual property, undermining the state.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
The Americans in general, that's right.

Speaker 9 (01:14:19):
Well, the FBI is simply a crime fighting organization. But
I just wonder, and it's interesting that the Americans come here.
They've been here since twenty seventeen anyway, they've had an
addendum to an office from Canberra in Wellington, so they
have had a presence here. But I just wonder whether
there would be a song and dance of China, for example,

(01:14:42):
opened their equivalent to the FBI. Is there a state
security service if they opened an office here in this country,
what would we say about that? I think we'd be
up in arms about it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
For good reason. Well, for good reason.

Speaker 9 (01:14:57):
We've got forty billion dollars worth of with China, hang on,
and we've got nine billion dollars trade with the US
and being penalized are by the USA.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
I get so bored of this equivalence. You know, there's
no equivalents, right. We share the same values as the
Americans in terms of our respect for the law and
trading nation, yes, but in terms of respect for the
law and order process. Right, So we we generally US
and the Americans take people to trial and if they're guilty,
we chuck them in jail. It's not the same in China, right,
where people just get chucked in jail for all kinds

(01:15:29):
of stuff in China and disappeared and stuff like that.

Speaker 9 (01:15:32):
So it's I understand, it's a different argument.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
That's not the same.

Speaker 9 (01:15:36):
That's you're arguing a different argument. I would say that,
you know, we've got to treat China with some respect,
but we do well, we should do as well. That's
the only point that I'm trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
I agree with you. Yeah, yeah, anyway, we'll move on.
Do you what do you think of Kwebank being partially privatized.

Speaker 9 (01:15:55):
I think it's a great thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Yeah, you know, I think that.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
You know, I've got this minnow bank, which is which
is what it is compared to the four big Australian banks,
and under capitalization has always hampered a Kiwi Bank in
operating in any sort of competition to the biggest banks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Sort of only be the start, right that it's only
five hundred million, They've got to do more than that.

Speaker 9 (01:16:17):
It definitely will be the start and the capital of
Kiwi Group Capital is the company that runs Kiwi Bank,
and it's cheered by David McLain. Now he's a former
Westpank WISPAC CEO and you've met him. I've met him
on a number of occasions. Good bloke, and you know
it would be interesting, wouldn't it, because he would have
a very good insight into the workings of Westpac obviously,

(01:16:42):
and west Pac happens to be and it has been
since nineteen eighty nine, the Government's banker. Now Kiwi Bank
would have to grow much larger if it's going to
take that role. But who knows that further down the prack,
further down the track, that a bank that is owned
by New Zealanders doing the government's business would make much

(01:17:05):
more CeNSE to me than sending profits off shore.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
To the Australian would It would be nice if they
could be big enough to do that exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:17:11):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
I bumped into a former MP on my kindy run
the other day and this person said to me that
we will not attract any better quality of board director
for the Crown Entities because we raise the value of what.

Speaker 9 (01:17:25):
Has he had any board appointments, though I know exactly
he is.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
He's on a number of boards. Okay, that's good, And
he was like, changing the value that they get paid.
It's not going to make a difference.

Speaker 9 (01:17:34):
Well, it probably when it comes to recruitment, it probably
would make it a little easier because with a go though,
isn't it most certainly is worth a goo you pay
pen out, you get monkeys. And you only have to
look at a number of boards where ethnicity, where gender balance,
where all those other issues were taken into account as

(01:17:57):
much as and board members should be based on merit,
not on what When the Labor Government was in power,
they were appointing their mates to various boards and they
didn't really have a great deal of effect as we've
seen since. So I think if we can pay them
a bit more, you may attract a bit better of
a caliber of person to serve on these boards. And

(01:18:19):
these are multimillion dollar companies.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Do you think that now that the voting rules have
gone off to select Comittee, when they come back, they'll
have changed.

Speaker 9 (01:18:28):
Well, the voting rules, Oh no, they won't. I know
we're onto the electoral reform. No, I think they'll go
through as they are. I mean, it's a government back bill,
so it'll certainly be you'll find thirteen days in advance
of an election you'll have to become enrolled. And I
think that's a good thing because what it means is

(01:18:50):
we've got enough problem with coalition governments being formed in
this country. The sooner that we can have the vote counted,
the better It'll be, not just for the coalition negotiations,
but for the public of New Zealand who went out
and voted in good faith. They know that their vote
was counted and can be counted relatively quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Right, Hey, Barry, thanks very much. Barry so for Senior
political correspondent, rapping the political week that was. By the way,
new chair has been announced for the Warehouse Group today.
It's John Journey, who has previously been a board director
but then took over as the interim CEO when they
get rid of the other one. It's done a reasonable
job actually apparently of at least appearing to turn the
Warehouse Group around. He's now going to become the chair

(01:19:33):
and he'll be replacing Joan Withers when she steps off
that position in November six twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Approaching the numbers and getting the results, it's hither due
for Cea Ellen with the Business Hour and MAZ for
Trusted Home Insurance Solutions newstalksb.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Come on, Barry. A reason the FBI are here is
because the c P are already here, which is a
fair point. Listen, I don't want to do any victim
blaming here. Well, first of all, let me not get
ahead of myself. Are you as surprised as I am
that in New Zealand's new CEO has drawn racist backlash online?
I'm genuinely really surprised by this. Right because Nicol Ravashank,

(01:20:09):
obviously of Indian descent. Apparently the Herald and arn Z
and one News all had to turn off their ability
for you to comment at the bottom of the page
and stuff like that. Whether it's on Facebook or whatever
it is, I don't really know, but they had to
turn that ability off because there were that many racist
comments coming through, which I just find unbelievable that anybody

(01:20:31):
would be that gross. But then apparently Laura and them
are telling me because I don't deal with that kind
of nonsense. I don't even have my social media, they
were saying to me, I'd only takes about three comments
per perse per post, and then they're turning it off.
But even then, so what is there nine people in
this country who thought, you know what I need, I
need to have a crack at his ethnicity. That's weird,
isn't it. That's a really weird thing to do because
you don't know, he might actually be awesome at his job,

(01:20:51):
and so what's it got to do with it? In fact,
and regardless, he might be shit at his job, but
it's still got nothing to do with it. But anyway,
I don't want a victim blame. But this is slightly
any New Zealand problem right here. Because have you met
rat Nicol since he was No, you haven't white because
in New Zealand announced the new CEO, and instead of
like trotting him out proudly and talking about how awesome

(01:21:12):
he is, they just didn't let anybody talk to them. Now,
had he gone out and talked about how awesome he
is and how great, how happy he was to have
the job, we'd all be talking about that. Not we
wouldn't have enough time to be going and having a
look at the comments and the fact that they'd been disabled.
So maybe in New Zealand wants to think about that.
Bring him out. It's ever chat, dem it sounds cool.
Twenty seven past six.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Ever do for Cee Ellen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Here's your show, Buz News.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
You'll know what that is.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
If you know what that is. Terrible news for people
who like handsome men. Because Jason Wilmore has shaved off
his beard for the first time in six years. It
is devastating some of the people in this office. And
he is apparently not a fan either.

Speaker 7 (01:21:59):
Yeah, damn it, I hate it.

Speaker 16 (01:22:01):
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Why he's done it is because because of this. Yeah,
he's shooting the next June movie and this is the
franchise which is set on the desert with Timothy Schallamy.
And in the third installment he's going to be playing
a half android, half clone version of Dunk and Idaho,
his character from the first film. And apparently you know
you don't want a beard for that.

Speaker 19 (01:22:27):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
I think he's being hard on himself because he's got
a very minus the beard, He's got a very like
Hemsworth look about him. He looks very similar to the
Hemsworth boys, and that's not ugly. I think we can
all agree. I mean, he's lost the kind of wild
rider look that he had going on, you know, but
Hemsworth look is good. Plus also, he's not gonna smell

(01:22:48):
like old Beard and sour milk, which is great.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Isn't that?

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Peter lewis out of Asia.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Next, whether it's Macro Microbe or just playing economics, it's
all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and
maz for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, Use Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Be sorry that yard.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
Is gatty.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
Gray's going to be with us in ten minutes time.
Getting load of this? Okay. There is a Footsie one
hundred company called Games Workshop, famous for coming up with Warhanner,
the tabletop game. They want to expand. They can't expand
because they've got very similar problems to the kind of
problems that we have in New Zealand. There's a bat.

(01:23:38):
There is a bat living there. They want to build
a new car park, but they can't because this bat,
called the Pippy Strail microbat, has been found on the
site and the bat is protected by law, and so
we don't know what they're going to do. Twenty four
away from seven Heather Duplessy Allen Peter Lewis Asia Business
Correspondence with US. Hello, Peter, how do your part of
the world go with Trump and his tariffs?

Speaker 19 (01:24:00):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Not too bad.

Speaker 23 (01:24:02):
I mean, if you look around the region, the two
big economies that have got confirmed deals, Japan and South Korea,
have both come out of it quite well. They've got
tariff rates of fifteen percent compared to the twenty five
percent that has been threatened, and that includes cars as well.
Now that's a big win for both those countries because

(01:24:25):
the auto sector is a very big part of their
economy and everyone else seems to be paying about twenty
five percent on cars. There are some disputes though, as
always with a Trump agreement is once you walk away,
what did you exactly agree? In Japan and Trump in
particular are disputing this five hundred and fifty billion dollar

(01:24:46):
fund that Trump has said is basically free money that's
going to be given to them. Japan says it's an
investment fund and only one percent of that is actually
going to be investment. The rest is going to be loans.
And nevertheless they gone agreement. If you look at Southeast Asia,
it's around twenty percent, Vietnam's twenty percent, Philippines nineteen percent,

(01:25:08):
Indonesia is nineteen percent as well, so not too bad
there either. The only thing is is this thing about transhipments.
In other words, products that go to America but don't
actually originate from those countries. They are believed to come
mainly from China. They're going to get taxed at forty percent.

(01:25:29):
So so far, so good, but there are three big
economies that are missing. First of all, China. Now China
had tariffs put on it at one hundred and forty
five percent, and then you may remember back a couple
of months ago in Geneva, they agreed to reduce them
down to thirty while they talked about a trade deal. Now,

(01:25:51):
that agreement ends on August the twelfth, and so far
there's been no sign or there's been no confirmation that
that agreement is going to get extended. That suspension is
going to be suspended. Further now, it's reported that China
would like it to be extended, and it's going to
be decided by Donald Trump. It seems inconceivable somehow that

(01:26:13):
he won't extend that agreement to give more time for
talks to go on. So if he doesn't get a
deal with China, that's a major negative because it would
be a huge block that's missing from these agreements. Secondly,
there is India, and this appears to have gone extraordinarily badly.

(01:26:34):
In the last couple of days, it looked like they
were working towards a deal, and then suddenly Donald Trump
announced that he was going to slap twenty five percent
tariffs on India plus a penalty as punishment for buying
weapons and oil from Russia. He didn't say what that
penalty was, although he has seemed to have indicated that

(01:26:57):
the talks are ongoing. But then on Thursday, he basically
described India as being a dead economy. He said, I
don't care what India and Russia do together. Their economies
are dead, they have the highest tariffs in the world,
and we don't do any business with India anyway. So
Indian officials are quite shocked at hearing this, and it

(01:27:19):
raises a big question mark about where do those talks
go to from here, and it really backs Mody into
a corner. The other one that was missing was Taiwan,
obviously a big economy because of semiconductors. We've heard from
the White House that that's going to be at twenty percent.
Taiwan's disappointed with that because it's higher than countries like

(01:27:42):
Japan and South Korea, and no word on what will
happen to semiconductors, which of course is their biggest export.
So when you put them all together, maybe a mixed picture,
and it really depends upon what happens with China and India.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
Why do you think, what does that The markets have
largely shrugged us off.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
I think they're being rather complacent to shrug it off.

Speaker 23 (01:28:06):
I think they're looking at this could have been worse,
and it shows maybe how far our ambitions have sunk.
Because if you go back to before Donald Trump was
elected for his second term, US tariffs were about one percent.
Now the average tariff rate is about twenty percent. But
markets are cheering because they thought it could have been

(01:28:26):
thirty or forty percent. Even so, I think they are
being extraordinarily complacent because we haven't seen what the long
term impact of this is yet. What does it mean,
for example, for inflation. You would think that all these
tarts are going to be inflationary and drive up consumer
prices in the US, although we haven't really seen that

(01:28:50):
happen so far. But that's partly because you know, a
lot of the time these tarifts have been suspended, they
haven't actually gone into effect, and that's given a chance
for export to rush products over to the US before
the tariffs take effect. And we also haven't seen the
impact on these economies either. You would think that tarots

(01:29:10):
of twenty percent are getting close to being recessionary for
some countries, particularly countries like Japan for example, and we
need to see the impact of that as well. So
we still need time to see the long term impact
of all of these tariff rates.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Good to talk to you, Peter, as always, Thank you
so much. Peter lewis our Asia Business correspondent. IF twenty
percent is close to recessionary? What does that put our
fifteen percent today? That kind of puts a bit of perspective,
isn't It's not that great?

Speaker 12 (01:29:42):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Does this surprise you? This I find? I mean, I'm happy,
but I'm surprised. There are about eleven hundred people in
this country one thousand. Well, no, it's fifteen hundred, fifteen
hundred people in this country who have portfolios on Charez's
with more than one million dollars invested. Does that surprise you?

(01:30:06):
Because I was under the impression that Chearsy's was kind
of like, oh, you know, you'd be dornt, like you're
trading a couple of hundi here and there. Maybe if
you're bit of a baller, you've got a few tens
of thousands in if you've got a million in your
Chaze's account, Why haven't you got a broker? Why are
you doing this yourself? How do you know enough to
do this? How do you trust yourself?

Speaker 9 (01:30:27):
All of this?

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
All of these questions? I have all of these questions, Well.

Speaker 7 (01:30:29):
Hang on, hither are you saying that your SkyTV shares
are not with a million dollars?

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
They were? And then some things happened. Fewer than a
hundred of these include KIW Saver. Just in case you think, oh, yeah,
but that's that'll be because you did. No, it's not.
This is just ballers putting all their money in Chares's anyway.
I mean, I'm stoked. I'm stoked for these people. I
really am. I just am wild. My mind is blown,

(01:30:58):
as you can hear it right now. You can literally
hear my mind blowing over the fact that somebody trusts
themselves enough to be investing in things anyway. They're investing
in decent things directly in companies like Tesla, Rocket Lab, Nvideo,
Infertil Zero, Meridian, Ryman, Air New Zealand's that's not a
good idea, and Fonterra is not a good idea because

(01:31:18):
you know what you've seen what happened to Air New Zealand,
the COVID and then. But anyway, regardless, well done you
and yeah pimping move sixteen away from seven everything.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
From SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour with
Heather two for c Ellen and MAS for Trusted Home
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Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Talks end be so hither What actually is our terriff
is a ten plus fifteen or is it fifteen percent?
It's fifteen percent, but it's fifteen percent. Remember on top
of water was already there. So for example, I think
by memory, our beef was getting about zero point four
percent going into the UK, So now it's fifteen point
four percent as opposed to what Australia was getting, which
is zero percent plus ten percent. Therefore they are at

(01:31:57):
ten percent, so it's significantly higher. Now is thirteen away
from seven? And Devin Gray, our UK correspondent, is with
us even in Geven either had that. So why is
this terrorist going to get out of the Slemmer?

Speaker 21 (01:32:11):
Yeah, there are reports, they haven't been confirmed by the
government that a man who has freely admitted that he
is a terrorist and has confessed to his role in
the London seventh of July bombings and September eleventh attack
could be freed from prison within days. And that's because
back in twenty fifteen in the US he was jailed
for twenty years having admitted trying to start a terrorist

(01:32:33):
training camp in Oregon. He was never tried for being
part of these other plots in London and New York. Now,
although he was originally jailed in America. He was then
transferred back here to the UK, which is where he
was born in Yorkshire and is currently undergoing a treatment
at a medical mental health institute. And it's reported that

(01:32:55):
because of the serving half your time and on good behavior,
you can be released from prison. The sort of mentality,
it's quite possible now. We believe he could be released
in a number of days. Indeed, recently in a High
Court judgment, a judge said there was evidence of an
ongoing risk, but said that although he must be subject

(01:33:16):
to what's called a notification order, he won't be given
as full sort of security check, and that is because
he's coming from a mental health institute, not a prison,
and believes that therefore he could be released in the
near future. Is the phrase the relatively near future.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
So big concern that this.

Speaker 21 (01:33:35):
Man, fifty year old Harun Aswat, who's plainly somebody that
the authorities are interested in both here and America, still
could be released in a matter of days and only
subject to this so called notification order, which means he
has to tell the police about information and keep them
up to date like where he is, foreign travel details

(01:33:56):
and vehicle registration.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Gevin this chep who's been a recent on suspicion of
the kids.

Speaker 21 (01:34:00):
Are the kids Okay, yes they are, but they were
in hospital for a check up. The details about this
are still actually rather sketchy. Heather, It's absolutely bizarre that
the seventy six year old man basically was somebody that
the police were interested in after a number of children
fell ill at a summer camp for children in Leicestershire

(01:34:21):
in the Midlands. They received a report. The police received
this report from a third party about children feeling unwell
in the lodge and the force did not attend however,
until the next day. They've come in for criticism about that.
Police said the officers went there, the children were checked over,
eight taken the hospital as a precaution. Since being discharged,
the man was arrested at a pub the evening and

(01:34:44):
remains in custody and detained on suspicion of administering poison
or a noxious thing with intent to injure, aggrieve or annoy.
We don't know what the alleged poison is. As it were,
we don't know any more details really about the incident.
But as you can imagine, if people were stunned.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
By this, hey have you heard about this bet.

Speaker 21 (01:35:05):
Yes, so yeah, I'm afraid. Here in the UK we
love our bats. They've even held up the HS two project,
the biggest infrastructure project of its kind, and they had
to create a one hundred million pound one kilometer long
bat tunnel because the new high speed railway was cutting
through woods where these bats were very very well populated.

(01:35:27):
Now we're hearing that a Footsy one hundred company that
they make the Warhammer game Games Workshop they're called, was
getting organized to build on a plot of land where
it would planned to build a temporary car park. The
sighting of a single bat, the common pipistol bat, one
of the UK smallest bat species, has been discovered on

(01:35:49):
the plot and therefore they're taying that due to legal
protection surrounding bats and their habitats, ecological protocols must be
followed before any construction can proceed. And this huge FOOTSAE
one hundred companies being told uh uh no more building
at a moment, stop what you're doing, we need to
analyze the bats.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Wow, the world goes crazy. Thank you, Gavin, appreciate it.
Gavin Grat, UK correspondent hither Off started it now, haven't I?
Heather I've had a few thousand and sheerries for Chazy's
for around two years, currently earning twenty six percent, never
gone below sixteen percent. Cheers Jim. Hither I use Chazy's,
we will be the mass that controls how shares will
be allocated in the future. Institutional investment vehicles will be obsolete.

(01:36:32):
End comms. That is how Richard signed off that text
end Comm's Nine away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
It's the Heather Too.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Have you ever wanted to eat like Princess Diana? Six
away from seven? If you've ever wanted to eat like
Princess Diana, you can now because her former personal chef,
Darren McGrady, has a YouTube channel and he's got four
hundred thousand subscribe so he's pretty popular. He knows what
he's doing. He's revealed that Die's favorite breakfast was overnight oats.

Speaker 24 (01:37:08):
It's rich in fiber and perfect for breakfast every morning.

Speaker 6 (01:37:12):
Hot.

Speaker 24 (01:37:13):
But when you actually have them cold with a little
liquid over them, and they're steeped overnight, and then you
add all these ingredients there too, it just takes them
to the next level, and all these individual nutrients going
into the breakfast dish make it amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
She discovered overnight oats back in the nineties before they
were cool, and she first had the dish on a
trip to Switzerland, back when it was called birch Amusley
and mcgrady's oats are made from oats, orange juice, Greek yogurt,
raw honey, cinnamon, lemon juice, fresh blueberries, toasted walnuts.

Speaker 24 (01:37:48):
Now I have to admit that when I was making
this it comes in the Palace for Princess Diana. It
was so good I actually used to double the recipe
so that the chef got it for breakfast too.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
He's written a cookbook it's called Eating Royally Recipes and
Remembrances from a Palace Kitchen. And if you want to
don't buy it for yourself, get somebody else to buy
it for your one hundred and eighty five dollars on Amazon.
Can I tell you something I make a habit. It
would appear of finding ways to make myself look stupid
on the radio, which is fine. I mean most people

(01:38:21):
just look stupid in front of few people. I look
stupid in front of like one hundred thousand plus people.
That's okay, I'm okay with it. You already know it
by now as I do it all the time. I
did not know until today that overnight Oats is Bircher Musley.
That's what I didn't know. I call it Burcher musically,
and I love Bircher Musley. And all the people have
talked about the overnight Oats and I was like, I've
no idea what you're talking about. It sounds disgusting because

(01:38:43):
oats is disgusting and porridge is disgusting, and I thought
that's what they're doing. But now for today, at the
age of geez, I'm nearly forty one, I've just figured
out that overnight Oats is Bircher music and it's yumious.

Speaker 19 (01:38:55):
Ends.

Speaker 7 (01:38:57):
I tell you what, if I lived in Kensington Palace,
I would be having a fulling breakfast every morning and
I would be the size of a house.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
I would You would not. You would not because I
have watched you eat and you do not put on weight.
You have TOPHI I have what top, what's to thin? Outside?

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Fat?

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Inside?

Speaker 7 (01:39:11):
Yeah, you're right, so I went to my inside would
have just collapsed now.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
And inside the fat. But you still look like like
a like a model.

Speaker 7 (01:39:18):
Oh thank you that we're all very good looking on
this show. You can't see us obviously not giving in
by Rudimental to play us out tonight. Rudimental are going
to be headlining the Currents Festival in Topor at the
end of December. It will be on December twenty eighth.
It will be them, Lime, Cordy l Chaos and the
CBD and Chromeo are the big games there. Seconds go
on sale next week.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
You didn't want to end with Katie Perry.

Speaker 7 (01:39:39):
No, I think we've ended with Katy Perry enough for
me this year, to.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Be honest, because you know why, because well, she was
on the date with Justin the other day and then
Justin went to her show and he was in the
front row.

Speaker 7 (01:39:50):
Oh confirmed, and he took his daughter. Well unless that
maybe maybe they're not dating. Maybe he just took her
out for dinner so he could get a front row seat.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
It's just true. Do Yeah, I just feel like Justin Justin.
I feel like Justin is one of those guys. If
you see a woman with Justin you need to know, Yeah,
they've been there, They've done it, They've done it. I
think Katie and haven't done it anyway. See you on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:40:43):
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