Full Show Podcast: 02 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
Dupicy elland Drive with One New Zealand to coverage like
no one else News doorgsav.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome to the show coming up today. David Seymour on
the Paris Agreement to luxury Realist, that agent who reckons
that his phone has been ringing off the hook from
foreign investors, and Amazon New Zealand's country manager on investing
more than a seven and a half billion dollars into
the country. Heather Dupicy Ellen, Oh, I have waited a
long time for this, and the day has come. Finally

(00:33):
we have a serious party who has spent time thinking
about it and is now seriously suggesting that New Zealand
should pull out of the Paris Climate Agreement. Now, that
was what came from that ACT party announcement that I
told you would be coming today that you needed to
keep an eye out for. ACT says Paris isn't working
for New Zealand, says we should push for the agreement
to be reformed and if it isn't reformed, then we

(00:55):
should pull out of it. It isn't working. ACT says
because it's pushing up our food prices, it's pushing up
our power prices. It's forcing the farmers off the land
to make way for trees. And you can add to
that list something that we've seen a lot of this
winter and last winter. It is shutting down industry because
of those high power prices. Now, there will be a
lot of people who hear this from ACT and write

(01:16):
it off as nutty climate change denier stuff. It is not.
Think about the Paris Agreement critically, right, set aside. You
know your vibes, whether you want to help the climate
or just set all of that stuff aside. Just think
about this critically as to whether it works or not,
and you can see it doesn't work. I mean, I
stand to be corrected, but I cannot see any country

(01:39):
that is meeting the targets. We will not meet the targets.
The US, one of the world's biggest polluters, has pulled out. China,
the world's biggest polluter, is still building cold powered plants.
I mean, we are fretting about the one coal powered
plant that we've got, the building heaps of them. India,
another one of the biggest polluters, also doing the same

(01:59):
with coal power plants, in which case, why would a
country responsible for what was it at the last count
was zero point one seven percent of the world's emissions
or something like that. Why would a country responsible for
such a small amount continue to persist with the climate
the Paris Climate Agreement. We're not saving the planet. We're
just making Kiwis poorer, and power is so expensive that
we now have people who cannot turn on the heat

(02:20):
every time. Huntley burns expensive coal. Coal, by the way,
which is not expensive, but which we have decided to
artificially make expensive in order to save the planet. Now
the Gnats have shot this down already and say it's
not happening. That's smart politics for them, because they've got
to hold onto the swing voters who might react badly,
you know, without thinking things through to anything that looks
like climate change denial. The Gnats might want to be

(02:41):
careful about what they rule in or out hard before
the election because they might need flexibility after the election.
Given both of their coalition partners want out of Paris
Act officially wants out unless things change. New Zealand first
keeps hinting at it, and if National is honest with itself,
they should want to get out of it too. Because
Paris is making us poorer but not doing anything to
save the planet.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Ever Due for Clans.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Nineteen nine two is the text number David Seamo was
with us after five o'clock down to something else. The
government's rejected recommendations for a more elite university system. This
is a report from the University Advisory Group. It recommended
making entry requirements harder and limiting which institutions can award
masters or doctorate degrees. But the government has said no
to all of this, and only sixty three or only

(03:30):
twenty three of the sixty three recommendations have actually been accepted.
Chair of that advisory group that wrote the report was
Sir Peter Gluckman. Who's with us now? Peter, Hello, Hi, okay,
why would we make the entry requirements harder?

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Well, I think we need to be clear that across
the Western world over the last forty years, we've massively
increased the number of universe of students go and the
university when many of them need to be at a
good polytechnic so they can move on to careers. What
we need to do is make sure that universities produce
graduates of the quality for jobs that need University graduates.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So you basically have universities just for the really smart kids.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
No, not necessarily, but I think and it's not one
of the major the primary recommendations in our report always
saying is we want to make sure that we maintain standards.
We need to make sure on the one hand we
have high quality entry and we've had problems with our
with our secondary school education as you know. And on
the other hand, we need to promote equity. So there's

(04:34):
a fine balance to achieve.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Okay, And so basically the same idea behind limiting the
masters and doctorate degrees.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Well, universities have a particular environment. That's why they created
they have a different funding base they use to create
a complete environment for training people to use with research degrees.
Polytechnics don't have that structure. They're not designed to do that.
There are parts of polynetchniques and one anger that do.

(05:04):
And so we again were trying to make sure that
we don't see degree inflation and that we actually have
degrees that maintain New Zone's high quality and standards.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Globally, are we not fighting I mean, aren't we fighting
a losing battle globally because globally, the bachelor's has just
become a bit of a nothing, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Well, that's the point. We want our universities to be
of high quality, to produce high quality graduates. Yes, that
contribute to society.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
No, I know what you're saying. What I'm saying is
what I'm saying is the thing that we're experiencing in
New Zealand is being experienced by the entire world. So
could we actually what's the value in holding the line?
Can we hold the line? Do we become elite if
we do?

Speaker 5 (05:49):
No, it's not about elitism. It's about making sure that
our young people have degrees and qualifications that fit them
for the world in the future. And we're seeing an
increasing number of the world is changing in terms of
educational tertiary education. We're seeing more use of short qualifications,
more use of practical qualifications. We also need people who

(06:12):
are trained in the humanities, the social sciences and the
creative arts as well. We need to get the balance
right and we haven't had and this is the whole
point of why the way the panel called was created
in the first place. We haven't had a strategic look
at the university system for over thirty or forty years.

(06:34):
We've paid a lot of time thing about the polytechniques.
Both this administration and the last government have put a
lot of effort into that. But the universities, which spend
a large amount of the government's money and a core
assets of the country, needed to be looked at from
the point of view what do we want to get
from them?

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Peter? On another subject altogether, do you have a view
on the Paris Agreement?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
I have a view on climate change that we must
do our best.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Well, community, it's not the question. It's not the question
at all. With respect, jeez, you didn't come on here
to be grilled. The question is not do we have
a view a climate change? That The question is do
you have a view on the Paris Agreement as the
mechanism to fight climate change?

Speaker 5 (07:19):
Well, it's clearly in trouble. The multilateral system is clearly
in trouble. But the scientific community would say, at the
moment it's the nearest thing we have to collective agreement
to make some progress, and the absence of everything else,
it will only make it worse if we all fall
away from it.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, this is probably true as well, Peter. Thank you.
I always appreciate your expertise and you and your giant brain.
That's sir. Peter Luckman, chair of the Advisory Group, wrote
report on the universities here the Yes, we should pull
out of Paris if only to stop planting trees on
good farmland. That's a perverse outcome of Paris. I was
thinking about this the other day.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
MJ.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You've nailed it. I was thinking about this the other
day because I was thinking about you know, is we
want to stop the farmers being able to sell their
good beef and sheepland sheep and beef land to you know,
other people who just want to plant trees on it.
And is it fair to stop a farmer doing that?
Of course it's not fair. If they can get megabucks
for you know, somebody who wants to just plant trees,
they should be able to sell. But the problem is, right,

(08:13):
the problem is that the only reason that someone wants
to pay that much to plant trees on it is
because we have created a perverse outcome. We've we've dicked
around with the market. We've gone a we're gonna we're
gonna give you all these little carbon credits, all this
nonsense to makey uppy stuff, right, and for that reason,
it's a smarter plan now to plant tree Like when

(08:34):
has it ever been a smarter plan to plant trees
all over land rather than run cattle and sheep Only
when you create maky uppy stuff and twist the market.
And that's what we've done. So if you take that away,
actually you'll find whoop there there we go cows and
sheep again.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
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Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, they remove the Paras Accord. Now, if you actually
think we should stay in the Paris Accord, you need
to text me because I have literally nothing like that
coming through. Nineteen past four Good Sport.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
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Speaker 3 (09:14):
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Speaker 7 (09:16):
Does is there cheese in this accord?

Speaker 8 (09:19):
All count me in?

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I don't get it. Why why is the cheese in
the accord?

Speaker 7 (09:24):
Just sent me anything in Paris? It doesn't have cheese,
and I want anything to do with.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
From rush USh. That was the only word I learned
when I was over.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
Which is like when you talk about a big important
person there, legrand fromage.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Now the big check, big cheese. So we have another
half back down? Do we we're gonna lose? I shouldn't laugh.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
So what we've got this great, big muscular shoulder, this
incredible big bicep, and that's our pack. And then we've
got these amazing strong but dainty fingers and forearm, and
that is our back line. Someone's stolen our elbow. I
don't know what we're going to do. What pick up
the arm and slap somebody with it. Acc have just

(10:05):
put up a Instagram post of petty wearepoo standing in
a river white baiting referencing, of course be Donald for
back in the day. There might be a bit of
tilling and throwing and restie arrestmus is not beyond playing
a few games, maybe Scott Robertson, I'm not sure if
the injury is the pressed in that bed, or if

(10:28):
it's a cut or it's a tweak or we don't
want to.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Say, oh, Kyle Preston hurt his right ankle while training.

Speaker 7 (10:34):
Yeah, but then someone said, oh, it might be a cut.
So maybe it's a cut or they've sliced his tendons.

Speaker 8 (10:40):
In all sorts of trouble.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Kyle down, We've got can Roy guards down, We've got
Noah Hope them down. Courtsy's utimate is down, but courtis
utimate is training. So it's a possibility he actually does play.

Speaker 7 (10:50):
Yeah. Possibly, Yeah, it could do. And they might roll
him out at the last minute because you really need
an elbow, you really do. And Philly Christie's going, hold on,
I'm all right, I'm not I'm not Chop Liver. There's
a chance for him to be an absolute hero. But
this narrative ahead of this Test match is fascinating because
it's the biggest test match I read somebe today, possibly

(11:11):
the biggest test mansion there. This is the biggest test
match in New Zealand's is the twenty eleven final is immense,
It's one v two. It's the old crew coming through to.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Start with that. I'm not going, no, I'm going.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
I couldn't get tickets because they cost too much and
I've got no money because I worked for ZB But
I watched on the TV and I quite pleased about that,
the reason being I don't want to be anywhere near
Eaton Park if they all blacks get beaten. Remember the
tension around the World Cup Final in twenty eleven. There
was not a happy person there. It was awful and

(11:46):
when the whistle blew it was relief. It was like
I've just seen an amazing game of rugby. It's like
that's what.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's going to be. Like, that's enough. That's enough. You
don't need to hype us up to this extent. Gees,
we're already worried. Okay, just quickly thoughts on Reese.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
Walsh wristwash, drinking of his toilet bowl. There's just another
and the long line of magnificent extracurricular activities maintained by
the NRL right in particular, Well, he's managed quite a few.
He's I think he's on about five on the bounds
now done.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
This is the drinking the toilet and last time he
was he was punching his mate in the face.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (12:20):
I remember he got arrested for cocaine up on the
Gold Coast. And there was another small issue as well.
There's a list of them, but it's it's rugby league, right.
Remember Joel Monahan and his caneine story. What about the
bubbler and how that was my bubb favor Todd Carney.
That was something else. What about a group of NURL

(12:41):
players going not really down to a lockdown, you know what,
it's going to have a hodown And they went and
met out in the country somewhere. They just keep bringing it,
they keep giving.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Definitely not the clever boy sport is it some of them?

Speaker 7 (12:55):
But I think it's the it's the ones that make
the biggest splash people remember.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Thank you. Back to this because you're gonna have to
hear this. I'll play it for your Darcy water Grave
Sports talk cost see back at seven three.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
The name you trust to get the answers you need,
it's Heather duple Clan drive with one New Zealand coverage
Like no one else used talk they'd be.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Okay, free Swalsh. So Reese Walsh, this is the Broncos player.
But he's a keywi isn't he Yeah he is, Yeah,
I know a little bit of it. Something about something.
Oh no, he just played for the Warriors. Oh I
don't know anything about anything. Don't don't listen to me
on the NRL anyway. So he's the Broncos player. He's
making news because he's posted a video on social media

(13:37):
drinking water straight out of his toilet bowl.

Speaker 9 (13:40):
I reckon, there's a new form of recovery now to
recover the muscles.

Speaker 10 (13:46):
I reckon, if.

Speaker 11 (13:47):
You miss toilet or off.

Speaker 12 (13:57):
Hes, give a little drink.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Waman he So it turns out. It turns out he's
busy renovating a home, his home or whatever, and he
installed a brand new toilet in a new bathroom and
it hadn't been used. Therefore, it's basically like drinking it
out of at out of you sink, right, I mean,
it hasn't. Nobody's done weabes in it yet, so you're
good to go. But this is what I love about
the NRL is that their players do abundant, like exceptionally

(14:22):
stupid things, and they're so dumb, these boys. They first
they do the stupid thing, but then they push it
on social media, the stupid thing that they've done, and
then we get all worked up about and we've got
opinions on it and stuff, and isn't that And of
course you know, then the Broncos are trying to cover
it up. It was too late, it's already happened. Isn't
this so much better than rugby union? I mean, I

(14:43):
don't even know who Rees Walsh is. But I know
more about Reese Walsh than I know about basically any
All black. Like literally, I've sat there thinking about it today.
I've gone through all the All Blacks. I was like, no, no,
nothing about these guys. But I know res Walsh likes
to punch his friends in the face, and I know
he drinks toilet water, and he's got a black toy
live in his house, and he used to play for
the Warriors. I know more about him than I think

(15:04):
the All Blacks. It's a weird bit of advice to
give them. I think they might need to loosen up
and let their boys do boy things and let us
get outraged about it, because now I want to watch
Reese's next match, just just because I'm interested. Anyway. By
the way, listen, what's this is this? Hello Saya, Yes,
Gutter Black because they're playing at home, drove standby, I'll explain.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home. It's Heather Duplicy Ellen
Drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite
mobile news talks by.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Right, this is obviously six sixty special and the reason
we're playing them. And the reason that we played Hallow
sailor Gutter Black before and Lady six Like Water is
because all of these songs are from artists who are
going to play Homegrown next year has just been announced.
It's happening at Claudland's Oval in Hamilton. So the entire
show is just going to be like a mini mini Homegrown,

(16:11):
which is going to bring you that the condensed version
of Homegrown. So stand by for that. Heather, regarding that
numpty who was drinking his toilet water, just because you've
not used the toilet in your new build are Reno,
does not mean it has not been used. Trust me.
As soon as the plumbing is connected the trade, he's
are testing it and I have had a number of
texts along those lines. But look, the thing is Reese

(16:32):
is clearly a dumb boy, and it's maybe at some
points he's just dumb. That's the way. He didn't think
about that, but somebody will have told him by now
and he realizes he has drunk somebody's weewies, hasn't he?
Twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
That's the world wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
The leaders of Russia and India have had a meeting
on the sidelines of the Big Summit in China. Chinese
President Jijingping has made some veiled criticisms of the US.

Speaker 9 (16:59):
You can currently change and turbulence are interweaving in the world,
and all member states are facing more arduous tasks on
security and development. We must continue to unequivocally oppose hedgemonism
and power politics.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
More than eight hundred people have been killed in an
earthquake in Afghanistan. This man was caught happening.

Speaker 13 (17:16):
It's got my address on the front right, but it
didn't get delivered to my dress. It got delivered to
my ex mother in law's house and.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Then she brought it around to my house. What the helly?

Speaker 13 (17:27):
But the person that we sent it to has given
us good feedback, so they've received it, but they can't.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Add because it's here. That was obviously not the guard
from Afghanistan. But it was so good that I just
kept listening to it. I'm going to make you listen
to it again though, because it was that good. A
woman in the UK thinks the creepy painting she owns
might be cursed after she tried and failed to get
rid of it. The woman sold the painting online, then
mailed it to the buyer, and then an unexpectedly turned
back up on her doorstep shortly afterwards. So here it is.

Speaker 13 (17:54):
It's got my address on the front right. But it
didn't get delivered to my dress. It got delivered to
my ex mother in laws house and then she brought
it around to my house.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
What the helly?

Speaker 13 (18:04):
But the person that we sent it to has given
us good feedback that they've received it.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
But they can't because it's here. That is creepy, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
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Speaker 3 (18:20):
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Speaker 6 (18:23):
A very good afternoon here though.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Did you see the res wolf video?

Speaker 14 (18:28):
No?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
I have not seen it.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Seen the What are you doing with your life?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Mas?

Speaker 3 (18:32):
It's res wolves drinking a toilet?

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Oh no, Well nothing surprised me when it comes.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
To the NRL.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, that's how I feel about it.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
It was the guy who was the who was the
player who bent over and was having a drink something
you should be having a drink of.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
He's talk about the bubbling, the bubbling.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
Yeah, it goes back a decade. There's a.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
I think they're there's a lot of stuff that's happened
in the narrow Hey listen. Obviously someone's helping Dizzy Freeman.
But who do we think it is.

Speaker 6 (19:06):
Well, we'll not sure. I mean, Freeman might be dead,
he may have taken his own life out there. But
police say if he is alive, he must be getting
some help because he hasn't been seeing He's fifty six
years old, freezing cold. He is a good bushman, but
he wasn't wearing the clothes he vanished and perhaps well
police have got a better idea now. They perhaps weren't
ideal for high country you know, weathering it out in

(19:28):
high country Victoria this time of year. But he's either
being helped or even harbored, police say, by locals, and
the police have appealed to him to give up, so
to his wife. The huge search continues, but there's no
side of this fellow, and it's now on its eighth today,
this search. It's believed Freeman has a number of firearms,
including at least one weapon from one of the police

(19:51):
officers he's shot dead a week ago, so no sign
of him at this point. Heather, no sign at all.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
No. Now, Bob Catter, what do you make the fact
that he thinks he should have gone further?

Speaker 5 (20:02):
Oh god, this guy.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
He's even suggesting Nine should apologize. He's mulling defamation action
against nine. I mean, please, Bob Cattter is eighty years
old and he's a bit like Joe Bilki Peterson. There's
something about that state that sends older men tropo and Bob.
I mean, you remember, you wouldn't I'm sure you would?

Speaker 8 (20:25):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
I mean, canas like Belchi Pedis incarnate. So you know
we've all seen the vision. His granddad came from Lebanon.
Bob Catter on the weekend was vowing out there to
go and march with in a march that did attract
neo Nazis. If you don't mind to protest against the
level of migration, I mean, is that not hypocrisy written

(20:47):
in capital letters across the sky. And then Josh Babis
the reporter. I don't know, Josh, but he just asked
the question, mate, your granddad was a migrant already blew up?
So anyway, that outrageous Outburstman referred to the Parliamentary Standards tribunal.
I mean there are people who are making excuses for
his behavior. Nine is demanding its own apology. Cattera says,

(21:11):
no way, And as you said, you know, I should
have been more aggressive. My only here's the quote from
Katta I found at my notes. My only regret. I
wasn't more aggressive with him. Far from apologizing, I just
should have kept going. And I'll leave it to your
imagination as to what that means. I mean, the silly
old bugger will have a heart attack in a minute.
And his hat's too tight.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Mars. I don't really understand what his objection to it
is because he I mean, the fact is that it's
a statement of truth, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
It is a statement of truth. But you know, his son,
Robbie catter who's in the State Parliament of Queensland, came
out and he said little Dad's relationship with his father
was complicated. There was something about oh I had a
mother too, and she didn't come from Lebanon. I mean,
what's the matter with the guys. I mean, unless you
are indigenous, everyone's new here, everyone's arrived here subsequent Chata

(22:07):
has no acception and for them to carry on like
a pork chop was something so trivial. It's just it
speaks to that that's just how pathetic a fellow is.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah too, right, Mars, listen, thanks so much, appreciated Murray
Old's Australia correspondent. Ever, do, by the way, on that
little meeting on the sidelines that we just mentioned in
the World Wise before between Narenda Modri, Narendra Modi and
Vladimir Putin that the chappho runs India and the champoo
runs runs Russia, you do realize it happened in the car,

(22:37):
which is a very it's a very like in vogue
way for world meeting leaders to get alone with each
other and have a little meeting. I'm in the Trump
and Putin spit a bit, spent a bit of time
in the beast over in Alaska. And everybody's like, oh,
what did they discuss?

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Oh what?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Probably the pawn video that Putin's got on Trump, But
that's just a conspiracy theory. But anyway, so anyway, these
two are sitting in the car. They are in there
for forty five minutes. Now, listen, I don't mind a
car meeting because sometimes you know, I'll go like, do
a yoga class with one of my friends and then
she'll drop me off at home and then you know you,

(23:11):
you did not quite finished with your chat about whatever.
You sit there for five minutes finishing the chat off,
go inside, But forty five minutes in a car with
another bloke that is a hell of a long time.
That's basically hot boxing, and not even with drugs. You're
just hot boxing it with your body odors. That's disgusting. Anyway,
whatever up to them, Barry Soap is gonna be with
us shortly. Can I just tell you very quickly what's

(23:31):
happened with the ugly bridge and Wellington? You know the one?
This is the City to See Bridge, which they which
Wellington outlets not ironically describe as iconic. There's nothing iconic
about it. It just looks like you ran out of
money and then you went down to the beach and
you've got some bits of wood and you nailed them
together just to try and make it. It's like looks
like a makeshift bridge, doesn't it, And the faster like

(23:53):
what do you think world leaders think when they come
to Wellington? They go, what the hell is it?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Like?

Speaker 3 (23:57):
They used to beg old bridges with ben shen and
bits of metal and it's all flash and neon lights
at night in Wellington's like look at our bradg looks
like drift work Colai and they're like, wow, how poor
are you? People? Anyway, diverted. The thing I'm trying to
tell you is that the court has said that that
thing can now be demolished. Because remember, there are actual
numpties in Wellington who want to save it. Good I

(24:19):
really knows what's going on in that city. Sometimes they
decided they want to save it. They've gone to court,
they've lost, Thank god. The council can now demolish it.
But the Numpties have got twenty days to appeal this.
But the Wellington City Council, that one of the few
times I think they're doing the right thing, has gone.
I've got twenty days to appeal that. We give them
three and if they haven't appealed by Thursday, we're knocking
it down on Friday. And do you know what, all

(24:39):
power to them. I can't wait for it. We're going
to talk to one of the councilors, Nicola Young about
this in about half an hour's time. Sixteen away from.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
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Speaker 3 (24:51):
If you haven't heard the yarn about the guy who
got struck by lightning yesterday, stand by because I'm going
to tell you that before the top of the hour.
Right now, it's thirteen away from five and Barry Soper,
Senior Political Correspondence with US.

Speaker 15 (25:00):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Hither.

Speaker 15 (25:01):
I quite liked the bridge in Wellington. It's sort of
art nouveaux, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
It's it is it art?

Speaker 15 (25:08):
It's a bit different?

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Why?

Speaker 6 (25:12):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Is that the same reason that you wore bow ties
for thirty five years? Just a bit different? Actually, with
that statement, I think we've just realized that nothing that
you say from here on it about whether something looks
cool or not.

Speaker 15 (25:25):
We just I'll tell you when I was wearing those
bow ties, and you're absolutely right. You wouldn't believe how
many politicians, including cabinet ministers, came up to me and said,
I wish, I wish I had the courage to wear
a bow tie. And I wore them because in Wellington,
your tirees fly all over the place. Bow tirees were
quite convenient.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yep, okay, cool anyway, So have you had a look
at the New Zealand Initiative Report and the number of
ministers and ministries.

Speaker 15 (25:51):
Yes, I have, and it is interesting and when you
look at it, you go for goodness sake. I mean,
one of the things that I would say is that
eighty one ministerial portfolios is patently ridiculous. You look at
MB for example, it has twenty different ministers, so you

(26:12):
can imagine making a decision. You've got to consult with
all your fellow ministers and arrive at a decision. That's
why government comes to a standstill at time twenty eight
ministers and forty three departments. Now we know that Brian
Roach his ambition is to streamline the public service, to

(26:34):
reduce the departments, and I think that's certainly around the corner.
But they cited countries like Ireland and Singapore as proof
that you can effectively operate with between fifteen and twenty
ministers and portfolios, and they're saying New Zealand should certainly

(26:55):
cut back. But if you look at those countries as
I have done, well you know they're different to New Zealand.
Because New Zealand we've got MMP, we've got to accommodate
other parties within our ministries and you know they well,
certainly Singapore doesn't have to it's a one party state,
but certainly Ireland and Norway they are coalition governments, so

(27:19):
they can do so with fewer, many fewer ministers than
what we've got here. So you know, the argument I
think is a good one. I went back over ministries
just in recent years. The long E government, the Longy
cabinet that was forty years ago, they had twenty ministers
and twenty ministries, so that's incredible and forty years ago,

(27:43):
so many fewer. It started to grow after MMP in
nineteen ninety six. Of course, the Clerk government, it had
twenty ministers though, but then they started appointing ministers outside
of cabinet. There were eight ministers in her government out
side of cabinet. So that's where the problem has arisen
that we have bent over to accommodate other parties. But

(28:08):
you imagine if you've got a big caucus and you're
the National Party for example. They don't have such a
big caucus, but if you did have, you had to
keep your caucus happy, and dolling out ministries is one
way to do that. If you haven't got the ability
to do that. There's a lot of there would be
a lot of talk going on behind the scene.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well yeah, I mean that's kind of what happens in
That's what happens in the UK, where the executive is
so small in contrast to the size of the party,
so you've always got the backbenches causing trouble at Listen,
do you reckon National? National can say right now that
they're going to stay in the Paris coord and that's
their policy, But what do you reckon happens after the election?

Speaker 15 (28:45):
Well, yes, I think the side of the election they
will stay in the Paris Accord. And nobody's withdrawn from
the parents Cord yet the US has Well I was
just going to say, but the US, they've done it
twice under Donald Trump, and they're formal withdrawal takes place
in January next year. That's the second one. But look,

(29:06):
the Paris Accord. I heard Petty Luckman on with you,
and I think what he's essentially saying is that it's
better than nothing. So have you got people pulling out
of it or countries pulling out of it, then you're
left with really nothing. Although the Paris Accord. The goals
that are set within it are very, very high. Luxton

(29:28):
was asked today what his position was, and he said
that pulling out of Paris would be the quickest way
to hurt New Zealand farmers. But he seemed to argue
it on the basis that of image that if you're
off the shelves in some countries you produce, you're outside
the Paris Accord, then the people will shop elsewhere and

(29:51):
other countries will export.

Speaker 8 (29:54):
But I really don't.

Speaker 15 (29:55):
Think that's going to affect them in that way. I
think the Paris Accord is more damaging to because of
its very nature and what it imposes on farmers and
what they have to do.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, that's a fair argument, right, And I feel as
if you have to do the costs of each right,
is it more exp like do we take a great
is there a greater loss if we pull out? Or
is there a greater loss by staying in? And at
the moment, I mean, jeez, Berry, you've got people who
can't turn the heater on in their houses when Huntly
fires and that's the because of climate INSI and that's
the problem, And is the worth it for us?

Speaker 15 (30:26):
No, it's not and it's certainly not worth it importing
coal from Indonesia when we could have been mining it
here because we need it. We don't have the alternatives
at the moment.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, Barry, thank you very much. Appreciate it very so
for senior political correspondent eight away from five putting.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
The tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 16 (30:47):
So we got there at last. The deal has been
struck for the Golden visa holders. They can buy or
build a house to the value of five million dollars
plus crystal actions back with.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
I mean the coal things.

Speaker 17 (30:55):
We've had three hundred applicants clying for less active list
of visa.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
That's almost two billion dollars. Isn't having the economy on
April one?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
That's now here.

Speaker 16 (31:02):
Winston Peter's New Zealand first leader is with us. Did
you have to get dragged kicking and screaming to this
particular conclusion.

Speaker 17 (31:08):
My ANX was about those who have said in the
mainstream media they can't get their head around it. The
business not change through the foreign buyers man, it's a
change to the investment rules to act people to come
to this country for money that we definitely.

Speaker 16 (31:20):
Need back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast
with a Vida News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Heither, if we pull out of the Paris Accord, it
will have minimal impact on farm exports because where do
farm exports mainly go China and America, So no problems there,
thank you, Lloyd. Obviously China doesn't care because they're not
actually this is a pretendy, pretendy that they're doing something about Paris.
They're not really, and America doesn't care because they're pulling out.
So I appreciate that text, by the way, on the

(31:48):
New Zealand Initiative reports suggesting that what we need to
do is consolidate the public service like massively and rarely
get rid of like just merge a whole bunch of departments,
get rid of a whole bunch of portfolios. We want
to speak to Brian wrote about it. He's the guy
running the public sector. We're just trying to organize an
interview with him later in the week, so hopefully we'll
be able to get him.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
What have you got? It's Libby's in charge today. What
have you got? Libby? Of the Black Seeds? Of the
Black Seeds, because can you believe they're still alive? I
mean they must be like seventy five now I've been
going forever. Anyway, the Black Seeds are playing at Home Grown,
so there's another one of the ones that are going
to be there. Next up, we'll have a chat to
David Seymour about pulling out of the Paris Accord. And

(32:28):
also one of the luxury real estate agents who reckon
his phone is just going off at the moment. Oh,
I've meant to tell you about the lightning, but I've
run out of time, so stand by. I'm going to
tell you about the lightning in the next half hour.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
So the only drive show you can to ask the question,

(33:02):
get the answers, find the fact the same and give
the analysis. Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with one New
Zealand and the power of satellite mobile News Dog's Heavy Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
The Paris Climate Accord needs to change or New Zealand
needs to leave. That's the message from the ACT Party.
This means both of National's coalition partners now want to
leave or evaluate the Paris agreement. To ACT Party leader
David Seymour's with us now, Hi, David, Hey, Okay, so
you say it has to reform or we leave. So
what's the reform that you want to see?

Speaker 18 (33:34):
Well, I think the best reform would be something that
reflects our own emissions profile, where a country like some
in South America that have a very high exposure around
methane less so around CO two and the guesses that
you might relate to cities or industry, and at the

(33:54):
moment we face being punished for being a methane heavy economy.
I think it's about time that we perhaps along with
like minded nations. I'm thinking South American nations like Uruguay
that have a lot of livestock, also a lot of
Southeast Asian nations which produce a lot of rice, which
it turns out actually produces a lot of methane. We

(34:17):
should be going to Powis saying, hang on a minute.
Instead of our government officials making representations to the public
that pay them on behalf of these global institutions, maybe
they should actually be going on our behalf overseas to say,
you guys need to give a fair deal to methane
heavy economies. Because methane is a very different gas. It

(34:38):
has a much different effect on climate because it breaks
down over time, and therefore that scientific reality needs to
be recognized. Maybe then we should stay in it because
we like to be good global citizens. But like a
bad boyfriend, if the abuse continues and it doesn't change,
then I think we need to pull out.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
National says we can't pull out because if we do,
our farmers get punished and pulled off shelves. Is that
what happens?

Speaker 18 (35:03):
Well, that is what some people in the sector will say.
So Miles Hrrel, for example, sat down with him a
month back. I think he's a hell of a great guy, Miles,
and that's an argument that he's made. However, I just
make the point that the New Zealand agricultural sector is
known for its world beating innovation. Everybody is trying to

(35:24):
create a mix of products that actually appeal to foreign
customers according to their taste, and some people are going
above and beyond and actually doing zero carbon beef and
so on. They don't need the entire country to do
that in order for them to succeed. Likewise, there are
others who are selling to customers and markets who have

(35:45):
other concerns. So I don't believe that it needs to
be one size fits all as a country. I believe
what is important is that New Zealand as a country
does its bit, but does not drive the most efficient
farmers in the world out of business, so that used
to be customers end up buying their food from farmers

(36:06):
overseas that actually emit more per calorie of nutrition than
we do.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Okay, So are you arguing that if Miles Hurrell wants
to continue to supply people who want to buy milk
and various products that are climate friendly, he can continue
to do so without us being in the Paris Accord.

Speaker 18 (36:23):
He absolutely can, because ultimately, if you're a major supplier
and you're dealing with say a n Essay, then you
have the ability to make a deal with them. And
I know there's the argument, and I've gone back and
forth with various people say, oh, the rest of the
world just sees one brand, brand New Zealand. I actually
don't believe that is how most of the New Zealand

(36:44):
agricultural sector works. Actually, they are very sharp at innovating
and offering product offerings that are recognized for their merit
rather than their origin.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Brilliant stuf David appreciate it, by the way. Actually, before
I let you go do you reckon you can convince.

Speaker 18 (36:57):
National Well, we've got a pretty good track record if
you look at the influence that actors had over this
government is I think profound and I'm very proud of
what we're doing to make New Zealand a better place.
So watch this space.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Thank you, David David Seymore AXX Party leader eleven past
five Here the duplicy Allen right, Well, real estate agents
reckon that their phones are already ringing with calls from
prospective overseas buyers today the government has announced it will
ease the foreign Buyers Band for Golden visa holders wanting
to buy a house for more than five million bucks.
Anthony Mouzenkov is a luxury real estate agent with Forbes
Global and with US.

Speaker 10 (37:29):
High Anthony, Hi, ever, thank you for having me on
the show.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, you're welcome. Thanks for coming back. How many calls
have you fielded today?

Speaker 10 (37:37):
I don't know, it's been quite a view. The line
has been going for the last couple of weeks. The
lion has been going continuously and day and night. As
we get a lot of people from the United States,
especially the United States, and from especially northern Europe.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
And how much do they want to spend.

Speaker 10 (37:55):
I've got clients that got over one hundred million to
spend here in New Zealand, not on a house, not
in a house, but five million dollars for a house
is for them.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
It's pretty easy money change.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, what do they want to do? Do they want to
buy or build?

Speaker 10 (38:10):
There's both there. I think there's a I think there
would be a I wouldn't know the exact numbers, but
it would be on any pretty even keel. We're dealing
with new bills at the moment and there's a big
interest in that, and especially if there's good named architectsure involved.
There's certain interest on that side as well.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
And where in the country are they looking at.

Speaker 10 (38:36):
It's mainly Queenstown Wannaka Auckland area. And the problem with
this legislation is what they've done here now at the
concentration of those buyers will be going diverted to those
two areas. It's a little bit of a shame that
they aren't able to put more into the regions.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Yeah, that's a fair point, actually, Anthony, thanks so much.
Best of lucky that Anthony Morsenkoff for luxury real estate
agent together do for c Allen. Finally, gosh, this has
been going on forever, isn't it. Finally we know who's
going to replace Anna Wintour as the editor of Vogue.
It is Chloe Marl. Chloe Marl is a the po baby,
which is unfortunate for Chloe's She might actually be quite capable.

(39:17):
But only thing we know about Chloe is that she's
the daughter of Candice Bergen, who was in Murphy Brown
and the director in the screenwriter Louis Mahl. But she
has actually worked at Vogue for about fourteen years. She
runs vogue dot com so and by the way, in
a kind of a nice little circle. Candace, her mum,
played the editor of Vogue on Sex and the City.
So there you go. But anyway, we'll see how it goes.

(39:39):
I wouldn't want to be replacing Anna Wintour, would you.
I just feel like that woman would like she'd be
one of those ones to be like, yes, I'm retired,
while basically still micromanaging you to death. Fourteen past five. Listen,
we need to talk about some ev myths. You know
the one. This is one of the myths, you know,
the one about how the batteries only last a few years.
That's not true. The BYD blade battery has an eight

(39:59):
year warranty, but it is actually designed to last a
lot longer. It's actually known as the one hundred year battery,
so it should last about thirty odd years in your car,
and then another fifty to seventy years. Is like a
storage standby battery for I don't know, maybe your house
if you want it. You know, the myth about how
evs are no good in an emergency also wrong. Actually,
if the power goes out, what you want to do

(40:20):
is plunk your household appliances and your medical equipment, and
your fridges and your water pumps straight into your BYD.
It will last you ages. And then when you get
low on battery, you always have at least fifteen percent
power left to drive to an area where there is power,
charge up, and bring that power back home. And you know,
the myth about how evs are not good for the
planet and they produce a lot of CO two actually wrong.
As well, as of July thirty first, BYD has saved

(40:42):
over one hundred and six billion CAGs of CO two,
which is equal to planting one point seven billion trees,
which is a forest. Thirty two times the size of
Greater Wellington. Go on check it out for yourself and
dispel the myths for yourself as well byd Auto dot
co dot nz. Ever, yesterday Bishop was on the show.

(41:02):
Chris Bishop was on the show yesterday in place of
Nikola Willis and it was awesome, by the way, and
so never mind, so fun to for so fun to
chat too. There's a lot in this guy. But anyway,
the point I'm trying to get to is we spoke
to him about the gang patch banter. Remember how the
judge gave the patch back to the bungrel mob member
and he said to us last night, Chris, he said, no,
you need to talk to Paul Goldsmith about that. So

(41:23):
we are. He's going to be with us after half past.
It's eighteen past five now Wellington. Wellington City Council might
start knocking down that ugly City to See bridge as
early as Friday because they've won a court case against
the group wanting to keep the bridge. Nikola Young is
a Wellington City councilor and with us high Nikola, Hi,
do you reckon the other lot will appeal?

Speaker 19 (41:44):
Look, I don't know, but there were six councilors who opposed.
I opposed the demolition because the bridges a much safer
way to cross the state highway than a pedestrian crossing.
And you know, we are overwhelmed by the number of
people who are contacting us. Now I think we will
there are ways of trying to stop it. But what
has been made very clear to me by the Chief

(42:06):
Executive with whom I spoke today was at the beginning
of the judicial review, the two sets of lawyers agreed
that if the council one, they would have three days
the Civic Trust would have three days to appeal. So
the Council is just following the process. The officers have
the authority to enact the decision to demolish the bridge,
so it's just a matter of what we do to
try and change it. So we're looking at doing a

(42:28):
notice of revocation yep, carry on. That has to go
to the same committee, and then because we are coming
to the end of the trianium, we'd have to call
a special meeting for it. So it's a matter of
whether we have the support for the notice of revocation
and for the extra meeting. Who knows, but we are
going to try it because the number of Wellingtonians who

(42:49):
want to retain the bridge, you know, like it or
putting it aside the aesthetics, it's a safety aspect. It's
a lovely way to cross over to the waterfront rather
than going through it over a pedestrian crossing.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Can I just ask which of these two options is
cheaper to knock the bridge down and replace it with
a functional, smaller bridge, or to keep the bridge and
strengthen it.

Speaker 19 (43:10):
Well, of course they're saying they'll knock it down have
a pedestrian crossing in the interim, but you know what
happens in Wednington that the pedestrian crossing will stay forever.
It's hard to say hither because you never know where
the numbers we get. Because we've been told by some
other engineers that the prices we've been quoted are far
too high. And I'm not an engineer and I'm not
a quantity surveyor, so I wouldn't know. But we just think,

(43:30):
we have to think. Weddington has been full of roads
being ripped up, buildings being pulled down, road cones everywhere.

Speaker 6 (43:36):
Enough, you know, let's just.

Speaker 19 (43:38):
Keep the bridge and work around it.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Brilliant Nichola, Thank you very much. I do appreciate your time.
That's Nicola Young, Wellington City councilor this is what happens
when you can no longer trust your officials, and Wellington
City Council officials have absolutely done this to themselves.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Right.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I've got to tell you the lightning story. We're getting
there five twenty.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
It's Heather dupicl and Drive with One Zealand coverage like
no one else's news talks.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
They'd be five twenty three. So the millionaire who snatched
the cap from the boy at the tennis has broken
his silence and apologized. He said it was a huge mistake.
He said he didn't realize that he'd taken the boy's hat.
He thought it was meant for his son's and he
says his quote, single moment of indifference could destroy years
of his work. What a load of tosh. If you

(44:24):
watch that footage, you know that he can see that
the boy. He knows that boy is there for a second.
If if you freeze from it, you'll see for a
second his hand is on the cap at the same
time that that little boy's hand is on the cap,
and he snatches it off the boy. Then he tries
to body block the boy while he's putting the cap
in his wife's bag. He knows the boy is there
because the boy is literally crying at him, and then
at one point he hands a pen to the boy.

(44:45):
So tell me you don't know the boy is there.
No one is going to believe this nonsense from him.
And if I had to predict things, I would say
he's made the situation a lot worse for himself by lying.
He should just have fesced up and said, yeah, look,
I was a dick. I'm sorry. But isn't this an
interesting mirror, isn't it of the cold Play couple? In
both cases, you've got chief executives doing something that they

(45:05):
wouldn't like others to see at a public event, caught
on camera, going viral, threatening their careers. Now, I would
not be surprised if people rush to this clown's defense
in the same way that people weirdly rush to the
defense of the cold Play couple. And look, I would
agree losing your job for a moment, or being caught
having an affair or whatever. I think it is a
harsh punishment, and we can debate whether it's reasonable but

(45:27):
learn the lesson already. It's twenty twenty five. There are
cameras everywhere. Anything can go global from anywhere, and anyone
can be traced and anyone can be exposed. Don't do
anything in public that you don't want everyone to see,
because we can. And if you do do that, because look,
we are human and we're going to make mistakes, be
honest and say you're sorry immediately. And if you choose
not to do that, like this guy, don't moan that

(45:50):
this is how it works, because we've seen this happen
twice now in about three months. No one can claim
that they didn't realize that this is how global mob
punishment runs out ever seen right, here's the lightning yewn
for you. So Chris Wilson of Westport was hit by
lightning yesterday. He didn't die because he reckons. His gum
boot saved his life. So what happened is he's on

(46:10):
his quad bike herding cows into the milking shed about
six am and the lightning strikes. He said it was
the whitest light I've ever seen. He says he passed
out and then he woke up, slumped over the bike
and couldn't see. Couldn't see for about five to ten minutes.
The herd of four hundred cows had already scarped to
the back paddock. Back of the paddock, and his quad

(46:30):
bike wouldn't go, so he started herding them with his
torch by the sounds of things on foot. About ten
minutes later, the lights on the bikes finally start flickering,
so then he drives the cows to the shed and
carries on working. At breakfast time, he goes on for breakfast,
he spews a little bit and his missus was like,
you better go to the doctor. And I was like, oh,

(46:51):
maybe he had a migraine and his eyes felt like
they were burning. So he did take himself off to
Ballah Hospital, got checked over, and they sent him home.
He says he was more gutted about his gum boots
because it burned a hole in the gum boots. He
called the manufacturer scaler up to tell them that the
gum boots had saved his life. He reckons it's a
good thing he bought the expensive gum boots, because if

(47:12):
he bought the cheap gum boots, he's not sure if
he would have survived. He's back at work today. His
farm bike is working mint, he says, because the lightning
must have charged up the battery. So there you go,
you can survive a lightning strike. Holy heck. Keep an
eye on that one. Do you know that's where Maureen
pu lives, isn't it as well? And she's been struck
by lightning about eighty five thousand times. So it's a

(47:33):
thing that happens there really quickly. It's the nurse's strike.
Happened today and it's going to happen on Thursday as well.
Did you see what Simeon Brown did? They're demonstrating outside
his office because they're striking, so his staff printed out
a message to them and stuck it on the windows.
And I think how they did it was they took
a full pages and on each a full page they
printed a letter, and it looks to me like they're
about sixty one or sixty two of these pages. Stuck

(47:55):
them up on the window and it says NZN union
strike disrupts more than third teen thousand surgeries and appointments,
which I quite enjoyed because he's not taking this one.
Lying down news us next and then we're off to
have a chat to Goldie about what we're gonna do
about the judge giving the gang patch back. What if
we got here sons of Zion, drift away, enjoy just.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Drift away, hard questions, strong opinion here the duplicy Ellen
drive with one New Zealand and the power of Satellite
Mobile News Dog said, be.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, it's super groove. You got to know so if
you're of that generation then you love these guys. It's
actually probably a good time for you. The boss, the
New Zealand Boss of Amazon's going to be with us
after six o'clock talk us through that big investment that
Luxel's absolutely stoked about today. And we've got the huddle
standing by clear delaw and Stuart Nash will be with
us right now. It's twenty five away from six now.

(49:01):
The Justice Minister is heading back a criticism over the
gang patch law. The criticisms cropped up after a judge
gave a confiscated patch back to among the mob member
because of Tea Kanger. Paul Goldsmith is the Justice Minister
and with us, Hey, Paul.

Speaker 8 (49:16):
Good afternoon, Heather. Yes, how are.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
You You sound like you're worried about what's going to happen.

Speaker 14 (49:25):
Well, I mean, obviously, look the fastest way for a
Minister of Justice to get sectors to criticize individual judges decision.
So I'm not going to be doing that or commenting
on it.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I won't have to say that now, I won't ask
you to. What I want to know is whether you're
going to change the law to force the destruction of
the patches so they can't be handed back.

Speaker 14 (49:45):
Well, if we need to, we will. I mean, obviously
there's a legal process to go through. It may be appealed.
I don't know, and so we'll wait and see how
that all plays out. And if we find that we've
got a problem with the legislation, will fix it. But
you know, it's been very successful in a large number
of cases so far and certainly send out a clear message.

(50:09):
And I think everybody in the community has seen the difference.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Yeah, no, we know that. We know that, and I
mean this is one judge and on one mong l member.
But when you warned that this might happen if you didn't,
if you didn't destroy the patches.

Speaker 14 (50:22):
Well, I look, I mean we passed legislation. We think
it's very very clear, and so you know, there's a
broader issue around.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well.

Speaker 14 (50:33):
I mean, look, it's an issue that an individual judge
makes a decision. I can't comment on that. I'm not
going to comment on that, and so I've just stopped
talking before I do.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Do you make fair enough? Do you make the decision
as to whether appeal, whether to appeal or is that no? No, no, no,
that's again totally independent.

Speaker 14 (50:52):
That's up to the police, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Okay, yeah, Now listen on another subject. You're making some
changes to help event organizers get liquor licenses. What are
you doing well?

Speaker 14 (51:01):
I mean, last week we announced our creative strategy, which
has got two elements to it. We want to increase
the number of New Zealanders engaging with the arts and
the creative sector more generally. And then secondly, we want
to make more money out of the arts and it's
a potentially big export area for the country and so forth.
And you know, one of the things that we sometimes
don't recognize as many people in the creative sector generally

(51:23):
small businesses trying to make a buck and it's no
different to any other business. We want to make life
a bit easier for them. And I remember saying talking
to an arts audience and somebody saying, well, you know, actually,
the most useful thing you can do for me, I'm
a music promoter and I have sections make it not
so goddamn hard to get a lect a license for
a special concert that I'm putting on. And so we
responded to that, and so now the legislation that's coming

(51:47):
to be coming through will when it comes to a
large scale event, will increase it from four hundred people
to two thousand people before you have to go through
an event management plan and then we'll have you only
have to do it if it's based on a framework
and basically just try and take out some red tape
for people just trying to get a group of people together,
recognizing that when you listen to music having a party,

(52:08):
sometimes it's quite nice to have a beer.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Sometimes it is. Thank you, Paul, I appreciate it. Paul Goldsmith,
the Justice Minister. Twenty one away from six.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your
one of a kind.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
On the huddle with me At the moment we have
Stuart Nash, former Labor Party minister, and Clear the Lord journalists.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
What were you saying to you, I mean for good
and say, Goldie, grow some balls those gang patures, burn them,
bury them, blow them up, put them, says of acid.
Why wouldn't you just say that every kere we're apart
from gang members.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Once a sea, the Labour Party and the Labor Party, well, hey,
the vast.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Majority keeps in the cord to Poles. I want to
see those pictures done away with. So I would say, Goldie,
just put them in bats of acid and get rid
of them.

Speaker 20 (52:49):
A good campaignings to well, I know, but which party
would it be?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
New Zealand?

Speaker 8 (52:55):
Are you giving me an opportunity once again?

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Now, because you're totally biased, and because I know you're
just going to give us the New Zealand first line, potentially,
I'm going to go to you first clear. Do you
think you reform the Paris Agreement like David Semoll says,
or pull out? What if I'm a bit of an
old softy softy for what?

Speaker 20 (53:10):
Well, you know, I know that it's it's tough in
many ways, and it's possibly unattainable. I'd rather be failed
inside it than walked away from it. And the reason is,
I think Peter Gluckman alluded to it because I think
so many of our multilateral organizations are failing, and our
agreements of falling over international cooperation is less than it was.

(53:33):
I think we need more of it and we need
to stay. But would you be okay with reforming it?

Speaker 14 (53:37):
At least?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I think, Look, why not look at reforming it? Yeah?

Speaker 20 (53:41):
Yeah, but I would rather be stayed inside it. I
think walking away from it is yet another chink in
the even side front of the web.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Because because look, I mean, I think most of us
would agree we've got to try for the climate. But
even at the expense of Kiwis who now cannot heat
their houses when Huntley is fired up, Well it's home
raised incomes. Eh, that would be good. Okay, I suppose
we come in. We could also, you know, plant some
money trees or something like that that might help you.
Don't we could No, Actually, that's another conversation for another day.
What do you think to you? Look, I apologize.

Speaker 8 (54:13):
Look, this is about brand New Zealand.

Speaker 14 (54:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
We have a brand on the global stage which is clean, Green,
hunts and Pure. It started out as a tourism brand.
It's sort of morphed into our natural brand national brand.
If we walk away from this. I think it has
the risk of devaluing our global brand and everything that
New Zealanders or not everything that everyone oversees thinks that
New Zealanders. I mean I look behind you, Heather and

(54:35):
you for your listeners. There's a Bohoda charactory, a beautiful
beach and a fantastic scene. That is what oversees people
perceive that New Zealanders. We pull out of this, it's
just one other thing that slowly erodes that brand on
the global stage.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
And who's buying this brand.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
The people who are coming over, the tourists, the Golden
visa applicants.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
You know at the moment, what's pulling us out of
the recession, well farmer farmers And where are the farmers
selling their stuff but the US and China. So actually,
while we love this brand, I just want us to
test this.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Right.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
While we love this brand and we should love the
brand and we should protect it, actually our money is
coming from the two biggest pollution.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
But also remember that people pay a premium for New
Zealand products because the perception of what of where the
stuff comes from. You know, we're talking about cows frolicking
under the beautiful Mount Taranaki and all this sort of
carent You devalue that brand and you will not get
a premium.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
What about if if there is sufficient momentum pulling out
of the accord. Right, you've got the US out already,
what if more countries start piling into it and we're
a fast follower.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Well, look, Clea's talked about amending it. Let's look at
amending it before we pull.

Speaker 8 (55:42):
Out of it.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Obviously I wish I had the power, but clear, but
what if we have got sufficient momentum and people are
piling the countries are piling out of it.

Speaker 20 (55:51):
That they are not at the moment? The United States
notably has bailed out twice and some haven't. A very
few haven't signed up. I think it's really important to
try and stick together on some fronts. Even if we
fail somehow, I would rather that it stayed. Still makes
some very good points about New Zealand's international image. I

(56:11):
think also part of the international image is that we're
pretty good in multi letteral organizations. We're actually kind of reliable.
For New Zealand to walk away, I actually do think
that would be really noted, So I hope we don't Claire.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Do you think it's weird that Clark and Key are
at the China Summit.

Speaker 20 (56:29):
I don't think it's weird, but it is a weird
summit anyway. It's what it a summit. It's an eightieth
commemoration of the end of the war. I was at
the seventieth. My husband Don McKennon was invited to represent
New Zealand there. John Key and Helen Clark have been
invited in individual roles and so that's unusual. But Tony
Blair was there ten years ago as a personally invited

(56:52):
guest and that the interactions going on behind the scenes
as well as on the big viewing platform by a
Tenama Square were really fascinating.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Like the weirdest person you got to meet.

Speaker 20 (57:04):
Well, I wouldn't necessarily say weird, but most you know,
currently infamous person was Vladimir Putin Charming in real life
will just not really no, just quite cold.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Yeah yeah, well you would expect that after you've killed
so many people as an agent, right probably? Yeah. Well,
I mean the dynamics are really interesting. I was just
wondering if I put a target on my life, saying
that I don't think so, because I don't think you're
listening at the moment. There's a long list ahead of
you probably, but they're all narrow window somewhere I must go,
but I don't pull the blinds down, please.

Speaker 20 (57:35):
But it is a very interesting dynamic because ten years
ago there were a lot of countries and they're still
are today who would not send any senior people like
their presidents, prime ministers, whatever.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
For fear of being knocked off.

Speaker 20 (57:48):
No, because they didn't want to be seen to be endorsing,
you know, that regime, or to end up accidentally standing
next to Putin or whatever. I mean, how much has
changed in the last ten years. You've had the President
of the United States welcoming on a red carpet Vladimir
Putin to American soil, the.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Things that Trump has done. Maybe the weird thing isn't
actually that they're their stue, but the fact that none
of our government ministers have been invited and they have.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Well, yes, but the fact that you've got two very
high profile former prime ministers. We need to keep China
on side, there's no doubt about that. We saw what
happened with Australia two or three years ago when a
minor Australian official dissed the Chinese government. They said, like
a end of wine and lobsters from Australia to China.
I think this is a really good compromise. I mean,
as clean mentioned, we sent Sir Don mckinnanover a very

(58:34):
high profile and distinguished politician John Key and Helen Clark
being there.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
It's a very good look for New Zealand.

Speaker 20 (58:40):
I think the Chinese know they know all of this,
you know, the little dance that's going on, that they
have seen her enough people to preserve their manner and
for us to know that our relationship is going to
continue on a really good path.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Everyone. That's the game they're playing, all right, will take
a break. Come back shortly quarter.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Two the huddle with New Zealand South.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
He's International Realty, the global leader in luxury real estate.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Right, you're back with the huddle. Stuart Nashing cleared the
law stew What do you believe the story from the
Polish CEO about snatching the hat from the kid?

Speaker 8 (59:11):
I've seen that.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I think it's pretty bad. The thing is, he says,
I'll spur of the moment. I thought my kid's one
of these autographs, but that just shows you're going to
be careful in everything you do, right, because it's either
a camera or someone with a phone with a decent
camera on it that's taking advantage of.

Speaker 8 (59:27):
This is the second time we've seen this.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
We had the cold play, you know, kiss a shame
whatever they're calling it, And now you've got a camera
picking up a guy, a grown man, snatching a hat
off a little kid.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
I mean what I know, it's unbelievable. I mean that
is the lesson. Isn't it clear that it doesn't matter
what you how low profile you are, you can become
very high profile.

Speaker 20 (59:45):
I think the lesson is just to be a grown
up and to behave properly, whether the camera's on you
or not. Just actually think what would my.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Mother say if your mom could see it, if your
mother could see you. Now do you believe him when
he says that he didn't realize the boy wanted the
cap and it was meant for him.

Speaker 20 (01:00:00):
No, I don't, because you can quite clearly see the
little boy go oh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Which case the world's not. But whoever the pr person is,
fire them. The world's not going to believe this story,
So hasn't he probably just made the situation a whole
lot worse by lying.

Speaker 20 (01:00:12):
I don't know, but I just think, well, I can't decide.
We'll have to see, because you know, the kiss couple
went home for a couple of weeks and that took
a heavy toll on both of them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I think what I.

Speaker 20 (01:00:22):
Kind of do Sayma's favor is he has said sorry,
whether or not he's explained it poorly or falsely. I
think the pylon gets to be sort of disproportionate in
the end.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
YEP, that's fair.

Speaker 20 (01:00:35):
And I just think, you know, why is it that
we so enjoy someone being caught that we wanted to Yeah,
there will.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Be I don't know about that clear. I mean, I
think everyone who watched it, you know, they are ansed
of it. But they saw this grown guy snatch a
cap off a kid, perfect souven air, and they just went,
what did they kid?

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
He's got to go and see his mother. She probably
give him a good slid out. How do you feel,
stew about merging the public service to the extent that
the New Zealand Initiative recommends.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, that makes some really good points. Actually, there are
a whole lot of ministries that are being created in
an MMP environment to bring people in like, for example,
there was never a Minister of revenue before Michael cuhen
need to give something to Peter Done.

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
And now there's a Minister of revenue.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
And you know when I was a Minister of Economic Development,
I had space and I had advanced manufacturing. Now there's
a Minister for space. There's a Minister of Advanced manufacturing.
There's a Minister for South End. I mean, God help
us is going to end.

Speaker 20 (01:01:27):
I think Trevor to Clean was a Minister for Revenue,
ah many years ago.

Speaker 8 (01:01:31):
Oh my gosh, it's going back, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Yeah, because I remember maybe it went dormant and then
was revived.

Speaker 8 (01:01:36):
Because I was a Minister of Revenue as well. But
well there we go.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
But just there everywhere, just to align them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
But what is happening in MMP is you are getting
more and more Ministers of ABCD right through his head.

Speaker 20 (01:01:48):
Yeah yeah, Well I guess if you're going to have
a three headed coalition, everyone's going to want a little
slice of the action.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
So it's interesting.

Speaker 20 (01:01:54):
You know, maybe David Seymour could lead by example and
say okay, you know, let's just be the first cab
off the rank and I'll give up too, and let's
see if the others will match you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, but he's got that, Monty Pysi. Pythonis Minister of
Regulation to get rid of regulation.

Speaker 8 (01:02:09):
I mean if I.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Have, have you heard anything more absurd than a ministry
of regulation to get rid of regulation?

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
Doesn't what?

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
It makes sense? It is I I know I can
see that the that that is it's I can see
the humor in that particular thing, right, yeah, and I
feel like you you you laugh at that quite a
lot as well, might as you fall asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Well, next time there will be a two headed govern
and'll probably in New Zealand Fester National, So you know
you might have worry about this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Will it be in New Zealand firster and National or
will it be New Zealand first and Labor without Chippy?

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
To possible scenarios and if you roll.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Chippy to make this happen, who do you replace Chippy with?

Speaker 8 (01:02:41):
Barbara Edmonds?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Oh, come off, it's to you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
Very sensible woman. She was my Minister of advisor. She
knows how to get things done. Okay, maybe she's not
as polished as maybe Justinder is, but she's a hell
a lot better well, she's a better She's better in
the media than Chris Lackson.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Was she better than Karen?

Speaker 19 (01:02:57):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Kiaren is doing a justinda where he's he's pretending he
doesn't want to but he actually does.

Speaker 6 (01:03:02):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
I don't know. Karen's got quite a laconic way about him.
I don't know if.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
It just jeez, we've gone down a rabbit hole, but
there is a little rabbit hole going on here. I
don't want to be in that little hole. Okay, I'm
staying out of it. Okay, you stand your own hole.

Speaker 20 (01:03:16):
Well, in a hole, can I just say nobody leaps
out of the rabbit hole has been particularly attractive.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
It's the problem, guys. It's wonderful to talk to the
pair of you. Thank you so much, Stu Nash and
clear to lay huddle this evening eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Heither do you not remember interviewing the knee with scientists
back in June whose study revealed that the southern fieldland
forests are capturing more than three times New Zealand's total emissions,
which makes Powis basically a Ponzi scheme for all New Zealanders. Yes,
I do remember that. I do remember that, and I
think that as the facts. You know, sometimes facts that
are difficult, too difficult to kind of marry with your

(01:03:59):
worldview just get ignored. But these facts will emerge and immerging,
and then at some point I think that we will
be able to mount a fair argument to get out
of Paris. We're going to talk to the boss of
Amazon about that investments in the country. He's with us
after six o'clock. Now listen, remember this name, Thomas Sewell.
He is a neo Nazi living in Australia, born in
New Zealand, causing trouble in Australia. Was at that anti

(01:04:22):
immigration March for Australia in Melbourne on Sunday. Also was
part of that group that attacked an Aboriginal sovereignty camp.
He was one of the ones punching the people there.
Today he disrupted the press conference of the Victorian premiere,
just into Alan, why protest?

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
Why do you want to ban us for protesting?

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
So he turned up. He started shouting like that her
goons as he calls them, got kinnor in his way,
kept him away from her. She and whoever walked away.
He kept on going, Should.

Speaker 6 (01:04:50):
We have to write a speekon on touching the town
that your dudes attacked? Pique? You're a cow?

Speaker 12 (01:04:56):
Are we going to take this country back from politicians
like you?

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
He's just been a rested. I think he's been arrested
for that. I don't know what he's been arrested for.
I didn't see. I didn't see whether he was arrested
for punching people in the face, or being speaking at
the rally, or disrupting the press conference. I spect not
disrupting the press conference, because that's not illegal. But yeah,
he's been arrested. So anyway, that makes us proud, isn't it.
We'll go yay, look at how look at how well

(01:05:20):
Kiwis are doing in Australia. Okay, what have you got?
Libby gone? There fly my pressings? Bag of money. Now,
of all the bands, there's one other band. But of
all the bands that we've played you today, this is
the band I would go see at the Homegrown. I
traveled for this one. There's another one coming up. We

(01:05:41):
will She'll like, no, no, this is a tease. You'll
have to wait to hear the other one anyway, Boss
of Amazon.

Speaker 15 (01:05:47):
Next, an't you it's gone?

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
An't you it's gone?

Speaker 17 (01:05:57):
Who could it be?

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
What's up? What's down? What with a major course? And
how will it affect the economy?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
The big business questions on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy,
Ellen and MAS for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

Speaker 4 (01:06:15):
US talks be.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Even in coming up in the next hour. Paul Bloxham,
Ahspecies Chief Economists, is very excited about our trade numbers.
He's going to talk us through that. We've got Jamie
McKay standing by with his reckons on New Zealand pulling
out of the Climate Agreement, and then of course we've
got Endo Brady out of the UK. It's coming up
eight past six Now. Amazon has today unveiled its data centers.
It's committed to invest more than seven and a half

(01:06:40):
billion dollars in New Zealand. Manuel Bonnett is Amazon's Web
Services New Zealand country manager and with us Manuel, Hello, Hello, Hather,
what are you spending the seven and a half billion
dollars on?

Speaker 21 (01:06:51):
Well, we just announced the launch of our AWS Asia
Pacific New Zealand region and of course a big part
of the investment will be in this region. The region
is a luster of data centers, so as you would expect,
there is hardware, software, but also energy and people to
run these data centers.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Of course, Oh I see, So it's not seven and
a half billion for New Zealand. It's seven and a
half billion for Asia Pacific.

Speaker 21 (01:07:12):
No, no, it's seven and a half billion for New Zealand.
The region is here. We just call the region the
Asia Pacific New Zealand region, but it's the local region
as local as it gets.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Okay, And so this is just for running the data
seent Is that how much it costs to run them?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Is it?

Speaker 21 (01:07:26):
That's the investment. So it's hardware and software. We obviously
bring hardware, our own hardware to New Zealand, but we
also invest in software. And then we have operational costs
like the energy, the personnel, the people to run it.
So overall it's a big investment. And next to that,
next to the seven and a half billion that you mentioned,
we are also expecting to support a thousand new jobs

(01:07:49):
and we are really investing in building skills. So skills
are really important because next to technology, we really want
to make sure that we train and upskill the people
using it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
So I noticed that you guys had pledged seven and
a half billion dollars in twenty twenty one. Have you
already burned through that seven and a half and this
is another seven and a half?

Speaker 21 (01:08:07):
No, we are actually confirming that number. Right, So we
have now announced the region to be live nice of
many days.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
No, right, are you telling me this is the same
amount of money that you announced four years ago with
just and.

Speaker 21 (01:08:17):
Our don Yeah, we are confirming the number, and we
are announcing that now the infrastructure investment that we made
is live as of today, and that there is more
to come in terms of the jobs that we have
confirmed and also the skills investment that I just mentioned.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Okay, have you built any data centers?

Speaker 21 (01:08:38):
So a region is a cluster of data centers, and
of course we have chosen the locations that we choose
to build out our availability zones. The region consists of
multiple availability zones. We have three of these availability zones here,
and of course that involves data centers.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Cool and how many of these have you actually built
as opposed to renting or leasing?

Speaker 21 (01:09:00):
So we are choosing facilities based on the needs that
we have and we have thirty eight of these regions globally.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
So exactly what you're being worried about this though, aren't
you Manuel? Because you haven't built any avue.

Speaker 21 (01:09:12):
I'm telling you we'd show now the locations that are
the best looking.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
What happened? Why didn't you guys build it? It wasn't
that part of the announcement with just in the back
in twenty twenty one that you were going to build some.

Speaker 21 (01:09:21):
Well, we always take a long term view and as
part of that we look at all the options and
I'm super happy that we found the right locations for
the region to be live as of today.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Okay, what happened to the West Aalkland one where you
flattened it? You got rid of the wetland. Are you
going to build anything there?

Speaker 21 (01:09:37):
Well, I mean for now we are announcing that the
region is live, so the availability zones.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
At the Manue. I just need to tell you, mate, Listen.
This audience that listens to this is really smart and
they can hear you not answering the questions. So you
can keep on with that strategy if you want to.
But I need to warn you. We know you're not
answering my question I'm going to try it again. What
are you doing with the West Aalkland site? Are you
going to build anything there?

Speaker 21 (01:10:00):
I can't comment on the side. I'm basically I'm announcing
the launch of the region, and the side, as you
can tell, is not part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Okay, thanks mate, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Go well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Manuel Bonnette, New Zealand Country Manager, Amazon Web Services. Oh
my gosh, guys, how bummed out are you about this announcement?
I thought when I heard luxon on with Hosking this morning,
I thought this was awesome. I was like, Yay, seven
and a half billion dollars is the same money that
they announced with Jacinda just four years ago? And how
many what is this announcement of an announcement? And also
you should go check out the west Auckland site. Yeah,

(01:10:30):
they've smashed the thing down. There's nothing going up there.
Sounds like sounds like they haven't built a single data center.
They've basically gone and hired other people's data centers, which
is not really helping is it's not helping the situations
those data centers would have been there before anyway. Whatever.
Twelve away from.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Six Heather Do for CLIs on the business.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
With chief executives getting in trouble for things that they
are doing. The CE, the chief executive of NESLE, has
been sacked for having an affair with the junior colleague.
So apparently what they're saying is undisclosed romantic relationship with
a direct subordinate. Bummer is he's only been in the
job a year, so he's out real quick. Twelve past
six it's.

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Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Hither this is a re announcement there will be one
thousand long term jobs. No, yeah, I would agree with that. Listen,
got some information on dogs in Auckland which actually is
quite interesting. I'm going to get you into that shortly
and also creating we have to talk about. It's quarter
past six.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
The Rural Report on Heather Duplicy, Allen, j.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Kai, host of the Countries with us Lo Jamie good
Day here that do you think actors onto something here?

Speaker 14 (01:11:50):
Here?

Speaker 19 (01:11:50):
I do?

Speaker 11 (01:11:50):
Actually I didn't hear your chat with David Seymour just
after five, but I did have him on my show today.
I look, I think it's interesting he's changed his tune now,
but he's so saying Paris needs to change or New
Zealand le needs to leave. And this is very much
along the lines of what Winston and New Zealand First
are saying. And it does change a wee bit from

(01:12:11):
where he sat two or three months ago. Anyhow, on
my show he said, look, I said, should we stay
in Paris? And he said staying in will eventually prove
more expensive than the penalty for leaving. So he's really
gone one step further with that, saying New Zealand should
remain engaged with our trading partners, but only on terms

(01:12:31):
that make sense for US. Net zero targets have been
set without regard to the real cost for firms, farms
and families. Now, one guy in the Act Party who
I do really rate, and I've had a lot to
do with them over the years when he was the
president of Federated Farmers, Andrew Hogger. Don't be fooled by
the look of him. There's a very smart mind and

(01:12:52):
there and he probably knows more about climate change than
any other politician I know to be perfectly honest, and
he's saying ACT could look to countries like Uruguay that
have achieved sensible, science based differentiation of gas types. Beef
and LAMB have come out just with a press release
hot off the press saying both consist they support ACT.

(01:13:14):
They've consistently called for a split gas approach, you know,
so we're on target. They're saying, any how to meet
our twenty thirty targets, which aren't that great, only ten percent,
So pricing of AG admissions is not justified. Look, I
think the real game here is the pressure that New
Zealand First and Act together now will place on National
and coalition government.

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
Do you think that National can get And this is
going to be the interesting thing is that National has
to hold its line right. It has to say before
the election that it's not going to do anything here,
Otherwise it's going to freak out a whole bunch of
middle New Zealanders who can't be bothered taking the time
to actually think about this, and they're just going to
They're going to react to headlines. So it's really what
happens after the election. That is the interesting thing. Can

(01:13:55):
National kind of work this out between the coalition parties
if they if but if they adjust their position on methane.

Speaker 11 (01:14:03):
No, no, that might be a good question for Crystal
Luxe and I he'd have a lot of egg on
his face if he flip flopped or back flipped on
this one. He's been quite adamant that he we have
to stay in Paris's mate Miles Hurrell from Fonterra, another
very smart guy, probably you could call him the smartest
chief executive in New Zealand at the moment, saying we

(01:14:23):
just cannot afford to leave the Paris Agreement. We're going
to be hung out to dry in Europe. So look,
let the games begin.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Heather, Yeah, very interesting, very quickly. What do you make
of Open Country Dairy buying meat Auca.

Speaker 11 (01:14:36):
Great move. Look, Open Country is the second biggest supplier
obviously to Fonterra. Fonterra's got about just on eighty percent
of the milk. I think this gets Open Country up
to twelve thirteen or fourteen, remembering they bought Matara Valley
milk just outside of Gore only a couple of weeks
ago were announced it that deal took eight or nine

(01:14:57):
months to get sorted. This Maraka deal came together in
the space of two weeks and I think that the
telling comment because I think Maraka was under obviously financial pressure.
The chair Bruce Scott said there was significant challenges that
come with being a standalone regional processor operating at a

(01:15:17):
global market. It's all about the economy of scale and
for Open Country, they've got plants two in Wykato, one
in Wanganilli, Manaa Tu. This just plugs the middle of
the North Island nicely for them.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Nice hey, thank you very much. Jamie Jammy MacKaye, Hosts
of the Country. We've talked to you in a couple
of days. Okay, So what's going on with Auckland. We've
spoken a lot about this. It's actually it's actually outside
of Auckland as well. It's the dogs, right, the dogs problem,
which seems to be most pronounced. It would feel like
Northland has got the biggest problem with roaming dogs and
attacking dogs and then maybe Auckland, but it seems to

(01:15:50):
be wider than that. But Auckland Council is under real
pressure on this, so they're really on the front foot
and what they've announced today is that they have had
to deal with about it's a record. They've had to
impound ten thousand plus dogs, which is up hugely from
the previous year. And they have so many dogs and
so little space in the pounds, they've actually had to
put a whole bunch of them down, so about sixty

(01:16:10):
percent of them. So they've euthanized six thousand dogs in
the space of a year, which is a huge number. Anyway,
That good for them, and that is simply how it
has to keep going. Unfortunately that we've got to be
rough on this. But also what they've done, and I
think this is an interesting thing. What they've done is
they're called on central government to support councils with improved

(01:16:34):
regulation of desexing under the Dog Control Act. What they
basically want is to be able to win. They impound
a dog, desex the dog, and then give it back
to the owner. The implication there being the owner doesn't
get us a that your dog ends up in the pound.
When you get your dog back, your dog cannot have
babies anymore. Tough titties, you have to deal with that,
because what apparently has been going on is huge numbers

(01:16:55):
of Puppies, huge numbers of puppies turning up six to
twenty one, everything.

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Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
Talks d be Hey, looks like this is fascinating what's
going on in the UK. Looks like Keir Starmer is
undermining his own chancellor. So he's done it because because
remember his chancellor is Rachel Reeves, the one who's been
the one cried, the one who he almost sacked but
then then she cried, and then he couldn't sack her.
He'd really like to sack her. So what he's done
is he's done a little reset of his government and
he's brought in three economic experts to basically oversee her

(01:17:32):
while she puts together her budget for next month, which
is make or break her. How embarrassing is there anyway?
Inder Brady will talk us through it when he's with
us at six twenty four. Here's your Showbuz News. If
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You may have heard of a chomance. Have you heard
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busted purposefully engineering romance rumors to promote their new could
Gun reboot. Hollywood obviously isn't immune to this kind of stuff,
right There are rumors like a PR stunt relationship. There
are rumors that Tata is not really into what's his name,
and then Travis and it's or just a PR stunt.
And then you'll remember there was Kirsten Stewart and Robert
Pattinson who pretended that they didn't hate each other when

(01:18:16):
they were promoting Twilight, but Pam and Liam went way
further than necessary. Listen to how cozy they got during
the press tour.

Speaker 8 (01:18:23):
What's the silliest thing you've sent me?

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Do legal to talk about? All fake? None of it's real.
According to TMZ, they literally didn't interact once after filming
finished and before the press tour started. TMZ also said
the couple have never even had a one on one
dinner together, and everyone knows your relationship is not real
if you aren't going out to tea with each other.

(01:18:46):
How true is that? Right now? Creatine, I don't know
if you remember, but a week while ago I talked
about Creatine on the show about how the economists did
a piece about how creatine you need to take it
because it heals brain tissue and can actually help you
recover from a concussion and may even prevent Alzheimer's and
blah blah blah. Well there's a peace out today raving

(01:19:07):
about it again, basically saying if you're not taking creatine,
you need to be taking creatine, but especially if you're
a woman. Women or people who are fatigued should take it.
I mean, lord, bet, how much is this us. We're
fatigued women around menopause, in danger of losing muscle and
putting on fat. They should be taking it. Older men
should take it if they want to optimize body composition

(01:19:28):
whatever that means, have muscles. I suppose, even younger guys
who want to build their muscle, although a lot of
them have already heard of it and are already taking it.
There was a study, and this is if you don't
believe it, There was a study in twenty twenty four
on sleep deprivation that showed that a single high dose
of creatine monohydrate can boost cognitive function and processing speed,

(01:19:49):
and it may also ease jet lag and other circadian disruptions.
So do you know what I've done. I've written it
on my shopping list I've gone by, But don't buy
the gummies. Do not buy the gummies because I don't
know if you caught this story, but if you buy
the creatine gummies, there's a company that does the creatine
gummies who have been busted for not having any creatine
in them. And you don't want to be wasting your
money on that kind of stuff, So don't do that

(01:20:10):
at all. Just go and get the powders. Can I,
just because I've got a minute here, can I just
quickly give a shout out to Winston? Which is not
something that I would do on the show on the
regular because mostly, you know, we just get grumpy with
each other. But I think actually Winston deserves a bit
of praise for changing his mind on the foreign investors thing.
Changing your mind in politics is actually a really hard
thing to do, especially when you've gone hard on something,

(01:20:31):
and he went very hard on banning the foreign buyers.
To then create a loophole in that, or a carve
out or an adjustment or whatever you want to call it,
to do that is actually really hard to save face.
I mean, if you don't believe me. Look at look
at look at Gisinda and Grand and Chippy, and how
they can't even to this day admit they got anything
wrong in COVID, and they clearly did. Admitting you did
something wrong changing your mind is very, very hard. So

(01:20:52):
kudos to him for doing that. We'll all be grateful
for it. Later on. What have we got? Coraala blue
Eyed Maldi Enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
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The Business Hour with Heather due for c Allen and
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Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Talks that'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
This is the other band I would travel for. Who
is it?

Speaker 7 (01:21:37):
Stellar?

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Big sister of Big and Violent? How good was that?
Back in the day? They were great when she dropped
out of music and started making jewelry like Luis, She's
got a jewelry, But cheez, she was good at music,
wasn't she. Hey, listen really quickly. Bad news. If you're
getting your groceries delivered by Woolies, the delivery save a subscription.
This is the one where you pay the subscription and
then you get your groceries delivered. You don't have to pay,
you know, nine bucks a pop or whatever that price

(01:21:59):
is going up. Used to be for six months will
cost you less than one hundred and twenty. Now it's
going to cost you more than one hundred and thirty.
And the minimum that you have to buy has gone
up as well, so you can't just spend eighty, you
have to spend one hundred, all of which we go
well hoe By's groceries for less than one hundred dollars nowadays. Anyway,
twenty four away from seven. Now we've got some good
news for the economy today. Stats New Zealand has come

(01:22:21):
out with its latest trade data for New Zealand, and
our exporters have been going gangbusters. Exports were up nine
point nine percent in the year to June, imports up
three point two percent. Paul blockshim as ahspc's chief economist,
and with us A Paul, how good is that?

Speaker 12 (01:22:34):
It is good? It is a good story, and this is.

Speaker 22 (01:22:37):
One we've we've known about, but I think the numbers
today were even stronger than was expected in terms of
the rise in dairy prices and the boost that that's
giving to incomes. Also not just the price rises, but
also that the volumes were reasonably solid. So this is
one of the two elements of why we have thought
that the New Zealand economy is going to be in

(01:22:57):
an upswing, one is the dairy price is a high
and that's giving you a lift in the economy. And
the second is that interest rates have.

Speaker 12 (01:23:04):
Come down a long way.

Speaker 22 (01:23:05):
It's not yet quite fed through to a recovery in
consumption that's been really strong, but we think it's coming.
And so though this is one element, and the other
one is as interest rates have come down a long way.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
So can we say that the terms of trade have
beat expectations.

Speaker 22 (01:23:19):
Yes, I think that's fair and I certainly on today's
print it was stronger than the market had expected. And
so I think the terms of trade is a very
positive story for New Zealand. You've had a consistent boost
to incomes in the agricultural sector from the fact that
dairy prices are and meat prices actually are high, and

(01:23:39):
volumes have been fairly solid as well, and I think that's,
as I say, driving that sector. Now, it's only one
sector and it hasn't really flowed over to the rest
of the economy as yet. But I think most of
that it's a lag story. It takes time for it
to flow through, but I think it will get there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
I mean, it's three days ago we had more consumer
confidence numbers out that were down to a ten month low.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
How long before.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Consumers actually start to read this stuff, feel good about
it and feel confident again.

Speaker 22 (01:24:03):
Well, we also had the week before retail figures that
actually were a bit on the stronger side than the
market had expected. So I mean, I'm always a little
bit cautious about reading too much into sentiment indicators. You know,
we're you're effectively asking consumers how they feel. I tend
to put a bit more weight on actual spending indicators,
and the spending indicators have actually they have been they

(01:24:25):
have been okay, they have been solid, So I think
that's part of it. I think the other part of
it is that it's taking time. You know, this is
the thing. It takes monetary policy, interest rates act with
a lag on the economy. It takes time for it
to start to feed through and support the economy. And
I think it's perhaps the lags are a little bit
longer this time around, but I think it's still likely
to flow through to an upswing over time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
What are you expecting from Australian GDP tomorrow.

Speaker 22 (01:24:51):
We think GDP growth will print in the quarter at
a point six so point six quarter on quarter, that
would be a one point seven percent growth rate over
the year to pick up in pace from the past
couple of quarters. So last year, the economy in twenty
four grew by about one percent and now we're growing
we think at something like one point seven. So that's
an upswing, but only really a modest one. And I

(01:25:14):
think the main thing we're pointing out is that really
because productivity is so weak in Australia at the moment,
and the supply side there of the economy is therefore
so constrained. This is more this is the new normal,
that we can't really grow a whole lot faster than
this rate of growth unless we see a pickup in productivity.
The economy is already operating at its full capacity. We're
fully employed, and inflation is coming down, but it's not

(01:25:37):
quite at the midpoint of the RBA's target band, and
we're in a modest upswing. This is perhaps as good
as it gets.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Yeah, interesting, hey, Paul, thank you very much. And it's
interesting that everything that you've told us and predicted is
bearing out, So there we go, we should listen to
you more often. That's Paul Bloxham, ahsbc's chief economists Heather
Dupless Allen Heather. Oh, Heather, that neo Nazi is going
to be sent back to New Zealand does a five
oh one? Well, not sure, because I mean he's all like,

(01:26:02):
we're going to take our country back, and he's got
a thick Australian accent, so I'm kind of a I mean,
you're not really Australian, and I like he's weeing a lot,
like it's just describing himself as one of the Australians.
So I just wonder if he's got a passport, in
which case you can have him. You're welcome to him.
But he has the German looked it up for us,
and he has been arrested on account of the thing

(01:26:24):
that he did at the Indigenous Sovereignty camp where there
are photographs of him smashing people I think in the face.
I don't want to be defaming him. He has got
a wonderful reputation the neo Nazi, but I think I
think there was a photo of him smashing someone in
the face. I think that'll land you in the jail.
Won't it. Hither, I'm fifty two. I take ten grams
of creatina day five in the morning and five after
work out in the afternoon. Oh, after a workout. Sorry,

(01:26:47):
I wondered that on this after a workout. You've got
to take it before your workout, y'all. Just just a
heads up anyway, I swear about by it. It's good
for the muscles, but also my brain fog has gone
in the afternoon. It works for me. Here there on
your shopping list, underneath the creatina, add the laxatives, Thank
you Warren. Here the ugly face is the best creatine
to take. Hither the Creatine grummies gummies that got busted
with the push gummies. I take the clean Fuel gummies

(01:27:10):
and they have had rigorous testing and continue to do
random testing of batches and I can highly recommend. As
a woman, mother and jim athlete, you will not look back.
Benefits are amazing. Creatine monohydrate is what you're looking for.
Thanks girls, thanks for helping me out. Listen, when you've
got a baby under the age of eight months, I
feel like you know you can take all of the
powders are good for you, except for the illegal ones.

(01:27:30):
Obviously you just want to stick to the legals, like
this is what this is the difference here. My friends
are like, oh, let's go out and take some drugs.
I'm like, mmm, no, I'm just gonna take my creatine
and stay home. And that's a happy day for me.
None of my friends doo drugs. So that was just
an imaginary story anyway, So we've got it. Listen. Got
to talk about what's going on in Wellington with the
Oriental Parade band Rotunda. Have you seen this? This thing

(01:27:53):
has been If you've been to Wellington, you know what
I'm talking about. Is you come in along the bays
there into the city, there's at the bottom of Hay
Street there's that beautiful old band retunder that would have
been built in the nineteen thirties or something. It's just
gone just go to Rack and Ruin and they have
for the longest time now been talking about doing it
up and doing something jazzy with it. Well, finally we've
got the kind of concept of it and I am

(01:28:13):
here for it. When if I ever lose my mind
and decide that I need to move back to Wellington,
I am moving back for the band Retunder. So what
they've got is they've got first of all, Ben Bailey
on board winning. Ben is the guy behind the Auckland
restaurant Ahi. He's also the guy behind the bath House
in Queenstown which man alive the bath House what a
good time. Go get yourself a shrimp cocktail there. The

(01:28:36):
new hospitality offering at the band Rotunda is going to
have five hundred and sixty square meters of casual eatery
with balcony dining. Better put up some walls. I think
it's Wellington. There will be a garage project, be a
bar there will be, and there will be a two
hundred and twenty square meter rooftop bar and terrace. That's
where they've got to put the walls up, because I mean,
it's a nice idea to have a rooftop. But it

(01:28:56):
is Wellington, which will have the harbor views and stuff.
There'll be a street front food kiosk with public seating
and public facilities including showers. Now, the food kiosk is
an absolute banger of an idea because you and I
used to live with a view of Oriental Parade when
I was in Wellington, and I just sit out there
and watch people walk out and the number of people
promenading is out the gate, and so you would just

(01:29:18):
have people. If you have good food on offer, people
will just be constantly and they're buying food. But also
the other thing that I can I just use this
as an opportunity to tell you how much I love
what Ben Bailey has done in west Auckland. So they've
got this, they've got this set. If you've got kids
under the age of I want to say, like fourteen ish,
thirteen ish, you want to go to Woe's studios. My

(01:29:38):
boss Jason put me onto it because he's got the
young ones. He says, you got to take the boy
to Woe's studios. They've got the most epic playground and
they do the most epic climy like spiderweby thing. And
then they've got a little like Pirate never mind that stuff,
Pirate ship and like, you know whatever, but it's the
spiderweb climy thing. Awesome. You stick them in there. Then

(01:29:58):
you go sit in Ben Bailey's restaurant with a view
of the art. You can sit there watching the kids,
and you can have delicious food. Why is there not
of that? There's not enough of that in this country?
Where parents can sit down and have good food and
then watch the children play. Happy Days, Ben Bailey, What
a legend, sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
It's hither due for Sea Ellen with the Business Hour
and Mas for Trust at Home Insurance Solutions with the
news talks.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
That'd be Heather.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Me and my girlfriends have been saying this for years.
We're somewhere we could go with the kids while the
kids go nuts and we chill out with yummy eats.
New Zealand or so behind on the stuff. Look, I
don't know. I haven't had children in another country, so
I don't know if we're behind on this stuff. But
we definitely don't have enough of this stuff. And I'll
tell you what, if somebody's got a good idea, I
reckon put it out for an IPO, We'll chuck some
money at it, because I tell you what if you

(01:30:49):
start rolling out some kid friendly some well let's say
adult friendly prey playgrounds or kid friendly eateries, I reckon,
I reckon there'd be dollars in that. So we love
having the babies. Thirteen away from seven into Brady UK
correspondence with us.

Speaker 12 (01:31:03):
Hello, Inda, Hey, Heather, good to speak to you again.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
So do you think the Prime Minister is undermining Rachel Reeves?

Speaker 12 (01:31:10):
Look, I think he had to do something because the
agenda is not being set by him, and the feeling
was that while he's being the international statesman and traveling
around and seeing Trump and meeting Zelenski and doing all
the kind of stuff that formerly big name British prime
ministers used to do, the domestic agenda has been neglected.
And I think that is a reflection in everything we've

(01:31:32):
seen in the last twelve to twenty four hours. He's
not undermining her. I think it's just he's fighting for
his own corner because the agenda is being set by
Nigel Faraj and Starmer absolutely has to stop that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
But how could I mean, she must feel undermined if
you're going to have three economic advisors come in and
what she do the budget. That hardly says a lot
about the confidence the Prime minister has in you, does it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:31:57):
Look, we need growth, that's the first thing here. Every
prime minister comes in saying we will grow the economy.
I can do all the voices of the last ten
prime ministers the same speech. It never seems to happen.
And look, they thought they were onto a winner, having
a politician who had worked in the Bank of England.
It's not working out. The economy is flatlining. I think

(01:32:17):
the real issue at the heart of this government is
communication starmar. This has gone under the radar. Yesterday they
actually booted out their head of Strategic comes, James Lyons,
out of Downing Street. Yesterday he's out. Another guy's coming in.
It's a communication issue at the heart of this government.
And look, I often get asked to advise politicians, governments

(01:32:38):
and big business about communication, and it is I always
say to them when we start off, it's six words.
Know your audience, know your message. And I don't think
Starmer knows either at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Yeah, good point. And speaking of reform, I mean reforms
running rings around them on the migrants, aren't they.

Speaker 12 (01:32:56):
Yes, And a new policy today to try and start
making some inrow on this. So as it stands, anyone
who's granted asylum in the UK can immediately put in
for family members to come join them. And this has
been happening over and over again. Forty one thousand people
applied for asylum here in the last twelve months under
Starmer's watch as Prime Minister, and as it stands right now,

(01:33:19):
those people can all say I've got a partner, we've
got children, my mother needs help, all come to the UK.
So the system is clearly being exploited. So what they're
doing now is a temporary ban on family members coming
to the UK while they look at making permanent legislation.
They're also going to look at the whole issue of
student visas because a lot of people are coming here

(01:33:42):
in a student visa from countries like Nigeria and Pakistan
with no intention of going back.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Interesting, now, do you think you're going to see the
Northern Lights? Finally?

Speaker 12 (01:33:53):
I do hope so, because they've spent an awful lot
of money and an awful lot of time traveling to
the Arctic over the last decade and a half to
try and see them. I've been to northern Sweden twice.
I've been to Norway Northern Norway twice, I've been to Iceland.
On every single occasion i've gone to see the Northern Lights,
I've had someone say, oh, it's a bad week to

(01:34:13):
see the lights and it hasn't happened. So would you
believe it? They popped up in England last night. I
kid you not see North Yorkshire. No, we live in
Oxfordshire and I was inside watching soccer on TV. So tonight,
tonight I'm gonna I'm gonna absolutely make sure I go
for a little jog or a walk or something as

(01:34:34):
soon as the sun goes down. Apparently there has been
a geomagnetic storm that will affect our weather system tonight
and the Northern Lights could be visible in the south
of England.

Speaker 8 (01:34:46):
So watch this.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Space and you know, look through your phone. Put your
phone up and look through it. It makes it. It
makes a bit like it's not it's not. It's not.
It's not like a modern thing, like a modern joke.
It actually you can see it bit of that way.

Speaker 12 (01:35:00):
Oh well, look I'm excited, boss. It just goes to
show you that, you know, some things are meant to be.
I'm told they look stunning, they look amazing. Let's see.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
I'll have to see it to believe it. Thank you,
and to look after yourself and best the like of that.
That's into Brady, our UK correspondent. Hey, by the way,
get a load of this. We're gonna have to. This
is just a quick thing about how we're gonna have
to spend a lot of money on infrastructure because of
the climate change, because our stuff is getting old. At
the moment. On the state highway network, we have thirty
nine bridges that are already one hundred years old. In

(01:35:33):
five years that thirty nine is going to become two
hundred and sixty bridges that are already one hundred years old.
And by twenty thirty nine, So that's what fourteen years
from no fivendred from now five hundred bridges over one
hundred years old. It's going to cost us a fair
chunk of change. Eight away from.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Seven, it's the Heather Too per se Alan Drive Full
Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZEBBI.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Heather, how old is the tay Rua Bridge? How old
is the Tyrua Bridge? This is the bridge of the Coramandel.
It's like, I don't know if you know this, if
you've ever gone to the Coramandel, but there it is.
It's basically the thing that ruins everybody's holiday is the
Tyrua Bridge because in order to get up the east
coast of that peninsula, you have to go through Tyroe.

(01:36:20):
You come down the mountain pass power Enui's turn off,
go through Tyru and then you go all the way
up and then you you're into it, you know, and
you're going up to fitsy, younger and middle atone you
know whatever. But that bridge is a one way bridge,
and so it's a pinch point and you could be
stuck there for hours. How old is it? However old
it is, it's definitely old enough to replace, don't you think,
because wow, by the way, just because you know, you

(01:36:42):
got to get their traffic flowing, don't you for the
holiday makers. I don't know if you're aware of this,
but there was a big scandal at Venice at the
film festival. Julia Robertson Amanda sea Free turn up in
exactly the same outfit. However, it is not as bad
as it sounds, because they actually did it deliberately. They
first first time Julia wore it, it was a blue wall blazer,
great leg denim, big gold buckle, bolt striped shirt underneath

(01:37:03):
it woven shoes in a leather bag. And then a
few days later Amanda turned up in exactly the same outfit,
and then she posted online that in fact she had
borrowed Julia's clothes and she'd done it to make a
point about sustainability, about not throwing your clothes away and
just wearing them once but recycling them. Fortunately, we have
confirmed that they wore them. She wore them like enough
days away from when Julia wore it. To get it

(01:37:25):
to the dry cleaners and get dry clean the armpits.

Speaker 23 (01:37:27):
And hopefully not just the Armpits's could point cool it
down by Coterie to play us out tonight? Well, last
song from the Homegrown lineup a reminder Homegrown is happening
in Hamilton at Claudland's Oval on March fourteenth next year.
And there were tons of other stuff we could. We
didn't have time for blind Spot, Devil Skin. Do we
play Corrella? I think we did State of Mind Devil Skin?

Speaker 1 (01:37:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Are think the ones that were a bit like Emo?

Speaker 23 (01:37:54):
They're more metal than Emo? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah
so yeah, and I imagine blind Spot'll be doing a
bit more than metal stuff, so they're the rocky Do
we finally six sixty today as well?

Speaker 6 (01:38:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
We did?

Speaker 23 (01:38:03):
Okay, cool? Yeah your favorite and yeah, y sure there
as well? Yep, all star lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
We don't hate sex? Sexty do I hate sex?

Speaker 4 (01:38:10):
Sexty.

Speaker 23 (01:38:11):
You and me have went through a thing where we
were both like, yes, we both hate six sexty. I
still do, but yeah, just.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
Just a bit kind of like my great that like
good that it's a comp I have a complicated relationship
with sex sexty, like I do with each hearing, like
I respeat what you're doing, but I also am so
black by it. Anyway, See you tomorrow.

Speaker 24 (01:38:30):
Down down down, down down down, pull it down down down.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
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