Full Show Podcast: 04 December 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Depressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
d for Cellen Drive with one New Zealand to coverage
like no one else new sorgs that be good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Welcome to the show coming up today Fullsith bar on
just how much of the retail market Ikea will take,
the PPTA on the secondary teachers reaching a deal with
the government, and former cricketer Richard Petrie on his concerns
about the proposed T twenty league for ever do for
c ellen Well. So, after years of waiting, finally Ikea
has opened and in the end it was actually a

(00:34):
little bit of a phisic this morning. None of the
traffic snarlups that were predicted on the signs above the
Auckland motorways actually eventuated. The thousands of people who were
supposed to be queuing out the door actually didn't turn up.
It was a few hundred people queuing this morning. It
did not take an hour to find a car park.
In forty minutes to get out of the car park,
the car park was actually a little bit empty. Probably

(00:54):
what happened actually is not that people weren't enthusiastic. I
think people are enthusiastic. But what I think happened is
that we do what we do best. We just got
logical delayed the trip to a day that would be
maybe later this week, maybe later this month, not predicted
to be pandemonium like today. If there is something to
criticize here, it may actually be the media might've got
a wee bit loopy over Ikea with all of the predictions.

(01:16):
And I saw three separate live blogs running on news
websites today and in the stories after stories after stories
about absolutely everything you could possibly do, stories about we
got a little bit carried away in the media, I think.
But having said that, Ikea is actually a fantastic economic
news story for New Zealand. Ten years ago, we did
not have all the retailers that we do now. We

(01:38):
did not have Zara, we did not have H and M,
David Jones, Costco, Ikia. The fact that these globally popular
retailers have come here in the last decade as an
indication of our relative prosperity and the fact that we
have got money to spend, and that can only be
a good thing. I don't love that Ikia sends our
money overseas, but I love that we have a choice,

(01:59):
and I love that there are jobs that are being
created by IQ, and I love the competition it's creating
because let's be honest, for a very very long time,
it has improved lately, but for a very long time,
our home we're offerings in that middle price range have
been overpriced and really actually quite boring. So, without getting
ridiculously cringey about the IKA opening today, the opening is

(02:21):
a good story. It's a very good story for New Zealand.
Hopefully it's the first of many stores, many more jobs,
and much more National Wealth.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Ever dup c Ellen.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Nineteen nineteen is to text. Understandard text fees apply. Now.
Government's doing a little bit of a shakeup of the
rules for retirement villages. The changes include that village operators
will have to repay residents within a year of their
unit being vacated. Up to now, there was no deadline
at all. Around sixty three thousand New Zealanders currently live
in retirement villages, and Council spokesperson Carol Shepherd is with

(02:55):
us hig Carol, Hello, Heather, how are you going. I'm
very well, thank you, I should say you're from the
time in villages Residence council. Now the twelve month deadline
for getting your money back to you. Do you like that?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, let's say that everybody wants their money back as
soon as absolutely possible, but to be realistic and pragmatic,
we wanted some definition, some definite time frame about when
we could get our money back, and twelve months seems
to be a logical timeframe. Apparently about eighty nine percent
of retirement village villas are re licensed within a nine

(03:28):
month period. That was the kind of the latest research
that was used when we prepared our submission a couple
of years ago. And the twelve months then also gives
operators time to look at their financial modeling and how
that might fit with what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Carol, it does seem an extraordinary amount of time. I mean,
that is far too long for anybody to be getting
any money out of the primary residence that they are in.
Why is it so long?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I've lost you?

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Can you hear me? Now?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (03:58):
I can?

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Yes, you come back.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay, I was saying, Carol, is twelve months is a
very long time to get your money out of Basically,
what is your house? Why does it have to be
that long?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well, Heather, if we were out of the open marketplace
selling our homes. Any length of time can happen, and
in the market recently, some people have waited a reasonable
amount of time to be able to sell their homes.
It's the same thing in the retirement the libe sector.
It takes a reasonable amount of time for the unit
to be refurbished and then to be re licensed, and
the operators currently are waiting until it's re licensed before

(04:31):
they met the final financial payment.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Can I ask you something though than that? Yeah, But
I mean in the private market it's jeez. At the moment,
obviously the market's a bit rubbish, so it might take
you twelve months to sell your house, but generally it
doesn't take you that long at all. And then the
other thing to consider as well is that you know
you have we're getting numbers and we just had them.
I think earlier this week that we're getting this massive

(04:54):
crunch coming up where there will be so many people
trying to get into residences and so few available. So
I can't help but feel that these villages are ripping
you guys off by hanging on to your money for
twelve months.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
I don't think that that every single person is going
to have their money held onto for twelve months. Come on,
let's let's kind of.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Get real here.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Many of them are re licensed long before that twelve
month period. But this has been an open ended situation,
and every resident is saying, I just want some as surety,
assurance and some security that I know when I'm going
to get my money, whether it's going to my estate,
whether it's going for my aged care, whether it's going
to my family.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Okay, now, in some cases obviously.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
Haven't any assurance.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
It's been an open end.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I mean, I suppose twelve months is better than the
state than what it was up to Now, there is
obviously the opportunity for former residents to get early access
to funds if they have specific need. What would what
would qualify for that?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
So if someone, for instance, had a dire situation where
they needed to go into aged care immediately and there
wasn't any aged care available immediately available that they had
to pay for, then they could have an opportunity to say, look,
can we have our money sooner than that? Or it
could be a dire family situation where they're depending and

(06:12):
relying on the inheritance that they're going to get from
there from the estate and they need that money sooner.
So there is hardship classes in there, both for operators
and for residents.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, brilliant. Hey listen, Carol, as always, thank you so
much for your time. That's Carol Shepherd, spokesperson for the
Retirement Village's Residence Council. Hither, I'm waiting for Unicloe to
come here. I'm from Malaysia. Winter wear is very nice.
Now Uniclo. I'm not familiar with Uniclo, but I have
a friend who just any opportunity you mentioned the word

(06:45):
Uniclo and you'll just get Rave reviews goes to Melbourne
stocks up on the unicloth So that is another apparently
another global retailer. We absolutely have to get the money from. Now,
get the money from. What am I talking about? Give
them money too?

Speaker 6 (06:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
I don't know if you're aware of this, but there is.
It's quite a thing that's blowing up with the T
twenty proposal. Open letters been written by some former cricketers
and it's not going down very well. Let's get Darcy
here and we'll talk through it next right now, coming
up fourteen away or fourteen past four.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
It's the heather d Pussy Allen Drive Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (07:20):
Heither if you buy the village unit from the village,
when you no longer use it, you sell it back
to the village and they sell it to the next person.
This should be an instant transaction. This is ridiculous. That's
from Mike. Heather, calm down, breathe through your nose. When
you sign up for a retirement village, you must have
independent legal advice in the terms are very clear. That's
from Joanne. Thank you both.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
Seventeen past four Sport with tab bed Live with in
play R eighteen The Responsibly.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Darcy water Grave sports stalk hosters with me Elodes.

Speaker 9 (07:46):
Greetings, Heather, greetings, greetings, before we start looking at the
sports going on right here, right now, R eighteen bet
responsibly tab pushed to the weekend's a massive game. Excuse me,
frog in my throat coming up over the weekend. It's
the Derby in the eight We didn't want me coughing
in your ear, did you.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Of course it's strange, aren't you.

Speaker 10 (08:09):
No, I'm not strange.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'm just being me.

Speaker 10 (08:11):
I'm being authentic. That's the word.

Speaker 9 (08:13):
I'm being authentic.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
There you go.

Speaker 9 (08:15):
So you see one of them, Phoenix, they are playing
each other in the derby. Something that Phoenix have had
no lucking. That's reflected in the odds five dollars eighty.
They've got to turn this around eventually, Surely Aukland at
home paying a dollar fifty two the drawers for dollars ten,
you might better find some value in there. But I
like this one a halftime lead and then go on

(08:36):
to lose, so you get ahead. And then you saw
your bed sheets in the second forty five and Auckland
of paying twelve dollars to do that and wanting Tom
to paying ten dollars. I kind of like that from
a sick point of view, you know, watching someone come
from a position of strength to be brought to their
knees and lose. So that's where I'm going. As long
as you're over eighteen, you bet responsibly get into.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
It, Heather.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I did get asked earlier on a text earlier this
week if your multi came.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
In No, no.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Of course, how us your multi did come in will
be a day that I think we will be absolutely this.

Speaker 9 (09:13):
Is not this is a bit of fun on money
you can afford to lose. It's not an investment.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
This is ok it does Now you've read the open
letter slamming the tea tweeting.

Speaker 9 (09:23):
I'm interested in the context of that letter because I've
been sent to me as well around the some of
the statements in it and whether they are necessarily true
or not and where they come from. Now I'm not
on either side of this fence. It doesn't bother me

(09:44):
either way. I'm for the good of New Zealand cricket plainly.
And then you look at this.

Speaker 10 (09:48):
They've made some pretty big statements around.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
What's happening, especially with Don McKinnon who's running it from
one side, and looking at what may happen come the
series against Australia at the start of next year or
a year after that round the Test series that might
have to be kai boshed if indeed they run with
this so called rebel league. So there are still some

(10:12):
gray areas, there's still some flab to be pushed.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So okay, I'm interested hearing where actually goes the salient
points from the letter. This is a letter that's been
signed by a bunch of former players, Richard P. Tree,
Vaughan Brown, Richard Reid, Richard Jones, Mark Haslan Blah blah
blah goes on, Deepak Pattel, and the letter alleges that
Stephen Fleming, Heath Mills, Don McKinnon, David Howman and the

(10:35):
consortium have conducted a covert campaign to basically try to
get the T twenty going. That they have sworn everybody
to secrecy, and in particular they've accused Don McKinnon of
being conflicted in that apparently in the kind of attempting
alleged attempting to get Scott Wennick out of the role
as the chief executive of New Zealand Cricket in that

(10:57):
the person who would complain to would be Don McKinnon,
who they are accusing of trying to get him out
of the job. Right, So there's quite a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
In this, There is a lot.

Speaker 9 (11:07):
I've got a response from ENNZ to twenty spokesperson says
mister McKinnon has never presented to any of the players
all major associations about the NZED twenty league, save on
one occasion when n ZED twenty met with the major
associations with two z seed directors. Any suggestions that anyone
has been sworn to secrecy it's false and a slur

(11:28):
on the character of those involved. So they've punched back.
This could get quite brutal, that he said, she said,
but we will see in the in the wonder of
the wonder of time, something will follow that. But it
is its shaping to be quite the slugfest, isn't it, Especially.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
If it really is. I might have to come back
to this and just to take tell me what's happening
in the cricket, the actual cricket.

Speaker 10 (11:50):
It's going so well. Tom Latham scored another time. He's
on one hundred and thirteen. It's taking them a while,
one hundred.

Speaker 9 (11:55):
And ninety four deliveries and ravishing Rick Ravendra eight seven
off ninety two. So it is a massive partnership. Now
they're two sixty three for the loss of it too.
They lead by three hundred and twenty seven. Looks like
a be beautiful day in christ Church, the Garden City,
the city that Chinese Tatar HiT's got several names. So Ravendra,

(12:16):
who's had a nasty habit recently of getting to fifty
odd and then giving it the Stephen Fleming and being dismissed.
He's pushed on thirteen away now from a ton bit.
Latham has got over top of that as well. Remember
he's got to take the gloves as well because Blundle's out.
He's done a hamstring. So a lot of work for
Latham to deal with up the order and keeping and

(12:37):
being a skipper.

Speaker 11 (12:37):
Good stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Hey, thank you very much, Darcy. That's Darcy wadgrav SportsTalk host.
He'll be back at seven. And actually there's one more
point in that letter that I haven't addressed, which I
will get you across because it's actually got to do
with what happens on field for twenty two your home
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Speaker 2 (13:44):
Remember I was telling you that the black market tobaccy
in Australia is becoming a huge problem. Murray Olds has
got a little bit of update on that when he's
with us shortly. Okay, So this is the part of
the Leaster slamming the proposed T twenty league that deals
with what happens on the field. It says the league
requires all players and that includes the twenty centrally contracted
players black Caps, to be one hundred percent available for

(14:06):
the January window of the T twenty competition, which would
start in January twenty twenty seven. This would mean the
New Zealand Test Series v Australia in December, and January
is twenty six and January twenty seven is in jeopardy
because the fourth Test is scheduled for the first week
of January twenty twenty seven. Anyway, I'm told, look, I
don't know if you've been following what's been going on
and going on in cricket, but we have for a
very long time been talking about the fact that we

(14:27):
have to carve out windows for domestic cricket. So that
is not a bad thing to carve it out and
have the best players that you have in the country
playing your domestic cricket. Yes, this will clash with a
big backlash league over in Australia, but that's a good
thing because it means we keep our guys that don't
go to the South African league that I don't go
to the Aussie league they play here in New Zealand.
And yes it will clash with that particular test, but

(14:49):
in the future, and I don't know how they get
around that, but in the future, you just schedule the
tests around it. You schedule the window around the test,
so you know it should be absolutely doable. This is
durable stuff. I would have thought. Anyway, we're going to
talk to Richard Petree. It's very upset about it. After
half past five, I've got good news for you on
the teachers strike. The secondary teacher strikes are over. They've
accepted the pay deals to just come out this afternoon.

(15:11):
Two pay arises totaling four point six percent over two years.
But as I warned you, unfortunately the teacher has teachers
have fought very very hard to keep doing their teacher
only days during the school term instead of you know,
teaching the kids during the school term. Chris Abercrombie of
the PPTA will be with us after five o'clock. News

(15:31):
is next.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
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Drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite
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see those.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
And this is Chris Raa, isn't it is Christrea?

Speaker 14 (16:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I love Chris Rea. I never thought that I would
ever have to admit at my age, which is like
I'm very very very early forties, very early forties. I
would never have thought I would admit to you on
air that I love Chrisraa, but I am forced into
this position and I will explain that to you later on.
But boy do I apparently love Chris Rea very very much, Maria,
I mean or couple king. He's gonna find out tomorrow

(16:23):
she's going to be back in the Malory Party or not.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but she
took this to court today in Wellington. She argues she
should be back in John palmerheaded should be removed as
the party president. There will be a bigger hearing on this,
a proper hearing, a substantive hearing, very early February. But
for now it's just a temporary thing. She finds out tomorrow.
Barry Soper, I'm sure is just dying, just dying to

(16:44):
talk about more Malori Party shenanigans when he's with us shortly.
It's right now, twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
It's the world wires on News Talks, Eddy Drive.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
So the EU has proposed using frozen Russian assets to
help Ukraine and its war efforts. The idea is to
use the assets to back alone to Ukraine that will
support the country for the next couple of years, but Belgium,
which holds most of the frozen assets, is worried about
the legal and financial risks.

Speaker 15 (17:08):
Or concerns are being don't plead the text the Commission
will table today, do not address or concerns in a
satisfactory manner. It is not acceptable to use the money
and leave us alone.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
The US War Secretary Pete haig Seth is washing his
hands of responsibility for the second strike on a suspected
drug vote in the Caribbean. He says he had stopped
watching the live feed of the boat before the second
strike was ordered. Donald Trump isn't too bothered.

Speaker 10 (17:39):
I think you're going to find that this is war,
that these people were killing our people.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
And finally, scientists in California reckon they might have found
evidence of the UFOs. Of course they have. They've been
examining old photographs from the nineteen fifties and they found
a lot of weird lights in the sky and that
match up. These lights matchups reported you with those sightings.
Now it might not be aliens. Some of the lights

(18:07):
in the sky are also quite close to nuclear test sites.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
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Speaker 2 (18:18):
Old's Oussie correspondents with us right now.

Speaker 10 (18:19):
Hello, ms, very good afternoon here though, right so.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
You're going to be forced to keep your gas on shore.

Speaker 14 (18:25):
As we boody well should wa. Western Australia has had
it's called a gas reservation policy, which is a hell
of a big way to say we're going to keep
some gas here in Australia and exported all up to Asia.
Were almost all to Asia. And the federal governors now
set to follow the lead set by Western Australia probably
nearly twenty years ago. That's how long this goes back

(18:47):
head knowing at federal level had the foresight to think
that's got a bad idea. And so what we've seen
here gas is the only transition fuel available to wean
industries off all fired power and onto renewables. We've discussed
coal fired power before. All the assets are running out
of life, the biggest one in Australia has been propped

(19:09):
up to the tune of for said two hundred million dollars.
Tax players are paying that in New South Wales to
keep this old, this old bem off still chugging along
for the next two years but coal is on the
way out now, guess is the only transition fuel. As
I said, the opposition took a similar policy to the
last election, but label was criticizing it. Oh, it's terrible,

(19:30):
it's terrible. Now apparent it's a great idea. Gas prices
have tripled here in the last decade as coal fired
plants get a lot older. And guess what is being exported.
The whole line of is exported. So now the government
is saying we're not in so many words yet this
has just been a story floated in the media today.
But governments are propping up industries without money, industries like

(19:51):
steel and aluminium, to keep jobs in the remote areas.
Keep some industry at home. What's upon? And don't we
make cars? You're not anymore? And politically, of course, the
opposition's bashing labor over high power prices. Election promises are
going to cut costs, the need to save jobs. It's
a mess. But the linement, the short of it, looks
to be that the gas exporting companies are going to

(20:12):
be told you must keep fifteen twenty twenty five percent
of the gas you're getting out of the ground. You
must keep that for the domestic market here in Australia,
and if you don't, we're going to belch you. So
we just have to wait and see which way the
MOP flops on this, but we expect to announcement next week.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Very interesting now the black market tobacco is becoming quite
a problem with you.

Speaker 14 (20:31):
People own absolutely. Here's some stats free of sales of
legal tobacco. That's the stuff that you know, we're allowed
to buy that's collapsed. Almost thirty percent collapse in the
last year to September, one third the size it was
three years ago. Now, if you spend fifty bucks in
a packet of cigarettes over here, twenty cigarettes, about thirty

(20:53):
five forty dollars of it is actually tax that goes
to the government. Here's the thing edit on the black mark.
A packet in Durries can be bought for ten or
twelve dollars. So the government tax takers down dramatically seven
billion this year. It was more than double that just
five years ago. And the other metric relates to health

(21:14):
today and I hadn't even thought of this. The tax
was devised according to governments back in the day to
discourage smoking. Let's tax this product to make it every
more expensive. Well, here's the thing. The sales legal tobacco
were dramatically down. Black market sales with the roof state
governments are saying, listen, common web government count the exercise.
We'll get rid of the criminals. They're all shooting each

(21:34):
other and fire bombing each other's shops. I don't think
anyone's died yet, but it's only a question of time
because they must have.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
You have you stopped to think about how nutty this is.
They are fire bombing shots shops over illegal tobacco, for
God's sake.

Speaker 14 (21:50):
I know that's nuts, right, it.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Really is.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah, MOUs listen, thanks very much for bringing us up
to speed on that. You have yourself a nice day.
That's Murray Old Australia correspondent, nineteen away from five Heather
du for see Allen, respectfully, Heather, you keep talking about
teachers fighting hard to keep their teacher only days during
term time, and what other profession to employees attend professional
development during their annual leave? Well, respectfully, Sarah, and one
other profession do you get three months and you'll leave

(22:19):
three months and you'll leave, which we keep getting told
is not annual leave, but actually teachers are working very hard.
Veil might have just slipped there a wee bit. Now
I have an update for you, because you know I've
been harping on, having a harping on, harping on about
how much in New Zealand sucks and how late they are,
and now I'm a huge convert to the jet Star.

(22:41):
Well today is Today's a big day. Today was the
day that I caught the Orange Bird for the first
time in about twenty years. It was one hour late. Yep,
there goes that story. So look, I wasn't stressed out
about it because I had built in some time because

(23:01):
I thought, you know, the best predictor of future behavior
is past behavior, and it is jet Star, so we'll
see how it goes. And then the bloody Jetstar thing
happened to me. The thing that happens with Jetstar is
they are like flying all their metal all the time, right,
So the minute one plane goes down, they don't have
another spare plane. They could just whip onto the tarmac
and take the plate, so it just core. It creates
a domino effect. That plane is now running running lates,

(23:24):
and now everything's running lates. So everything was running lates.
We're an hour late. Anyway. Also, it was the husband
was a jet Star virgin until today and it was
a novel experience for him because we had to walk
in parts of the airport he's never walked in before
and he was like, he was freaking out. He was like,
where are we going? This is the tradesman's entrance.

Speaker 14 (23:45):
What is this.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I was like, no, this is the way you got
a jet Star. It's down the back corridors. Watch out,
don't fall over. Okay, that's all right, No, you've survived.
But then we got there and then we bumped into
a CEO who I know, who was also catching Jetstar
and he had his mate Blair with him, and Blair
was a virgin as well, and they're all going down
for the same event that we're going down for. And
then we bumped into old mate Wat's her name, who

(24:07):
used to be on tally, can't remember her name right now,
got chatting to her. She was a jet Star virgin,
all on the same flight as me, all going to
the same event. So anyway, and the reason, the reason
she had booked the Jetstar was for the same reason
that we had, which as we looked at the n
New Zealand tickets and went whatever hour. But anyway, so
it look long in the short of it is it's

(24:28):
much of a muchness, isn't it. You know, you fly
in New Zealand, you're definitely going to be late. You
fly a jet Star, you might be late, and if
you're late, you're very late, and you're having to walk
down parts of the co parts of the airport you
didn't know existed before.

Speaker 8 (24:40):
Sixteen Away from five Politics with centrics credit check your
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Speaker 2 (24:46):
Jeez, I thought I had a bad my in New Zealand.
Flight New Plymouth to Auckland was delayed by two hours
and forty five minutes. Today it was just a day
of it by the looks of things. Thirteen Away from
five Barry Soper, Senior Political correspondence with us Hallo Barry,
Good afternoon. So what did we get out of court
with the male.

Speaker 10 (25:00):
Well, nothing as yet, but Kappa KINGI seems to think
there'll be some sort of decision. I mean, she is
appealing against her expulsion from the party and she's seeking
an injunction against the party and in her firing line
is very much John Tammaheady and you know she she
emerged from the court, she seemed quite happy with the

(25:25):
way it was conducted. But she did leave no one
in any doubt that party President John Tammaherry is firmly
in her sight.

Speaker 16 (25:33):
It requires a certain way of being, you know, and practice,
and from my experience and my point of view and
my observations, those things aren't evident. And so I think
we're ready for a new leadership actually at that executive
and council level. And it's my it's my party, and

(25:54):
I'll cry if I want to. I'm neither confident or
not confident, but I'm glad to have had one's day
in court again, you might see.

Speaker 10 (26:01):
And it's interesting that she doesn't even though she lives
in the same oh sorry, shares the same office as
Takuta Ferrs. She's not sure whether he's joining in any
court action. He in the past has said no, I
don't want it. But look, there is an AGM coming
up very shortly, and I guess all cards will be
on the table.

Speaker 17 (26:21):
Then.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
See the Prime Minister turned up in Ikea today.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
Isn't that wonderful? You know, I think it's great. And
a lot of the media turned up and you.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Know this is a lot of the media. Didn't the
entire media turn Oh maybe they did.

Speaker 10 (26:32):
Yeah, And I think, look, it's it's a great day
for New Zealand when a big international company decides to
open up here, and I think we should be celebrating
that rather than many have been criticizing it. And I
can't quite understand, because we are looking for good things
in this country and this is one good thing, just

(26:53):
like Costco was as well. So you know, apparently shoppers
were gathered outside at four forty five, as early as
four forty five am this morning. It opened at eleven
o'clock and there wasn't the goodlock of traffic apparently people
that were still car parks when people arrived at the
opening time of eleven o'clock. But look, the Prime min

(27:16):
is to cut an appropriately blue ribbon to declare the
megastore open, and for all the detractors, he had this
to say.

Speaker 18 (27:25):
He got a large multinational that's may have chosen to
make his first investment in New Zealand. It's taken some
time to get to this point. It creates local employment opportunities.
There's five hundred and.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Forty staff here already.

Speaker 18 (27:36):
Most of them have never worked for a care before,
they've been trained, and importantly, you've also had a whole
bunch of economic activity with contractors and people that are
supporting the retailer here. So you know, it's a good
news story. It's a classic case of where investment creates
opportunity in jobs as well as more competition. That's just
a good thing for New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (27:53):
Were you yawning then, Heather?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
No, oh love, what did he buy? He bought something
and he want to tell anybody what he bought?

Speaker 10 (28:01):
Well, apparently what he bought was and I thought it
was rather unusual for a teetotaler, rather surprisingly. He bought
a set of wine glasses for entertaining others. Of course,
I'd imagine a watering can to presumably called down or
called down the over and bibers that use the wine glasses.
And a blue I've never heard of one Franca bag

(28:24):
and that's it's blue, of course, and I assume that's
got something to do with designer.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
What he did, he just went around and was like
he was, He was just like, what can I buy?
What's quick? That that gone? That's what he did?

Speaker 17 (28:35):
Eh?

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, And good on them.

Speaker 10 (28:36):
For being out there because this is a success story
for now.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Now, have the questions have been asked about Sonny Kochal.

Speaker 10 (28:42):
Yes, and I know you've asked questions before about what
what Sonny is being paid. Well, they just as ministries
before the Scrutiny Week Scrutiny week at Parliament today, the
head of it, he's defending Sunny Kocial's work as chairman
of that ministerial group, including the two hundred and twenty

(29:06):
seven dollars and eighty five five hundred and eighty five
dollars in pay and three two hundred dollars for a
morning tea event in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Surely not just for himself.

Speaker 19 (29:16):
Well, no, so.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I think Bry's dying.

Speaker 10 (29:25):
Sonny might be well, he's not that large. I don't
think he could manage that. But look, it's really interesting
labor MPs. They revealed that Koshal had built so many
hours between February and July that he almost certainly worked
weekends and public holidays. Well, the head of the ministry, Kibblewhite,

(29:45):
Andrew Kibblewhite, he says that look, he's a very hard
worker and he may well have done that, but he
also earned you know, a lot. He's earned a lot
of money on top of that. But he's Kershel himself
is at back saying that labor playing politics, and then
he did exactly the same thing himself. He said basically

(30:06):
that this is a declaration or a distraction from the
real problem, and that's retail crime that's doubled since nineteen
twenty nineteen under the Labor Watch.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (30:20):
Yeah, he was playing the same game as he coues,
thank you very much, and makes a lot of money.

Speaker 14 (30:24):
Out of it.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, thank you, Arry very so for senior political correspondent
seven away from five. Oh, come on, you really can't
see why people are bagging Ka and Costco. It's because
yet again, it's only an fing Auckland.

Speaker 8 (30:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
That is kind of true, but also not kind of
not true, because don't forget, there are all these little like,
i don't know quite what you call them, like deposit
points or something like that along the country, up and
down the country. You can order the IQ online. They've
got this fantastic lord and now I'm basically doing exactly
what I've accused that all the rest of the media
fizzing about them. But there is a little like they've

(30:55):
got this little function on the app where you can
you could take a photograph or whatever of your house
and see how the product would look in your house,
so you can buy it. You can know how it's
gonna look, you can order it, you can pick it
up at the Blaze. It's not just for Auckland's fullestall anyway.
On that subject, the warehouse is hustling hard today, man, Like,
if you this a long time since we've seen anybody
hustle this hardy. And this is because of the Ika opening.

(31:16):
They've opened a pop up store in an old warehouse
in mount Eden that I don't think they've used for
about ten years. And this is basically for anyone who
doesn't want to go to Ikea, come along to the warehouse,
they're saying. And then they've been bombing the socials. So
n ZTA put up a Facebook post warning about bad
traffic around the Ikea store, and in the comments for
warehouse official account just weighs in and says just skip

(31:37):
the cues and come see us. At one about twenty
two Auckland stores sunglasses smiley emoji face. It went down
a treat. They are about four hundred at last count
when I saw it four hundred thumbs up and laughs
from other people, and then of course they're running out
the ads as well. Anyway, you've got to love the
hotspa from the Warehouse and if you needed proof that
there is some good coming from Ikea coming to the country,

(31:59):
that's it right there. The warehouse is actually lifting its game. Now,
big day for Australia. Although it doesn't kick in. This
is the social media band for the kids. It doesn't
kick in until next week. I think next Wednesday. Facebook's
already started to kick the kids off. They're deleting accounts,
go and nat so on it. So we're going to
speak to Stephen Sheila, who's a former Facebook Australian New

(32:21):
Zealand CEO. He's going to be with us in the
next hour, but straight after five o'clock let's talk to
somebody full side bar about how well I Kia is
going to do. News Dogs be.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
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Speaker 2 (33:00):
Finally, after all the waiting and the traffic warnings and
the excitement. Ikea has opened in Auckland and given how
much we fizzed for it, analysts are expecting it's going
to have quite an impact on retail in New Zealand.
Paul Karaua is a retail analyst at Full Sythe by
High Paul Hi. Paul, has it been a successful launch
day or a little bit disappointing given the numbers who

(33:20):
actually turned up after all that hype?

Speaker 19 (33:23):
Yeah, I think because of all the hype, a lot
of people have steered away from going and missing the
curb today. I think the real tell tale sign will
be how it performs through the weekend in the lead
up to Christmas. And so while maybe we haven't seen
the numbers that we thought we were going to get today,
I think it's going to show over the next few
sort of weeks.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
The six percent of the market that you'll pretere of
the retail market you're predicting it's going to take seems
quite a big number for something that's just started.

Speaker 19 (33:53):
Yeah, so percent of the sort of industries that they
play in, and so this is in the home furnishing
sort of market, artment store market, and this comes from
stats New Zealand and the number of the actual number
on that was one hundred and nineteen million. That's sort
of what we thought IKEA was going to do and
the way we think about it, as you know, the
thirty four thousand square meter of store, based on some

(34:13):
of the sales deentities that they run in Australia, their
sales per square meter, you can sort of back up
where you think it's going to it's going to fall out.
And I think based on some of the feedback we've
got from from some people who work there, that that
number seems to be in and around the right number.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, and did you see the warehouse has already started
hustling hard today.

Speaker 14 (34:33):
I have not seen it. No, I haven't.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
It is it is quite a thing to watch, Paul.
But I mean this would be an indication, This would
be a sign, wouldn't of how ike will impact competition?

Speaker 19 (34:44):
Yes, No, absolutely. I think it's a good thing for
the end consumer because a lot of these retailers are
going to be working on their products, working on their pricing,
working on their ranging to you know, when what they
believe is their fair share of the market, and you know,
the upshot for the consumers you're going to have access
to the better prices, better products, and you know, more
affordable range of goods. So you know, watching this competition happen,

(35:07):
I think will be a good thing for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Now do you see IKEA opening in New Zealand as
a sign of success that they see a market here,
that they see enough buying power here to come and
establish here.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (35:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 19 (35:20):
I think it's the market that they've been looking at
for a while. I think, you know, understanding how the
New Zealand market sort of operates, they've been working on
for for a long time and so they actually into
a number of New Zealand households to figure out, you know,
the sort of products that New Zealand consumers think they're
under serviced in where they're not getting the right price
on certain products, and that's sort of what they've been
focusing on. So their engine is actually a little bit

(35:42):
smaller than that you might see in another country, but
they've really brought the things specialized to what they think
that keries need. And I think the other interesting point
is that they've actually opened up nationwide distribution from day one,
and this is something that you know, they don't typically
do when they open into a new market. But understanding
how excited Kiri is not just in Land are about
the heaping by care. They've made it successful for everyone

(36:04):
across jill And to have access to these products.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, Paul listen, thanks very much for talking us. For
Paul Kahwa, who is the full South Bar retail analyst.
Ten past five, Heather Do for ce Ellen. Secondary strikes
are over. This is the teachers. Obviously, the p p
t A union members have voted in favor of the
government's payoffer and the p b t A president Chris
Abercrombie is with us.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
I Chrisody, how are you?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I'm well, thank you? You happy with the deal.

Speaker 20 (36:29):
We're pleased that we're going to be able to start
the new year in a settled environment.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
So that's that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Am I right in thinking you've managed to secure the
ability to continue to take teachers only days during term time.

Speaker 20 (36:41):
Uh, well there's still there's always existed because it's the
minister that decides teacher any days. But yeah, so there's
no changes for the callback provisions that was in this
later settlement.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Have you lost some ability to claim expenses though?

Speaker 11 (36:56):
Are yes?

Speaker 6 (36:57):
So?

Speaker 20 (36:57):
During a teacher call days during a normal term time day,
then yeah, you won't be able to claim expenses.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
So, but you are able to do it if it's
during holidays, presumably, yes, claim those expenses.

Speaker 20 (37:09):
Yeah, so yeah, when the school when the schools closed
for instruction.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yes, so, Chris, In that case, it should incentivize secondary
teachers to actually take those teacher only days the professional
development during during holiday time.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Well, it's up to schools to decide that.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
It's not the teachers.

Speaker 20 (37:25):
Don't decide to do teacher any days in term time.
It's a minister decision or a school decision and when
to do those. It's not individual teachers deciding that.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Good stuff. How long before we start getting another round
of this stuff?

Speaker 20 (37:38):
So the our Colectic of agreement expires at the end
of twenty twenty seven, so we'll be starting our process
of claims negotiations about mid twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Brilliant. Hey, thank you very much, Chris appreciated. Chris Abercrombi
PPTA present towel plus.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Five Heather do for see Allen.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Look, it's still a bit of a grind on the
old property market. I'm sorry to tell you. Co Tality
new Zealand's numbers for November show that there was zero growth.
This is across the country, zero growth for November and
for the year we actually went backwards by zero point
seven percent nationally, so your property price came down. But
you already know this right Auckland. If you look at

(38:14):
the main centers, Auckland is down by zero point two percent,
Dunedin is up by zero point one percent, up, Wellington's
up by zero point one percent. This is for the
month of November. Christ Church is up by zero point
three percent, totaling up by zero point six percent. Hamilton
up by zero point seven percent. So you can see
it's it's pretty it's so close to zero. It's a
bit of a you know. What they're blaming is higher

(38:34):
than usual stock numbers as in terms of the stock
of housing, and then ongoing concerns about unemployment because of
course no one wants to buy a house if they're
not sure that they can actually get a job will
retain the job. They are still expecting a lift next year,
but that what they're saying is just taking a little
bit longer than expected to finally get going. The national
median value now sits at eight hundred and six thousand

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seventeen past five Now, the world's first social media band
for Ozzie teens is still a week away, but Facebook
has started kicking the kids off today. Stephen Sheila is
the former CEO of Facebook Australia New Zealand, and he's

(40:23):
with us. Welcome back, Steven, good to be here. Yeah,
do any idea how many they've kicked off?

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I don't know yet, but they're starting.

Speaker 21 (40:34):
I think there's you know, there's several hundred thousand teens
that fall into this category and on across Meta's two
platforms of Instagram at Facebook, so you know they're probably
getting into the thousands or tens of thousands already.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I got a text earlier that said, if you go
to Reddit you can see how to get around this
in about five minutes flat. Is that a fact?

Speaker 21 (40:56):
I think there's going to be a lot of forums
like that. You know, the internet moves fast, the teams
move fast, so you know, I'm sure there's a lot
of hacks that get around this that are being talked
about online. But the government here has said essentially, this
won't be hackable. We will find and shut down these

(41:16):
hacks around getting around it. And now we'll see whether
that plays out or not. But the government seems very
determined to ensure that there's not easy ways around this.
But whether platforms or fourteens.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Stephen, how are you feeling about it. We're sitting here
one week away from something that has been the subject
of much debate and I guess skepticism about whether it
will work. Do you feel confident it will.

Speaker 21 (41:40):
I feel like this is my personal opinion. I've been
out of Facebook for many years now, and I have
young kids, but I think the new normal is going
to become sixteen. The research is pretty much overwhelmingly showing
this is sort of neuroscience and behavioral research. It's shown
that teens in that thirteen, fourteen to fifteen range there

(42:04):
is a lot of challenge for them in these algorithmic platforms. Now,
there are benefits to social media from many teens as well.
But the negative effects I think are just just too pronounced,
too obvious that we need to start to think about
moving this age. So I think I think it will work.
I think it will work. If I had to predict,

(42:25):
I think the platforms will make it work. I think
the government here is determined to make it work. And
therefore I think around the world you're going to see
more governments over the next few years start to move
to make sixteen the new normal.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
With social media, you can only go So Steven is
good to talk to you, mate, Thanks so much. Stephen Sheila,
former Facebook Australia New Zealand CEO. I'll keep an eye
on that, of course, next week when it kicks in.
Listen back here. The government's opened its books today. This
will be no surprise to you. If you're running your
own budget and you're going jees, it's tough times financially,
and you're running your business budget, you go all tough

(42:58):
times financially. Government's books are worse than expected. Tough times
financially because we're all going through the same recession. So
to the end of October, the budget deficit is larger
than expected. I think that they were looking at around
about four point two billion in deficit. It's four point
nine billion, so it's a reasonable amount. The tax take
is lower than forecast. The corporate tax was down happily
though the net debt was lower than expected. It's come

(43:20):
in at just short of one hundred and eighty seven
billion dollars, which is about forty three percent of the
value of the economy. The next update, the next update
is actually a significant update, and we're to get to
get at about a fortnight or so, and that is
the half year economic update. Now you will be hearing
it if you're still at work in a fortnit so.
So let's talk about that summer break that you're planning
on having next five to twenty.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's Heather
dificy Ellen Drive with One Zealand coverage like no one
else news talks. They'd be hither.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Who's worried about Facebook and social media? When kids can
access poorn et cetera online without great difficulty listen, they
shouldn't be able to and the porn website should be
forced to do the same thing. And the fact that
we've just accepted this for the longest time is probably
the problematic thing, although I realized how we got here anyway.
Five twenty three. Here's a question for you. Is our
summer holiday too long? Are we going to the beach

(44:13):
and staying away from the office for too long? There's
a chap called Toss Grumley who thinks so. He's written
a column about it. He's a young mover and shaker,
business advisor, director investor in multiple New Zealand entities. Here
reckons that our summer breaks are so long now that
we're pretty much winding down from November and then we're
only sparking up again in February, which means that we're
taking about ten weeks of productive conversations out of the

(44:34):
business calendar, and it's hurting our productivity. And we have
no retail spending in January rarely to speak of, and
businesses have poor cash flow at the start of the
year when they come to have a look at it
in April May, because they are taking excessively long shutdown periods. Now,
I think Toss has got a point here.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
We do this.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
This is why you'll see the Reserve Bank leaves the
economy basically in the park. For two months until they
come back in February. But then again, I don't want
this to change, do you. I would rather work flat
out for eleven months a year and then take a
nice long break over summer than work all year round
and even pace. I think this is just human nature,

(45:12):
because summer is for enjoying. Summer is for spending with
your kids. It's for going out there, having a swim,
getting out in the sun, doing all the things that
make life worth living, seeing your family, all the good stuff.
Plenty of countries do this too, We're not the only ones.
Try getting anything done in Europe in the month of
August and you are out of luck this year. The
Bank of England, just just by way of an example,

(45:32):
you go look at any central bank. Bank of England
will not make a single decision for the entire month
of August, and then also for the first two weeks
of September. Now, maybe Toss has a point that the
summer is getting too long. Maybe we should be powering
ourselves right up until Christmas, then stopping and then coming
back after maybe four or five weeks and getting stuck
into it again at the start of February, rather than

(45:53):
taking ten weeks off with our brains. Fair enough, But
can I just say this, I urge caution here. We
have a really great work life balance in this country.
We understand that life is for living, not just for working.
We have a joy about our lives. Don't throw that
away too easily either, dup see Allen? Okay, have you done?

(46:14):
Have you opened your Spotify? It's the day. This is
the day of the year when they do the Spotify unwrapped.
So it'll tell you your top you know what I'm
talking about. It it tells you you top albums, top musician's,
top top songs. The new thing that Spotify has gone
got is your listening age. I am very, very sad
to tell you my listening age is sixty four. Ye

(46:36):
have now ever, and what's your listening age?

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Then?

Speaker 11 (46:39):
Seventeen for me here?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Yeah, okay, So you choose, do you want to be
seventeen or do you want to be sixty four.

Speaker 11 (46:45):
I'm taking seventeen any day of the week.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
He is taking seventeen. It says a lot about ants.
But look anyway, I looked at it and I thought, okay,
and what it said was you were listening age of
sixty four because you're into music from the late seventies.
I thought, oh no, that's okay. I can explain that
because my son, who's three years old and also has
a listening age of sixty four, absolutely loves this song
and has drummed along to it a thousand times this year.

(47:07):
I swear to God, if I never have to listen
to the song ever again in my life, it will
be a happy date. Well, it wouldn't be a happy
day because my son wouldn't be.

Speaker 5 (47:14):
No.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
I'll take the song with the son because I love
the boy. But lord, I know the song inside out anyway,
So I was gonna blame him, right, And then we're
going through the list of this either you'll top song
blah blah blah, top song number one?

Speaker 6 (47:25):
Is this one?

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Sure?

Speaker 11 (47:30):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I'm forty one years old, it's twenty twenty five, and
I'm still listening to Chris Rie as Josephine. How sad
am I So I'm just as much to blame for
it anyway. This is my top five. Josephine, Chris Ria,
a seven nation Army, the White Stripes. That's Iggy. I
don't live here anymore. The War on drugs, that's me.
Games of Luck by Parcels that's me. Rasboutine, boney m
definitely iggy. Top album to Fudo Tea WakaWaka by Marlon Williams.

(47:56):
So slightly embarrassed, not altogether embarrassed. Still doing better than
ants seventeen. So what would you rather have?

Speaker 22 (48:04):
Culture?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
All fun in your life? Culture a anyway? Next up?
Answer disagrees. Next up, talk about the T twenty league
that's driving people nuts Newstalks.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
It'd be hard questions, strong opinion. Hither duplicy Ellen drive
with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile
New Soalks, it'd be.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
It's not been too bad for Fonterra by the way,
Q yeah, Q one results from Fonterra, they're not looking
too bad to me. Or Jamie McKay is going to
be with us after six o'clock. Hither I work in
a services consulting company. We are flat out until Christmas.
Things crack up, but crank up most about the third
week of January. And I think most service based companies

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would be like this. We'll talks to the huddle, they're
going to be with us shortly and seem I mean
it's a fair point to make. It might be the
office peed, It might be people sitting around in the
office who go off swe off for seven week long holidays.
But most people who are doing services and important like
actual important work in the actual important work in the country,
they don't take that longer break, do they. Twenty four

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away from six now the proposed T twenty competition for
New Zealand. It's got the backup of a number of
former black Caps who've written an open letter opposing it.
The allegations that they make include the fact that if
the league is set up, it will put the upcoming
Test Series against Australia and jeopardy. It's Scott weenenk who's
the boss of New Zealand Cricket, has been put under
pressure to accept the new league, and that the new

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league has lost its financial backing. Richard Petree is a
former black Cap who signed the letter and is with us.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Hey, Richard, hey, here, then, how are you?

Speaker 2 (49:50):
I'm very well, thank you. Now are you opposed to
the idea of a T twenty league here altogether or
are you just opposed to this one?

Speaker 23 (49:59):
We're opposed to this one and the way it's the
way it's being proposed. So no, we're for anything that's
for good of New Zealand cricket, but if it's done
a certain way, there are major consequences with everything and
the way this one is set up is not a
good look from our point of view.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
One of the concerns that you've raised is that if
we were to go ahead with it, we would be
tying up our local cricket as and some of them
would be Black Caps to play in domestic cricket for January.
But isn't that a good thing for domestic cricket.

Speaker 23 (50:31):
Well, it would be, but not at the expense of
there's a tour of Australia. The fourth Test in New
Zealand against Australia is going into January. So what happens
there if all your players, including Black Caps are being
pulled in and understanding is they all have to sign
and make themselves available in January for this competition. Effort
was to go ahead. Well, what happens to your Test

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team in January when they all get pulled out to
go and play this provincial t twenty tall What happens
to the shrink and tour which is scheduled to be
during that time and then India is not long after.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
So if you can imagine a metaphor or a.

Speaker 23 (51:10):
Similar situation, imagine rugby and you know, a group coming
up to New Zealand Rugby and saying, hey, you know
how you've got all these tests lined up in June July.
We've contracted all your players in June and we'd like
to borrow them to go and play some I don't know,
some sevens games, but we'll give them back to you
in July. And New Zealand Rugby would say, well, hang on,

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we've got a whole test schedule lined up, we've got
international games.

Speaker 7 (51:34):
And they're going, oh, well, you know we've signed them first,
We've promised.

Speaker 23 (51:38):
Them a lot of money. Sorry about that, maybe you play.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
Your B team, you know.

Speaker 7 (51:43):
So there's all that sort of consequences and you know, and.

Speaker 23 (51:47):
You know, part of the where the money is in
cracket is TV rights. So you can imagine Sonny, which
is Sonny from India and you've got Sky TV, who
I believe have put down two hundred million for five
years to get the TV rights to New Zealand cricket. Now,
if you're pulling out top cricketers in January. It's like

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kind of selling a gourmet pie with no meat in
it and they're going to turn around and go, hang on,
where's the meat.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Now, Richard? Is this not what other countries are doing?
And because I mean everybody else seems to have anybody
who matters has a T twenty league.

Speaker 23 (52:28):
Yeah, good, good point. West Indies have done it. Their
test cricket has fallen from being the greatest sort of
Test team in the world to not much. There's a
T twenty competition in Australia, the Big Bash, but that's
kind of controlled by Australian Cricket. It's not an independent
outfit that's come in and said we want to play

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during your summer. Australian Cricket you just wouldn't get away
with that. There's there's one in South Africa, but I
mean South Africans are you know they need the money?

Speaker 6 (53:00):
Who you know it's.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Isn't now Super Smash losing money?

Speaker 6 (53:05):
Well?

Speaker 23 (53:06):
Oh the Super Smash would be Yeah, there'd be lots
of parts. I mean, most families lose money apart from
one person who brings it in, So you've got to
kind of make sure that you've got whoever's bring the
money in is reasonably generous to everybody else to keep
everyone else going.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (53:22):
So yeah, I mean, but the whole thing hither is
you take away the money from this league. Would anyone
be thinking running a provincial T twenty league in January
pulling bars out of say a test versus Tralia, There
would be no one who said this is a good idea.
The only reason that people think it's a good idea

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is the money.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
That's the only reason. Now it's going to base your
decisions based.

Speaker 23 (53:49):
Solely on one thing, and it's the money. And it's
not guaranteed either. I mean, you're dealing with these legs.
Most of them lose money in the first three years, right,
So the New Zealand league doesn't go that well, they
lose money, and whoever's funding it pulls out.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Then what are you left with?

Speaker 7 (54:07):
You know, you've kind of decimated your test.

Speaker 23 (54:09):
You know, there's all sorts of you know, second and
third order consequences from this, one of them being New
Zealand Cricket loses a whole lot of money in TV
rights and its probably struggles to produce the services they
need to do to look after all the stakeholders in
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Richard, it's been very interesting to talk to you. Thank
you very much for your perspective on that. That's Richard Petrie,
former black Cap. Heather Spotify says, my listening age is
twenty eight, not bad for a fifty eight year old.
Dennis nineteen away from six.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty a name
you can trust locally and globally.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
On the Huddle with US seven we have Mark Sainsbury
broadcaster and Thomas Scrimser of the Maximus that you'd hire
you too good?

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Here are you, Heather Sames?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
You were a cricket fan?

Speaker 13 (54:53):
Look, no, I got hit in the very sensitive area
with a full toss that was in the third form
and that put me.

Speaker 6 (54:58):
Out in support for it forever.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Yeah, and so now every time you watch it, you yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:05):
But as it went on, I mean they started, let's
start what this is all about.

Speaker 13 (55:09):
It's trying to make sport more attractive at an event
and get people along, you know, you know, like I did,
I sat down, I would ever normally.

Speaker 17 (55:16):
Watch the eshes.

Speaker 13 (55:17):
I started watching it because it was all over in
two days. So I can see there must be so
tinking them to look at something like this. But I
think Richard Petrie's biggest complaint, I think, seems to be
that it's the outside of control of New Zealand Cricket,
that a private enterity, you control it.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yes, yeah, Thomas, do you have do you have any
concerns about this and about the chasing of the dollar here?

Speaker 24 (55:42):
Well, I think there'd be concerns if people aren't doing
their due diligence, But I think in general it should
be something that's explored because I guess we hear a
lot about is this good for New Zealand cricket as
an abstract thing, but I think is it better for
current players in New Zealand cricket who are trying to
earn a wage and if there's more people competing to
hire them to play cricket, one would expect they earn

(56:03):
more money. That's why they would go and play for
a new league as opposed to existing ones. So I
think New Zealand Cricket has a vested interest in blocking this.
It's just not clear to me that that's because of
their desire for the good of the game rather than
New Zealand Cricket trying to protect their turf.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I tell you what I think is fascinating saying so,
is that there is all at the moment, there is
so much disruption if you think about it. And this
was pointed out to me by somebody who's very smart
the other day. Cricket is going through this where there
is massive disruption in the CEO is in trouble. Netball
is going through this where there is massive disruption and
the CEO is in trouble. And it's not long ago
that Rugby went through this with silver Lake and they

(56:39):
can't find a CEO.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Yeah. Yeah, something's in the water.

Speaker 13 (56:45):
It is something in the border. And this is the
other confusing thing about this. It seems that you know,
some of the big and the major provincial cricketing associations
are sort of a sort.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
Of right behind it.

Speaker 13 (56:55):
And then you've got again this tension going on at
New Zealand Cricket with a CEO which peers is a
bit on the OUTHA.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
Yeah, it's water, Heather. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I would like to put to you, Thomas that the
financial model that we have used for sport in this
country is broken.

Speaker 24 (57:14):
Oh yeah, I'm sure it is. I mean, part of
the problem is that entertainment is global now. Heaps of
young Kiwi kids are watching basketball, or watching American football,
or just watching videos on TikTok. Sport used to have
this central local place in our entertainment network and now
it just doesn't. So it's harder to compete for viewers.
And I think the financial models just aren't going to

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be viable and they're going to have to reinvent themselves.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Okay, now, guys, get ready to be honest, because I
want to know next from you when you're going away
for summer and how long you're going for. We'll get
back to that.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Quarter two The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real Team,
the only truly global brand.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
You're back with the Huddle, Thomas Scrimger, Mark Sainsbury. All right, Thomas,
when are you going away on your holiday break?

Speaker 24 (57:57):
I'm working through to the nineteenth and then flying off
to Canada on the twenty second, so you know, working
most of the way to Christmas. My old man will
be a bit disappointed in me. He always told me
that the best worked out of the year is the
twenty third of December. You need one day's leave before Christmas,
and but on the twenty third of December all the
slackers have gone home, so he can get some real
good work done. I'm knocking off on the nineteenth, so

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probably letting the family down.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Gone for how long?

Speaker 11 (58:24):
Gone for two weeks?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Oh, there's really short and then you're back at work.

Speaker 24 (58:28):
Might take a few more days off, but yeah, you know,
you go, you take a break, and then how long
does anyone want a holiday for?

Speaker 14 (58:34):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
You know what's a holiday? Saying so, I mean you
are on your on constant holiday, aren't.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
You perman holiday? Yeah? That's right.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, what do you reckon?

Speaker 6 (58:43):
It?

Speaker 16 (58:43):
Is?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
This chap tosk got a point those saying so that
we're taking far too long nowadays.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
Well it could be, but some of the stone if
you choice to tell me here that if.

Speaker 17 (58:50):
You said the ZB I want to work right through Christmas,
and then reads I want to have a holiday. But
later they'd go, no, no, we need you for our
peak rating periods and whatever.

Speaker 6 (59:01):
And it used to be the same in TV. You're
forced to head to take your.

Speaker 13 (59:06):
Leave in January because it was considered the sort of
least profitable sort of time for.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
Them, So that thought all that, So that and you've
got the school holidays, people are away. Like I see
his point, but we do go into this thing.

Speaker 13 (59:19):
We go into the thing over the summer where you know,
like I'm trying to run Means Health Week when looking
at different sponsors, I know, I don't get something done
literally before December starts trying to get to people as impossible,
and then it is February before they're back.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
To make this argument saying, so the reason you can't
get anybody in December is not because they're not working.
They are working in December. It's just we're so flat
out with everything else that's going on that we haven't got.
We have to finish the work we've got rather than
take new work on. So it's not I don't think
like Toss's argument is that we stop having productive conversations.
But it's simply because we're trying to get through our workload.

Speaker 6 (59:57):
Yeah, before we go on a great big break.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, but I don't think, yeah, but you've got to
go on a break, so it's gonna happen anyway. But
it's structural, Like Thomas, this is structural, isn't it. It
is structural because you have to have a shutdown period
at this point in the year. But also I would
argue this is a good life and we shouldn't throw
it away. What do you say?

Speaker 24 (01:00:16):
Yeah, I think a lot of businesses probably get a
bit caught up in what seems urgent rather than what's
really important. So they're kind of wanting to tech off
a bunch of stuff before Christmas, go flat out, and
then don't come back as quick as they could. I
just want it strange when we're talking about, you know,
are people working enough over the summer for the good
of the economy. I don't work for the good of
the economy. I work for a wage, and so you know,

(01:00:38):
if businesses want to think they can squeeze more out
of January and more productivity, great, they can work with
their employees. But I think it's just really weird to
talk about work life balance and how that makes the
economy run, as if that's why we work.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Yeah, I think you're onto something all right listening you're
going to go to Ikea sain Zone.

Speaker 13 (01:00:55):
Oh look, it reminds me of when k Seafood is
so accused, although that turned out not be as bad
as predicted.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
Yeah, look, I've been to Ikea. It's funny. Ikea celebrated
their fiftieth anniversary in Sydney in July. Yeah, fiftieth anniversary,
and we're here going, oh the wonder is Ikea. Is't
this wonderful? You know it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
This is why we're excited.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
We love that.

Speaker 13 (01:01:22):
But it's like it isn't a bit of a hangover
as all those things we couldn't wait to McDonald's got
here and all that sort of stuff. We look over
seas at different things and they just get so excited
by it and becomes a sort of, you know, this
collective hysteria.

Speaker 6 (01:01:36):
But I was pleased to see that, you know, the
forty minute wait to get off the motorway never eventuated.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
So I think Ikea was as pleased about that. Thomas.
I think, look there says I was touched on something.

Speaker 6 (01:01:47):
There was.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
There's definitely a cringe over how like mad for it
we got. But it is also a good news economic
story because it shows we've got the kind of disposable
income that's worth chasing.

Speaker 24 (01:01:57):
Well, you could go the cringe direction, but I'm going
on the conspiracy direction. I drove into work this morning
on the motorway and there are signs advertising Ikea that
are Auckland Transport signs. I open up the Herald's website
and suddenly there's a live ticker of updates. Is everyone
getting paid for all this free advertising? Where where can
I get this money? I'm on here on radio talking

(01:02:19):
about Ikea opening. It's a furniture store. Am I getting
some you know, some kickbacks for this?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
And here here you were complaining about making the economy
more productive and you're finding your own way to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Okay, guys, thank you very much. And yeah, we're going
to send our invoices to Ikea, aren't we. Mark Sainsbury
broadcast to Thomas Scrimsher Maxim Institute. Eight away from.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Five away from six. Listen, guys. I'm actually really worried
about this guy who swallowed the Faberget egg pendant last week.
It's still it's still inside him. So when answers now started,
I don't know if you know this, ants, but you
are now going to be checking in with the police
on this every single day. Answers now started a daily

(01:03:11):
watch on this because what happened is last Friday, in
the afternoon, this chap wandered into the Auckland City Jewelers.
We don't know which one, it's a secret, and he
picked up the Faberget pendant. And sorry if I've told
you this before, because I am now fixated with the story,
but he swallowed it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
It's worth thirty four thousand dollars, So you can't just
leave it there. You have to get this out. Like
I don't know about you, but I would swift through
Pooh for thirty four thousand dollars, which is literally what
they're going to have to do. Anyway. The troubler is
it's still inside this guy with ants. Checked with the
police today and they were like, no, we haven't got
it out yet. And the guy's in jail and there is,

(01:03:46):
as I told you yesterday, there is an officer dedicated
to watching him around the clock. So one of two
things has happened. Either he hasn't pooed since Friday, which
is six days, or it's stuck inside him.

Speaker 11 (01:04:00):
So I was keen to look into this, but apparently
it's too personal to reveal the someone's bowel movements to
a member of the media, which I think is fair enough.
But they and they won't say there any health concerns.
But he did undergo a health examination when he was
brought in, So that says to me that he's probably pooping.
It just hasn't come out yet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
I mean, which is worse, not poping for six days
or not? Oh knowing you've got a piece.

Speaker 11 (01:04:24):
You're really forcing some member of the police, some police
officer who's pained a lot of time to protect the
public to look for the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Yeah, yeah, okay, it's not what they signed up for.

Speaker 11 (01:04:36):
Emailing the police about that tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (01:04:38):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Is you absolutely are now? Answer? Is this ordinary?

Speaker 11 (01:04:42):
This is ordinary by Alex Warren.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Okay, this is ordinary by Alex Warren. This is the
top New Zealand song. I told you my Spotify unrapped.
This is New Zealand's Spotify unrapped. This is the top
song that we've played all year. Die with a Smile
by Lady Gagar and Bruno is second. The Days, which
is a notion remixed by Crystal. That's the third. Luthor
with Scissor by Kendrick Laman and Scissor that's number four

(01:05:05):
and Golden by Hunter Slash x whatever, whatever, Just start
writing properly that one you like?

Speaker 11 (01:05:14):
Oh is that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
That's the screeching song?

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Five?

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Lord, what's wrong with us?

Speaker 25 (01:05:19):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Even in coming up in the next hour, Sam Dickey
on how Black Friday went over in the US, Jamie
McKay on how Fonterra went in Q one, and End
Brady out of the UK. Right now seven past six. Now,
with all the chat about IKEA, the Warehouse is going
all out reminding people to spend local instead. A Warehouse
is even opening a whole new pop up store in
Mount Eden with dedicated home where bargains to rival the

(01:06:11):
new kids on the block. Carolyn Young is the chief
executive of Retail New Zealand and with us.

Speaker 6 (01:06:15):
Hi, Carolyn, how are you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
I'm very well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
It's good to see this from the Warehouse don't you
think absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Look, you know one of the things we need for
the economy is we need people to come out and
buy in store or online from businesses in New Zealand.
It's really critical that we generates economic growth. It generates
jobs and certainty around the whole economy. And there was
a bank governor, you know, when he was talking last
week about the changes to the official cash rate and

(01:06:47):
he was encouraging with deputy with their bank governor was
encouraging everyone to get out and spend. That's what we
actually need is people to actually now start spending out
in the economy and start getting everything going again. So
buying in New Zealand is really a critical part of
it for New Zealanders. If they're going to buy offshore,
the money just goes off shore. It doesn't help the

(01:07:08):
using economy. If you're buying from achine or a team.
What we know is that those businesses don't have to
comply to New Zealand standards. They don't comply to they
don't need to meet the fair trading standards, the Consumer
Guarantees Act, all the health and safety standards. So when
you're thinking about buying presents for your faun now and

(01:07:29):
your friends this Christmas really considered the safety of the
products that you're buying and the guarantees that you get
by buying in New Zealand.

Speaker 14 (01:07:36):
It's really important.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah, I mean, what's going on with the warehouse? Do
we put that down to them, you know, feeling a
real existential threat from Ikea? Or is this actually the
spunky attitude an attitude that's been brought in by the
new chief executive.

Speaker 4 (01:07:51):
Look, I think it's a bit of everything, right. I
think it's that, you know, trying to encourage people to
remind them that they're a New Zealand brand that have
been here a long time. Don't forget about it. You've
got to try and do something different when a big
new player comes into the marketplace. But also we know
that people have been leaning into that tema machine space

(01:08:12):
and that's a threat to the whole economy, not just
for the warehouse. So we're definitely supporting the message around
buying in New Zealand. And Look, you know they've also
been under pressure, right, We know that they've had some
challenging times and so the new chief executive is obviously
looking at ways in which they can address that and
to get out and be creative and you know, just
get some spark and energy back into the warehouse group.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Do you think that so obviously today at IQ was
a little bit of a physit. Certainly the numbers they
were expecting and being talked about didn't come to pass.
Now do you think that was a case of us
overestimating the excitement or is it a case of people
kind of being logical and going, it's going to be
pandemonium on the first day, we'll delay ours it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Yeah, Look, I think everybody thought it was going to
be absolute pandemonium because we know how busy it is
until we're park in December, and people were just thinking
I'll never get there, right, And they did have a
really structured opening and they did encourage everybody to come
by public transport. So, Pats, it's a little bit also
of ike of marketing working well so that you know,
they managed the number of people coming. They didn't open

(01:09:17):
until eleven o'clock tomorrow. They'll be open at nine am,
and they are open through to nine pm every day,
so there is plenty of time after work. It is
a work day in the middle of the week, so
I imagine by time the weekend comes, they'll they'll be
seeing an uplift and numbers going through their store.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Yeah, i'd imagine. So Carolyn, thank you as always, Carolyn Young,
Retail New Zealand CEO. We're lending. When I say we,
I mean Auckland, and I shouldn't really because you know,
not everybody is in Auckland. Auckland is lender. It's just
that I feel an attachment to this particular thing because
it sits above my house so frequently. Auckland is lending.
The police eagle how they copped it to christ Church

(01:09:54):
for a couple of months because of the youth crime
that's going on in Canterbury. Now, what's been going on
in Canterbury. I don't know if you've been across this,
but there's been a spike in ramraids and violent robberies
recently and that was including the attack on the dairy
owner in a power which led to the fourteen year old,
of all things, a fourteen year old being arrested today
is the start of a two month police crackdown basically

(01:10:15):
on it. So if the kids think that this is okay,
they're about to find out that it's not. As I
like to say to my young son, carry that on,
and you see what kind of trouble you're going to
get into. And that's what they're about to find out.
And so the chop is going down to help the
police out with it. I'm happy. I think this is
a good deal for both christ Church and myself because
christ Church gets a piece of equipment that they need
and I get a break from the piece of equipment
that sits above my house. Heather read the faberget swallowing.

(01:10:39):
The other day. I was discussing colonoscopies at my local
gym and a woman told me that she'd been at
a retreat in Balley where they did colon cleansing and
there was a guy who was now an adult who'd
swallowed a crayon as a boy when he was seven
years old, and this crayon finally came out during the
colon cleansing when he was an adult. Maybe they need
to send the guy to the hold on clinic. Lord,

(01:11:03):
imagine that maybe you've been carrying around a crayon for like,
I don't know how old the sky is twenty years
as crayon just lodged in you. That can't be good
for you. A. I mean imagine if he imagine if
we don't get the faberget, how far are we prepared
to go to get this fabage egg out? Do you think,
like if it's stuck in there because he's too I mean,
he's pretty keen to he's pretty keen to knick it,

(01:11:23):
like he's swallowed it to nicck it. So he's not
going to be taking Like you can line up with
the prune juice and the ki we crush and all
your things. You could be standing there with all the things.
He's not gonna take it because he wants to hoard
that little Faberget egg and then he wants to prune
juice in the privacy of his own house and get
it out, get it out. So how I'm told it's Partridges.

(01:11:44):
Somebody texts me if there's not a secret Partridge is
the only ones who have the Faberge egg? How far
is Partridges prepared to go to get this egg out?

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Are we going to will we surgically remove it? Will
we magnetize it out? Are we going to do the
old get one of those people who do the do
the to the cows long glove? Come it in rent?
How far are we prepared to go thirteen past six.

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Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
The numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Duplessy Allen
on the Business Hour with MAS Motor Vehicle Insurance. Your
futures in good hands, used talks'd be listen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
In New Zealand, cabin crew have called off that strike
that they were going to do on Monday, but and
they're going back to the negotiating table. But if they
cannot sort this out, they will strike the week before
Christmas on the eighteenth of December, So keep an eye
on that if you're flying around that time. Seventeen past
six And Jamie mckaye, Host of the Countries with me
I Jamie, Good day, Heather, Good times for Fonterra. Well

(01:13:47):
sort of.

Speaker 26 (01:13:48):
They came out this morning with their Q one Business update,
but most of the thunder was stolen by the announcement
last week that they effectively had to make because the
market was get very titchy indeed about the milk price.
So they came out last week, you might remember, and
move that midpoint milk forecast price to nine dollars fifty
from ten dollars. Ten dollars was unsustainable. So that thunder

(01:14:12):
was stolen today, but they still had some other numbers
out there. Group profit after tax two hundred and seventy
eight million up fifteen million, the equivalent of seventeen cents
per share forecast earnings. This is what the dividends paid off,
forty five to sixty five cents per share, And of
course they did confirm that milk price forecast at nine
to fifty. Interestingly for me, Heather, some of the commentary around,

(01:14:35):
of course, they're selling the Mainland Group, their consumer brand's business,
to Luck to Lease. Did I get that right, Heather?

Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
I think so, Yeah, I think I did.

Speaker 26 (01:14:43):
I'm getting I'm getting better for four point two to
two billion. Remember about three point two billion will go
to the farmers by way of a tax free capital
return of two dollars fifty per share. So I found
it interesting.

Speaker 11 (01:14:56):
A couple of things.

Speaker 26 (01:14:57):
Really, they're going to target to lift back to what
their levels are this year by twenty twenty eight, even
though they will have sold off the consumer brand's business,
which is probably a lofty goal. They're going to invest
one billion dollars over the next three to four years
and projects right around the country at their plants, gearing
them up so they can hopefully make more money for

(01:15:18):
their farmer's shareholders. And the other one was around the
timing of this tax free capital return. The farmers vote
in February. Turkeys don't vote for an early Christmas. They're
going to unanimously support this vote. It's gotio approval already.
So it looks like the farmers, if they're wondering when
they're going to get their money in their hot little

(01:15:40):
hands here, that we could be talking later in the
first half of twenty twenty six maybe, And I'm just
stabbing in the dark here April Tojoon somewhere around about there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
The fact that the ets failed to clear, that the
auction failed to clear a single carbon unit yesterday is
obviously something that we're across. But what's your take on this?
I mean, do you send any money into it? Given
that the thing is clearly falling apart.

Speaker 26 (01:16:04):
Well, I call it the empress new clothes and have it. Honestly,
I've been following this for about twenty years since the
old fart tax protests, way back and way back when
when they remember they drove what was his name, Shane
Aadur in the local King Country politician MP for Taranaki,
King Country drove as Massy Ferguson up the steps of Parliament.
I don't pretend to understand it. Of course, the commodities

(01:16:27):
brokers are blaming the government for causing all this. So
not a single bidder even registered for yesterday's auction making.
And I don't know whether you've covered this one. Stop
me if you have. Making twenty twenty five the second
calendar year in which not a brass razu or a
pine penny was spent on carbon credits. It also happened

(01:16:47):
in twenty twenty three. At the moment, apparently they don't
need to buy off the government action where the minimum
or the floor price is sixty eight dollars, because you
can buy units elsewhere for as little as forty bucks
from foresters and all that sort of stuff. So look,
I honestly don't know where this goes, Heather. I don't
pretend to understand it, and do you know what I reckon?

(01:17:08):
The people who are running it don't understand it. That's
my take on it, Heather mab you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
So, Jamie, thanks very much. Appreciate it, mate, Jamie McKay,
Hosts of the Country hither. I hate to break it
to you, but the police Air Support Unit has three
helicopters Lord, so no break from noise for you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Although what does that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Tell you about crime in Auckland. A We've got three
choppers and they're all in Auckland. I mean, yeah, anyway,
excuse me. Ruchen Revender's out out for one hundred and
seventy six, so that's broken a bit of a hoodoo
for him. Four hundred and ten. Oh what are we?
Four hundred and fourteen for four hour? Embracewell is in
for Ruchan Revender. It's six twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Whether it's Macro micro or just plain economics, it's all
on the Business Hour with Heather Duplessil and Mass Motor
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that be.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
The what's happening to New Zealand Post a lot of
my Black Friday items are delayed. They've changed the delivery
date twice. Now, Ben, I cannot answer that question for
you because I'll tell you honestly, mine came that fast.
That's how fast I came. I ought actually, can I
We'll talk about Australian Post in a minute. You know,
I told you this is really excited. I got the

(01:18:21):
dice and air wrap on the Black Friday sale that
arrived two days ago, so that's not a bad turnaround.
I bought it on Friday, arrived on Tuesday. Then I
bought some other stuff they arrived earlier in the week.
I think it was a blanket or some boring thing
like that. But hey, Australia Posts. Now if you want
to do you want to see somebody blow it out
of the water as Australia Post. I ordered a dress
last week for the function that I'm going to tonight,

(01:18:43):
and it arrived. I text my friend because my friend
sent it. My friends are very cool. She's very cool,
and she's like, that's the way you need to buy
your dress buff from. So I was like, okay, bought it,
like you know, she did. The size cup, we got
the measuring tape out in the office, actually measured around
the bust, measured around the waist, measured around the hips,
did all the things disappointing numbers, pump them in, bought
the dress. I said to her, is it gonna how
long is it going to take to her? Those are

(01:19:04):
going to arrive on time? She's like, mate, it's within
the week. And it was within was it two three
working days? It was pretty pretty, pretty awesome. So yeah,
I can't I can't explain it. But you know what
Black Friday sales something we all got into. Sam Dickie's
checked out the numbers over in the US and he's
going to talk us through it in a minute when
he's with us, just after half pass, just on the

(01:19:24):
different on something, going back to something. This is the
cricket Heather set a text and they're onto something here. Heather,
what's the common denominator between Netbull cricket, rugby and hockey.
It's the Union. Keep an eye on this because the
union is causing all kinds of trouble and I think
we'll have it. We'll have to have a bit more
of a chat about it actually tomorrow, I think on
the sports tuttle. So I've got a theory, and it
comes back to what the pay is being played? Being

(01:19:46):
paid is too much? Six twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
There's no business like show business, my father.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
If you haven't caught up on it already, it's the
Spotify Rap Day. I told you about it, right, This
is the day where the music extreme tells you what
you've listened to most all year round. And the kids
are loving it, and I'm loving it and you're loving it,
and you know who else loves it? Christopher Luxon the
Prime Minister. He's revealed his top artists of the year,
only twelve years old.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Food.

Speaker 15 (01:20:15):
I got all girls get it through here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Oasis and is that right?

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
They would be that right?

Speaker 7 (01:20:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
I don't know. Could you hear that? I couldn't hear that.
Never mind, Oh way, something something something something anyway. Spotify
gave you an age. As I told you earlier. Luxon
was pretty chaffed because his age apparently was twenty seven
and he listened to thirty seven, six hundred and eighty
four minutes of music this year. That's sixty six hundred
and twenty eight hours twenty six straight days, which is
a lot of music. Because I only listened to twenty

(01:20:46):
it's one hundred minutes of music a day. The song
that's playing right now, this is his number one most
listened to song a year. Have a listen.

Speaker 22 (01:20:52):
Samdi's next, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the

(01:21:13):
Business Hour with Head, the duplicy Allen and Mass motor
vehicle insurance, your futures.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
In good hands, used talks.

Speaker 14 (01:21:20):
I'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
Heather based on those numbers. Lux and definitely shares his
Spotify account. I'd say so because you think about this
one hundred days, like, think about it, He's listened to
one hundred minutes of music a day, right, you listen
to one hundred minutes of what's that? That's an hour,
that's more than an hour and a half, that's an
hour forty Where do you get the time to listen
to that kind of music?

Speaker 14 (01:21:49):
Right?

Speaker 10 (01:21:49):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
That that that period of my English is just failing
me right now now, I'm got that kind of time.
Do you have that kind of time? The only explanation
for is two explanations, three explanations. Number one, he works
out and listens to music, which I think we know
is not happening. Number two, he works and listens to music,
which is possible because you can put it on in

(01:22:11):
the background and just you know, do your typing. Well,
that's okay, some people work like that. Number three, his
wife is on his account and totally screwing his algorithm,
which is also possible. Twenty four away from seven, Sam
Dickey Fisher Funds is with us. Sam.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Hello, how's it going.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I'm very well, thank you. So the Black Friday at
the Cyber Monday sales are over. What does it mean
for the health of the consumer in the US? What
are you seeing?

Speaker 25 (01:22:36):
Yes, shoppers were in a pre fine fetal, pretty bullish, moved,
and they defied fairly gloomy expectations heading into it. So
remember we've been talking about that sort of two speed
consumer whereby the lowering consumers under real pressure and there
was a concern that would bleed upwards into the middle
and high end consumer.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
That didn't happen.

Speaker 25 (01:22:54):
So spending on Black Friday was up nine percent on
the previous year, and spinning on Monday, astonishing they've got
all these ridiculous names for these retail days, was up
seven percent on the previous year. And so for context,
that compares to kind of total US retail sales that
are running at about four percent, so an actual acceleration there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Heither, what are you seeing here in trends like online
versus offline and the rise of agentic shoppers and all
that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
Yeah, some pretty interesting stuff there.

Speaker 25 (01:23:23):
So the headline is about twenty five percent of sales
are online, and that's up from the normal trend of
about twenty percent of e commerce penetration. But of those
online sales, mobile, for the first time accounted for more
than fifty percent of sales. So people are no longer
impulse buying at their desks. They're impulse buying on their
phones where they're waiting for coffee, and most interestingly, agentic shoppers.

(01:23:47):
So in plain English, that basically means you tell your
chosen AI assistance, say Meta AI and WhatsApp find me
the best best rated noise canceling coffee maker under two
hundred dollars can be delivered before Monday. So agentic shoppers
began twenty percent of all purchases, up from basically nothing
last year. So these agents are running around buying for us.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Fascinating A I need to make more use of that,
all right, does it? What does this all mean for investors?

Speaker 25 (01:24:17):
I think the main thing is this concern we've been
talking about a little bit that the really weak low
end consumer was going to bleed into the middle and
high end consumer has not happened, so that that consumer
was put on the back burner for now. So that
bodes well for a fairly strong consumer into Christmas. And
remember the consumers seventy percent of USGP, so that's pretty key.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Yeah, interesting stuff, Sam, thank you as always appreciate it.
Sam Dickey Fisher Funds twenty two away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
Ever do for see Ellen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
I'll tell you what is interesting over in the US
is real estate agents in Florida reckon that they're seeing
the signs of the Mam Damie effect. Now what this is.
We were expecting this, this has been predicted, is almost
certainly going to happen, and they reckon they're seeing this
is when wealthy New Yorkers start to leave New York
because the new mayor Zora and Mam Dammy you know,
plan has been very clear about the fact that he

(01:25:09):
plans to ping them with all kinds of increased taxes. Now,
the Florida real estate agents reckon they're already seeing this.
They say that they're seeing an exponential rise in inquiries
and sales. The marketing agent for the Ritz Carlton Residences,
which is an upcoming project of about thirty beach house
condos with you know, enormous price tags like ten million
dollars to one hundred and twenty five million dollars reckons

(01:25:30):
it has logged, and that's American dollars, by the way,
reckons it's logged. And one hundred and sixty six percent
spike in interest from prospective buyers in New York from
this time last year. And the other high end reel
to say, they're saying exactly the same thing, entirely predictable.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Now a day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
It's been a day of releasing the risk the lists,
and the other list that's come out today is the
Google top searchers that we have conducted throughout the year.
Our top search it surprised me was Charlie Kirk. Charlie
Kirk being the America guy who was shot in the
neck earlier this year. Now, I reckon that that's partly
a testament to how little we actually knew about him

(01:26:08):
before he was shot, because it was quite big news
when he was shot, because I mean, he's something of
a cultural moment in and of himself. But if you're
anything like me, you went ho with Charlie Kirk, what
the hell? What's going on? Like untapped part of American
culture that I really hadn't quite appreciated. So anyway, that'll
probably that'll probably explain some of that. Second overall search,
was COPD treatment common?

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Basically, I'm foresema, isn't it? You can't explain that osteoporosis treatment.
I think this is an indication of the fact that
we have an aging population, lots of people or maybe
just a lot of young, anxious people who were going, ah,
my bone hurt. A master of osteoporosis could be either
or Tom Phillips. Now I'm gonna come back to this, okay,
so park that or come back to it. The top

(01:26:54):
searched kiwis Joseph Parker Benjamin Doyle A Benjamin Doyle for
obvious reasons, because that was a bizarre moment for us,
Lord Liam Laws and blah blah blah. Coming in at
number eight is Brook van Velden, and then coming in
at number nine is Stuart Nash. And I think that
both of those parliamentarians should be really proud that they've
made that list. This says something about the impact that
they're having on New Zealand. I suppose top two deaths

(01:27:17):
Charlie Kirk, then Tom Phillips. Coming back to Tom Phillips here.
The reason Tom Phillips will be so widely searched is
because everybody was searching to see if the rumor was
true that they had heard. Yes, probably is top people
we searched is Bell Gibson now Bell Gibson, and Bell
Gibson is the Australian bird who the Netflix documentary is
made about faked to cancer, isn't it?

Speaker 11 (01:27:39):
Oh you're you're away ahead of me on this one.
I'd never heard. Now I was about to look. I
was about to say, oh, yeah, Laura's giving me the
thumbs up, so produce Lauris is absolutely it was. Are
you're going to go, I'm just going to go google
her now and add to those stats.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Just so that it pops up in twenty twenty six again,
I think.

Speaker 11 (01:27:53):
I had to search Charlie Kirk when I was in Japan,
so I added to their stats over there.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Yeah, they'll be like, wow, there was a weird spike
in Japan that week, local moments. What's wrong with us?
I don't know. Wind warning, rainfall warning, tsunami warning, thunderstorm warning, cyclone,
TAM treaty principles, bill submission, Metallica auckland a Metallica tongurero fire,
measles sale GP. So we're interested in events, David Seymour
and things that can kill us global moments cyclone al

(01:28:18):
for like the whole bunch of stuff from none of
us are about.

Speaker 11 (01:28:20):
You're making like a new version if we didn't start
the fire there. I'm quite enjoyment.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Maybe this is the The twenty twenty six rework K
Pop Demon Hunters came in at number seven. I also
googled that. I'm not gonna lie. I googled it because
I was like, once again, like Charlie Kirk, what the
hell is going on here? Also six seven came in
at number nine, and that definitely is a moment of
what the hell is going on here? We googled somehow

(01:28:47):
to stuff, how to make butter, I mean that's probably
an indication of the I mean that was the time,
wasn't it when butter was so expensive and stillers? How
to invest money and shares, how to make buttermilk. Number four,
How to get rid of bug? They had bedbugs, New Zealand.
What's going on if enough of us have bedbugs that
it is coming up in the Google search. It's starting

(01:29:08):
to make me feel a little bit worried. Definitions I
can honestly say, of the top ten definitions, I only
know the definition to one plantier tacki plarens loris hubris.
Yeah you know that one atria zity uro boris or
go see tan. It's like it's another language. Internet trends.

(01:29:29):
What is the six seven trend? Popped up again? Of course,
and then a whole bunch of sports events.

Speaker 11 (01:29:33):
Our sincere apologies if you're driving with kids in the
car at the moment and they've just been going nuts
ever since we said six seven. There, I've just set
them off again.

Speaker 6 (01:29:40):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Do they have to shout it out every time you?

Speaker 14 (01:29:43):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:29:43):
They love it? They love it. Yep, they go for
the our nuts whenever the six seven comes out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Yeah, okay, he just did it too multiple times on purpose.
Sports events Club World Cup India versus or England Auckland
FC comes in at number three, well done, and then
at number ten New Zealand versus West Indies and the
reason we're googling that was because we're all trying to
figure out why the West West Indies sucked so much. Indo,
Brady is with us next sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.
The Business Hour with Heather Dupasy Allen and Ma's Motor
Vehicle Insurance. Your future is in good hands. News Talk
z'd be here.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
The brook was on that most most googled list because
she's got the girl next door. Look, I see what
you're doing there. You're going Google images, aren't you? Thirteen
away from seven into Brady. UK correspondent Alo Ender.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
Hello, have her great to speak to you again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Charles was very funny with the German, wasn't he?

Speaker 6 (01:30:38):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
I thought this was a brilliant speech. So the President
of Germany is here, Frank Walter Steinmeier.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
He's here on a.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
Three day state visit with his wife Elka, a former judge,
and Charles holted a banquet for them in Windsor last night,
and he flicked between English and German very confidently and
pointed out that there is now a brilliant working relationship
between Germany and the UK and long may it continue.
And then Steinmeier in his speech just pointed out just

(01:31:08):
how difficult things got in the years after brigsit and
how much stronger the ties are now. So three day
state visit, the state banquet is done in Windsor. Tomorrow
they will go to Coventry City to look at the
ruins of the cathedral bomb by the Luftwaffe in nineteen
forty and has not been touched since, so poignant touch

(01:31:28):
to it as well. But the overriding two themes from
this state visit is the brilliant relationship between Berlin and
London now and strength and solidarity for Ukraine from these
two countries.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
So what do you make of the fact that Andrew's
staying in Royal Lodge for longer? How's that going to
go down with Panters?

Speaker 5 (01:31:48):
It's entirely predictable because of the entitled nature and arrogance
of the man. And he can't read the room. Look,
I think most people are struggling to pay their own
bills this Christmas, and people who have mortgages and rent
and pay their way in life, as opposed to someone
who's never paid a penny for anything ever.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
His toast.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
I mean he just needs to read the room and
not just get out of Royal Lodge. I think he
needs to get out of the UK and just for
his own good start afresh. Somewhere there are whispers about
Bahrain or somewhere else in the Middle East, but what
we're hearing today and Charles's people dispute this, but the
agreement was that he would have twelve months to leave
Royal Lodge. I think people would be very upset if

(01:32:30):
we're looking at Christmas twenty twenty six and Andrews still
in that mansion.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
I suspect you might be right on that one. Now
do you think that the Russian money that's been seized
will be helped to rebuild Ukraine in the end.

Speaker 5 (01:32:45):
So this is an awful lot of money that is
sitting in various different financial institutions in Belgium. It's about
one hundred and sixty billion en z dollars, crazy amount
of cash. It is originally of Russian origin, and the
European Union sees it within weeks of the invasion of Ukraine.
So what's happening now is Ursulav Underlyon has made it clear.

(01:33:05):
So she's the boss of the European Union. She has
made it clear that that amount of money will fund
Ukraine for the next two years, keep the country alive,
keep people afloat, keep them going, and she's made it
clear she will take that money and use it for Ukraine. Now,
the problem is the Belgians are very, very worried. Two things.

(01:33:26):
They fear being made liable for that amount of money
if the Russians legally come after Belgium. And then secondly
they're worried about if they hand the money over with
Putin then start hybrid war or carrying out nasty little
attacks on Belgian soil or Belgian citizens or anyone he
wants to take out in Belgium. So it's up for discussion.

(01:33:47):
But Ursulav Underlyon has made it clear one hundred and
sixty billion big ones sitting in Belgium, we can make
good use of that for the people of Ukraine and
hurt the Russians at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Yeah, Inda, thanks as always, really appreciate your time. That
we'll talk to you next week. This is into Brady,
UK correspondent. You know the Guardian, the UK Guardian as
a bit of the Wokester paper, right, so you'd expect
that the that they would like. I don't know, maybe
I'm maybe I'm wrong here, but I would have expected
that the Guardian would generally be you know, kind to people,

(01:34:18):
and would also be sort of, you know, more likely
to default in a fight between Meghan and Harry and
the Royals, you know, they would defer to Meghan and
Harry because Meghan and Harry are the Wokesters, right. This
is The Guardian's review of Meghan's new show With Love.
I'm just going to read you the start because I
think you get everything here With Love Meghan Holiday Celebration review,

(01:34:38):
Take Anti nausea pills. She's back. She literally skipped through
a Christmas tree farm, serves food that looks like animal droppings,
and cooks a meal that Prince Harry hates. Assume the
crash position before watching, so you decide whether you want
to watch this or not. Nine away from seven.

Speaker 11 (01:34:55):
Heather, Just quickly. We've had an alternative hypothesis from producer
Laura about why Van Velden was googled so much. Oh yeah,
couldn't have something to do with a four letter word
that she said in Parliament at one point this year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Oh yeah, maybe that, But then why was Stuart Nash
googled so much.

Speaker 11 (01:35:12):
Yeah, that's right. And then there was a certain writer,
a generalist to use that word as well, Mane.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
And Andrea who actually started the whole thing. She wasn't googled.

Speaker 11 (01:35:19):
Yeah, yeah, you're right, and never mind it's against it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
There's I think must be a confluence of things. What
I think has happened is that Brooker's good looking like Stewart.
She has used the bad word like Andrea. But she's
the only one who combines both good looking and the
bad word.

Speaker 11 (01:35:37):
And that's why you were pep, Stuart Nash.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Yep, there you go, there you go. You got to
use the sea word, Stewart Nash. Eight away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
I don't think Stuart Nash would have any trouble using
the sea word. But what was the word that he used? Dance?

Speaker 6 (01:35:57):
Uh?

Speaker 11 (01:35:58):
Was it a word he used or.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
I think I think I think Todd McLay got an
explete of laden text. But I think the worst that
he ever came the worst that he came out.

Speaker 11 (01:36:08):
With was was the F bomb, right, okay, so the
second worst one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yeah, so the other worse it's not enough. Now you
want to get up to.

Speaker 11 (01:36:15):
Snow wars and what makes a woman?

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Oh yeah, actually that was probably arguably worse. I don't know,
it's right up there anyway. Can I just suggest that
maybe doctor ceo he Ashley Park from Victoria University of
Wellington just needs to chill out a little bit. So
old mate works at the School of History, Philosophy, Political
Science and International Relations. And she's hit the threads right,

(01:36:41):
which is like, it's like the it's the alternative to Twitter.
It was there for a bit they were supposed to
take off with anyway, I didn't it isn't this a nonsense?
But she's on there with her mates and she took
a screen grab of a student's email to her and
the email started with hey ce or he and so
see he pops it up on the threads and she
writes and it's els like she's written this in Korean

(01:37:01):
based on the news reporting of it. She's written, I
really hate emails that start with hay. And she goes
on to say New Zealand culture is a little bit
more relaxed than you know, many other cultures and that's true,
and she doesn't mind being called by her first name,
which I'm glad because that's all we're going to call
you by mate. We're not going to call you doctor Parker.
We it's New Zealand. But then she says she just
cannot abide starting an email with hay. I told them

(01:37:23):
to write more formally next time, and that I don't
reply to emails to start with hay. Yeah, just unnecessary
level of anxiety about that word. I think, yeah, it's fine,
it's okay. Ants the late hey ants, yep, yeah, hey ans,
what what have you got?

Speaker 11 (01:37:41):
A pat by Rose and Bruno Mars the number one
New Zealand song on Spotify this year, according to Spotify.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Rap I don't think you got the joke? Did you answer?

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
I know Laura will explain to you later. Don't worry
if somebody will have to obviously. Yeah, now listen ants
explains it? Hey, ants, explain something to me really quickly.
So this is the top New Zealand song. But is
this a New Zealand song?

Speaker 11 (01:38:04):
Yeah? So I's got Bruno Mars the other one. Rose.
She was born in New Zealand. She moved to Australia
when she was young, started doing her singing there, was
picked by a K pop group called Black Pink, who really,
oh well, the company that runs Blackpink. So she went
over to Korea for her music career. So she's done
all her music stuff in Australia and Korea.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
But she is a key where she was born here
long Bow. But you know what they take it.

Speaker 11 (01:38:25):
It was good enough for Dragan, good enough for her,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Yep, that's true. Hey, enjoy your evening, See you

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
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