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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm not questions, answers, facts analysis. The Drive show you
trust for the full picture. Heather Duplicylan Drive with one
New Zealand. Let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
That'd be afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up today.
Labor may help national get that policy costings unit across
the line. This is the one that act in New Zealand. First,
don't want We're going to talk to David seymore about it.
Do you want to know what kids think are cool nowadays?
The old school digital cameras will find out why. And
the number of apartments coming to Auckland has crashed. We'll
speak to the real of state agents about that.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Heather Duplicy, Ellen right, tell me.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
What you think of this. There seems to be a
bit of an effort underway at the moment to portray
IID as bad guys because they're chasing Kiwis overseas who
owe money on their student loans. Now, tell me if
you think that we should let either of these two
off the hook on the money that they owe. The
first is a pilot who moved to Australia ten years ago.
He now owes IRD one hundred and seventy thousand dollars

(01:00):
That is his original loan, plus basically mostly interest. He
says he moved there for a pilot job in twenty fourteen.
Then he lost the pilot, did it for six years,
lost it during COVID, had to take a low paying
job in a storage warehouse. He's a pilot pilot again,
but this loan is so big he doesn't know if
he's ever going to be able to pay it back.
Should we let him off his debt or do you

(01:22):
like me look at what a regional commercial pilot in
Australia can earn, which is over one hundred thousand dollars
and possibly even closer to two hundred thousand Australian dollars,
and think he can probably afford to start paying back
that debt. The second is a woman who has a
debt of seventy thousand dollars now. She moved to the
United States twenty years ago. She wants to come back
now to see her sick mum, but she can't because

(01:44):
she's worried that she's going to be arrested at the border.
Should we wipe her debt so she can come home
and see her sick mum? Or do you like me,
think that's entirely her decision. She can come back and
see her sick mum. Ain't nobody stopping her doing that,
And maybe when she gets here we'll have a little
chat about it how she can start to make some
repayments on that debt, or she can carry on like
she is, which is clearly valuing her money over her

(02:06):
mum not coming back. And by the way, arrests over
the border only happen to the worst defenders who've ignored
all attempts by IID to sort out the debt. Now,
don't think me callous, right, I do feel sorry for
both of these people and everybody else like them, because
I imagine it's a horrible situation to be in to
allow your debt to get that out of hand. But
that is not an excuse not to pay it back.

(02:28):
ID is, from what I can tell, pretty reasonable here,
so much so that woman's seventy thousand debt has now
been reduced to only fifteen thousand dollars, so it just
covers the original debt and the interest. The penalties have
been wiped. This is them coming to the party to
try to help. Sorry, the free riders over the repayments
need to start. New Zealand has broke. We actually need
this money back. I applaud ID for going hard on this,

(02:50):
and so far I'm completely unmoved by any attempts to
paint them as bad guys. I am yet to come
across a single case where I think that IID is
being unfair asking for the student loan to be repaid
together do see out nine two nine two is the
text number standard text fees apply. Now this is a
weird one. Turns out a few Kiwis are actually buying
houses on a whim. It's been a survey by real
estate dot co dot z and it's asked participants if

(03:12):
they'd ever ended up owning a house that they first
saw when they weren't thinking of buying. Twenty four percent
of people said yes they had. Eight percent of people
said that actually done it in the past year. Rawden
Christy is a realist that agent and with us. Now, Hey,
Rawden good, Hello, how are you very well? Thank you?
Have you come across a case like this?

Speaker 3 (03:31):
God?

Speaker 4 (03:32):
You know, I would love these buyers to come knocking
on my door. Quite frankly, when buyers it's really hard
to get buyers over the line in this buyer's market.
But look, I think I think the reality is anyone
who's going out and suddenly decides are going to buy
a house is probably thinking about it, even subconsciously, because
it's just not the sort of thing you're going to
do with a second without a second thought, particularly in

(03:53):
the market the way it is today, there is so
much due diligence, There are so much regulation, there are
so much stuff you have to go through before you
actually sign in the bottom line on the dotted line.
Rather that, I think, I don't know, I would find
it very hard to believe that there is a vast
number of people out there suddenly deciding to buy their
biggest investment without doing much homework.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Well what about this as an example? And I just
wonder how broad it feels to me like this is
quite a broad whoop side did at by mistake kind
of you know definition of that. But what about this
example where somebody is just doom scrolling because they love
to look at house porn, real estate porn, and they're
just doomscrow they go, oh my gosh, look their house
is actually affordable. Maybe we should buy that. Would you
consider that would be I think technically I didn't mean

(04:36):
to buy it, but you're saying, in the back of
your mind, you're only on there because you actually do
want to buy it.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
And having said that, for for what you've just described, though,
does happen, and it's the most fantastic thing, because that
is a really emotional purchase. That's people who are I
don't know, it's a dream coming true, even though they
didn't realize they were.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Having the dream until they had it.

Speaker 7 (04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (04:55):
But and so that does happen. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
The reason why that doomscroll is because they probably are
ready to maybe do something, they just haven't wanted to
admit to the fact they're about to make the commitment.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Do you doom scroll.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
All sorts of things? It would be ghastly to look
through my history. But yeah, no, I mean houses, absolutely
you have to.

Speaker 9 (05:15):
We have to.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
We have to know what's going on in the market,
and the only way we can do that is to
make sure that we're trying to get our head around
as much as we possibly can about listings, what's selling,
what's not, what's changing, methods of sale, et cetera. There's
no doubt, but this idea of buying. Oh how's the market, Yeah, fantastic,
two seven to four. Yeah, couldn't be better.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Tell me the truth now.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Uh, definitely seeing a lift in it, there's no I mean,
it's a wave. If we're seeing a positive wave, whether
and this is a stock related thing, supply and demand.
At the moment, the supply is just beginning to wave
at the demands on the way up. That will probably
change again in the spring and then again in the
late summer. But there's no doubt. In the last two
weeks we've sold probably as many properties as we had

(06:00):
the two months before it, so we've seen a real uplift.
Whether that changes back in a few weeks time, I
don't know. But winter, I reckon is a key time
to selling, when everyone assumes, oh, we're not going to
list now. So there's the supply drops off, the buyers
are still there, even those buying on a whim are
still looking in the middle of winter and rowden.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Do you know metism I do.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
And I did see the article today about him doing
pretty much what I did. He went he's obviously been
doing what I did, which is the sort of speaking
circuit and media stuff, and now he's decided to sort
of go for it, and I just wish him the
very best of luck. In fact, I was thinking of
flicking him a message to say, reach out, give us
a call if you want my experience, because it's not

(06:43):
an easy journey. But I can understand why he's doing it.
I'm pleased I did it. He's got a hell of
a good learning curve ahead of him.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
What do you Reckon's the hardest thing about switching from
Telly to real estate.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Controlling everything about your own life Suddenly, I think you
know you are running your own business, your time management.
There's no one there telling you you've got a deadline
of this or that, and you have to you know,
you know what it's like, howe you know, you've got
a prep a certain amount of material by a certain time,
you've got to present it and then you're done until
the next day or whatever this is. You've got to

(07:18):
be able to control your own life to such an
extent that you have to be incredibly well organized. And
that's probably the hardest thing I've found.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, hey, thank you, rud and I appreciate it. Watch out,
Ma's going to give you a call. In a minute,
He'll have been listening. Ruden Christy real estate agent, everybody,
everybody that I used to work with us, but it didn't.
What about Hamish has become a real what's a turner?

Speaker 9 (07:38):
Man?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's Hamish, Hamish, Hamish from Sport. No, it's not Hamuch
Mackay you guys, shame on you. Hamish became well, I
couldn't remember either good Hamish became a real estate agent.
Rawdon became a real estate agent, Matt became a real
estate agent. And Nick Minert I'm going to be a
real estate agent. We're all doing it. Listen. Looks like

(07:59):
Trump got absolutely nowhere on that phone call with Putin.
This is the sixth one he's had with them. Putin
is not going to give up, he says, he's not
going to give up on his goal of eliminating the
quote root causes of the war in Ukraine Now. Apparently,
according to a spokesperson, Russia will not back down. And
when they talk about root causes, what they mean is
Ukraine wanting to join NATO and then being used, they say,

(08:22):
by the Western Alliance as a launch pad to attack Russia.
That's the root cause that they're trying to wipe up
Trump says he's not happy with the war in Ukraine.
Quarter past.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
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Speaker 2 (08:38):
Hither about ten years ago. So hubby brought a new car,
so we took it for a drive to Munga Fie
and then we bought a batch on a women. We're
not even rich, are you.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Sure, Philippah?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Those are the days you could afford property. Sadly we
sold it before it went nuts up there. Hey, well listen,
I love that you live like a gangster. Good for you.
Eighteen past four Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters with US
high Piney.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
I haven't even bought junk food on a whim, let
alone a batch.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
No imagine being able to just buy a batch on
a whim What do you reckon? Whim What would it
take for you to walk into a batch and go, yeah,
I need to have this right now.

Speaker 8 (09:11):
Well, a much bigger salary, probably the drive job, I
would say, do Joz, I.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Reckon you need to aim higher? Yeah all right, I
reckon you need to aim a lot higher because I
don't know that I don't know that this job allows
you to buy a batch on a whim. I'll let
you know when that happens, Bonie, because I'll buy you
a batch too. Now let's talk about the All Blacks.
What do we need to see from them the big,
big first testimer or what do we need to see
from them to be convinced that, yep, they're the real

(09:37):
deal and good to go?

Speaker 10 (09:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (09:39):
I think, I mean we all know that the first
test of the year, the All Blacks are never perfect.
They you know, there's a lot of excitement and hype
around about the first Test of any year because well
for that very reason, the first time we get the
chance to see them. I just think, you know, against
a pretty underwhelming French side, we'd like to see good
wins obviously, but also you know, a couple of couple

(10:00):
new faces, some combinations that you know were forged last
year and have and have developed over time. But also
I think a game plan from Razor as to how
he expects to attack the year, and I think seeing
two Paul v in the number six jerseys a bit
of a clue to that. Are they looking down the
track to the you know, the big tests against South
Africa when there are some big bodies coming our way

(10:23):
and thinking, right, we need to bulk up in some
areas as well. So look like I say, I don't
think it'll be perfect tomorrow night under the roof, it'll
be good running rugby. I hope France, I'm sure will
give it a crack. But yeah, I think if they
get a win and we see some we see some
exciting stuff, that's probably a tick in the box for
the first test of the season.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
So we were watching the Warriors at home last weekend
and one of the commentators on Telly's a lady and
my husband turned me piney and he said, how do
you feel about women commenting on rugby league? And I said,
I don't know why. Why anyways, because because women don't
play rugby league. Well, it's like, I'm not sure that.

Speaker 8 (11:02):
I'm not sure that's true.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So should we tell them that the Warriors women are
coming back to the NRLW.

Speaker 8 (11:09):
I think we should. I think we should. We can
use this forum for it. You could tell them privately
later if you like. But yes, Sunday they're back after
a five year absence. They were there just sort of
in and around the pre COVID times they tried to
get back a couple of times, didn't work. Now they
are back. Look, this is you know, this is really
really interesting to see how they'll go. They've got a

(11:30):
lot of converts from rugby union, a few black fans
have come in there. There's high excitement about the fact.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
That they're back.

Speaker 8 (11:37):
Look, we love the Warriors, we love the Warriors men's side.
I don't see why we shouldn't jump on this band
wagon as well and see how they'll go. There won't
be favorites against the Roosters on Sunday. These are teams.
Every team they play has been around for a lot
longer than they have. So yeah, they'll they'll, they'll, you know,
they'll take some time, but I'd like to think that
they'll be a pretty decent watch across the year.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, well, I know somebody who's going to have to
watch it just to you know. That's yes, come out
for I love donate.

Speaker 8 (12:02):
I love that man.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Finey, thanks so much, Jason Fine Weekend Sport host. He'll
be back mid day to three tomorrow and Sunday hither.
I moved to North America to stay with my dad's family,
and I came back in twenty twenty one. I worked
in a warehouse as a pickapacker while I was there,
and I was paying my student loan back at three
hundred dollars per month, even though the requirement was that
I only pay five hundred dollars per quarter. Right, So
that's nine hundred bucks per quarter this person was paying

(12:26):
instead of five hundred per quarter. I idea allows you
to pay with the credit card online. If I can
do it, so can other's ben exactly, you're the kind
of person we want back. Thank you for doing that. Hey,
very interesting move from Labor today. Now Labor have reached
across the aisle to help out Nikola Willis. Nikola Willis
wants to set up an election policy costing unit, but
she doesn't have the numbers in Parliament to do it

(12:46):
because New Zealand First and Act said no, not going
to help you, So she's on her own. So Labor
was like, hey, we'll help you, We'll do it. So
they've agreed to it. Well, they've offered their help. At
the stage, it's unclear whether Nicholas actually going to take
them up on it. There seems to be a little
bit of negotiation that needs to happen. We said to Labor,
come on, come on, come on, Babs from Labor, come
on as Barbara Edmonds. They can't get a hold of her.

(13:08):
She's not answering her phone. Not even her press secretary
can get her on the phone. But which is understandable.
Bads has got eight children, so probably one of them
is playing what's that game that you play on the phone,
Roadblocks or something. They've got the phone. They're playing Roebucks. Nobody.
Babs doesn't even know she hasn't got her phone. We
asked Nichola, Nicholas busy, Nicholas. Nichola's got four children, but
somehow she's financing a star. I think she's actually doing

(13:30):
the job because she does actually come on the show
once a week. Bads has yet to come on the
show with me. So anyway, just I've just just saw
about it. It just pointing it out. So anyway, we're gonna
talk to David Seymour instead. Babs, if you hear this,
because you've got a radio but not a phone, can
you call Adam, your press guy, and then he can
call us and we can organize that thing, because we'd
still like to talk to you at five Thanks four

(13:52):
twenty three.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Moving the big stories of the day forward, it's Heather
Dupers Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
The news talks have be Oh.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Gosh, I forgot to tell you we're in trouble with
the Fairy Holdings Limited. Faery Holdings Limited are the people
that Winston Peters has set up to buy the new
fairies for us, for us collectively for New Zealand where
we drive Heather do Blissy Island Drive. We are in
trouble with Fairy Holdings Limited. And we're in trouble with
them because yesterday we had their competitor on the show,

(14:24):
Blue Bridge, and we were just having a good old
chat with Blue Bridge about how awesome blue Bridge is
because they're privately owned and hey, they decided just before
Christmas to buy a fairy and look at that. The
fairy arrived yesterday, seven months later, no problem. And they
bought a second hand fairy when we've been told there
are no secondhand fairies available in the whole wide world. Well,
Fairy Holdings Limited heard that and boy did it get

(14:44):
their goat, It really did, because it's it's not apples
with apples, is it? Because they needed a different kind
of secondhand fairy. So anyway, we said to come on
the show, then come on, come have a come have
a caught it or my about it, and so they are.
So they're gonna be the to five o'clock. So get
your if you if you feel like Jesus, high time
that bloody here. They got a telling off. She begged

(15:06):
for her boots, all the opinions up the wazoo, thinks
she knows everything. If you, if you feel like somebody
needs to come in here and sort her out, well
Chris is gonna do it. So get your pop call.
Come on listen, let's all get together for that. Anyway, Heather,
we ended up buying a house on Facebook Marketplace. What

(15:26):
certainly wasn't looking for one. That's a bold call. I
wouldn't buy anything on Facebook marketplace. I heard that somebody
was repeatedly selling the same guitar on Facebook market Place.
Multiple people bought the same guitar and none of them
got it. Imagine if that happened with the house. Hither
I want IID to go after those that leave New
Zealand on the student loan thing even harder. They entered
into an agreement where we paid the majority their learning

(15:47):
in the small amount they needed to pay that even
avoided by leaving the country to right Darren, how they going?
I think Ida is doing fine at the moment, but
if they wanted to go harder, I wouldn't mind. Headline's
next time, get this.

Speaker 11 (16:00):
In with me.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's
hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get
connected news talk sa'd be.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Hei.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
There is the any sign of the hushroom jury, Marie? No,
unfortunately not. We're in day five now, and you know
what this means, don't you? And because I mean, look,
let's be honest about it. I don't care how nice
that hotel is. I don't want to do a weekend
in the hotel away from my family, do you. Probably
the jury doesn't want to either. So this means that
they're not just drawing this out so that they can

(16:43):
have room service and in a nice you know, soak
in the in the spa bath. They are doing this
because genuinely, there are some people there who think she's anescent. Anyway,
I have got some good news on that though, So anyway,
at this stage, it's probably looking like we're into next week.
Got some good news on that though. The ABC are
going to turn this into a TV drama and it's

(17:04):
going to be called toxic. So if you haven't quite
had the mental stamina to stick with us all through
nine weeks of evidence and so on, they're going to
condense it into a tight little package for you and
you can enjoy it all in one go. Twenty three
away from five.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
It's the world wires on Youth Talks. They'd be drive
the motion is adopted.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act has got through Congress
after a busy day of nights negotiating. All but two
of the House Republicans voted.

Speaker 12 (17:33):
Trump is stoked.

Speaker 13 (17:34):
There could be no better Birthday present for America than
the phenomenal victory we achieved just hours ago when Congress
passed the One Big Beautiful Bill to make America great again.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
And the rest of the Republicans are pretty stoked too.
It is the Golden Age of America again.

Speaker 14 (17:51):
America is coming back.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And finally, it's Pride Week in Spain and Madrid has
hosted its annual high he race. Competitors of all genders
had to race down the street enchoes with a minimum
size of the fiend centimeters. That's a big heal. The
race features two pit stops, one where competitors are provided
address to put on on, one where they put their
their get their lippy done up.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
A Friday sports Tuddle which international correspondence with ends and
eye insurance, peace of mind for New Zealand business bit.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Early the Friday Sports Huddle all the bit of us
in an hour's time. Right now we have out of
the US Jonathan Kursley, Channel nine, US correspondent, Hey, Jonathan, Heather.

Speaker 15 (18:30):
Always good to talk to you and the listeners across
the beautiful, vast specific ocean.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Okay, so what's in this big beautiful bell Act.

Speaker 15 (18:38):
Well, let's say it's seven trillion New Zealand dollars worth
of funding. It essentially is what Donald Trump wants to
have as his legacy item. It is funding for defense.
It is funding for tax cuts to be expanded largely too,
though Democrats have been critical of cuts that it has
made to Medicare that could effect effectively the health coverage

(18:58):
from right about twelve mins Americans or so.

Speaker 14 (19:01):
So it's a vast number of Americans who could be impacted.

Speaker 15 (19:03):
By this, but he sees this really is a big
investment in the future. He wants to expand the border wall,
he wants more investment to go into the military, he
wants more investment to tackle his border force and immigration issues.
So that is largely where a significant portion of that
money is going towards. It is a vast portion of money.
The huge concern has been obviously, including from Elon Musk,

(19:25):
that it is going to increase America's deficit by potentially
trillions of dollars. So this has managed to make its
way through Congress. It has taken a very long time.
It's snuck through the Senate with JD. Evance making the
tie breaking vote, and then it was only a couple
of Republicans who went against Donald Trump.

Speaker 14 (19:45):
Much to his dissatisfaction.

Speaker 15 (19:47):
But after hours and hours and hours of debate in
the House, finally, as expected, it went through very very
narrow margin for Donald Trump.

Speaker 14 (19:54):
But he has the numbers, so he got it through.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
So he's managed to get a win on that, but
doesn't look like he's going to get a win with
usan does it.

Speaker 14 (20:01):
No, it doesn't. I mean, this is the conflict between
Russia and Ukraine. He said he could end in the day.
He is sub six.

Speaker 15 (20:07):
Months now into his presidency and he hasn't got there yet.
He's had six phone calls with Vladimir Putin's, you'd have
another with voladimirs Vilensky tomorrow US time.

Speaker 14 (20:16):
But still there is no sign of this conflict ending.

Speaker 15 (20:19):
I mean, there's some suggestion Russia might now be about
to launch another offensive inside Ukraine, and Russia is essentially,
as it has said all along, wants to maintain the
territory that he has essentially gone into Ukraine with. It
wants to take essentially where its troops are now and
draw that as a Russian border. But when you look
at the historic maps that Russia believes that Ukraine is

(20:41):
essentially according to the old Soviet ey as well, really
Ukraine to them is only Kiev. So they have waged
this war four years now and it shows little side
of ending. Voladimi's Zelenski's been in Europe trying to get
the backing of European leiters once more. That is going
to be crucial to him, and he knows that because
America has slowly started to even recently just paused a

(21:04):
whole bunch of weapons help that was going to go
his way. So another call with Vladimir Putin, but seemingly
no end of this war and such just yet.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Jonathan, do you reckon that Donald Trump is serious about
this UFC event a the White House?

Speaker 14 (21:17):
Boy, oh boy, oh boy.

Speaker 15 (21:18):
I mean, there's been plenty of ideas floated that he
has yet to.

Speaker 14 (21:22):
Come up with one. If you want to wind the
clock back.

Speaker 15 (21:24):
He talked about turning Gaza into a riviera of the
Middle East.

Speaker 14 (21:28):
I mean, there's been no sign of that happening.

Speaker 15 (21:30):
He talked about taking it under American control, under American
ownership for a period of time. Yes, he's flagged this
idea tonight in Iowa, where he's essentially on the eve
of America's Independence Day, suggested that to help celebrate the
two hundred and fiftieth year of America's independence, which of
course is coming up, that what better way, in his eyes,
to celebrate it than with a UFC fight on the

(21:50):
lawns of the White House. He says, We've got big grounds,
we could host it there. Of course, he's been right
in the arms of the UFC bosses day to White
since essentially many many years now, he turns up to
these UFC bouts regularly, and he seems to think it
would be a wonderful television event. We all know that
the President of the United States of America loves the
way that things look on television, and this seems to

(22:12):
be one way he thinks he could help America celebrate
two hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 14 (22:17):
Fight in the White House quite literally.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Ah, brilliant, Hey, thank you so much, Jonathan, appreciate it.
Jonathan Kursley, Channel nine US correspondent. Trump said, we have
a lot of land there. This is the White House.
We have a lot of land there. We're going to
build a little We are not Dana is going to
do it. We're going to have a UFC Fight Championship fight,
full fight, like twenty to twenty five thousand people, and

(22:39):
we're going to do that as part of two fifty.
Also two fifty being the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.
I can't think of a better way, can you to
celebrate the US Declaration of Independence? Then attacky old UFC fight.
Having said that, you're tuning in, aren't you. I'm chuning in.
We're all tuning in because we want to see the
shenanigans that goes down when he does stuff like this

(23:01):
to Victoria, that childcare worker case in Victoria, that you know,
the guy who's been a terrible creep with children. Joshua
Brown just unbelievably upsetting to the people over there. But
have a listen to this. His mum is famous too,
and not for good reasons. His mum, Tracy Brown, was

(23:21):
a prison officer, and Tracy Brown featured in an inquest
a couple of years ago. It was the inquestion to
the death of a woman. She died in jail. It
seems it's hard quite a kind of little lard to
figure it out, but I think she died from terrible
withdrawals from Heroine anyway. Whatever, She was incredibly sick for
like a number of hours, making a hell of a
lot of noise. Tracy Brown, the mum just paid her

(23:43):
no attention, told her to shut up. She said later
she called a nurse for help. She hadn't.

Speaker 16 (23:47):
She lied.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
So that's the son, that's the mum. Sixteen away from.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Five politics was centric credit, check your customers and get
payments certainty.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Right, It's fourteen away from five. Jason Wall's News Talks
political leaders is with a fellow Jason.

Speaker 11 (24:01):
Good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
So what's raw what you have been up to? Well?

Speaker 11 (24:05):
I mean it comes from a social media post that
he made a couple of weeks ago, and he basically
he was praising Bikino Faso's president Ibrahim Traore in his
social media post, calling him a modern day hero. He
said there was a video of him making a speech
and in the comment attaching it said, tino ranga tiretanga
is not only a domestic commitment, it's an international determination

(24:29):
or fight for political economics, social and cultural independence and
liberation is not a dream, It's a decision.

Speaker 17 (24:35):
Now.

Speaker 11 (24:36):
David Seymour isn't pleased that this, given Traore's track record
is a little bit patchy. He says, his hero speaking
about Rai here is a Marxist dictator who has delayed
elections and banned homosexuality. Tipati Marii is not in parliament
to uphold democracy but wreck it now. The Human Rights
Watch has accused Bikino Faso's government forces and allied media

(24:59):
of massacring up to one hundred and thirty civilians in March,
So obviously this is not the sort of usual role
model people would have. Now, Chris Luxen was asked about
this today. Here's what he said.

Speaker 15 (25:11):
Well, it's pretty wacky remarks from Rawori, to be honest,
and ultimately that's a problem for the Labor Party because
he's going to be one.

Speaker 18 (25:17):
Of their four potential deputy promisters if that's the case.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
So I'd go ask Chris Hopkins about that.

Speaker 11 (25:21):
Now, there might be people listening to this being like,
why are you talking about this nonsense? It's not politics,
And to that I would say that we do have
a tendency. I mean, imagine if the shoe was on
the other foot, and it wouldn't even have to be
a sitting act Party member, even if it was like
some obscure candidate from some part of the country that
said that some fascists somewhere was his hero, it would
be coverage wall to wall everywhere. So it's just fair

(25:43):
to provide a little bit of balance when the shoe
is on the other foot.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Who said, why are we talking about this?

Speaker 11 (25:48):
Oh? I know. I'm just saying that there would be
people out there that listen to these sort of these
Beltway arguments that we have about what social media, what
politicians say on social media, and I can understand there
would be people out there saying act talk about the
real issues as opposed to just a couple of politicians
squabbling on social media.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
So what's Deborah been up to then.

Speaker 11 (26:06):
Deborah Russell, She went on Nick Mills's Wellington Morning Show
to say the following thing.

Speaker 19 (26:12):
But the biggest set of crime in this country is
actually domestic violence and we haven't seen the national government
responding to that meaningfully. And in fact police have been
told not to attend domestic violence crimes because they're not
as important as some other crimes.

Speaker 11 (26:26):
So police being told not to attend domestic violence crime.
As soon as I heard it, alarm bell started ringing
in my head, thinking that's probably not true. So I
followed up with the Police Minister, Mark Mitchell and he
said the claim that police have been told not to
attend domestic of violence incidents is complete nonsense. It is
another deliberate attempt from the opposition to undermine our hard

(26:47):
working police officers and mislead the public. He goes on
to say that police are triaging differently in relation to
social issues that are more appropriate for a non police response. However,
they have been very clear that they are not transitioning
away from attending family violence events that require police response.
In fact, according to Mark Mitchell, police are attending seven

(27:08):
point seven percent more family violence events as a Priority
one emergency event than had they they had previously been
doing so. In response to this, we did get in
contact with Deborah Russell, who is that she's a former
minister for the Labor Party. For those that don't know,
she said family violence is one of the most common
forms of violent crime and often unreported, which is what

(27:29):
I meant to say, which is not exactly what she
said on the problem.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
She did so she didn't mean to say that police
had been told not to attend DV anymore.

Speaker 11 (27:39):
No, she meant to say that family violence was one
of the most common forms of violent crime and is
often unreported, which you know, listen back to actually what
she said. So what she said she said. She was
meant to say family violence is one of the most
common forms of violent crime and is often unreported. Here's
what she said.

Speaker 19 (27:55):
But the biggest set of crime in this country is
actually domestic violence and we haven't seen the national government
responding to that meaningfully, and in fact police have been
told not to achieved domestic barance crimes because they're not
as important.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
As some other crimes.

Speaker 11 (28:10):
I don't know how she thought she meant to say
the other thing, but anyway, so.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
The other thing. Yees hey, Jason, what do you think
of the policy costing Unit's idea? Good or bad?

Speaker 20 (28:17):
Ah?

Speaker 11 (28:18):
To be honest, it would have been gamed politically and
it would have been I mean, it sounds good in theory,
but it just sounds like at the end of the day,
it would have just been a whole other level of
attacks that political parties would have had on this independent union,
despite the fact that it would have been independent. So
I think good. It was good in theory. I've always
thought that we need something like this like Australia has,

(28:39):
like other countries have, But I think it probably would
have become another political football. If I'm honest, I.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Actually agree with you on Mack. Jason. Thank you very much.
We'll read the political week that was with you later
on the show. That's Jason Wall's news talks. Hev politically,
so we'll come back to that policy costing unit. And
also got a problem with transmission Gully. Well tell you
about that.

Speaker 12 (28:55):
Nine away from five.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Putting the tough questions to the newsmakers. Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 18 (29:01):
Tampo updating the two thousand and nine Joint Management agreement
between the Council and NATI two Falta. The critics argue
the treaty principles are embidding co governance directly into council
operations near of Taos. David throu wad this proposed update
no public visibility, you would say.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Not true, Not true. We're set up a subcommittee now,
ready to present to the public and see what they say.

Speaker 18 (29:19):
What did the public go, We're sick of this, we
don't want it.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Well, we've got the stuff to go and do a payrian.
What consultation looks like? Is that a possibility?

Speaker 18 (29:26):
What do you mean as consultation of possibility?

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Surely you're going.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
To consult No, Well, it's an agreement between two party
tar and the Council.

Speaker 18 (29:33):
So maybe no consultation. David back Monday from six am
the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the land Driver, Discovery News
Talk z B hither.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't think it's fair to talk down Treory as
that report of the Jessup Walls has He's a hero
to most Africans, and he's probably not the one involved
in the killings purported. He has transformed his people's lives,
well I suppose, so tell you what he has transformed.
He's transformed the lives of gay people. I suppose by
banning homosexuality. So yeah, sounds like a really cool guy.

(30:01):
Five away from six. Now, on that policy costing unit,
we're going to talk to David seymore about it shortly.
I agree with Jason Will sounds like a really good
idea because who wouldn't love it? Right, You've got a party,
let's say Green Party comes out with an idea, some
sort of a policy or a budget or whatever, and
they go, this is what we think. That's hard things

(30:22):
should work, And how do we know if any of
those numbers actually are realistic? A policy costing unit like
this would be able to go through it and go,
oh yep, no, this looks cool or nah mah, you're
missing huge amount of money here. There's a fiscal whole
of two billion dollars or whatever, So be handy in
that respect. Right, But here's the thing. Parties already do this.
They already get their stuff independently costed. They could use

(30:44):
them for metrics. They can use Enzia, they could use
any of these people. They do it, they pay for it.
So why would we, as the tax payers, who are
already lumped with a significant amount of tax and not
enough money in this country? We have two little tax
for all the stuff we spend money on, why would
we want to now pay for it as well? We
would be like, oh, you guys are paying for that,

(31:05):
Come on here, we'll pay for it for you. No
terrible idea. Let them pay for it. They are really
paying for it. Why would we fix something that Why
would we fix something that ain't broke right? Just leave
them to it. So anyway, we'll talk to David about it.
See what he's got to say about that quickly. On
Transmission Gully, I didn't realize this, but Transmission Gully is
not just a high way for cars. It's also a
highway for ferrets. The conservationists really worried about it, because

(31:27):
the conservationists predator free Wellington have been spending donkeys years
and countless numbers of dollars trying to get rid of
all the ferrets and the stoats and the rats and
stuff out of Wellington City. Now they're worried about the
ferrets heading down from the carpety coast on Transmission Gully
because apparently pests like ferrets are lazy and they will
use the quickest way to get from a to B,
and a road the quickest way. So the ferrets are

(31:49):
going to start marching down the road. And already this
just sounds to you ridiculous right now, it doesn't it.
You're like, no, this is this is absolute bs. What
a load of toshh nana. Listen to this. There have
been heaps of pests that have been found in traps
along Transmission Gully and as roadkill on the road in
the fifteen months to January twenty four. January last year,

(32:10):
fifteen months pre that, there were two hundred and twenty
six pests found along the gully. Fifteen months since seven
hundred and one pest. It's almost a threefold increase. That
come in, I come in for your Wellington. The farthest
south that a ferret has been found on the motorway
was at Hayward's in twenty twenty three. It's just a
matter of time. They will breach those walls. Winter is coming.

(32:31):
I can't believe it. Never knew that was the risk.
I still would take the road, though, wouldn't you if
you were like the risk of the road is the
ferret's come a march and down from the Capity coast.
Used to be like, I'll take the road, take my
chances with those ferrets, right. David Seymore's next, and then
Crispin Ferry Holdings, who wants to give me a telling off?

Speaker 12 (32:47):
Stand by.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Digging through the spin spins to find the real story story.
It's hither dupussy on drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected news talks.

Speaker 20 (33:24):
That'd be.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Afternoon. Labor has popped to help National create a policy
costing unit. It's piped up because neither Act nor New
Zealand first want to help National, there by killing the
idea the unit would cost and verify political party's election promises.
David Seymour was the leader of the ACT party and
with us. Hello, David, Hey, how would you feel if
National goes behind your back and does this with Labor?

Speaker 9 (33:50):
Well, I didn't know this was a psychology show. It's
not about my feelings. But one thing I can tell
you is that the government has a position which that
we oppose this policy and we expect each other amongst
the three parties to vote together. Sometimes there are things
that one of the three or two of the three

(34:10):
parties even are not particularly happy with, but we will
go to the House and vote together on the issues.
So I don't know about feelings, but that would be
quite a departure from the way the government operates.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Okay, So you would expect that National will not take
labor up on the software.

Speaker 9 (34:25):
As a matter of collective responsibility. The National members are
part of a cabinet that forms a government which is
agreed that we're not doing this. So you know, everything's
opened to negotiation in life. But that would be your
starting point.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
What is your problem with the idea?

Speaker 9 (34:45):
Well, I think you've got to ask what problems it's solving.
You know, as a party, actors put out fully costed,
comprehensive alternative budgets every year that we've been in opposition.
Everyone has agreed that the accurate and fear may not
agree with the policies. That that's okay, that's politics, but
we them to be able to do it, so we

(35:06):
don't see the need for it. As for the problem
with it, a couple of things. One is I don't
like this idea that we New Zealanders are all kind
of a need of a bureaucracy to tell us what's
right and good or accurate. The truth is that the
bureaucracy frequently gets things wrong. There a good bunch of
New Zealanders, but they're not more correct than the rest

(35:30):
of us. Second of all, you know, the bureaucracy or
the government the government departments are held in check by
New Zealanders going to the polls and voting and elections
to change the direction of policy and basically keep them
under control. Now, for the bureaucracy to be involved in
the very process and effectively become a referee or a

(35:52):
judicator of the very process that is supposed to hold
it in check creates a difficult loop Constitutionally. It also
means that the bureaucracy is going to be involved and
assessing and making judgment calls about the nature of policies
that political parties are putting forward. So it politicizes. Then

(36:12):
there's no good reason to do it, no need for it.
But there's a lot of reasons why you might not
want to do it. Key amongst them is digging in
this idea that somehow, if you work for a government department,
you're a higher authority than any other New Zealander.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
David, thank you, appreciate your time. That's David Seymour, AXS
Party leader Heather do for ce Ellen. If you were
listening at this time last night, you would have heard
the boss of Bluebridge telling us about his new fairy
that's just arrived seven months after ordering it. Tell you
who also heard that the competition, The people buying our
new publicly owned fairies are not happy. Chris mackenzie is
the chair of that business, Faerry Holdings Limited. Hello Chris,

(36:49):
good evening. Okay, what are you unhappy about?

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Well, personally I'm not happy. First unhappy. Firstly, I'd like
to congratulate Blue Bridge. It's a good thing to have
a new theory. I think where the discussion is around,
and that is comparing blue Bridges purchasing and ours. If

(37:14):
you go back, the Ministerial Advisory Group, which was three
private sector people, advised government last year that there were
no suitable theories secondhand in the configuration that the government needed.
And just what I mean by that is the government
provides capacity all year round that the private sector can't afford.

(37:39):
So there's three thousands, not.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Because it's it's because of its rail capacity.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
It's nothing to do with rail capacity.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Okay, what is it then it's it's.

Speaker 5 (37:54):
The Ministerial Advisory Group advised ministers. There was no secondhand
theories in the configuration. And what I mean by that
is the size the passenger capacity that the government traditionally provides,
so that if you look at the Kiaohy of the Kaitaki,
for example, it's thirteen hundred and fifty passengers, whereas the

(38:17):
two Blue Bridges are five hundred passengers. So the government
provides that if you like that large capacity, that covers
your Christmas periods and everything else, and it wears the
cost of carrying all of that capacity twelve months of
the year.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
So basically the Olivia, which Bluebridge have just brought in
seven months, is simply not big enough.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
It doesn't have the passenger capacity. It has the cars
and the trucks and so forth, it doesn't have that
passenger capacity. And so what the government does is, rather
than having New Zealanders complain that they can't get from
north to south and vice versa over the holiday period
because of the restricted numbers, the government does provide that

(39:03):
larger number of yeah, yeah passengers.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
How come though they could decide just before Christmas, let's
buy a fairy and then they've got the thing pulling
into Wellington Harbor seven months later, and we are, what
seven years down the track and we've got nothing. We
haven't even we don't even know who who's building our fairies?

Speaker 5 (39:20):
No, we don't.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
How can we can't move as fast as them?

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Chris well hang On. New Zellan Railways purchased both the
Kai Teki and the Kaya Rahe second hand within the
same time span as Bluebridge did.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
But I'm talking about now right. You guys have been
together since February. That's March, April, May June July, so
even five months and five months and they'd already bought
the vessel. It was probably leaving Denmark within five months.

Speaker 10 (39:49):
No.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
No, what I'm saying is, if you go back to
when the Raitory lost as propeller, the rail company was
able to buy the Stenna a Leg and have it
in New Zealand within the same time span. The government
decided last year it would not go with secondhand feries,
and it asked for two new fairies to be built.

(40:13):
Buying a new fory is not a matter of just
going into a shipyard.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
No, I know that, but I mean surely like even
the negotiations to just like you haven't even decided who
you're going to buy it from and it's been five months.
That's donkeys.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
If the Minister Rail announced on Tuesday that we had
reduced from what was it, fifty one shipyards down to
six and those are.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Now I'm not impressed by this, Chris. So what where's
the fairy?

Speaker 5 (40:46):
The fairies will be there, we will sign.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I still have Chris, go away, do me a favor.
Go away if you have time. I know you're a
busy man. Go away and come back with a better
explanation for why you will take so long in the
public service to do things a way these guys in
the private service can do it so fast. I appreciate
your time. Thank you. That's Chris McKenzie, Chair of Fairy
Holdings Limited. Listen digital cameras. If you've got one lying
around the house, do not, for the love of God,

(41:13):
do not throw it away. Save it. The kids love it.
We'll explain why next quarter past. Heather David sounds tired.
Is he coping David. I think maybe he's tired, but
I also think factor in that David has got a
strategy of just taking potshots at the media all the time,
and that broadly includes this shows. It's just their strategy.

(41:34):
Just leave them to it. It's okay, you know. They
stick the cameras on, the microphones on themselves, are filming
it all the time. It's what act gets up to.
We're okay with that. They can do that. Eighteen past five,
here's a blast from the past. Remember those crappy film
and digital cameras we used to use before the iPhones
came in. It turns out the gen z as the
kids nowadays tripping over themselves to get their hands on
one of these things. Nick Coe is the manager for

(41:54):
Auckland Camera Center in Morningside and with us.

Speaker 21 (41:57):
Hey, Nick, good evening, Heather.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Are you selling a lot of these little digital cameras
to the kids?

Speaker 6 (42:03):
We are.

Speaker 21 (42:03):
We've seen a huge increase over the last few years
of these cameras. We've been selling them new, used, and
just whatever we can get our hands on. We just
can't keep them in style, right.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Kids want so many of them, you're running out.

Speaker 21 (42:19):
Yes, there certain models we are, but the sort of
uptake and demand for them has been huge.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Why do they love them so much?

Speaker 21 (42:30):
Well, I think there's a little bit of a split.
I think a lot of the younger kids, the gen
Z people, are wanting to kind of have a little
bit of a disconnect from their sort of digital lifestyle.
But also fashion k goes in circles, so I think
this is a little bit of a trendy thing as well.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Look, Nick, I can't be bothered with the fat can you,
Because you've got to take the photo, then you've got
to get the little memory card out, and then you've
got to download it on the computer, and then you've
got to upload it to Instagram. That just feels far
too hard, doesn't it.

Speaker 21 (43:04):
It can be, but it's not as hard as you
would think. And the sort of the vibe that you
get from the older cameras, I think it's hard to
get that from an iPhone.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
The iPhone photos and digital.

Speaker 21 (43:19):
Photos that you get out of your phone do look
really really quite perfect and quite honed. And there's a
lot of AI and things in these cameras now in
phones too, So these older cameras they give you a soft,
kind of led out look that they're really keen to
kind of chase and invest the extra time.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
To get Okay, Now, Nick, if anybody's got their hands
on a digital camera, you know, because I've got I've
got a bunch of them lying at the bottom of
the electronics box. Are they worth anything if I dig
them out?

Speaker 21 (43:50):
Well, they could be. You need to check it thoroughly
to make sure it's working properly and that the battery
charge is okay.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
But most digital cameras.

Speaker 21 (43:58):
You can get spear batteries and things. But sure, you
never know, maybe you might find somebody who might want
to use one, or you can resell it.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Or gift it well gifted as if I'm going to
make every dollar I can off it. Thank you, Nick,
Nick coey Auckland Camera senter Manager. What it is is,
I don't know if you're aware of it, but the kids,
the kids nowadays are just everything that we used to
do back in the day. They're doing so. You know,
you'd have your phone connected to your your aarphones with
a cord. They love that they got the chords back out.

(44:26):
You would have, you know, like a CD walkman. Do
you remember a CD walkman wasn't that just the most
annoying thing in the world, because you'd be walking with
your CD walkman, and we had skip skip skip skip
skip and you can't listen to They love it. Got
those out again, got the digital video recorders out again.
Got the digital cameras at it and why they love
the digit got the oh it doesn't even end there.
Got the cargo pants. Remember when the cargo pants were

(44:47):
big in the late nineties early two thousands, because Malcy
was wearing them from the spy skills. What about the
bell bottoms? They got them out again. The crop tops
with the middrift showing, got them out again. Like they're
doing it all. They're watching sex in the city, They're
watching reruns of Friends. Basically wish they were living in
the nineties and early two thousands. Welln't that great?

Speaker 11 (45:03):
It was?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Okay, it was a pretty good time. Actually come now, actually,
come to think of it, it was good time, but probably
better than now. Yeah, I can understand that anyway. So
why they're into the digital cameras is because the digital
cameras flash is so intensive, washes everything out and they
just they are vibing that look big time five twenty two.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Informed Inside into today's issues. It's Heather duplicy Ellen drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected news talk. Sa'd
be bick.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
We can for Dunedin obviously because the old French game
versus the All Blacks is on tomorrow night. We're gonna
head there shortly, just see how things are going and
then talk to the sports huddle before six o'clock. Right now,
it's twenty four past five. You know what, It hadn't
occurred to me until this week, how much trouble the
Labour Party is an on law and order And I
only realized it because of that Green MP Timotha Paul's TikTok.

(45:53):
You'll have heard about the TikTok buy now as we
talked about it on the show. This is the TikTok
video where Tam suggests that finding people for shop lifting
is a bit main because people only shoplift to put
food on the table, and so all we'll be doing
by finding them is criminalizing poor people as of completely
forgetting that her mate Goldris Garriman was not poor, given
that she was on a salary of around about one

(46:14):
hundred and seventy thousand dollars and she still liked a
little bit of the old five fingered discount. The TikTok
was so nutty that the Justice Minister, Paul Goldsmith dedicated
an entire press release to pointing out that Tam thinks
it's okay to steal things from other people. Now, this
is the trouble that Labor has got. Tamotha Paul is
not just some nobody Green MP. She is the Green
Party's Corrections and Police spokesperson. And this was not a

(46:37):
brain fart. This is a theme. Tam wants quote radical
police abolition. She also doesn't like beat policing, she doesn't
like them walking on the street. And she also launched
a fundraising campaign for a group wanting to defund the
police and close the court system altogether. Now how does
Labor work with that? How does Labour come to us

(46:58):
the voters and say, hey, we've heard you know, you
don't like the crime. So we're going to go hard
on crime. We're going to stop the shoplifting. We're going
to have more police going to lock up more bad guys.
They might not be able to do that. They can't
say any of that because it might not be able
to do that, because they might win the election and
then go into coalition with the Green Party and then
Tam will say nop, not going to do that. Now
you knew Labour because I knew this. You and I

(47:19):
both know Labour's got a problem convincing us about wealth
taxes because the Greens love that, and you know that
they've got a problem kind of explaining all of the
Maori parties nutty stuff away. But now you can add
to that law and order as another coalition party problem,
Heather do for see Allen Heather. The interview with the
guy from the Fairies helps me to understand why it
takes so long for us to get anything done in

(47:40):
the public sector. Right? Is it because of this? Is
it because when Chris was trying to explain to us
they couldn't buy the livia he said.

Speaker 5 (47:46):
This the Ministery of Advisory Group advised ministers there was
no secondhand theories in the configuration. And what I mean
by that is the size the passenger capacity that the
government traditionally provide.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
He could have just said it's not big enough. All
he just did, that's all, it's not big enough. But
he took sixteen seconds to say something that in the
end I don't know that we did you would you
have understood it on less I'd explained probably not. That's
that's the problem with the public sector anyway. Rachel Reeves,
the Chancellor of the UK, you know, the one we
were talking about on the show yesterday, for crying. She's
appeared again. She's explained it. She says she was upset.

(48:25):
It was a personal issue. Not going to go into
the details of that. It's nothing to do with the
Speaker giving her a ripping, nothing to do with the
Prime Minister not expressing confidence. It's just a personal issue.
Smart move, though, completely unsackable now once you've cried in public,
the boss can't sack your headlines.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
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your drive home it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one
New Zealand. Let's get connected news talks'd be if you're.

Speaker 22 (48:53):
Feeling down, make you have around slowly.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
We've got a bit of a problem with apartments in
our biggest city in Auckland, like there's a massive crunch.
You just aren't enough apartments being built. We'll deal with
that after six o'clock. Also, apparently I was going a
bit rough on Goalri's government, because the truth is she
was just starting early on the wealth tax, just a
little bit of redistribution, which is normal for the left.
Twenty four away from six sports huddle is going to

(49:24):
be thus shortly. First though done, is all twenty nine
thousand tickets to tomorrow's All Blacks match at fullsyth Bar
Stadium and dnedn't have been snatched up. This is the
only All Blacks tests in the South Island this year
and the city is pretty excited. Dunedin med Jewels Raditch
is with us. Hello Jewels.

Speaker 10 (49:39):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Is it pumping already?

Speaker 23 (49:42):
It is at a All Blacks party or pre game
party tonight and the place is buzzing, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Is this one that the All Blacks is throwing?

Speaker 23 (49:53):
No, no, no, it's just some friends to be having
a quiet night and just resting up ready for the
game tomorrow. You know, this is just at a business
in town that it's having a party.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Oh okay, you guys are into it, eh? Is it
choker block? Is it impossible to get a room? Is
it impossible to get a booking at a restaurant?

Speaker 23 (50:12):
Look, well I haven't tried, so I don't know. But no,
We've got quite a lot of restaurants and accommodation seems
to be I imagine it's all full, but you know,
we have means and mechanisms for people to find accommodations,
so I think I haven't heard any complaints. Put it
that way.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Now, this seems to me like this year is your
last hurrah, isn't it before you get some competition from
the people up in christ Church.

Speaker 23 (50:36):
Well, in terms of all Black Tests, it will be
no different than what it's been for the last ten
years of having the stadium, because of course they're all black.

Speaker 14 (50:46):
The Rugby Union will want to.

Speaker 23 (50:48):
Share all Black Tests around just as they do now.
So it's not as though all all the tests are
played at Eden Park, which would be the best financial
return for the rugby Union, that they don't do.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
That because they do.

Speaker 23 (51:00):
You think what players to come from all around the country.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Do you think that if if there's a match, you know,
at Dunedin and then followed by a match in christ
you still have the Cantabrians coming to the Dunedin match
as well?

Speaker 23 (51:12):
Oh yeah, well people follow the orb Blecks around the world.
I mean it's worth a what's one in Paris and
then the next one in London.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No trouble, Yeah, brilliant stuff. All right, well listen best
of like, do you want to have a punt at
who takes it out tomorrow?

Speaker 17 (51:25):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (51:25):
Look, I think the All Blacks will manage it.

Speaker 14 (51:28):
I think they'll manage.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
To get the job done by a marginal absolutely.

Speaker 23 (51:33):
Oh well, I'd like to save five or ten points,
but I think it's more like twenty to twenty five.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I like that. That is confidence Jewell's got on. You go, well,
that's Jill's and enjoy your party this evening in town
Jill's Raditch, Dunedin's Mayor twenty two away from six the.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
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Speaker 4 (52:04):
Of the players have got no caps at all, so
it's a development team with a few senior players involved.

Speaker 14 (52:10):
It's honestly, in my mind it's completely yes.

Speaker 17 (52:13):
I was certainly not reading into anything that it's a
week in French side. I think any French Test side
that plays against all this you have to give him
that most respect.

Speaker 11 (52:23):
It was really good weekends, but honestly it's it's a
new weekends here on a very different track. We need
to chase every session and try and extract everything we can.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Right on the Sports title US. This evening we have
Jim Kay's producer of the Breakdown at Sky TV, and
Andrew Gordy sports commentator. Lads, Hello, God, I hear that.
Hello Jim. Do you like the refreshed All Blacks?

Speaker 10 (52:44):
I do?

Speaker 20 (52:45):
I do?

Speaker 10 (52:45):
I do like this team. I love Billy Procter at center,
rica a Yuani back on the wing where he was
so good when he came into the All Blacks. And
I've got to say I'm quite excited about toopu Way
being at Blindside. I'm not normally a fair and heather
of locks moving to blind Side, but I think this
one could work. I think it could be, could be exciting,

(53:06):
and it could be one for a lot longer to come.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Did you know, Jim, because you know everything about rugby,
did you know that Fabian Holland is actually from Holland.

Speaker 10 (53:16):
I know it's tremendous than it is that.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, a man that came from Zealand to New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (53:22):
Literally I know, I know. And look, he's a big
lump of a ladletic played well in Super rugby again,
exciting to see him play. So yeah, there's there's a
lot that I like about this All Black side. There's
a lot to get excited about. And yeah I'm looking
forward tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah, totally. Now, Gordy, what do you think of these
claims that the French team is under is under strength
and just a development team.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
Yeah, I think it's legitimate, right, and it is. I
heard the comments from Justin Marshall that you played just
before we came on, and I backed Marcy's comments there.
It is disrespectful and it's it's not a great look.
And I think if we sent in understrength side a
sick and string developments team over to France, I would
expect that their rugby fans would say the same. But

(54:10):
purists over there, We're purists over here, and so I
think all that means really is I fully expect and
this is not coming from arrogance, it is this is
what I expect. I expect the All Blacks to win
the series, Sreenil, and I expect them to win it
pretty comfortably, even though too Paul Via is playing at blindside,
which I personally am uncomfortable about. My good mate Jim

(54:32):
Kaye who's on with us today? Jim twitter bio. I
don't know if you know this, but Jim's Twitter bio
used to be too short for Locke, too slow for
loose forward. Now what does that tell you? Jim was
a premium athlete. We're premium athletes. But you're either one
or the other. You're either one or the other. And
I personally still have PPC from Scott Barrett starting a
blind side against England in that World Cup semi final

(54:55):
all those years ago. I'm nervous about it, but I'll
back race his judgment and I bet to there's no
flight on two paull B. But I'm uncomfortable about the selection.

Speaker 10 (55:05):
The can I just comment on the state of the
French team, and look, it does appear to be a
team missing a whole heap of their top players. But
I still think we should be a little bit cautious here.
This is a French side that's beaten New Zealand in
the last four Test matches, and New Zealand are not
squeaky clean when it comes to sending away weekend teams

(55:26):
or two or as they did in two thousand and
five they played one fifteen against Ireland and a completely
different one a week later against Wales. In the seventies,
we sent two All Blacks teams away at the same time.
In two thousand and two, John Mitchell took away a
very weekend All Black side left a lot of players
here so they could rest and recover for the World

(55:48):
Cup the following year. So I don't agree with what
Frances have done, but I just think we need to
wait and see how this series plays out. And I
think sometimes we have a little bit of row tinted
glasses when we look at the way that the All
Blacks haven behaved over time.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
You're not saying this, are you, because you work for
Sky TV and you need us to believe that there's
a contest in order for us to know.

Speaker 10 (56:11):
I'm saying this because it's factually correct. Okay, it's factually correct.
Graham Murray got his debut as All Blacks captain because
he led them to Argentina. When there's another All Lacks
team going on somewhere else. We just need to be
we just need to be a little bit careful, you know,
Let's wait and see it. In three weeks time, we
might look back and Gordy's nostra damis and we say, yep,
three nil is what it was. And I hope that

(56:34):
it's three nil and I and I always hope that
that teams coming to New Zealand and bring their best teams.
And clearly France ever done that. Now, Jack doesn't necessarily
mean the All Blacks are going to run over the
top of them.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
If we cannot be an under strength and experienced French
team a B team at home, what does that say
about the Black team?

Speaker 10 (56:56):
Though it would be it would be, but you go
back to nineteen eighty six when a Baby Blacks team
missing all of the Cavaliers, played France and beat them.
So you know, this is what happens is sport. The
team that's ripped off gets up and wins. Again. That's
another example of New Zealand not fielding a top strength
team because then the Cavaliers. So we just we just

(57:19):
need to be a bit careful, you know. History suggests
that the All Blacks have done not always the right
thing by the standard of their team as well.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
What are you's saying at Gordia is that you need
to tune in tomorrow night, even if you're not sure,
even if you're absolutely sure, We'll take a break come
back shortly sixteen away from six.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
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Speaker 2 (57:40):
Of a Kind back on the Sportshuddle with Andrew Gordy
and Jim Kay's Gordia. Are you worried about the Warriors
with all those injuries?

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Yeah, I am a bit worried. I am a bit worried,
to be honest. And the reason bang, it's the spine.
And I'm a big believer and a team of successful
team has to have a strong spine. And I've obviously
lost Mitch fun Now, they've lost Luke Metcalf and they've
lost Charlestnikel clock Start, who of course will will come back.
But I'm worried about that. That is the middle of

(58:08):
the team and that really dictates how the rest of
the team plays. I think where the Warriors are perhaps
a little fortunate, is that their next three games this
month against are against Letho Life, the Tigers, the Knights
and the Titans. They might be able to scrape through
that period and then Charlestnickle clock Shard will come back.
Maybe that'll give an opportunity for I think it'll be
Tanner boys who comes into a place, look Sloop Metcalf

(58:31):
and that might just give them an opportunity to ease
through that period, get some stability back within the team,
and you know, hopefully they can finish the seasons.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
But I heard Jim, I heard Mike Costklings say something
really interesting on air either today or yesterday, where he asked,
why it is that we always want to knock the
Warriors first opportunity we get, we have a crack at them.
What's up with that?

Speaker 10 (58:51):
See? I completely disagree. Well, I think the Warriors get
some of the softest media coverage of any sports team
in New Zealand. I just don't see where he's coming
from there. I think, you know, if you open up
the Herald and read the Warriors, they'd almost have to, well,
I don't know, commit an atrocity before there's a there's
a negative story about it. I think they get a

(59:12):
very very soft run from the Auckland media, particularly when
you compare it to I don't know the Blues or
most Super Rugby teens or any other sports team really
they I think they get a soft run.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
They'll tell you here that I'll tell you here that
it's not the media, it's the fans who and the
wider fan base that start doing that. And I'll tell
you why they do it. It's PTSD. It's because of
what they've been used to for most of the club's existence,
is that they're expecting, they're waiting for the Warriors to
fall over. I think they're a better club than that now,
and they are a better squad. There's a bit of
culture there. I don't think they're the you know, the

(59:45):
sort of that they tended to fold, didn't they They would
tend to fold any sort of adversity they would fold.
I think that moved beyond that now.

Speaker 10 (59:53):
Maybe maybe Mike's been watching his wife's videos of him
watching the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Honestly, sometimes after a Warrior's game, I go to watch
that just for a hope. Don't you do that?

Speaker 10 (01:00:03):
I know it's crazy. That's what sports about. Sports about
being engaged and being passionate and being emotional, and if
it goes away, then sports disappears. You know, you've got
a care.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah, you do really have to. Now, Gordy, do you
think Liam Lawson's got his mojo back?

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
I don't know that. I quite go that far. But
I think what he needs to do this weekend is
not necessarily better what he did last time out, but
he's got to show consistency and constant little improvement. So
what's important for Liam Lawson is that this isn't just
a flash in the pan and he finishes down the
pack again.

Speaker 22 (01:00:40):
He's got it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:41):
He's got to try.

Speaker 6 (01:00:42):
To maintain that level consistency and at that that sort
of level where he's where he's managed to achieve. He
needs to maintain that otherwise he's going to be in trouble.

Speaker 10 (01:00:51):
Jim, look Andrew Gordy drives down and look to like
a Formula one driver. So I back whatever he said,
but for the for me, for me, Formula one is
a bit like the Olympics. We are excited about it
and we are not Gordy, but most of us have
so knowledge because Liam Lawson's involved. What I know about

(01:01:14):
Formula one you could write on a postage stamp and
have a little bit room list over. But I'm interested
in it now because Liam Lawson's in it and he's
a Kiwi. And it's the same with lots of sports.
It's the same with the Olympics. All of a sudden.
We know rowing, we know kayaking, we know shop put,
we know longed up. Oh they should have done this,
they should have done that. I hope he does well.
If he drives like Gordy does through Kingsland, he's going

(01:01:35):
to be fine. But that's about all I know about
formula one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Is this something you need to tell us, Gordy?

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
Look well, I can usually say is that the music's
up very loud. Is that what you mean? I usually
drive around with the radio. I'm pretty much at full board,
but I'd like to think I keep the speed under
control now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah, because I mean, ain't you driving a family can
like it's a It's as you say in this end,
but it's like a Nissan family Can.

Speaker 6 (01:01:59):
She's humbleness and cash guy. To be honest, we're not
breaking any speed records.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
All right, lads, thank you. I really appreciate your time.
Go well, the pair of you and enjoy the rugby
and the Warriors and all the stuff that's happening. And
the F one. Jim Case Andrew Gording. Jim's right though,
way we all love the F one Now, no bloody
idea what's going on most of the time. Just all
I see is cars going around really fasca go?

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
When?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
When? When? That's all I understand? Eight away from six it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Listen. Very sad to say this. This is news that's
just come through, is that the workers at the New
World store which has burned down in Central Auckland, which
I care about because, as I've told you, you know,
at Nauseum is my supermarket. It's very inconvenient for me
to have to go to the dairy now to buy
the milk on the way home. But you know, such
as life, first world problems anyway, much bigger problems is that, unfortunately,

(01:02:54):
according to the workers' union, a lot of the staff
are now going to be made redundant. And I'm so
so sad to hear that because the staff at that
store were wonderful. I suppose we can all say that
about our supermarket stores, you know, our personal supermarkets, that
we like the stuff. I really like the staff there.
But I guess also, I mean, what else could you
possibly do? Sounds like the company is at the very

(01:03:16):
least making an effort to try to find some work
for at least some of the staff, so they are
offering them roles at nearby stores or at the support center,
the distribution center and so on. They're also bringing forward there.
They're building a new world on Deer Voice Road in
Point Chev Is that the one on you? No, maybe
it's a further afield. No, it's in Point Chev building

(01:03:36):
it building it a supermarket and Point Chef. Anyway, they
were due to open that on the ninth of September.
They've now brought that forward to the nineteenth of August
to at least have a supermarket there. And unfortunately, really
bad news the supermarket at the bottom of Franklin Road,
this one by Victoria Park. This is going to be
out of commission for two years. That is how extensive
the damage is. So yeah, hopefully, hopefully those staff are
able to as many of them can find jobs as possible,

(01:03:59):
and hopefully they'll be able to find jobs even outside
of food stuffs. Quickly, can I just do a really
quick shout out. I've been meaning to do this for
a little while. I don't really want to get into
charity and stuff on the show, but I would like you,
if you are able to just give this a thought.
I'm not telling you how to spend your money, but
give it a thought. Variety has launched a winter repeal

(01:04:19):
and because there are people in this country who do
not have as much as the rest of us, and
you know, and the ones that I care about more
deeply than anybody of the kids because it's not their
fault and you know how their parents choose to spend
the money and stuff like that. Anyway, that launching a
winter appeal to try and buy some blankets and so
on and bet nice betting to keep the kids warmed
through the winter. So just go have a look if
you're into that, because that is something that I would recommend.

(01:04:42):
Four away from six now was you know I like
a cyclist story, so I and I like a court story.
So I had a happy intersection today when I was
reading about an exciting day in court in Nelson this week,
Quite an exciting day. A chap was appearing because he
was charged with failing to stop to ascertain injury. What

(01:05:02):
had happened was he was driving and his car connected
with a cyclist. Now why I say connected with the
cyclist is because he says he didn't hit the cyclist.
He said the cyclist was cycling along and wanted to turn,
and they stuck it stuck out their arm and it
just clipped, just clipped his car. And this because it
clipped the car, the cyclist fell over and sustained a
broken hand in a concussion and was lying bleeding on

(01:05:23):
the ground. And this chap the driver stopped briefly and
it was like, nah, be fine, drove off, just left
the cyclist lying there. Anyway, So he's charged with not
stopping to ascertain whether the bloke needs help or not.
He goes to court, not happy in court this week,
told the court the cyclist was reckless for having nicked
the end of my wing mirror. Said it's not like
I physically hit him. Said if he could ride a

(01:05:44):
bike properly, this wouldn't be a problem. Then asked the
court if they could also prosecute the cyclist just like him.
Then tossed a bundle of papers that he was holding,
and that stormed out of court. And this is not
even the end of it. He'd already sacked his lawyer
because he said he wanted to represent himself. That went well,
didn't it nex time? Keep the lawyer? Anyway, got one
hundred hours of community, community work and was disqualified from

(01:06:05):
driving for a year. So judge didn't buy it, did he.
Let's talk about apartments in Auckland next, and why we've
got such a shortage. News Talks ab.

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Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Evening. Coming up to the next hour. Apparently everyone is
going on holiday to Japan. We're going to find out why.
I Shortly we'll wrap the week that was in politics
and also go to the UK with Cavin Gray. Seven
past six. Now it looks like we've got an apartment
crunch coming to Auckland. New figures show we've only got
fifty four developments in the pipeline for the city. That's
a far cry from the peak four years ago of
one hundred and eighty three apartment projects. Tamba Carlton is

(01:06:56):
the director of Research at CBRE New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
II.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Tamba, Hi, how are you? I'm very well, thank you.
So this is just basically the downturn and construction taking hold,
isn't it.

Speaker 24 (01:07:07):
Yeah, it's just a manifestation of how difficult the housing
market has had things over the past few years, and
apartment developers and no exception, they've just had a really
tough time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Have we had a bunch of projects also abandoned though,
because I see we've dropped fifteen off the list that
we had.

Speaker 24 (01:07:22):
Yeah, that's right. So that decline in the size of
the pipeline, that's largely due to projects hitting completion and
then becoming part of stock rather than part of the pipeline.
So those projects that are hitting completion, they're not being
replaced by new launchers. And abandonments have always been a
feature of the market. This is a thing with apartment development.

(01:07:42):
It's really risky and usually about a fifth of projects
don't proceed to completion.

Speaker 8 (01:07:48):
Though.

Speaker 24 (01:07:48):
You know, apartment developers will take a punt and they'll
put a project on the market and it might not
get enough pre sales or it might not sell at
a level where they can proceed, so it just gets abandoned.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
So do we actually have demand for a partments in.

Speaker 24 (01:08:00):
Auckland, Yeah, I would say so. So our symposium showed
the proportion of apartments as a proportion of the total
housing stock for Auckland and then other global markets So
in Australia sixteen percent of housing as apartments. In the
UK and US it's in the low twenties, and in
Auckland it is less than eight. So it's not because

(01:08:21):
New Zealanders just don't want apartments, it's because water is
available in the market isn't suiting their needs within their
financial constraints. Developers, Yeah, well, they need enough space, they
need things that suit their lifestyle, such as storage and
car parking. For quite a few they needed in locations
where it's you're able to access service and ammenity and

(01:08:43):
be close to the things that you need to live
the life that you want to live. So what is
working in this really difficult market is apartments. That's the
downside of demographic So with those you know downsize the
owner occupies looking for a lock up and leave low
maintenance type property and probably going to sell the family

(01:09:04):
home to do so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Do you think that we will get more apartments coming
on stream with those CRL changes, the ones where they'll
have you know, fifteen story buildings and stuff near the
CRL train stations. Is that going to solve a bit
of a problem here.

Speaker 24 (01:09:18):
Well, the CRL is going to increase the frequency and
reliability of the public transport with the train. So that's
going to make property development in those locations that are
close to the stations more attractive because it will improve
connectivity for the buyers from a transport per sector. But
with that announcement that you can do a minimum of

(01:09:41):
fifteen stories or a ten to fifteen stories, it's just
a certain number of stations, isn't it. It's only five
or so on the Central West Line. There's many other
stations that are going to benefit from the CRL, so
really they should also be upsigned.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yeah, fair point. Hey, thank you, Tamba appreciated Tampa Carlton,
director of Research at a CB New Zealand. Heather also,
food Stuffs has had supply as suppliers expo for some
of the smaller suppliers into New World Victoria Park to
try to introduce them to other operators in the food
Stuff's group that they might not yet supply into. That's
actually I thought about it over the news. I thought, actually,

(01:10:16):
it feels to me like food Stuffs. I stand to
be corrected. I don't know a lot of what's going
on here, but it feels like food Stuffs North Island
is trying to do the right thing. They're trying to
get the suppliers a little bit more FaceTime with other
stores so they don't lose their business altogether now that
this one's burnt down. They're trying to get the staff
into other stores in the distribution center. And regardless, despite
all of that, the union's having a crack at them.

(01:10:38):
If you know, I'm happy to be proven wrong. But
if all that's happening here is simply that they have
to make people redundant because the store burnt down, and
they've tried their best to do their best here, then
the Union, I don't know, may want to be realistic
about the situation. Now we've spoken about choppers and the
movers on the movers on to ban the private choppers

(01:10:59):
and the residential areas in Auckland. Mike Lee, the counselor
who hates the choppers, has started the paperwork to try
to ban them. He sent an email he's written to
Phil Wilson. Phil Wilson as the Auckland Council Chief executive,
and he said to Phil phelp, I am going to
raise motion two notices of motion when we have the

(01:11:20):
Policy and Planning Committee meeting on July twenty four Notice
of Motion number one, which would be to ask Council
staff to start working to make private hallipads a prohibited
activity in residential areas under the Unitary Plan number two
a prohibited activity in residential areas on White Hecke and
Greater Barrier Islands under the Hodarky Gulf's Islands section of

(01:11:41):
the District Plan. So happy days for everybody who's already
got the halipad. I don't know if Mike's going to
take your halipad off you, but he's going to stop
the hallipads for everybody else. He's doing it just.

Speaker 9 (01:11:56):
For a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
When mud start little stones in your face washing everywhere,
I'll be fine. Thirteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
It's the head Duper See Allan Drive Full Show podcast
on my Heart Radio empowered by news dog Zebbi Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I've got an unexpected twist for you, news news hot
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did you? How did you get into it? Was it
like exciting news, exciting news. She's had exciting news that
Australians deliberate on a Saturday as well Saturday, and I
was like, what a Sunday Saturday Oh no, that's the
German accent. Okay. So anyway, the relevance of this to

(01:12:37):
you is that the mushroom chef jury for them, the
end of the week is not today. The end of
the week is tomorrow because tomorrow's Saturday and they still
have to deliberate through a Saturday. So we might yet
get a verdict over the weekend. We might get one
tomorrow anyway, stand by for that. That is thank you, Laura.
That is definitely breaking. I don't know why we didn't
do breaking news for that. Frankly, sixteen pass six. Now

(01:12:59):
let's wrap the political week. It was with Jason wolfs
our News Talks. He'd be political editor. Welcome back, Jason, Oh,
thank you very much. Do you think it's a smart
move for the government to roll out all of these
law and order announcements day after day rather than doing
them all in one lump.

Speaker 11 (01:13:11):
Yeah, I do. Actually, I know you've got to look
at the timing behind why they've done this as well.
It is probably the quietest recess week in all of
Parliament this year apart from Christmas. It's the winter school
holiday break. There's another recess week next week as well,
so it means that they've almost got open season on coverage, right,
You've still got the press gallery down here. We still

(01:13:31):
need to report on stories. So having a rolling mall
of these law and order announcements is I think it
was probably quite a smart political move, and the government
tends to do this. They have a theme for the week.
It was law and Order week this week. Other weeks
it's been sort of the economy week, or or the
week before. It's been various different things. So having it

(01:13:52):
on this week like this and having it play out
as it did, there is a risk that the public
does get a little bit bored of it. But all
of the announcements were quite retail in a way. They
were quite quantifiable and understandable, and it sure helped that
the Greens kicked off about it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Yeah, see, it did help, didn't it. And this was
really the first time that I realized how much trouble
Labor is on law and order because of the kind
of stuff that timoth Paul saying, right.

Speaker 11 (01:14:14):
Yeah, and I think that. I mean, honestly, I watched
the video and my first thought was the Greens should
not be talking about shoplifting. I think that's an area
that they should be staying away from. But I do
think that probably Tamotha she might have forgotten about it
and just kind of shot from the hep and decided
to make this video and later was like, oh geez,
maybe shouldn't have done that. But it's going to be
quite hard for Labor And we keep coming back to this,

(01:14:35):
the fact that at some point the Labor Party is
going to have to get off side with the Greens
and especially Tea Party. Marty by having to rule out
some of these things that they're saying. Closer to election
will get a better sense of it. But it did, Yes,
just not a great look.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Yeah, so privatizations read its head again. But it's not
going to be the Enter Island, is it.

Speaker 11 (01:14:54):
It doesn't look like it. I mean, Winston Peters was
never going to allow this control or the publicly controlled
fairies to be given up into the private sector. It's
something that David Seymour had mused about at one point,
and you'd think that if any government would be thinking
about it, it might be this one. But then you've
got Winston the handbreak Peters that would decide to Kaibosch

(01:15:15):
that idea anywhere along the way and to be honest,
I think that it didn't even really register as something
that the government was thinking of because Winston was there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
What about the privatization of land Corp? Though, that is
absolutely going to happen, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:15:29):
So?

Speaker 11 (01:15:29):
Nikola Willis has been talking about for some time that
there are some public assets that they're looking to potentially
see how well they're actually serving the public. When you
look at how much the CEO is making compared to
how much profit the thing is bringing in, you have
to start asking some questions. And I think this taxpayers
might be asking questions before that as to why do

(01:15:51):
we even own a company like landgre.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
I know that does so badly as well. Hey, so
do you have any thoughts on Rachel Reeves having a
bit of a boho in parliament in the UK?

Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
Listen? I was listening to your editorial earlier and you
were talking about how you know, if she cries in public,
you can't really sack her. I don't know. I think
that that might that might be a little bit too
conspiracy for me. It does sound like there's something.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Liberatly, No, it didn't. She didn't do it deliberately to
avoid sacking. That was a completely raw emotion.

Speaker 11 (01:16:18):
Just think so there was maybe a happy coincidence. Maybe
welly not happy going I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Tell you what, Jason, she one hundred percent was going
to Well, I cannot say this with certainty. It sounded
a hell of a lot like she was going to
get the sack. Potentially he was leaving the door open
for her to get the sack, right, that's what sparked
the tears. But then after the tears and after everybody
felt sorry for her, he couldn't possibly sack her. Now
he's back to her for the remainder of this term
and next term. So next time you're in trouble with

(01:16:43):
the boss, Jason, cry in public.

Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
I do that anyway, and it hasn't got to be anywhere,
has it not. You can see me in the back
of the press conferences that I'm always I've always got
a tear in my eye.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
I thought that was just because you were enjoying it. Jason,
Thanks very much, appreciate it. Jason Wall's News Talk ZB
political editor. Yeah, these are the things that happen in parliament. Actually,
by the way, I haven't discussed this with you. Peter Dunn,
whose opinion I rate has climbed into Tanya Unkovich for
quitting parliament last week. He's written a column about it.
He said, let me just quote your little bit, he said,

(01:17:15):
being a member. She's the one from New Zealand. I
know you don't know who she is. She's the one
from New Zealand first who quit. I know you didn't
ever know that that happened. It had happened. He says,
being a member of Parliament is not just another job.
Members of Parliament are elected for a three year term
which they are reasonably expected to complete before they decide
they want to do something else. Parliament is the highest
institution in the country and should command its own respect.

(01:17:36):
Serving as a member of Parliament as both an honor
and a privilege. It should not be treated as just
another entry on a CV. Good from you, Peter. He
then blames MMP for MP's treating Parliament like some sort
of a little like you could just dip in and
out for a few months and see how it goes.
Says perhaps, however, a perhaps unintended consequence of the quick
exit facility for list MPs has been a cheapening of

(01:17:56):
the dignity of Parliament as an institution. For some list.
It has become a case of too easy to join,
even easier to leave, which detracts from the principle that
MPs should be elected by the people, not appointed by
the parties. That in turn reduces the level of respect
for Parliament. And basically what he says is everybody should
have to fight for their seat right. It shouldn't just
be that you know, you know somebody who knows Winston,

(01:18:17):
so you get on the list or however I don't know.
I'd hate for Winston to now come at me for
saying that, so I immediately withdraw and apologize. But it should
be harder to get into Parliament than just being on
the list, you know what I mean. You should fight
for it. Therefore you should appreciate the effort that's gone
into it, and therefore you will stick around. Unlike Tanya
who just was like, Nah, don't actually like it, bye,

(01:18:39):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Here. The Tanya was the only MP that came and
met with the vaccine, not the media. Actually, former MP,
former MP six twenty five. Hey, if you've been like
this is a bit weird and a bit fringe, but
have you been following Japan's Bubba Vunga, because something weird
has happened. She predicted that there would be a natural
disaster tomorrow, as in five July. She predicted five July

(01:19:19):
and Japan it happened yesterday. It was a five point
five earthquake magnitude earthquake. It was I mean five point
five in Japan is not a big deal at all.
That happens all the time. You know, as somebody said,
predicting predicting an earthquake in Japan is like predicting that
you're going to put a pair of pants on today.
You know, like this just happens. But it's fascinating because
this particular woman predicted for Kashima. She writes, what do

(01:19:40):
you call them manga? Do you call them unga munga?
This is and out needed that from ants manga. These
are Japanese graphic comic things, and she predicted in them
that for Kashima would happen. And then it did happen,
and she predicted it a whole bunch of other stuff.
So people freaked out when she predicted that the fifth
of July would be when this massive event would happen.
It's a whole bunch of tourists basically decided not to

(01:20:01):
go to Japan. There's a massive drop off on the
tourist numbers because of it. She got it wrong by
day so you can go now. But anyway, lots of
people are going to Japan, and we're going to check
in with Wendy Wood Tours in about twelve fifteen minutes time.
Just find out what on earth's going on. Why everybody
loves Japan at the moment. Six twenty six. Now I've
got a little bit of entertainment news for you, k
This is to help you through the school holidays, because
we're halfway through, so there's light at the end of

(01:20:22):
the tunnel. But if you need to keep the kids
quiet for a couple of hours, we've got some tips
for you. Take them to the good old movie theater,
of course. And this week you've got the new animated
Smurfs movie.

Speaker 14 (01:20:31):
Hello, everyone, I have big news.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I've foul Smurf Village.

Speaker 14 (01:20:37):
I'm one step closer.

Speaker 18 (01:20:38):
To totally more dominance, we'll blame.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Some people are surprised the Smurfs have lasted as long
as a franchise, but it's because they're doing cool things
like getting Rihanna and to be the new Smurf fet
and she's got a song to go along with it
and stuff like that. If you want to see something
a bit more like raw dinosaurs, actually this is a
fantastic idea. I might take three year old to it.
He loves dinosaurs. The new Jurassic Will movie is also out.

Speaker 20 (01:21:01):
Because Ireland was the research facility, but the original to
aspic poor.

Speaker 11 (01:21:07):
We need DNA from the three biggest dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Do we have to give a sound call from an egg?
Actually maybe it's too scary. Anyway, you haven't got Chris
Pratt and brew Bryce Dallas Howard anymore. You've got Scarlett
Johansson and she's in the lead picture, in the leads
the picture, and she's also got Jonathan Bailey by her side.
Now at this point you're going, who's Jonathan Bailey. Jonathan
Bailey is Lord Anthony Bridgeton in Bridgeton's He's the hot

(01:21:31):
eldest brother. Your kids can enjoy the dinos and the
candy and then mum and dad can have a bit
of eye candy, if you know what I'm saying. It's
a lot of other great track pics as well. You've
got the Formula one movie with Brad Pitt. You've got
the new Pixar set of film set in space. You've
got the live action Liloh and Stitch that's still hanging
on if you haven't seen it yet. We've covered the
struggling cinema business a few times on the show. So
go out and support your local picture house with the

(01:21:52):
kids at the school holidays if you'd need a piece
of quiet. You could even sleep if you have to.
By the way, in the theater obviously, did you realize
Jonathan Bailey from Bridgeton can sing, he can dance, he
can act, and he can play the claronet so well
that he actually played a solo on the clarinet for
the soundtrack for Jurassic I mean, how proud are his parents?

Speaker 7 (01:22:12):
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Speaker 8 (01:22:34):
Hi, nice to meet your too, Ny.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Maybe, yes, I have been following the prediction. Oh it's
not just me, thank god. Otherwise I was worried I
was going to start looking at the looney hither the
skytower lighting is something else tonight? What's the reason? Please
tell me? It's not just for American independence? All that
makes me think that they've changed the colors but to
something like red, white and blue. But if it's just orange,
which it has been last night and I feel like

(01:22:58):
for a few nights now, if it's orange, then that's
about domestic violence, because they're supporting the charity Shine and
hoping to draw attention to it twenty four away from seven. Now,
if you feel like everyone around you was booking a
holiday to Japan, it is true they are. Tourist numbers
in Japan have jumped forty seven percent year on year,
and the country is aiming to almost double the number
of tourists to sixty million a year by twenty thirty.

(01:23:21):
Our Paul Diamond is the managing director of Wendy Woo
Tourism with US. Now have Paul, Hey, Heather, are you
seeing it's lovely to have you. Are you seeing this increase?

Speaker 25 (01:23:30):
Yeah, we're actually seeing greater growth than that from New Zealand.
We were up eighty six percent on last year's visitors
and that's on one hundred percent growth on pre COVID
levels as well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Wow, what's going on?

Speaker 25 (01:23:41):
Well, I think people have just discovered it and there's
really Once you come home from Japan, you tell your
friends and your friends just want to go as well.
It's a stunning destination and it's just a stone throw away.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
From us, is it.

Speaker 25 (01:23:57):
You've been, Yeah, I've I've actually been there twice this
year and I'm back there in November as well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Yeah, what is it? I'll tell you what I enjoyed
about it was I enjoyed that you got contrast, right,
So you get the city stuff and it's really cool,
and then you get and we're accustomed to the food
because everybody loves a bit of sushi and stuff like that,
and then you get the snow stuff if you're into
that stuff. But also they it just feels a little
bit more developed than other Asian countries.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:24:23):
Absolutely, it's very futuristic in some parts. But what I
love is that, as you'd know, they keep their tradition
as well. You're not going there to site see the tradition,
they still embody it. They'll still go to the temple
in the morning and offer the gods some money to
get good luck for the day and stuff. So you're
walking around temples that have been used for the last
four hundred days as well, and there's just really unique

(01:24:45):
things to go and see. I mean you can't see
snow monkeys anywhere else in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Yeah, and they also love a drink like we do.

Speaker 25 (01:24:52):
They do in fact, it brings them closer to the gods.
Sake brings you closer to the gods. So it's it's
every temple. So yeah, great, know that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I didn't know that. Now. The trouble, of course, is
when something like this takes off, you can almost have
too much of a good thing, right, So is it
possible to get go there and go whoa, there's just
way too many tourists here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:25:12):
Look, I think they are struggling with over tourism in
some parts. But what we always say is, you know,
jump on an organized group or a cruise or somewhere
that's actually pre booked you to get around, and then
you're not going to turn up to places where suddenly
twenty thousand people turn up to get a view of

(01:25:32):
Mount Footi. You've actually got people that know where to
go and take you without being stuck in the crowds
all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Yeah, you get the local help with it. What about
the medical insurance idea? You see? I see that they're
pitching that everybody who comes has to have medical insurance.
Good idea.

Speaker 25 (01:25:50):
Yeah, Look, I think most New Zealanders travel with travel insurance,
which kind of covers that because you've got your medical
insurance tied up in there. It does make sense they
have a great health network over them. But as we
know here, it can be a real burden onto the
public system. If you suddenly get sixty million people coming
as tourists, there's going to be a proportion of those
that get sick. So there needs to be some support

(01:26:12):
there for it to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Do you think that they are struggling with just given
that they've done a bunch of stuff lately, Right, so
they had now a fee at Mount Fuji. If you
want to climb a little bit parts of Kyoto or
off limits to travelers, you've got the medical insurance thing.
Are they starting to themselves kind of resist a little bit?

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Look?

Speaker 25 (01:26:30):
I don't think. I think what they're trying to do
is spread it out because the problem is that everyone
said about cherry blottom, so you get these huge groups
of people coming for that two week period where the
cherry blossom is, whereas Japan's break all year round. So
what the tourist Board's trying to do is get people
to go to the autumn lee's periods, which is absolutely stunning,

(01:26:52):
and that runs for three months rather than two weeks.
So there's a lot of things they're doing just to
try and spread people out. I mean, it's a nation
of one hundred and thirty five million people living in
the same area as New Zealand. They know how to
crowd manage. It's just they're just trying to manage it better.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
Okay, So I'm asking for ants who's got a trip booked.
If he has to go and see one thing, what
should he see?

Speaker 25 (01:27:16):
Oh, if he had to see one thing, I think
you've basically got to get there by bullet train because
the bullet trains are amazing, and I would probably say
one thing, are head up to mat Tomoto Castle. Love
mat Tomoto Castle, the Black Castle, the Crow's Castle, so
great there any dress upposite summer I sold you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Oh that sounds up the Allie answers loving this. Paul,
thank you, I appreciate it. It's Paul Diamond. Managing director
Wendy will tours Ants was writing that down. Don't you
love it when you get some tips and the person
is into it and loving and writing it down. I
appreciate this is this is the diligence of the people
that I work with. Nineteen away from seven Heather do
for see Ellen? Do you remember I told you not

(01:27:59):
a long time ago. Oh gosh, I want to say
a week or two about those sunscreens that we have
on the ships. It's Australian sunscreens, but we sell some
of them here and they're not meeting the SBF claims
like there way off with some of their SBF claims.
And at the time when I told you, I was
perplexed as to how it is that we continuously do this. Right,
this happens every year. Somebody goes and tests the sunscreens.

(01:28:20):
Got nah, not thirty, only four, and yet it continues
to happen. Well, there may be an explanation for this.
The testing might be wonky. So there were sixteen sunscreens
that weren't what they said that they were eight of them,
which is half of them. Obviously eight of them had
originally been tested by the same lab called Princeton Consumer Research,
and Princeton Consumer Research was saying that the significant that

(01:28:42):
the SPF was significantly higher than it actually was according
to alternative testing, and there have been concerns about PCR.
Princeton Consumer Research is testing and methodology, are testing, methodology
and calculation. So it seems that that is fundamentally the problem.
It's not that they're trying, at least as far as
we know, it's not that they're trying to sell you
sunscreen that's a lower SPF. It's that they genuinely think

(01:29:04):
that it is higher. It's just that the testing is
balls by the looks of things. Heather breaking news from
the Taxpayers Union. Local government New Zealand is planning nationwide
or campaign against rates capping. That's from John John, Thank you,
I did see this comments. This has just come in
from the Taxpayers Union. They've got some information that you
know that the Okay, I'll start at the very beginning.

(01:29:26):
There is an idea that's floating around at the moment
that what we need to do is we need to
cap the rates increases and say to local government you
can only increase it by this much. And it seems
to have have found a bit of a fan in
Simon Watts, who is the minister responsible for this, and
he's indicated that he's doing some work on it, so
could very well happen. Taxpayers Union has uncovered what they

(01:29:46):
are calling a previously secret plan from Local Government New
Zealand to mount a full scale public campaign against rates capping,
and they've attached the information. Now they have hyped it
up somewhat, as the Taxpayers Union is what to do
from they get excited about their politics, so they have
hyped it up a little bit. I mean basically what
it is is they've got together at Local Government New
Zealand and they've decided, how are we going to deal
with this. Let's deal with it through a public campaign.

(01:30:09):
Nothing the farious about this. This is just how politics works,
so you know, it's totally fine. However, what I thought
was quite interesting in this is that they are really
worried at Local Government New Zealand. They say, if we
don't strengthen our advocacy, the government is likely to implement
rates capping. The government is likely to introduce legislation next year. However,

(01:30:29):
it is still politically possible to prevent rates capping local government.
New Zealand successfully opposed a similar proposal in two thousand
and nine, and more recently South Australia has held it
for rates cap through lobbying and strong, strong public campaign.
Being louder publicly would be essential to argue that council
is a better place than central government to make rates decisions.
We must boost public trust and confidence in local government.

(01:30:51):
There's your problem. I think public trust and confidence in
local government is at such a low eb at the
moment with you know nonsense that's going on behind closed doors.
The Mayor of Auckland just delegating all his decision making
on certain subjects to Ken, the mechanic from West Auckland,
and completely unaware what Ken's up to. And Ken appears
to be completely unaware what Ken's up to as well.
You've got Tory Farno and Wellington who should still be

(01:31:14):
a mayor for another few months, but she's she's she's
completely distracted and fighting online campaigns against David Seymour. You've
got all of the co governance. Nonsense that that has
been gone on, like all this stuff like that just
local government. New Zealand has lost our confidence, hasn't it.
So I feel like if it was if it was
central government versus local government on this, they ain't got
a snowballs chance. And hell, what do you think quarter

(01:31:36):
two croaching.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
The numbers and getting the results? It's Heather Dutilessy Allen
with the business hour and maths, insurance and investments, Grow
your wealth, protect your future.

Speaker 14 (01:31:47):
These talks end me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Heather Tael ants to be careful about the sashimi on Matsumoto.
It's famous for being horse meat, says Deann.

Speaker 16 (01:31:56):
I'm quite happy to say, as long as it's ethically
sourced and everything, I would be quite happy to try horse.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
What about whale?

Speaker 16 (01:32:03):
Oh you know, may okay? Then whales too far? Sorry,
I'm not doing that. Why because there aren't enough of them.
We can't kill them. So for morals, yeah, for morals, yeah, yeah, yeah.
If theoretically there were like tons of whales in the
ocean and we could find them, I'd be quite happy.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Back in the days. But back in the nineteen yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:32:19):
Yeah, before every they ruined it for us by.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
Getting rid of them.

Speaker 14 (01:32:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:32:22):
Absolutely, I've been round.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
Down candles and perfumes and stuff.

Speaker 16 (01:32:26):
And the corsets. I mean, you're not even wearing them anymore.
A waste of time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
On't look at what we did to the world just
for some some you know, slim waists and smelling.

Speaker 14 (01:32:33):
Good thing.

Speaker 16 (01:32:34):
We'd never do anything like that in them is No,
it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
We're really ethical now, thank you. As twelve. Don't ask
me that question because I am divided on it. Actually,
I'm still puzzling that when I have been for years
twelve away from seven. Gavn Gray UK corresponds with us. Now, Alogavin,
so Rachel's safe now, we think so.

Speaker 20 (01:32:52):
Rachel Reeves the Chancellor, the money Minister, the economy minister
here in the UK seeing on television in tears of
tears pouring down her cheeks in Parliament while Sekir Starmer
stood in front of her at the dispatch box and
nobody comforting her. Very very odd scenes. And not just
was it odd, but also the market spooked. They suddenly thought, hmm,

(01:33:16):
we think she's going to get sacked. That'll mean whoever
replaces her probably opens the floodgates to more unfunded spending
and that could be a problem. Now Rachel Reeves has
since been back in public life. There were no tears.
She was asked about it. Everybody's been asking about it.
Claims that it could have been a row with the boss,
the Prime minister, could have been a row with the

(01:33:36):
deputy prime minister, could have been a row with all
sorts of people. We're told it was a personal matter
and that was all that was to be said. Very
very odd.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
What do you make of the BBC telling a whole
bunch of stuff that they need to step back from
their jobs because the Bob Villain thing.

Speaker 20 (01:33:51):
Yeah, it's an interesting one. So at glaston Reset, a
punk rap group called Bob Villain suddenly began leading chants
of death, death to the IDF, the Israeli Defense Force
of course, so they were being broadcast live, but also
they were available for four hours on the Internet the

(01:34:12):
BBC's streaming service, until that was taken down. Now because
it was live. Of course, these things are always very
very difficult. But the BBC roundly condemned for not muting
the broadcast or taking them off immediately, and lots of
people have condemned them for that and now, indeed, a number,

(01:34:34):
as you said, number of senior staff have been told
quote to step back from their day to day duties
on music and live events. That does not mean they've
been sacked. It simply means, I suppose they've received a
rap on the knuckles. While this investigation is underway, the
BBC has admitted it was wrong not to mute the
groups that were doing this or the group that was
doing this, But nevertheless, the corporation's chair Samshah said that

(01:34:59):
this was unquestionably an error of judgment not to pull
the live feed. At the time, the chief Rabbi in
the UK said it was absolutely terrible and really weighing
in with other politicians to the BBC. So I suppose
they're hoping this might be an end of a matter
at the BBC. I'm not so sure, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Why should they have pulled the plug? Is what Bob
Villain said? Unlawful?

Speaker 20 (01:35:25):
Well, many people are saying it's an incitement to hatred,
that it wasn't the only comment made about Israeli or
indeed about Jewish people, and so consequently, I guess because
Bob Villain are black, if something similar had been said
about black people, maybe that would have been a different
thing or a different religious sect if you'd said that.

(01:35:47):
And I just think, you know, this death death to
the Iva was something that I'll think a lot of
people thought had overstepped the mark. And the police are
actually investigating it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Fascinating. Hey, Gvin, really appreciate you talking us through it.
We'll talk to you shortly again. It's Gavin Gray, UK correspondent.
Mm okay, update on the sky tower. No, the colors,
what are the colors? It mustn't be orange colors. Are
something else. It's to celebrate Fudda Nui Harrikor arriving at
the Civic. It's a stunning projection that you won't want

(01:36:18):
to miss. This crocheted fuddy Nui is filled with joy
and connection and stands in Tarmakimikota and Auckland for the
first time under the Matsaki stars. Oh I've heard about this?
Oh yeah, No, they're they're knitting a they're knitting a
meeting house some war Sevic squens. So it's in order
to celebrate that. Eight away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Right just to make you feel better about the world
that we live in. It is not just us in
New Zealand who find well. When I say us in
New Zealand, what I mean is Tory Faro and the
Wellington City Council who find ways to spend extraordinary amounts
of money on very basic things. It also happens in
the UK. It turns out that the House of Lords
and the UK has got a new front door. The

(01:37:03):
front door has been installed and it's cost nearly ten
million dollars. Was that million? Ten million pounds? Apologies? What's
that twenty million dollars? Roughly right? I'm just doing a
very basic calculation. How in God's name is a door
that expensive? And yet they have managed to do this.
I don't even know how to explain this to you.

(01:37:23):
But the door was supposed to only cost six point
one million pounds, so only about twelve million dollars and
then it blew out. How you say hello and yes
to adore? That's twelve million dollars in the first place.
I don't know. And if you're saying yes to a
doll that expensive, you deserve that it blew out. But
what's even better about it is the door doesn't work,
and so as a result, there is a security officer

(01:37:44):
who has to permanently be stationed at the door to
press a button to open it, and that is costing
five thousand dollars every week. So the door's expensive, and
then the bloke who stands there pressing the button is
also expensive. So yeah, I mean, you know, it's world round,
isn't it. It's not just it's not just Tory, it's
that as well. Ants.

Speaker 16 (01:38:02):
I was going to say here, they're like, if it's
twenty million dollars for the door, I should not need
to touch that thing to get through it. It should
it should know that I'm coming and open.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
And say do you welcome, and.

Speaker 16 (01:38:12):
And then play my professional wrestling style entrance music, your.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Entrance music, and talk to you in the tone, the
volume and the language that you want.

Speaker 16 (01:38:20):
Absolutely yeah, minimum.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Ants needs to go to the fish market early.

Speaker 16 (01:38:24):
Oh okay, good to know. Thank you. That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Lord. You have gone and listen to Bone Dougs, haven't you.

Speaker 16 (01:38:28):
Well Yeah, I was going to say, interesting. The Crossroads,
the song from nineteen ninety six, is their only song
to get to number one on the New Zealand chart. Thankers,
shrugish Bone got close. It got to number two as well.
And yeah, there's only one swear word in it and
it's at the very start, so we're already past that.
So that's good. What's the song called again, the CROSSROADSKA?
And yeah, obviously because as we mentioned yesterday, they are
getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame alongside

(01:38:50):
all of the other people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Did you enjoy doing your research?

Speaker 16 (01:38:55):
They're not for me, Heather. Look, they're amazing. They the
flow is insane, like the skill on displayers excellent. I'm
never gonna listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
The sin You're more of a Miley Cyrus guy.

Speaker 16 (01:39:04):
Yeah, actually probably yes, yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Enjoy your weekend. Go the All Blacks, go the Warriors,
Go Liam Lawson. See you next week.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
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