Full Show Podcast: 04 September 2025

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
The only drive show you can try the truck to
ask the questions, get the answers, find a fag sack.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
And give the analysis. Heather Do for cy Ellen.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Drive with One New Zealand and the Power of Satellite
Mobile News Dogs d be.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Afternoon. Coming up on the show, Erica Stanford on her
immigration changes, Scotty Hanson, the All Blacks assistant coach, on
whether We're gonna win this weekend, and Chris Bishop on
his plans to densify Auckland.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Heather Do for cy Ellen.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
So I'm going to suggest that Erica Stanford is on
the right track with wanting to make it easier to
deport criminals, but maybe she doesn't go far enough. So
at the moment, the rules are that we cannot deport
criminals if they've been here on a residence visa, so
they've been residents for more than ten years. Example of
this is the Mumma Hooch brothers. These guys are not Kiwi's,
you know the ones I'm talking about done in christ Church.

(00:50):
They're not Kiwis, they're Assi's. They don't have citizenship here,
they don't have Kiwi passports. But even though they are
two of the country's worst sexual offenders. We cannot put
them back to Australia because they've been here in New
Zealand as residents for longer than ten years. Now, Erica
Stanford is proposing to change the rules so that that
gets moved out to twenty years for anyone who's committed

(01:11):
a serious crime like murder, rape or manslaughter. Now, I
would say scrap the time limit all together. It doesn't
matter how long you've been here twenty years, twenty five years,
thirty years, fifty years. If you decide that you want
to rape or kill someone, you go home. You lose
the privilege of being here. Maybe we need to look
outside of rape and murder and manslaughter as well. Perhaps

(01:32):
we have lower time limits for other crimes, but time
limits all but further than ten years, if you know
what I mean, we take a line on those crimes,
we'll push it out a little bit further. Because the
key here is that it is a privilege. It's a
privilege to be in New Zealand and not a right.
And I suppose what I'm suggesting is that we take
a leaf out of Australia's book and get rid of
other countries criminals much as I don't always love what

(01:55):
Australia is doing. What I love a lot less is
looking after other countries criminals, So I reckon no time
limit on those big crimes together.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Duples Ellen.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Nineteen ninety two is the text number. Okay, get ready
to make room in your house for meat balls and
billy bookcases. Ikea has revealed it's going to open its
doors in time for Christmas on Thursday, the fourth of December.
Johannah Sir Deeluv is IKEA's market manager. Hi Johannah, Hello,
Hi mate, just before Christmas. It's going to be mental,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
It's going to be really cool. I can't wait. It's
super exciting. Have been super excited to announce the Day's
three months to go and then fourth of December we're
opening our doors at s Agia Sylvia Park as well
as the online shop for all kivs around the country.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean, look, it feels I want to come as
soon as possible, but the thought of having to battle
that traffic and the crowd fills me with trepidation. So
when do you reckon it's the best time to come?

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Kind of after Christmas? When things have calmed down for
those of us who want to avoid the crowd.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh, I'm sure you will find a slot already earlier.
So hopefully you'll find a good moment during the days,
for example, So we will we will be sure that
we don't open on the opening day exactly on a
morning traffic, but a little bit after that. But of

(03:20):
course if you want to wait for a couple more days,
then you can start shopping via online. We can either
deliver it to your home, or you can pick it
up from a couple pickup points that mainfreight is providing
around the country, or you can also click and collect
it from the garage of the store very convenient directly

(03:42):
to your car.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Brilliant, Now have you got Is this going to be
a full like? Is everything going to be on offer
the full range?

Speaker 6 (03:49):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
So in IKEA we have a mandatory range reaching a
bit over seven thousand, and we are bringing all that
in to New Zealand directly to take with you home
today from I Sylvia Park or conveniently as you wish
to get them delivered to your house.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
And have you got everything that you need to get going?
Because I think the other day you had about oh,
I don't even think it was twenty percent of the
staff that you need.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
No, we're actually today already over two hundred cowork pers
commenced and the rest three hundred and twenty plus will
be soon joining us. Every week, it's going to be
very busy, so approximately thirty to eighty people joining and
onboarding themselves to what will be ahead of them.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
What's your tip? What is the item we have to
all have?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Oh, that's a good question. There's plenty, of course, it's
plenty of plenty of course. But I personally I love
our packs wardrobe. It's so convenient, so stylish and can
be modified according to your own needs. But of course
there's multiply different items, like our textiles is super durable

(04:59):
and beautify. So yeah, you just need to come and
see and you will notice it yourself. What will be
your favorite player?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
I google the Pax wardrobe. That's a fantastic tip. Actually
great for Yeah, great, I can just see that fitting
in the house already. I'll have to come. Okay, now,
you guys had a bit of I mean, you'll be
aware you hit the headlines a wee bit with your
consenting and stuff. Would you get frustrated by that? Process.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
We have been super happily helped with Auckland Council and
all the neighbors and our collaborative partners. We're super excited
that we now are on track on our opening and
can open the doors by end of December. This was
our aim that we can open before Christmas and we

(05:46):
are way on the way.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
So that's of course very good news, fantastic.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
I don't know if you caught this. We discussed this
on the show yesterday, but there is a little bit
of a controversy coming out of Sweden where the Swedish
authorities have put together anon of the one hundred things
that everyone has to know about Sweden. And you'll be
aware Ike has made that list.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I haven't heard about that, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, Ika made the list, Peppy long Stocking made the list.
No about Peace Prize made the list, but they left
Abba off the list of the one hundred greatest Swedish things?
Is that as much I think that's a scandal. Do
you think that's a scandal?

Speaker 4 (06:21):
That's brilliant if we if we even made it on
the list, So that's of course, it just tells how
excited people are about Ikea around the world.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Joanna, thank you very much, Joanna said de lerf is Ikes,
but definitely not wasn't going to take the bait. A
was not going to take the bait and get involved
in a controversy around Abba anyway. Whatever I suppose, it's
fair enough. People have got strong feelings on that one.
Judith Collins, by the way, is just completed a top
secret visit to Ukraine's capital, Keev just popped up there.
I think it's one of those jobbies where, you know,

(06:55):
we do this with the ministers if they're going somewhere
a little bit dodgy, like maybe Iraq during the war,
Ukraine during the war, anywhere where they might become a target,
they fly them in under you know, under basically a
top secret fly them in, fly them out, and it's
only after they've left that you actually find out. So
I think she's probably departed already. She's gone there obviously
to meet with the government there. Unfortunately, mister trick, because

(07:17):
I immediately first thing I said when I heard this
was like show me the photos, because I thought, here
we're gonna go, We're gonna get crusher in her combats.
Do you know what I mean, she's gonna look she's
gonna look mean as they're gonna give her that jacket again,
that says crush of Collins. And she's just gonna look
like a you know, like like a Domino Trix or
something like that in an army theme. But unfortunately she
didn't get the combat fatigues out. She just went in

(07:38):
her standard Wellington wear, just a dress, blue dress, black jacket,
black sensible shoes, dark glasses. I mean it was cut
a fine figure. But yeah, mister trick, go on, then
let me do it. She wasn't gonna take the date,
but I was.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Quarter past.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
It's the Heather Duplessy and Drive Full Show podcast on
iHeart Radio powered by News Talk zb.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh hither the irony of a Maori Party MP making
racist statement. We are going to get to that because
I have a lot of questions about that. Eighteen past
four Darcy water Grave Sports Talk coasters with me. Hello, Dues,
good evening, go through the squad. Let's assess this before
we do that.

Speaker 8 (08:22):
Can I just tell you what you're going to do
with getting to the TV this weekend?

Speaker 9 (08:26):
Please?

Speaker 8 (08:26):
R eighteen of course beat responsibly. I just say, you know,
last week my idea of multiing up a whole lot
of favorites in the NPC and then putting my one
outsider on, which is Auckland, to finally break their NPC.
Duck blew off my face and I lost everything, which
was it was only like ten bucks, so only beat
we can afford to lose, and that's all I can
afford to lose, and just to add salt as well.

(08:49):
At the end of it, South and went up and
upset White at the then Philly Shields. I'm like, okay,
so let's just keep it simple this time. Yep, dollar
fifty five the All Blacks?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
What on the saffas?

Speaker 8 (09:01):
I think it's two thirty, I think off the top
of my head, but I'm not really interested in them.
I also like the idea of malting up like heart
favorites like ones you want to win. But then I
thought heart and the head, My heart's out of control.
I'd like to see Canterbury pick up the shield the
All Blacks win. I'd like to see Routcliffe, Routliffe and

(09:22):
Dorosky pick up the doubles in the US Open. I
want to see Liam Lawson finished top ten. I'm thinking,
did you learn nothing last week. You just keep it
nice and simple. Dollar fifty five. The all Blacks get
it done nice and easy. There you go, rat Bet
responsibly of course.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
So Quartez is injured after all, very how badly?

Speaker 8 (09:42):
Well's but you can train? But can you take a
fend to the sternum from a bit of South African
beefcake that's like a one hundred and twenty kgs No,
you can't. It'd break your ribs. And you know how
painful of broken ribbers? What about a broken joined them altogether?

(10:03):
So he's not there, Finnly, Christy will get the roll.
It will be fine. He's in there, Kyle pressing off
the bench, geet, what a way to debut. But the
team itself that has come out it is reasonably sensible.
You reckon, and I'm happy about this. They've made some tweaks,
some adjustments, some changes, but they've not made wholesale changes

(10:24):
right across the board. Yeah, Christie's on the inside. He
knows eden Parks. It is a positive there about understanding
what the box kick does in the wind conditions of
eden Park will wind shadows. That's important. They've stuck with
Barrett and Proctor in the twelve thirteen, which I admire
the change out the back in Monte Nudawah has come

(10:44):
in for his fourth test. I believe it is for
Sevu Reese, so Sevu's demeanstive frame probably works against him.
There Will Jordan's still at fullback Reka u An He's
still on a wing although at the media conference today
but were asked about Rico and Scott Robinson didn't say

(11:05):
a lot. But he's got an opportunity, hasn't he?

Speaker 10 (11:07):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (11:08):
It was well, maybe that's not the exact words, but
that was generally he knows the ground is his home ground.
I get the feeling he's going mate make more yards,
score tries or you might be. I can't put words
in his mouth because I'm not Razor, but that's.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
The general sent Holland. Has he not impressed?

Speaker 8 (11:26):
No, But I think that Fabian Holland coming in off
the bench because he's still there towards the end, maybe
tiring players, or maybe they want him off the bench.
Of the bomb squad column we know or the South
African team is yet that comes out at six o'clock
this afternoon. But that's a twist in the pack because
you've got to coming at number five Jersey, he can

(11:47):
swap back to number six if the proverbial hits the fan.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (11:52):
That I think probably the big call out of all
of this. I mean, Addie save one hundred tests open side,
while a Satiki's coming at number eight is Simon Parker
one test into his career, and Simon Parker's playing blindside
is at the side of that which is poushing to
provide into lot, but of course he can slot and

(12:13):
Carreffe is in there as well to cover off. But
I think that's probably the big one out of all
of this. And he's a massive lumpover broke, but Robertson
knows what he wants and he's sticking hard and fast
to it, so it works well.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I appreciate that. That's Darcy Waldegrave Sports Talk post and
we will have Scotty Hanson All Blacks Assistant coach with
us just after quarter past five for twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Sport with tab power plays better unlocked, bigger odds are
rateing bet responsibly. Hard questions, strong opinion, Heather dupis Ellen
drive with one New Zealand hand of power of satellite
mobile news dogs.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
They'd be heither. No one flies in or out of Kiev.
You have to travel by train from the border or
by bust or card. No one flies. Thank you for that.
Haven't been there this war, but maybe you have, so
I appreciate that here a team that can't beat the
Argies is not going to beat the Arps. Hugh, you
say this, and I thought this. I'd given up. But

(13:09):
then I was talking to Elliott yesterday. You know Elliott,
Elliott Smith, voice of rugby, and he near knows a
thing or two about rugby. And he said to me, now,
it's all blacks two two about a two. He reckons
that all blacks are going to smash the Yarpe's. So
I took a bet with him. I took a bet,
not because I don't have confidence in the all Blacks,
maybe I don't, but also because I was just being
I mean, if he says that, you've just got like

(13:31):
he said it with so much confidence. It was begging
for a bet. So we put a bottle of whiskey
on it to see what happens. And by the way,
are just a little bit more sporting newsers at the
Blues have decided they're going to stay with Eden. Park
after all, remember how they were floating that idea that
they were going to go to Mount Smart for a
couple of games. Blah blah. It didn't happen. It was
all just a ruse and they with Eden Park all
the way for next season for twenty six. Now stop

(13:52):
the presses because something weird has happened and I don't
understand it. But the Mildi Party have apologized. So what's
happened is that there's a photograph. Takuta Ferris, who's one
of the Maori Party MP's, got his hands on a
photograph from the Labor Party. You and I would look
at it and go, it's the Labor Party campaigning whooped
the doo, big deal, But he just saw so much
stuff he didn't like in it. It was a photo

(14:13):
of a bunch of Labor Party people campaigning for Peni
hen Nade. But it had an Indian guy in there,
and it had a couple of African guys, and it
had an Asian check and some white people and only
one Mahordi person. And he put it on his social
media and said, this blows my mind. Indians, Asians, black
and Parki how campaigning to take a Maori seat from Mary.

(14:34):
What can you say? The guy's an idiot. But anyway,
Willie Jackson got upset about it, accused him of racism.
The Maori Party came out and this is the weird bit.
They apologized for it and they forced Takuta Ferris to
take it down. Now, what's going on because the Maori Party,
this is not even the most racist thing the Marti
Party's ever done in their lives. So why all of
a sudden can't I can't explain it. I feel like

(14:56):
something's going on here. We'll ask Barry when he's with
us in around about twenty minutes to News is Next.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's Heather duplic Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage
like no one else News talks.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They'd be.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Heather. I'd vote for any party that took Australia's policy
on that is the immigration policy. That's the one where
if you're a baddie from somewhere else, we don't hang
on to you because we feel like we owe you
some sort of a responsibility. We just send you on
back home wherever you're from. Eric Is Stanford, the Minister
who's proposing some of these changes is with us after
five o'clock. Also, by the way, our golden balls has
been added again, so Simeon, So, I don't know if

(15:58):
you're aware of this, but the senior doctors threatening to strike,
they're going to make the ballancing at the moment or whatever.

Speaker 11 (16:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
They're going to make a decision by Monday. And he
has basically stepped in, which from what I understand, is
kind of unusual for a minister. He stepped in and said, right,
I've had a guts full, you're off to final arbitration.
Both of you agree to it.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
Go on.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Health New Zealand has said yes, they're up for it.
Doesn't look at the stage that we've heard from the
senior doctors as to whether they're going to do it
or not, whether they're going to final arbitration or strike
or whatever. We're going to talk to Simon Brown about that.
Just after five o'clock, Murray Olds is standing by in
Barry Soper. In ten minutes time, twenty four away from five.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
It's the World wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
At least fifteen people are dead in Lisbon after a
crash on the city's famous yellow Fanne Killer crams. It's
not clear what calls the crash, but the carriage was
almost completely destroyed. This lady's saw what happened.

Speaker 9 (16:49):
When I look back, I saw the crash.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
The only person I noticed it was not inside the
left but a man standing on the pavement, and it's
unlikely that he's unharmed.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
I couldn't see anyone inside the tramp because it all
harkings so quick.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
A hot mic has caught Putin and g plotting to
live forever.

Speaker 12 (17:05):
The Russian leader's translator could be heard saying biotechnology is
continuously developing, adding human organs can be continuously transplanted. The
longer you live, the younger you become, and you can
even achieve immortality.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
That was Putin. That's a bit creepy, isn't it. That's scary.
Potin has confirmed that, yeah, he and G did have
plans to significantly increase life expectancy. And finally, the painting
that was looted by the Nazis and then recently popped
up in Argentina, you know that one has been recovered
by the authorities. It's called Portrait of a Lady was
spotted in that real estate ad that was posted by

(17:44):
a Nazi fugitive's daughter. The painting has been handed over
by her lawyer and the daughter is under house arrest
for trying to conceal it.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Mariol's OSSI corresponds with us.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Mus Hello here they're going to happen.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Any updates on this chap who's been running around in
the bush?

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Does he Freeman know? There's not there's a bit of interest,
I must say, renewed interests in his wife. Apparently she
was in the in the van the bus when mister
Freeman allegedly opened fire and killed two police. She's been
arrested briefly, along with a fifteen year old boy. We
understand her son, but they've been released on bail. I

(18:27):
presume on bail. And No, there's been no update that
I'm familiar with. I've been listening to the news all
day and reading across different websites, but no, I've seen nothing.
They're still looking for him. Day nine. It was day ten,
Day nine.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Day take on this is this?

Speaker 3 (18:41):
When does this get embarrassing for the cops?

Speaker 7 (18:44):
Well, look, he may be dead, he may have taken
his own life. And it's a it's an extremely rough area.
There are all sorts of abandoned mine shafts, there are caves,
there are you know, it's extremely rugged country. And if
you want to go out there and do away with
yourself at the bottom of a mind shaft, will they
be going to find you? Yeah, you know, it's that

(19:06):
sort of country. Heather, Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Hey, what's this robodebt update?

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well, the government.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
Just go back to the start. Under Scott Morrison, there
was this algorithm used by the Department of Social Security.
It was a new piece of tech that they said,
oh that you know, we'll be able to catch welfare cheats. Well,
they rounded up nearly five hundred thousand people and said
you owe the government money. And in many in almost

(19:35):
every case, it was absolute horsepoo, It was rubbish. This
algorithm got it completely wrong, and in some cases people
took out big debts they couldn't afford and could never repay,
to try and repay this debt tragically, sadly, in other cases,
people took their own lives because they just said, well,
we can't pay this debt and I don't know where
it's come from, and I can't I can't keep going anymore.

(19:59):
Now under Scott Morrison's leadership, that was the algorithm used
and the government at that time agreed to pay up
one hundred and twelve million dollars in compensation. Well, lawyers
for those involved went back as in your kidny, we
run a whole lot more than that. And now with
the approval still to come from the Federal Court, another

(20:19):
four hundred and seventy five million dollars has been approved
to be paid, so it's well over half a billion
Australian dollars now that you know, if the Federal Court
signs off on this, we'll go to those who were
affected by this dreadful piece of government, just complete government bungling.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
What about John Howard, what's he had to say?

Speaker 7 (20:41):
Well, I don't know, he's a bit like Bob Catter.
Perhaps they're just too old and he shouldn't go to
them for headlines anymore. But I mean John Howard's come
out swinging against Anthony Alberesi's decision to formally recognize the
Palestinian state. Elbow was off to the United Nations General
Assembly this month and will make that confirmation during a
speech to the UN. Now Alexander down Of, the former

(21:02):
Liberal Foreign minister one time would be Prime Minister and
mister Howard have signed a joint statement saying they're absolutely
poored by Elbow's decision, accusing pardon me, they said, the
former Labor Prime Minister Bob Hawk was a very strong
friend of Israel. What Albanese he's done, according to John Howard,
is a betrayal of Israel by Australia. According to mister Howard,

(21:26):
the only democracy in the Middle East now is under
threat from Australia. It's all about, he says, domestic political gain,
maybe a shred of truth more than that, but reducing
statehood to a prize that can be simply handed out
at the whim of any political leader. I'm not sure
where this has come from or why it's come at
this particular time, but certainly John Howard's come out swinging

(21:48):
against Anthony Albanezi.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Thank you for that, much appreciate it. Murray Old's Australia Correspondent,
nineteen away from five.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Ever, do proceed, by the way.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Update on the mushroom Chef Aaron Patterson, So such as
the interest and what's going to happen to her that
for the first time ever, the Victorian Supreme Court is
going to live broadcast her sentencing. Unfortunately, though, it's going
to be nothing. You know, how you get the live
you get the live trials in the States. I'm thinking,
oh J. Simpson was one of them, wasn't it. Where

(22:16):
it's all like it's really intense and extraordinary and fun.
It's not going to be anything like you're not going
to be able to sit there and go popcorn, gobble gobble.
It's only unfortunately going to the camera is going to
be focused on the judge, so you're gonna have to
be really committed, like really committed to the story to
sit there for half an hour at the very least,
because the judge, because the judge reckons the broadcast, reckons

(22:36):
the closing remarks. Justice Spiel reckons closing remarks are going
to be thirty minutes with Justice Biel says, thirty minutes.
You want to double that. You want to at least fifteen,
You want to at least fifty percent, so you want
to go forty five. And then you know, it takes
it takes a hell of a long time to get
everybody called all stand judge is late call all stand
judge comes in, sit down, you know, like that whole
kerfuffle around it and everybody rise and all that, and

(22:58):
then somebody will cry in the court and upter she.
You know, it'll just it'll take a long time. It'll
be an hour on a locked off shot of the judge.
But if you're into it. If you're into it, and
I'm not not that much Monday, that's when you want
to tune in here the what kind of whiskey are
you giving away? I'm not well, am I though? Am
I giving? Are you sure I'm giving away whiskey? Because
I have taken the bet that the spring Box are

(23:19):
gonna win, and Elliott has taken the bet that the
All Blacks are gonna win. I'm not, I'm not all.

Speaker 9 (23:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I reckon. This is one of those ones that could
could all just happen on the day, couldn't it. But
if I was giving away whiskey, at least if Elliott's listening,
you better be buying me this one. It's the Scapegrace
and it's the Fortuna. Now, if you like your whiskey,
if you like your whiskey. You need to try the
escape Grace for Tuna, because I am something of I'm
not like, I'm not a whiskey nose like j Cinda

(23:45):
is and how she's like, I've got all the collection
of the whole whiskey, and I'm like, I'm not like that,
not a clown about it. I just like a good whiskey.
And I reckon without a word of a lie, that
this is probably one of the this is it's definitely
the least when we make the whole country. I reckon
it's the best New Zealand whiskey. Now the word of
a lie, it's probably one of the best ones I've

(24:06):
ever tried. I'm I'm more of the peat bet so
I like a leg of vulin, do you know what
i mean, Like, I'm leaning towards that kind of a thing,
like I can still what's that other one that smells
like Pete hard Out it's famous for it, you know,
the one I'm thinking of the white bottle, you know
what I'm talking about. I lean that way, So this
is what I'm into. So anyway, yeah, sure, I mean, look,
don't worry about it if you feel if the South
Africans win. And you've just been taking a silent beat

(24:28):
with me this whole time, going I bet you, Heather, well,
you just send that Scapegrace for tuna in. Don't worry
about it. I'll happily take it off your hands.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Sixteen away from five politics with centric credit, check your
customers and get payment certainty.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Here the pocono whiskey? No, not that one, not that one.
And actually I still and I've tried it. I'm still
telling you now the scape Grace beats that thirteen away
from five? Very so cool and agree more?

Speaker 7 (24:49):
Do you?

Speaker 10 (24:49):
Yeah? No?

Speaker 11 (24:50):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Is that why the pocono is still sitting there with
about it an inch left in the bottom.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (24:54):
You drank I'm a bottle, but you left the inch,
So I don't think I drank most of the bottle.

Speaker 11 (24:59):
To be perfectly on, I think I've only had one
or two of the pokono ones, yes, but certainly the Scapegrace.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
What have you got written on the top of your page?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
La freud?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Thank you? That is the one you were looking for one?

Speaker 2 (25:09):
All right?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
So what's going on with the racism?

Speaker 9 (25:13):
Well, you know, I mean it is an.

Speaker 11 (25:15):
Election campaign, and I thought Takuta Ferris he's always running
on at the mouth making mistakes, so whenever he enters
into the fray, and he should never have been poking
his nose into the tumacking mccauldo by election anyway, but
nevertheless he did, and that post I think was offensive.

(25:37):
He said it blows his mind Indians, Asians, Blacks and
paki a campaigning to take a Maldy seat from Maldy.
And then he had emojis with his head exploding and
looking confused. While he's a confused man about politics, I
think he doesn't understand the basic tenants of the business.
Willie Jackson certainly said the post by Ferris is out

(26:00):
of line.

Speaker 13 (26:01):
It's totally unacceptable and really it's showing huge disrespect to
those people who will support Maori. You know, we don't
apologize and Labor for working with our different electorates, some
of them Yeah, ethnic Pacifica.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
We think it's great.

Speaker 13 (26:21):
May've got strong Maori membership, but one of the things
in Labor is everyone's contributing and it's not just about
mild it's about at it's about New Zealand. So it's
really disappointing from him. He should know better.

Speaker 11 (26:35):
Yeah, I think certainly Penny Henan, I would think would
be odds on favorite. If you're looking at the tab
lay money on him.

Speaker 8 (26:44):
I'd so.

Speaker 11 (26:44):
It seems that Ferris's political boss, Debbie Narriwa Paka, she
agrees with Willie.

Speaker 14 (26:50):
It's a style of politicking that we don't like and
we're not good at doings. So please forgive us. We're
now Fino are human and really trying to say why
are we fighting general role or general electorate? In peace
and all of this and so anyway the media and
of course guess who the first one was?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
New Zealand hero couldn't wait to jump up.

Speaker 14 (27:13):
They've been dying to jump up and finds us slip up. Well,
guess what We're going to slip up numerous times in life.
And my uttle heart for all the offense caused.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Grovel, grovel, something funny is going on here. I mean,
this is the party, Barry, this is a Marti party.
Hoove accused the government of genocide who regularly use I
mean the other day I saw a photograph of one
of them posing with a pistol. I mean, for God,
sat and happy to say bizarre things about superior DNA
and their policies how have completely unapologetic for all of that.

(27:45):
So why are they suddenly apologizing for this.

Speaker 11 (27:47):
It's a by election and it's being held on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
But do they do they think that they're going to
repel their voters with something like this or can I
give you?

Speaker 15 (27:58):
Can I get?

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (27:59):
I think they do repels.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Is it possible that Labor and the Marori Party have
realized that in order for the two of them to
be a credible alternative for government, that kind of racist
crap has got they have to tone. Are we actually
seeing that the start of the Marori Party being a
bit responsible?

Speaker 14 (28:17):
No?

Speaker 11 (28:18):
I don't think. I think after this, after the by
election's over, it'll be back to business as usual.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh I thought I thought this was I thought with them,
this was this was them leading up to responsibility in
twenty twenty six. No, I wouldn't know. Okay, Hey, so
Judith Collins has been in Ukraine.

Speaker 11 (28:33):
Yeah, one of these top secret meetings. I've been on
a couple to Iraq and to Afghanistan after the Taliban
got out of there. So they are top secret. They're
quite fun to be on if you're a journalist. And
she did take one or two journalists with her. I think,
because you have to be sworn to secrecy, you can't
allow anyone to know where you're going, what's happening. And

(28:55):
so that's what happened. She went to Keiv, which is
pretty you know, pretty dodgy place at the moment, but
Crusha Colin, she went there as defense minister. She met
her Ukrainian counterpart, she met the foreign affairs minister in
the country, and you know, good luck to her. And
I think the solidarity that New Zealand showing to Ukraine,

(29:18):
I think is very important. And just by the way,
here there's relation to Ukraine. Now, I think there's a
bottle of gin that you owe me, because I was
reading today that neither Zelenski nor Putin appear ready for
direct talks about another meeting, and that comes from Trump himself,

(29:39):
So it's he said, that doesn't appear to be really,
they don't appear to be ready for direct talks as well.
That means that means that Putin has bloody taken advantage
of Trump.

Speaker 9 (29:51):
Yeah, you are correct, okay, And I have made my
escape grace, and I do.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Owe you a bottle of I was far too optimistic
about Trump's ability to pull something like this off. He
has failed, has he not?

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Okay, thank you. Barry very sober, senior political correspondent, right
away from five.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakbait.

Speaker 16 (30:16):
The Housing Minister wants the potential for two million more
homes in Auckland.

Speaker 9 (30:19):
Local MP David Seawalls with US.

Speaker 17 (30:20):
I talked to people at the Herald who say that
the most read story last week.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Was about this topic.

Speaker 17 (30:26):
That if you go to the Auckland Council website, the
thing that people are most interested in as one of
the most hidden things.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
My challenge to Auckland Council is ratepayers paid for these maps.

Speaker 17 (30:35):
You've been preparing them since April and then you released
them after Parliament voted on the legislation, but chose to
prepare a plan that you used for your purposes, but
not so informed public debate about and I think that
as Shane fall, they should put it on the front
page of the website.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Back tomorrow at six am. The mic Hosking Breakfast with
Raindrover News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Good call from Audrey Young four away from five. Very
good call from Audrey Young again Audrey is known for this.
She does a weekly newsletter in the Herald and it's
worth checking out, full of politics and stuff like that.
She mentioned the drama it's going on over in Australia
with the neo Nazi Thomas Sewell, and then she pointed
out that you know Andrew Bolt who's on Sky TV.
She pointed out that he had the audacity this week
to suggest that Australia ends up with the worst New Zealanders,

(31:19):
and she retorted, we know how you feel, Andrew. Two words,
Brenton Tarrant. Good from you, Audrey, very nice. Now listen
to this, hang on with it. Yeah, that that's my knuckles.
Do you know what that is? That is a gigantic nang.
You know how I was talking to you about the

(31:39):
nangs the other day about how the kids that was
it yesterday? It was yesterday, wasn't it. Yeah, So talking
about how the kids are not doing the little nangs anymore.
They're doing gigantic nangs, like massive nangs like this nang.
This nang is like the size of when you go
scuba diving and you have one of those those things
on your back, the little tankies on your back. That's
how big that is. Anyway, there is a yarn. Let

(32:00):
me tell you there's no way that this is being
used for whipping cream. This is definitely being used for
sucking in and getting high. Anyway, I have a yarn
as to how I have ended up with a nang
on my desk covered in mud, and I'm going to
tell you that yarn before the next hour is through.
So stand by, but Erica Stanford, hold on, it's actually
really bloody heavy because it's full. We thought it was empty,
but it's actually full. Is this illegal? We don't know.

(32:27):
We don't know if it's illegal what we're doing right? Anyway,
it's there. Erica Stanford's with us next, and then Simon Brown, the.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Only drive show you can try the truck to ask
the question, get the answers, find and give the analogy.
Here the duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and
the Power of Satellite Mobile News doorgsp Afternoon.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
The government's proposing to step up its deportation game. Currently,
we can't deport criminals if they've been residents of New
Zealand for more than ten years. A proposed law change
would extend that to twenty years. Erica Stanford is the
Minister of Immigration High Erica. Hey, how are you would this?
I'm well thank you? Would this allow us to deport
the Mama Hooch brothers.

Speaker 18 (33:21):
That's exactly where this started from. It's a pretty disgusting
case and the fact that they've been here for longer
than ten years means that we are unable to deport them.
And this is where all this work started from, which
is just toughening up to make sure that we can
deport people who have committed serious sexual and violent offenses.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
So you're extending it to twenty years. Have those boys
been here less than twenty years?

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Like?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Are we going to be able to get rid of them?

Speaker 18 (33:47):
Well, this will be one of the we won't be
in this case because it's not retrospective. This will be
future focused. But there will be a question for the
Select Committee to work out whether or not twenty years
is the right the right number of years? I mean,
should it be longer? Should it be?

Speaker 9 (34:01):
Whenever?

Speaker 18 (34:02):
I've set it it twenty years? But are we very
interested to hear what the public's feedback is and their
tolerance for people who permit such crimes. You know, if
you've been here for thirty years or forty years or
does it not matter? So I'd like to hit a
public feedback.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I mean, isn't there a case Erica for actually, if
you haven't got citizenship, if you're on a residence visa
and you've been here sixty years and you decide to
kill somebody or rape somebody, you're out the door.

Speaker 18 (34:25):
Well, yet, that is something we should definitely consider through
the select committee process.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
How many criminals have we got in the country right
now who we'd love to be able to deport but
can't because of the ten year rule.

Speaker 18 (34:36):
Well, that's a great question. There won't be many. They'll
probably just a small handful, I expect. I don't actually
know that, and it may be that Immigration don't have
those figures either, But certainly, moving forward, let's get them
on their bike.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
So what did you make of that quite large number
of overstairs.

Speaker 18 (34:54):
Well, it was a number I was expecting. I'd kind
of guessed myself that's where it would land. It is
really difficult to know what the actual figures have been
in the past. We've never measured it like this before.
There has been a number come in since the border
has reopened, and that was a product of the fact
that immigration New Zealand their systems and processes in terms
of proper verification and risk management were up to scratch.

(35:17):
They've certainly been tightened now, but it does mean that
they're going to need a few extra tools in the
toolbox to help move people on.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Why have we got so many American overstays, it's just
a proportion.

Speaker 18 (35:28):
We have a lot of Americans come in and visit
like we do a lot of Chinese as well, So
when you actually look at it by percentage of people
who come in, it's very different. The Americans drop right down.
There is only point one four percent of Americans who
overstay their visas, so it's actually quite low.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Well, somebody suggested that it was because of McMurdo stations.
So they come into the New Zealand, they fly down
to Antarctic, you don't have to get anything stamped on
the way to Antarctica, and then they go over to
McMurdo and perhaps exit through Chili or something and never
never officially leave New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (36:00):
I'll look into that. I'm not sure that's the case.
We've got quite sophisticated data monitoring now, so I'll look
into it. But I'm not sure that's the case, Erica.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Thank you, Erica Stamford, Immigration Minister. She's trying to tell
me I was wrong, but being kind about it. The
numbers are twenty one thousand overstays. The top three countries
where those overstayers are from Tonga with two thousand, six hundred,
China with two thy six hundred and the US with
twenty two hundred.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Good Heather do for ce Ellen.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Health Minister Simon Brown stepped in to sort out the
senior doctor strike. He's told both Health New Zealand and
the Senior Doctors Union to go to mandatory arbitration to
settle their seemingly endless pay dispute. Health New Zealand has
agreed Senior Doctors haven't. Simon Brown is with me now, Hi,
saman Good evening, Heather. This is unusual from a minister
to step in like this, isn't it?

Speaker 19 (36:47):
Well?

Speaker 5 (36:47):
It's been going on for twelve months now. Both parties
have not been able to come to an agreement. The
latest offer from Health New Zealand was rejected by the
union on Monday, and the union decided to meet mediately
ballot its members to go to strike later this month.
My view is that it's going to be detrimental to
thousands of patients who've been already waiting too long for care,

(37:11):
and so I've asked both parties to agree to binding
arbitration so that we can settle this without having further strikes.

Speaker 9 (37:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Can I just clarify though with you, because I've been
told ministers don't do this, So is it unusual?

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Well, I guess it's unusual in that I'm asking both
parties to come to the party, come to the table.
But I have been saying that for some time, so
I've formally written to them, but I have been saying
for some time actually that we have to negotiate these deals.
Striking is not the answer. But look, this is a
pathway through. I've invited both parties to take part in

(37:46):
that with an independent arbitrator. I'm pleased at Health New
Zealand has agreed to that. I've provided a deadline of
four pm tomorrow for the parties to come back to me.
But ultimately this is about ensuring we can find a
way through where this is settled and agreed without dragging
on and without further impacts on patients who've already been

(38:08):
waiting too long for the care that they need weight
lists of ballooned. We're making good progress this year with
reducing those weight lists. We're seeing some good progress, particularly
with our elective boost. But if we have further strikes,
that is going to mean those weight lists will go
in the wrong direction. So we're trying to we're trying
to get away through this Listen.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Is that enough time four pm tomorrow? Because as far
as I understand, the union is still balancing its members
as to whether to strike, So they're not going to
have enough time to go to their members to ask
whether to go to final arbitration, are they.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Well, Look, ultimately, that's a question you'd have to put
to the union. I'm trying to urt a strike. If
they were to strike, patients would start having their bookings
canceled from late next week. And so we have timers
of the essence to actually agree a pathway through which

(38:56):
does not require further strikes and further cancelation of care
for paid So we have acted quickly. Time is of
the essence to ensure that patients can be put first
and that we can deal with this and make it
get find a way through and reach an agreement without
further strikes and impacts on patients.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, so me and thank you very much for your time.
Simmy and Brown are the Health Minister?

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Heather dopsy Allen, Heather, Why are.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
The deportation changes not respective? It makes a retrospective It
makes no sense is because it's a very bad idea
to do anything retrospectively. That'll probably you could make it
retrospective if you wanted to, but generally that's not how
you make law. But can I say on some look,
can't deport the Jazz brothers And probably under the changes
as you heard from the Minister, will not be able
to deport the Jazz brothers anyway. But the good news

(39:42):
is that the Jazz Brothers will probably want to go
back to Australia when they get out of jail because
everybody knows who they are and they're not going to
be able to walk around and have a good time,
do you know what I mean. We're all going to
be like, oh, look, that's one of the Mama Hooch brothers.
So they probably want to go back to the country
of their birth. Anyway. That's the sound of the nang.
We're going to talk about that fourteen par past five
big news for both business and nature lovers here One

(40:03):
New Zealand has just teamed up with the Department of
Conservation in a partnership that is all about protecting New
Zealand's unique biodiversity using the power of technology. So what's
happened is that DOC has named One New Zealand a
New Conservation national conservation partner in a collaboration that's expected
to direct fourteen million dollars into supporting and protecting nature
over the coming years. Now, this is basically thanks to

(40:26):
One New Zealand cutting edge satellite to cell tech. Basically,
what it means is the dock rangers are going to
be able to have better connectivity. They'll have safer field work,
faster data collection, smarter decisions in some of New Zealand's
most remote places. One New Zealand satellite text is already
proving really valuable in past where the dock rangers protect
the Kiwi. It allows them to keep in touch with base,

(40:47):
receive the weather updates, request help if they need it.
As One New Zealand CEO Jason Parris says, this is
about using technology to help preserve our natural heritage. A
powerful combo of business smart and environmental care, better connectivity,
better conservation. Just a win win for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Heather Duper see Ellen.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Eighteen past five. Got a little update for you on
the city to see the hideous bridge in Wellington. Standby,
I'll run you through it. Eighteen past five Now the
All Blacks team to face the spring Box at Eden
Park on Saturday has been named. Finley Christie is going
to start a half back to replace Cortez Ratima who
is injured. Wallace the Titi will start at number eight
to Poe VII has moved from loose forward to Locke.
Scotty Hansen is the All Blacks assistant coach and with

(41:28):
us now, Hey Scotty.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
The hell are you talking?

Speaker 9 (41:32):
Well?

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Thanks mate, it's good to talk to you again. How
injured is Cortez?

Speaker 16 (41:36):
Yeah, injured enough not to play this one.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
He wasn't far off at the time.

Speaker 16 (41:42):
It was an injury we thought may have been a
little bit longer. But he's worked really well. He's given
himself an opportunity to be possibly available in the coming weeks.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Are you are you being because you guys are being
a little secretive about this A you are.

Speaker 16 (41:56):
I don't think so that is it a customers of
what's that? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (42:02):
What's happened to him? Is it a cut or a
sprain or is it a smashing of something?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
What's happened now with.

Speaker 16 (42:09):
Cortez, it's a upper body injury around the rib region.
And the medical advice there was in the cost of
muscle and the like, it wasn't an option this week
to play.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I regret asking you that question because I have no
idea what the.

Speaker 16 (42:28):
And I was hoping I knew what I was saying
like there, but and neither do I. I'm one of
these coaches that is in or not so and at
the stage is not available fair enough.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Hey, Fabian Holland, what's he done to get put back.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
On the bench.

Speaker 16 (42:42):
Oh, he's played really well, so he's got the opportunity
to come from the bench. We just fell it with
this one. The experience that we have at our locks,
Fabian has done a great job for us. We know
we will give coming off the bench, so the opportunity
is there. And it's also one of those games here
that that is important how you finish, So he'll come on.

(43:03):
He'll give us a lot of power through the middle
and We've been really pleasantly what can I say that
really supportive around what he has done his first number
of tests. He's come on the scene really well. This
one for us coming off the beach, got.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Something special plan for Ardie's hundredths to test.

Speaker 16 (43:24):
Yeah, yeah, he's a pretty special man. He deserves something special.
I think for us just focusing on this test and
winning some moments for Ardie. And we know Ardi is
a very special person, a special all Black, so one
hundred percent where we're going out there to put in
performance he can be proud of and it's it's important we.

Speaker 7 (43:43):
Do that now.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Scotty, you know, fair to say bit of nerves, a
bit of nerves out there amongst the public about this one.
How are you guys feeling?

Speaker 16 (43:52):
No, I think those nerves are fair, and especially when
you know we've just come off a loss and it's
fear to feel the nerves. We've got an Eden Park
that we're really proud of to play on. It's you know,
it's Steelbeck's playing at home essentially, and what that feels
like still backs sort of that feeling of coming home.
So it's fear to have nerves and to be fear

(44:15):
in our environment and it's been a week that's we've
been focused on the performance and winning moments, but there
should be some nerves there because it's a great opportunity
for us. So yeah, when the allback's a little bit
nervous around our week in the light, it's usually we
were about our best.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
It's good and good insight. Scott a best of luck,
Scotty Hanson, All Blacks Assistant coach. Five two.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
The day's newspakers talked to Heather first Heather du for the.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Ellen Drive with One New Zealand and the power of
satellite Mobile News doorgs Envy.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Heather Good on Simeon, I'm priority to and already on
a forty seven week wait when it should be six
to eight weeks. Thanks Amy. So five twenty four. You
want to know why he's called golden bulls. This is
why because Simon Brown has just very nicely snooked the
sing your doctors thinking about going on strike. He has
done something that's unusual for a minister and told both sides,
the doctors and Health New Zealand to go to binding

(45:07):
arbitration and they've gone until four pm tomorrow to decide,
and Health New Zealand has already said yes, we will,
because of course they have Simeon's their boss. And it
only leaves one side who hasn't said yes, and that's
the senior doctors. And they're in a pickle here because
they have to agree. If they don't, they're going to
look like they're playing silly buggers and not really trying
to get a deal, which has been going on for

(45:27):
a year now, this negotiation. Now, why would they want
to play silly buggers?

Speaker 6 (45:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Let's think about it. Would it be that we all
of a sudden have the nurses union on strike, and
the secondary teachers on strike the union and now the
senior doctors union threatening to strike. Why would that all
of a sudden happen at once? Would it be if
you believe the government that maybe a couple of those
unions went on strike before even really putting their offers
to members or spending much time in negotiation. Why would

(45:55):
that have happened. Would it be because multiple strikes, one
after the other create the impression that things falling apart
for a government that is run by parties that the
unions are not really friendly with. Would it be that
calling strikes while other strikes are on puts the government
at a disadvantage politically and therefore more likely to just
agree to what you want. I mean, that's a smart
play from unions until it isn't until Simon Brown Snook

(46:16):
is one of them and makes them choose say yes
to arbitration and look like this really is just about
paying conditions for your members, or say no, call that
strike and look like you really are just playing silly buggers.
Do all right? The nangs here, it is okay, this
is what happened. Listen, there's my hard proof that I've

(46:36):
got in my hands. So what happened is Sam, the producer,
went for a drive last night at midnight, he tells me,
because he needed a cookie, as we all do, and
he says that he saw on the side of the
road a giant nang lying on the side. This is
the nangs that we were talking about on the show yesterday,
a giant nang just lying on this. I believe him

(46:57):
that that is what happened because it is possible to
spot the sly. It's giant. It's huge. It's like the
size of your forearm, but that as thick as your thigh.
Depending on how thick your thighs are and blue, so
you would have seen it. And it also he has
delivered it to me covered in mud, so I believe
that this is truly truly where he found the thing. Anyway,
he said to us, O, it's not empty, it's empty,

(47:19):
and it's broken. Well, we fixed it, didn't we? Somebody
here knows what to do and fix the thing?

Speaker 9 (47:24):
And sure, and what do I do? And do I
turn this?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
How do I make it open?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
What do I do? Am I doing it? Hey?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
What I'm trying? They said, I'm not. I'm obviously not
a drug user because I'm trying to turn the thing
open and I can't and I'm terrified it's gonna explode
in my face. Anyway, we've confirmed that it's it is
full anyway, So the point is simply and look at
the thing. Is this is this is like now that
I've seen it, right now that I've got it right
in front of me, it is one hundred percent not

(47:55):
for whipping cake cake cream.

Speaker 9 (47:57):
It is.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
It's got gangster writing all over it. It's a young
people who want to get high on this stuff, and
it's not made for boosting cars or anything like this.
It is giant canisters of nitrous oxide that people are
going to get high on. Sam, how do I open it?

Speaker 18 (48:10):
Here?

Speaker 15 (48:11):
Comes?

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Hold on, he's gonna run in. He's running in, Sam,
do it?

Speaker 10 (48:13):
Do it?

Speaker 17 (48:16):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (48:17):
Oh oh, we're nearly there.

Speaker 6 (48:18):
Come on?

Speaker 9 (48:19):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
And how follid is? Did you hear that?

Speaker 9 (48:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I can put it away now? All right, talk to
you soon.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
The name you trust to get the answers you need,
it's Heather duplic Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage
like no one else us talk.

Speaker 7 (48:39):
There'd be.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Right after six. Christ Bishop is going to be with
us on this housing text usht he's having with David Seamore.
The huddles standing by just really quickly on the City
to see Bridge in Wellington. The people who are trying
to get the thing kept stop the council demolishing it
have decided not to appeal. They haven't got enough, they say,
and Wellington City Council does. But they are actually asking

(49:03):
people to use civil disobedience. I'll give you a bit
more on that shortly and we'll talk to the huddle
about it right now. It's twenty four away from six. Now,
as you know, it's been a lot of chat lately
about shaking up the public service. It's been reported there
are plans to merge the Ministry for Women, Pacific Peoples
and Disabled People into other ministries and also this week
the New Zealand Initiative recommended cutting the number of departments
by half. Now, Sir Brian Roach is the Public Service Commissioner.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Hi, Brian Good, how are you well?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Thank you? So tell us are you getting rid of
the Ministry for Women and the Pacific People's Ministry and
the Ministry for Disabled People?

Speaker 19 (49:36):
No, that is not part of the plan. What the
plan is designed to do is actually amalgamate existing agencies
to give them scale and give them resilience so they
have greater impact in the system. There is a view
which I share that there are some agencies which are
below critical mass. It's no fault of their own and
we need to actually strengthen them and that's what we're

(49:58):
going to do.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
But brand and will continue right, So these three are
you going to put them together? You're merging them.

Speaker 19 (50:06):
It is one of a number of proposals which we're
still working through. So like I'm not making any public
announcements about who's in and who's out, but I was
asked to look at better ways of running the public
sector to get greater efficiency, greater sense of purpose and
better customer citizen outcomes.

Speaker 16 (50:24):
And that's what I've been doing.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
If you merge them, do you merge the people's, the
population ministries together or do you merge them into something bigger.

Speaker 19 (50:34):
The first thing is to merge them, is to consolidate
to catch the scale that's required to be resilient.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
So you know where they all end up.

Speaker 19 (50:43):
And you know, I know this is incredibly unsettling for people,
but it's unsettling to be doing what they're currently doing
with ongoing budget cuts. They are reality of our life
and we have to find a new way of conducting
our business.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
And so are you just looking at these three that
have gone public or are you actually open to something
as big as the New Zealand Initiative has suggested.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
All options remain on the table.

Speaker 19 (51:07):
I mean, the initiative is one worldview. I think these
things have to evolve. I don't look at this being
a big bang in my own personal view, and these ultimately,
these are decisions and ministers, I think we need to
make some decisions about where we want to be in
five years time and actually orientate the system towards that
we don't want to go through big slash burn downsizing.

(51:30):
Those things are debilitating and I don't see those as
being required at this point.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Do you not think that, if you're doing this right,
if you are taking a big old look at it,
and you're considering all options, should we not also add
in the possibility that some of these ministries are no
longer required and we should scrap some of them. I
would argue the Ministry for Women.

Speaker 19 (51:51):
Yeah, that's an argument that ministers will have. I'm playing
with the cards that I've got. Those ministries are seen
as critical. Their voice in the policy debate and their
voice to ensure that agencies are recognizing those constituencies remain
part of my claim cards.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Have you managed to get everybody back to work, back
into the office.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
I haven't.

Speaker 19 (52:13):
I haven't, unfortunately, But you know, we've talked about this previously.
Having people working from home makes sense in some circumstances,
but overwhelmingly fifty percent of public servants don't get that option. So,
based on my personal experience, I think we have a
very high number of people in the office.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
And so what's the roadblock. Why haven't you been able
to get them back.

Speaker 19 (52:34):
In because there are legitimate reasons for people to be
working from home. And you know, the whole policy that's
some objected to was you don't have it as of rights.

Speaker 6 (52:45):
You do it with the authority of your right like.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
What you're saying, as you're comfortable with the situation as
it is.

Speaker 19 (52:52):
I am comfortable with it. But I think you know,
if you look globally, a number of businesses.

Speaker 16 (52:57):
Have said you've got to be in the office every day.

Speaker 9 (53:00):
We are not of that mind.

Speaker 19 (53:01):
We don't think that's a point.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
We need to get to.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Brian listen, really appreciate your time. Thanks so much, sir,
Brian Roach, Public Service Commissioner twenty two.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find your
one of a kind.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I'm the Huddle of us this evening we have Mark Sainsbury,
broadcaster and Thomas Scrimger of the Maximum Institute. Hallo, lads,
Hello here though sains Oh, do you like those deportation plans?

Speaker 10 (53:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (53:25):
Look at I mean some of the stuff is just
pretty obvious, isn't it. Sort of things that have been
slipping through and especially you, and I think it was
the Jazz Brothers is what focused everyone's attention on this.
That sort of people could be here and look out
reasony the Aussie's seen to anyone who plays up back here.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
I think it's a move in the right. It will
be a popular move.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Yeah, totally. I mean, Thomas if because we are far
too soft if you think about it. The Aussies will
only keep you if you're a citizen, whereas we keep
you if you're a resident of more than ten years.
That's that's far too lax, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (54:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (54:00):
Well, I think extending the length of time you know,
people have been here and can still be deported is
a good thing, and ultimately I think it probably doesn't
even need to be a cat. I do think the
Aussies go too far, perhaps with people who are sort
of raised there from childhood, but we're not born there
and so essentially all of their connections have only ever
been a Ossie. They send them back to us and

(54:22):
we're not that impressed. So I think, you know, when
the government looks at this, perhaps they might consider people
who have had their childhoods in New Zealand as well
might be considered part of us. But you know what,
the other thing they're doing, which I thought was quite good,
was tiny I've strengthening some of the sentences for people
who are exploiting migrants, so they might be Kiwi citizens

(54:42):
who are hiring migrants and exploitive circumstances and keeping them here.
The migrant is committing an offense by overstaying, but so
is the employer. So I think that's another good move
that's been.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Where would you start the adulthood from.

Speaker 20 (54:57):
Well, I'm not sure where I would start the adulthood from.
I think i'd have at sixteen, which the story about
where people are at back to school?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
What do you reckon, Thomas, you've got here? After eighteen
you can go back?

Speaker 20 (55:07):
Oh, actolutely could be even later than that. You know,
if someone moves here as a sixteen year old, perhaps
we'd say that actually they had a substantive experience in
their home country, which is the main thing, And there'd
be a to what extent did they have agency in
moving here versus where their child and do they have
experience of where we are sending them back to, because
if they are from a country, you know they were

(55:29):
born somewhere else, but they've never had any lived experience
there to send them over there is perhaps no okay what.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
About this though? Saying so, so I grew up part
of my life in South Africa, right because a lot
of my mum's side of the family's from South Africa,
and we left for like my dad being ki, we
we moved between. But the last time that we moved
here was when I was twelve years old. You could
deport me to South Africa and I could pick my
life up. So maybe maybe we can make it from
if you were older than twelve, you're going home? What

(55:55):
do you reckon?

Speaker 6 (55:57):
Jeevus, we would want you in charge of this. I
didn't think of it. Look yeah, look up.

Speaker 15 (56:02):
And I agree with Thomas as well that we talk
about the five o ones. We certainly don't want that
situation here where were as Thomas, we're sending people back
to someone that have no experience.

Speaker 6 (56:12):
So where do you set that balance? Yeah, and I
certainly think that if you come over here eighteen.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Or over well, I just argue twelve, what's wrong with twelve?

Speaker 15 (56:27):
You came out here as twelve, and then twenty years
later you're getting sent back to where you came from.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
I'm pleased. Do you only think I'm thirty two?

Speaker 9 (56:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Yeah, But because if you've got family there, you can
pick it up anyway. I think. Look, I think I
need to be sent to the Select Committee. I'll I'll
mount a pretty good argument, Thomas. And you don't strike
me as somebody who's going to be into IKE, are you.

Speaker 20 (56:49):
I'm not hugely into Ike.

Speaker 16 (56:50):
You know.

Speaker 20 (56:51):
I think the best way to get furniture is to
get it. You steal at second hand off your family members.
Oh all for nature should be free is my basic take.
You know, don't want to spend money on furniture. There's
other things to buy in the world.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Saying so, I thought he'd be a man who was like,
you know, no, it has to be antique or something. No,
you're an antique man, no, aren't you saying so?

Speaker 6 (57:14):
I like a bit of like I like a bit
of deco stuff and whatever. I am dyed IQ the
open I used to go in the UK when I
was When I was over there, do you know what
I found the most interesting? I found it about it?
Though they were They were saying in the in the
release that they.

Speaker 15 (57:31):
Had twenty eight dedicated motorbike parking spots.

Speaker 6 (57:35):
Who's going to leave for thering home?

Speaker 9 (57:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (57:37):
What are you carrying home?

Speaker 2 (57:38):
For?

Speaker 6 (57:38):
My ketified?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
But do you know what it might be saying? So
because myself and Lawa of the German have figured out
because she's because she's from Europe, so they have i
KE al time, so she's already sussed this out. She says,
what you need to do is go in and then
just take photos of the things you want, then go
home and order it online and get it delivered because
you don't want to be slipping those boxes. So maybe
that's what the motorbike people are doing.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
Maybe it's right.

Speaker 15 (58:01):
How do you get a mesic and seeing someone down
with their sort of flat packed bed stretch.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Step through?

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Weird? Do things have happened? We'll take a break, come
back to you, guys.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Quarter to the huddle with New Zealand southebyst International Realty.
He's a global leader in luxury real estate.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Listen, I have if you've got tickets to Snoop Dogg,
I've got bad news for you. I've got potentially quite
bad news for you. So stand by because we're going
to talk about this urgently shortly. Thomas Scrimger and Mark
Sainsbury back on the huddle with us, Thomas, listen, I
need to get to the bottom or something, Okay. I
am curious about why the Maori Party has apologized for
Takuta Feris being a racist when they've never apologized for

(58:40):
being racists before. So what's up?

Speaker 20 (58:44):
Well, I mean, obviously the comments were deeply offensive and
to party. Mary may not be looking to win many,
many votes from a wide range of ethnicities in this
particular Marii Electric campaign. But if their goal is at
the end of the day, and you know, after the
next election and to form a government, it's going to
be hard to form a government without having any Indian, Asian,

(59:06):
Black or Party Our voters on board. And so even
if they're not pursuing those votes, certainly you'd think Labor
and the Greens are getting very very nervous if their
prospective coalition partners are alienating eighty five percent of the country.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
So, Thomas, are you arguing that it is possible that
maybe Labour has sat down with them and told them
to tone this stuff down.

Speaker 20 (59:29):
I'm not sure whether it has or has not happened,
but it should have if Labor is wanting to get
into government, the media. New Zealand voter is going to
be very worried if this kind of racialized language has
any place in our politics. I don't think Kiwis have
any interest in that kind of divisive rhetoric. So if
Chrishipkins wants to form a coalition that has any possibility

(59:52):
of getting anywhere, in any possibility of enduring, should it form,
he should have called the T Party Malori leaders and
read them the Riot Act.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
What do you reckon sayin Zo?

Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
Yeah, I mean the whole thing is just not good,
is it? You know?

Speaker 15 (01:00:04):
And and what why are they're apologizing over this? And
they haven't apologized in the past. I think it was
just so much in your face that they couldn't do
anything about it. And I think that what he Jackson
actually sometime he says that the guy needs to grow up.
I mean, what an absolutely stupid and offensive.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Thing to do.

Speaker 15 (01:00:21):
And and this comes back to this is the big
problem that labor must be just so worried about that,
you know, come come the election, that's it. It may
well be that the Maori Party could be deciding votes
and how they're going to deal with that, how are
they're going to you know they're going to have to
start calling them out and taking.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Them much stronger.

Speaker 15 (01:00:41):
Welling in this case, they didn't need to because they
could step back, and because everyone else was going to
pile and and even another thing is wo he Jackson
says that he said the queen was not impressed.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
Well, if that's true, that could well be another factor
as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Is the queen down at Coronahana?

Speaker 15 (01:00:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well he's saying, he's saying he seems
side not only with his leader, but also with the
new queen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Well it's not impressed. Well, then that tells you a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:01:05):
Done that and Willie's never going to miss an opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
How do you feel about the city to see I
feel like you like the city to see bridge, don't you?

Speaker 9 (01:01:16):
I do the thing?

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
I just what I cannot get my head around was
all this how much they kept saying.

Speaker 15 (01:01:22):
I mean, that's been around rage I you know, walk
around there and when you're going down the waterfront.

Speaker 6 (01:01:26):
It's it's a great thing to have. But I just
can't understand why this thing is so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Expensive, probably because it's just it's just cobbled together crap.

Speaker 15 (01:01:39):
If you do a shitty job first, you're indy on
the tools here, Why don't you get down there, give.

Speaker 9 (01:01:47):
Me a chainsaw.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I'm sort it out for really quickly.

Speaker 6 (01:01:51):
Thomas.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Heart out, Thomas. Apparently what they want is everybody who
loves loves the bridge to go do some civil disobedience.
What do you think is going to happen?

Speaker 20 (01:02:02):
Well, I don't know that they need to be doing
civil disobedience. I reckon a good old fashioned working bee.
Just get the gang together. Everyone brings their own hammer
and nails, and I reckon we can strengthen the thing up.
You know, back in the day, we didn't need to
do these engineering reports and anything. Just everyone who loves
the bridge, don't protest, bring yourselves. We can get it
squared away and I'm sure it'll all work out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Not a bad idea. If you love it, pay for
the fix. Thank you so much for you to Thomas
scrimser Mark stains Breek. Listen, Snoop, We've got to deal
with Snoop. Next eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
It's the Heather Duplessyl and Drive Full Show podcast on
my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Hither did you know though, that nitrous oxide that's the
stuff that's in the nangs. Did you know that that
is highly flammable and you probably breached all sorts of
company h and S rules health and safety rules? Loll
Steve Lo Lo lull. I know, well, I didn't thank
you for pointing that out after the fact. I didn't
realize that, and I would have obviously not done that
because I love health and safety. Five away from six now, yeah, okay,

(01:03:02):
So myself and the perimenopausal women the concert club bought
tickets to Snoop Dogg. Well, we decided should we got
a Snoop Dogg? And we were like, yeah, let's expand
our horizons and go to Snoop Dogg with all the
other hip hop kids. And when then we saw the
ticket price and we all paused, and when, guys, do
we want to pay that much for tickets? And the
tickets were two hundred and forty five dollars each two

(01:03:24):
hundred and forty How much did you pay Laura for
two tickets to Coldplay? Was it one sixty three point thirty? No,
it wasn't that. It was two tickets. It was a
one sixty each. Oh okay, yeah, so she paid one
sixty each to go to Coldplay? Which are people who
are not stone on stage doing a stadium show, and

(01:03:44):
we have paid two hundred and forty five dollars each
to go to Snoop Dogg, which is definitely going to
be a crapper, a crapper experience because it's at the
Dewdrop Events Center in Manekow and as a stoner on
the stage, anyway, we decided we'll do it. We'll do
as one of my friends said, you only live once,
and let's be honest, if you're at the perimenopausal stage,
not for much longer. So anyway, the problem is that

(01:04:06):
today we've discovered that the guy who was running it
is the same guy who ran Juicy Fest and Timeless
Summer Tour. Do you remember that scandal, because what happened
there was everybody's really excited because that funny guy was
going to come, you know, the one boy George, he
was going to come, and all of these eighties musicians
were going to come, and everybody bought their tickets and
then suddenly the event was canceled and no one's been

(01:04:27):
refunded for it yet, and then the companies went into
liquidation and the dude is basically running around with everybody's
money aren't you, Peto Alvarez. Now, Peto, I know that
this explains a lot, mate, about why you're charging so
much for the why Snoop was like, Hey, it's August,
he's coming in September, buy some expensive tickets. If you

(01:04:49):
dick us around on this, Pato, if we get there
on that Saturday night and there's no Snoop Dog, mate,
you are going to be this drive show's enemy number one.
And I will make it my life's mission to get
my money back from you and everybody else's money back.
So don't cancel the Snoop Dog Tour. I'm so worried
about this. If you've got Snoop tickets, all I want
to say to you is, if you've got Snoop tickets,

(01:05:10):
just make find something else that's happening in Manichow that night,
so you've got a backup plant, because I feel like
Peto is potentially going to let us down anyway. Chris
Bishop Bush's birthday. By the way, it's turned forty two today.
What a fun way to spend your birthday working. He's
with us.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Next, It's where Business Meets Insight Love.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
A Business Hour with Heather dup c Allen and Mays
for trust at Home Insurance Solutions.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
News Talk said b even in coming up in the
next hour, Jamie McKay on Mike Joy the water guy's
hanging comments, Sam Dickey on why September is making the
investors nervous and we have ended Brady doing the UK
for us. It's coming up eight past six now. There's
a bit of disagreement within the coalition. David Seymour has
criticized Auckland's housing density plan, which makes it possible to

(01:05:57):
build up to two million homes in the city and
he's issuring the Housing Minister and the council Auckland Council
to rethink it. Housing Minister Chris Bishop is with us.

Speaker 9 (01:06:05):
High bish, gooday start.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 21 (01:06:09):
Oh thank you very much. I hear Azario did a
little happy birthday thing for me.

Speaker 9 (01:06:12):
That was very nice.

Speaker 14 (01:06:13):
Have you heard it.

Speaker 9 (01:06:15):
I have heard it, Yes, it's been sent to me.
It's very kind.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Let's all have listen. Let's all ever listen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
The Honorable Chris Bishop.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
I don't think she hasn't got a future in music recording.

Speaker 21 (01:06:28):
A probably not featuring little old Jerry Brownley. There it's
got a little cameo your former boss.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Now listen, are you prepared to budge on this?

Speaker 21 (01:06:39):
Well, Parliament's hold Auckland Council to go and redo its plan.
And in fact, the reason Parliament's done that is because
Auckland Council wanted us to. They wrote to me around
a year ago and said, listen, we want to opt
out of the m d R s. Actually we campaigned
on that, so that's fine, so did act so to
national so that's all fine, and so we've given effect
to their wishes. And they also said, look, we need
to down zone around the flood is where you know,

(01:07:00):
post the floods, there's been a whole lot of new mapping,
so that's all good.

Speaker 9 (01:07:03):
So we said that's fine.

Speaker 21 (01:07:04):
And then we said, okay, but look, if you're going
to redo the plan, you've got to do more density
around the train stations, particularly the city railing stations, where
we're spending thick in to six billion bucks and the
council is up for that. So Parliament's legislated the plan
and now it's over to the council and they have
choices around where they where they.

Speaker 9 (01:07:21):
Grow, but they've got to grow.

Speaker 21 (01:07:23):
That's the sort of take home point you know, Aukland's
got to allow more housing, but they've got choices around
how they do that. They can do medium density, they
can do more apartments, they can do more terraced housing,
and they can do more green fields too.

Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Is it not a dumb idea though from them to
chuck up multi story apartment buildings on pipes and roads
that can't handle the extra load.

Speaker 9 (01:07:41):
Well, they just they won't be built.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
Right.

Speaker 21 (01:07:43):
So that's the point is that this is a plan
for the long term. It's not a next year type plan.
It's a thirty year plan. So you know, as an
apartment building is it might be zoned, you know, it
might be the capacity might be there in a zoning sense. Right,
you can go and build an apartment, but if the
infrastructure can't cope, then it doesn't get built because you
can't build an apartment.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Yes, but is there is there a kind of a
proviso that if you do chuck up this multi story building,
is there an obligation to then fix the pipes underneath
it to make sure it can handle.

Speaker 21 (01:08:09):
Well's there's a sequencing issue right with between water Care
and the council and some of the other enabling infrastructure
that's required for that stuff. So the point would be
that over time, as the infrastructure goes in and water
Care has got huge plans and we just let them
borrow more money and give them a huge amount of
more debt, headroom and stuff which I won't go into.
But water Cares got very in essential Intercept has just opened.

(01:08:29):
So there's a huge amount of more storm water and
waste water capacity coming into Auckland. But it's not all
going to happen immediately. There's a long term plan for
water Care over many years and as the infrastructure gets built,
the housing capacity is there and then the houses can
get built as well.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
So it does, But does it necessarily go that the
infrastructure must go first then the houses, Well, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:08:52):
Because you can't.

Speaker 21 (01:08:53):
You can't build an apartment that can't connect into waste
and storm water that isn't there. You know, it's a
sequencing of the coordination now and as I say, this
is a lot thing, it's a thirty year.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Think what about the allegation that David Cymore has made
that allcland Council is making it hard to find this
detail online.

Speaker 9 (01:09:08):
Well, he probably is right about that.

Speaker 21 (01:09:10):
I mean, it's a I think in the council's defense
without you know, I'm not here to defend the council.
But they put up the plans as a draft to
consult with the local boards and everybody else. But there's
formal consultation coming. This is like a draft of a draft, right,
So it's a draft of a draft. There's an actual
draft that will go out formally for consultation in September,
and then there'll be public consultation on that, and there'll

(01:09:31):
be hearings that people will be allowed to turn up
to and have their say and say, look, I don't
like this in my suburban this, you know this particular
streets and appropriate for this, and you know, there'll be
a bunch of experts will sit around and decide whether
or not that's legitimate or not. That's all going to
happen next year. So I suppose my point for people
listening is we're right at the start of the process.
People just need to tie home a bit. We're right

(01:09:52):
at the start of the process. It's a draft of
a draft, and people should engage and talk to the
councilors and talk to their local board representatives and engage
on what it all means. But Auckland's got choices, you know,
the council and the Council laws have choices around where
it grows.

Speaker 9 (01:10:06):
But they've got to grow, you know that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
I mean, it's going to come down to nimbism, isn't it.
Because nobody actually in a villa wants to have a
five to ten fifteen story apartment go up next door
and cast a massive shadow over you. That's what it's
ultimately going to be one or lost on.

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
Well, that that's some There are rules around that.

Speaker 21 (01:10:23):
There are rules around shade and height to boundary ratios
and set back rules and all of that stuff that
the Council can and is setting.

Speaker 9 (01:10:29):
So I don't think people should get.

Speaker 21 (01:10:30):
Super alarmed about that, but but I understand that, I
understand the concern of some people.

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
People want to protect the character.

Speaker 21 (01:10:37):
Actually, the special Character Provisions and the new Draft Plan
are a four point five six percent reduction on the
PC seventy eight plan change seventy eight, which the Council
was having to do, you know, three or four years ago.
So this but there's a very more reduction. I'll accept
it's a reduction, but it's only four and a half
five percent, And actually you'd be surprised. I've had emails

(01:10:57):
from people who live in these villas in Auckland saying
this is really great. This is a great plan because ultimately,
I want my kids to have affordable housing. I want
to be able to see my kids and my grandkids,
and I want people to be able to live with
You don't believe me now, I've had emails about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
You want to send us one redact the name and
send it to me.

Speaker 9 (01:11:16):
I can.

Speaker 21 (01:11:16):
I can happy to do that, and it's also fair
to say, and I will be completely honest. I've had
emails the other way from people saying, you know, leave yourship,
don't like you. But but and I recognize it's a
controversial debate, and I totally understand where people are coming from.

Speaker 9 (01:11:32):
I don't. I don't want to sound unsympathetic to any
of that stuff.

Speaker 21 (01:11:35):
But there's a there's a pathway through here, and ultimately
it's over to Auckland. They have choices around how and
where they grow.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Okay, right, first of all, you're going to send me that,
then the redacted email, and then the second thing is
what are you doing for your birthday?

Speaker 21 (01:11:50):
I I'm actually in Auckland and I'm going out to
dinner with the Public Transport Association of New Zealand. I'm
having a ministerial dinner form with them. Oh it's very exciting.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
Good on you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Happy birthday, Chris Bishop, National Party Housing Minister. It's actually
incidentally my birthday very shortly. So it would it would
appear that myself. I find that myself and Chris Bishop
have more and more in common as time goes on.
Not only do we both September babies. Yeah, don't just
work backwards nine months, it'll explain everything. But also we

(01:12:24):
love the Don McGlashan, who probably hates both of us. Now,
this is the bloody last thing that Fletcher Building needs
I would have thought. But it appears possible that the
fire doors that they have installed at the convention center,
the Sky City Convention Center, may have asbestos contamination in them.
And that's because the people who make the doors, Pacific
Door Systems, are currently at the center of the asbestos scare,
after some contamination was found in some of the doors.

(01:12:46):
So what they now need to do is they need
to go and check if it's in the doors at
the Sky City Convention Center. They will be pleading with
God that it's not in those doors, because frankly, they
do not need anything else to go wrong with that place.
After the guy left the blow torch on the ground,
do they quarter past?

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
It's the Heather Duplicy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on
my Heart Radio powered by Newstogs EBB. Whether it's Macro
microbe or just playing economics, it's all on the Business
Hours with Heather Duplicy Allen and maz for Trusted Home
Insurance Solutions, News Dogsbhither.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
It's just plain nimbiasm or to be blunt house prices? Well, look,
yes it is until you're the one who spent two
and a half million dollars for your villa and you're
sitting there and then you lose all of your shade
in the winter, all of your son, sorry in the winter,
and your view of whatever Mount Eden or whatever. You'd
be fair spitting tax about that, wouldn't you as well?
Six eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
The Rural Report on Heather Duplicy Allen Drive.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Jamie mcpie hosts of the Countries with Thatslo Jamie.

Speaker 10 (01:13:51):
Hello, that is your flash Ponsonbi villa with the swimming
pool going to be shaved.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Nap not at all, not checked it out. I'm on
single single story. Actually, thanks very much for us. But
comes to the downside Atney, I was worried for a moment.
It comes to it's because it's special character. But that
means I can't just change the windows or you know,
like put up a fence, like I can't do anything,
but nobody else can as well, so you know, swings
and roundabouts now, Mike Joy, it seems to me Mike

(01:14:16):
Joy did not want to have to say he's sorry,
but was forced to say he's sorry by Victoria University
of Wellington.

Speaker 10 (01:14:21):
What do you think, Well, I think it's what you
call a slap over the wrist with a very wet
bus ticket from Victoria University. And I see the feeds
have just put out a press release demanding a meeting
with Vice Chancellor Nick Smith, who also apologized. He said
the university had a proud tradition of activism, lawful protest

(01:14:42):
and freedom of expression, but Mike.

Speaker 6 (01:14:44):
Joy went too far, and he did go too far.

Speaker 10 (01:14:46):
It was a stupid comment from a bloke who's got
a dubious reputation, to say the least. With the farming communities,
suggesting or likening dairy farmers and dairy farm executives to
Dean who was famous, of course for killing children in
the eighteen nineties, and he's claiming that dairy farmers and

(01:15:09):
by association, the chief executives are.

Speaker 6 (01:15:12):
Doing the same. It was a really poor choice of words.

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
He yesterday he said the comments were tongue in cheek
and he was happy the way he had phrased it,
or comfortable the way he had phrased it. By this morning,
he'd taken to LinkedIn to apologize, saying his words weren't
wise or whatever, but of a hollow apology.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
If you ask me, what's your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
I mean, should he have to lose his job over this?

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:15:39):
No, To be fair, look, professionally, I haven't really got
much time for the bloke, but I've met him in
a social setting. He's been in my studio in Dunedin,
and I don't hold anything against him as a person,
but I just think he's he's well, no, he is
an activist, that's the word for it, and I think
this was extreme activism and just poorly chosen.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
I don't think he'll lose his I know he won't
lose his job over this.

Speaker 10 (01:16:05):
Victoria University have only given a half hour sort of
apology themselves, so I no doubt they'll meet with the
FEDS and they'll sort something out. But should he lose
his job over one comment?

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
No, Yeah, I got in mind book. Hey listen, is
buttergate going to die in natural death?

Speaker 6 (01:16:23):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
It might because the Global Dairy Trade auction. I was
going to mention this to you on Tuesday. Actually I
didn't get a chance to because the futures market was
picking two or three percent drop and the end we
got four point three across the board.

Speaker 6 (01:16:35):
Whole milk powder, the most important.

Speaker 10 (01:16:37):
Ingredient, was down five point three, skim milk even worse
five point eight. So this is quite a big drop,
not unusual at this time of the year when the
volumes start to ramp up on the Global Dairy Trade auction.
Butter incidentally fould less than whole milk powder and skim
milk powder down two point five percent. But I did
speak to one dairy farm or your dairy industry executive,

(01:17:02):
one of the ones that Mike Joy wanted to do
bad things too, probably, and he did say to me,
he said to me a month or so ago. The
season's going to start strong, but it could get sticky
in the second half of the season. I hope he's wrong,
and I hope the ten bucks or the ten dollars
fifteen that Fonterra's currently forecasting can hang in there. But

(01:17:22):
we do live in a trouble world. You only need
to look at what's happening or been happening in Beijing
in recent days to see that. So he's hoping the
dairy price can hang in there. Maybe there could be
some relief at the supermarket counter with a drop in
the price and butter.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Yeah, maybe, Jamie, Thanks very much. We'll talk to you
again next week. Look after yourself, Jomie McKay, host of
the Country. A little bit of good news for you.
Remember how Balance, the people who make the fertilizer, said
that they may have to shut down in September because
they didn't have any gas. They have managed to secure
a short term gas supply for the Carpuni plant. It
means that they can continue operating until December thirty one,

(01:17:58):
so basically the end of the year. Thus still looking
for both short and long term affordable gas supply agreements.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Six Everything from SMS to the Big Corporates The Business
Hour with Heather duplessy Ellen and Maz for Trusted Home
Insurance Solutions News talks'b.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
So apparently Sam Dicky reckons that September is always a
bit of an average month for the equity markets, and
it's making people feel a bit nervous at the moment.
So he'll talk us through that when he's with us
in about fifteen minutes time. Right now, it's six twenty five.
Now here's your show biz news for you, Lady Gaga.
I wouldn't have guessed it was Lady Gaga. Sam reckons

(01:18:38):
that you you'd listen to it and just be like, yeah,
you know that Sam's our local print. Sam's the guy
on the show who knows everything that you need to
know about being a young person, like how to open
a nang bottle, and also that this is Lady Gaga anyway.
So she's back with a song. This is the new one.
It's called the Dead Dance and the song is not
connected to an album, but it's instead for the Wednesday

(01:18:59):
Show on Netflix. That's the series about Wednesday Adams from
the Adams Family. And by the way, did you know
that the show Wednesday is the most popular show Netflix
has ever released, and this is how Lady Gaga got involved.
So in the first season, Wednesday does a little dance
in one of her episodes, and then people on TikTok
started recreating the dance to one of Lady Gaga's old songs,
Bloody Mary, and this caught the attention of Gaga, who

(01:19:20):
was then asked to appear in the video in the
Ossorry in the second season, which has just come out,
and she said yes.

Speaker 22 (01:19:25):
I had a wonderful time working on Wednesday season to
even just being a small part of the show. I
loved working with Tim Burton and Jenna and everyone here
is so incredible. I hope you're really comfortable in your
caskets and I can't wait to see.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
You do the dad down.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
The new video that's come out with the songs directed
by Tim Burton, and in the video, Gaga is surrounded
by creepy dolls obviously because it's Tim Burton, and has
her skin flaking off like porcelain once again Tim Burton,
and she's doing some choreography that's already all over TikTok
because they love it. Heather Chris Bishop would be a
little bit younger than you, though, Mate, you need to

(01:20:05):
be careful with things like that. He's not he's in
fact one year older than me, so he's compared to
me basically a granddad. Hither the nurse has better not
strike later this month again, I'm due for surgery on
the twenty fifth, and I've already been bumped and bumped
and bumped. If I get bumped for this, Christ, I
don't know what I'll do. It's a major operation on
my back. Go back to bloody work. Exclamation mark. Yeah,

(01:20:26):
I think a fair few people might feel like that.
All right, News Us next, and then Sam Dicky's with us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.
The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Ellen and Mas for
Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
He'd be god a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Surver and de Brady's going to be with us in
ten minutes time. Also, oh yeah, but just come through
with the email, so stand by for that. KMD Brands,
by the way, this is the guys who owned Catmandu
and Ripcurl, and those guys is planning a major shakeup
to try to turn the business around. So they're going
to find a minimum of twenty five million dollars in

(01:21:18):
cost savings. They'll have an organizational restructure which they reckon.
They've already started, and they're going to close twenty one stores.
They've got three hundred globally, so it's not a lot,
but they're closing twenty one stores twenty five away from seven. Now,
equity markets are making investors very nervous this September. Markets
are softening a bit, which is remarkably, remarkably regular, regular
occurrence actually in September, and Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds

(01:21:40):
is with us a Sam.

Speaker 23 (01:21:41):
Hey have that, So what goes on in September, it
is quite astonishing. So if you go back sort of
twenty thirty or even one hundred years, September is by
far the weakest month in the US equity market. In fact,
over the last one hundred years, it is the only
month that is on average negative and the reasons are
actually pretty benign. So Northern Hemisphere money managers, so July

(01:22:03):
is the by far the strongest month of the year
on average. So when they go away on holiday, liquidity
drives up a bit and stop markets typically squeeze a
bit higher, and they come back from the summer break,
all refreshed and look to clean up their portfolios. And
many of these guys have September year end, so they
clean out losers from their portfolio to tiding them up
make them look good at September year end, driving down

(01:22:24):
stop prices, and part of it's probably self fulfilling, which
which seems silly, but investors sell to try and get
ahead of the September swoon, which brings on the September swoon.
But this year's weakness isn't just about this calendar superstition.
There are there are some real risks brewing that have
investors a little concerned, like what, well, first intimate is elevated.

(01:22:46):
So remember a few short months ago you and I
were talking about fear being the highest in twenty five years.
Now the market is quite exuberant, which worries professional investors.
So that's why number two is markets are headler line expensive.
So the price to earnings multiple the PE ratio is
twenty two times earnings, which is pretty much the highest

(01:23:07):
level in quarter of a century. And the next six
months should be tougher economically as the rubber meets the
road on inflation and growth from tariff so Home Depot
put it most succinctly last week, It, like many other
US companies, have been been swallowing, been eating the tariff
costs in pots, imposts and their profit and loss statements

(01:23:30):
to date as they wait and see where terifs will land.
But the Home Depot said they'll look to pass on
these cost increases to consumers in the second half, which
will lift inflation and truncate growth. And of course, the
AI bubble is looking pretty inflated right now, and the
enthusiasm for AI stocks is just not being matched by reality.
It's not being matched by the revenue use cases from

(01:23:54):
real world use cases.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
So what does this all mean for investors?

Speaker 9 (01:23:59):
I think these a valid concerns.

Speaker 23 (01:24:01):
Not the September swimming, by the way, not that superstitious thing,
but I think these are valid concerns, especially given how
far the market has moved a couple of caviates. So
the first one is unlike in late twenty twenty one,
twenty twenty two when we last saw that sort of
headline p multiple up at that twenty two times and

(01:24:21):
we saw a big pullback of markets. The US Federal Reserve,
the FED has a ton of firepower this time to
cut rates of the economy soften. So remember back then
the Federal Reserve benchmark rate, which it.

Speaker 9 (01:24:32):
Uses to.

Speaker 23 (01:24:35):
Stoke or slow down the economy was already near zero's
whereas today it's at four and a half percent, So
tons of room to cut rates to cushing any economic weakness.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Yeah, brilliant stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
It's good to talk to you, it always is. We
took you in a week's time, Sam Dickey Official Funds.
That's coming up twenty one away from seven. Ever do
so this is so Bush came through immediately and was like,
here you go. Here's an email name redacted killed a Chris.
I've lived in Mound for seven years. I care deeply
about the character and the liveability of this community. Mount

(01:25:05):
Eden is exceptionally well located close to the city center
and the rail network, restricting housing density, and such a
prime location forces young people and families further out. So
I urge you, remember this is from somebody who is
presumably you'd think in a villa, I don't know, maybe
in Mount Eden. I urge you to number one, remove
the special Character Area overlay in Mount Eden to unlock

(01:25:26):
housing capacity. Number two, focus intensification in areas with excellent
transport links and proximity to the city. Number three support
young people and families to live closer to where they
work and study, rather than forcing them to the outer suburbs.
All of which so Besi's right, he's getting some support.
I will say, though I would I would hazard a

(01:25:47):
guess that emails like that are not as frequent as
the emails from people who are freaking out about it.
What do you think, I mean? You know you've heard
there's town halls enyre fill. So we'll keep an eye
on that. We'll see how this one goes. Now on
the concerts, so speaking about the Snoop Dogg concert earlier,
and we're is absolutely gagging to go see Snoop Dogg
has been missed by Oasis, Lady Gagar and Kendrick Lamar

(01:26:11):
and all of these people who have played in Australia
but not in Auckland anyway. Live Nation has given an
insight today as to why we haven't been getting these
big acts to play here in New Zealand. The Boss,
Mark Kneebone was speaking at an events industry conference that's
been happening this week in Hamilton, and he said part
of The problem is actually that the artists want to
do the big shows right so that they can do

(01:26:31):
fewer stops. So it suits them better to do one
gigantic show or several gigantic shows. And let's say Melbourn's
they go to Melbourne, they do maybe three shows, is
kind of what Tat did. That is better than having
to go Melbourne, Sydney, Auckland, do you know what I mean?
Or across the ditchit door because they know we're going
to come over there. The second thing is that the
dollar doesn't help, and he said having a dollar that

(01:26:52):
buys fifty nine cents at the moment is like starting
every offer on the back foot. And also he said
fright is becoming increasingly problem more so than in the
old days because the shows think coldplay here right, shows
are becoming more complex, they're becoming bigger, they're becoming really
technological like coldplays one with all the gear that I mean,
they must have shipped over so much gear just to

(01:27:13):
make that thing work, and so therefore it adds heaps
and heaps of costs to the shipping. So it's better
just go to one place, park up for a week
while and then move on and have us come to them.
Neebone said that there's a ten to fifteen percent cost
increase in putting on a show in New Zealand as
opposed to Australia. But having said all of that, he
is still optimistic because he reckons we are just thirsty
for concerts over here, so they're still value in bringing

(01:27:35):
the concerts down here. So fingers crossed by the way. Actually,
speaking of things that are coming and whatnot, there's a
new movie coming out that I think you should know
about because you've already had one. I mean yeah, but
now you're going to get their new installment and it
has some stars in it. It's Wuthering Heights, I know,
Wathering Heights. Have you got the Capeoss song in your head?

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:27:54):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:27:55):
You do?

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
That one? So strange, isn't she? Anyway? Heath clipping Kathy
again are going to be played by Marco, Robbie and Jacob.
I don't know how to pronounce his name, Elaudie. You know,
the hot one from well some say hot, some say
exceptionally creepy from Saltburn. You know, he's the one. He's
the one. He's the one in the bathtub, you know,

(01:28:21):
not the one that's in the bathtub at the end
of the bathtub, but the one who's actually having the
bath at the outset. Anyway, the movie is being directed
by the director of Saltburn, and if you've seen Saltburn,
then you know there's all kinds of weird places that
this movie can go. And the trailer came out today
and here's a bit. Can you hear that? Far there
we go?

Speaker 12 (01:28:39):
I can follow you, I could talk to the end
of the world.

Speaker 11 (01:28:43):
Fall in love?

Speaker 7 (01:28:44):
You want me to stop?

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Oh lord, it sounds like Wuthering Heights has gone a
pawn on us. Anyway, Now you're booking your tickets, aren't. Yeah,
seventeen away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Crosing the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
It's hither to the Sea, Ellen with the Business Hour
and mes for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Talk said, be.

Speaker 16 (01:29:10):
With us now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
It's fourteen aware from seven and with us now is
in the brady Are UK correspondent.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
Hello, Lida, Hey, Heather, good to speak to you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Right, is Angela raina dog taka?

Speaker 24 (01:29:20):
She's clinging on. She's clinging on now. The problem here
is that she's spent one point six million dollars on
a seaside apartment in Hove on the South Coast. No
problem with that, but the rules are that if it's
your second home you have to pay a lot of
extra money in stamp duty. This property purchased tax that
we have here. On the face of it, it looks

(01:29:43):
like she's been very poorly advised by a lawyer. She
says that, so the figure we're talking about is eighty
thousand dollars extra in tax in stamp duty. So she
has come out and the papers have been all over this,
to've been following this story for weeks and weeks and weeks.
She says that she was given advice that she didn't
have to pay it. There is a family property in

(01:30:03):
the Manchester area that she initially had down as her
main home. Even though she's most in London and lives
in a Grace and Favor flat from the UK Government
near Downing Streets. It's not looking good for her. She's
now got secondary advice from presumably a better lawyer who
has said to her that you know what, you should
have paid that eighty k. So now she's referred herself

(01:30:25):
to the government watchdog and she awaits her fate. But
the rules are the rules. I feel sorry for She
has a disabled son and it's a very complicated living
arrangement in the Manchester property. But I think ultimately she's
also housing secretary and this does not look good.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Tell me what this book says about William and the
Scottish referind them.

Speaker 6 (01:30:47):
Yes.

Speaker 24 (01:30:47):
So this is a guy called Valentine Lowe, a very
respected royal commentator and journalist. And there's a little snippet
in this book which is being serialized in the papers
this week, that if we go back to the Scottish
independence referenced them of eleven years ago. He has got
info that it was William who leaned on his grandmother
to get involved and make some sort of a public pronouncement. Now,

(01:31:10):
the monarch here cannot be political, but there was an
incident and I thought it was very strange at the time.
The Queen went to church in Scotland and she stopped
and she spoke to members of the public and she
was heard to say, I hope the people of Scotland
think very carefully about this, and off she walked. And
of course people talk, journalists listen, and it ends up

(01:31:33):
in the newspapers, and that was all prompted by the
polling at the time the previous weekend putting the Yes
for Independence for Scotland campaign ahead of No and remaining
in the UK. And of course then a week later
Scotland went out and voted fifty five percent in favor
of staying in.

Speaker 9 (01:31:52):
The United Kingdom.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
So why is William so interested in it?

Speaker 24 (01:31:56):
Well, he didn't want to see the UK break up,
and I think you know, he's not stupid. He was
what thirty two at the time. I don't think he
wanted to be a future king of the United Kingdom
of England, Wales and a bit of Ireland. Scotland is very,
very important, and William clearly felt she needs to be
aware that this is the way it's going. The Yes

(01:32:17):
campaign is winning and the only person that anyone will
listen to on this with reason is Her Majesty the Queen,
his grandmother.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Hey, so, how does Nigel for Azrick and you guys
have become North Korea?

Speaker 9 (01:32:30):
This is a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:32:31):
So I watched this.

Speaker 24 (01:32:32):
He gave his address and he was questioned at the
US Congress. They're looking at online safety. He turned up
wearing a pin badge from the news channel here The
right wing news channel that he sometimes appears on. It
was all very odd, but Nigel Faras said that we've
got situations like the Lucy Connolly case. So she was
a woman who posted on social media urging people to

(01:32:55):
burn down asylum hotels. She subsequently deleted it, but she
ended up up getting put before the courts, convicted and
she spent over a year in prison. And then he
highlighted the case of Graham Linehan, the Irish guy who's
a comedy writer who put out some anti trans tweets
earlier this year. He was nick the Heathrow yesterday by
five armed police officer. So Foras reckons that the UK

(01:33:18):
is no longer a bastion of free speech. For anyone
who kind of wants to investigate this further turn on
his news channel and then we are not North Korea
just yet by any stretch of course.

Speaker 9 (01:33:32):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Inda, Thank you very much, appreciate it. In the Brady
UK correspondent, Hey get a load of this. Obviously, lots
of people are going to be thinking about moving away
from guests and stuff. Gives how much it costs you
to turn the guests off? I'm not talking about this
is by the way. I'm not talking about replacing the heater,
replacing the guest of you know, blah blah, the avon whatever,
just to turn it off. One customer business customer was

(01:33:55):
told it would cost seven and a half thousand dollars
to disconnect the because because because you can't just stop
the gas, right, you can't just turn it off and
leave it at that. If you just if you just
that's that's called disconnecting. If you just disconnect the gas company.
Can can you continue to charge you a daily charge
for using gas even though you're not using gas? It's disconnected.

(01:34:16):
You have to decommission the gas. And when you decommission it,
boy do they go hard on you.

Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Should we do a book review next? I mean, lord,
I know you're like, why it's radio news. No, I'm
not radio, it's not Radio New Zealand. But I think
I think it's time for a book review. Let's do one.
Nine away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
It's the Heather too for see Allen Drive Full Show
podcast on iHeartRadio powered by newstalg ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
Okay, here we go, six away from seven. So I
told you I was reading the book by Sophie Maloney's
husband Sophie being the SkyTV CEO, and the pattern here
is it's the second book by a CEO spouse that
I've read. This one is by is by Sophie's husband Will.
It's called what Do You Do All Day? And If
You Are? I feel like it's going to really appeal

(01:35:05):
to mums, mums who feel like they do everything around
the house and are like completely unappreciated by people. I
feel like this is that is the target audience because
it's the story basically of a woman who is quite
clearly a lot smarter than her husband before they get married.
You know, they're having these brilliant careers and stuff, and
then they get married and then somehow she finds herself

(01:35:28):
being the one who just falls into raising the kids
and tidying up the house. And they're not poor like
the Living Roomy where it's set in New Zealand, obviously
the living Roomy where they've got all the flash stuff.
They've got a big house, big car, fancy life. He's
a banker and stuff, but he totally takes her for granted,
like and just forgets that she is a woman with

(01:35:49):
agency who might actually want to have a life of
her own and he just expects her to tidy up
his life. So he'll just walk through the room getting
undressed and sort of leave all his gear lying all
over and she's got to like pick it up and stuff.
My favorite bit, my favorite bit about it, I do
recommend it's quite like in a way, it's really sad
actually in a way when you think about it. But
Will is a brilliant writer. H's some funny, laugh out

(01:36:10):
loud stuff and if you like modern music, you're really
going to enjoy the fact the soundtrack to this is brilliant.
And he's actually got little QR codes. You can scan
them at the start of the chapter and get the
playlist for each chapter. It's great stuff, Block Party, Missy Elliott,
all the nineties, you know, nineties bangers and stuff. Anyway,
my favorite part of the book is how the wife
niggles him without him realizing it. So he asks her

(01:36:32):
to go to Pharaoh because they shop at Pharaoh because
they've got money. As he asks her to go to
Pharaoh and buy the gym supplement powder crap that you
buy that's like, you know, to shreds so he can
look really muscly, like skinny and stuff. So she buys
him the stuff to bulk up, which is the opposite
of what he wants, and he wheez on the toilet
seat because he's a man, so he does a wee
weee on the toilet seat. But then he doesn't tidy up,

(01:36:52):
so she takes his towel and wipes up the Wii Wei,
And later on, when he's really boozed and wheeze all
over the ground, she takes his towel, swipes it all up,
hangs the towel back up. Quite enjoyed that, thought that
that was quite a nice little niggle. Anyway, go and
read that if you feel like, if you just feel
like you need a little bit of solidarnosque from another woman.
I don't know where the Russian came from, Libby.

Speaker 24 (01:37:14):
Have you read Wathering Heights?

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:37:17):
Have you?

Speaker 7 (01:37:17):
I have?

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
And I actually had to look up if it ended
the way that I remembered it and did it because
it's coming out on Valentine's Day.

Speaker 18 (01:37:25):
Oh, it's not what I would have picked for the.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
Oh no, you've already told me somebody dies. I didn't
say that. Well, they're obvious from what you just said.

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
Oh no, I didn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Okay, I'll have to read it now after I read
Grant Robertson's book, of course. Yes, what have you got
for us? I've got Wathering Heights obviously. By the way, everybody,
this is Libby who's filling in for Ant's answers, going
on holiday. He's got how long he's ants gone away for?
It's like five weeks, it's a solid month. He's gone
for a long time. He's going to come back with
a beard and a tan. So Libby's in charge, and

(01:37:55):
go on, let me boost it and we'll see tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Dateline NBC

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Full Show Podcast: 04 September 2025

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Dateline NBC

All Episodes

Full Show Podcast: 04 September 2025

NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal