Full Show Podcast: 05 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Digging through the spin spins to find the real story.
Oring It's Heather two for Clan Drive with one New
Zealand Let's get connected News DOGSV.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Afternoon. Erica wants AI to mark the new exams. The
union on that Aura, which is the retail crime tool,
is so good it's actually overwhelming the police. We'll have
a speak a chat to the cops about it. And
the man running for mayor in two places at once
under different names Heather D. P.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
C Ellen.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
So what does it say about our priorities that we've
just put millions of dollars of taxpayer money into funding
two reality TV shows but nothing into funding the Netball?
I mean, surely the Netball is more worthy than Celebrity
Treasure Island or the Traitors, isn't it? And yet ends
it on air. Has pumped two point eight million dollars
into funding Trash TV, on top of two point five
million dollars into funding Shortland Street, on top of two

(00:54):
hundred thousand dollars into funding the Chloe Swarbrick documentary, on
top of eight hundred thousand dollars into funding the Jasinda
Earned movie That Fallover, And the list goes on Netball,
though the screening of which would surely encourage young people
into moving their bodies and getting themselves more healthy and
getting off the couch. Netball has had to pay TVNZ
to put it on the tally now. To be fair,

(01:15):
netball doesn't qualify for New Zealand on air funding because
it is a sport, and sport up to now at
least has been considered commercially successful and so it doesn't
require taxpayer help. But I would argue that is everything
that is wrong without funding system right there. I don't
think we should be putting money into things that aren't
commercially successful. I think we should be putting money if
we put money into TV at all, and that's a

(01:37):
debate we should have. If we're going to put money
into anything, we should be putting it into things that
are commercially successful, or at least can be commercially successful
into the future, like the hopes are for netball. Celebrity
Treasure Island will never make money again. Probably traders will
be lucky to survive whatever it is that happens to
TV three post the sale. Shorty Street will never be
commercially successful ever. Again. I would bet we actually don't

(01:59):
need this stuff on Telly. That's what they'll tell you.
They say, Oh, I got to see Kiwi faces on Telly.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
No you don't.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
You don't need to see Kiwi faces and Kiwi stories
on the big screen or the small screen when you
have your phone screen. If you want to see Keiwi stories,
you want to see Keiwi accents. You want to see
some Kiwi humor, dial up Thomas Sainsbury on your Facebook feed,
have a look at memoirs of Amori doing her comedy,
ORed Joe Daimond, or even Kate Hawksby's Instagram. I mean,
I think we should stop funding shows that fewer and

(02:25):
fewer people are watching and start looking at what people
are actually doing on their phones. New Zealanders broke it,
well broke if we can't afford to build a proper
hospital for Duned and we cannot seriously be able to
fund trash TV heather doopers. The Alum nine two nine
two is the text number standard text fees apply now.
The Government as pushing ahead with the modern equivalent of

(02:47):
the Foreshore and Seabed legislation. The Marine and Coastal Area
Bill is expected to pass by the end of October.
It's going to override a Court of Appeal decision from
a couple of years ago that made the test for
customary marine titles just simply too easy. Just as Minister
Paul Goldsmith as a man working on this, and he's
with us, Hey, Paul, oh, hi, Heather, why are you
waiting till October? Why not just get it done now?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Well, we introduced legislation last year to overturn the Court
of Appeal and in the essence, what we're trying to
achieve is a balance between the ability for MARI to
claim customary title while at the same time recognizing that
everybody's got an interest in what goes on in the coastline.
And so Parliament back in the John Key government set

(03:31):
a test, a high test which was had to show
understurb possessions since eighteen forty, went off to the courts
after about ten to fifteen years, and the courts basically
undermined it well, didn't recognize the second clause very much.
And so that's why we brought the legislation and you
were a call that we had it in the House,

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went off to Select Committee, and then the Supreme Court
came out and midway through the process and they overturned
the Court of Appeal and so we've been reflecting as
to whether just to leave it there or to carry
on with The.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Leaders say, why did you decide to carry on?

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, ultimately we want to go further than the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court dealt with some of the issues that
we were concerned about, but not all, and we don't
feel like it went fair enough to get that balance right,
which is to say that, yes, if there's a very
clear case, you can have customer marine title. What does

(04:28):
this mean for the average person. All it means people
who are ev that have customery marine title do have
the ability to basically block resource consents for a bunch
of things that can happen on the coastline. Nobody's affecting
people's ability to swim, fish and do a bunch of things.
But when it comes to new aquaculture, or when it

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comes to renewing a consent for a private jetty, a
whole bunch of things would be affected. And that's why
we had the high test rather than one hundred percent
of the coastline.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
So do you think this is going to blow up
into something? It can to the Treaty Principle's Bill or
just you know quietly.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Well, look, time will tell. I mean, when we were
doing the legislation late last year, you know, there are
obviously people who feel strongly about it, but it was manageable.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
And look, I think.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
All we're trying to achieve is restoring what Parliament thought
was the balance back ten fifteen years ago when we
introduced this legislation, which is to say, yes, you can
go for customer marine title, but you know there's a
reasonable hurdle to get over and that's what we're trying
to establish.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, and do you think it's going to revive this
debate about committee again?

Speaker 4 (05:40):
No, well that's in terms of yes, it's very rare
for Parliament to overturn decisions by the Court of Appeal
and Supreme Court. We don't do it often and we've
thought about it very carefully. But our view is that
the interpretation is vied sufficiently far from what Parliament intended
that we need to make this move.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, now, what did you think about what I said
about netball and trash TV.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, one person's trash is another's treasure.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I suppose since of it, you don't do you like
celebrity Treasure Island.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I'm not saying that.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
I just not.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
No, I don't watch it and that's fair enough and
that's fine. But some people do and look New Zealand
on air. The purpose of it is for New Zealanders
to see New Zealand on air.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
New Zealanders on air.

Speaker 6 (06:29):
It's you.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
It's twenty five. Why don't I tell you what? Why
don't you also start funding New Zealand to send telegraph
messages to each other? And it's old technology. We've used
our phones. Let's just give up on it.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Some do, some don't know. It's still a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Watch kind of government. We're running out, a little bit
of cashy, a little bit.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Of do you know.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
No, it's been for the last thirty years New Zealand
on Air has been helping fund New Zealand. Material doesn't mean,
it doesn't It doesn't worry. It's it's not of concern
whether they were on a TV screen or on their
phone or on their laptop, on a computer or whatever.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
It does a shit job, doesn't it. I mean, what
is it funded that's commercially successful? Look look it over
look it over at Australia they're funding Bluey. The thing
is absolutely going gang dusters around the world. What's New
Zealand on Air got that's going gang dusters around the world.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, there's there's been quite a few things that have
been reasonably successful. Sometimes you're right, that's it's a reasonable challenge.
Well after the Party and a few things like that
went pretty well. But my very clear message to them
has been there was a tendency, you know, in recent
times to focus very much on niche audiences and my

(07:37):
direction as minister, you know, I've got reasonably hands off
because the legislation is quite strong, but I can send
a letter of intentions and my focus is that you
know that they fund things that people want to watch
and that it was of broad interests in New Zealanders
and yep, everybody can. You know, you can watch Netflix
and Apple and you know there's no shortage of entertainment.
But the purpose of New Zealand on the Air is

(07:58):
just to help ensure that for those who want to
there is at least some local material being.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Keeping my eyes on you, Paul Goldsmith this.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Week you keep watching. I'm glad that you're on our
case because watching.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You not not the TV content that the funding which
is the problem. Listen, thank you, I always appreciate you.
That's Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister. Heather, you could always
offer to pay more tax and then you would have
better funding. You know, you don't pay your tax. You
don't get much from the government, do you. Oh yeah,
that's a great idea. Do you know what, here's an idea.
How about we all pay fifty percent tax and then

(08:31):
we can fund everything. Does that sound like a good
idea to you? No, me neither. So take that idea,
put it in the bin. Quarter pass four.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
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Speaker 5 (08:44):
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Speaker 2 (08:46):
Murray Olds is going to be with us in about
half an hour's time. Elbow is getting himself self involved
in the Middle East. Just had a chat to the
leader of the Palestinian Authority. Wants to speak to BB
So standby for that four eighteen.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
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Speaker 2 (09:03):
Darcy Watergrave sports stook coasters with me.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
He does headed at Pluey Allen.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
So how would the state of origin and christ Church work?

Speaker 3 (09:09):
How would it work?

Speaker 7 (09:10):
I don't know. Maybe graham Low can tell us, Sir
graham Lo can tell us, well, I don't agree that
we need a state of origin here in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
It's not ours, right, it's not.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Ours, But why not take it? I mean, look at it, it's.

Speaker 7 (09:22):
The Australian's competition. It's not ours. We're going to go
over there and flog.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
One of the deciders.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
Why not?

Speaker 7 (09:27):
Or they're teamed him to do it. I would go
in a heartbeat. I would love to go and see
the origin here, but I struggle with the fact that
we're removing one of Australia's most iconic sporting events and
putting in our backyard for what I think it'd be
the first time since nineteen eighty seven that State of
Origin has been played outside of Australian.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Let me understand your argument against it is simply it's
theirs leave it alone. Yeah, yeah, because that's how they
roll with us, isn't it far Lap the finn brother?

Speaker 8 (09:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (09:58):
I dig again.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (10:01):
So we're going to claim state of origin as our
own name touring?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
I know, but I mean the sharing between like the
sharing between us of each other's stuff.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
The NRL don't care about New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
They never have.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
They treat us like well, I use the team must
going to be taken off the airways, but they do.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Mugs.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
We are the poor.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Come, I'm just trying to help you out now.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to
say it. We aren't treated well by the NRAL adults.
So they even turn it up and listen to the
Orca and all the other teams that want to try
and get in. Although Peter Velandi's has said to the
Courier Mail, I think it was that there might be
a chance in twenty twenty seven. So so Grahamlowe has
climbed on only going have it in christ Church or

(10:45):
to day christ jurse. Please, We've got a brand new stadium,
but it only fits thirty thousand people. If they're going
to take it off short, surely you'd take an Eden part.
We can jam fifty five thousand people in there. They're
not there the fun and games. They're there to make money.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Truth comes out there, Maitland money. Hey, why' is Lisa
Carrington decided to compete.

Speaker 7 (11:05):
This year after all, well, somebody got sick. There was
an injury in the K four competition, and this is
for the World Champs. You to remember that Carrington has
got eight gold medal. She had a year off. She's
gone on this of the basketball team and one of
her team mates from the gold medal winning K four

(11:27):
five hundred race has taken ill. Olivia Brett is not around,
so in a flash, she's already here. She's there a Milano.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
She's over there, Milan.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
She's going to compete in that, just that one off
race and we'll see what happens. But I wondered is
she going to be is she going to be fit enough?
She would never say yes. She wasn't going to be
the goat in the boat.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
That's right, thank you. Darcy appreciated paddling in a mote.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
Can I carry it?

Speaker 10 (11:53):
No?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
I sha'n't.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I thought about it for a second. I can't look
at the tots. Okay, off you go. Then, Darcy water
Grave Sports Store host, be back at seven o'clock, Lisen,
we're gonna talk about Yeah, we're gonna talk about the
new World Stickers next. So get ready for twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Moving the big stories of the d Orward aw It's
Heather dupic On Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get
connected news talks.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
That'd be yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
The real comment about how about we pay fifty percent tax?
We actually already pay on average sixty percent tax because
you got your paye that'll be what top right, thirty
nine percent plus your GST that's fifteen percent and then
you add your rates on. And that number came from
Brad Olson, So why don't you have a chat to him?
Thank you, Grant, appreciate that very much. Five twenty four.

(12:38):
Now let's talk about the stickers, because it's happened again,
hasn't it? New World has done it again. I want
I warned you, all right, don't tell me I didn't
warn you, because I did. I said, you collect those
stickers at your peril, because there you are. You're going
to have collected all of the stickers, the forty five
stickers for the cast iron braiser, and you're going to

(12:58):
be ready to walk on and going collector. You have
your little sixty dollars in your hand, You got forty
five stickers are taking your bloody months to collect, and
your sixty dollars that you've been you've been stashing away
and your little money jar. And then you're going to
get it because it is that is that is, that
is the one that you want to get, the cast
iron braser, and then you go and oh what are surprise?

(13:19):
New Will doesn't have any of them anymore. I've got
a message from Emma, who's had this particular problem. She says,
I'm only shopping for myself, so I will admit It's
taken me a while to gather up my speG stickers,
but now I have enough to secure the snag braser brackets,
the only item I was saving stickers for. I'm informed
by several stores that they're not expecting any further deliveries.

(13:39):
I've contacted Auklan, New World's, Estridge, lun af Albany and
Brown's Bay and two New Worlds and fung Rda, and
all of them say the same thing. No stock and
they're not expecting further deliveries. Unacceptable, she says in capital letters.
They play this out of stock card every single time.
It's interesting that on a week when they've had appalling
publicity about their tree in a former vic Park store staff,

(14:01):
they're skirting more bad news with this idiocy. Dicks from
Emma off cint Halias. Now I mean obviously, Emma lives
in Saint Halius. You can probably afford to just go
buy one retail. But it's not the point. That's beside
the point, that's beside the point. New World, this is
not good enough. They did the same thing. Do you
remember they did the same thing with the Spiegelaile glass
were promotion in twenty nineteen ran out. Then we had
the Smeg Knives in twenty twenty one, ran out, then

(14:24):
we had this the Master Chef cookware in twenty twenty
three ran out, and now this I'm starting. And this,
by the way, we have until the end of the
month still to get our forty five stickers and sixty
dollars Brasier Brazier. So I'm feeling like, if they're running
out three weeks before the end, they are doing this deliberately.
I'm not impressed with them at all. I did warn
you about that anyway. So we've asked New World to come,

(14:46):
haven't we. We've asked New All to come on the show,
haven't we, Laura? And what did they say, Oh, no
one's available today. Well, they are available. They just don't
want to feel the wrath of the nation about them
having us on again about this thing. I'm okay with
them not being available if they're literally going out there
right now to go and secure brazers for everybody, so
they could call us up tomorrow and go, we've got

(15:06):
the braisers for Emma and everybody. And this is what
they should do. Every single person who's got forty five
stickers and sixty dollars, they should honor it, because I've
had a guts full of this crap. Actually I'm not,
I'm not. I don't think this is funny anymore to
be pulling our legs like this. We've got. Instead, we
were like, you know what, John Duffy from Consumer, do
you want to come on and just have a free
hit on new At He said, absolute, I'd love that,

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So he's gonna be a US quarter past five News.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Is next, recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.
It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's
get connected news talk sa'd beam does will.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
Line cood so well?

Speaker 11 (15:54):
Castilsy China is Bulls.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Together, the White the Brasier a few weeks ago, and
she loves it. You've got to get an early people.
It's a wee bit small to be honest and brackets.
Cheers Steve, Thank you Steve. Not everybody loves Steve's just
doing the old humble brag. They're like God, I fever, guys,
not everybody loves it. Heather, My in laws gave me
a smega cast iron bras are happy to sell it

(16:18):
to someone who wants it. It's still in its box
and they ain't worth the hype. Well, m of cint
Haalia's might be up for it, so expect a text
coming any minute. Barry Soapa is going to be with
us in ten minutes time, talk us through what's happening
in politics, and got Mary Old standing by on n
CEA it Now. Do you remember yesterday Erica Stanford was
telling us that one of the good things for the
teachers in terms of their workload is that they wouldn't

(16:39):
be required anymore to mark the internal assessments, which you know,
that's a hell of a lot of work for teachers
actually right there, and instead there would be she's going
to instruct NZQA to take over the marking of the
externals and blah blah blah. Well, it turns out she
actually wants AI to mark the new qualification, and apparently
AI already does it. It does it for the NCAEA cocqud,

(17:00):
it exams for literacy and numeracy. It's already doing it,
and apparently it's as good, if not better than human
marketing marking. Now I love it. I can see how
this would work. But I suspect I suspect brace yourself
for people to freak out on this, because all you
need to do is say AI to people and like, oh,
the robots are coming because they don't understand it. So

(17:20):
I suspect this this is gonna. I would not be
surprised if the AI marking the papers is the thing
that cops more heat than anything else. Stand by for that.
But anyway, we'll talk to the Union about it after five,
see how they feel. Twenty three away from five.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
It's the world wires on news dogs. They'd be drive
so over.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
In Australia, the PM Albow has spoken to the Palestinian
leader Mahbuda Bas for the first time since twenty twenty three.
Albow and his Foreign Minister Pennywong, so that committed to
a two state solution.

Speaker 12 (17:46):
Everybody understands that there is a risk there will be
no Palestine left to recognize unless the international community work together.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Texas Democrats have fled the state in order to hold
up a planned by the republic Alican state government to
do some gerrymandering, so the Texas House of Representatives couldn't
hold a vote on the redistricting plan as it couldn't
reach korum as civil arrest warrants have now been issued
for the absentees and Linda Garcia is one of the fugitives.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Our taxes constitution calls for redistricting every ten years based
on the census.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
We are not at the ten year mark.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
We are halfway through the tenure mark.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
And finally we are all steak. A zoo in Denmark
has asked the public to donate unwanted pets to feed
the predators. The Albog Zoo will happily take your chicken,
or your rabbit or your guinea pig and then euthanize
it and then feed it to the links. Horses are
also accepted, as long as the owner provides the correct paperwork.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Muriol's Australia corresponds with us. Now, hey, mus.

Speaker 9 (18:53):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
So what do you make about Albow speaking with Macho
bas Well.

Speaker 9 (18:57):
It's well and truly in keeping what you would expect from,
you know, a left wing prime minister of Australia. Don't
forget the Labor government has said over here that Australian
recognition of Palestine it's not a matter of when, but
f not if, but when I beg your pardon to
put around the other way. So it's going to happen.
But again Albanese and Penny Wong's stressing it'll be done

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on their timeline, not pressured by you know, for example, France, Britain,
Canada all announcing conditional recognition plans. Now, he did speak
overnight with Muhmud Abbas, who was the boss of the
Palestinian Authority as a redoubt from the Prime Minister's office.
Albanzi calling for the immediate entry of as much aid

(19:42):
as could possibly be shoved in there, a permanent cease
fire and the release of all the hostages, something that
of course Muhmud Abbas can't deliver. He's also reinforced that
his support for a two state solution and the pair
will be able to meet next month Heather at the
United Nations gener Assembly. This is very much a moving,

(20:02):
moving feast over here for the government, as I said,
And it's not a matter of it's a matter of
when not if that Australia recognizes Palestine as a state.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Okay, So so he's talked to Abus. He also wants
a call with bb Why is why has Albow suddenly
become the guy who wants to get himself involved in
the Middle East?

Speaker 9 (20:23):
Well, good question, I mean to me, it's a bit
of a mystery, to be honest. I mean, Australia's position
is pretty well known. The temperature has been amping up
over here. We had that huge rally on Sunday and
the pouring rain of the Harbor Bridge. Yeah, so that
the optics of that was pretty was pretty profound.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
The answer, isn't it, muz, is that is that he's
been he's been pressured by Australians who want to see
something done, and he's doing something or at least trying.

Speaker 9 (20:51):
Well, that could be one explanation, to be honest, I
hadn't sort of thought down that as a rabbit hole,
but you might be dead right because the optics were very,
very powerful. I mean you see all ages, women in wheelchairs,
babies on shoulders. It was a hell of a turnout
in a dreadful, dreadful weathery day. So you know who knows,
I mean politics, Your gifts is as good as mine.

(21:14):
But gee was don't they love an optical like a pick? Fact?
Don't they love an opportunity to stand there in front
of the cameras?

Speaker 13 (21:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Totally. Hey, how about your consumer confidence? What's going on?

Speaker 14 (21:25):
Well?

Speaker 9 (21:26):
Interest rates are coming down, that's the inflations down right
where the Reserve Bank wants it, and expectations of a
cut in interest rates have really accelerated. This push in
consumer confidence the highest level since labor one and twenty
twenty two. So you know. The A and zed Roy

(21:46):
Morgan mob released their weekly consumer Sentiment report today and
what it's found. Four percentage points have jumped the last week.
Four percentage points. That's a heck of a big uptick,
no doubt about that. The Reserve Bank is going to
meet next week and every economist, I mean hundred percent

(22:08):
of economists, I'm not sure how many they are, it's
maybe twenty I've all said, Yes, rates are coming down
next week and another rate cut before Christmas, So no wonder.
There's a bit of a step, a bit of a spring,
and the step of people over here have been groaning
under the weight of a lot of debt.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Too bloody right, do you reckon that Melbourne can become
the world's most optimistic city.

Speaker 9 (22:29):
Melbourne gets a bad rap, you know, I mean, you know,
Sidney gets more rained every year than Melbourne when you
look at the two. Yeah, truly, truly, we just get
it more heavily, less frequently. Melbourne just drizzled the bloody time.
It's just h yeah, that's that horrible drizzle. Melbourne's got
great coffee and maybe the best sporting precinct in the
world with the mcg and then the Tennis center just

(22:51):
down the hill. But for me, that's where it sort
of stops. It's a boring syne.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
So overrated. I hate it eye boarderline hated you hate velvet.

Speaker 10 (23:03):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 9 (23:05):
Well the mayor seems to think. Listen. He had a
big round table. His name is Nick Reese. He hosted
a Melbourne twenty to fifty summit back in May, looking
for new initiatives to promote the city. A lot of
young people were there and they said, listen, can we
also include KPIs for happiness? We want to measure the
feel good factor amongst Melburnian's what do we like about
our city. Let's have a strategy to make it the

(23:27):
world's most optimistic and happiest city. Just half close your eyes.
A minute ago they were lockdown with the worst COVID
lockdown in the world. Daniel Andrew's strutting around in his
north faced jacket with his big buddy E is sticking
out like the doors in a Volkswagen, absolutely making everyone furious.
A minute ago. That's what that was the temperature and

(23:50):
the tone in Melbourne. Now the new mayor says, the
city is going to be pumping, We're going to be humming.
We're going to be optimistic and happy. Well your borderline hate,
my goodness, I really do.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I hate muz. Thank you appreciate it, Marriol's Australia correspondent.
See how that goes for Melbourne. Drizzle does somewhat dampen
the mood, doesn't it?

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Here?

Speaker 2 (24:11):
The AI already marks my draft internal assessments, does a
better job and a quicker job than I could. Listen,
just on that matter of elbow calling, the Palestinians. I mean,
I don't know what value it is to call the
Palestinian authority, but regardless, so he's calling the Palestinians and
he's calling, he's trying to get a phone call with
Benyaminett and Yahoo. I kind of I've got to be honest,

(24:31):
I kind of like the approach that Albow's taking on this,
because I think this is the kind of approach that
has to be taken. And I feel like it wouldn't
the more if there were more world leaders getting on
the blow out of these guys and going listen, we
have had an absolute guts full of it. My people
are furious. Surely it would kind of start to get

(24:52):
just shape a bit of sentiment in the Middle East.
Because I was listening to something the other day. It
was a couple of BBC correspondents who are very very experienced,
very very connect They were talking about this, and the
revelation from them is that the Israelis, at least at
the cabinet level, have no idea how upset the world
is about what's going on in Gaza. They have no idea.
The officials do, because the officials are the ones the

(25:12):
diplomats are the ones having to meet with other diplomats
around the world and just getting an absolute bollocking from
around the world. Theyre the ones having to listen to
media in the rest of the world and see what's
going on. But actually at the cabinet level in Israel,
they've got no idea how upset everybody is. So maybe
if everybody around the world's got on the blower to
bb and just gave him a bollocking, maybe he might
start to realize that there is potentially some value in

(25:32):
what Albow's doing.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Quarter to politics with centrics credit, check your customers and
get payment certainty.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
The Elbow is just grandstanding thirteen away from five Barries.
So per senior political correspondence with US, Hey Barry, good afternoon, Heather.
Do you reckon that there's going to be a big
uproar over this Maca bill.

Speaker 8 (25:47):
Well, you know, the Three Principles Bill saw the Maldi
Party essentially basically enrage a number of people and they
got what tens of thousands of people at Parliament. This
does retro respectively removed some Maori rights to the Foreshawn
Sea bed. But they knew it was going to happen.
I mean it was the court that decided, I think

(26:09):
wrongly that the Maori claims going back to eighteen forty
was overturned, saying it was too hard. That's what the
court said. The government said, no, that's the way it
should be because customary title can prevent a lot of
things happening on the foreshore. Now, the last time the

(26:29):
government legislated, of course, against the foreshaw and seabed changes,
was in two thousand and four, and that was Helen
Clark's government. And you may remember that Tarranaturia she defected
from the Labor Party and started the Maldi Party. Although
the late Tariana I dealt with that. She would agree
with some of the actions of the Maori Party today,

(26:52):
but she in fact led the charge. But you know
it wasn't as radical as what we see in parliament today.
But certainly it does make a lot of difference to
claims that were made since midway through last year, about
half a dozen claims that were settled. They'll now be overturned.

(27:13):
So look, whenever you interfere with something like this, you're
always going to get some sort of retribution, and I
think the government will be expecting some sort of protest.
But we'll have to wait and see. He says it's
going to be through by October this year.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
So you know it doesn't have a long time. As
about no non did you see what happened at Winston
Peter's press conference yesterday?

Speaker 8 (27:34):
Well, you know, I found it ridiculous, as if Winston
isn't big enough to handle his own questions. He had
his senior advisor, John Johansson there telling journalists he was
at the Cork Islands celebration of their constitution sixty years
with New Zealand. And John Johnson's senior advisor of a

(27:54):
former political lecturer at Victoria University, telling journals us to
ask non political question.

Speaker 9 (28:03):
Well what is it?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Because he was was Winston. Winston was getting quite a
grilling over his relationship with Mark Brown, which is pretty
clearly under a lot of pressure because Mark Brown sounds
like a bit of a pain in the butt frankly
at the minute. And John Johanson piped up and asked
reporters if they had any questions that aren't about politics.

Speaker 8 (28:19):
Unbelievable And this is the very same man. And I'll
tell you a particular story. You know what the story is.
Back in two thousand and eight in Washington, d C.
We confronted Winston Peters at the Senate. He was seeing

(28:40):
John McCain, and Winston got agro with us about asking
John McCain too many questions, and McCain was telling us
that if he had any position of power in the
United States, then our anti nuclear legislation would not be
a bar to his presidency. Well, not as presiden, he said,

(29:00):
if he had any power. And I went on to
postulate on here that there is a possibility that John
McCain could be the Republican nominee for the presidency. Further
down the track, well, our friend John Johnson came out
publicly and said it just goes to show how much
Barrys open knows about American politics. He would never be

(29:21):
the Republican nominee. Well, as it turned out, he's stood
against Barack Obama. Obama won, But McCain certain he.

Speaker 15 (29:28):
Was right there.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
So is every single time John Johansson does something, still
remind him you're going to you're going to you're going
to tell everyone, just to make sure that you get
him back.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
I quite, but you know, sometimes you should keep your
trap shut. That's my view, and a lot of people
would be saying where you could keep.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
The irony is not lost? Right now, Hey, really quickly,
where are we at with that by election?

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Well, we've got five candidates standing in the by election,
but it's really look when you boil it down, it's
really a battle between two old Coe radio hosts, Willie
Jackson and John Tammy Hitry Tammany Herry is the president
of the MALDI party. He'll be running the campaign for them,
and Willie Jackson is the campaign manager for PENI, So

(30:18):
it'll be a battle between those two because they also
rans haven't really got to show Hannah Tommocky Bishop Brian's Yeah,
it'll be it'll be interesting. But look, they won't be
able to attack the common foe and that's the government,
and they won't like to attack each other because there
could be in coalition. So aim barlect.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
And that's going to bring all the spice. Thanks very much,
Barry so for seeing your political correspondence even away from five.

Speaker 16 (30:47):
Entertain the Breakfast New Zealand on air, brunching out of
this finding every re others. Eely Iren Gardens, President of
the Screen Producers Association Treasure Ireland. I've never watched it obviously,
but you put a primetime TV too. Are you telling
me you count tele advertising around that that covers it?

Speaker 7 (31:03):
No, I'm not lying.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
They cut about fifty million out of spending on local
production last year and it's because of big Tech.

Speaker 16 (31:09):
Should I go on Celebrity Treasure Island give them the help?

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Well, that would be entirely up to your I invited me.

Speaker 16 (31:14):
On a number of years ago.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
But you know they don't pay any money.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
And you know would I probably would?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I reckon?

Speaker 5 (31:22):
I probably would.

Speaker 16 (31:22):
I wreck back tomorrow at six am the Mike Husking
Breakfast with Rain Drover News talk z B.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Here there is just going to be at Oprah.

Speaker 9 (31:30):
H M.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I was going to go to Oprah, but now I'm
going to feel like I'm going to have to make
some phone calls. Thanks, thank you for that. Actually, thank you.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
I work.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, this is good. I'll do the due diligence for
You'll let you know, because nobody needs that kind of stress.
Can you imagine the stress that we would all be in.
It was sitting in the room and they just oxygen't
just be sucked out.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Aura.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Now this is the app We've talked about, this affair,
but this is the act that the retailers used to
report the crime, you know, and it really it sounds
like it's really brilliant tool. You can put up the
CCTV footage and receipts and names and dates of birth
and ages of people and blah blah blah, and all
that kind of stuff set it through to the cops
so successful, unfortunately that the cops appear to be completely
overwhelmed by it. So we're going to talk to the
police about it very shortly.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Fricking Chris Hopkins, he looks like maybe he might be
walking back the oil and gas thing. Do you remember
last year I spoke to Chris Hopkins it was August,
and he was pretty clear that if the oil and
gas gets underway again, they're just going to reban it.
Are you going to bring the band back?

Speaker 17 (32:31):
And we said that we're opposed to the removal of
the oil and guests, but you know, the band on
new Oil and Guess Exploration, I'm sure and we would
reinstate that again.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yes, they're going to bring the band back. But then
this morning he was on with Ryan and didn't sound
the same.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
Well, we haven't finalized that yet, Ryan.

Speaker 9 (32:46):
So it's much like the same questions around that you
were just asking me before when we finalized our policies
for the next selection.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
I'll be happy to answer questions.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's a bit hopeful, isn't it. But was she washy
from him? But I'll take wishy washy at the moment
if it means that we get less stupidity how we've
Unfortunately his mates at the Greens still want the band,
so you're gonna have to sort that out, isn't he. Anyway, Listen,
let's talk to the unions about how they feel about
the AI marking the externals from when the new NCAA
thing comes in.

Speaker 11 (33:13):
News talks at bas for a new person over.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Again, questions, answers, thanks, analysis, the drive, show you trust
for the full picture.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Heather Duplessy on Drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected.
News talks at b afternoon.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
AI could be marking school assessments once n CEA is
completely scrapped. It's actually already being used to mark NCEEA
corequisite exams. Chris Abercrombie is the president of the Post
Primary Teachers Association and with us right now, Hey, Chris, gooday,
how are you good? Thank you? This is a good idea.

Speaker 13 (34:01):
What was already been used in say in some aspects
now of the COREX. I'm not one hundred think convinced
AI is there yet.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
To do all of the work.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
But it's it's we're using it right now.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
And it seems to be successful.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
What do you think it can't do.

Speaker 14 (34:18):
Well?

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I mean, I've marked in c A exams.

Speaker 13 (34:21):
I've done that in my time, and I just sort
of seeing how the student's right understanding, you know, reading
between the lines, trying to you know, sometimes you have
to figure out what the student's trying to say. And
I just don't know if AI is quite there yet
to be able to do those kind of things.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
In the case where it is more simple and it's
like let's say, mathematics, i'd imagine would be much easier
where the ANSWER's got to be twenty six and there's
nothing else it can be. Apparently it's as good, if
not better than humans. Have you found that?

Speaker 13 (34:46):
So again we'll just going remember what enz QA said
about doing the COREXIT. They've been really happy with the
success rate of it, and they've been using human markers
to check basically check their I marking in the INTROM.
They're being really happy with the success of it. So
I think there's definitely some applications for it, but I
just don't think it's there yet for everything.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Is it the case that teachers will lose money because
they get paid for marketing externals at the moment?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yes, so at the moment.

Speaker 13 (35:14):
So if a teacher applies to be a market they
get paid to do that at the end of the
year for the end of year exams. So if they
are taken away, then yet there will be teachers will
be losing money for that.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, any outcry about that just yet.

Speaker 13 (35:26):
I haven't had any feedback from any of our members
yet about that, but we'll be interesting to see as
the years go on and we get close and close
at that time if that's something that's a concern.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Christ You know what is surprising me is basically how
well everything that Erica Stanford has done to this point,
everything has gone down with people. Is how is it
because generally unions will give a national education minister a
really hard time, why is that not happening this time?

Speaker 13 (35:52):
Well, it's never about the party, it's about the policy.
And if you've got policy that listens to the sector
and then we're going to get behind it. There's some
concerns about some of this policy, about the implementation. It's
going to be a two years time frame. It's pretty tight,
so it's going to have to be really on point
and well resourced about to get there. But there's general
consensus that some changes need to be made to NCAA.

(36:13):
We're already on that progress, particularly around coherence of subject
balance between internals externals, and so this meets some of
those goals.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
So you guys feel listened to by her.

Speaker 13 (36:25):
Definitely at the moment.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
We do in this aspect and a lot of it,
so hopefully that continues.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Good stuff. Hey, thanks Chris, Chris Abercronni Abercrombie PBTA.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
President Heather dupless elis software.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
That retailers used to report theft to police is so
good that it's actually overwhelming police. It's called Aura, and
reports have gone from four thousand a month in twenty
twenty two to eight thousand a month this year. Mike
Johnson is the Assistant Commissioner at the New Zealand Police Hey,
mikejua Hew.

Speaker 17 (36:51):
Are you here.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
I'm very well, thank you. Can you guys investigate everything
that it's sending your way.

Speaker 17 (36:57):
Look, we always have to prioritize all of the information
in relation to crime. Theft or shoplifting is absolutely or
retail crime is absolutely a key part of it.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
So how much do you think you get through or
if they send you four thousand or in this case
now is obviously eight thousand a month, how much of
that gets wrapped up and investigated and finished.

Speaker 17 (37:18):
Well, what happens with that is we make an assessment
on it. If there's lines of inquiry, then it gets
forwarded to district for further investigation and holding people to
account where we can. If there's no lines of inquiry
and that there is a percentage of that, then they
get assessed, they get closed. But like anything either, if
there's further information comes to us in relation to a

(37:41):
matter that we previously close, we'll reconsider it as well.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's about ninety seven percent that actually meets you evidential threshold,
isn't it.

Speaker 17 (37:50):
It's certainly well a high number. I don't have that
number in front of me.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
So off eight ninety seven percent of getting over the
threshold is much higher than it was previous to Aura.
And now you've got the team who investigate this kind
of thing with a backlog so big it's got sixty
six thousand cases in January backed up. There's no way
you're going to be able to get through all this
stuff is there.

Speaker 17 (38:14):
So we're always prioritizing either this is a good news story,
we want to know what the total crime picture is
for us, right and we want to series link. We
want to put together where there's prolific offenders and deal
with the other matters. Our jobs to prioritize to put
resources to the crime type in retail crimes, absolutely in

(38:37):
that space. Just make a comment. The technologies change, We've
always got to adapt to what comes through, and this
is another example of that. And what you're seeing is
us pivot in relation to retail crime. We've set up
retail crime units. You see city beat teams set up
with that presence link to retailers and then with a

(38:58):
national Retail Crime Unit investigation unit which deals with some
of auer stuff that comes through. There's a number of
other reporting lives or it is absolutely a channel in
a significant one, but we also have the ten to
five online reporting front counter reporting crime Stoppers officer discovered,

(39:21):
it's the city beat team. And then if there's an
offender present. We've also got the triple one.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
Okay, wow, we've got really off topic. Hey, thanks, Mike,
really appreciate it. Mike appreciate a really in depth and
our explanation of how that system works. Mike Johnson, Assistant
Police Commissioned. Let me just listen, let me just totally
explain to you what he just said. No, they're not
going to be able to investigate everything that retailer is
ascending them. There is too much thirteen past.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Five together to see it.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
But why does it take two court sessions to charge
your mother for putting her kid in a suitcase like this? Well, allegedly,
remember it's allegedly at the moment, because she's before the courts.
Fair point, don't know, I suspect. I just wonder if
it's because the forensic psychology team now being involved. So
what's happened today is that she who is accused of
putting her baby girl, the two year old, in the
suitcase and then at the bottom of the bus. She

(40:09):
has reappeared it. She appeared yesterday, she's reappeared in court
this afternoon, has been denied bail. Those are the north
Shore District Court. So she is not going to be
a leadout. She has to stay in jail. She is
now going to be sent to see a forensic psychology team,
which I think most of us think is a good
idea in these circumstances, because that doesn't feel right minded

(40:30):
to do that allegedly. Anyway, what we're now hearing is
that the baby was understood to have been in the
suitcase for nearly an hour. Police are not saying who
is caring for the baby, but it clearly ain old
mate who's in jail at the moment, and for good reason. Anyway,
I'm not finished talking about this topic. That we'll deal
with this before the half hour is through. Fourteen past five. Well, listen,

(40:51):
you've got to hear this. BYD these guys are absolutely
crushing it. Launching in New Zealand and just twenty twenty
two with the Atto three. There are already over night
nine thousand BYDS on Kiwi Roads. And get this, every
single model that they sell here is award winning and
that is not hype. That is just a fact. You
buy one of their cars, it's won in award Consumer
magazine even surveyed car owners and BYD owners are the

(41:13):
most satisfied They are just loving their vehicles. Right now.
BYD's got six killer models. They've got the Dolphin, the Seal,
the c Lion six, the Sea Lion seven, the A three,
and then the Yote, the Shark six. But they're not
slowing down. Four more are coming by the end of
the year. They've got two small cars. They've got a
medium suv and a mass of seven seater suv. Here's
where it gets insane though. Globally. BYD is growing at

(41:34):
a scale we've never seen before. They've got over one
hundred and twenty thousand full time R and D engineers.
That's just the R and D engineers. That's twice as
many as Toyota. They are filing forty five plus new
patents in tech every single day. Their new mega factory
where they build the Shark six thirty two thousand acres
that's half the size of the able Tasman National Park.
One hundred and sixty thousand people work there. They went

(41:55):
from dirt to full production and nine months. Nine months. People.
These guys are on another level, So check them out
at BYD Auto dot Co dot mzgether heither I'm a cop.
We're totally overwhelmed by Aura. Thank you David. Eighteen past five.
Yet again, yet again, the New World promotion is out
of stock. What a surprise. Shops have started to run

(42:18):
out of the prize top option, which is the smeg Brasier.
They're not going to get any more deliveries. Nobody from
Food Stuffs was available to speak with us today. Once again,
what a surprise. Consumer. New Zealand CEO John Duffy is
with me.

Speaker 18 (42:30):
Hello, John, Hi here, there are you going.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I'm well? But this is like Groundhog Day, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (42:38):
Well it is.

Speaker 18 (42:39):
Yes, every time a New World runs some of these promotions. Yes,
we do get complaints that that stock has run out.
They do put up you know, in their advertise and
they say well stocked last. But yeah, often the stocks
don't you know, the level of stocks, don't meet people's
expectations and they're run out.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Who ended this launch? It feels to me like this
launched what like there was it four weeks ago? Or
am I not being fair here?

Speaker 19 (43:06):
No?

Speaker 18 (43:06):
It feels about four weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
So they want to tell me that they're running out
of the thing that everybody wants about halfway through that's
byes isn't it.

Speaker 18 (43:15):
Well, yeah, under the Fit Training Act, they do need
to make sure even when they say well stock last,
they need to have reasonable stocks to meet demand. And
I guess the thing is with these promotions. This is
not their first rodeo. They've done these over the years,
so they do know that these promotions are popular. I

(43:37):
can't make any comment on whether their stock levels are
appropriate because they don't know the level of demand. But yeah,
they need to buy law make sure that their stocks
are appropriate.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Okay, So should I mean, look, just for goodwill? I
know that they can't I understand the logistics of the thing,
right they can't possibly actually fully imagine how many people engage,
how many people would want to have this particular thing.
But surely the smart thing to do for good will
would be would be to say, if you have a
stick of full of the things and you want to
bring it in and we'll go and order you another one.
Shouldn't they do that because they can?

Speaker 18 (44:07):
Right well, I'm not sure if they can. It may
depend on the deal that they've got with Smeg, who's
the manufacturer here. It could be that this is you know,
end of line stock or you know, whatever the deal
is that they've got so that they can offer them
on you know, effectively on special through the promotion. So

(44:28):
maybe that they can't get any more that there's a
closed window. But I don't know that really is for
food stuff to say, did those of you right?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I know in the past people have complained to the
Commerce Commission about similar things. Do they ever go anywhere?

Speaker 18 (44:42):
Well, my understanding is that there was a promotion on
knives a couple of years ago or even last year,
and I think the knife block ran out earlier than people.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
As well. A that's the one people wanted.

Speaker 18 (44:58):
Well, it kind of was because you've got to the end,
collected all the nights and you're like, well where am
I going to put these things? Let's go get the
knife block. But there I don't know what the actual
number was. There was only five available nationwide, and they
ran out pretty quickly. It wasn't that small. Please don't
sue me, food stuffs.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But cares if they do. You want to talk about it,
so whatever, you can say, whatever you want, John right.

Speaker 18 (45:17):
Now, Well, the issue really was that the knife blocks
ran out quicker than people anticipated. And my understanding was
there were complaints to the Comms Comission. Whether it was
specifically on that issue or not, I'm not sure, but
no doubt the Comms Comission had a look at it
and probably repeated to food Stuff's what I've just said that, Hey,
you need to make sure you've got reasonable stocks and

(45:38):
before you advertise these promotions.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And yet here we are again, John, Thanks so much,
John Duffy, Consumer New Zealand CEO. The promotion started on
the ninth of June, you idiot, thank you. That harsh,
But we're in the mode of being harsh at the moment,
so I'll take it. Ninth of June's that's two months.
Another month is to go. So there two thirds of
the way through and they've run out. I still don't
think that I still don't think that it's on FIO.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Informed inside into today's issues. It's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive
with one New Zealand. Let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 9 (46:11):
That'd be neither.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
We've got a few of the smega items already. Just
buy the more when the promotion opens, which is the
point I suppose. So five twenty five, listen, I want
to talk about kids being bashed by their families. We've
had a really bad run of it. I don't know
if you realized in the last few weeks, as far
as I can see, just in the last eight weeks,
just what I've seen, We've had the toddler in the suitcase.
We've had the baby in the bin in Auckland. We've
had a two month old go to hospital with serious

(46:33):
injuries that happened today. We've had a three month old
taken to hospital in Wellington in June, and we've had
a six month old critically injured at a Foxton beach
house in July. And we've hardly talked about this. I mean,
we've talked about the toddler in the suitcase yesterday. I
mean world media talked about the toddler in the suitcase
yesterday because it is so bizarre it's hard to ignore.
We talked about the baby and the bin. That got
about a day's worth of coverage again because that was

(46:56):
pretty out there, ah, putting a baby in a bin.
But everything else almost no coverage. Now do you know
why that is? I mean, part of it is obviously
that this is now not unusual anymore. We just bash
our babies all the time in this country apparently, But
also because you're not actually allowed to talk about it.
I don't know if you realize this, but if the
moment that autong Atomatiki, which is the new sif's the

(47:17):
moment that ot uplifts a kid, the family caught orders
basically automatic blanket suppression on it, which means the police
can't say anything. It means ot itself can't say anything.
It means the media can't say anything. So the news
coverage just basically dies. We got babies gone to hospital.
That's the end of it, no more coverage. It's actually
only when the child dies that we can talk about
it in detail, because there is now no young person

(47:37):
to protect anymore. Now, isn't that the opposite of what
we want? I mean, I think this is doing our
kids a disservice. I understand why we did this in
the first place, while we put these suppression orders in.
The idea was to protect the privacy of these young people.
But what it is also doing is it's protecting the
privacy of the thugs and their families who put them
in hospital or in the suitcase or in the bin.
And what it also means is that no one then

(47:59):
talks about what's going on. We're not horrified by the
detail because there is no details, so we don't talk
about it, including politicians. They should be the ones pitching
solutions at the rate that we're bashing our kids. This
should be an election issue every single election, but it's
not because we hardly talk about it because of the rules.
So surely the rules.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Should change, Heather Duplicy, Ellen, here's a weird.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
One for you, and let me know what you think
about that. Actually, we talk to the huddle about it.
Here's a weird one you don't Nobby Clark And in
Vicargol his brother is now running for the mayor of
him Vercargol. That's not the weird bit. The weird bit
is the brother's running for the mayor of m Vicargol
at the same time as running for the mayor of Tasman,
where he lives, and under two different names. And in
Vicargo he's Andrew Clark and Tasman he's Maxwell Clark, and

(48:38):
apparently if he wins both elections, he can be mayor
in both places at the same time with his split personality. Anyway,
I don't know which one he's bringing to us, but
we're going to have him with one of those personalities.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Next on the iHeart app and in your car on
your drive home it's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Let's get connected news dogs, they'd.

Speaker 11 (49:03):
Be don't you win the buddy, I can do this all.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Hey, abuse you if you wanted to put one of
those little garages or something in the backyard and you
haven't got much space. They're changing the rules. This is
Chris Pink. He's changing the rules so you can push
it right up against the boundary fence, which might actually
might actually work for a little yard in Auckland nowadays.
We'll have a chat to him about that after six
the huddle standing by. We've got David Ferrer and Stuart
Nash right now, twenty four away from six. Now we've

(49:29):
got a case of one man running for mayor in
two different parts of the country. So Andrew Maxwell George Clark,
who's the brother in Thecaggol's current mayor, Nobby Clark, is
running in in Vicargol as Andrew Clark, but he's also
running in Tasman as Maxwell Clark. And he's with us now.

Speaker 14 (49:47):
Hello mate, good evening, thank you hearer.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
So what do I call you? Are you Andrew or
Maxwell today.

Speaker 14 (49:54):
Well, I mean two, I'm that's normal name I can
I've always been known as My first name is Andrew,
as you're well aware. Since my school days, I've been
known as Maxwell locally. All my business and correspondent's come
to me through Andrew Clark and Nelson. I'm known as Maxwell,

(50:15):
so I think it's appropriate to use that name locally.
And Andrew, as I said, is my preferred name, and
that I'm known locally as well. So I've made a
full disclosure to the electoral officer. That's how it goes.
I don't see the issue with it. I'm quite surprised
that it has become an issue.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
No, I think it's probably more of a quirk than
an issue. But the issue is why you're running in
two different places at the same time. Is this you
just hedging your beds?

Speaker 6 (50:43):
No, it's not.

Speaker 14 (50:45):
I look at things logically. When I put my application
and a Tasman here, the Tasman mayor was undecided whether
you'd stand or not. So really speaking, you think there's
a reasonable opportunity. It's very there for standing mere to
be uh you know, up in the elections. If he's
done a reasonable job and if he's not standing, there's

(51:08):
a better chance to stand there. But when he nominated,
he was standing, and so there were four candidates. And
locally here I was approached by business people from in
Vocago and some local rate payers who have known me
for a long time. And at the last minute they
suggest to me, why didn't I put my name forward
the and the vacancy and in Vcago And I quite honestly,

(51:31):
I'm very passionate about the people in in Vcagole. I
think that the economic situation is very good, and I
like the environment, and I'm generally very impressed with the place.
So I thought, well why not.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
So then why don't you put out of the Tasman
race if you going if you're going for the Ambago race.

Speaker 14 (51:47):
Now, well you can't do that once. Once the nomination's
closed unless you can get a medical certificate to you can't.
You can't withdraw your nomination.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
So you don't want to run in Tasman. You don't
want wind Tasman. You want to win in v Cargo.

Speaker 14 (52:01):
Now I'm very keen to winning the Cargole. I'm standing
in both. If I got both, well, it would be
a very good position to be in It's quite interesting
because in both places there's a similar size council and
I think the knowledge you gain from one that's got
an advantage to the other. And when you stand in

(52:24):
the council position at a mayor's level, you've got access
to knowledge which is an information which is very helpful
for both countis does it what.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
You're telling me right now? It sounds like you're actually
planning to if you were to win both do both jobs.

Speaker 14 (52:39):
I would have to consider it at that point in time,
So I would.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Have you got enough energy for both? Jeez, I don't
know if I have enough energy for both?

Speaker 7 (52:47):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (52:48):
I have?

Speaker 14 (52:49):
I've got many advantage you know, and I've done well.
Basically my background is in the health industry. I've worked
a long time. I co own an ambulance company. I'm
an intensive care paramedic and emergency here in there. I've
got a lifetime commitment to helping others and it's my
belief that I can help both both counsels. One of

(53:09):
the critical things is what comes into the equations. The
government's policy towards councils this day that they want you
to share knowledge, they want you to share resources and
everything else. And if you looked at them, the Cargol
and you looked at Tasman, there quite opposite in a
lot of directions, and a good good example would be
an inn Vercagol. They're very keen to bringing a water

(53:32):
charge and put meeters in the charge the locals. They
currently charge eight hundred dollars per per household for water rates.
Now talking to my brother when he was talking freely
to me and other counselors, they're very keen to introduce
its water meeters and charges. I've had the experience in

(53:53):
Nelson to realize what it means. I have a bill
a normal charge of five hundred dollars or five hundred
and fifty dollars in my property and my rate my
water charges in the last six months was six hundred
and fifty dollars. Now there's three of us in the household.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Now, well, okay, Andrew, I'm gonna have to stop you
there because like this is this is fascinating, but also
a lot of detail for everybody else. So I can
I get the vibe you're going to share your knowledge
from one part of the world to the other. Thank
you for your time, Andrew Clark Tasman and in Vicargo
meural candidate the.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, Unique Homes, Uniquely
for you.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
I'm the huddle with me this evening we have David
farakiw we blog and Curi Opolster and Stuart Ash, Robert
Walter's former Labor Party minister. Hello are you too?

Speaker 19 (54:38):
Hello David?

Speaker 9 (54:39):
How are you yah?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
How did we did we know that you could do this?

Speaker 18 (54:44):
Do you you know?

Speaker 10 (54:44):
I wish this guy's had the same name as his brother.
His brother's name is Nobby Clark, because what a bloody knob.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
I mean, how can you.

Speaker 10 (54:51):
Be passionate about one area, stand for another and expect
me to vote for you.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Sorry, there's a truth to pa, David.

Speaker 10 (55:00):
This guy's taking the purse and I hope Joones acknowledge it,
and I hope he gets last. You can't go and
say you're passion about one and run to the mirror
of another district.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
Goodnessmith, David, Well the whole sun auto with the two names. Raw,
there's the sabbation. I'm like, did he just hope no
one would notice that's the same person after the election?

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Anything?

Speaker 6 (55:22):
I imagine where someone might stand for the mayoralty of
two neighboring districts, but you know they're both in the
South Island. I guess, really, big, did you know?

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Did you know David, that there's another person doing it,
Peter Wakeman, who's running for mayor in CHRISTI gener also
in Auckland.

Speaker 6 (55:42):
No is he though one of the not particularly serious candidates.

Speaker 9 (55:46):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
I mean having said that Tim macargoll, Tim shed Bolt
was the outsider and he got and bought was it
twenty two terms or something?

Speaker 10 (55:57):
Well, look that this guy, mister Clark whatever we call
I'm Andrew, he said, I'm not too sure. I mean
he's got on here the deep c Allen right, he's
got on drive drives.

Speaker 8 (56:07):
When this PR campaign has going brilliantly so far.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Now listen, ste if we're funding trash TV instead of netball,
doesn't that tell you we need a complete shakeup of
how we fund tally.

Speaker 10 (56:18):
You know, TV and Z is losing what fifty million dollars?
Just give it up, fellas. I'm sure the government's got
better things to spend its money on it. When I
read this TV and Z funding reality TV.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
It's New Zealand on air it's New Zealand on air.

Speaker 10 (56:30):
Well, New Zealand their funding reality TV? Really what about?

Speaker 8 (56:32):
You know?

Speaker 10 (56:32):
I don't mind documentaries that find it hard to raise
money in the sort of camera, but reality TV give
me a break.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I can't give money. I can't be okay with this, David.
And in fact, I don't even want to fund what
ste said, which is documentaries that can't raise money. I reckon,
we should be chucking our money at things that we
think are going to be commercially successful, don't we.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Well, most of all, what New Zealand on is meant
to be is for things that were distinctive New Zealand
culture which had no chance of being seen there, but've
lost their way they now fund. They're really just a
sub steen now for the local industry, rather than what
they're meant to be. They're look reality TV. I remember Survivor, right,

(57:12):
You don't actually care if it's New Zealanders on Survivor Americans.
You watch for the drama. It doesn't Having some Kiwis
on there doesn't make it a Kiwi culture show. So no,
they should not be funding reality TV. They should not
be funding half of what they fund. You know, there's
a case for news, current affairs, documentaries, things that reflect
our unique heritage, some to the Mari programming, etc. But yeah,

(57:36):
doesn't just rubbish.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Also, I mean is other days stew where where we
fund things for the small screen actually over? Because if
you want to see a New Zealand accident in New
Zealand face and New Zealand storyline, you can actually just
go on your Facebook. And there are heaps of comedians
putting reels out for free on Facebook right now. I
don't need that.

Speaker 10 (57:51):
I'd love to know how many of your listeners actually
the last time they watched TV and said that you
might watch the news every now and again and maybe
country calendar or something along those lines. That the bottom
line is the vast major already people when they watch
TV they go to Netflix or something else along the line.
So they're flogging a dead horse.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Have you watched Mobland?

Speaker 1 (58:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Oh, you need to watch mob Bland. Have you watched Mobland, David?

Speaker 7 (58:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Not yet.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Oh, you guys are going to change your evening.

Speaker 6 (58:12):
Go on Prime.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
It's like it's the cheapest one. It's about twelve ninety
nine a month and you'll enjoy it very much. Anyway,
listen let's take a break, come back and just to
take its quarter two.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the ones
for unmassed results.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Right, we're back of the huddle, David Farrerh and Stuart Nash.
Now now, David, I have been perplexed in the last
wee while as to why we're not reporting and talking
a lot more about what's going on with kids, because
in the last eight weeks we've had a kid in
a suitcase, a kid in a bin, and three kids
three months, two months, and six months taken to hospital
with injuries and it's hardly actually been reported apart from
the bin in the suitcase. Turns out it's because we

(58:48):
can't actually talk about it because of suppression rules. Do
we not need to change these rules so that we
can talk about this stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
I do think they need to be relaxed, somewhat absolutely raw,
you have to pre tech, you fear trial, etc. This
is I mean as an epidemic, and you know, I
remember being told that, you know, once we'd been parents
from smacking their kids on the hand, this would turn
around our terrible child's abuse stats, and they've only got worse.

(59:16):
And there are factors in these cases which are known,
but we can't talk about them because, as you say,
it gets oppressed. And you know, two two and a
half years later, when you get the coroner's report or
the trial is over, you can, but you've lost their
emotional connection to get people to be blunt angry enough
to demand age.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, I agree. What do you thinks to you?

Speaker 10 (59:38):
You know what I'd really like to see here there
is our community leaders about various diverse communities up and
down the country stand up and start condemning this. I
don't think it should be up to you know, New
Zealand's most popular radio hosts to go online and make
people aware of this. It does need to be people
in our community standing up and going you know what,
people knew this was happening, but they did not speak up.
And people have been got have not to be given

(01:00:00):
the right, the mandate, whatever it is, the power to say, hey,
this just isn't right. But it's not good enough for
us to to you know, to read about this or
hear about on the news and switch over and talk.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
About the black The point that you're making is, and
this is a good points to you, is that if
a kid is getting bashed, people generally know that kid
is getting bashed, right, whether they're the neighbors or the
wider family or the community, they'll know and something somehow
the community needs to get involved, even if it's at
the leadership level or somewhere. You've got to talk about it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:28):
You know, your lessons will remember the car who each twins,
a very famous case. No one went down for that
two twins were murdered. You can't tell me that people
didn't know that was going on, but no one spoke up.
In fact, worse, they protected someone who murdered two kids.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
They know, they know who did it, well, they know,
of course the family knows who did it.

Speaker 10 (01:00:45):
People know who did it, but they protected And that
is outrageous. And this is happening far too often in
our communities, and like you say, we should be a
lot more outraged than we are the fact that it
can't be reported on. I buy into David's argument. You know,
we've got a there's something about a fair trial and
the process, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't be having
this conversation in a way which is a lot more
vocal and a lot more engaged than it currently is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, totally. Hey David, how do you feel about AI
marking the exams?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Good move?

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
Yeah, well, I think that's absolutely fine. Not a only
Will is already going through court discovery documents, etc. Summarizing them.
You still want a human to review stuff, But there's
absolutely nothing wrong with having AI scan through hundreds of
thousands of pages and come up with what I'd call

(01:01:31):
us a draft. Yeah, school, and you just need to
have some order, scene checking, et cetera.

Speaker 10 (01:01:36):
There, No, Look, I don't agree with that, David. I
think AI should be making everything. Humans are the ones
that create the eraas AI will give you kid Ai.
AI will give you consistency from Kai TI down to bluff.
And I think this is fantastic. In fact, AI is
doing this sort of stuff at the moment. By the
time that the Minister rolls this out, AI will be
smarter than any human. In fact, this is brilliant. And

(01:01:57):
if I was a teacher, I'd be going about time,
I'm finally going to use AI in the classroom in
a way that's going to save me a whole lit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I was worried. I was worried to you that everybody
would freak out because because AI feels to me like
something people want to be freaked out, like ge, do
you know what I mean? And they don't understand it.
But I'm heartened by the fact that you're all in
on this.

Speaker 10 (01:02:14):
Oh, this is brilliant. Like I said, every teacher should
be going to Thank God, there's five hours out of
my week taking because AI is going to market a
teaching but it's going to be consistent. It doesn't matter
if you're a sixty year old teacher in Kaitai, a
thirty old teacher in Napier, or a new grad down
and Nmbicago. It is going to deliver consistency and that's
what parents want.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Absolutely. David, did you get into the smeag thing? Did
you get the stickers?

Speaker 10 (01:02:37):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
I'm going to countdown a Woolworth persons. So I haven't
been there, but I have suffered the happens with all
the supermarkets. Finally get enough stickers and they've got like
the least popular items still available, but none of the
stuff you really want. And again, you think this would
have been enough of these competitions that they can work

(01:02:58):
out to plant demand.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
What do you I mean? I'm starting to think, actually, Stu,
maybe they're doing it deliberately for the attention.

Speaker 10 (01:03:04):
Well, okay, like like someone else at the beginning of
your show here that this has now got z B.
Have you the most popular show on radio, it's got
it's got here. So you've just given these guys a
hold out for you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
You're lining yourself up a fight with Hosking if you
carry on like this talking about this.

Speaker 10 (01:03:20):
I would much rather they cut the stickers and drop
the price of butter, then.

Speaker 8 (01:03:23):
Listen to you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Nichola Willis, Hey, thank you very much. Guys really appreciate it.
David Farrer and Stuart nash Our huddle this evening. It's
eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Hither. I'm working at Starship. We see kids bash to
death and permanently disabled weekly because we protect the perpetrators.
It shouldn't be this way. It's heartbreaking and maddening. Yeah, listen,
I have actually met somebody who works at Starship in
the surgical team, and they sometimes have a realization, not
not infrequently, frequently, have the realization that they are operating

(01:04:02):
on a kid that's been put there by their parents,
and that they're fixing that kid up to send them home,
for that kid to come back. There's something very very
wrong with us, say very very wrong with us. And
actually can I just a text that didn't put this
well enough for me to be able to read this
on air, But basically the sentiment of the text was,
what is up with parties on the left? And I'm
looking at you the Mardy Party, and I'm looking at

(01:04:24):
you the Green Party. You sit there with your Gaza
scarves on and yet constantly going on about not that
that's unworthy, it is worthy, but where is all of
the angst about what's going on in this country to
our kids? That's radio silence. I mean, you can get
a lot of media attention for what you're going on
about with Gaza. And again I say, I care about
the kids of Gaza as well, and I do want

(01:04:45):
to see them fed. But that is a situation that's
happening right now, right the situation with us bashing our
kids has been going on for donkeys us and year.
Hardly a word out of those guys near a word
now to be fair, to be fair, to be fair
to them, No politician talks about it because we can't
talk about it, so maybe we should now on another
subject altogether. This is weird as if you've watched Yellowstone,

(01:05:08):
you'll know one of the big problems that they've gotten
that part of the world is that the wolves get
onto the land and eat the animals. Ah really hard
to stop the wolves because they're running such big tracts
of land. There's no way that you can really mind
all of it at once and keep the wolves out.
So what they've done is they've come up with another
way of deterring that the wolves from coming on and
eating the animals. They fly drones, and these drones are
equipped with thermal cameras, and the thermal cameras can see

(01:05:30):
the wolves in the dark, and when they find one,
they turn on the spotlight and they bathe this wolve
in light, which is freaky, and then they start playing
at really freaky noises like fireworks or gunshot. You can
imagine be like an intense like intensely stressful situation. Got
all this light and you got and then and then
they blast ac dc at the animal or the sounds
of humans fighting here are such a dash every day.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Help your dad, don't like it.

Speaker 15 (01:05:57):
If I can guarantee every repeal, i'd look and they
can get by in time, Doe.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
That is literally the fight that they play the wolves.
That is the fight between Scarlett Johnson and Adam Driver
and the movie Magic story basically marriage story rather not
magic at all. Basically what they're trying to do as
they're trying to freak. You know how if you see
two dogs fighting, ah, you look at me. Dogs. Dogs
are scary. I don't want to get involved in that.
That's basically what they're doing. They're like fight Scarlet, fight Adam,

(01:06:25):
scare the wolves.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
You're such a deck.

Speaker 15 (01:06:29):
Every day I wake up when I help your debt,
don't like it. If I can guarantee every repeal, I
don't think cann and they can get by and tie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
After that, the wolves see one of us coming at them,
they're like run Talk Garages Next with Chris Pink.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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seven past six, so we have a little bit more
slashing of red tape for homeowners. Government has decided you're
going to be able to build yourself a single story
building under ten square meters, so think a small garage

(01:07:17):
or shed or something like that on the property on
the property boundary without any mandatory set back distance. For
buildings that are slightly bigger ten to thirty square meters,
the mandatory set back distance will be reduced to one meter.
Previously you had to get consent for that kind of stuff.
Chris Pink is the Minister for Building in Construction High Chris, Hello, Heather,
how far out would you have had to build it
in the past.

Speaker 20 (01:07:39):
Well, it depends on the size of the shed, but
the usual rule is that the height of the shed
dictates the distance that you need to have set back
from the boundary or another building. So just making it
a bit more clear cuts and straightforward, as well as
a bit freer for people to do what they like
in their own backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Right, So if you're building a shed that I don't know,
let's say, is a couple of meters high, and sometimes
you do then it's a couple of meters back from
the fence.

Speaker 20 (01:08:02):
Is it currently, Yes, but we're going to do a
blanket roll if it's less than ten square meters, so
obviously floor area, then you can go right up to
the fence and you know, up to thirty square meters
that becomes one meter.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
What was the justification for that setback, Well, there's.

Speaker 20 (01:08:20):
A reasonable point to be made about fire safety. But
when you have a blanket roll and you don't think
about the likelihood of something that's going to start a
fight in a very small structure, I mean under you know,
up to ten square meters you can barely fill a
box of matches in and you're certainly not having heavy
machinery or people living their best life in there. So
you know, just a bit of a proportionate approach. Is

(01:08:41):
actually the smallers, the less risk it is, and therefore
the closer you can get to the boundary. And obviously
in a world where people are trying to do more
with less space, that kind of makes sense for the
modern age.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
So you don't have to get building consent now. But
do you still have the file paperwork and stuff. No,
so totally paperwork free, like the count doesn't need to
know a thing about it. You just put up your
shed in a way you go.

Speaker 9 (01:09:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:09:05):
I mean, to be fair, we're not we're not changing
anything in that regard. But a previous rule change from
a while back had been that you don't need a
building consents and therefore to go through the full pilavora
of records and so on, and if you're under thirty
square meters.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
I read that this came through the tip line. Are
you getting a fairly decent sized level of kind of
suggestions through that tip line?

Speaker 20 (01:09:26):
Yeah, there's been some really good ones, actually, I mean
this is one that caught my eye, but actually also
caught David Seymour's eye. So today's announcement was a bit
of a joint venture. Who as regulation minister, you know,
controlling the tip line or listening carefully to what's out there,
and it just so happened to fall within my remit
as building and construction. So we both rocked up to
the site where someone had dubbed themselves in for having
an unlawful shed, and we thought we could make the

(01:09:48):
problem go away.

Speaker 9 (01:09:49):
So we did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Have you got eyes on what's coming through that tip line.

Speaker 20 (01:09:53):
I don't as a matter of course, but when they
fall within one of my portfolios, and building and construction
tends to be the that you get a lot of
these niggles and inconsistencies and uncertainties. Then then then you know,
David and his team give me heads up, which is
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Has he given you a heads up on any other ones?

Speaker 20 (01:10:10):
Uh No, but other ministers who are in relevant areas would,
So you know, it's a cleverative effort because we're on
the same page. You know, we've got to unblock the
difficulty that people have living their best life, not doing
anyhow to anyone else.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I'm nosy because I'm really enjoying this type line, so
I want to know everything. Anyway. Listen, Chris, we have
we've got a bit of a construction construction slump going on,
and apparently it's we're now in a renewed slump. Are
you worried about what's going on here?

Speaker 20 (01:10:35):
Yeah, it's obviously been a really tough time for for
the last few years, so I mean, there's nothing new
about that within within the last few years. It's not
that the middle of this year is necessarily worse in
the middle of last year. But the difficulty has been
that people had hoped and expected that by now we
would be out of it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
So we've really.

Speaker 20 (01:10:51):
Stabilized at a low level and in turn having cycles
of boom and bust isn't new for the sector, but
it's been a long one and so that's what we're
really keen. Apart from getting the macro economic settings right
with inflation under control, interstrates coming down in all the
things that then stimulate people to want to be able
to build, we also know we've got to make the
rules easier for people when they do get to that place.

(01:11:13):
Otherwise we'll just prolong the effect because it will take
that much longer for people to get the consents and
do the build good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
Chris, thanks very much. Chris Pink, Minister for Building and Construction.
Eleven past six, Heather Do for Sel. We've got a
new type of avocado in the country. It appears to
have just been well, when I say, just being discovered,
maybe you know, being discovered a little while ago, but
we're just acknowledging that it's a new one. A chap
called Harry has discovered this huge avocado tree at an

(01:11:40):
open home in Nelson, and he's bought the property, and
he joked that he'd bought the property in part because,
you know, the avocado tree was awesome. The previous owner
had planted as a seedling and the thing had just
growing up. It turns out now that this is a
different kind of avocado. It's self fertile, non fibrous, has
a smooth and creamy texture, and is nutty in flavor.
It is not your typical avocado because it is cold tolerant.

(01:12:04):
So at the moment, even though it's pretty cold down there,
they are getting green shoots apparently. And it's also thought
to be resistant to FIGHTO thorer, which I've pronounced every
single every single dip what's that called those things dip
dipthongs whatever, But basically every single letter that I see
in that does five slorer, a root disease that kills

(01:12:25):
avocado trees. Anyway, this thing sounds promising. They're going to
try they're sending it out now. They're going to try
to get people to plant it in really really cold
places and see what happens, because that's the business, right
if you can plant it all over this country, not
in the tropical areas and subtropical areas. Then then we
can all have avocados. Then you're flooding the market with avocados.
You don't worry about paying four dollars in avocado. You're
gonna be plucking it off your tree anyway. Do you

(01:12:46):
know what it's called the harricado named after Harry? That's cool.
A thirteen past six It's the.

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Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Report on hither due to see Alan Drive.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Jamie MacKaye hosts of the Countries with Me right now? Hey, Jamie,
can I.

Speaker 12 (01:13:15):
Hear that You've got to ask Stuart Nash the most
important question? When is the announcing his candidacy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Well, I feel like Stuart su is doing such a
fantastic job of kind of teasing us along with this
and just really kind of, you know, sprooking New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (01:13:29):
First.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I'm almost I don't really want it to come to
an end, do you.

Speaker 12 (01:13:34):
Well, I just think him and Shane Jones would be fun.
As I said to you A couple of weeks ago
as a one two punch combination.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
I'm going to take a bet with you, in all seriousness,
it's not going to happen.

Speaker 12 (01:13:43):
Yeah, I'll take a bet with you, Heather, you think
it's going to happen.

Speaker 9 (01:13:47):
I think he'll stand for New Zealand first.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Yeah, I think he won't stand for New Zealand first
because he's too much of a threat to Winston and Shane,
because he's actually quite good.

Speaker 12 (01:13:55):
What's your theory, Well, Winston will eventually die, although with
the saying that for twenty years, Shane's the air apparent.

Speaker 9 (01:14:03):
But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:14:06):
Maybe he may be a threat to Shane, He's not
a threat to Winston at the stage. So I just
think he's a colorful character for a former labor cabinet minister.
He's very centrist, talks a lot of common sense. I'd
like to see him back. And the other thing about
him here that he's got a very good background and
commercial forestrand with carbon farming and all the debates were
having about climate change and all that sort of stuff,

(01:14:28):
having someone around a cabinet table who knows something about
that would be an advantage.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Okay, now, tell me what I'd totally agree with you
on that. Tell me what you think about Alliance Group
and what's going on here.

Speaker 12 (01:14:39):
Well, it's been Alliance Group's been in a lot of
trouble recently. Poor management's probably part of its downfall, but
the long awaited deal to recapitalize the debt late and
Alliance Group appears to be nearing. There was a story
in the Irish Times over the weekend that Dawn meets
a large Irish meat company. He's going to stump up

(01:15:01):
two hundred and seventy million dollars for a seventy percent
I repeat that seventy percent steak in Alliance which up
till now or is currently the country's only fully farmer
owned red meat cooperative. It's the equivalent I guess of Fonterra.
Now Dawn Meats a slightly larger company in turnover and
volume than the Alliance Group, but would certainly add some

(01:15:24):
I guess off to it. But they've just got to
get this past the shareholders. And what's the use of
being a cooperative if you've only got a thirty percent
steak in the company. Remember the other big former cooperative
and it is still a cooperative as Silverfern Farms, which
has done a fifty to fifty joint venture with Shanghai Mailing.
It's rescued it from the debtor's court in a lot

(01:15:48):
of ways. But even now we're hearing that Silver Fern mit.
Silverfern Farms might have some some profitability issues as well. So, look,
the red meat's a tough industry. The red meat industry here,
there's a tough industry at the moment because while farmers
are getting record prices, that doesn't follow through for the processes.
There's less and less stock due to land use change,

(01:16:09):
carbon farming, you name it, whatever's happening, and they're having
to compete and their margins are being cut. So watch
the space. I think we're going to get an announcement
on Tuesday about the recapitalization of the Alliance Group.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Interesting, okay, Jamie Listener, were starting to get some kind
of an idea of what the Trump tariff's the impact
it's going to have on our agriculture sectors and the
culture sector, you know, the experts that we're send into
the US.

Speaker 12 (01:16:32):
Well, that was announced last Friday. Obviously some people have
been doing some number crunching. I better credit Neil Wallace
from New Zealand Farmers Weekly, who's done some sums on
this one. The fifteen percent tariffs going to cost the
red meat sector and estimated three hundred million dollars wines
the other big loser one hundred and twelve million. We

(01:16:53):
don't know dairy hasn't quite figured it out yet how
much it's going to cost dairy. But dairy is not
as dependent on the US as red meat and winer.
So look, we sent a lot of stuff to the
US last year, two point two billion of meat, one
point two billion a dairy, seven hundred and ninety million
of wine. They took forty six percent of our beef,

(01:17:17):
eighteen percent of our lamb. And the thing is, you know,
we've gone from ten to fifteen. The Aussies have stayed
at ten, as has Argentina. I think it's Argentina and
that just makes them more competitive getting their meat into
the US. But they need, they desperately need our grinding
beef to eat, to produce the hamburgers they eat three

(01:17:40):
each per week.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Whifter they're fat, hush but true.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Jamie, thank you very much. Jamie mckaye, host of the Country,
Three Hamburgers a week. Heck, I reckon, I'd be lucky
to eat three hamburgers in the space of three months.
That wow. Anyway, Yeah, as Jovi says, no wonder the
fat Hey the Gaza situation. Now, the UN has finally

(01:18:07):
released some data and it came out. It came out
in the last twenty four hours. It basically proves the
case that the AID that's going in is being nicked
before it gets the people. So, yes, there is a
shortage of AID, but yes there's a shortage of AD
because it's getting nicked. Only fourteen percent of the AID
that goes and actually lands where it's supposed to land.
Eighty six percent is intercepted either peacefully by hungry people

(01:18:29):
or forcefully by armed actors during transit, and Gaza and
armed actors brackets equals humas. So in the space of
mid May through to last weekend, they sent in about
thirty thousand AID palettes. Of them, twenty six thousand odd
were taken en route. Only four thousand, one hundred and
eighty two paletts. That's four thousand, one hundred and eighty
two palettes out of twenty nine, eight hundred and eighty

(01:18:51):
five thousand pallets. Right, so significant amount. Only four thousand
odd reached the people they were supposed to reach. There
you go, there's some truth to that story.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Twenty two everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
The Business Hour with Heather two for c Ellen and
MAS for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News Talks eNB.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Yeah, some interesting darce has just come out. This has
been published in The Herald that shows what we're doing
with our mortgage rates. Looks like if you look at it, basically,
this is for the month of June, of all the
people locking in their mortgages or changing what's going on
with their mortgages. Forty percent was fixed for a rate.
That's the highest number for one year. Sorry, for a
one year rate, that's the highest number, So forty percent
for a rent for a one year rate. Twenty five

(01:19:33):
percent of the debt was put on a floating rate BACKCLL.
Eleven percent was fixed for two rates, ten percent for
eighteen months, eight percent for six months, and five percent
for three years. What that tells you, I think, if
you're looking at that, is that we are all experienced
well well, the forty percent who fixed for a year
are expecting rates to come down further over the next year,
and they want to wait. They yet, we know we're

(01:19:54):
getting near the bottom, but we're not near the bottom yet.
Smart from you shows we're pretty good with our money
when it comes to the old home loan, doesn't it?
Twenty five past six, Heather do for se Ala, Yes,
I'm Showbuz news for you.

Speaker 8 (01:20:06):
Can here tell you out what they're purprised.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Are now, Sarah, I've never seen anything like this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
There is a new movie out this week, but I
think you probably don't want to spend put your money
on your mortgage. Don't put your money on this movie.
It's called Wold of the War of the World's Right.
It's the modern day reboot of the Tom Cruise Steven
Spielberg film from two thousand and five. The new version
co stars Ice Cube and Eva Longoria. The Rotten Tomato
review score released today and the movie has get this

(01:20:37):
one hundred percent negative reviews. It matches up quite nicely
actually with the film's tagline, which is that it is
worse than you think, almost like they're trying to pre
warn you about their own film. Movie reviewer Dan Morrell
had this to say, I.

Speaker 21 (01:20:49):
Can comfortably say that this war of the World's is
one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
The film, Now, this is the thing that makes it
probably one of the worst films he's ever seen, That
it's part of a recalled screen life. Now, this is
when you film your entire movie as a recording of
a computer screen. So instead of two actors in a room,
it's ice Cube having a FaceTime call while he's sending
an email, which does sound like a horror movie, but
in a different sense of the word. But I so
I asked it because I that sounds too static and

(01:21:18):
boring for me to possibly believe it was true. So
I asked, answer, if it's true, and answer, yes, it's true.
He's watched a movie like this.

Speaker 21 (01:21:23):
Yeah, I watched a movie called Unfriended, which is, by
no stretch of the imagination a good film. But it's
a few years old. But you'd have they were on
a group's skype call for most of the movie, right,
So you've got all these little screens with each of
the characters on them, and then one of them will
also open up a chat window and be chatting to
the other ones, so they'll be saying something publicly, but
also saying something privately to somebody else. So it can,
you know, work if you're into that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
I mean, if you're drunk or high. Maybe it could be.

Speaker 21 (01:21:47):
A fun like little you know, challenge to look. Once
they make a really really good movie like that, I'll
go to back for it. But they haven't come here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Are they doing this because it's cheap?

Speaker 21 (01:21:56):
Very probably?

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yeah? Blown all the money on getting ice Cube? Yeah,
I'm ahead, they wouldn't have either, and then they were like,
oh jeez, we actually don't have any money for moving cameras,
so we're just going to film the screen here.

Speaker 6 (01:22:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Anyway, Paul Bloxhom's with us next on the unemployment number
out tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
The Business Hour with Heather Duplicyllen and it MAS for Trusted.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Home Insurance Solutions News talks 'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Because you've told me Indebrady's going to do the UK
for us in about ten minutes time. Right now, it's
twenty five away from seven and Paul Blocks of Agspecies
chief economist is with us evening.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Paul get eight, what are.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
You picking for our unemployment number tomorrow?

Speaker 19 (01:22:53):
Well, our forecast is a little bit more optimistic than
the market, where forecasting that it might track sideways and
sort of stay roughly the same level that it was
at the last print, so just over five percent five
point one. We've got in mind that you might see
a little bit of positive employment growth and we'll just
see what the print manages to deliver.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Why why are you more positive than others? Do you
think there's labourhooding going on? Or are you accounting for
the fact that a lot of people are just when
they lose their jobs here heading off to Australia.

Speaker 19 (01:23:23):
I think that actually the economy is in a modest
up swing. We saw it in the first quarter GDP print,
we saw it in the fourth quarter print from last year.
I think there are some forces at work that are
supporting the economy. You know, dairy prices have risen to
very high levels. You've got interest rates that have come down.
It's not coming through all of the timely activity indicators

(01:23:44):
as yet, but we're of the view that it will.
And the labor market tends to lag everything. I mean,
that's the thing to really keep in mind, that the
labor market's one of the last things to actually see
any of that sort of momentum, so you see an
improvement and a sentiment to a degree, and then it
feeds through to a bit more activity and then the
hiring starts. So we're not looking for a strong result,
but we're looking for some sense that the labor markets

(01:24:06):
starting to find some stability.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
There is a bit of chat, renewed chat at the
moment about how the economy is faring, and people are
getting pretty grouchy with the government because we're eighteen months
into our electoral term and we thought things would be
a little bit better. How do you see things kind
of playing out this time next year when we're at
election time.

Speaker 19 (01:24:26):
As I said, and we've talked about this before on
this program, that you know, we sit and look at
the big picture factors and say, actually, there are some
things out there, some big forces at work that should
be lifting the New Zealand economy. And the primary ones
are that commodity prices are at high levels, dairy prices
are at higher levels. That's a really positive terms of

(01:24:46):
trade shock that's been delivered to New Zealand that you've
got a trade surplus at the moment. The agricultural sector
is doing quite well. Is really the short of it.
That tends to eventually feed through to activity in the
cities as well in terms of a bit more spending.
It just takes a bit of time for to feed through.
And then the other big force that's going to be
helpful is that interest rates have already come down by
two hundred and twenty five bases points, and I think

(01:25:07):
as people start to realize that there's not that perhaps
not that much more easy to come through, they'll start
to roll off fixed their five year fixed rate mortgages
and then start to choose to do a bit more spending.
And so we've got both those forces sort of in
mind when we're thinking that growth is actually going to
have a bit of positive momentum running into the second
half and into next year.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
So at the moment, obviously the consumers are not feeling great.
There are worries about inflation expectations. You know, the expectation
is it will take up again. Do you think that
will just dissipate as we start to feel att bit
better about things.

Speaker 19 (01:25:39):
I think the primary driver of the lifted inflation has
been things that are sort of short term factors. Food
prices have risen a bit, and I think you've seen
that come through as you're describing into inflation expectation surveys.
But I think the other force at work on the
inflation front is going to be a trade diversion. So
you know, the global trade developments are going to lead

(01:25:59):
we think least to China leading needing to export a
lot more of its manufactured goods to other markets that
aren't the US. And one of the one of the
features is going to be that we're going to see
more manufactured goods showing up in Australia and New Zealand.
And we think that's going to be something that puts
downward pressure on inflation in the coming quarters, so over

(01:26:19):
the coming period, and so that should sort of start
to dissipate some of the inflation pressures a bit and
give people a bit more spending power.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
So do you think come this time next year we
are feeling better off, like materially better off enough to
want to re elect the slot.

Speaker 19 (01:26:35):
We should be The New Zealand economy should be in
an upswing. That's what we think. And I think, you know,
the other way to square it away would be if
you don't get quite as much of an upswing and
the inflation numbers do start to come down, well, then
the RBNZ may very well have more scope to lower
interest rates for them. I mean, we've only got one
more cut in for the RBNZ in our central case,

(01:26:56):
but if it turns out the economy is weaker, they've
got more scope to low to lower things, to lower rates.
I think you know that's going to be Those are
going to be the two forces at least we've got
that we've got in mind, will lift the economy running
into next year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Yeah, were you surprised to see the fifteen percent tariff
slept on New Zealand.

Speaker 19 (01:27:14):
I think we were all watching and waiting to see
what the Trump administration was going to deliver. It's very
difficult to pick what the numbers are going to be
out of the administration. But I guess it is quite
interesting that fifteen percent. New Zealand got a fifteen percent,
Australia ended up with a ten percent, and so that's
that's been an interesting feature, but it was very difficult
to predict what those numbers were going to be. Like,

(01:27:35):
I mean, the key feature we're pointing out is both
countries have actually got you know, comparatively low tariffs into
the US, and both countries have a fairly limited exposure
in terms of their direct sales into the US market anyway.
So we are countries that are mostly tied to the
growth story in Asia, and what happens in China matters

(01:27:56):
more than you know, what happens in the US in
terms of the growth story for Australia and for New Zealand,
and China's got more scope to pull levers and they
are delivering more incremental support for their growth. So that
should mean that, you know, I think the biggest effect
on Australia and New Zealand is actually going to be
the disinflationary impulse, the inflation coming down because we get
lots of cheap manufactured goods showing up in our markets

(01:28:19):
in over the coming period.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Not half bad, Hey, Paul, as always really appreciate talking
to you.

Speaker 9 (01:28:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Paul Bloxham, agspec's chief economist. Nineteen away from seven.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Heather do p cllen Heather, I have a pet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Peeve, as it turns out, a pet peeve of mine too.
Hither I have a pet peeve. I'm a drinker of
alcohol free beer. Every time I go to the supermarket.
Brackets walworths I must be approved. I'm seventy four. I
have challenged them. I've been in touch with head office.
But their explanation is it's beer. Obviously they can't change
their software. Furthermore, anyone of any age can go and
buy Vanilla Essence, which is brackets forty percent alcohol. Would

(01:28:52):
love for you to follow up, mate, this is do
you know what is? I get bothered by this every
single time. So if you go and buy something like
alcohol free Join or something, you get exactly the same
treatment they get. Ah, ye have ID and you're like,
what the hell do you need ID for? I ain't
gonna get drunk off. This is gonna do nothing to me.
I could just drink water, it'll be the same. I
could drink a Coca Cola and with the same it's

(01:29:13):
alcohol free you numpty. But for some reason, and is
this not an example of how stupid humans can be?
Humans can be stupid, can't they? There's no alcohol in it?
What are you doing? But because it's in that bracket
and it might be a gateway drug because you might
get into your alcohol free beer and then you might
want to drink your real beer. Let's see gateway drug.

(01:29:35):
I just can't get around it. I just can't get
around how stupid people are. And honestly, if you're one
of the people, don't even start. Don't even text me.
Don't text me about this, because if you're one of
the people who wants to make an argument for this,
all I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put. I'm gonna put.
I'm gonna retype your name into the system here and
I'm gonna guess it's Mareene texting you here that I'm
gonna go Maurene brackets stupid because there's no justification for

(01:29:56):
this anyway, Listen on to some happier news. You know
how we always free out about Test cricket and we go, oh, geez,
the days of Test cricketers. It's just that you know
they're numbered. No one's going to watch the five day
format when they can just watch a T twenty get
smashed around the park four hours and be happy with
it worth Apparently there's a piece in The Economist about this.

(01:30:16):
We have been talking about the death of Test cricket
since the birth of Test cricket. You've always been talking
about it. But how about this in some respects is
the economists, the five day format is better than ever. Actually,
at the moment many players are adopting the aggressive batting
that they use in T twenty, which improves the spectacle.
Most still consider tests the pinnacle of cricket, producing feats

(01:30:37):
of endurance that T twenty cannot. Even youngsters who watch
T twenty today may gravitate towards the longer version in time,
just as those who listen to pop music can come
to enjoy opera in later life. Here here seventeen away
from seven, approaching.

Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
The numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
It's Heather Duplice Ellen with the Business Hour and maths
for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
That be hither we bought alcohol free bea at New
World and they told us it wasn't a good look
if youngsters were buying BA from them. Thank you, su
fourteen s stupid fourteen away from seven. Indo Brady, UK
correspondent with US evening Inda.

Speaker 5 (01:31:14):
Hello, Heather, great to speak to you again.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Do you agree with Nigel Farage that the cops need
to reveal the immigration status that has been charged with rape?

Speaker 5 (01:31:21):
No, I don't actually look. The rules are the rules
and the law is the law, and it's been the
same here for over a century. If someone is charged
with an offense, the media are told, they're given the name,
they're given the age, and they're given the address, and
they're given what they're charged with. That has been British
court practice for decades upon decades. Now what is happening here.

(01:31:45):
We've reached the situation where twenty five thousand people have
come across in dinghies from France so far this year,
twenty five thousand. Now they are mostly young men aged
eighteen to thirty five, young men of working aid, which
that is the majority of the twenty five thousand. What
we've seen happen in the last couple of months there

(01:32:05):
has been a sex assault sexual assault on a young
girl in Epping in Essex, and then last month there
was the alleged rape of a twelve year old girl
in a town called Nuneaton in Warwickshire. Two men have
been charged in connection with that. Now it transpires that
all of these men being charged with those offenses have

(01:32:26):
come across to the UK. In these dinghies, the anger
is palpable. People are extremely, extremely concerned for their safety
of their children and their families. Forage has waded in
and says from now on police should be more transparent
and if these illegal asylum seekers coming to the UK

(01:32:47):
are being charged with sexual offenses against children, their immigration
status should be released to the media. It's quite a
fibrile atmosphere here. I must say.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Okay, now you say the police never do this, but
do you remember there was the chep in May who
drove his car into the crowd and the UK police
identified him as white.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Yes, So they did that for fear that there would
be riots if someone discovered that he wasn't white. Or
social media and we've had these people go on social media,
like the Southport attacks last year when those little girls
were stabbed to death, a tragic, terrible thing. People go
on social media, make all sorts of claims and it
goes viral. So I think the police. Yes, you're correct.

(01:33:29):
Police came out very quickly and said that this was
a white male from the local vicinity.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Yes, but so for that reason, because they've done that,
Nigel Farage has now got a case, isn't he in
which he says you can. He could argue you do
it one time, you should do it all the time
because they've broken their own convention.

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
Yeah, but look, join the dots up here, Heather, And
it's not a massive leap to see that. If police
come out and say, oh, thirty two year old man
charged with the alleged rape of a twelve year old girl,
and by the way, he came here last week on
a dinghy from France, you can see what's going to happen.
You know, asylum hotels were already seeing protest planned for
this weekend outside these hotels. Starmer needs to get a

(01:34:07):
handle on this. Look, who better than a lawyer, but
he I'm just pointing this out. This is a ticking
time bomb. People are very very angry.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
I totally agree with you in the now. What does
he need to do?

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Well, we need to stop these dinghies coming across from France.
I mean, out of all the political rhetoric. I heard
a vox pop from a man in the street the
other day on the news and this was just a
random guy in Essex and he said, don't tell me
that we could defeat Nazi Germany and we can't stop dinghies.

Speaker 4 (01:34:39):
Coming across from France.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Yeah yeah, And I was.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
Like, wow, you know, if you ever want to put
a situation in one sentence. He has absolutely got a
point these dinghies. The French need to make it illegal
for anyone to be using a dinghy on that nine
kilometer stretch of beach. And then they need to say, okay,
let's have British police officers here pro all that beach
and each officer has a pen knife and as soon

(01:35:02):
as you see a dingy, pop the dingy, and that
these these gangs that are stealing so much money and
living amongst us in this country. It is outrageous.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
Yea Hey, this book about Prince Andrew is fascinating because
it's now claiming that Jeffrey Epstein sold information about him
to the Mossad and guys like that, is there any
truth to us?

Speaker 5 (01:35:24):
Well, look, Andrew hasn't commented, and he won't comment because
he doesn't leave the house anymore. As far as my
information is, he goes horse riding in the grounds of
Windsor Grade Park three days a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Week and that is it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
He sees his children, he sees his ex wife who
he still has live with, live with, and that is it.
It would not surprise me. But the question I would
have is what information was Jeffrey Epstein's selling intelligence agencies
like Mossad and like Colonel Gie Daffi's libbyan secret service
about his friend. Apparently he viewed Andrew as a useful

(01:35:57):
idiot who opened a lot of doors. Now we know
the allegations against Andrew, we know the extent of the
friendship with Epstein. I think we know a percentage of
the extent of the friendship with Epstein. But what information
would you have been selling to hostile foreign intelligence services
who certainly don't have the UK's best interests at heart.

(01:36:18):
I think when we eventually hear the whole scope of
what went on, I think jaws will drop.

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
Oh Indo, what a tease, Thank you so much into Brady,
UK Correspondent. Nine away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
It's the Heather Too per Se Alan Drive Full Show
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Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
It sicks away from seven. Gosh, I'm having to do
some epic maths at the moment, just you know, like
seven minus zero zero minus five four. I would make
you on that one yea another geez. I wish I
had an AI and I could just heat it and
it would just say to me, it's sucks away from seven.
It sicks away from seven. That'd be awesome. Anyway, Listen,
I find this fascinating. I read a book called Sapiens recently.

(01:36:59):
A hot friend of mine gave it to me because
she likes to try to make me sound smarter than
I actually am by giving me good things to read,
and then I sound like I know what I'm talking about.
So thank you to Sarah for that. Anyway, So she
brought me this book. But the thing that gripped me
about it was I didn't realize this. Did you realize this?
You've probably got some Neanderthal in you. I always thought
the Neanderthal came first and then we came and like

(01:37:20):
we descended from them. But that's not at all the cakes.
They're completely different from a different species. So it's a
little bit like so where the Sapiens the humans, and
then we had a bit of it. There was a
bit of bonking going on with the Neanderthals, and most
of us have got varying degrees of Neanderthal in us.
It's a little bit like like a horse having a
bit of a bonk with a zebra, do you know

(01:37:42):
what I mean? Like, it's not supposed to happen. It's
it's like cross species breeding. It's not okay, and it
really up ends life to know that you've got a
bit of like caveman in you. Anyhow, scientists have discovered
why Homo sapiens ourselves survived when the Neanderthals and the
other ones who were around at the same time, the
Denisovans didn't because yeah, oh, by the way, we were

(01:38:02):
all around at the same time. It was not like
the Neanderthals were the cave men, and then afterwards we came.
We were all alive at the same time, three different species,
a bunch of others as well. But why is it
that we're the ones that survived and not the others?
They reckon it was a tiny change in our brain chemistry.
We've got a gene that they don't have. They've published
the study and the proceedings of the National Academy of
Sciences yesterday. They took the gene that we've got, They

(01:38:24):
mucked around with the bit, introduced it to mice, and
when they did, the mice were more adept at seeking water.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
Now they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
They say, I mean, you could probably fill in the
blanks there, but they are saying they're not entirely sure
what the meaning of this is, but they think it
may go some way to explaining why the other lots
like the Neanderthals never really got to be in great,
great big populations, and why we did, why we're still
here ruling the planet and making all someome cities and
stuff like that. So anyway, there you go, I'll bring
you more updates on the War of the Species. Fascinating

(01:38:54):
their way.

Speaker 21 (01:38:55):
AT's go Danger High Voltage by Electric six to play
us out tonight. Yes, they have announced this is their
third New Zealand tour in three years, so they clearly
like it down here. They're going to be playing in
Auckland and Wellington in twenty twenty six. They'll be playing
at San fran and Wellington on the twenty sixth of
the March next year, and then again at the Tuning
Fork in Auckland on the twenty seventh of March.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
So I sent this to the girls in the concert club,
the mid three middle aged birds who go out for
a bit of a show and a bit of a dinner,
and I said, shall we go to this? I was
the only one who knew who they were, and one
of my friends came back to me. I sent them
this song. One of my friends came back to me
and said they sound like an adult version of the Wiggles.

Speaker 9 (01:39:32):
I mean, I do.

Speaker 21 (01:39:33):
I've never really understood exactly what's going on with the song,
like everything is going old with the song. It's just everything.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Also their other song gay Bar, I don't know what's
going on with that. Let's go listen to this.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Let this go?

Speaker 9 (01:39:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:39:45):
The thing I'm looking at says they're a fusion of
drop disco metal and New Waven punk so five Johns
Aparently it's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Time though, Ay, I think you're going to go. We
don't want to go to e F searing because that's
boring that we're going to this. See tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
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