Full Show Podcast: 06 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Hither
Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.
Youth Toll said, b.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Good to be
with you for the last Drive show that I'm going
to be doing this year. Coming up today, we've got
David Seymore, the act Party leader, on whether the boot
camps need to be shut down. We've got news that
as many as forty five percent of NCAA students failed
this year's online literacy and numerousy tests. Will speak to
the principles about that and also try to get to
the bottom of the no male handbag situation at the

(00:33):
christ Church bar. Heather Duplicy Ellen right on the boot camps.
If you're looking at the headlines about the boot camp
trial today and these kids running away and one of
them dying in a car crash, and your immediate reaction
to this is to think, oh, that this is a
complete shambles, then I reckon you are looking at this
the wrong way. Same with labor. Labor today saying ah,
boot camps need to be shut down. They are looking

(00:55):
at this the wrong way. What we ask yourself for this. Okay,
what were you actually exting? I mean, these kids who
go to boot camps are not average kids. They're not
like your kids, right, They're not the kind of kids
that you see just wandering around going to school and stuff.
These are really, really naughty kids, the kinds of kids
that most of us don't ever actually get to meet.

(01:16):
This boot camp trial is supposed to be as close
as possible to the final kind of format that the
boot camps are going to be running in, right, which
means that in order to qualify to go to a
boot camp, these kids have to have committed crimes that
would land them in jail for up to ten years,
and not just once, they have to have committed those
crimes twice, two crimes of up to ten years in jail.

(01:36):
So we're talking about things like ram raids and car
theft and stuff like that. So these are really naughty
out the gate kids. Now, were you honestly expecting that
you're going to take ten naughty out the gate kids?
You're going to chuck them in a boot camp for
three months, and every single one of them is going
to come out the other side angelic and never doing
anything naughty again. If you were. You were completely dreaming,

(01:56):
and you need to get real. Flip the way that
you look at this. Unless these boot camps happened, unless
there was some intervention in these kids' lives, there was
a good chance that every single one of them, every
one of the ten, one hundred percent of them, would
end up reoffending over and over and over and over again.
So what we've got at the moment is a thirty
percent failure rate, as in, we've got one dead in

(02:16):
a car crash and two on the run. A thirty
percent failure rate is still an improvement on a one
hundred percent reoffending rate. Do you see what I mean?
And even if as a result of these boot camps,
just one of the kids turns their life around as
a result of the intervention, it's worth it, frankly, If
none of them turn their lives around and all ten
of them end up reoffending, what have we actually lost

(02:38):
in trying? That's not a failure, that's just carrying on
the way it was going to be anyway. As it stands,
these are the numbers. One of them actually has a job,
one of them is in work experience, one of them
is about to get a job, and several apparently are
in education. Now that's an improvement on the way that
it was going to be. So I reckon we're looking
at it the wrong way if we think these things
need to be shut down and it's a failure. These

(02:59):
a very naughty kid. Chances are all of them may
have blips, some of them may have the occasional blips,
some of them may fall off completely and be lost
to us altogether. But at least we're trying. And if
we changed just one life because of a boot camp,
I think it's worth it, because the alternative is to
accept that every single one of those teners carry on
and they're lost to a life of crime forever together

(03:19):
do for sea Alan nine two nine two is the
text number. Standard text fees apply and as I say,
David Siema will be thus after five o'clock on this now.
Food Stuff, speaking of crime, food Stuffs reckon that their
facial recognition trial has been a success. Hey, they've been
running this thing for six months, been keeping an eye
on it, running it in twenty five North Island stores.
They reckon, harm was reduced by sixteen percent and it
prevented more than one hundred serious install incidents including assault.

(03:42):
Now the General Council for Food Stuffs in North Island
is Julian Benfield had Julian hi hever, is this about
what you were expecting?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Well, it was ultimately a trial to you to work
out whether social recognition technology could help keep our people
save by preventing a repeat offendise from doing more harm.
We've seen huge increases in retail crime and we felt
we needed to do more to keep our people safe.
It was a genuine trial. We wanted to learn whether
we could use the technology safely to do so. We

(04:10):
now have the final report from the Child's Independent evaluator
who has found that facial recognition has reduced serious harm
in the trial stores by estimated sixteen percent and has
strong public support justifying the use of the technology.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
So with the nine who were misidentified, were all of
them trespasersed?

Speaker 4 (04:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
So out of the firstly, you know, we didn't want
any misidentifications through this process, but unfortunately there were nine
situations where there was a misidentification. Out of the nine,
there were only two customers who are asked to leave
the stores. In all of those situations, we owned our
mistake and have acknowledged our mistake and apologist drives as

(04:49):
soon as we could. And in each of those situations,
it was a human era. It was a manual failure
and not a failure of the systems. We've apologized to
the customers, and we've looked very hard learnings of those
situations and in polent to training and improve procedures as
a result.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
See one of them, the one that's based on ut
throu is going to fight you guys even further. Ah,
did you see that?

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, it's probably not something I can comment on at
this point in time, but ultimately we know it was
an unfortunate situation, as has been widely reported previously. We've
acknowledged our mistake and apologized and thought very deeply about
the situation and implemented and let's be.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Honest about it, right, Let's be honest about it. If
you're going to ask a couple of people to leave
who shouldn't leave, it's probably worth it to stop one
hundred assaults or one hundred incidents, Isn't it like you're
going to have some this is going to happen.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, And look, this was a genuine trial that we
knew we would learn from we didn't want any misidentifications,
but to give it context, that was you know, nine
situations out of seventeen hundred and forty two alerts, right,
so we got it right over ninety eight percent at
the time that we have learned from it and we
will improve.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, what happens next? So are you guys, Do you
guys get to make the final call on whether you
can actually roll this out across the country or is
that with the Privacy Commissioner?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, So a couple of months ago, at the end
of the trial, we decided to continue using fashier recognition
technology in the twenty five trial stores under the same
privacy and security protocols, and that was based on the
preliminary findings of an independent evaluator at that point in time.
At this stage, we're now waiting for the OPCs to
publish their public inquiry into our trial. We want to

(06:21):
hear what they have to say, so we will review
what they have to say about their inquiry before deciding
on any further use of the technology. But today we
just wanted to be transparent or where we landed with
our final evaluation.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So who gets to make the call as to whether
you roll it out you or the Privacy Commissioner.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, as a business, we have felt that you know
that the harm is so bad that we need to
do more about it. So we as a business made
a decision to continue using.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So you guys get to say you can decide if
you want to do it or not.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, you know, we have decided to use it in
the twenty five trial stores. But we do respect the
role of the OPC. We've worked constructively both before the
trial and then through the trial as they've done their
own wiry, and we've done store visits and had constructive conversations,
and we would like to hear what they have to
say as part of their public inquiry before we make
any further decisions.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Okay, what are you going to do about this brown
onion business?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yes, so we are aware of that situation. I mean,
ultimately it is it is theft, but look, we trust
our customers to do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Noted the evidence would suggest that you shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Look, we haven't. We haven't noticed any unusual increase in
brown onions going through self checkouts. We trust our customers
to be honest, and most people do understand that theft
is theft. And we'll do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, all right, Julian listen, thanks very much, really appreciate
your time. That's Julian Benefield, the General Council for Food
Stuff's in North Island. Heather ninety percent fail rate isn't
a success. Well it is, isn't it. It's more of
a success than one hundred percent fail rate, which was
what was going to happen if nobody did anything at
the boot camps. Hither You're back, Damn. I was worried.
Oh yeah, Marz says he was worried because he thought
when the pregnant lady disappears for four days, it's generally

(07:59):
very very bad news about a pregnancy. You know that.
Don't worry with that. That that that none and none
out in there except let me tell you, when you
have the coronavirus while you're pregnant, blokes, you will never
understand this. And thank God for that, because jeesz, the
winging would be out the gate. But man alive as
that definitely takes that up. But like you if if

(08:20):
normal COVID is like a nine, no it's not, actually
not if normal COVID is like a seven on the
on the of the on the sickness intensity scale, I
would say normal COVID. It's like somewhere are six to
a seven. Do you know what I mean? It's not
that bad. You take it to a pregnancy lady, a
lady with a baby. It's like, I can't even think that straight.
Take it to somebody who's pregnant. Nick minute, you're up
at at eleven.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Oh, that sounds like it's approaching man flu levels here.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
That that's not good.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It is very in fact, it is very close to manfluence.
You will be able, so you will all the blokes
in the world now understand exactly what I'm talking about.
England all out. I'm going to keep you posted with
the cricket and also we need to talk about the
color of the year. This is incredibly disappointing. Sixteen past four.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Who will take the White House results and analysis of
the US election on? Heather Duplessy Alum Drive with One
New Zealand Let's get connected that news talk said, be
sport with DAB, get your bed on RI eighteen.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Bed responsibly Jason Pine Weekend Sport Hosters with US Now Pony. Hello, Hello, Heather,
We've learned to catch I went away for a week
and we started to learn to catch.

Speaker 7 (09:24):
How good I think that was? Is there a correlation here?
Did you manifest them to actually have safer hands?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
What I was doing a last yest?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I was sitting there manifesting it. Hey, but Nathan Smith, Man,
how good is this guy?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Right?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
So he's on his seat. This is a second test,
isn't it. That's it, that's hope we could take it
with four wickets?

Speaker 7 (09:42):
Yep, he went for a few. He got carted around
a bit by Harry Brook, but I don't think he
was the only one who was getting hit to all
parts of the basemin reserved by Harry Brook of a
some player by the way. With a one hundred and
fifteen he got out of England's to eighty. But yeah,
Nathan Smith it's his home ground. What a neat day
for him, you know, to go out on the base
in reserve, in front of his friends and family and
all that sort of thing, and pick up four wickets.

(10:03):
I think if you'd said Tom Latham when he won
the toss and sent England and they'll be out for
two to eighty at a round sort of quarter past
four this afternoon, he would have absolutely taken that absolutely
he would have. So let's hope that now he and
Devin Conway and hopefully not too many others, I can
get out there this afternoon and start chipping away at
that deficit.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Wellington is looking quite pretty today. Is the weather good?

Speaker 8 (10:25):
You know what it's like in Wellington?

Speaker 7 (10:26):
Heather, You are welcome back here at anytime. I know
you're not particularly enamored with our local government, but other
than that, you know, it's beautiful here today.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
How's the breeze because I see some of those Berhuda
carwood trees just swaying ever so slightly.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
Yes, yeah, no, it's a very low It's one of
those like Northerly skiffles that you need occasionally.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
No, no, it's a beautiful day.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
No good.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Actually, I'm pleased for you guys. Now, how do you
feel about Auckland f C taking on the Wellington Phoenix.
I mean it feels like it would take a lot
for Wellington for the Phoenix to beat Auckland f C.

Speaker 7 (10:58):
I think Wellington won the game. I've got them, I've
said all week I think Wellington fish to win the game. Well, look,
I won't be putting anything you know, significant on it.
But but I look at the two sides and say, right,
these two sides are both very good defensively. Auckland if
C haven't let a goal, and in five games Wellington
and only that three and then five games, two of

(11:18):
those were against Auckland, they're good defensively. So you say, right,
which of these two teams has the better tools in
an attacking sense to unpick the other?

Speaker 8 (11:26):
And I think Wellington.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Do you know, I look at a guy like Costa Barbarusis,
Marco rohas a couple of their Japanese imports. Auckland have
been very good at the back, but haven't really cut
teams apart in the attacking third. So and what will
be a tight game, it's not going to be a
four to three, Heather, I think this is a one nill.
So I could say I've got Wellington winning at one
nill tomorrow and I think that's a good narrative to that.
You know, one each both away from home sets up

(11:49):
RBI number three in February pretty nicely.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah, totally, Well, it's in good luck because I still
think it's going to be Auckland. That's Piney Jason Pine
Weekend Sport home. He'll be back mid day to three
o'clock tomorrow, and of course a Sunday hero on news talks,
he'd be here. The honest question, if you're saying that
the rona was that bad, what does that say about
your vaccine and your boosters? Do you know what? Okay,
I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know if this

(12:11):
is a good thing to tell you, but actually, frankly,
I don't care anymore. I care about nothing because it's
December and I've had the virus. So I got I
got myself a baby doctor, right. I decided to shout
out for a baby doctor. Obstatrician went to the obstatrician.
Can they give you like, look, I don't know what
it's like if you just have a standard midwife. But
the obstatrician gave is very thorough about what they expect

(12:35):
from you during a pregnancy. And they've got like week four,
you do this, week eight, you do this, blah blah
blah whatever and it and they were like, go and
get your flu jab and get your potassas jab, covid jab.
Crickets never told me to go get the covid jab,
and I just didn't. I was like, who can be
bothered with the covid JAB? Now, you know, like I've

(12:58):
I've gone a couple of years not got the NUS.
I was taking my chances, so I didn't get the
covid JAB, and that's why I'm so sick, isn't it anyway?
Or maybe I don't know. Maybe if you're an anti vaccy,
I don't know what you believe, so nevermind, will just
leave you to that. But anyway, I didn't get the
covid JAB, But I thought it was fascinating that the
obstetricians advise you to get the potassis, the hooping cough
jab and the flu jab, and they don't tell you

(13:19):
to get the covid JAB. So there you go. Anyway
will fool me because look at me now. For twenty three.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c
Allen Drive with on New Zealand, Let's get connected and
youth Talks.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
That'd be hey, Dan Mitchinson is gonna four twenty six.
By the way, Dan Michenson's going to talk us through
the latest with this New York shooter who killed the
United Healthcare CEO. They've released a photograph of him like
honestly incredibly good looking young man, at least from the
angle that he's taken in the CCTV at at the
hostel that he's staying at. Anyway, there's some he wrote,

(13:54):
he appears to have written on some of the bullet
casings some words that have now caused them to have
some con bercy theories about why he might have taken
this guy out. And there is also divided opinion as
to whether he is an expert shot or not. But
Dan will talk us through it when he's with us shortly.
The color of the year, okay, he was. Okay, if
you obviously don't do this if you're driving at the moment,

(14:15):
but if you are able to get on your phone
or your laptop, just quickly do me a favor and
google this color. Okay, pan tone, you spell that, pan
ton e seventeen twelve thirty, pan Tone seventeen twelve thirty.
That's the color of the year. People. It's brown. It's

(14:37):
like tea bag brown. Do you know, like not the
leaf bit of the tea bag, the baggy bit of
the tea bag. Do you know when you get the
tea bag and you get it out of the little
tea bag bag you can get out of the cellophane,
and you've got your little tea bag, a single used
tea bag, and it's gray, and you put in the
tea cup and then you really just you know, you
get all that goodness out and then you pull the
tea bag out and the bit that was gray is

(14:58):
now brown. That's the color of the year, tea bag brown.
It's like, it's like when you order a latte and
your latte comes in a glass and you've got the
kind of like bleat color at the bottom, and it's
not like nice like a flat white, you know, rich brown.
It's like, well, like that kind of like too much,
like you went to a farmer's house for tea and
he put too much milk in the tea. That brown.

(15:18):
That's the brown of next year, mock a moose. It's
called described as a warming brown hue imbued with richness.
The coffee tone is predicted to dominate the design industry
over the next twelve months. How sad is that? What's
happened to us? Do you remember in the seventies when
everything was like shades of brown, crap brown? That's where

(15:38):
we're going We're going back to brown. Guys. Anyway, Brace
yourself for it. Headlines.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Next, the day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather Duplicy
allan drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected and
news talk z Ben.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Heather, I just looked up that pan tone color. It's
the old fashioned mushroom brown pink tone. It's gross. That's right,
it's gross. Nobody needs that level of misery in your life.
I thought I thought that generally what happened after a
recession or like an economic downturn, is that what everybody
was supposed to do was start writing really funky music
and making sort of you know, like surreal films and

(16:30):
wearing really bright colors in order to try to kind
of pep your life up. Like think the nineteen eighties.
You know, everybody was wearing wild colors and stuff because
the seventies sucked. But so, why we're just come out
of a really hard time, Why we're doing brown. It's
kind of counterintuitive either, it's the sticking plaster color. It
kind of is, isn't it. Nobody needs to be reminded
of cuts on your fingers. Anyway. Listen, Bad News for

(16:53):
the NCEEA results. This year was the year where we
ran the NCAA exams that the kids had to pass
as corequisites, and well, frankly they didn't. No big surprise.
Fifty five percent. Only fifty five percent of students passed
the compulsory numeracy that's the maths test, sixty six percent
percent past the writing test, and seventy percent past the

(17:16):
reading test. As I say, not a massive surprise because
the trials had been really bad and we've basically been
expecting it. But we'll talk to the principles when they're
with us. After five. It's twenty three away from five, it's.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
The world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
The hunt is still on for the man who assassinated
the boss of the health insurance company in Manhattan. The
cops are investigating a hostel that they believe that the
suspect was staying out, and former NYPD Deputy commissioner says
the fact that the suspect was in shared accommodation would
suggest that he doesn't have a lot of money.

Speaker 10 (17:46):
Here's a guy who never lets down his mask or
it takes down his hood, or both at the same time.
So he's committed, he's professional acting in terms of discipline,
but as hard as the operating on a shoe string.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
City of Humma has fallen too. Syrian rebels opposition groups
now controlled two major cities in the country's north. UN
Secretary General Antonio Guterra says this flare up in the
war is a failure by the international community.

Speaker 11 (18:11):
Fans of thousands of civilians are at risk in a
region already on.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Fire, and finally mean one mister Grinch. A bear has
been stealing Christmas decorations in Florida. So the bear has
made a couple of attempts at stealing an inflatable Grinch
from in front of a local family's house. The homeowner
says she was shocked when she spotted the bear on
her security cameras.

Speaker 12 (18:33):
It was literally like climbing at lake trying to unplug it,
and yeah, he took it to the woods. I thought
it was the funniest thing ever. I literally like text
my husband and I like, what is going on? Like
we were taxing back and forth, just rewatching the video
or sending it to all of our family and friends.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
The family managed to get the Grinch back from the woods,
but now it's too damaged to put back on display.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, Mitchinson correspondence with US Now, Hey Dan, Hey, Heather. Okay,
So this guy, we've got some theories as to why
he shot the CEO, and it's basically because of the
engravings on the casings, right Yeah.

Speaker 9 (19:12):
I mean that these these words delay and depos were
found on the live rounds of shell casings. And I mean,
the shooter's motive is still unclear, but uh, CNN's reporting
that the parent company of United Healthcare, which is the
largest insurance company that we have over here, was aware
of threats against this guy. And it's interesting because CEOs

(19:34):
have all types of security around them, and Thompson, as
we saw in this video that has been circulated right
now if you've seen it on social media, he was
out on his own with no security when this happened.
And so it's they're they're they're saying right now, because
this this shooter arrived early, before he was there, it
looks like there was some kind of surveillance going on
and he knew where to be at the exact place
at the exact time.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, Okay. Now the reason that that what was written
on the casings is important is because he written he'd
written deny, defend, deposed delay, and the words delay, deny
defend are the title of a book A and the
book is why insurance companies don't pay claims and what
you can do about it.

Speaker 9 (20:11):
Yes, So that's where they're kind of connecting everything right now,
I mean, and saying that you know this guy is
an assassin, yes, is he a professional? Probably not, because
you wouldn't do something like that. We've also got a
good shot of his face right now. We don't know
if this was before after the assassination, and they may
have some DNA samples too. There was a phone that
was found nearby. There was a water bottle found in
the scene that's shooting that may have belonged to the guy.

(20:33):
And they even think they have a fingerprint as well
that looks like it's pretty well. The fingerprint itself is
a little smeared, but you know, they're still working on
getting some out of the other items.

Speaker 13 (20:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
So some some pretty rooky mistakes, but then some stuff
that he did which makes him look like he might
have known what he was doing as well. Like he
he obviously had a jamming in his gun. First of all,
he surveyed the guy, knew that the guy was there,
and then his gun jammed and he did what's called
a tap wreck bang, which fixes up. So he's not
a no with a gun, is he.

Speaker 9 (21:01):
No, he's not. And you look at that video on
you it's not something that you want to look at.
It's just it's hard not to because you look at
the guy and he looks very professional initially, and he
gives off a number of shots before the gun jams.
Like you said, he fixes that problem in a minute,
and he goes back and he does it again, and
then he you know, he takes off. There was one
witness right there who ran the other ways, and he

(21:22):
witness would at the time, and they're hoping that person
might be able to help identify that or maybe some
of the people that shared that hostel that you were
just talking about in the world wires.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Hey, how are you guys going after that quake?

Speaker 9 (21:33):
I gotta tell you, Heather, I mean I didn't feel
I was right sort of in the middle of it.
It was up to the north of Sacramento. It was
felt hundreds of miles to the south, down in the
Bay Area in San Francisco, but because it was off
the coast here, there wasn't any serious damage. I mean,
this was a magnitude seven point zero, and I mean
there were five million people that were put under a

(21:55):
tsunami warning and that was eventually canceled. But that's something
that doesn't happen very often on the California coast. And
I mean, you had this quick ben inland or in
a more populated areas we've seen before in places like
Los Angeles and San Francisco. I mean, that could have
caused a heck of a lot of damage, and you know,
I don't even want to think about the number of
deaths too. But fortunately it was off the coast and
blew off some steam from the tectonic plates that we

(22:16):
have around here, so hopefully we won't have a bigger
one after this.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Now, what's this business with time limits on coverage and
for the anesthetic that you take if you have sugeri.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
Yeah, I mean there was an anesthesiologists the insurance company
was planning to limit the amount of time it would
cover anesthesia used in surgeries and procedures. This was Anthem,
Blue Cross and Blue Shield, and they said, okay, we're
not We're going to halt this. You're going to have
a limited amount of time that you can do that.
After that, the patient's going to have to you know,
pay for anything additional. Well then a couple of hours ago, boom,

(22:49):
they did a complete U turn on this, and they're saying, Okay,
maybe this wasn't such a good idea. We were trying
to do this because we were trying to cut down
on the strain that providers and patients go through and
and a lot of the costs, and we thought this
would actually save money for some people. But oh, man,
did this Did this give him a black eye? I
mean this they said, this is a whole misunderstanding of

(23:11):
how things work. And no, it was just a really
bad decision by somebody that you know, at the upper
levels of management.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Right, Dan, So this is the last time I'm going
to talk to you for the year, because I've got
to the big dog, the HOSK. Yeah, he's gone on
Hollybobs early because I.

Speaker 9 (23:26):
Got three months here.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Oh JESU, is that all anyway? So he's going on
the Hollybobs. I've got to go into his show, and
so I'm not going to talk to you again. When
do you hit off on the Hollybobs?

Speaker 9 (23:39):
I'm on and off. It won't be until probably towards
the Christmas time, a couple of days ahead of that.
But unlike you guys, we don't get you know, a
month off or six weeks, which I think is fabulous.
We just sort of take it in bits and pieces
throughout the year. So I wish you, you and the
whole family a whole wonderful holiday at Christmas, and I
show Hosking how it's done in the morning.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Okay, Oh, I wish Jeez settled down, lord, go and
have yourself a lovely bit of a summer break. And
well it's a winter break for you, isn't it a
little bit of a break over Christmas down And it's
been lovely to have you on the show this year.
Thank you so much. It's Dan Mitchinson, our us correspondent
on the boot camps and the kids who have scondered,
the two kids have run away hither I'm with you.
One Life Changed is a massive success. I've taught these

(24:20):
kids or kids like these hardcore kids that come from
families where crime is the norm, and what we actually
need is more funding for interventions that work when they're
at school. High schools are not set up to deal
with kids who have significant learning challenges, and so many
drop out because they feel demoralized. Look, here's the thing, Okay,
I think we all accept that when you've got kids
who are this naughty, you need to intervene in their
lives and as early as possible, and actually you should

(24:41):
be the best thing for us to be doing is
social intervention, which is this agency that cuddles cost is
running now, and if they can intervene when that baby
is like literally when the baby is born, that's your
best chance of success. But because we haven't done that,
a boot camp is fine. Go for it, you know,
and seek you bar Low. They recidibust already, aren't they anywhere?

(25:02):
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Speaker 2 (25:09):
Senior political correspondence with us A Barry.

Speaker 13 (25:11):
Good afternoon, and welcome back here.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Though, oh thank you so much, Barry. I'm just so
happy to be here. No, actually am I was getting
quite bored. Hey, Okay, so the boot camps now what's
the situation. What do we know about these dudes have
run away?

Speaker 13 (25:23):
Well, it's incredible, isn't it. As soon as you see
something going wrong, no matter what it is, you've got
the calls for the boot camps to be closed down,
that they don't work, and it's wishful thinking, I think
from the opposition because they were tried in the past
that didn't work very well, but this one and they're
legislating for them. These will be for not the boot

(25:45):
camps themselves, but the procedure will take a year to
get these kids, hopefully back on the straight and narrow.
What happened here was it was tragic that one of
the participants the camp died in a car crash in
terral last week. And there was a tonguey And the

(26:06):
thing that I found interesting it wasn't really explained one
escape from the tonguey despite being supervised by to a
rung A tame Iriki staff, and then another left a
funal that he was staying with later. The transition from
the Youth Justice Facility, which is the boot camp, to

(26:27):
the community phase was always seen as going to be
the most difficult part of the twelve month program. Now,
the second young person who had scondered, as I said,
was living with fun Ow, so he wasn't being supervised
by a rung Atamamriiki but a raung A. Tame Iriki's
Youth Justice boss Tusha Penny, spoke to the media after

(26:50):
appearing before a select committee at Parliament today and said
the death was always likely to be a trigger that
would lead to something like this.

Speaker 14 (26:58):
These events may happen a game. This is the transition phase.
We are dealing with complex, high risk youth offenders. We're
not going to give up, you know, We've got.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
To keep going.

Speaker 14 (27:10):
There is no other option and we're dedicated to seeing
this through. We have already seen a degree of change
in some of these boys that one is an employment.
We have one doing work experience, we have another who's
about to go employment, and we have several engage with education.

Speaker 13 (27:27):
See I think that's great without the boot camps precisely,
and you know, they're being given the opportunity and clearly
the majority of them are taking it and that's what
this should be all about. Rather than people on the
outside criticizing these kids are the dregs when it comes
to offending. You know, like you said, they've got to

(27:49):
commit very serious offenses our age. Between fourteen and seventeen,
the recidivism rate from youth justice residents is between sixty
and eighty percent. That's what it has been and hopefully
these book camps will rectify that.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yees, hey, what did we get out of that meeting
with Australia today?

Speaker 13 (28:09):
Well, not a lot really. It's a bit of a handshake,
way of the flag type meeting. But it's called Ensman it's.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
I don't know why, but it's Australian Australian ministers.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (28:22):
So you had Judith Collins and Winston Peters and the
Australian counterparts at the meeting. Questions were raised and would
be rather embarrassing for New Zealand about the sinking of
the marwan Anui. And it was embarrassing, but Judith Collins
put on a pretty pray faceset that they were very

(28:43):
upfront about it. Of course, they had no choice other
than being upfront. New Zealand wants to be more interoperable
with the Australian defense forces and an agreement to that
end was signed. The Aussies were polite when it came
to defense spending. They've been critical of New Zealand and
the but their minister said that it's not the amount

(29:04):
that's spent, but what it's spent on. New Zealand's spend
is one point one eight percent of GDP for defense,
Australia's is just over two percent, so it's not a
hell of a lot. More on Orcas Pillar two, they
talked about the technology side. Again, New Zealand was pretty
silent on that. But look the two ANZAC defense ministers,

(29:27):
due to Collins and Richard Marles, they were certainly on
the same page when it came to how they see
the Pacific At the moment.

Speaker 15 (29:35):
The strategic landscape is as complex as it has been
since the end of the Secamore War. We are seeing
the rules based order, which is very much in the
interests of Australia but also of New Zealand being placed
under significant pressure in places like Eastern Europe, but throughout
the endo Pacific as well.

Speaker 16 (29:55):
The world is not a happy place. Pacific is not
free of conflict and tension and stress and strategic maneuvering,
and we have to play our part not only to
protect and look after ourselves but also our Pacific neighbors
and the Southeast Asian area.

Speaker 13 (30:16):
See, and that's where August two comes into being really
here though, when it's stalled at the moment talkers, but look,
I think the United States will pick this up and
run with it when Donald Trump comes to power because
it clearly is seen as being anti Jart Barry.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Thanks very much. We'll wrap the political week. That was
with you after six Again, that's very sore. Senior political correspondent.
Just lost a wicket in the crickets so conways out
for eleven. That has us eighteen for one. He was
caught by one of the slips. And we've got no pressure,
came Williamson in seven Away from five.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
Breakfast.

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Speaker 2 (31:30):
Hither I just bought a nineteen seventies brown house hashtag winning.
You are winning and you don't even need to paint
it now that it's the color of the year. By
the way, four away from five shock of my life
to find out apparently YMCA is not a gay anthem.

Speaker 13 (31:45):
Yeah, you know, the one will.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Every time we hear it, we're all like a lovely
gay anthem. No, not a gay anthem. The guy who
wrote it, his name is Victor Willis. He's also, by
the way, the policeman and the naval officer in the
village people. He who is the policeman and the naval
officer and wrote it says, h there are no gay connotations.
And when he wrote out about hanging out with all

(32:08):
the boys, he wasn't meaning what you thought he was meaning.
He was just meaning that they go and like literally
hang out with like literally nothing else. So just hang
out with each other, having a laugh, having a beer,
having a chat, you know, like boys do. Anyway, he
has said any media outlet that still suggests that YMCA
is a gay anthem from January next year, as in

(32:30):
like next month, his wife is going to sue them
since the wife has got a problem with it. Wives
always did the admin as well, so she will sue.
You don't say anything, Okay, listen. I don't know if
you've seen it, but there's been a bit of a
staus in christ Church about the situation about a man
trying to take his man bag in also probably not
a gay thing or anything like a stamanbag anyway, he

(32:51):
has They said no because contraband guns, blah blah blah.
He's upset about it. He says it is an anti
gay thing. So we're gonna find out what's going on.
In twenty minutes. Stay Seamo's with.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
Us next.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
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Speaker 2 (33:17):
Hey, good afternoon. Well, the government's boot camp trial is
under the microscope, with the news that one of the
kids has died in a car crash and two other
kids have run away after his tonguey Labour's now calling
on the boot camps to be shut down entirely. AX
Party leader David Seymour has been an advocate for the
boot camp trial and is with us now. Hey, David,
are you seeing this as a failure of the boot camps?

Speaker 5 (33:38):
No, I'm not. I'll get into the opposition later if
you want to give me a chance, but let's just
deal with this very serious issue. You've had again. Kids.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Go with me.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
You've got eight of them who are actually doing very well.
You've had one who has tragically died in a car crash.
We can't say much more about that, but there is
nothing to suggest that I'm aware of that actually he
was up to anything wrong. He was just called on
a tragic accident, which sadly happens to hundreds of New

(34:10):
Zealanders every year, despite them doing nothing wrong. We've had
another kid who had reoffended, and he's the one who
has definitely done something wrong since entering the course, and
only one that has. That kid was given compassionate consideration
despite being locked up again to go out to the

(34:32):
tonguey of his mate who had died and absconded from
the toungey. Finally, today, another kid who for reasons that
aren't clear, who was outside of the facility. I remember
they're on the kind of home supervision part has broken
his court order and has gone missing over the last
few hours. We don't know much more about that. I

(34:54):
think once you get a practical view of what's actually happened,
the opposition, shall I say, hysterics can be put in
a bit of context. I think it says more about
them than this policy or these youth offenders. And you've
got a bear in mind, you don't get put in
juvie for smoking behind the bike shed. I mean, these

(35:16):
are some of the most broken and sometimes dangerous kids
that there are. I've been to the facility at Parmers North.
I've actually sat down with these kids, and I think
it's a little bit early to say that this program
has failed. I actually think it's a very well. Bear
in mind, there's others who, for example, have started a

(35:36):
barbering apprentice ship and are turning their lives around, and so.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Why do you want to have a crack at the
opposition over this.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Well It's pretty simple here that when I came into
Parliament ten years ago there were people in the Green
Party who maybe not my count tea, but you could
talk to them. Maybe a bit quirky, but well mean
and very thoughtful and often very intelligent. I look at
Tabitha Hall today, miss representing the situation for political gain,

(36:07):
saying that the kid died in a military style of academy,
which is absolutely untrue. And there you've got an opposition
politician who reads the headlines, asked, what's going to give
her the biggest political sugar hit, and then goes out
and spreads misinformation about a vulnerable child who's died. Now,

(36:28):
what does that tell you about the Greens. They don't
actually believe in supporting vulnerable children. They believe in using
them for political purposes. And when she was found out,
she said, oh, I just chose to amplify the voice
of another young person, So she's actually blaming her screw
up on another. So she's actually managed to use and

(36:48):
abuse two children in the course of this. I just
think it's a disgrace, but I'm not surprised because these
are the same people who when the Royal Commission of
Abuse in state care and quiet was released, chose to
politicize it horrifically personally attack Karen Sure, who's actually one
of the people who could well be in those reports

(37:09):
given her background. It shows a politicization of issues that
deserves some maturity. And you know, when I compare that
to the Green Party I used to know, I think
they've got really big problems politically, policy wise, but most
importantly ethically.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah, David, thank you. I appreciate your time. That David
Semo or the act Party leader ever duper Ellen. Right, well,
this is no surprise if you've been following the NCAA
exam results lately, the latest Center of Shaker as well.
So we've got the compulsory numerous the NCAA entrance test,
fifty five percent of students past that, the writing test,
sixty six percent of students past that, and reading, thank god,

(37:47):
got up to seventy percent passing that. Von Quio is
the Secondary Principal's Association President A. Vaughan.

Speaker 20 (37:53):
Hey, how are you?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I'm very well, thank you. I can't imagine your surprise
by this, are you?

Speaker 8 (37:58):
No?

Speaker 20 (37:58):
No, we saw was a little while ago, and it
still makes for pretty depressing reading.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, what do we do about it? Do you reckon?

Speaker 20 (38:09):
Well, it's clear of believers that have been pulled at
the moment. What we've got is those assessments. The majority
of students that we're doing those were year ten, So
we don't have to panic too much right now. But
what we know we have is a literacy and numeracy problem.
We know there's a whole lot of students coming to
us in year nine that are well behind where they
need to be, and we're caught in that awkward situation

(38:30):
where we've got a new assessment regime laid on to
some students who haven't had the benefit of perhaps the
attention that the younger colleagues will get over the next
couple of years as we try and get them up
to speed.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, so are you on board with the idea of
the one hour of reading, writing and maths at the
primary school level to get them ready?

Speaker 20 (38:49):
What I'm on board with is the fact that we
know that kids come to us in year nine quite
significantly behind where they need to be, and we've got
to do something different to what we have been doing.
Otherwise we're going to carry on doing the same thing.
Were the same.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Results that sounds like a yes.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Worn.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
I'm going to take that as a yes. Thank you
very much, appreciate your time. That's worn. Queo Secondary Principles
Association President. I've got to be careful when you're in
the unions, you know, in the education unions, because you
want to say what you want to say, but you
don't want to annoy the other education unions who having
a winge about the same thing. You follow what I'm saying.
It was a little bit of solidartaknosk in amongst there.

(39:26):
I'm talking about the handbag situation shortly, shortly, but first
I'll just bring you up to speeds. Listen, I'm just
gonna apologize right now. Right, there's gonna be there's gonna
be a lot of had cups in this show, if
you we're one hour, one and a quarter hours, and
we've already realized that, right, we're dealing with fuzzy brain
over here. All bits had all baits had a lie
down for a week, isn't she so apologies. We're taking
it slowly, we're making errors. We're trying. So I've got

(39:49):
some good news for you. This is me trying. I'm
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we're coming off a low base, but thirty percent is
reasonably significant and if you're looking, you know, if you're

(40:09):
thinking about paving in driveway projects and stuff like that,
getting fast, because it's a fifty percent increase there. And
what this is a sign of is that people are
finally starting to spend a bit a bit more money
now that they've got the interest rates coming back and
all that kind of stuff. And they also think maybe
it maybe people getting their houses ready for sale, but
that's still being careful with their money. So it's nothing

(40:30):
significant significant. We're not talking about full renaults and rebuilds,
just like a repaint maybe if you like tarting it up,
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after half past five? Now? A christ Church man has
complained about a bar repeatedly refusing to let him in

(41:54):
because he had a man bag on. The man says
that the Rockpool bar's policy not to allow patrons to
bring their bags in its homophobic, but the owner of
the bar reckons that the reason they only let them
in is because people can hide weapons in their bags.
Steve Armitage is Hospitality New Zealand's chief executive. Hey, Steve
H just.

Speaker 18 (42:13):
Am I here in my capacity as Hospitality New Zealand
Sea or because I was the first person you thought of,
who has a man bag?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Do you have a man What kind of man bag
do you have?

Speaker 18 (42:22):
I describe it as a satchel?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Is it like have you got a leather satchel that
hangs sort of had height?

Speaker 18 (42:30):
There's probably faux leather.

Speaker 8 (42:31):
Yes, you know?

Speaker 13 (42:33):
Is this the bag you are?

Speaker 2 (42:35):
You are the classic man bag carrier in Auckland, you know?
So I would describe it slightly dandyish, So yes, we
did think of that. But it is do you make
an effort? Have you had a chat to the spar
about the spony chance.

Speaker 18 (42:49):
Yeah, we have been in touch with them today. I
think the first thing to say is that you news
have the right to put restrictions in place to protect
their customers and staff, but they obviously need to ensure
they're being applied consiststantly, so there's no suggestion of discrimination.
That is not the case here. The issue is about
what might be in the bag. It's certainly not about
the customer, and the venue has been clear as you've

(43:09):
said that it's about health and safety and host responsibility
because they've had some issues recently around concealed drugs and
other contraband, so's there's no suggestion in the venue as
anything other than a very popular, inclusive venue just trying
to do their best to provide a safe environment.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Did they tell you, Steve, what kind of a bag
this dude was trying to bring in?

Speaker 18 (43:26):
No, I haven't had a description of the bag, but
I have had some indication of the types of bags
that have been coming in. Another ones that you'd sort
of associate with gangs, and that the drugs that they
tend to carry around in them.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
So I'm thinking, from my limited knowledge of gangs and
drugs that what we're talking about is sort of like
Louis Veuton little Gucci baggies, you know, little like petite
little purses that the guys like to wear, or the
fanny pack that they like to wear it.

Speaker 18 (43:57):
I would not profess to be an expert in this area,
but yes, that's what I need to believe.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Okay, So you think they made the right call here, Well.

Speaker 18 (44:06):
I think they're well within their rights to have this
policy in place. I think what they need to make
sure is that they've got clear signage and that people
are understanding why they're being refused.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
Entrue.

Speaker 18 (44:16):
My concern was that there was some suggestion of discrimination,
but I'm assured that that's not the case at all.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
No, Steve, Hey, listen, Thanks very much, Go and enjoy
your weekend and get rid of the satchel for the
weekend and just relax at Steve Armitage Hospitality and New
Zealand Chief Executive see hither. If you want to spot
a gang member, just look for the man with the
Gucci bag, the Gucci man bag, and then you've got
your guy. Also, your modern day gang member, because I
think some of us are still stuck in the sort
of seventies, eighties and nineties, where we think that the

(44:41):
real threats to ourselves is the one with real mub
ridden across the face. No, no, no, your modern threat
is the one who comes in all muscles, bulging tight,
little VERSACEI top, you know, just showing off his little nipples.
And then he's got himself one of those little Gucci
bags on the side, and when you open that up,
going to be loaded with cash and contraband five twenty one.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
The name you trust to get the answers you need
Heather duple c Allen drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected the news talk as they'd be.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Heather the guy who shot and killed someone outside that
bar that was Chapel Bar and Poncibi had a man
bag too, right, So I'm telling you that's what you
gotta watch out for, that class the little Gucci bag
five twenty four, which is by the way to say,
don't get yourself a classy little Gucci bag because and
then I'm going to cross the road when I see
you aren't I So I'm gonna be like game. Remember
now you're gonna have to indulge me on this one,
because I haven't been here all week, but I need

(45:32):
to talk about the Supreme Court decision that came out
earlier in the week, because I think it was actually
probably one of the most significant things to have happened
in the last few days. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, I'm referring to the Supreme Court decision
on the Marine and Coastal Area Act, and it was
important mainly because it overturned a Court of Appeal decision,
and that Court of Appeal decision was widely seen as

(45:55):
one of the most egregious cases of courts basically ignoring
what Parliament wanted and just doing what they wanted to
do themselves, because Parliament in this particular case had been
very very clear, very clear that here we could only
claim rights over certain parts of the foreshoe and seabd
and very specific circumstances. And what the Court of Appeal
had decided was that Parliament didn't really mean that. No,

(46:16):
it said that, but it didn't really mean that. So
it was just going to write some new rules and
it's what it did, and it was completely bollocks and nuts.
Everybody looked at it and went, how can anybody think
that this is okay. Well, thank god that the Supreme
Court did not think it was okay. And these guys
are more senior judges obviously, and they came out this
week and said to the lower Court, no, you're wrong,
you erd in that decision, and they set the thing right.

Speaker 9 (46:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Why I think this is important is because this actually
goes beyond this one piece of law.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
This is actually a significant problem we've got at the
moment where the judiciary has basically just gone off on
this really weird tangent where they think that they are
the ones writing laws and they can just ignore what
Parliament wants, and they can call all the shots, and
they act like Parliament is full of a bunch of
idiots and we need to be saved from them. That
the Court of Appealed decision was only one of the

(47:03):
examples of this. It was the most high profile, but
there are heaps of other examples, for example three strikes
where they just ignored the three strikes law in so
many cases, or even more recently, the cases you know
those forty two k c's who wrote the open letters
to the government about the Treaty Principles Bill. They actually
said in that letter, now we're not sure that you
actually can pass the laws like this. Hello, Yes, you can,

(47:27):
your parliament. It's bizarre that the cases even would say
something like that. Anyway. Mainly, the point I'm trying to
make is that the overreach from the judiciary has gone
way too far and has got to stop. It's actually
a real problem for democracy because democracy relies on Parliament
being able to call the shots and everybody just by
going we might not like the law, but that's the

(47:49):
law now. So I'm pleased to see that the Court
of Appeal has been put back in its place by
the Supreme Court this week, and I'd like to see
more of that, Please, Heather do for Seela listen on
another subject altogether, Thank God, somebody said this. Movies are
too long, aren't they? So somebody in the Guardian has
written an opinion piece about this because they I think
they went I don't know whether they actually did bother

(48:09):
to go and watch Wicked part one, but they were
writing about Wicked Part one and they pointed out that
Wicked part one, which means that there's like a part
two as well. Wicked Part one's two hours and forty
one minutes long. It's a very long movie, and then
they went through and made the point that back in
the day, you know, like a classic like Clueless is

(48:31):
have we just lost? Williamson out? Oh we're in big
live pause, live pause, the movies sit, We're We're in trouble.
Williamson out for twenty no, no ball. Are we going
to be saved?

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Hod on?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Am we going to be saved? Forget? Forget all of
the strama. Forget all of the strama. I'm gonna come
back straight after the news and tell you what's the lads,
and we're going to We're absolutely going to talk about
these two long movies headlines next.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in
your car on your drive home. Heather duple c Allen
drive with One New Zealand let's get connected and news
talk as they'd be hiddly.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Christmas, it's the best time.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Of the.

Speaker 20 (49:20):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Do you love it?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I love it. I'm so here for it. Bring on
these Christmas bangers. I'm gonna talk about the movies. We
will talk about the movies. Let me quickly explain to
you what just happened there with Kane Williamson, So Cain
Williamson got clean bold. But then thank god for the
third for the old dumb pie, the old TV for
Sheila and you won't get own who just got bold?
Tom Latham. Yeah, so here we were talking about how

(49:46):
Williamson wasn't out because it was a noble and Latham
just got clean bold. So we're fifty three for two.
So anyway, I will talk about the sports Hitle. We'll
talk to the sports huddle about that very shortly and
after six o'clock. If you're if you're one of these
lovees who thinks that open banking is going to solve
everybody's problems, you're good news for you. We'll get to
that shortly, twenty three away from.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Six, Heather Duplicy Ellen, So we have got the.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Derby tomorrow afternoon. Auckland f C is going to host
the Wellington Phoenix in front of a sold out Mount
Smart crowd tomorrow in the afternoon. Phoenix head coach Young
Carlo Italiano is with us. Now, hallo mate, Hi, how
are you well? Thank you? Are you feeling confident?

Speaker 11 (50:23):
I'm always confident every game I'm going to but there's
always a fear of not performing well, which is always
a good way to keep me in check?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
What do you think? I mean, listen, even if you
I mean, I know that you're going to have a
bias and you're going to have the mixed feelings because
you're the competitor. But if you step back from who
you are and the job you are, the story about
Auckland f C is quite remarkable, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (50:46):
No, I think your parallels probably what where Sydney Wanderers
did probably about ten years ago when they were introducing
to the league. They started, you know, as a new franchise,
and then they snowboard. I think they went ten games unbeaten.
I think it was maybe eleven games unbeating at the
beginning of the season, and then from there they were
able to go and make a couple of Grand finals.

(51:07):
But then they won the Asian Champions League. So it's
great for the league. It's it builds interest, especially for
New Zealand general and the football landscape. So no, it
is quite significant.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
And so where are the West City Wonderings? What are
they called Wi Sidney Wanderers.

Speaker 11 (51:22):
Western City Wonderers?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah, and what's going on with them?

Speaker 20 (51:24):
Now?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Are they any good?

Speaker 9 (51:27):
Well?

Speaker 11 (51:27):
No, they're not too bad. You know, they've had you know,
that success, and I think they've kind of lost their
way a little bit trying to get back to to
the top of the mountain. But that happens with all
football clubs.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
What do you put it down to? How is it
that Auckland lives you've managed to pull this off?

Speaker 11 (51:45):
I think money helps.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
David Church was on with Darnacy this week said that's
basically what's going on here.

Speaker 11 (51:54):
Look, it does help. I mean this year, I think
with the A League in general, there's as you would know,
it's like a salary restricted A league, so you know,
most teams have a small allocation of money that's kind
of been effective for most part because of the TV
distribution deal. So any team that spent money this year
on players and they've recruited quite well, have the opportunity

(52:17):
to do well. So they've signed some very good foreigners
and make some competitive But again, look, I think as well,
when you sign someone like Steve Coriker's coach who's won
a couple of leagues, knows the league inside out, it
does make a big difference.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Right, So what do you I mean You obviously can't
say too much because you don't want to give you
a game plan away, but what do you reckon? You
guys have to do tomorrow to win.

Speaker 11 (52:41):
I'm always happy to give my game plan away, just
no one asks.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
No.

Speaker 11 (52:46):
I think the big thing is, I think the game
is more. It can be played tactically. It can also
be played with the actual emotion and of the actual
derby because you know, it's it's unlike most competitive games
because it's more about bragging, right, so players take that
into the game. And I think when a team defends
so well like that, like Auckland have, I think scoring

(53:12):
and if we'll just score early, it will change the
dynamic of the game and it will be a real
question about whether or not Auckland have any sort of
resilience in their heads.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
They haven't.

Speaker 11 (53:22):
Yeah, they haven't experienced that yet. So I think that
that would be the game plan is you know, it's
to score early. But again I'm happy to take a
one nill win at the death as well.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Hey, well, good luck, enjoy it tomorrow. I'm really looking
forward to watching it as gian Carlo Italiana Wellington Phoenix
coach sixty rations and so that's all right. Ration and
Williams and Williamson is sitting on twenty two for thirty
one and Russians on one. So here we go twenty
away from six.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
The Friday sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst international realty,
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Speaker 8 (54:02):
Henry Glydes a two duckat who's yet to score.

Speaker 16 (54:05):
Next time.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Is in come to Smith hangling and takes off this single.

Speaker 20 (54:13):
He's got a hat, Smith, He's connected it and he's
well out.

Speaker 8 (54:19):
How are you prop, Smith's The cast black stands in.

Speaker 13 (54:21):
The air, high in the air.

Speaker 11 (54:22):
Is anyone underneath it?

Speaker 5 (54:24):
There is, and it's taken plas dr tax a good
catch down there and finally.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Diving to us left sports hudle this evening Andrew Gordy
sports commentator, and Levin a good sports journalist and commentator.
Hello are you too there? You've done good eight Good
to speak, Levina. How are you feeling about the cricket? Well, yeah,
a little tentative.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
I've been a bit peeved actually because I celebrated the
black cap so well over India. It was like such
a long time coming. This was so fabulous and they're
missing all those catches and losing.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
By so much.

Speaker 15 (54:56):
I was like, what are they doing.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I want to celebrate you, be happy for you.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
So at the moment, I'm feeling quite confident about the cricket,
feeling good and they're redeeming themselves, showing atonement to the
fans that loved them so much and adored them after
defeats against India. Is it good?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Is cricket just one of those games where it is inconsistent,
like you could be great and then you just hit
the next week.

Speaker 8 (55:17):
Absolutely absolutely, It's why I love and hate the game
in fact, So no, you're absolutely right. I'm actually I'm
feeling uneasy about the Black Cats at the moment. I'm
pleased that they started taking catches here in this test
and the second test. I'm always reluctant to criticize people
who can't catch because I had hands like a salmon

(55:37):
when I was playing the game. I'm surprised even called
COVID that sort of thing. But yeah, they weren't great
in the field down in christ Hurts so great scene
improvement this time around. But look, even allowing England to
get two hundred and eighty runs, I felt like we
could have got them out for cheaper. And it feels
like this top order is hanging on. And by the way,
did I hear you say sexy Russian before?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yep? Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (56:00):
How do you get away with that woman?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
They're all different? Come on show. Sorry, sorry, Gordy. This
show is all about honesty, and let's be honest about it.
Girls can say things that boys cannot say. And so
I say, I absolutely abuse it is that okay with you?

Speaker 8 (56:18):
And so you should and so you should. No, absolutely fine.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
You want that man who's got glorious hair and that
and that's just and we're only talking about the absolute
top of his head, like when you start working your
way down the body, it's just fantastic, the whole way down. Listen, Levina,
I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable about that.
You probably do not. You're probably sitting there going it's
not okay, Heather, no thing.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
It's a Tahua mark away, lovely hair as.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Well, gorgeous. I mean, jeez, what I would do for
those curls. Anyway? How do you feel about One of
the things that's come up is that that there's been
these fines handed out and docking of points for the
fact that they've been bowling slow overs right. How do
you feel about that.

Speaker 16 (56:55):
Is that actually?

Speaker 2 (56:56):
I mean, is that really we want the game to go?

Speaker 20 (56:59):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (56:59):
It's that's interesting, isn't it. I think there's a lot
of people that I love cricket, and my favorite form
of cricket is Test cricket. I really really love the
five day version of the match and I appreciate it,
but lots of cricket fans that are coming new to
the game are turning to the other versions of the sport,
and I guess if you want to keep the appreciation
for the sport, you need to make sure that there is.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
A time limit.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
And I appreciate the fact that you know you need
to actually get these overs done and dusted. The thing
that I found ironic is that it was David Boone,
who's the head referee, that decided to say that those
penalties would be implemented. And I've watched a lot of
cricket with mister Boone over the years, and the fastest
thing he ever did was head to the pavilion. So

(57:42):
I thought that was quite ironic in that Chams, but
I'm okay with it. You've got to bowl those ninety
eighty five ninety overs and it has to be within
a time limit. But I know that I know the
game is still entertaining Andrew, it really is. But to
keep the fans, especially new fans that are appreciating Test cricket,
it has to be done through a certain period of time.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
Gordon, I think there's a really sensible approach here. I
think the sensible answer here is that slow over eight
fines and penalties are only enforced if the matching's in
a draw after five days. But we had a result
in this match. There were still ten hours of play
to go. So I totally understand why this rule is
in place and why it should be enforced, and I
totally echo your sentiments about speeding up the game and
making it a great product for people to watch. But

(58:21):
if there's a result, the whole reason for it is
null and boards. So I'd like to see those penalties
and fines only inflicted if we go five days and
it's a draw.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
I think that's basically the Ben Stokes argument. Seems like
a fair argument. Okay, we'll come back and just to
take quarter two.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
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Speaker 2 (58:44):
Home on the sports title. We've got Andrew Gordy and Levina.
Good Gordy, listen France canning the AB's game in the
US saying everything has to be played, and then Z
is it a fair call?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Ah?

Speaker 8 (58:54):
Look, is it a fair call? I can understand they
clearly didn't want to do it, and so they've played
the absolute trump card, which is player welfare. No one
can ever argue with player welfare, and neither they probably should,
but I think it's a convenient excuse because they simply
don't want to do it. And look, the trible aspect
is kind of fear they are going over multiple time zones.

(59:17):
But I personally like this idea, and not least because
France have made it clear that they want to send
a second string team out here. And if you're going
to treat it as some kind of exhibition, well we
may as well make an exhibition out of it and
play it over in the US. But let me tell you,
international rugby is going to get pretty damn boring if
every touring team decides to send a B team every
time they travel somewhere. So that needs to change.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I'm so dark on the French Levina that I just
everything I say. I just want to pose me too, mate.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
And the only reason they're saying no, Heather, is because
we actually want to do it, you know. Like Andrew mentioned,
they've already announced that they're going to send an underrated
average team next year. And I mean, I'm not even
really keen on the AB's playing in the States, but
it just frustrates me that the get to call the shots.
That's what annoys me more than anything. And the only
reason they're saying no nothing to do with player welfare.

(01:00:06):
I appreciate them calling the card. It's because the all
Blacks want to do it, so on the right side.
On the right side, we do get another game here
in New Zealand, which is kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
But it's just because we want to do it. Yeah, frustrating, Yeah,
what's up with it? Why are they like this?

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Because we want to do it and they've decided that
it wasn't their idea in the first place, and they're
meant to be touring New Zealand. It's got nothing to
do with player welfare because they're sending an underrated team
that it's because it was decided by New Zealand Rugby
and they're like, hey, vive la France.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
We are French.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
We will be maybe arrogant allowed to say that. We
can talk about here, we can talk about the French
being Argea.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Come on, you've been to France the other day, Levin,
you know what they're like. That's horrible.

Speaker 13 (01:00:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Very recently, yeah, very very recently, and riding on the
wave of a very successful Olympic Games which they hosted
and you just have to duck over to England and
they will tell you we'll host it better next time
like we did in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Twenty twelve is nothing. And going to France sometimes Okay, now, Gordy, Gordy,
I mean, the wine is great and the food is great,
but you do have to feel to deal with the
French people and they've got such an attitude problem. Okay,
sebu Reese. How do we feel about the second discharge
without conviction.

Speaker 8 (01:01:15):
I can understand why people might be upset about this
and feel like he doesn't deserve it, But even reading
and hearing what the judge had to say about this,
I tend to agree it would I think outweigh the
offense that was cause or that he committed obviously so
and it would have a serious impact on his ability

(01:01:37):
to go overseas. It is still a relatively young age
and further his career. And let's face it, I think
the writing's probably on the wall for severu rous anyway,
in terms of his career with the All Blacks and
here in New Zealand, it is probably time for him
to make hay while the sun shines, so to speak,
and head overseas to further his career. And this would

(01:01:57):
have a serious impact on that, and that to be
the case then absolutely that the punishment wouldn't hurt the crime.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
It much sort of feel Levina like, now that he's
gone public and said, okay, I've got a booze problem,
it kind of is like, now we expect you to
behave yourself. If this happens again, you probably actually need
a conviction, would you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Agree, Yeah, it's not the first time it's happened, though, No,
I think you had a conviction in twenty eighteen as well.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
And yeah, calling the.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Cards of the alcohol issues, and yeah, I agree with Andrew.
It's not the sort of you know, you've got kids,
both male and female that want to play rugby and
have idols and look up to players.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
I don't want my kids looking up to him at
the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
So yeah, go overseas and some money, earn your coin
and face the consequences of your actions.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
And now all of us know exactly who it is.
Yeah too, right, guys, listen, Merry Christmas to the pair
of you. It's very early, but it's the last time
I'm going to be talking to you on the show.
So go and have yourself on a lovely summer break
and enjoy all of the good cricket and stuff. And
you know he's hoping we win. Andrew Gordy and Levina
Good our sports huddle eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Red or Blue, Trump or Harris? Who will win the
battle brands? The latest on the US election. It's Heather
Duplicy Alan Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected
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Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Six away from six. I've got bad news for you.
Rations out three off ten balls court so that they
don't have a problem with butterfingers, do they over in England?
They're catching us all the time. Anyway, I've started a thing,
haven't I. This is from Fiona. Just listen to lascivious
old Fiona. Jean Carlos what a delicious voice. You're welcome.

(01:03:31):
You send those texts and I read them out because
you're a lady, So you have permission to be absolutely
just pesting as long as that it's all it is, right,
I'm just gonna be absolutely clear, don't take it any
further than that. I don't want you to be doing
the weird stalking stuff and stuff like that. But you
can just have a little pest and we'll see what happens. Okay, movies,
So as it was telling you before, right, It's an
opinion piece in The Guardian calling out Wicked Part one

(01:03:55):
for being two hours and forty one minutes long, and
the point that the woman was making is fifteen years ago.
She says, we now have movies coming in between two
and two and a half hours that would never have
been that long if they were made fifteen years ago.
Most of the time it's not because the genius auteur
needs that long to fulfill some vision. Most of the
time it does not make the film better. It often
actively hurts the film and my bum on uncomfortable cinema seats.

(01:04:17):
And she points out that you can go watch the
old classic of Clueless and Clueless, which everybody loved and
was a massive smash at the time, one hour thirty
seven and that was enough. You filled your boots in
under one hundred minutes and out you went. And so
I went and had a look at the top. What
was was very loose, these lists and stuff. But the
top movies this year, you would not believe how long
these things are. Dune Part two two hours forty six,

(01:04:39):
Mad Max two hours twenty eight. Inside Out two, which
is for kids, that comes in it under two hours,
is one hour thirty six. Because it's for kids, they're
not going to sit there longer than two hours. The
Substance two hours to twenty one, The Brutalist three hours
thirty five, Holy Anna, The Young Woman in the Sea
two hours and nine, Challenges two hours eleven, The Full

(01:05:01):
Guy two hours and six, Deadpool and Wolverine two hours
and eight, which is two hours and eight too long. Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice came in at one forty five. It's probably that
movie also is so shite apparently that they just had
to cut heaps out, So there you go, you know what. Anyway, Anyway,
so then I was like, oh, got to compare it
to and I think I think they make an excellent point,

(01:05:22):
don't you that the movies are getting too long? Because
I don't know about you, but sometimes the husband will say,
on Afraid to night, should we watch a movie? And
I go, oh, no, I do not know. Do not
have enough awake time to just watch one episode of Gallowstone?
That'll do? Do you not do that as well? Where
you're like, movies now are such a shlip like it's
a marathon effort anyway, So I thought, go and compare

(01:05:42):
it to some of the best movies ever made. In
the Loop. If you haven't seen In the Loop, well,
I don't know what I can say to you, but
that's only one hour forty six and it's awesome and
obviously the best movie of all time. Love actually, come
on argue against me. It is the best. It's got everything,
including the crying scene. That's two hours ten that's a

(01:06:05):
little long. But because it's so many stories, I think
we're gonna cut them some slacks, you know what I mean.
And it's December and I've given you the idea, and
absolutely yes, you can go watch Love actually tonight. Why
not let's talk about open banking next News Talks they've been.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
The We're Business Insight, the Business Hour, We're the Heather Duple,
c Ellen and my hr on news talks.

Speaker 8 (01:06:33):
That be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Even in coming up in the next hour, Peter Lewis
is going to talk us through how they're going in
South Korea with the impeachment of the president following the
Marshall law situation. Barry Soper will wrap the political week
that was, and Gavin Gray out of the UK as well.
It's seven past six. Now if you are one of
the people who firmly believes that open banking is going
to fix the whole banking system, I've got some good
news for you because there's a firm called Revolute that

(01:06:57):
has applied to become a registered bank in New Zealand
and open banking is what they do. Massive university banking
expert Clear matthewsers with us. Now, Hey, Clear, Hi Heather.
Are they a game changer?

Speaker 6 (01:07:10):
Well, it all depends where you sit on the open
banking issue. As you suggest, potentially they are, but the reality,
as they are already operating in New Zealand, all the
license would mean is that they would be operating under
slightly different regulations and would be able to use the
name bank, so they'd be able to describe themselves as
resolute bank and talk about what they do as banking,

(01:07:32):
which they can't do at the moment, despite the fact
that what they are doing is effectively banking.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Yeah. I want to come to the open banking thing
with you, But on them actually being able to call
themselves a bank, that would probably force some people at
least have some kind of, you know, a clear hurdle
in their head.

Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
Wouldn't they wouldn't it Absolutely, It's a perception thing as
much as anything else, because they would be then a bank,
just like Kiwibank or Westpac already of the other banks,
whereas at the moment they have to describe themselves accurately
as a non bank financial institution. It's a bit of
a mouthful and it just carries a slight dodgy for

(01:08:10):
the public. Yeah, so I hope it doesn't sound dodgy,
but it doesn't sound quite as good as a bank.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah, that's a better way of putting it. Clear, This
is why you're the expert and I'm not. How do
you write their chances of being able to become a bank?

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
Well, one would assume that having made the decision to
apply that they've checked what the criteria and made sure
they've got all their ducks lined up so that they
will meet the criteria. But it isn't a fad to complete.
It is something. It is an application. The reserve bank
has to be satisfied that they do meet all the
criteria and that they are suitable to be a registered bank.

(01:08:44):
So I would anticipate that they would get their license,
get their registration, but it's just not a guarantee.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Okay. So on the open banking thing, are you a
skeptic on it? I'm a skeptic, are you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
I am rather a spectic.

Speaker 6 (01:08:59):
I understand how it operates largely, but I haven't yet
seen the benefits. And more importantly, I haven't actually seen
a model that makes it clear how it's going to
generate a sufficient profit or sufficient revenue for it to
be profitable for those that are providing those services.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
And do you believe that it is going to be
the game changer that you or I need in order
to I don't know, switch banks willingly and bring the
profits down and change everything.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
Yeah, I'm not persuaded that it's going to be that
sort of game chainment. It will be good for some people,
and it will make a difference. I'm struggling to see
that it will be a game changer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Yeah, okay, Claire, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Have
a lovely weekend. That's doctor Claire Matthews, who's a massive
university banking expert. Hither I just text my husband, who
I know is listening to your show Love. Actually is
tonight's movie Good from You? Good from You? I've already
I've Oh, oh, I thought we lost another week. I
don't worry, and no, it was just a replay. Honestly,
it's just miserable. Every time I look at the TV.

(01:10:02):
She just gets sad. We're seventy four for three. Don't
worry about looking at the TV.

Speaker 18 (01:10:08):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Oh we did just lose one. I just now told
you Williamson thirty seven. Oh look, what can I say?
I look at that just and honestly, as something is
going on. I just happened to look at the TV
every single time we lose a wicket. Or maybe the
truth is I'm actually only half concentrating on what I'm
doing from a job, and i' make she's just watching
the cricket and that it's not a bad lifestyle. I'm

(01:10:31):
gonna be honest with you anyway. I already let my
husband know. I said to him, we're watching Love actually
this summer season. We're going to do it because it
is a good time and some and sometimes as a woman,
you just need a bit of rage. And you fill
your cup of rage when you watch that scene where
Emma Thompson pulls out that box and she's expecting to
get jewelry because she saw it in his coat, and

(01:10:52):
then she opens it. It's Joni Mitcheel's CD, you know
what I mean? And then she goes into the room
and cries, do you know what I mean? And you're
just angry for the next year until you can fill
your cup again with love. Actually, So there's a benefit
in that just reminds us, which just reminds us to
be on the lookout as women, doesn't it. Hither are
a few decades back there was a movie about the
Battle of Waterloo which included meal breaks because the movie

(01:11:13):
was longer than the actual battle. It was over eight hours. Lord,
what a panache, And it has just been rubbish like
what it would have been is I haven't seen that
because geez, I mean, I don't even get like two hours.
Ten at love actually is my absolute limit. So eight
hours for a war movie I'm absolutely not gonna do.
But I guarantee you what it would have been would
have been just lots of shots, like lots of shots

(01:11:35):
of men firing guns, just like Epic all the time,
and the boys watching it had been like that was awesome,
and it really is not awesome at all. I can't
believe I'm telling you this, but apparently there are people
who are prepared. You know that City to See Bridge
in Wellington, you know the one that runs between If
you know Wellington, you'll know the one I'm talking about.

(01:11:56):
If you don't know Wellington, trust me, you want to
google this because of hideous. You want to google it
so you could go, wow, who would build something that ugly?
Thank God we don't have that in our city. It's
called the City to Seabridge and it's the one that
runs from Civic Square over Fire Report Lagoon over to
the other side to the INSIDEX Ticker building. And it's

(01:12:17):
almost like some sort of a school project where they've
set to the kids, Hey, kids, what we want you
to do is draw a bridge that is eco friendly.
So you're just gonna make it out of stuff that
you find on the beach. Okay, so like lots of
like drift word and stuff like that. And we wanted
to have a real pagan theme to it, okay, so
lots of like stars and moons and birds with long

(01:12:39):
necks and weird stuff like that. And what they've come
up with is the City to Sea Bridge, which just
looks like some dystopian fantasy. It's hideous. Anyway, The council
yesterday decided that they were going to demolish the thing
because it's now apart from being physically appalling, like it
actually makes you want to work because it's so ugly
like it's apart from that, it's now also an earthquake risk,

(01:13:03):
which more than qualifies it for obviously being demolished. Unfortunately,
the demolition is going to cost about fifty million bucks.
It's unfortunate, but anyway, what you know, the things you
have to do to beautify a city. The city Council unanimously,
by the sounds of things, voted get rid of the thing.
There are people out there who are prepared to put
their own money behind saving it. It's completely nuts. There
are lawyers, developers, engineers, and architects who hands down seem

(01:13:29):
to have the worst taste in any kind of esthetics. Architects,
they love ugly things. These four groups of people have
decided that they are prepared to take a judicial review
to save the bridge. Can you believe it? If you
don't know, If you're like, oh, you being a bit harsh,
go and google it city to see bridge and then
come back to me and tell me that I'm not
being harsh. I would not put a dollar towards saving

(01:13:51):
that thing. Frankly. In fact, I think you could just
save the demolition costs by going full pag and and
just sending it alight, just burning it in a big
city thing, a big event where we all just light
the thing up and say goodbye to it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Hither. I remember that bridge when it opened. We drove
under it and my husband said, oh, it looks like
someone has just cut up a load of firewood. It
was just bits of chainsword would that? Yep, that's pretty
much what it is.

Speaker 8 (01:14:30):
Yep. So thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I'm not alone in feeling like this. Eighteen past six. Hey,
I'm Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, rapping the political week
that was Barry, welcome back, Hello again. Have you got
over your love affair with Boris Johnson? Because that was
a remarkable turnaround, wasn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:14:45):
Well, it was a bit of a turnaround, I've got
to say. I mean I never really held a view
one way or the other of Boris Johnson. I always
felt that he was a bit of an entertainer. He
was at one stage very popular being the Mayor of
London and then going on to lead the Conservative Party.
But as Prime Minister he cooked his own goose during

(01:15:06):
the COVID and his partying ways and you know, was
forced to resign.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Don tell us how he managed to get you to
flip from basically thinking he was a waste of space
to loving him. And I'm asking this on behalf of
every single politician in New Zealand who wants to be
able to win you over. Ha ha. What does it take?

Speaker 13 (01:15:25):
Well, look to sit down and talk. And I've always
said politicians should know the media, They should get to
know the media, and they should understand the media. And
watching Boris Johnson on stage at the massive lunch at
the Quarters, eight hundred guests paying between five hundred and
two thousand dollars a plate, you know you would expect

(01:15:48):
something pretty special.

Speaker 8 (01:15:50):
To me.

Speaker 13 (01:15:50):
It was a very ditthery type speech all over the place,
and when Paul Henry tried to interview him, couldn't get
a word in edgeways. And when I met him the
following day at a very small lunch, I had to
talk to him. And the thing that I found absolutely
amazing was on meeting me, he said, I heard you

(01:16:11):
on radio last night. You were criticizing my performance yesterday.
And I said, well, yes I was, and he said,
well I've heard words. And then we went on to
have a chat and I got to know him reasonably
well as you can over a bit of a yarn.
And I said to him, I said, you know, basically,

(01:16:32):
you're a journalist. You like telling a good yarn, don't you, Boris,
because he was a journalist at one stage in his life,
and he admitted yes, he said, I am a journalist
at heart, and so it's easy to get along with
somebody of your own milk if you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
Like, yeah, because you get on with other journals well
at yeah, well most of them. Hey, what was Chris
Ppkins thinking ruling Winston Peters out? This is the dumbest
thing that I have seen in quite a long time,
because that leaves him two players that he can form
government with the Greens and the Maldi Party.

Speaker 13 (01:17:06):
Yeah, and it wasn't picked up really by the media
at all. They looked at other things like the building
of Dunedin Hospital again at the full cost of over
three billion dollars where they're gonna get the money from
her nose and getting out of Orcus.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
If we go into what do you make of ruling
out Winnie Pete, he.

Speaker 13 (01:17:24):
Said that essentially he ruled him out when he was
Prime Minister and said that was the best thing he'd
ever done, which he didn't say he was going to
rule him out next time, but he indicated certainly that's
what is what would happen.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Oh, so it's not a firm ruling out.

Speaker 13 (01:17:40):
Well, he didn't say as much. He said it was
the best thing he had done. So if it was,
it would be very hard then to reverse that and
say no, I'm going to work with Winston Peters. He's
making a big mistake because painting himself into a corner.
He really firmly believes clearly that this coalition is going

(01:18:00):
to be a one term government and he'll be Prime
Minister again at the end of this government. I think
he's wishful thinking ruling out Winston Peters going with the
Moldi Party. Imagine it. I mean, you talk about a
coalition of chaos that will be a coalition of calamity.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Yeah, yeah, I just think I agree with you. It's
a big mistake. That Supreme Court decision, I think is
one of the most significant things that happened this week.

Speaker 13 (01:18:26):
Yeah, and interestingly, again the media didn't really pick up
on it. You know, I thought there would have been
a public outcry that here was two Court of Appeal
judges that thought the legislation that was passed in two
thousand and one set the bar too high for maldi
on the foreshown seabed issue, and so they set the

(01:18:50):
bar too high. So they decided that the Court of
Appeal was wrong the two judges on it, and they
going back to it being harder than it was decided
by the court. So it's a big decision and of
course the I would imagine Malory will be very disappointed
with this. But we've barely heard a squeak. Certainly we

(01:19:12):
haven't heard much from the Maldi party about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Well, I agree with you that it's kind of interesting
that it hasn't got enough attention, because I think this
cuts to the heart of something quite significant going on
at the moment, which is this battle between Parliament and
the courts for supremacy, and the Supreme Courts basically just
come down on the side of Parliament, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:19:30):
Well, it has and of course Parliament is the superior
court in the land, and you know the courts are
there to not to interpret law, but to administer law
that has passed in Parliament. And clearly you've seen some
judges not going down that track but interpreting the law

(01:19:50):
as they see it. Well, I'm sorry. If you've got
law makers, you've got to abide by the laws that
they make.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
To right, Barry listen, thanks very much, appreciate it, Barry,
so for seeing your political corresp here. The stop looking
because we lost another one. You I right, Pip, thank you,
we did. I looked up to catch Daryl Mitchell being
caught for six, so that's happened as well, so we're
seventy nine for five. Paul Ridley Smith has just sent
me a really interesting text actually on why we shouldn't
demolish the bridge and I actually this is Wellington, by
the way, I say, we like I still live there.

(01:20:18):
Thank god I don't, because otherwise I would be paying
for that bridge. I will get you through across that
very shortly six twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Three, crunching than others and getting the results. It's Heather
Duplessy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to my HR
the HR solution for busy smy's on News Talks FB.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Here's the text on the bridge. Heather, You're so so
wrong on the city to see bridge. It's not earthquake
prone at all. That's just counsel and Tim Brown nonsense.
It may be ugly, but forty seven million dollars for
a bankruptcity to demolish it and put in a pedestrian
crossing is only something that Wellington City Council could dream up.
That's from Paul, who actually incidentally used to be my neighbor.
And Paul is a very smart guy and actually believe him.

(01:20:57):
He's completely right. Here's the alternative though, and I'll what
this is gonna sound shocking to you, but it's actually
not a stupid idea. Let's accept that the bridge is
earthquake prone and that if there was an earthquake while
somebody was on the bridge they would die. Just leave it,
leave the bridge. Just be like, Okay, someone's gonna die
on the bridge one day, so who cares? Because people thought, like,

(01:21:17):
there's a warf just down the road in Wellington where
about eight or nine people have fallen off and drowned.
People die on the road just down there from the bridge,
So there's like things killing people in Wellington all the time.
On the odd chance that there is an earthquake and
the bridge happens to kill someone, I think maybe we'd
just be like, look, don't walk on the bridge in
case there's an earthquake. The rest of you walking on

(01:21:38):
the bridge, if there's an earthquake, you're gonna die and
put people just like, leave it to people to make
that decision. I'm fine with that now. Anyway, I haven't
been here for the Spotify things, so I opened up
my Spotify rap Rap of the Year to see what's
been going on? And I have listened to Spotify this
year for forty thousand minutes. I've listened to two nine
and forty nine songs. I thought it was pretty good.

(01:22:00):
My top song is this one. That's right, Yeah, yeah,
that's again. That's what my life is like. Do it again?
Ends Mamma, won't pop a dumb and you can add

(01:22:22):
it how much I have streamed this song ninety times.
All top five songs are Wiggles songs. Apparently you describe
discovered it on the eleventh of May and it hasn't
stopped since then. This is such a musical representation of
a mother's life, isn't it like? Even on Spotify. I
have lost my identity. It's been scrubbed and replaced by

(01:22:43):
my child. My body's been hijacked by the second child.
There's an alien side my body right now for an
object in there and forever from now on. At Kindy,
I'm not Heather, I'm Iggy's mum Ah.

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Speaker 15 (01:23:14):
Gathering around the phone.

Speaker 10 (01:23:16):
Just that'sposed like a hated Pasha Reacher and the worm
of folks are no.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
What was the lat sort of the cricket for the
day New Zealand is eighty six for five. So let's
hope that we have a better day tomorrow than we
did today and somehow not going to hold my breath heither.
My kids have never heard of the Wiggles. Ac DC
is perfect for children. Great beat the rock when they're
awake and the rhythm helps them sleep when they're tired.
Now you tell me James, great tip. Thank you twenty
three away from seven and Peter lewis our Asia business

(01:23:46):
correspondence with us now at Peter, Hello, Hello, So where
are we with the impeachment proceedings?

Speaker 21 (01:23:52):
Well, the votes was due to be tomorrow, but right
now there is a meeting going on between the leaders
of Present Yun's People's Power Party and the president's himself.
It looks like the leader of the president's own party
is going to vote for him to be impeached, or
he can't himself, but he is calling for his own

(01:24:13):
MPs to actually vote for the impeachment because he says
there is a risk that President Yun could try and
impose martial law again. Now, the deputy Defense minister, who's
taken over since the Defense Minister himself resigned, denies that's true.
But the leader of the ruling president's party is saying

(01:24:35):
he had evidence that President Yun planned to arrest and
detain MPs on the floor of the Assembly on Tuesday night,
and he says there's a real risk that this could
happen again, and this is a president who absolutely needs
to be removed from power soon to protect democracy in

(01:24:55):
South Korea. To win the impeachment vote, the opposition parties
don't have enough votes on their own. They need eight
members of the governing party to cross the floor and
vote with them, and it was thought originally that they
wouldn't be able to get them to do that. But
now after this intervention from the head of the ruling party,

(01:25:19):
it seems much more likely that the impeachment vote will succeed,
and I think if it doesn't, we could well see
protests and demonstrators out on the streets over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
How on earth would he have justified this move to
himself because it looks I mean, it's such an outlandish
thing to do.

Speaker 21 (01:25:38):
It is, and it's hard to imagine what he was
thinking at the time. I mean, this is a president
who is deeply unpopular. He only just scraped into power
in the general election. He won by about three quarters
of one percent of the votes. He's a lame duck president.
He can't rule because the opposition parties control Parliament, so

(01:26:03):
many of his measures failed to get through, and he
in turn vetos any measures proposed by the opposition party.
So if there were to be a general election again,
it's quite possible that he would be voted voted out.
The only thing I can think maybe was going through
his mind was he must have known that MPs could

(01:26:24):
overturn the impeachments, so maybe he thought he could gain
control of Parliament and stop MP's voting. And we've heard
that the head of the Defense Forces that were sent
to Parliament along with his troops only learned about the
martial law declaration on television and when he got to

(01:26:46):
the floor of Parliament he refused to arrest MPs on
the floor. So it could be that President Yun thought
that the Defense Minister and troops will be able to
stop any sort of vote to overturn this, but that failed,
but clearly a totally botched attempt, and the rest of

(01:27:07):
the world in turn looks on a ghast. I mean,
we had martial law in effects for six hours, maybe
the shortest period of martial law in history. But nevertheless
it looks totally chaotic, not the sort of thing you
expect to see in a developed economy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Near too right, Hey, explain to me quickly, how is
the EU going to crack down on Timu and Shine.

Speaker 21 (01:27:28):
Well, they're going to start cracking down first of all,
on the exemptions that they get for these small packages
that they're able to send over to the EU. And
this is how Timu and Shine in effect make their money,
because they get around customs checks and various taxes as
they do in the US, by making sure that the

(01:27:51):
parcels are below a certain limits and therefore they don't
get inspected. But the EU says this means that a
lot of things that are really banned in the EU
get through. Things like dangerous toys, for example, are shipped
over because they're below this one hundred and fifty euro
threshold for customs duties. So I think what they're going

(01:28:12):
to do is lower that threshold and try and make
sure that they get to court in this tax net
to try and stop some of these some of these
shipments being made to the EU. Very similar process to
what the US is talking about doing as well with
Timu and Shine.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Very interesting stuff, I really really interesting. Crackdown on it, Peter, listen,
thank you very much and go well, have a good
risk of the year, and we'll check to you again
in the new year. Well at some stage, look after yourself.
It's Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent out of Hong Kong.
Coming up eighteen away from seven new talks. It'd be well, whichwause.
I haven't been here all week, right, I'm just catching
you up on some of the important things. And one

(01:28:51):
of the important things. I don't know if you were
aware of this, but I was very happy to see
this happen. The government has stepped in to sort out
the Marsden Fund messed mess and start forcing basically the
Marsden Fund to start funding projects that are actually worthwhile
to the country.

Speaker 5 (01:29:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
I don't know if you know what a shambles this
thing is. I've been following what's going on because the
Taxpayers Union have done quite an admirable job of keeping
a spotlight on what the Marsden Fund has been up to.
The Marsden Fund is supposed to be a science fund.
It's a very big fund, and it's administered by the
Royal Society, and they are supposed to give out money
to very prestigious you know, it's a prestigious thing to

(01:29:28):
get to very promising projects in the hope that they will,
I don't know, go on to greater things and stuff.
And it was doing really well apparently until Grant Robinson
got involved a few years ago and started messing with
the funding criteria and so a bunch of stuff he did.
The first thing is he said, it doesn't just have
to go to science science. It can go to you know,
science like social sciences and humanities, which I think, even

(01:29:53):
as somebody who studied the humanities, I think we all
know is not really science science science, if you know
what I mean. So he just expanded it like bird
spend it on whatever, and they did, and also they
introduced quotas at some stage, so at least twenty percent
of the money that they give out, the fellowships they
give out have to go to MARI and at least

(01:30:13):
ten percent have to go to PACIFICA and at least
fifty percent have to go to women's So it's not
have you got the most baller idea, You've got the
best idea and this is epic Wow. No, doesn't work
like that. It's can you are you Mari? Okay, you
can have some money, and are you PACIFICA yep? Okay,
and you're a lady okay, cool, you can have some money.
That's a mental way of doling out taxpayer cash. But anyway,

(01:30:34):
get a load of what they've been spending the money
on projects like this linking the celestial spheres to end
of life experiences. This research investigates what compelled Mari to
link the celestial sphere matsariki in particular with death. The
research hopes to rekindle the ancient connection to the stars
and reimagine the meaning of death. Yay, that looks like

(01:30:56):
if we put eight hundred and sixty one thousand dollars
into that, I feel like it's going to be really
beneficial to the country, and we're just going to make
so much money off that. Not but we put the
money in. Anyway, there was also the project that I
quite enjoyed a tensity ta affirming tax system design because
unfortunately Maldive voices have been largely absent from discussion on
tax policy and altier at all. So this research will

(01:31:18):
take inspiration from other countries with codesign tax systems that
affirm the rights of indigenous people, because that's what I
wanted from my tax system. I don't know about you.
I mean, like a lot of people just want quite
basic taxation where you take some money and then you
spend it on other stuff, take as little as you need,
spend it on the best projects. But no, you've got
to think bigger. You've got to think about how it
can reaffirm the rights of indigenous people. So we put
eight hundred and fifty three thousand dollars into that one.

(01:31:40):
And then my absolute favorite, which is virtual voyagers amplifying
Pacific girl game of voices, because there is nothing I
love more than girl gamers. I don't know about it,
but I don't want to hear their voices. So let's
put some money into that. How much three hundred and
sixty thousand dollars or JC Judith Collins, who does not
brook a lot of shiit looked at it and went no,

(01:32:00):
we're not gonna No, we're not gonna play that game anymore. Guys. Thanks,
that was awesome. I hope you really enjoyed all the
free money that you got for your really weird ideas.
Just put an end to it. No more humanities, no
more social sciences, garbage. The independent panels that have up
to now been handing out the money quite badly, they're
gone by next year. And every application, and this is
a bit I like the most, every application for funding
must now describe its potential to generate economic, environmental or

(01:32:24):
health benefits to New Zealand. Thank you, Yes, we'll have
some benefits for our money. And fifty percent of grants
from the Marsden Fund each year must have the potential
for economic benefit. Amen and hallelujah. Fourteen away from.

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Speaker 2 (01:32:48):
Sounds like the taxpayer gravy train has gone it, doesn't it?
And isn't it good? Twelve away from seven Gavin Gray
Are UK correspondence here. Hey, Gavin, either have it now
do you reckon mccron's gonna survive this?

Speaker 19 (01:33:00):
Well, it's going to be an interesting few days for him.
I mean, the French can't hold another election until July.
That's because there has to be a minimum of a
one year change, a one year delay between the elections.
And I have to say, when he called it, he
thought he was going to strengthen his hand this snap election.
Instead voters went the other way. There are now three
equal blocks or pretty much equal in Parliament, meaning he

(01:33:23):
can't really get anything done because they won't agree with
one another. The Prime minister resigned this week, the shortest
term for any prime minister in the Fifth Republic, and
then last night Emmanual Macron on television saying that people
were playing politics. He was going to put in a
new prime minister in the next few days. But it's
looking very bad for France. The stock markets, the investors

(01:33:45):
don't like it, the financiers don't like it, and looking
bad for Emmanual Macron. Can he really weather the storm
to see it through to the.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
End of his term?

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
If he doesn't wither it, what does it look like
for him? If it goes really badly for you?

Speaker 19 (01:33:59):
Yeah, I mean, well, I think chaos really is the
thing because the country has twice the deficit permitted by
the European Union. Double the deficit. Now, when the UK
went over that deficit limit, I think I'm right in
saying we were fined very heavily, and yet somehow France
double the deficit. It needs to tackle it. It needs

(01:34:21):
to raise taxes, it needs to cut spending, neither of
which would be popular, but things that other countries have
had to do or been forced on them by the
European Union. I'm not saying that'll happen here, but something
needs to change, and change fast, because France's economy is
heading in the wrong direction.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
Yeah, very interesting. Hey, so why is the kesh use
going up in the UK?

Speaker 6 (01:34:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:34:43):
I think it's predominantly a thing that many people are
struggling with the new technology. And we've had the loss
of a lot of banks here and that has led,
i think, to with thousands of bank closures. I mean
in small towns and villages, but in cities too, and
that's led to many old people or those without very
good technology or digital skills really being isolated in that

(01:35:05):
they feel they can't sort of move their money around
as they wanted to. And one good reason that cash
is being used is it helps people budget better. And
so here in the UK, for the second consecutive year
in a row, we've seen the number of cash transactions
in shops increase and that yes, the previous decades showed

(01:35:25):
a steep fall, but cash is now used in about
one in five transactions in a shop. The amount has
slightly gone down. It kind of wrestles around that fifty
New Zealand dollar mark is the average spend per transaction,
but certainly it does seem to be gaining a bit
of traction. There are, however, many places now that are

(01:35:46):
non cash, so card only, and that's that's something that
many people say, you know, completely rules out some customers
going in them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Do you think it actually helps you budget better?

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Well, you know, it.

Speaker 19 (01:35:59):
Doesn't make much difference for me, but I do like
spending in cash and I do actually find as well,
and sometimes you get a better deal. So obviously depends
what you're buying and depends where you are a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
Dealgevin, are you guys that's a little under the table
Jobby there who said that?

Speaker 19 (01:36:16):
No, no, no, I just think that you know, some
of the stores look at you absolutely ghast. I was
in one the other day. I got out a twenty
pound note roughly forty five New Zealand dollars. The person
looked at me like I was from Mars, and I said,
you have to accept this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
This is legal tender. Yeah, a very good point, Gavin,
look after yourself. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
Devin Gray Ore, UK correspondent This evening eight away from seven, getting.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Ready for a new administration in the US.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:54):
Five away from seven. I'm getting a lot of texts
saying thanks for coming in, You're welcome, thank you for
having me when I'm obviously under the weather and not not.
I'm just it's just weird. I'm just being a bit
bizarre today, a bit strange. Somebody sent me a text
earlier and was like, what the hell's going wrong with
you today? You just do this is the show is
the loosest it's ever been, And frankly I can't disagree

(01:37:14):
with you. It is loose, but that's what happens when
you have four days sitting at home going a bit crazy,
and then you come in and your mind doesn't actually
work properly. Actually, can I tell you something, This is weird.
I can't taste anything. It's I've had I've had COVID
before I had I had RONA the first time round
when we all got rona, do you know what I mean?
Apart from some strange people who didn't. For the most part,
we got it and it wasn't that bad, and everything

(01:37:35):
went back to normal and didn't lose my sense of
taste or smell or anything. And then I probably got
ron a few more times, just a little cold or
something like that. All this time, I cannot taste a
single thing. I was barbecuing last night, and you know,
you get your your lovely little like charring the meat
smoke that comes off, you know, And I was thinking

(01:37:55):
about it, and I thought, it's quite interesting that, excuse me,
quite interesting that today the meat doesn't smell like anything,
like what. That's weird. Obviously I'm not thinking like a
normal healthy person because it is quite weird. It doesn't
smell like anything. And then my friend said, oh, that
smells delicious. And I was like what. Then I realized

(01:38:16):
I cannot smell a single thing. I cannot taste a
single thing, So there is no enjoyment in eating. I
don't know if I smell bad, I could. You know,
you know how that some days you have like a
really sweety day, and you catch a smell of yourself
and you're like, oh, yeah, oh, just stay away from people.
I have no sense of what I smell like, and
so I google it could be terrible, and so it

(01:38:37):
probably is. And so I googled it today to find
out how long it takes to get your sense of
tastes and smell back, because I am operating on zero
at the moment, and it can take a year and
a half. A year and a half. That is frightening,
terrifying as and on.

Speaker 6 (01:38:53):
That happy note, wags the dog by the wiggles to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Get cool, because I don't have enough of this in
my life already. I was going to say, it's just
total embrace it, Heather.

Speaker 6 (01:39:02):
You can't taste anything, you can't smell anything, and this
is your playlist.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Great, we've just got to accept that as reality and.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
Move on and have a happy Christmas anyway, have a
great Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Heather, Yeah, Merry Christmas to you. I'm not going to
be on the show for the rest of the year.
I'm gonna have to go and do the do they
pay me more for it? I don't know, go and
do the early morning check. He gets paid a lot
for it. Do you think I should have good news?
You have to wake up super early in the morning.
He can't taste anything, can't smell anything, massively pregnant. Waking
up at two thirty and then having to come home

(01:39:30):
and listen to the Wiggles. Awesome, It's just great as
Merry Christmas. Thank you for being awesome this year. Andy,
thanks for being here. When Laura just decides to have
days off, I know she's just like she's like Friday
Friday party time. Thank you for being here. Merry Christmas,
and Merry Christmas to you, and thank you for listening.
And I'll see you next year. After the baby and
everything and the smell and everything. He's back. See then.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
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