Full Show Podcast: 07 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Digging through the spin friends to find the real story,
or HiT's Ryan Bridge on Hither Dupless Ellen Drive with
one New Zealand let's get connected and news talk Zed.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Be good afternoon, Welcome to your Friday seven after four.
Simmon Brown's on the show for I think about the
third time this is a man with a plan, third
time this week man with a plan who wants to
reform health end Z. We'll look at that, and we
will look at whether Lester Levy is a part of that.
We're going to speak to the mayor of Byron Bay
on Alfred after six. We will talk about the trade

(00:34):
Will wals More in the United States and moderflications there
are for businesses who are operating globally. And Paul Allison
Andrew Gordy on the sports Huddle today right and Bridge Bridge, Well,
now we know why all of those health end Zed
bosses quit in quick succession. Just a few weeks back.
Remember that the headlines screamed health system and crisis. String

(00:56):
of senior managers and CEO resigning. Was it principled stand
against this evil coalition government? Some wondered, Well, today we
get our answer, and it's nothing to do with principles.
It's to do with competence. Deloitte did a report into
how health new Enz's books managed to flip flop. Remember,

(01:17):
they went from a surplus to a massive deficit and
more than seven hundred million dollar deficit just in the
space of a few months. And everyone's going scratching their
headsticking what's going on at health end Z. Well, Deloitte
did a report into what's going on at health ends Z.
It's on their website and it is one of the
worst I have ever had the displeasure of reading, and

(01:40):
I've had to read a few of these types of
things in my job. They basically, no, not basically, they
did lose control of their finances. They literally didn't know
how much they were spending from month to month. Their
financial plans didn't have any detail in them, so the
budgets weren't even based in reality. They offered, didn't know

(02:03):
where the revenue was coming from and how much money
was needed to run the system. And savings. This part's good.
This part's unbelievable. Well, I mean it's believable if you've
listened this far. They planned to save five hundred million
dollars to try and balance the funding gap at one point, right,
which is a laudable thing to do. There's a gap,

(02:23):
we'll try and plug it by savings some money. But
they couldn't even do that. Why because this report makes
clear there was no supporting action plan, no ownership, no budget,
no tracking, no reporting, and no governance for this plan.
So guess what happened? Surprise, surprise, The savings were never made.

(02:44):
I mean, you just can't make this up. It's like
saying I'm going to build a boat and they're not
bothering to draw even a sketch or a design or
some plans and then sitting down for a cup of
tea and snapping your fingers and wondering where is the boat.
You have to do stuff to make it happen, and
just to rub salt in our collective wounds. Here the
senior leadership team get this. They have not met in person,

(03:09):
had any in person meetings for two and a half years,
despite most of them all living in Auckland. It's nuts.
There were always bound to be problems acting DHBs and
then creating this mega entity, but this is just beyond
And this came from a government that was hell bent
on change. At any cost, even though that change was

(03:30):
clearly unachievable and the people that they put in charge
completely incapable of affecting it. Ryan Breds just gone ten
after four news talk SETB. New Zealand First is taking
aim at DEI hires within the public service. That's diversity,
equity and inclusion for those not up in the know.
They've introduced a member's bill that will repel mandated diversity

(03:53):
policies and remove obligations for employers to promote diversity. It
follows Trump's lead in eliminating diversity initiatives over in the States.
Winston Peters as the New Zealand First leader. Good afternoon, Hello,
So where exactly is this woke left wing social engineering happening?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, then the labor leader Hipkins decided to have that
attitude the BBC Services Act, so to speak, and so
he had diversity equity inclusion programs, which means that people
were getting chosen, which was not often out but because

(04:32):
of certain criteria that they themselves had set. And it's
into some very awful and seriously unfair circumstances. And it's
the type of work engineering that we need to stop.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Can you give us to do. Can you give us
an example of those outcomes that you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, I don't know a couple who went through med
school hasn't went through three before the wife she got
to go on to advance medical training for specializing in
for specialization, which you wanted to do. But he was told, look,
if you were pasilag or Mari a woman, you've been,
but you can't be because you're a man. And as
a consequency, and she has seen themselves. Well, that's the

(05:10):
way it is in this country, wedding off overt sea.
So they're going to be two highly quantified doctors going
somewhere else, and it's happening. I don't over again.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
And that's because of these inclusions in the Public Service
Commissioner's job Pope, in the Public Service Amendment Bill. That's right, Okay,
do you know you have you named these I mean,
how do you know about these people? How did you
find out?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well, they told me that's why, and I thought, well,
that's not unpredictable. That's what happens when people interfere and
decide without any mandate, any consultation of zeal public or
there I say it with the workforce and the serious
train that's required so many areas to provide there and
impose their own criteria, and anybody that protests is nearly

(05:59):
you many dismissed as going down a rabbit hole. Or
the rabbit hole in this case is our country and
we're losing our big time.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Are you aware of widespread DEI hires going on within
the public service at the moment? I mean, are we
hiring people on their identity over their merit regularly or
do we not actually know regularly?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
That's what's happening because they're change with those responsibilities. They
set out the criteria. You've got to do this this,
and you've got to have frequent reviews that you're doing
this performing to a certain requirement and criteria set by who,
set by a group of So I'm sad sort of
overbearing domin who woke lestist politicians and the public service.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I'm not quite sad. I'm not saying that you. I'm
not saying you're wrong or but it's hard to know
why somebody was hired, isn't it. I mean it's you
can't point to someone and say they're brown or their
trans therefore they must be crap at their job. I
mean they might have got there on merit and to be.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
No, no, no, no. Often it's a matter of qualifications
that people have got the qualifications superior to the ones
who haven't got the qualifications, but they don't fit the criteria,
and so they're missing out even with superior qualifications. Now, look, God,
I've got an office full of young people, full of
entire called diversity. Certain state don't know what the regionals,
don't care what their preferences are, which will know they're competent.

(07:22):
And that's the way it should be, not all this
business of laying down a criteria which is unfair and
the extreme, and for which when you're planning at school,
primary secondary and on second at university, they're not aware
of until they hit the down roads, so to speak,
of these narrow judgments being made against their interests.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
What about over in America, they're very upset about the
pronouns on email signatures. In fact, they're firing state employees
for putting them on there. Now. And also, I mean,
we allow you to change your six on your birth certificate,
you can change your six on your passport. You're okay
with all that.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
I'm not a CHAREO all that? Because I realized you
all is we've had a long view for services of
boys formation that the government's got no business in the
nation's bedrooms. Ask that question, because no about business. But
if you kind of start making statements about biological certainties
to end up with biological uncertainties, then you're just playing

(08:18):
around and mucking around with the facts that go at
It goes back, the facts that goes back thousands and
thousands of years. People are just asking for some common
sense in these matters.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Now, m So somebody puts their pronouns on an email,
thing that should do you think that should get fired?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well? The thing is I'm the wiser, am I? Then
they and all that, I'm the wiser. And here's the
point there. I have all sorts of people from different
backgrounds in that context and have ever worried me? And
all I know? All I know is are they any
good at their job?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, that's a fair enough question to ask. Winston Peters,
thank you very much for your time. Then he's doing
first Leader. It's just gone quarter past four. Bryan two
nineteen is the number to text.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I have a couple of thoughts on this very quickly
for you. If somebody wants to put change the sex
on their birth certificate, I don't care. That's nothing to
do with me. It's not my issue. Good on, you
go for it. I do agree with Winston Peters about quotas,
although there aren't actually any mandated quotas in the law
at the moment that he's trying to change. But quotas

(09:24):
are bad because if you're a let's take a woman
for an example. You could say a homosexual, or you
could say a transfer whatever, take your pick from all
the colors of the rainbow. Let's choose a woman. They're
not even a minority. Why do we care so much
about women? Anyway? Let's take a woman. If you're sitting
around the boardroom and there's a woman there, the last

(09:46):
thing you want to be thinking is she here because
she's smart? Or is she here because you know she
happens to have breasts. That's why quotas are stupid. So
I agree with them on that point. But the rest
of it, I mean, it's probably more politics, isn't it.
Sixteen after four News talks B Jason Pine. Next, of course,
the cricket this weekend.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
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Speaker 2 (10:10):
ZB News Talk ZB nineteen after four Jason pines here,
Hey Jason, Hello Ryan, So you'll be excited about this weekend.
Do you think we can do it? I think we can.
I think we can.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
It's getting to ten o'clock on Sunday night to start
with without too much anticipation, and then getting through the
night on Sunday night into Monday morning, you know, seven
or eight hours of cricket in the wee small hours.
But I feel like it's one worth staying up for.
You know, the black Caps are on a roll in
fifty over cricket. They've won the last five or six
games in a row. Semi final went over South Africa.

(10:41):
Was about as perfect as they could possibly have imagined.
All of our players seem to be in good form
with the bat, with the ball. The only thing I
guess that sits in the front of your mind probably
is the fact that this is India. They themselves a
very good team. They haven't had to travel at all
during this tournament. This is been spoken about a lot.

(11:01):
They've just stayed put in Dubai while every other team
has traveled around Pakistan and to do buy back out again,
whereas India have been the same place the whole time.
Take away all of that, though, I think we're a
real chance. I really think we're a great chance of
winning this game on Sunday night into Monday morning.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Round four a Super Rugby this weekend. Before we chat
about this, I'm now understanding why the Hurricanes won that
one game.

Speaker 6 (11:23):
Set on down.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
The Fiji and Drew was stuck in some truck being
shipped from the airport. I mean, yes, hardly seems fair, Sabot.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's not the ideal preparation of It's not what you
chart out if you were planning the perfect preparation.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
I shouldn't laugh.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
It's a it's obviously a you know, a really really
unfortunate set of circumstances that the Fiji Andrew found themselves.

Speaker 6 (11:46):
And I know more is going to come out.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
In fact, if I can just plug my show tomorrow,
Jack Mesley, head of Super Rugbies, on the show just
after midday tomorrow to answer this question and a few
others as well. But look, I don't know who's fault
it is, because if the Hurricanes get a late check
out from their hotel on the day of the game.
Why don't the Fiji and Drewer get a late check
out as well. Surely the two bookings are being made

(12:09):
by the same person. If Super Rugby is doing a
block booking, I don't understand how this has happened. I
think the bus company have said, look, we stuffed up,
we got the booking wrong, so you can place the
blame for the ride in the back of the luggage
truck at their door. But there seems to be a
bit too much that's not quite you know, become apparent yet.

(12:29):
I need to know more about how this happened.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, all a bit weird, isn't it. Jason, You're big
Round four for Super Rugby this weekend. We'll be looking
forward to that too. Jason Pine Weekend Sports Hope and
host midday to three pm tomorrow and Sunday right here
on News Talk SETB. It's twenty two minutes after four
lots to come. After four thirty news, We're going to
go to the US get the latest because Trump's doing

(12:52):
clip flop flip flop, flip flop. I told you this
had happened. The markets turn and so does Trump.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
In fulled side into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on
Hither duperic Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get
connected news Talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Great to be with you this Friday afternoon. Twenty four
minutes after four. Now some of your texts about DEI
policies the coming in and after we interviewed Winston Peters.
He wants to do away with bits in the legislation
that encourage They don't force you, but they encourage you
to think about your workforce, public sector workforce reflecting what

(13:30):
society looks like. Right, So he's saying, that's all DEI
woke nonsense, Get rid of it. Ryan, I'm very right wing.
This is from one of our texts. I'm very right wing.
But honestly, the sooner Winston retires, the better his views
are from the dark ages. And now I must say
that text is in the minority, because there are more
like this. Ryan. The incompetency of people in high level

(13:51):
leadership positions in my public service sector who clearly have
no competency or even experience in what they should be
doing is breathtaking. There you go, twenty five minutes after four,
Cryin Bridge, You're on news talks hed B. So Trump
is delayed. Let me explain it to you, because it's
a little bit complicated. It's not just that you push
paws on the tariffs that you implemented two days ago.

(14:13):
This is on Canada and on Mexico at twenty five percent.
He has pushed paws on them, but not all of them.
So only the goods that are compliant with the basically
updated NAFTA, the free trade deal that they've got. Only
goods that are compliant with that will be let through
without a tariff. So that equates, if you're Mexico, that's

(14:34):
about half of the goods that you export to the
United States will go tariff free, and if you're Canada,
that's about forty percent will go tariff free. So not
all of the goods, but some of the goods. In
any case, he's relented a little bit for now. The
chaos continues. Dan Mitchison is with us live out of
the US after the news. Have you listened though to

(14:55):
Trudeau apparently got quite upset today. Well, I mean, when
isn't he sort of for the cameras, but here he is.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
I've made sure that every single day in this office,
I put Canadians first, that I have people's backs, and
that's why I'm here to tell you all we got you,
even in the very last days of this government. We
will not let Canadians down today and long into the future.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I thank you. Does he realize the oscars were last week?
But a bomb? Honestly that is too much for me.
Thank you. Dan Medisin's Live out of the State's namen.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
On the iHeart app and in your car on your
drive home it's Ryan Bridge on hither Duperslan Drive with
one New Zealand let's get connected.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
News talk sa'd be?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Are you having to have.

Speaker 9 (15:54):
The wordestly Ton.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Good? Evenin twenty five Away from five news talks at
be Simon Brown, the health Minster and the big changes
he's announced today to our health system and what private
hospitals have got to do with it, and the answer
is actually quite a lot. He'll be with us after five.
We're also going to head to Bayron Bay. The mayor
will run us through the cyclone Alfred, how it's affecting
them so far, how it will affect them this weekend.
Someone's text and I like this text nine two ninety two, Ryan,

(16:24):
I love this piece in the news about the latest
Space X explosion because another one has bitten the dust.
It's referred to simply as a rapid, unscheduled disassembly rather
than an explosion. Twenty four minutes away from five it's.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
The world wires on news talks, it'd be drive.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Thousands of homes in Australia are without power. Cyclone Alfred
approaches the country. The Queensland Premier is warning that storm
will probably cover a very large area when it finally
makes landfall.

Speaker 10 (16:57):
This system remains a very one and often when we
see tropical cyclones as they approach the coast, that band
really does titan. In this case, it is it is
really large and slow moving and that does represent the
prospect of some significant rainfall over a long period of time.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Zleinski's trip to the EU has gone a whole lot
better than his trip to the White House. Did They
have agreed over there a big boost in defense spending
and they've confirmed their support for Ukraine.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
Big appreciation.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Well where it's handful that we are not alone and
these are not just words, we feel it.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Ukraine and the US set to resume in Saudi Arabia
their talks next week Finally, this afternoon, comedian Elaine C.
Smith has been given the key to the City of Glasgow.
She's actually making use of it. Anyone given the ceremonial
freedom of the city is traditionally given permission to graze
their cattle on common ground and a fish in the

(17:54):
River Clyde. So celebrate her new status, Elaine has promptly
borrowed a couple of high and cows and taking them
to Glasgow for a grace.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Dan Mixicon's are US correspondent Dan Good afternoon.

Speaker 11 (18:12):
Hey, good afternoon, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
So we've got to delay or a pause as he
likes to call it, a pause from Trump on terras
for Mexico and Canada. We do.

Speaker 11 (18:21):
That's good news the stock market. I was just checking
during the World wires their futures right now, which are
up before the market opens tomorrow, which is nice. But
he did sign that executive action today, so it'll give
us about a month break on products that we get
in from Mexico and Canada. Although I've got to tell
you the President said earlier today he hasn't been paying
any attention to the stock market, you know he is.

(18:41):
And this trade agreement is between the US and Mexico
and Canada. It's the USMCA. The thing is, though, only
about fifty percent of imports from Mexico and about a
third from Canada are cover this agreement. So I wouldn't
expect a sudden rollback in prices just because of this,
this sudden halt for the next month.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Meanwhile, Elon Musk, he's been kind of putting his place
a little bit by trump new limits.

Speaker 11 (19:07):
Yeah, he did, he did. I mean, we've seen more
of him on the evening news. It seems like when
we have the president and there's been a lot of
pushback about how much authority he has or power or influence,
whatever you want to call it. So the President got
together with his cabinet to day and he said, you
know what, you're in charge of your departments, not Elon Musk.
He did say that Musk was empowered to make recommendations
to various departments, but he can't have the final say

(19:30):
on the policy. And Musk was in the meeting during
this time. And the reason I think that the president
had this was just because Musk has had so much
pushback from Democrats and from some Republicans, and there have
even been court filings over the actions that have been taken.
So I think bottom line, according to Trump's new guidance,
Doge and the staff will play an advisory role, and

(19:50):
that's what it should be, just an advisory role.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
There you going. Just so everybody's clear now, and new
generation is here, its name is already a and the
insult apparently yeah.

Speaker 11 (20:02):
I mean every generation, I guess they say, has a
stigma that's associated with this. And this is Generation Beta,
which went into effect on the first of this year,
and there are people that are saying that and parents.
I have a lot of parents saying that this could
be seen as offensive because the term beta doubles a
slang for someone who's passiver week. And I got to

(20:22):
tell you ran didn't. I had no idea that that
was a thing before this came out today. But in
terms of the Greek alphabet, I mean, we had the
Alpha generation that was before this, we have the Beta.
I have no idea what they're going to call the
generation after this.

Speaker 12 (20:35):
It's going to have to be something with a sea.

Speaker 11 (20:37):
But these are people that were born between this year
and will be born until twenty thirty nine. And they
say that these are our kids right now that are
going to inherit a world that's grappling with a lot
of societal changes right now that are kind of basically
going to be connected to the screen, which I don't
think is kind of surprising on this and this futurist,
the guy that coined this guy by the name of

(20:57):
Mark McCrindle, he said that, you know, this could be
one of the biggest generations that we've ever had in
the in the history.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Goodness, mate. But the problem is by complaining that, you know,
complaining that you don't like the name Beta makes you
sound beta. It kind of does.

Speaker 11 (21:16):
And to tell you the truth, I don't know when
we started naming generation. I mean, of course we have
the greatest generation. We have Generation Acts and we you know,
and a few others that we use in our it
seems like our daily terminology.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
But you're you're right.

Speaker 11 (21:27):
I mean, if they complain about this, I mean, that's
why we complain about the generation before us, Generation what
is Z you know, they're the ones that we're given
all the flak to. But I guess this is going
to be the ones that we end up giving the
flak to in the coming years.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
And thank you. Dan Mitchson ow UIs correspondent, just gone.
Nineteen minutes away from five, Brian Bridge. Now, I just
mentioned SpaceX and Elon Musk's mission because he's trying to
get to the Moon and then he's trying to get
to Mars. He's trying to get satellites there and he's
trying to get humans there. They reckon that this is
excellently now starting to look like quite the sit back
for him. Space rocket took off two minutes after lift

(22:03):
off from Texas. It was falling over the Bahamas. So
not great if you want to get all the way
to the moon. Not great, certainly not great if you
want to get all the way to Mars. Nineteen away
from five, Barries Soper.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
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Speaker 2 (22:19):
Sixteen away from five News Talks. They'd be Barry Soaper,
senior political correspondent here for us. Good afternoon, Burried, good afternoon.
Right now, So rememb Bran on this program after five.
But he's been making announcing some big changes today.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
Well he has been, hasn't he? And it's on the
back of that Deloitte's report and I heard your ineditorial
on it. I mean, it's incredible, isn't it. Really the
left hand didn't know what the right hand is doing,
although in this case both hands were amputated by the
sounds of things. I mean, the senior management not having
meetings for more than two years, which is extraordinary when

(22:51):
you think about it. Yeah, and you know, if it
was laughable, you'd say it was an orchestrated littley of laughs.
But it's not because it's not funny. We're spending I
mean this government has now committed more than sixteen billion
dollars over and above what was being spent on health
and what really have we got to show for it
at the moment. We've got a health commissioner in place,

(23:14):
and Simmy and Brown, you know, no matter what good
intentions health ministers have, it's a never ending bottomless pit.
There's always demands on the health system. Now simmyon Brown
seems to know what he wants. But when he talks local,
which is what he says, the going back to local,
does that mean a return to district health boards?

Speaker 13 (23:36):
You need to make sure that it's nationally planned but
it's locally delivered. And the reality is when Labor centralized
Health New Zealand into a one mega entity, they took
away control, They took away decision making from local leaders
and from the districts, and that has meant that we've
ended up with an overly bureaucratic system. It's now about
decentralizing Health New Zealand, focusing it back on the districts

(23:58):
and giving power back to those reas so they can
make decisions and the best interests of the patients. I
want the best people who have a track record in
delivery on this board. As a thirty billion dollar organization,
it's one of the biggest organizations in the Southern Hemisphere
and every single part of that organization needs to be
focused on delivery.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah it is big, but no matter what size, it
never seems to be able to hit the mark. What
I always found extraordinary, Ryan, was that the district health
boards were disbanded right at the height of COVID, where
we should have been concentrating on other things, which is
exactly about restructuring the health system.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Exactly what the then opposition was saying, Right now is
not the time, and this report makes pretty clear that
it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
It wasn't the time.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Now, Winston Peters is on One today. He's talking about DEI.
He's got the war on the woke. We've had him
on the show this afternoon. I heard the thing about this. Though.
It's very hard to prove that there is a widespread
problem with this, because how do you know why someone
was hired?

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Well, that's the problem, isn't it, Because there's no hard
and fast rules, although there is expectations in the public service,
and we're constantly being told how women are disadvantaged when
compared to men. There's an interesting thing that came out today.
The teacher aides though beginning discussions across the country next week.

(25:23):
They are looking at taking legal action on the Equal
Pay Act, the Ministry of Education against the Ministry of
Education the review of their pay required under the Act.
They say they won an initial equity settlement in twenty twenty,
but it shows their pay now basically is seventeen percent

(25:45):
behind what men are doing with exactly the same skill set. Now,
that is where it is unfair. If you're doing exactly
the same jobs, you shouldn't be generally across the board
paid that much less. Than men. But there is a problem.
You when they have automatic increases, which is what they
tend to do in the public service, you've got a

(26:07):
problem because women leave the workforce, they have broken service
and then men, so those figures can be skewed.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah. Thing about the pay gap, the gender pay gap
is women live longer than men. So that isn't it all?
Even out ladies lavers reshuffle today very quickly we can
run through well, not great, is it really?

Speaker 6 (26:33):
I mean I found even more interesting than the reshuffle.
I mean Ginny Anderson, who of course has been accident
prone as we've seen over the past year. She's received
a new portfolio, Jobs and Incomes, and there's a new
sort of a finance team Barbarad and Edmunds. She keeps
the finance portfolio but is looking at a portfolio called

(26:53):
savings and investment. And guess what they've announced their two
thousand and twenty six election campaign, what they're going to
be concentrating on. Wait for it, this is a big
surprise job, Jobs, health, and homes.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Oh gosh, relationship. Exactly interesting though that they've got five
in their economy team. Five people. I mean, how many
people does it take to drive a car.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
I hope they have some meetings.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
In person very quickly before you go back. I have
to play this for you because I think you'll appreciate
it in the same way I do, which is my
reaction is sort of a dry reach. But this is
justin Trudeau. Oh no to the Canadian people after Trump's
coming for them with the terriffs, have listens, and I
think you didn't realize the oscars will last week. You
have a listener.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
I've made sure that every single day in this office
I put Canadians first, that I have people's backs, and
that's why I'm here to tell you all we got you,
even in the very last days of this government. We
will not let Canadians down today and long into the future.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
Oh please, I've seen that man at so many international
conferences that I've attended. He walks through hotel four years
leading his group of people, but walks away ahead of
them and looks side to side, hoping that people will
know who he is. A lot of people just look blankly.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
I noticeo's that weirdo?

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Yeah? Who is it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well he won't be there much longer, will he? Thank
you for that? Very Soper Senior political correspondent and the
way he says in the last days of my government,
like they're ring back Pierre his dad. Well, exactly, exactly,
quite right. It has just gone ten away from five
news talk said, b don't forget some men brown after
five and we'll also look at the Fijian drawer. What
exactly happened? This is after five point thirty. What exactly

(28:45):
happened when they got to the airport to try and
play the hurricanes?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Digging into the issues that affect you on my Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 14 (28:53):
So, no, the airline is not in great shape. It
is at best okay, And no, this doesn't look like
a job completed in any way, shape or form. It
looked like a fairly dull old the bear, didn't it.
The handful of people sitting on cheek chairs in a
room and Phil looked like cheese. I got a three
afternoon I might go along and ask it. They had
that vibe about it, didn't It really didn't need to
be the career ending mess that it.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Turned out to be.

Speaker 14 (29:15):
So no terrifts at all on anything for Mexico. Canada
is still in the gun. The agriculture has been moved on.
Maybe maybe not, but yesterday we got the cars. Who
the hell knows what's going on? Back Monday from six
am the Mike Hosking breakfast with the rain driver.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
The last News Talk said be it is six minutes
away from five. News Talk said, be great to have
your company this afternoon. Nine two nine tiers number to
text now and wanted to share this with you from
Jason Walls, who's a man in Parliament. This is how
much the Reserve Bank's little soiree cost us. This is
the one they held yesterday and the day before, the
one that Adrian or was meant to be chairing. Remember

(29:53):
he was meant to be the mate, well not the
main attraction that's been Bananky, but he was meant to
be there at the very least. So he's asked how
much did it co? This is for the sixth and
the seventh of March. Total cost is one hundred thousand dollars.
Well let's break that down, showing they have Banankes flights
fifteen thousand, his incidents incidentals I should say one thousand dollars.

(30:14):
There were separate flights worth twenty thousand, with hotels and
incidentals three thousand, four hundred. Then you've got to hire
to Papa thirteen grand. Then you've got to do your
av and your live streaming and your lighting eighteen grand,
advertising call seven hundred dollars. So it all starts to
add up, and by the end of it it's one
hundred thousand dollars. And Adrian or didn't even God say

(30:35):
there would have been an extra meal, no doubt. Sitting
there Uneaten it is five to five news talks the
b raying bread. Now the Pope is doing better, although
they've released him audio of the me and he doesn't
sound you. A box of birds have listened to it.
This is the pont if he's been three weeks in hospital.
Now some quite labored breathing being heard. You will, of

(30:57):
course hear this in his native Spanish because he's art Tinian,
but it'll be translated.

Speaker 15 (31:04):
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for
your prayers for my health. From the square. I am
with you from here. May God bless you and the
Virgin protect you. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
There you go. So there's still people praying. They're very
commissioned bunch, aren't they. The Catholics still praying outside St.
Peters Square every evening and every morning in the hope
that he recovers quickly. And it sounds like he is
making a recovery, but it is a very very slow.
One time now is four minutes away from five o'clock.

(31:43):
After five, we're going to get to Simeon Brown. He's
in charge of health and looks like Lester Levy is
going to be pushed aside or at least sidelined. He'll
still be around for a transition phase. But they're bringing
back the Board of Health in z which is probably
long over due. He's starting to make his own mark,
stamp his own mark on this organization. And what he'll

(32:04):
be wanting to do is get a few runs on
the board, get the organization structure right, pay some private
hospitals to take some operations off our hands, thank you
very much, and then get the hell out of Dodge.
Because you don't want to hold on to it's like
a hot potato, a ticking time bomb. You don't want
to hold on to Health for too long, otherwise it'll
just blow up in your hands. Four minutes away from five,

(32:26):
you're on news talks. There'd be he's next. We're also
going to head to a Queensland. But we're going to
Byron Bay the mirrors with us for the latest latest
there on Alfred.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Why I could callup boney Jan, we could break it
in if you know what I.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
Mean, put some.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Everywherey and m just do me drug good callump biney Jan.
We can break in if you know what I mean,
Person where person Mason.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust for
the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather dupic allan drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
That'd be good evening at a seven half to five.
We're live tracking cyclone Alfred in just a second right
now though, the Health in z board is coming back.
This is eight months after they got rid of it.
Lest Levy of course replaced the old board. Well he'll
be the next to go. Simon Brown's the Health minister,
Home minister you good, thank you. So Lester Levy's gone.

Speaker 13 (33:50):
Well, we're going to be replacing the commission with a
board from the end of the commission, which ends an
end of July. Expect Lester will continue to have a
role beyond that. We do to ensure we have a
successful transition in order to make sure that his knowledge
and also is able to be transferred across it's the biggest,
one of the biggest organizations in the Southern Hemisphere, so

(34:11):
it's critically important that we have a successful transition. But
what we're announcing today is that we're going back to
more traditional governance so we can focus the organization and
make sure it's working for patients across the country.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I've read this Deloitte report. It's absolutely damning. They basically
didn't know who was Arthur or Martha when it comes
to finances, hence the problems. When you say going back
to a local model, does you don't mean DHBs? What
do they exhalt? What does it look like?

Speaker 13 (34:37):
So what it's about its having nationally a nationally consistent model,
locally delivered with clear financial plans in place, clear financial
output budgets, what's going to be happening in each district,
and the national organization is holding those holding each part
of the organization accountable to deliver against that with proper
financial controls in place.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Organization who's in charge of the of the local areas
like they're going to be quasi HB boards.

Speaker 13 (35:05):
Well, now the organizations working is already in the process
of devolving into.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Four regions, right, Okay.

Speaker 13 (35:11):
There there's regional leadership for each of those regions.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Okay, so they'll do established the hold.

Speaker 13 (35:18):
The districts to account underneath that, and it's about just
putting in place good financial accountabilities, delivery plans, to output plans,
all of the things that that Deloitte report has shown
we're missing. Putting that in place so we can focus
every part of Health New Zealand on delivering for patients good.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It sounds like they need it now. The private hospital
is the use of private hospitals. You're gonna put fifty
million dollars in over six months. That will clear ten
thousand hopefully at the backlog of the procedures are we
not doing. We already do that. We do contract with
the private section. We're changing.

Speaker 13 (35:49):
Well, we do it at a very ad hoc level. Basically,
it's done on very short term arrangements. I want this
is I want to move to longer term arrangements, probably
three year contras, where we actually manage to get value
for money and we're able to plan better for the
workforce between the public system and the private system as well.

(36:09):
And there's huge efficiencies that can be gained. The reality
is our hospitals are doing both what's called acute care
when someone turns up and out of an accident or
something that can often disrupt the plan care, which is
the elective surgeries. And what I'd like to see is
over the long term formal that can here being done
by the private sector, just like how acc does it,

(36:30):
so we're able to maximize the efficiency of our health
system and get the best outcomes of patients. And I
don't think patients really care who's delivering the health care.
They just want to know that it's that they can
get the access they need in a timely manner.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
The unions, of course, have come out and they worried
already because I suppose there is an argument to be
made if you're using private hospitals more and you're giving
them a certainty of work, three year planning, etc. Then
you might start to hollow out your public hospitals.

Speaker 13 (36:58):
I understand the concern, and that's why I've also asked
Health New Zealand to work to come to put together
a memorand of understanding and a partnership approach between public
and private to make sure that we're looking at how
we can share workforces appropriately, manage training and also potentially
look at joint recruitments. The reality is we need to

(37:19):
see our health workforces competing with Australia rather than competing
amongst ourselves. And that's the approach I want to see
our health system taking here in New Zealand already started
and I think that's really important, so we actually grow
and develop our workforce together rather than just simply take
the ad hoc approach that's been done in the past.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
All right, minister, appreciate your time. Thank you for that.
Simon Brown, who's the Health minister. Time is eleven after
five Bryant Bridge. So we're tracking cyclone Alfred heading towards Queensland.
Four million people now apparently are going to be directly affected.
According to the latest numbers. A number of towns have
already been fully evacuated, thousands of without power. Sarah Jai
is the Byron Bay Men. She's with us live. Sarah,

(38:01):
hello to you. You're in a briefing at the moment,
so we'll keep this quick. But what are you expecting
with a cyclone?

Speaker 16 (38:09):
And we don't usually get them. We don't know what
to expect with the weather. All we can do is
prepare the best we can. But already the river's bulging,
the swell is monstrous. We're having, you know, lots of
the sands just being washed away all along and lots
of erosion. It hasn't even hit us yet and it
hasn't made landfall. We've had big us win lots of

(38:31):
trees over But really at the moment, it's all about
preparing and making sure we're as ready as we can be.
We do have lots of evacuation orders for the low
lying areas in those coastal communities, and that's you know,
a big concern I guess is the wind speeds and
the potential for trees coming out from that sodden soil

(38:52):
and any kind of breaches of the for those low
lying areas close to the sea.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Because yeah, because it's slowing down, does that mean that
there's going to be more damageor are you expecting more
damage because of that?

Speaker 16 (39:07):
Look, it's really.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Hard to tell it.

Speaker 16 (39:10):
I have heard that it may slow down to the
point that it becomes a Category one by the time
it makes landfall, which sounds good at face value, but
apparently it can mean that the rain stays longer, which
is just not something that we can cope with in
our catchments. At the moment, we do already have power
out and a lot of that won't be able to
be fixed until the event is over, which could be

(39:33):
for another you know, twenty four, forty eight or even
seventy two hours.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Is everyone listening to you, Sarah and your instructions, or
if you've got idiots doing dumb stuff.

Speaker 16 (39:45):
Look, I there aren't many people on the roads, which
is great. You know, ultimately we want everyone safe. We
want a zero loss of life is what you want
to aim for. And so when people are going out
surfing monsters swells, as fun and amazing as that may be,
it's pretty frightening because it's so unpredictable out there, and

(40:09):
you know, choppers can't go in to save people. There's
no services. People driving through floodwater. We know last time
in twenty twenty two, you know, there were bridges and
causeways that had been completely taken out and you would
not have known if you looked at the water, and
you just never can tell. So not driving through floodwaters

(40:31):
and not taking risks, staying inside and bunkering down, I
think is the best thing that one can do if
you've still got power, make yourself a coffee and stick
it in a thermos for later downloads of Netflix, because
you're going to need it.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah, it sounds like it's Sarah, you take care, look
after yourself. Sarah Njai, who's the Byron Baimea on cycling
Alfred fourteen after five Bridge Laborly the Crssipkins came out
today and did a bit of a reshuffle. So what's
going on here is basic. He's seen Luxen is not
doing particularly well in the last couple of polls. Luxein's
had a hard couple of weeks or a hard week,

(41:07):
and so he's coming out and saying I'm your guy,
I can be your guy next year. I am credible,
and I'm going to put a lot of focus on
the economy. So he's come up despite criticizing Luxon by
the way for coming up with the one economic growth portfolio,
he's come up now with a team of five covering
the economy. So you've got Barbara Edmonds on finance, economy, savings, investment,

(41:28):
You've got Ginny Anderson in there on jobs and incomes.
Penny Henade on economic development, Kushler Tangay Manuel on MALDI economy,
and then Reuben Davidson on science, innovation, technology broadcasting in
the creative economy. Honestly, how many can you have? This
reeks to me of you know five MP's for the
economy means everybody and nobody is responsible. Did you know

(41:51):
we have eighty portfolios in New Zealand. In Ireland they
have fifteen or seventeen. Why do we have so many?
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today at public Trust dot com, enz and get on
with Living Ryan Bridge News Talks. They have been nineteen
after five. This is the trailer of what is shaping
up to be one of the best films to come
out of New Zealand in the last few years.

Speaker 17 (43:15):
Well is this.

Speaker 10 (43:16):
There are a bunch of spoiled Bridge kids that have
everything they could ever want.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
You don't know them.

Speaker 15 (43:21):
You can't just throw some Sunday school group together and comeboy, are.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
You felt that I could give these kids something? Yeah,
it's pretty good. The name is Tina and it is
also far earned more than a million dollars, ranking as
the third biggest opening weekend for a New Zealand film.
It's also setting a record for the widest KIWI release,
heading one hundred and twenty eight locations in New Zealand.
So Far and beyond. Meka Munga Seva is the TENA director.

(43:48):
He's with me this evening. Hi, Mikya, thank you so
much for having me. How are you feeling? This is
excellent news.

Speaker 18 (43:56):
We've been overwhelmed by the support. We just feel I
just I feel like it's a dream come true. So
we're just so so happy.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
It's a story about a teacher who an educator who's
in christ Church. Tina is her name, and where everyone's
falling in love with her because she's lost a daughter
in the christ Church earthquakes. She's kind of down and
out and she takes on this job and basically teaches
a choir not just to sing, but to love and

(44:30):
do all sorts of other things at this elite private school.
What is it about this film that you think is
connecting with people or people are connecting with.

Speaker 18 (44:39):
Well, I feel like everybody has somebody in their lives
who has been a bit like that, who has been
a mentor to them, who has guided them and doesn't
have to be the appearance necessarily, and that's sort of
where the teacher role comes in. That we've always had
somebody who's mentored who we've fallen in love with that

(45:03):
has guided us and whatever career path that we've gotten into,
and has inspired us outside of our own parents. And
although this is you know, cortinar and it is about
parenting and guidance, I think everybody can, you know, respond
to it because everybody has had some sort of inspirational

(45:23):
leader that they can turn to.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
And remember, Miki, are the middle aged woman just leaving
the cinema crying in their drives?

Speaker 18 (45:33):
Oh look, I tell you what there have been, but
I might just add to that there there have also
been men quietly crying in the corner there. I actually
had my sister had a friend who said, I took
my dad. He never ever cries. He's a very staunch
white man, and yet he cry. I could hear him going.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
So I love that there's a lot of talk to
the oscars about the fact no one's going to the
cinemas anymore. Clearly you've got them there. Do you think
there's something wrong with the cinema, the price, or is
it that we're not making enough movies like this?

Speaker 18 (46:13):
I think it's a combination of all of those things perhaps,
and that it is tough times for everyone at the moment.
I recognize that ticket prices are very high, but also
recognize that it's a part of the economy that's happening
at the moment. There's larger things that play here. But
I also feel like that some of the old films

(46:38):
that we absolutely loved as children, we've gone away from
and I've tried to bring a lot of that back,
and we've heard a lot of commentary about you know,
these are working on the same tropes, and these are
the same sort of things we've seen before and lots
of other movies, and I a part of me loves
that because it's exactly what I intended for film. It's

(47:00):
what I grew up with and I absolutely loved and
I show my son old movies all the time and
he loves all of them. So, you know, I think
we should look to our past with regards to filmmaking
and stories and tap on all of those things that
we loved as children. And just because we've been through

(47:21):
it before, it doesn't necessarily mean our children have seen
these films before, So we should tap into a bit
of that.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Really nicely put thank you so much. I really appreciate it.
And I just realized, I said, Tina, but it's Tina.
Is that how you pronounce that? Yeah, I'll make sure
to do that right.

Speaker 18 (47:39):
It's Tina. It's Sarmon in translation as mother. Her character
name is Mareta Percival, but really speaks to being a
mother and someon culture. We call all of our inspirational
leaders who are females.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Tina.

Speaker 17 (48:00):
That you go.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
Mickey mung Aciva, thank you very much for your time
director of Tena, which is out in cinemas now doing
very very well. So important to go and to celebrate
New Zealand cinema, especially if it's good, which it sounds
like it is. Kelly says, absolutely loved it. Suzie says,
I've seen it twice already. Good on you, Suzi. Twenty
four after five news talks, he'd be the Feeder and
Fijian Drawer and their travel woes coming up after the news.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Getting the facts, discarding the fluff. It's Ryan Bridge on
Heather dubis allan drive with one New Zealand let's get
connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
They'd be five twenty seven. Everyone around the world is
trying to figure out what on earth is Donald Trump
going to cost me? What are the tariffs that he's
putting on Canada and Mexico and potentially our agricultural exports
come April. What are they going to cost us? And
the Europeans have somewhat come up with an answer today.
So the European Central Bank has cut their interest rates.

(48:55):
They've cut a quarter of a percent down to two
point five now, and what they've also updated us on
is their growth forecasts. So for twenty twenty five they
have downgraded growth from one point one percent, which wasn't
that great to begin with, but better than a punch
in the eye and poke in the eye one point
one percent down to zero point nine percent, so point

(49:16):
two percent drop in growth, and they're putting this largely
down to the impacts of a trade war. For twenty
twenty six, down from one point four percent to one
point two percent, so roughly the same there. Now you
might be asking yourself, well, surely they'll be cutting their
interest rates further if they've chopped puff a quarter of
a percent off to day down to two point five

(49:37):
and they're worried about growth, Well no, because they're still
worrying they're about inflation. In fact, they actually lifted their
inflation forecast from two point one to two point three,
and that is because energy costs are still going up
there and there's a lot of uncertainty about the potential
for a deal or maybe no deal with Ukraine, so

(50:00):
that is pushing on their inflation worries. So you've got
low growth plus you've got inflation, and that's stagflation. You're
heading on a nasty, dirty road towards stagflation, which is
a worry for them in Europe. Twenty nine After five
Ryan Bridge, we'll talk to Stephen Jacobe about the trade walls,
after Sex by the Way, and after the news at

(50:21):
five point thirty it's the Fiji and Drew who left
them high and dry basically on the tarmac once they
got off the plane to play in Napier And why
couldn't they check out late before the big game? We're
live to Fiji and then the sports huddle here on
News Talk said bit year, how.

Speaker 8 (50:37):
Much you'll read.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Pudding, the challenging questions to the people at the heart
of the story. It's Ryan Bridge on Hither Dupless Ellen
Drive with One New Zealand let's get connected News Talk Savo.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Good evening, Welcome to your Friday. It is twenty three
minutes away from six to a half six. Stephen Jacobe
will talk to him about the trade wars with Trump
and what does it mean when he pushes go and
then pushes pause, and then pushes go and then pushes pause.
What does it do for confidence? And Barry Soaper wraps
the political week. It's all ahead here on news Talk
STB Bryan Bridge. Confusion is brewing around a photo on

(51:17):
social media of the Fijian draw A super rugby team.
It shows the team piled into the back of a
luggage truck after their arrival in Auckland last month. Now
officials are blaming a breakdown in communication that led to
their bus not arriving. This is before they played a game.
Indura Singh is the FBC sports journalist with us this afternoon,

(51:38):
Good evening, Good evening, Andrew, thanks for being with me.
What is the team saying about this?

Speaker 17 (51:45):
Well, look on the eve of a massive clash against
the Chiefs in law TALKA. It's been more or less
always shaded by what says transpired over the last couple
of days. Ryan initially coach Glenn Jackson Jacko Heads, said
that they had faced some issues as they arrived into
Auckland to play to go on to Napier to play

(52:06):
the Canes. That's all he said that he's a weekly
press conference. But as of yesterday we've seen that media
outlet in Australia has published a photo which shows that
the Fijian drew were actually in the back of a
truck heading from Auckland to a hotel they were stayed
in for the night before flying out to Napier the
next morning. Mind you, the Drewer franchise is saying they

(52:28):
are satisfied what is transpired in terms of the action
taken by Super Rugby specific but the question that still
lingers on is what actually happened.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, we still don't really no other than the bus
wasn't there and they jumped into the back of the truck.
And then the next day it gets even worse when
they're in actually make it to Napier, the hotel, the Hurricane,
they're all at the same hotel. The Hurricanes get to
check out late and then go to the game and
they have to check out on time. What's up with that?

Speaker 17 (53:00):
Speaking to a couple of closed sources within right within
the Drewer franchise, the only disappointment at the moment they
have with the Canes is that they did not get tickets,
which which would have put their families and friends in
a better place in Napier. They had to resort to
sitting out on the embankment. That's what we've been told

(53:23):
the hotel. Yes, they were told to check out early,
and they claimed that the Canes checked out you know,
later on, and they were allowed to do that. Was
it mind games? Well, it was it favoritism. Nothing forthcoming
as yet. But I think the biggest, biggest question that
arises here is what the Drew Drewer camp is saying

(53:43):
is when the teams visit Fiji, and even this was
with the chiefs arrival, they get police ears Scots and
they got the best busses and they get transported to
hotels and things like that. But in this instance, landing
in Auckland and getting into the back of a truck
reminds you. We did ask the question why did they
get onto the truck because if they wanted, they could
have refused, but we've been told that they had to

(54:06):
get on and get based the rest. If not, they
would have missed the flight next morning to Napier and
perhaps are forfeited the game.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Against the Canes.

Speaker 17 (54:13):
We should have been even a bigger disaster.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I mean obviously not a legal thing to do either,
And thanks for running us through that interesting interesting FBC
sports journalist. It's twenty to six.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
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Speaker 19 (54:31):
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twenty seven, twenty twenty three is on the board and.

Speaker 20 (54:50):
The handshakes will do belong to New Zealand.

Speaker 21 (54:52):
Here they have won this semi final vote fifty runs.

Speaker 10 (54:56):
It will be the third final in the last six
icy See wine ball tournaments.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
Yeah, I mean, I think this is as tough for sure, tougher,
tougher flavor for me, tougher matchup than Dan Hooker was,
I mean busy of his one hundred percent, you know,
top of the game.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Sports huddle time, Andrew Gordy sports commentators here. Hey Gordy mate,
how I thank you, good to see you. Paul Allison's
here with us two News talk z best rugby commentator
Paul Good evening, Can I Ryan? Now let's say, Andrew mate,
let's up with the Fijian drewer. Paul were you. I mean,
that doesn't sound great. I mean, we obviously don't know.
I don't think it was a tactic from anyone to

(55:32):
try and put them off their game or anything. But
it's it's not great hospitality, is it.

Speaker 8 (55:37):
Someone's dropped the ball on this one big time. I
think it's it's really an embarrassment in terms of what
they've had to go through. If what we're hearing through
the Great Buyner is correct. The fact that someone had
canceled the bus. I heard that the bus what I
read originally with the bus was ordered, then someone's canceled it.
Who's actually canceled it? Was it a member of the
Fijian management team? Was it a member of the bus company.

(55:59):
We've got a to the bottom of this. The fact
that they checked into the hotel and one of their
rooms weren't ready, The fact that they had to get
out of the hotel early. I mean, it's just a
chapter of eras. And the reason they didn't wait for
the bus. As I understand it, it was three hour
wait for them. So the guys needed after the fight
from overseas, need to get to the hotel, rest up
and then get to themselves to nap. To the next day.

(56:20):
So this is a really embarrassing situation where the blame lies.
I guess we'll have to wait and see whether it
was poor organization at the drawer end or whether it
was logistically a logistical era at the New Zealand. And
if it was, they need to fix that up because
this is really poor in a professional rugby environment.

Speaker 22 (56:38):
Big question for me, why did they get on the
back of a truck?

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Ryan?

Speaker 22 (56:42):
If you and I arrived and to walkland the airport
now uber had been canceled, would you and I get
into the back of a truck? The answer is no, Mate,
The answer is dead.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
There's lots of them. There's lots of them, so waiting
China sought out twenty individual ubers would be quite difficult.

Speaker 22 (56:57):
Yeah, but okay, let's put another scenario to get the
Let's say the war retars arrive into Auckland and they've
got to travel down to Napier. Do you think the
warritars are getting onto the back of a truck? Do
you think any Why do they get onto the back
of a truck? It makes absolutely no sense. And we
can talk about how unprofessional it is, and you're absolutely right.
We need to ask, and we need to answer that question.
Who canceled the bus. That's a fair question that needs answering.

(57:20):
I've got more questions as well about the preferential treatment
with the late checkout. That's that's not right.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
That's not auful lot, because that's before they played too.

Speaker 22 (57:28):
Right, that's exactly right. So any any kind of that's
not on any instance we have or feeling we have
that a New Zealand team is getting preferential treatment over
a visitor. It's a dreadful lock. I just want to
see some accountability here. Can someone put their hand up?

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Andrew Gordon, I.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
Don't think it was a big I don't think it
was a big bus ride that they had on the
back of the luggage vand I think it was only
from the airport to the hotel in Auckland for the
overnight stay. But even so, it's still not a good
lot and those questions need to be answered. And let's
let's hope we get a very transparent investigation into this
so that it doesn't happen again.

Speaker 22 (57:57):
Even if it is to the hotel. Bridges not getting
into the back of a truck way.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
On God's green Earth. Thought i'd be getting in the
back of the truck and maybe this is actually just
the tip of the iceberg. This is just the tourist
experience people get now.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
And they welcome to Walkland.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
No wonder we're not back to pre COVID. Andrew Gordy
Paul Allison on the Sports Huddle.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
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Speaker 2 (58:24):
Andrew Gordy and Paul Allison on the sports Huddle tonight.
Lots of text firing in about the Fiji and drawer
that we've just been discussing and why did they end
up in the back of a truck when they arrived
at Auckland Airport. Lots of people are saying in Fiji,
it's very common, very often you will see people jump
on the back of a ute or on the back
of a truck to get around. So it's no big deal.
And yes, that is true. We've all jumped in the

(58:46):
back of a ute in Fiji or in the Islands.
But it's the fact that we sent we didn't have
a bus organized that they and in.

Speaker 22 (58:54):
The context of a professional rugby competition, yeah it's different.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yeah, all right, now speaking professional competitions, one that we're
hopefully going to win this weekend, and that is the
cricket the Champions Trophy Final. How are we looking, Gordy,
do you reckon?

Speaker 22 (59:07):
I reckon, We're looking all right. I wouldn't say that
we're favorites to win the match because this is against
India and a Champions Trophy final in Dubai. They'll have
all the support. It will feel like a home game
for India. I wouldn't read too much into the final
pool game, which saw India win pretty comprehensively. I don't
think you can use that as an indicator for what

(59:27):
we might see in the final, but certainly India are
the favorites. Black Caps have done very well to get
to this point of the competition, and when you're in
a final, anything can happen. They've certainly got the quality
of players and they've certainly got the experience within this side.
They're not going to be overawed by this occasion. You
would have heard Smith in the commentary before. This is
the third final they've made in White bull cricket in
the last six tournaments, so they're not going to be

(59:48):
overawed by the occasion. It's just where they can turn
up on the day.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Paul. Does this mean that we're back in love with
Gary Stead again?

Speaker 8 (59:56):
Don't if we really fell out of love with Gary Stead.
To be fair, I know that things didn't go well
for New Zealand at the T twenty Cricket World Cup
last year. But this team's performed well pretty much with
Gary Stead for quite some time now. And you look
at this tournament where they've actually played really well. Sure
they got beaten by India in that round robin Paul

(01:00:17):
play match, and just looking at this match on Sunday,
first ball at ten o'clock on Sunday evening, So it's
going to be a long night for a lot of
people I would imagine who will be sort of enduring
the early hours of Sunday, Sunday night and then Monday morning.
But this is going to be a lower scoring match
than what the black Caps have played on because India

(01:00:38):
played all their games in this tournament at Dubai, which
I think will give them some advantage in some way.
They know the ground, they know the wicket. The highest
score that's been scored on that ground in Paul play
was two hundred and forty nine New Zealand. As we know,
I've scored over three hundred on a couple of occasions
and spinners are going to be very much in the forefront.
So Santana Phillips, Ravendra and Bracewell will be very much

(01:01:00):
the key to New Zealand success. Can they win, of
course they can. All they start is favorites. I agree
with Andrew, we won't start as favorites. But I'd love
to see twenty five years ago being repeated when we
won in Kenyap and that ICC Champions Trophy when it
was a knockout tournament back then. So wouldn't it be
good to see history repeating itself, Names like Sir Stephen
Fleming and Nathan Asteal and Chris Ken's and Craig McMillan.

(01:01:21):
We've got the firepower. We just hope we can deliver
it on the night brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
I hope we can too. There'll be a few weary eyes,
I imagine on Monday morning. Then here back home in
New Zealand. Now staying in the Middle East, the Saudi
Provincial Investment Fund is offering apparently offering quite a sweet
maternity leave deal to the women's tennis players. Is this
a little anything more than transparent sort of attempt to

(01:01:45):
clean up their image? It's twelve months, as I understand
at Gordy, I.

Speaker 22 (01:01:50):
Mean what you just said, that's exactly what it is,
because that's what Saudi Arabia have been doing shamelessly, quite
openly for several years now. They've tried to do it
with leve golf, They've doing it at the moment with
heavyweight boxing. They've essentially bought heavyweight boxing, and this is
another attempt to clean up their image. Somewhat ironic, you'd

(01:02:10):
have to say. But putting all that to one side,
this is a good thing. This is a great thing
for women's tennis players, and so if they getting twelve
months of maternity leave, I don't really mind who's paying
for it. Necessarily. That's great for women's tennis and great
for women's players, is it not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
What's wrong with a bit of oil money anyway? Paul, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:02:28):
WTA Women's Tennis Association have been very instrumental with this.
The amounts haven't been publicly disclosed, but to be able
to qualify, there's about three hundred and twenty of the
world's top tennis players that would be entitled to access
this fund, You've got to have played eight WTA tournaments
or including Grand Slams in the last twelve months or
twenty four over the previous thirty six So it's not

(01:02:50):
everybody that plays tennis. You've actually got to be at
a reasonably high level to be able to do that.
And the program also provides grants for facility treatments and
supporting players and their family planning decisions and the like.
And Victoria Azarenka, who's the rep on the WTA Players Council,
has said that the response that she's got from her
colleagues has been absolutely incredible. This is a major step forward.

(01:03:10):
She had a son back in twenty and sixteen. Players
likes of Osaka and wasn't the Aki in townshend are
all mothers that are playing on at top one hundred
in the world. So this is a great step forward
for women's tennis. Whether it's coming from a sort of
a doubtful source in terms of Saudi money, yeah, maybe
there's a question mark over that, but what they're achieving
and what they're doing for women's tennis, I think is

(01:03:31):
a really positive step forward.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Take the win. Yeah, Hey, Gordy big day and at
Ellesleie tomorrow you'll be getting yourself all dressed up, no doubt,
No doubt.

Speaker 22 (01:03:38):
Mate, mzbk we first ever mzbke we Southern Hemisphere's richest race. Mate,
four and a half million dollars up for grabs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Look at you're mist frothing at the mouth.

Speaker 22 (01:03:47):
I am frothing at the mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Mate.

Speaker 22 (01:03:49):
This is huge, This is huge. Showing me another sporting
event where you can win four and a half million
dollars in this country you can't, Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
It's great. What time is it tomorrow?

Speaker 22 (01:03:57):
Four point thirty two pm? Mate, Make sure you tune
into tree you'll be on course. So w aren't you
surely crossed up to the ninth?

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Are you calling the race? He's gone?

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
Give us Give us a tip. Andrew four point thirty
two Race eight at Elslie. I've looked at some of
the name's public attention. I thought that was about the
school lunch program. I saw Evaporator, thought that was Phil
Goff going up in flames from Winston Peters yesterday. Checkmate
is in there as well.

Speaker 6 (01:04:21):
Give us a tip.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Evaporate.

Speaker 22 (01:04:22):
Evaporates definitely the one to beat, carries the best form
into the race at the highest crediential horse to ever
compete in New Zealand. That I did set a fact
it is. It is a fantastic, fantastic event. It's going
to be a great race. Looking forward to it. But yeah, evaporate,
that's where the smart money is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Don't forget n z B. Can we toy We might
be there tomorrow. Gordy, thank you for that. That's Andrew
Gordy's sports commentator and Paul Allison, thank you, Paul. News
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sure that they're not going to get into some floodwaters
and cause more problems. But they've managed to surround a
few cars and have blocked them in and it's a

(01:05:22):
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are getting ready and they are hunkering down. Expected to
hit the coast about ten o'clock tomorrow morning was the
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We're going to go to Stephen Jacoby. He's a New
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US President Donald Trump has today re paused you have
to stay with me for this introduction because it's actually
quite hard to follow. And that's not the fault of
the person who wrote it. It is the fault of
the president. US President Donald Trump has today paused some
of the tariffs on Mexico, Mexico and Canada that he

(01:07:03):
paused a month ago but unpaused earlier this week. Now,
any products covered under the free trade deal of the
new NAFTA treaty, they won't be subject to a tariff
until April the second. So this includes about half of
what the Mexicans export to the United States and about
a quarter for the Canadians. If you're confused, well a

(01:07:24):
lot of people are. Hopefully Stephen Jacobe from the International
Business Forum can help us make sense of it all.
He's with me now, High Stephen, how.

Speaker 23 (01:07:31):
Are you doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Thank you, Good to have you on the show. So
what happens on April second? Do you think if you
had a crystal ball?

Speaker 23 (01:07:40):
Well, April second is the day that the president is
meant to be taking decisions on a raft of advice
that he commissioned from US trade agencies on his first
day in office, on a Thursday in office. He didn't
do anything about tariff's other than to commission this advice.
It's due on the first of April. On the second
of April making those decisions, and we will then see

(01:08:01):
I think what he means to do about tariffs across
the board. I mean, we've seen these things in relation
to Canada and Mexico and China and steel now aluminium,
and he's talked about doing a whole other things. The
situation with him is very very unclear. Come April second,
I think we might see a little more about what

(01:08:21):
the game plan is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Why do you think he has capitulated? I mean, why
is he pulled back on some of these From where
I'm sitting, he's looking at the markets. The markets aren't
liking it, and so he pushes pause.

Speaker 23 (01:08:34):
Well, I think there's that, And I think he's getting
a lot of advice from and commentary from US business interests.
When we know that the car manufacturers went to see
him the other day and said, look, if you do this,
you're going to wreck the motor vehicle industry in North America,
including for US. So maybe it's not a good idea.
And you know, these things are more complicated than they appear.

(01:08:54):
The legislation he used to justify those tariffs on Canada
and was not trade legislation, was about national emergencies and
it's not very well suited to doing, you know, I
suppose what you call protectionism. But he's got a lot
of other trade legislation you can use, and that's the
advice he's going to get on the second of April.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
But that's more difficult to do, is And I mean
that's why he's gone with these emergency ones. And that's
why he's talking about the likes of fentanyl, you know,
coming in from China, because that justifies it under this
emergency legislation, doesn't it.

Speaker 23 (01:09:31):
Yeah, But yeah, that's right. I mean it's a justification,
but of course it has unforeseen consequences, such as the
chaos and markets and in relation to manufacturing in North America?

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Is this because Biden kept some of Trump's tariffs on
and there was some on you know, still on aluminium
that stayed, and there was some on China that stayed
as well. Do you think that there's obviously a base
of Republican base who does like tariffs and who isn't protectionism?
Are we entering a new era even once Trump leaves
office in four years? Are we is the world changing?

(01:10:06):
Are we turning away from free trade? Well?

Speaker 23 (01:10:09):
Well, I think it is fair to say that protectionism
and right is rising, and not just in the United
States but around the world. We've seen that, you know,
in the last you know, even as we've been doing
more trade agreements and trying to things up, free things up,
more restrictions have come into play. So we're used to that.
But I guess these moves in the United States taken

(01:10:31):
to a whole new level. And I mean it's part
of what Trump campaigned on. It's part of what he
and his administration pleably thinks in the Americans hast interests,
and you know, it's not necessarily the view of everybody
in the United States and around the world, but it
has impacts, and the real world impacts can't be ignored.

(01:10:52):
And as time goes by, we are going to see
those impacts.

Speaker 18 (01:10:55):
I mean, these new.

Speaker 23 (01:10:57):
Tariffs on steel now the minium are already causing a
lot of headaches for US manufacturing and that'll be compounded
as other sectors get added on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
The power of the United States is in decline, its
influences in decline. Is this the strategy that arrests that slide.

Speaker 23 (01:11:17):
I don't know, if it rests it or it continues,
it makes it worse accelerates that it makes it worse.
I mean, the United States is basically saying it wants
to take itself out of the order that has been
created around international trade. And you know it's at liberty
to do that and to live with the consequences. It's
an experiment that the American people are going to see,

(01:11:38):
you know, how that transition pans out for them. Meanwhile,
the rest of the world is also prone to these
sorts of things, but not at quite the same level.
And they're still in the rest of them quite a
bit of trade and business that can be done. We
shouldn't lose sight of that. But the United States is
a big player, no doubt about it, and a key
one for New.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Zealand, absolutely number one for Meatex sports too. Stephen, thank
you for that. Stephen Jacobe, executive director of International Business
Forum with US tonight. Interesting, isn't it? Because trade is
not just good for making money, it's not just good
for livelihoods, it's not just good for well trade, but
it's also good quite good for peace, isn't it. When
you think about it. The more you trade with other countries,

(01:12:18):
the more open you are to one another, the more
you exchange your ideas and you meet with them, and
you go and experience the culture. All those things quite
good for peace too. Barry Soap is here. Next sixteen sorry,
thirteen after six.

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We're going to go to Peter Lewis, who's our Asia
Business correspondent. He's with us every Friday evening. So China
is heading back on America with tariffs of its own,
not on everything. It's not across the board, but we'll
tell you what exactly it is. Some US goods have
been targeted by that. Also, China targeting around five percent

(01:13:03):
GDP growth of twenty twenty five. That's their goal, their
stated goal, the public one anyway, So we'll find out
more about why, how, and whether it's going to be
believable if and when they get there. Sixteen after six Now,
Barry Soper is our senior political correspondent. Barry, welcome back,
Hello again, right, good to see you now, good to
see the back of Adrian or two.

Speaker 6 (01:13:26):
Poor old Adrian or well it's not poor old Adrian,
or when you think about it, you know, here's this
man that rul's really at the center of the economy
since twenty eighteen, leaves without notice and doesn't give an
explanation to anyone, and he's either accepting absolute defeat and

(01:13:48):
what he set out to do, or he's saying, look,
I've turned it around, We've got inflation back under control.
I've done the job. Now I'm out of here. But
wouldn't it be nice to hear from him?

Speaker 9 (01:13:59):
I think he to New.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
Zealand that he's a man that's been pillared up hill
and down Dale, has been praised in some quarters, but
won't come out and either defend himself or you know,
take the accolades. I mean, who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Yeah, we just don't know. I think on Wednesday I
said it. It sounds like he's thrown as toys, you know,
it sounds like he's don't have a wobbly because otherwise
you go to that very expensive conference they organized, wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
You Well that's extraordinary, isn't it. On the eve of
the conference he goes, he leaves, and he's meant to
be cheering the conference. I mean, it's it is quite
extraordinary the way he parted, But you know, it's been
an unusual governorship anyway since he's been there on and I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Think most people it's like Andrew Bailey. Once they're gone,
they're gone, and people move on, don't they. Phil Goff,
Well he'll be moving home.

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Well, it wouldn't it be nice to hear from him
as well?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I think we've heard too much. Actually that's the problem.

Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
Well that is a problem, But you know, I would
have loved to have heard his real when he woke
up in London and realized that because of what he
had said at Chatham House, Chatham House rules didn't apply,
and he was reported widely. I would have liked to
have heard what his reaction was to what would seem

(01:15:17):
to be, on the face of it, a fairly minor indiscretion.
But nevertheless, when you've got somebody as sensitive as we've
got as Donald Trump and the White House, you've got
to be aware of that sensitivity. And certainly Winston Peters
is aware of.

Speaker 20 (01:15:32):
That because we need America, whether we like it or not,
in terms of we've got aluminium going into that country,
we've got steel products going into that country, and how
are the tariffs?

Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
Yes, exactly, but how are the tariffs going to be handled?
If he was allowed to get away with something like exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Not very diplomatic from him. Now another resignation. I feel
like we just have a long list. But Richard people
of course went from the White Tangy Tribunal.

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
It's interesting, isn't it, because he was appointed just last
year last October? I think it was, so was there
a very short time? He said he did a lot
of reading over the Christmas break and decided that really
the Tribunal on many counts is wrong. It's a body

(01:16:18):
that doesn't have any teeth really at all. And what
he's saying is though he said there should be a
High Court judge there rather than what are there at
the moment, essentially Land Court judges. And he said that,
you know, it should be a constitutional issue rather than
a target to Penawa, an issue that doesn't concern everyone

(01:16:41):
across the board. So you know, he's decided his infinite
wisdom he can't make the change that he believes the
tribunal should be changed.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Too, so he's moved on.

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
Interestingly, now I think Ryan is what are they going
to do because there is a move certainly within the
government ranks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
To review the Tribunal exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:17:01):
And to make it a very different body to what
it is today. So now that Prebo has gone, maybe
you'll be brought on back on board as an advisor as.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Part of some rais again exact. I mean, the surprising
thing for me this week from reading that and about
him and talking to Richard Prebble, is that there are
twenty of them. Yes, I'm sitting on the Tribunal.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
Well, you know it's a gravy train, isn't it. I mean,
it has been on about that for years that you know,
it keeps lawyers employed virtually constantly. And it's a bit
like the Treaty Settlement's Bill that a lot of people
have a lot to say on it, but it means
nothing in the end because it's not going to become young.
And similarly, the Tribunal is in the same situation.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
Now the overseas doctors are going to be allowed to
train and come straight into GP practices.

Speaker 6 (01:17:47):
Yeah, and I think that's a good thing. I mean,
you know, we have to presuppose that a doctor who
has trained in medicine overseas, we have the same bodies
as I understand it, human beings international, you'd think to
come to New Zealand, there's no particular issue that they
would have to be concerned with. Nevertheless, they I guess

(01:18:08):
there's cultural issues that they have to contend with. So yeah,
they're going to be allowed to go into practices, do
their two years internship if you like, and then practice
medicine the way they should be practicing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
It, and just finding the Maori Party has been worn
by police. This is an electoral tournament. They just haven't
gotten yet. It was due last year and it was
December and they're still not there.

Speaker 6 (01:18:30):
Well, you know, and it's all very fine to say.
Don't worry John Tammaher says, the president of the party.
Don't worry the natives. They're not playing up too much.
Will will come into line? Well, they haven't come into line.
They are part of the electoral process like anyone else
and they should be held accountable like every other party

(01:18:50):
that's in that place.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Yeah. Here Barry Barry Soaper News Talks. He'd be senior
political correspondent. Twenty two minutes after sex Ryan Bridge, there
was a report done by Deloitte into health New Zealand
which was released today and you can actually go on.
I mean it's probably not up your really, maybe it
is up you rellly. If it's up youre really go
and have a look on the Health ENDZED website. It's
under publications and it goes through line by line how

(01:19:13):
badly mismanaged Health end Z's funding was the key finding
finding Number one from this report was loss of financial control.
They didn't know, They weren't sure how much money they
had coming in and how much money they had going out.
And when they tried to make savings of five hundred
million dollars to make up a shortfall, they didn't set

(01:19:35):
any didn't have a spreadsheet, didn't have a plan, didn't
have reporting and didn't have governance around it. So how
much did they end up saving? Nothing? Well, it probably
won't shock you. That's the sad thing about it. But
one other thing that's come out of this report, Health
New Zealand was using a single Excel spreadsheet to track

(01:19:56):
twenty eight billion dollars of public money go figure twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
After six croaching the numbers and getting the results, it's
Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and MAS Insurance and
Investments grew your wealth, protect your future news dogs Envy five.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
So leaders in the EU are all singing Kumbaya from
the same song sheet at the moment. This is after
their meeting to support Ukraine, which they have signed a
deal to do. They've also signed a deal to boost
their collective spending on defense, which is good. It's actually
a good outcome for everyone. Really. It's a good outcome
for Europe because it means that they have the money

(01:20:37):
and know that they're going to have the ongoing money
to support Ukraine. It's a good outcome for Ukraine because
they know they've got support. But it's also a good
outcome from America because they can stop spending so much
on it, which was their intention, so they kind of
got what they want. Interestingly or uninterestingly, Hungary's Victor Auburn
said no, I'm not signing that, but his mate, which
is the Slovakian leader, did sign it, and they was

(01:20:59):
sort of will he wont to, So he was one
of the twenty six who did sign this deal. So
that you go, Europe's come together, with the exception of
just Hungary. Grayham Bridge twenty six minutes after six now
Peter Lewis is with us after six thirty. I mentioned
the other day he'll be here actually closer to seven.
I mentioned the other day that that deal that's been
done between the Hong Kong firm and the Americans to

(01:21:22):
sell their majority stake of these years in this port company.
Now the port has rights to two quite crucial ports
through until about twenty forty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
In this area.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
And we know that Trump is hot on Panama, so
we'll ask him from their perspective in Hong Kong, why
would they give it up? Why would they sell those
years down? Peter Lewis, our Asia business correspondent. He's up
after the news. Here is Donald Trump talking about, you know,
the two astronauts, the astronauts that are in space, been
there since June last year. I think it was meant
to come home. It was meant to be a short trip.

(01:21:56):
Didn't work out anyway. Trump has spoken today apparently about.

Speaker 24 (01:22:01):
We're coming up to get you. I've authorized Elon. I said,
can you get him out? Because you know they've been
left up there. I hope they like each other, but
they've been Maybe they love each other, I know, but
they've been left up there.

Speaker 8 (01:22:15):
Think of it.

Speaker 24 (01:22:16):
I see the woman with the wild hair and good
solid head of hair she's got.

Speaker 6 (01:22:20):
There's no kidding, there's no.

Speaker 24 (01:22:22):
Games with her hair. But h and you know there's
a danger up there too. They can have some failures
up there that would be very bad. You've got to
get him out.

Speaker 6 (01:22:32):
So I've was I've authorized elon.

Speaker 24 (01:22:35):
You know, we have two people up there that Biden
and Kamala left up there, and he knows it very well.
I said, are you equipped together me? He said, yeah,
he's got a starship and they're preparing.

Speaker 18 (01:22:48):
It right now.

Speaker 21 (01:22:49):
And like, don't just say we're sending a ship up
to the stay station to get the instronauts, like it
takes like a second, you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Know, just all over the shelf like news talk, zidbon a, do'.

Speaker 8 (01:23:06):
Away cord Nor.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
I love to celebrate baby.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I just work away, whether it's macro micro or just
playing economics. It's all on the business hours with Ryan
Bridge and Player's insurance and investments. Grow your wealth, protect
your future, use talk sedb.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
In Basil flowers, roll my name in sid.

Speaker 8 (01:23:35):
Talking to myself for hours. Sit as you don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Good evening. It's Friday night. You're on news talk ZIBB
twenty four minutes away from seven. We're gonna go to
Gavin Gray in the UK shortly, but first Peter Lewis
is here, our Asia Business correspondent, Peter Good evening.

Speaker 9 (01:23:54):
Good evening, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
So we have been hearing a lot from the White House.
We've been hearing a lot from the over offers in
particular about what's going on with this trade war, but
not a lot from your side of the world. So
give it to us straight. How's China feeling? How are
they responding and retaliating to this trade war? Well, I mean, in.

Speaker 9 (01:24:12):
What's been really an incredible week for tariffs, because they've
been on and off and suspended and then unsuspended. It's
hard to keep track. But actually the tariffs on China
have been fairly consistent. There was the ten percent tariffs
that were imposed about a month ago. They were the
first tariffs that were actually that Trump actually put into effect.

(01:24:34):
China retaliated to that in a fairly restrained way, and
then we had a second round of tariffs when those
tariffs on Mexico and Canada were imposed. At the same time,
another lot of ten percent tariffs were slapped on Chinese imports,
so that takes them up to twenty percent. It means

(01:24:54):
the effective tariff rate that China is paying, if you
take into account also tariffs that are still in place
from the first Trump administration, is about thirty three percent.
China firmly rejects all of this. It says the issue
of fentanole is just an excuse to try hurt China's

(01:25:16):
economy and trade relations. And the Chinese embassy in Washington
did react with very very strong language. They said, if
the US wants a trade war, a tariff war, or
any other kind of war, we're ready to fight them
to the end. So this is pretty strong diplomatic language

(01:25:40):
any by any stretch, even by the wolf warrior standards
of some of the Chinese diplomats that we've heard from recently.
But they're not going to budge.

Speaker 23 (01:25:50):
They are going to have.

Speaker 9 (01:25:50):
You know, every time China slaps on tariffs, they're going
to US slaps on tariffs. They are going to retaliate.
The problem is, eventually they'll run out of big to
retaliate on because the US buys more things from them
than China does. So what China is doing at the
moment is it's really disengaging from the US altogether. It's

(01:26:13):
building up other markets in Southeast Asia, in emerging markets,
and really is doing far less trade with the US,
even though it's trade surplus with the world is surging.
It was almost a trillion dollars last year. But their
strategy is really to make sure that they're just not

(01:26:33):
dependent at all on the US in any way. And
when they do retaliate, they do it in a fairly
surgical way. They put tariffs on a lot of agricultural products,
which tends to come from Republican Midwest states, So farmers
there are sort of up in arms about what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Yeah, they are quite cunning with it, don't they. Now
they've also sort of target the China hairs around this
is for GDP for twenty five.

Speaker 9 (01:27:03):
Yep, that's right. That came up this week's two Sessions,
which is the annual parliamentary meeting that China holds that
the growth target is exactly the same as it was
the last two years, around five percent. Last year, not
surprisingly they met it. In fact, they exceeded it slightly.
They made five point two percent GDP. So this target

(01:27:26):
they will meet again by hook Ard by crook, because
unlike in other economies around the world, this is a
command economy. So when the Chinese government says GDP will
grow about five percent, that's what happens. Whereas in other
economies around the West and in New Zealand and elsewhere,
GDP is a sort of an output from all the

(01:27:48):
economic data. You add up all the investments or the
trade or the personal consumption and then you come up
with GDP. Or China does it the other way around.
It says this is our GDP, and then it comes
up with all the investments and trade and personal consumption
that's required to meet that, so it will get there.
The problem is China's economy is suffering at the moment,

(01:28:11):
particularly from the fact that it depends too much on
exports and there's just not enough domestic consumption. And this
is the real issue that China has got to deal with.
It's got to boost domestic consumption. It appears at last
the Chinese leadership realizes that because at the two sessions
this week they made boosting domestic consumption the number one

(01:28:33):
priority for government, central government, local governments, and the economy.
Easier said than done, though people just don't want to spend.
At the moment, they are saving about seventy five percent
of their income in China, and that's partly for structural
reasons because if you lose your job, there is no welfare.
There is not free healthcare either. As people found out

(01:28:58):
during COVID, employment rate, particularly among young people is very high,
so confidence is very low, and it's been battered further
by what's happened to the property market. So trying to
get the confidence up and getting people to spend in
China is not as easy as it seems. But that
is definitely the challenge and the problem that the Chinese

(01:29:20):
leadership has got to solve this year.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Well, yeah, I mentioned very hard to try and get
the economy going. When you're saving the seventy five percent
of your income, that's incredible stat We know Trump wants
Panama and he wants more American control in the Panama Canal,
and we heard this week about this deal. It was
a Hong Kong based company that's selling I think of
ninety percent stake to an American outfit and they've got
the control of these two key ports in this area

(01:29:45):
through till twenty forty seven. What was the reason that
the firm wanted to sell in the first place. Do
we know what deal was this, Well, this is C. K.

Speaker 9 (01:29:57):
Hutchinson. This is Leekar Shing's company, his main company in
Hong Kong. They have a number of subsidiaries, one of
them of which is its ports business.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
And C. K.

Speaker 9 (01:30:07):
Hutchinson operates ports all around the world, not just in Panama,
where it does have two ports, one at the entrance
and one at the end of the Panama Canal. Now
Trump says that because of that the Panama Canal is
controlled by the Chinese government.

Speaker 23 (01:30:26):
Well, C. K.

Speaker 9 (01:30:27):
Hutchinson is a publicly listed company here in Hong Kong,
a very large company as well, operates under Hong Kong laws.
It's hard to say that because of that, the Chinese
controlled the Panama Canal. But nevertheless, Lee Kashin, who is
a very very canny operator, is one of the world's
richest men, saw an opportunity here to basically sell the

(01:30:49):
whole global ports business to this consultium that's being run
by black Rock, a US asset management company. And that's
exactly what it's doing. It's selling ninety percent of its
port's business. It's just maintaining its ports business in Hong
Kong and mainland China. The consultum will have a ninety
percent stake on that and in return C. K. Hutchinson

(01:31:13):
will get about nineteen billion dollars in cash, a huge
amount of money. It's a significant part of the company's
market cap. Its share price has absolutely surged in the
last couple of days. It's gone up close to fifty
percent as a result of this deal. But it just
cements le Khar Shing's reputation as once again being a

(01:31:35):
very very canni operator because he's got out of his
port's business, add a huge premium to what it was
estimated to be worth, and is also avoided now a
lot of political problems in Panama and with the US government.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
So very canny deal, Kenny, indeed. But also you would
have thought nullifis the argument that that it somehow was
under the control of mainland China, right, otherwise they want
to let him.

Speaker 9 (01:32:00):
Sell absolutely right, absolutely, I mean this notion that somehow
China controls the Panama crown and sets rates that ships
pay is just a nonsense. And you know, in the fact,
what Panama does is the rates are the same for
every ship from every country. They're not based upon where

(01:32:24):
the ships come from. They're based upon the tonnage and
the size of the ship and what you're taking through
the canal. But they're certainly not set by the Chinese government.
But President Trump is claiming a victory here and is
saying that, you know, his threats to basically seize the
Panama Canal have had some reward, and now he's escalating

(01:32:45):
his rhetoric about taking control of Greenland annexing Canada as well.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
So you know there will be no.

Speaker 23 (01:32:51):
End to this.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
Peter, thank you for that fascinating stuff. Peter Lewis Asia
Business correspondent, just gone fourteen minutes away from seven. You're
on News Talk to you be for your Friday evening
Coming up next. Gevin Gray is in the UK. He's
got the latest on this coalition of countries, who's in
and who's out for Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
From seven on News Talks. It'd be great to have
your company tonight. Gavin Gray's are UK correspondent. Gavin good
evening either, So as Zelensky and EU leaders, they've got
the show of unity going. They are all singing from
the same song ship. We're not quite all of the
European leaders, but many of them are joining on board
for the coalition.

Speaker 12 (01:33:41):
Yeah, but you're right, no, not all of them are
on the same page on this, of course. Now the
US Ukraine talks appear to be heading to Saudi Arabia
next week, President Zelensky saying that he hopes it'll be
a meaningful meeting. In other words, security guarantees for him
and probably mineral agreement rates for America. So a lot

(01:34:02):
at stake here, but he'll come, I think slightly buoyed
by the fact that it's been revealed around twenty countries
and now interested in joining what's being called a coalition
of the willing to help Ukraine. Now, not all the
countries are offering troops necessarily on the ground, indeed, probably
far from it, but some could provide other support. They're

(01:34:23):
largely taken from the Commonwealth and from Europe, spearheaded by
the UK and France, and the Prime Minister of the UK, Sakistama,
really believes that this is the way forward, that once
a peace deal is struck, and it does look like
we're perhaps edging that way after Ukraine's hand is being forced.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
By the US.

Speaker 12 (01:34:41):
How it is implemented, and Europe simply does not trust
Vladimir Putin to maintain the peace if there is no
peacekeeping force within and over Ukraine. So they want air support,
they want troops on the ground, and combined with all this,
Europe has announced massive package of roughly one point five

(01:35:04):
trillion New Zealand dollars in defense, which the European Commission
President Ursula vonder Lyon said it was important and a
watershed moment for Europe.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
It's got to Germany. We've got five members of a
far right group there have been jailed for plotting driver
through the government, kidnaped the health minister.

Speaker 12 (01:35:24):
Yeah. The group were associated with something called Citizens of
the Reich, whose followers believe that the German Empire continues
to exist today even though it collapsed in nineteen eighteen,
and investigators say it was led by Heinrich the thirteenth
Prince Rus, a German aristocat. Anyway, five members of this

(01:35:44):
group have been jailed now. Four of the group were
described as ring leaders and it has been called a
terrorist organization, and what they wanted to do was to
use violence to trigger civil warlike conditions in Germany. And
they hoped that as they started their campaign they would
be joined by disgruntled members of the security forces and

(01:36:05):
also just disgruntled people who would join their campaign. Now,
the group had planned to kidnap the health minister called
Carl Lautobach. He was an advocate of very strict COVID
nineteen measures during the pandemic, and the group had said
as well that they would be quite happy to kill
his bodyguards if it was necessary. So this was an

(01:36:26):
important and an enormous threat, according to the Interior Ministry.
And they'd also planned to sabotage the power grid as
well in parts of Germany. So the four defendants described
as the ring leaders were sentenced to between five and
nine five and eight and a half years in jail.
A fifth defendant received a two year ten month sentence

(01:36:50):
following an almost two year trial.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Ram good Matevin, thank you very much to that, Devin Gray,
UK correspondent. It is eight minutes away from seven here
on news Talk ZBB.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
News Talks ZBB. It is coming up to five away
from seven. That is pretty much it for us today.
Thank you so much for listening, for all of your feedback,
your emails, your text. Really appreciate it. Been a good
week this week.

Speaker 17 (01:37:20):
Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
We've chewed through some appointments, haven't we. Preeble's gone, Adrian
All's gone. Who else have we lost? Foreun's gone. We've
kept the Pope, which is good. The Board of Health
in z is coming back. Someone wants to take out
the board of this company. It's all go and it's

(01:37:41):
what are we going out to tonight?

Speaker 23 (01:37:44):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:37:44):
So amongst all that turmoil, we need something comforting, something familiar.
Lady Gaga is back. Lady Gaga has released her seventh album.
Someone I Think noted to me today that she seems
to release an album whenever there's a recession, which is
a very interesting observation. The new album it's called Him.
It's a dance pop album. This song is called Disease
and it is out today.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Enjoy You're weaking everyone see you on Monday. Disease can

(01:38:46):
get disease.

Speaker 14 (01:38:48):
Everyone could kill you.

Speaker 16 (01:38:53):
Wat you down like weekly Dat's all about?

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