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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to
coverage likely no one else.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
News Talks Heavy.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Afternoon.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Welcome to the show. Coming up today, David Seymour on
the changes that he's making to the school lunches program.
We're going to get you across the proposed breakaway T
twenty competition. This is the cricket. We'll also get you
across the new twenty two hour Quantus flight to London.
And I've read the report that kicked off the Dame
Noles dramas. I'm going to read some.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Bits to you, Heather dupericy Ellen.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
So it's over. The Andrew, formerly known as Prince, is
now just Andrew mount Batton Winsor. He is just a
regular civilian muggle. It was announced last week, of course,
but the stripping of the prince ship only formally happened overnight.
And how it happened was that Charles issued a letter's
patent under the Great Seal of the Realm, and he
decreed that Andrew mount Batten Winsor shall no longer be
entitle to hold and enjoy the style, title or attribute

(00:58):
of his Royal Highness and the titch dignity of Prince. Now,
I think, for the most part, least for the royals themselves,
the bleeding is stemmed here. The damage has been stopped, right,
it's cut off now. The thing is, the rot is out.
But make no mistake how bad this has been for them.
They are going to pay for this for a while.
And what's been bad about this is not so much

(01:19):
what Andrew did or did not do, because you can
look at the guy and you could go it's just Andrew,
gross old Andrew. But what's been damaging to them is
what's been revealed about them. That they let him live
in Royal Lodge without paying really anything in the way
of rent for about twenty years. And the suspicion that's
now developed, and I think this is worse, the suspicion
that's now developed that the Queen's own money was used

(01:42):
to pay off Virginia Dufray so that her jubilee year
wasn't spoiled. The sense that they tried to hide this
stuff from the public, that they went out of their
way to hide this stuff. That's the most damaging thing here, really,
And they will continue to pay for this for years,
because tripping him of his princeship is shattering the illusion,
isn't it. I mean, there's something magical about the royal family,
even though we know, really in our hearts so that

(02:04):
there's just humans like the rest of us. There is
something mystical about the fact that they can track their
royal lineage back over a thousand years. They are humans, yes,
but they're the best of humans. You have to be
born into that special little club until you realize actually
they're not the best of humans after all. It turns
out princes aren't that special. It's just a title. It
can be taken away, and it has been taken away,

(02:24):
and that shatters the illusion.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
I don't think they are in any kind of immediate
trouble as a family, but we all know that the
allure and the power of the Royal family diminishes with
every passing generation, and more and more countries consider republicanism
as they as the Royals become more and more irrelevant. Well,
Andrew hasn't changed that, He's just sped that up.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Ever, duper c ellens.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Heather Andrew Mountbatten Windsor still sounds flash Well that's true.
Nine two nights who is the text under standard text
fees apply now the government's boosting incentives to bring Hollywood
back to New ze and overseas productions can now claim
a twenty five percent rebate on what they spend here.
That's up from twenty percent, and it's all about making
New Zealand more competitive. On the other hand, Australia offers
up to forty percent, Canada and the UK around thirty

(03:11):
percent also, and this is a change for the first time.
Post production and visual effects companies like Wet Effects can
apply for this as well. Now with us to discuss,
we have Annie Murray, the head of the New Zealand
Film Commission, and Harry Harrison, who's the vice chair of
Screen New Zealand International. Hire you too, Harry, Are we
actually competitive though? Because I just read you those numbers right,

(03:33):
we're at twenty five percent, but Australia is at forty percent.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Well, not all of Australia is at forty percent, and
there are some underlying factors here in New Zealand that
do a low us to punch above and wheat, So
there's an exchange rate differential anywhere between Australia and New
Zealand straight away. That's usually in our favor of five
cents six seven cents, and there are some ease of
doing business benefits of being in New Zealand that don't

(03:59):
exist in Austria, unionization and penalty rates.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
We're a more.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Efficient business model here in New Zealand, which it's kind
of triple bottom line. You have to look for the benefits,
but we can sort of stack up. The forty percent
in Australia really doesn't apply to all productions. There are
some states that offer a bit of a kicker, but
that's not even guaranteed either. So I think what we

(04:25):
have as a twenty plus five incentive that gets you
to twenty five, that's certain. It's quite straightforward. It does
allow us to punch a bobber weight. It's if we
were at thirty or forty percent, we would be the
most globally competitive country in the world. I wish we
were sort of higher, but it's it allows us to
play in the sandpit.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
What's brought us on Harry? Has there been a lack
of interest?

Speaker 6 (04:50):
There has been, There has been the last since September
October November last year, there's been a marked decline and
inquiries in studio bookings.

Speaker 8 (05:01):
There is a global.

Speaker 6 (05:04):
The business model, the studio streaming business model has changed.
It wasn't sustainable. There's been consolidation, fewer projects, lower budgets,
and you know, when the world is busy and usually
got quite a lot of activity, when the world is
a bit quieter, it's a lot harder for us to
win projects down here to southern Hampshire and turning a

(05:26):
distance makes a difference.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, I believe that. Annie, listen, can you explain to
me this change about the visual effects companies and stuff
like this? I mean this has been read by some
as just a backdoor bailout for wetter effects. Is that
what's going on?

Speaker 9 (05:38):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, what happened here is that the visual effects companies
have always been able to apply for a rebate. What
this does is it brings the very high value ones
into line with other productions for the live action productions.
So live action have always been able to apply for
the extra five percent, So now we're matching that of
the visual effects company is able to do the same.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Now, Annie, do you think what are you hearing? Are
people interested in this? People want to make some films here?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Very interested?

Speaker 6 (06:06):
Yes, we have names for us.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
Annie, Oh, I.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Can't do that.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
They are all confidential business discussions. But philipon Mossman from
my team was in Los Angeles in the last months
having conversations saying, look, these are some of the things
that we may be able to change. If we did,
how would that look for you? And there was a
lot of interest. So we're really optimistic that these changes

(06:32):
are going to make the different.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Harry, do you know anything about what's going on with
Trump's one hundred percent tariffs?

Speaker 6 (06:39):
I don't know if anything's going on with them. It
was it was a tweet. It's not policy, and my
contacts in Los Angeles are they're quite clear that there
are a number of other initiatives that they would prefer
the administration tools.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Harry, you sounding you're making it sound like he sent
a tweet and he's not planning to do it. Is
that what you think is going on?

Speaker 6 (07:00):
I believe that the US industry is urging the government
over there to look at other initiatives well ahead of
doing that, and I believe that he's got buy in
from his Hollywood ambassadors have agreed sort of come around
to some of the initiatives that they're suggesting.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Are you as hopeful as this any Well, what we've
seen is that some American jurisdictions have increased incentives in
the last few months, so there has been a response.
California's done that New York has as well. So Harry's right,
there has been an industry response which has meant that

(07:42):
more production is staying in America. Hence the need for
us to make some change to make our offering a
bit more competitive.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, hey, guys, listen, thanks very much. I hope it
goes as well as you think it will. Annie Murray,
New Zealand Film Commissioned CEO, Harry Harrison, Advice Chair of
Screen New Zealand International, hither if you think the Andrews
is over your dreaming, there's still more to come. I
know there's more to of course, there's more to come.
He's just been actually I should tell you that he's
just been requested to appear before Congress for an interview

(08:10):
about Epstein, which means, of course, says more to come,
because now you're going to have the debate event should
he gain? Should he do that? And they're going to
put the pressure and blah blah, blah. Anyway, Gavin Gray,
are UK correspondent, will talk to us about quarters to
seven about that of course, says more to come, but
he's out of the working Royals now so it doesn't
affect them as much. Quarter past.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
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Speaker 2 (08:29):
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Speaker 4 (08:33):
B Lord, have we got a day of sport today? Right,
I'm going to get you across the cricket in a
tack very shortly before this half hours through, I'm going
to read you some of the report on Dame Knowles.
Right now, it's eighteen past four Sport with.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Tab bed live with in play are eighteen.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Beb responsibly Jason Pine Weekend Sports hosters with me. Hello Piney,
So I what a.

Speaker 10 (08:53):
Dumped me for those two things, But I appreciate that
you've put me on anyway.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
I know I want to hear what you've got to
talk about, which is the All Blacks. How's it going
to go against Scotland.

Speaker 10 (09:01):
I think they'll be okay. I like the team that's
been named Scotland have come into this game off the
back of a pretty convincing win, but it was against
the United States. They feel as that they've got an
opportunity to do what they've never done before that has
beat the All Blacks. They've never done it. Thirty losses
and two draws is the record that they have against
the All Blacks. It is the one hundredth anniversary of Murrayfield.

(09:23):
If that means anything, I guess there'll be some extra
emotion wrapped around it. I just look at the All
Blacks team the way they played against Ireland, particularly in
the last twenty minutes last week hither and I feel
as though if they go out there with the same intent,
they'll be fine. No Scott Barrett, no Jordy Barrett. I
don't know that that's a huge problem in terms of
the playoff they've got coming. In so long winded way

(09:44):
of saying that, I think the All Blacks will be
two from two on their Grand Slam Tour come breakfast
time Sunday.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Did I read correctly that we have played against them,
the Scotts in Scotland for one hundred and twenty years,
and they have not been able to beat us. That
is correct, one hundred and twenty years.

Speaker 10 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we don't play them every year,
but I did read a stat that they talked about fortresses,
you know, and you can talk about Eden Park being
the all Blacks fortress. Well, Murrayfield's an all Blacks fortress.
Two nineteen s trait wins at Murrayfield for the All
Blacks against Scotland, so it's quite the stat.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Okay, And listen, we've got the Derby tomorrow, the New
Zealand Derby. Who's going to now? Don't say the Phoenix
because you love the Phoenix. Tell me the truth. Who
do you think?

Speaker 11 (10:21):
So?

Speaker 10 (10:22):
I think the Phoenix will win the game. I think
the Phoenix will win the game. I'm hovering above this
without emotion. I'm speaking in the very cool headed, logical fashion.
I think they've got the best chance they've had since
the first Derby last year. They've played well this season
so far. Auckland, yes, top of the table, but I
don't think they've quite recaptured the dominance of last year.
I just get a funny feeling and it'll be proved

(10:43):
completely wrong, probably if history is anything to go by,
that the Phoenix have a really good opportunity. Tomorrow night
should be a nice night, should be a good crowd.
I hope I'm talking to your Monday Heather with the
first ev L Wellington went over Auckland f C.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay, thank you, Piney, We'll see thanks, We'll see how
that goes to you. Jason Panne Weekend Sport Hosts. Right,
we'll take a break, and then after that, I'm reading
you from the Dame Noles Report for twenty.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Hard questions, strong opinion here the duplicy ell and drive
with one New Zealand hand of power of satellite mobile
news dogs.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
They'd be ah.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
There are huge cues apparently at US airports because of
the government shut down over there. Jonathan Kurzley will talk
us through that when he's with us shortly now for
twenty three so on, Dame Knowles, I have finally managed
to read the Stronic Report, and I'm going to read
you parts of the Stronach Report.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
Now.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Remember this is the report that kicks everything off. Read
Dame Noles, right, this is the report that talks to
the players. This guy's brought in, he talks to the players,
he outlines the problems in general terms. It's presented to
Dame Noles for her to participate, and then the whole
thing just turns into a mess and she stood down,
So here you go. Problem number one from the players,
fear and psychological safety. A strong theme was a sense

(11:51):
of fear within the environment. Players talked about being scared
to speak up, scared to make mistakes, scared to ask questions,
and scared to be themselves. The fear was not described
as one off or occasional. It has been around for
a long time. Some shared that they don't feel like
they can give honest feedback because it won't be received
well or because it will come back on them later.

(12:12):
I need to tell you, by the way, this is
the first time that anybody has got their hands on
this report and read it right, So you're hearing it
for the first time right now. The source of fear
seems to come from a few things, inconsistent reactions from leaders,
unclear expectations, and a history of seeing others shut down
or left out after speaking up. Some players describe feeling
like they were always walking on eggshells. As you number three,

(12:34):
as you number two is mixed messages and contradictions. I'm
just gonna leave out the boring stuff. You get to
the juicy stuff. Is she number three? The weight of
not being good enough, of not feeling good enough. Many
players talked about a constant undertone of not being good enough.
Even when feedback was meant to help, it often came
across as negative or critical. This led to players feeling
like they were always trying to avoid failure instead of

(12:54):
reaching for their best. They described an environment where the
tone can be quite intense and the feedback more about
what's wrong than what's working. Some shared that they began
to second guess everything or withdraw a bit just to
stay out of the firing line. Issue number seven inconsistency
and shifting standards. Players notice that the behavior and mood
of the coaching and support staff can change noticeably depending

(13:16):
on whether the team is winning or not. When results
are going well, the environment feels more relaxed and positive,
but when the team is not performing, expectations shifts suddenly
and the tone becomes more intense and critical. There was
also a sense that individual players are treated differently. Some
are held accountable for small things while others are not
challenged on bigger issues. Another example was the fitness standard

(13:37):
and how some were held accountable to it and others not.
It was clear Number nine commitment to high standards. It
was clear that the players believe in the importance of
high standards. Players acknowledge they don't always meet the standards,
and they want to be held accountable when that does happen.
The concern was not about the existence of standards, but
about how they are implemented and communicated. When standards feel
unclear or inconsistently applied, it undermines the purpose. And the

(14:00):
report goes on and on in that vein. Now, this
is what was put to Dame Knowles. This is what
she seems to have rejected. You can and then, then,
of course the thing blows up and she has stood down.
You could judge for yourself based on what I've just read.
Are the players being sissies or other coaches being bullies.
We'll talk to the sports huddle about that when they're
with us later in the program.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Heather duper Cela, Right, Well, the.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Other news out of the US is Nancy Pelosi is
giving up Congress after forty years. Trump was, as you
would expect, unbelievably gracious.

Speaker 12 (14:28):
She's an evil woman. I'm glad she's retiring. I think
she did the country a great service player retire. I
think she was a tremendous liability for the country. I
thought she was an evil woman who did a poor
job to cross the country a lot in damages and
in reputation.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
I thought she was Wow.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
I mean, maybe when New Zealand dis fished with the
Dame Noles situation, they come and deal with this situation,
see if they can resolve this, because wow, there's no
love lost, there is there anyway. We're going to take
the news and then after that we're off to the
US to have a chat to Jonathan Kurzley.

Speaker 13 (15:04):
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Speaker 14 (15:21):
Something?

Speaker 15 (15:21):
Mamy baddle not any need.

Speaker 11 (15:25):
Is little.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's Heather dupic Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage
like no one else.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
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Speaker 4 (15:47):
Lord, have you seen the latest little Marty Party? Yep, yep,
that's still at it so much for that Sea spy
ed the one who is the former staff of the
one who's the son of the martyr, the Mary Party
MP Mariamnali. He's taken to social media having another crack
at John palmer head and this I mean, like, honestly,
wasn't Baden on the show Baden Barber on the show

(16:08):
three days ago telling us at least there's a ceasefire
and they're going to stop firing. The Gaza ceasefire is
more successful than the Maldi Party sees fire at the moment. Anyway,
we've got Barry Soapers down down in Southland. He's returned
to his roots down there just for the weekend. So
as a result of that, we've got not Jonathan Jonathan's
with us and I. Then we've got Azariah Howl from

(16:29):
Parliament and to explain all of that standby so we
can hear the ins and outs of that drama. Here. Finally,
the whole report has been read. I found the part
that Nooles wouldn't discuss it but brought in the lawyers
straight away. Player feedback has always asked for in all sports.
Hopefully people will look at it from both sides now, Heather,
next text, I think you've just read out the wrong part.
Read the report, read the netbook, because surely what you've

(16:51):
read out just describes a typical high level sports coaching environment.
YEA twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
It's the world wires on news talks drive hundreds of.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Flights from the US have been canceled because of the
government shutdown, air traffic control there can only handle ninety
percent of the flights it normally can. A former if
AA boss says, this is a big problem.

Speaker 11 (17:11):
You know, at any given moment over the United States,
you've got probably seven thousand airplanes. Take seven hundred dollars
out of the air, and you're going to have an impact.
You know, a lot of these are connecting flights. So
if the airplane doesn't go for me to be it
can't go from.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
B to C.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Tesla shareholders have approved a paypackage for Elon Musk that
is worth get us a trillion US dollars. This is
if he hits all his targets. Here's what Elon had
to say about it. Maybe they won't even be money
in the future.

Speaker 16 (17:42):
Well, money back might be measured in terms of white edge,
like how much power can you bring to bearer from
an electrical standpoint.

Speaker 17 (17:53):
So I guess what I'm saying is hang on to
your Tesla Starck.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
And finally, a police officer has come to the rescue
to end and escaped pigs rampage in Buffalo, New York.
And the reason he did it was because it was
his peg. Actually, the officer told the animal control guys
trying to catch the pig to let him take care
of it because it was his pet.

Speaker 9 (18:12):
Pet.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Pet's name is Breakfast. The pig's name is Breakfast. This
woman was attacked by Breakfast during his rampage. Thankfully she's uninjured.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
My second thought was, this is ridiculous. This is a pig.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
On Victor Place in the City of Buffalo.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Jonathan Cursley, US correspondence with US. Hello Jonathan, Hello Heather.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
Happy Friday to.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
You, mate, Happy Friday to you too. How long are
the lines at the airports?

Speaker 18 (18:48):
Yeah, well they're going to get bad because if effectively
in the next few hours, we're going to see this
reduction in es but in plays in the sky come
into effect because they simply aren't in Other traffic controllers
on the job because of the government shutdown, they're not
getting paid.

Speaker 19 (19:01):
They're deemed crucial workers, so they're supposed to be turning up,
but they're now running into the problem where workers aren't
getting paid, so they're deciding not to turn up to work.

Speaker 8 (19:10):
So what this is going to mean is there'll be
thousands of flights across the United States of America tomorrow
that will be canceled, that will be delayed, and is
going to have a major impact at forty major airports,
including Los Angeles, New York, Washington, d C, Chicago, Atlanta,
the world's busiest airport is going to be impacted, Dallas
Fort Worth in Texas.

Speaker 19 (19:29):
I mean, the list just goes on and on and on.
And what this is now doing is spreading the pain
far beyond federal workers of this government shutdown, straight into
American travelers trying to get away in the lead up
to what is one of the busiest holiday periods.

Speaker 8 (19:43):
Of the year here in the United States.

Speaker 19 (19:45):
And that is Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Yeah, that's awkward, isn't it. On the bright side, is
the fat shot getting cheaper?

Speaker 19 (19:52):
Yes, this so called fat shot, as President Trump once
described it as ozembic and a few other weight loss
drugs are about to get cheaper because he's decided to
strike a deal with a whole bunch of medical companies.
Making that announcement inside the Oval Office today a little
bit of drama. One of the medical executives collapsed while
standing behind President Trump. Just as they were making that

(20:13):
set announcement. But it is going to reduce the cost
by hundreds and hundreds of dollars for Americans. Obviously, overhere,
medical insurance is the key to getting access to healthcare.
But these deals are going to make it a little
bit easier for people, overweight people to get access to
this drug. And we heard doctor Oz TVs owned doctor Roz,
who's now part of the Trump administration, sprooking and selling

(20:36):
this very much with a political message in mind ahead
of next year's midterms, insisting that Americans could lose some
sixty one billion kilograms combined because of this deal. I
don't quite know how you work out those numbers, but
somebody's drawn them up on the back of a napkin
and presented them to it and he's read them out
in front of the world.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Brilliant, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Now?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
What would you do if you've got a trillion dollars?

Speaker 20 (21:00):
Ah?

Speaker 19 (21:00):
What could you do with the trillion dollars? I mean,
you could probably fly yourself to Mars, you could probably
buy yourself a fair few islands. You could have more
money than the GDP of some Pacific island nations. It's
just extraordinary. This Elon Musk deal, isn't it. It's going
to equate over the next ten years, or it could
equate to two hundred and seventy five million dollars a day.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
That's how big this paid deal is for him.

Speaker 19 (21:25):
It's just I mean, you can live off the interest
of a fraction of that. I mean, come on alone,
spread them well.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
I reckon, I share it around. Thank you very much, Jonathan,
appreciate it. Jonathan Kurzley, US correspondent, nineteen away from five.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Here the Duplessy hour.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Ye listen, the school lunches thing has changed because obviously
going for three dollars a meal is just was not
going to work because the compass group was not going
to work. So as a result, David sem was going
to spread it out to ten different providers. Are the
ad the meals are going to cost now about three
dollars fifty there can be as much as five dollars,
And he's going to be with us to talk us
through that. After five o'clock. Let me get you across
what's going on with cricket. Okay, So there are reports

(22:01):
today and they are from conversations I've had. It is
I'm not even going to tell you these are reports.
I'm just going to tell you what I know. Okay,
there are moves to set up a Rebel cricket competition.
When I say rebel, just like it is an independent
T twenty cricket competition. It will be privately owned, so
it's not going to be owned by New Zealand Cricket
runs in January every year. A bunch of former Black

(22:22):
Caps are involved, Stephen flem and Daniel Vittori and so on. Also,
David Howman, who used to run WADA and is currently
the chair of Wellington Crickets, is apparently involved as well.
They've gone as far as registering a bunch of names
at the company's office for it. The Players Association is
apparently involved in this as well, has been reportedly touring
the country selling the idea to players. Howard would work. Basically,

(22:44):
it sounds like all six major provinces loved the idea
and they would basically represent the teams from the sounds
of things, so you have Auckland, Wellington, Canterbury, Otago, Northern
districts of Central Districts and New Zealand Cricket got wind
of this in about September, and so it cuts their
lunch right because if it runs in January, it means
we're going to start watching this T twenty competition, which

(23:04):
is going to be like the Big Bash in Australia,
or like the South African one, or like a mini
version of the IPL. It would be running here in January,
which means you're going to start watching the T twenty
because it's going to be as exciting as all hell,
and you're not going to watch the domestic competition. Hoe
watches the domestic competition. No one watches the domestic competition.
So this is a fantastic idea, but it does cut

(23:25):
into seas lunch New Zealand Cricket's lunch because what little
money they get from the domestic competition is going to evaporate.
Is we're going to be watching this and also they
lose the power and everybody hates it when they lose
the power. So when they heard about it in September,
they got the consultants Delutte involved and they started they
wanted Deloitte to do a report on is this the
right way to do things?

Speaker 21 (23:43):
Is this what?

Speaker 4 (23:44):
And then it all went to all the players Association
and the major provinces and stuff. Was like, let's talk
about it, and they all apparently went, nah, not going
to talk to you about it. So it's unfortunate because
New Zealand Cricket realizes it's definitely happening. We can't do
anything to stop it. Anyway. I think this is a
great idea. I'm full noise into this. We're going to
talk to Dylan Cleve. No one is talking about it right,

(24:06):
no one wants to talk about it for obvious reasons
because the cat's out of the bag. We're going to
talk to Dylan Cleaver, a Herald sport writer, about this
after five o'clock and if he says it's good, then
you know it's good. Sixteen away from five politics.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
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Speaker 4 (24:23):
It's fourteen away from five with me. Right now, we
have Azaria Howell, who's of course in our press gallery
down here Newstalks been down in the press gallery. Hello
is Isaria.

Speaker 22 (24:31):
Hello, good to be with you.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
It's good to have you with us. Okay, So tell
me what Edu Kappa KINGI said.

Speaker 22 (24:35):
Yeah, eduk KAPAKINGI, who's been the spokesperson for toy two.
Te tid T obviously spoke about the split from tet
Patti Malti before. He's doubling down on those concerns about
the leadership of tet Patti Maldi. The last name Kappa
Kingiy obviously a familiar one to lots of people. Edu Kappakingi,
the son of Maria Meno Kappa Kingi, who the CO
leaders have earlier this week called rogue. So today we've

(24:57):
had an update from Edu Kappa Kingy in terms of
what he wants to see from Tepatzi Maldi.

Speaker 16 (25:02):
THEO needs to be a reframing and a genuine resetting
of the coppoppa, a new leadership, a new executive model.

Speaker 22 (25:11):
So again he's calling for John Tammyhadi to step down
as the party president and we'll look back. In terms
of the situation with the EWE Chairs Forum, they've confirmed
that MP Takutaferis, who was also called rogue by the
CO leaders, has agreed to a meeting next week. There's
no confirmation though from Mariamno as to where things are at.
I tried to speak to her actually a bit earlier

(25:32):
in the week. I said how are you? She said good,
but then said, I'm sure you want to know how
I actually am. I said, of course I did, but
then she said she couldn't say anything, So maybe one
for people to read into. Edo Kappakini, though also throwing
a further allegation into the mix here. Tepati Maldi had
previously emailed supporters with a link to documents containing serious allegations,

(25:53):
including that claimed that Edu Kappa Kingi allegedly threatened security
staff and also that there were alleged consumers zons of
an overspend a his mum's office. Eduk Kapakini responded to
these in a social media social media rather video today,
accusing Tapatimori of using this sort of as a distraction technique.

Speaker 16 (26:11):
All of those things alies, but even if they were true,
what does that have to do with what I called
them out for in the first place, of being a
toxic leadership environment. There was all an effort and that
is an effort to deflect away from the truth and
to not actually address the issues that are happening inside,
which proves my point that this is a leadership beyond accountability,

(26:36):
beyond integrity, and beyond honesty.

Speaker 22 (26:38):
Well, a previous EWEE chairs for a meeting suggested that
people involved with this should stop getting into these social
media fights. That has seemingly not come through though a
to Edu Kappakini. Also Kitty Tummy Hitty who's the wife
of Rahwudi Waitetti and John Tummyhitty's daughter, who also claims
that she's previously stayed silent and now is the chance

(26:58):
for her to speak. So both of them posting quite
significant things on social media. But for now, really all
eyes will be on the Takuta Feris meeting next week
and really what else plays out on social media over
the weekend.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Absolutely, Now it sounds to me like the boot camp's
pilot actually didn't give us anything worthwhile.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (27:17):
Well, the final report into that youth Offender Military style
Academy pilot that's been released and it does show what
we were expecting. Really, reoffending did occur, although they do
say it was a lesser scale than those who did
not attend. Overall, oddo Atamadiki. They're saying that there are
aspects of this one that have been a success. The
report has found improvements in mental health outcomes as well,

(27:39):
but the agency is really promising to learn lessons as well.
From this, the report shows a few things that could
have been done better. Cultural elements could have been strengthened,
that's what they say, and also spoke about the pace
of change. They said the rapid pace of design and development,
short time frames for implementation also restructures at ot. You know,
having a better time frame would have allowed that to

(28:02):
be to roll out better in terms of the style academies,
but there is more time for a further rollout something
that is potentially on the cards on an Atamadiki's military
style academy programs. Lead Janet Mays, who spoke about that
legislation for young serious offenders, says that this sort of
still appears to be before the House and is talking

(28:22):
about what the work is going on now.

Speaker 23 (28:24):
What we're doing is working behind the scenes on planning
for future iterations of the military style academy penning the
outcome of that legislation.

Speaker 22 (28:34):
So still on the cards, but lessons will be learned
from the first iterations the boot camps in the future,
though if they do happen, expected to look a little
bit different. Chris Hepkins, though, is here accusing the government
of trying to sort of dress up the results to
make them look a bit better.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Honestly, thank you very much, Azaria appreciated. Azaria, how seeing
your political correspondent. This is the kind of thing.

Speaker 16 (28:54):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
I just I can't get over the stuff with the
Malori party. This is it a kupakini. Even though I
knew that this was going to play out in this way,
He basically says when he went when he split from
the party, he knew that it was going to be
dragged through the media. I didn't care, and I still
don't care. There might be some kind of reputational damage,
but I've never really given a shit about about that. Now,
how do people vote for this nonsense? I mean, this

(29:15):
is not how professional adults behave right, If you're having
a fight with somebody, if you having a bit of
a disagreement with somebody in your outfit, you don't go
on social media and have a rant about them, which
is just weird, aren't they? Eight away from five?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking
breakfast is Trump?

Speaker 24 (29:34):
Tariff's a Supreme Court and the potential fallout if you
can't convince the justices. Bill Ranch is a former United
States Undersecretary for commerce for industry and security. Would you
expect the Supreme Court to rule against the administration?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Hard to tell.

Speaker 25 (29:45):
My current thinking is yes, they probably will go against
the president, either five to four or maybe six to three.

Speaker 24 (29:51):
Okay, if they do that, are refunds going to be
the outworking or is that not real?

Speaker 25 (29:56):
Well, under the law they should be provided the administration
can make it hard or easy. Trump may not want
to give them money back, but if the Justice's rule
that the terrorists were illegally collective, he'll have to give
them back back.

Speaker 24 (30:08):
Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a
Vida News Talk.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Zb Ah, Heather, these guys in the Martyr Party are
showing a sad, low, ineffective level of an emotional maturity.
Well that's one way of putting it a five away
from five. Now listen, I was listening to the news
last night, This is the Tally News. It was TV three.
I was watching it and they were covering off labor
rolling out the free civical screening. You know, there was
a policy yesterday and then this happened. It's already free

(30:33):
for some freehiel Maori specific and have a community services.

Speaker 10 (30:38):
Cart if Labor succeeds at the twenty twenty six elections,
screening will be free for all women aged twenty five
to sixty nine.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
I was a surprise to me because I thought we
weren't doing that stuff anymore, where some people get free
stuff because they are of a certain ethnicity and other
people don't get it because they're of the wrong ethnicity.
So anyway, David Seymour's with it. David Seymour, he said
he was going to stop this stuff, so he's with us.
Next on another man, I might ask him a question
about that, and just a tick Quantus. Now, Quantus has
has unveiled the plane that's going to fly the twenty

(31:07):
two hours. This is the Sydney to London route that
they're going to be doing. The plane is in a
three fifty one thousand ul R and the ULR stands
for ultralong range, so the name is a a three
fifty one thousand ultra long range plane and they've unveiled
this as the plane to get us excited about this thing.

(31:27):
I think this is only this is going to start
taking off in early twenty twenty seven. You're gonna have
to wait a little while to be able to. But
the question is what I mean, is this going to
become our preferred route to be flying over to London?
Like you could, you could do whatever. The thing is
that in New Zealand sort of halfway does for you
or you know whatever, you can go on various ways,
go Singapore or do whatever. Or do you want to

(31:47):
just fly over to Sydney and then do that little route?
Is that going to be the one that gets you
there and the best way anyway? I don't know. Twenty
two hours on a plane. Oh, you'd have to be
in business to make that work because anything else would
just be an absolute punished for your butt, wouldn't it.
We're going to talk to Jeff Thomas about this as
to whether this is a game changer or not. They've
also have you seen the new class They've got economy

(32:09):
plus Economy plus it's an upgraded economy. Does it sound
a little bit like hmm, maybe premium economy? Like maybe
Cam Wallace who was at in New Zealand and then
went to Quantus went to Quantus and went, hey, I've
got an idea. They're doing a thing called premium economy.
How about we do it? We call it economy. Plus
we'll say it's not the same thing, but it really
is anyway, Jeff Thomas, as I say with us in

(32:30):
about twenty minutes time, heither read the Dame Noles report
that you read out. Can you confirm this is the
report from the only two to seven players who can play,
not the full thirty one players and staff. Yes, it's
only those, Heather. If what you read out is correct,
then at least some of the netball players concerns are
well founded. You can't have a couch a coach hand,
having favorites or applying agreed rules inconsistently. Here that these

(32:50):
silver fern players need to get a grip. High performance
sports players need to be mentally tough, not socki bubbers
or talk to the sports huddle about that they're going
to be with us after the half past news right now,
though US is coming at you fast.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
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Speaker 4 (33:36):
Afternoon, the school lunch program is getting a shakeout. The
beleaguered caterer Compass Group has been dropped as a supplier
to primary schools. Ten other suppliers have been chosen and
while the intermediate and secondary meals cost about three dollars,
the primary meals will cost up to five dollars. David
Seymour is the Associate Education Minister and with US now
hi David hey, is this a vote of no confidence

(33:57):
in Compass?

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Not at all?

Speaker 14 (34:00):
Will continue to deliver meals for the high schools and intermediates?
I would guess that is actually the bulk of the
meals that we are delivering. They faced some very big
challenges that weren't of they're making a subcontractor failed in
term one of this year. There was a lot of
publicity around that we fixed it with the help of Compass,

(34:21):
and that's why they continue to supply the bulk of meals.

Speaker 5 (34:25):
Why is the.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Meals costing a little bit more with the primary schools.

Speaker 17 (34:30):
Well that they're not.

Speaker 14 (34:32):
All of the prices have gone up from the starting
point of three dollars, but there are some which are
more expensive because they are in hard to serve areas
out in remote parts of the country. Those ones are
nudging up towards five dollars, others are a lot lower,
and that gives you an average of three dollars forty six.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Did you see that the Ministry of Education has written
to Glory of Christian School.

Speaker 14 (34:56):
I hadn't seen that, but I'm not surprised. Surprised, Well,
I think the stories that have come out of that
place for a long time are pretty serious. And the
obligation to give each child in this country, no matter
who they are, what their ethnic background, what their religion,
they should have an education that allows them to make
choices in life. That's something that should be upheld everywhere,

(35:19):
and if it's not being upheld at a particular place,
education should be onto it.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
If the ministry does shut the school down, which is
kind of what it seems it's going to do, does
that solve our problem, because won't those kids just go
into homeschooling and essentially stay in the place.

Speaker 23 (35:34):
Well.

Speaker 14 (35:35):
Of course, different government departments have different responsibilities of an education.
Are there to make sure that any school running is
run well. On the other hand, there are other areas
such as Ministry of Social Development and Ordering a Tamaiki,
the Children's Ministry, whose job is to protect the welfare
of children. They each have a job to do. Whether

(35:55):
a child is in a state school or homeschool is
secondary to those other department's jobs.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Did you see apropos the Labor policy announcement yesterday that
at the moment cervical screening is free for Maori and
Pacifica but not other ethnicities.

Speaker 14 (36:10):
Yeah, and look at this is one of these things
where a government that's come in. If you take something
like bow screening, that was fifty years of age if
you are Maori or Pacific sixty if you're a European.
We worked on the evidence, we said, actually, race doesn't
make a difference to bell cancer. So now it's fifty
eight for everybody. And there's lots of things like this

(36:30):
that we're slowly changing. FARMAC used to have a whole
wing of Maori workers on the basis of really nothing
because medication is medication and we just need to get.

Speaker 17 (36:41):
It to all people.

Speaker 14 (36:42):
So there's examples throughout the public service where people who
like me believe our common humanity is much more important
than anything dividing us. We're frustrated, but we're changing it
and we're fixing what matters.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Each each day are you going to fix this one?

Speaker 14 (36:58):
Well, not me specifically, that would be up to Simme
and Brown, the Health Minister. But certainly the influence I
try and bring to bear within the government is that
university universal humanity message is important. We've had big successes
with the history curriculum, with the obligations on school boards
and in the University of Auckland lately.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Are you going to put pressure on Simi interchange or
are you going to walk away from this one?

Speaker 26 (37:22):
Well?

Speaker 14 (37:23):
I can't think of any I've walked away from before.
Certainly I believe that we should be using need not Race.
I'm responsible for the Need Not Race circular being put
into the Cabinet Manual and we're going to be pursuing
this one as well.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Great, David, thank you for that. Appreciate it. David Cmore
Associate Education Ministers to keep an eye on that one
of the cervical screening and I'll give you an update
on Gloria of Allen. Just to tickets coming up twelve past.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Five to do for sel.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
A bunch of former Black Caps, backed by Indian investors
apparently are looking to start a new T twenty cricket competition.
It's going to run in January if it gets off
the ground and it involves all six major provinces. Dylan
Cleaver is a sports ride a high Dylan, Hey, Yane,
I'm well thanks, do you reckon? This is good for
the sport?

Speaker 27 (38:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
Well, like all these things, I guess the devil is
in the detail. But certainly, as a broad concept, I
can't see too much wrong with having foreign investors in
your game. And certainly the names of those black apps
that were announced as potential investors, like Stephen Fleming and
Daniel Vittori, they are exactly the sort of people you
want to keep in the game. So broadly, yes, it's

(38:30):
certainly an exciting concept for very least.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Does it not strike you that I think this will
get more people watching cricket than watching our domestic competition
which is on at the same time.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
Yes, well absolutely. You could have asked even hardened cricket
fans about domestic cricket and they wouldn't have a clue.
Like I saw it frame somewhere as a rebel takeover
of the domestic game, you could also frame it as
the savior of the domestic day.

Speaker 4 (38:56):
The trouble is, I mean, were just to say then
if hardly anyone watched domestic cricket, it's not really cutting
the lunch of New Zealand cricket, is it, Because that
doesn't seem like there's a lot of revenue to lose.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
No, And I think the major associations, which are the
six associations that kind of govern and minister domestic cricket,
they've realized they've taken the Super Smash, which is the
twenty twenty version of the domestic game as far as
they can possibly take it. There is no more revenue
to be squeezed out of that particular sponge. So if

(39:29):
you've got private investors coming in and saying we can
run this tournament, we can do it more effectively, more efficiently,
and we can get more bums on seats, then you know,
on the surface, again without knowing exactly the details behind it,
it would appear to be a win win.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Do you think that it's going to retain players in
the country, because I noticed it clashes with the Big
Bash over in Australia, and it may clash to the
South African because it's played in January, right, so it's
also going to clash in the South African competition, I
think so is there a TARTS that we managed to
keep out good players or do they head off to.

Speaker 7 (40:02):
That anyway, I think some of the best players will
probably still get those kind of eye watering offers that
would make a decision to stay very difficult. But I
think it would definitely help keep more players in the
game if the salaries were boosted in line the whatever
private investment they got A lot of that will depend

(40:24):
on broadcast eels, TV deals, what extra sponsorship they can
bring in. But for the past ten years, the Super
Smash has been it's kind of like a Village Green tournament.
Compared to the other T twenty franchise tournaments around the world.
We get no high profile or very few high profile
overseas players coming in. Yeah, the Big Bash is tempting

(40:48):
for our best T twenty players because they get the
highest salary over there. South Africa has become more tempting,
as we saw last summer with Devin Conway and Kane
Williamson playing there. There's also in a Miller window, there's
a TEA twenty franchise tournament running out of the United
Arab Emirates by former Entitite chief executive David White. So

(41:10):
there's a lot of pull on our players for private
franchise tournament, so we've got our own one again. Without
knowing the detail, it would seem to be something that
we should at the very least investigate closely.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Yeah, totally, Dylan, thanks very much, Dylan Cleaver sports writer.
Will talk to the sports huddle about it though with
us after half past five. This is the update really
quickly on Gloria L. Ministry of Education has formally notified
GLORIAVL Christian School it is considering canceling the school's registration.
They met with the school this morning. Gloria VL wants
additional information to support preparation of its response to this.

(41:43):
They've been given a one week decision. They can get
the information through and then the Ministry will make a
decision quarter past hither this alternative cricket competition will just
be domestic cricket and drag no players, no viewers. Bring
on the Aussie Big Bash, best competition on the planet, Tony.
It's got to be better than what we're doing at
the moment, though, mustn't It Past five So, as I
was telling you earlier, Quantus has unveiled the first images

(42:03):
of the plane that it's going to use to fly
from Sydney to London. This is the A three fifty
one thousand ULR. That's the name of the plane, and
it's going to fly for twenty two hours, which means
this is going to be the world's longest uninterrupted flight.
Jeff Thomas is an aviation commentator and founder of Daily
Airline News, and he's with us.

Speaker 9 (42:20):
Hi Jeff, Greetings, Heather, how are you, Jim?

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Do you like what you see?

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, Look, it's going to.

Speaker 9 (42:27):
Be a great airplane for Quantus, And of course it
all depends the plane looks great, of course, but it's
all it's what's on the inside that really matters to passengers.
And you know, according to Quantis, they're going to have
more room and economy. They're going to have more room
and premium economy, more room and business class and they're

(42:48):
going to have a first class section. So it's all
about the room and the space, particularly when you're going
to be flying for twenty plus hours.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Mate, could you imagine doing twenty two hours an economy.

Speaker 9 (43:01):
Well, there's economy and there's economy. You know, if you're flying,
you know between Auckland and Wellington, then economy is pretty tight.
But if you're flying on an airplane that's got four
and five inches more leg room, then it does make
a bit of a difference. And they've also got this
wellness area between premium economy and economy where you can

(43:24):
stretch your legs and you know, do calisenic that tho.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
I mean you looked at the pictures because if it's
anything like the little area they've got at the moment,
you can barely do anything.

Speaker 9 (43:33):
Well, it is going to be a bit bigger. But
what I love swapping this completely around is what a
New Zealand has done and have those sky beds, and
that's something that Quantus hasn't done. And that's that to me,
is you know, to purchase a sky bed for four
hours or six hours, whatever it happens to be. That

(43:56):
to me is the solution for that sort of a flight.
And the other thing too is that the premium economy
in an New Zealand is actually the most roomy out
there as well, So you know, what you get with
an New Zealand is comparable, if not better than what

(44:18):
Quantus is offering on a longer range flight.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Now, do you think that this potentially does have the say,
the potential to cut the lunch of a New Zealand
because do you imagine this will become the preferred route
for us to go to London, fly over to Sydney
then over to London. Just do it real quick.

Speaker 9 (44:35):
Look, I think their New Zealand is looking at doing
London NonStop or London one stop itself. The new CEO
has been talking about that. It's something that a New
Zealand does want to do. Going via Los Angeles as
I used to do, I don't think is an option
because Los Angeles is a nightmare from the point of

(44:55):
view of transitting through to London. It may look at
something like Perth Auckland to Perth to London for instance,
one stop through Perth and do it that way. They
are also looking, i know, at going from Auckland over
the North Pole to London as another option as well.
So there are options. It all depends on how many

(45:17):
passengers you want to carry on the aeroplane and what
fares you then charge. So the Quantus flight, for instance,
that goes from Perth to London, the configuration of that
seven eight seven is only two hundred and thirty six passengers,
whereas in New Zealand has two hundred and sixty five
in their equivalent aircraft. So you do lose passengers, you
have to lose passengers for the fuel, so there's a

(45:39):
bit of a trade off there. So there's some interesting
back room mathematics to be done by a New Zealand
as to how they might counter this interesting stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Jiff, thanks very much. Jeff Thomas, aviation commentator, founder of
Daily Airline News, twenty two hours on you. But that's
hard work. That'll be hard work.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
The day's newspakers talk to Heather first, Heather dup Cellen
drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite
mobile news talks.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
End be Heather has cut the lunch your news saying no,
it's not it's not. But I take your point, which
is I have overset it on this program, and I
was aware of that, so I will not say it
for the remainder of the program. So you can breathe easy.
That's the last you will hear of it. Reading that
text out five twenty five. Now, I think I am
more interested in seeing how Zoran Mandarmi goes than any

(46:30):
other Democrat that I can remember in a very very
very long time, because I genuinely am not sure if
this is going to go brilliantly for him and he's
the next big thing, or he's the next big disappointment,
because there is no way is there, like no way
at all he's going to be able to do everything
that he's promised. I mean, he might be able to
do a rent freeze in New York City. Sure, that's
an easy thing to do as a stroke of a pen,

(46:50):
off you go, but might backfire, like it might lead
to fewer housing units being added, which ultimately makes the
problem worse. He can pick something out else to do.
He could do free childcare, hugely expensive. He could add
a two percent tax on incomes over one million dollars,
but he may find those incomes start disappearing from his city.
Either way, he's going to have to pick some of

(47:11):
his pet projects and go with just a few of them,
because doing absolutely everything is just not going to happen,
and that's going to lead to disappointment, surely for the
voters who truly believe he can do all these things.
Mike cut though, says that the disappointment will not be
great because if there's one thing we learned from Donald Trump,
It's that breaking promises doesn't actually really matter that much
if you represent something to voters. Donald Trump represented the

(47:35):
anti establishment, so people stuck with him even when he
broke his promises. Mamdani represents the anti Trump, so I
think people will stick with him even if he breaks
his promises. I actually suspect, by the way, that this
is going to be very good for Donald Trump. I
think he's going to love having Mandarmi around because he
will be able to use everything that Mam Darmi does
to berate him and the Democrats. Every time a promise

(47:58):
is broken. He's going to because because Mamdanei is the
sort of him, right, So ma'm daney just becomes the
bad guy in all of his stories from from here
on and he pumps himself up. However this goes for
Mam Damie. I think we can all agree this is
now turning into a must see show.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
What ever, duplicy Ellen.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
Heather, they just need to make half the plane a
bar with a corner. We can just push the drunk
people in for a sleep. I'm not gonna lie to you.
If I was on that flight, I'd want to be drunk.
Wouldn't you like for the duration of it, because it's
probably the only thing that's going to help you sleep
when you're sitting on your butt in economy.

Speaker 17 (48:28):
Can every plane just be like that? I'd be a
fan of that.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
No, it's not the worst. I mean they used to
do that. Remember when they had the cigarettes and the booze.
It was wonderful back in the day before my time,
sports huddles would be next.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
The name you trust to get the answers you need,
it's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand coverage
like no one else us talk.

Speaker 17 (48:51):
They'd be Mummy's mom.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Dani described the other day as jasindadu and with a
bed Thank you, Stevens. That's an image, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Have you heard about what's going on in Auckland in
terms of the old department store Here we were saying, oh,
it's the end of department stores. Faradays is set to
open a department store at one three to one Queen
Street in Auckland. I know, it's like what happened with
Smith and Goey's. These guys are opening mid next year.
We're going to talk to the chief executive of Faradays
after six. Right now it's twenty four away.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
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Speaker 1 (49:29):
Find your one of a kind.

Speaker 23 (49:38):
The the balancing acts. I suppose that I have to
be able to put my truth out there, so I'm
in my conscious face. I've never been so conscious of
my life.

Speaker 28 (49:47):
That was a.

Speaker 15 (49:48):
Servious moment for Elie Carte.

Speaker 25 (49:51):
I think all the staff and teammates were holding their breath.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
You think he's.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Okay, but arenas double Anca it is a dangerous tennis
player taking her lightly.

Speaker 11 (50:00):
But I am very confident. You know, sixteen players, pretty much,
sixteen players.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
That have ever walked this earth have beaten the Big
four four and I'm one of them.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
All Right, sports tittle this evening Nick Berley News Talks.
He'd be christ Church sports reader and Levina good sports journalist.
How are you too?

Speaker 15 (50:16):
Cureda?

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Do I hear that, Levina? Is there any world in
which Ali Catoa should have been allowed on the field
after that head knock? Ah?

Speaker 15 (50:23):
It was horrendous, Like between you and I had a
I think someone really needed to step in nice and early.
If you've had a clear head knock in the warm up.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
That should be.

Speaker 15 (50:34):
Game over, no debate whatsoever. We've got to get past
this whole She'll be right, mate. Culture, I mean, player
safety is there's nothing more than player safety. That's like
when it comes to optional it's just about player safety.
And when a player ends up in surgery after being
cleared to play, that tells you that the protocols or
the like, the courage to enforce them, they just weren't

(50:56):
good enough. Like it was horrendous. It shouldn't have happened.
He literally had fluid drained from his brain and it
wasn't right. And if it was a relative of mine
or a friend of mine, I would have said you're
not playing, buddy, And that got lost.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
I don't understand how this happened because the very people
who should have kept him off the field, which are
the medical team, actually assessed him after this. Yeah.

Speaker 20 (51:19):
I think that's where the confusion rains, isn't it either?
Because the Tongland coach, Christian Wilf, immediately after that game
said all protocols were followed and he was very comfortable
with two what he's described as very experienced sports doctors
clearing Ali Catala to play, and then later earlier this
week or a few days later, we're then told no,

(51:40):
if we hadn't seen the vision from the warm up incident,
we wouldn't have let him back on the field. It
seems like a real blame game at the moment, but
as Levin said, I think fundamentally it comes down to
a duty of care around the team, management, around teammates.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Look.

Speaker 20 (51:58):
I've even heard it suggested that phaps the host broadcaster,
given they aired the pictures in the pregame, someone someone
should have someone should have done more from a host
broadcaster standpoint to go, look, if we're if we're putting
these pictures to air, perhaps someone should go, hey, guys,
just in case you haven't seen this, this is pretty
damning and this guy shouldn't play it.

Speaker 25 (52:19):
Well.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Surely, surely these images.

Speaker 20 (52:21):
From the broadcast truck can easily be brought up on
a phone and iPad down to it.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
But a medical doctor, a team trainer in the uniform.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
The medical doctor in the tongue in uniform is looking
at this guy and going, naw, you're all good. They
had all the people.

Speaker 20 (52:36):
Well, that's the bit I'm not one hundred percent clear
on because of the way I've seen some reporting where
they've backtracked on on that during the week, and I
think that's where it gets.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
It's got even more confusing.

Speaker 20 (52:48):
And this is just a total rarity where you know
we're used to obviously the HIA process during the game,
but it's clear as day that there needs to be
something a lot more stringent and enforced and the warm
up because he should.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Really later not my doctor just saying it couldn't about
me too, right, do you reckon Leavina? Heads can roll?

Speaker 22 (53:08):
Like?

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Should heads roll over?

Speaker 11 (53:10):
This?

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Is it at that level? Or is this just something
that we I don't know, have to take take it
take a learning from.

Speaker 15 (53:16):
Well, I mean there's plenty of things we can take
a learning from when it comes to advocacy, and you
know when we're at a board level and we need
to get protocols right. But to be honest, anyone, and Nick,
I know you saw the footage and the rest of
the country I was with sporting fans that don't watch
sport at all and watched it and thought it was
during the match and went, WHOA, wow, he's gone, he

(53:37):
won't be playing. I'm like it was the warm up,
but no, he won't be playing. Then he turns up
to play. It was ridiculous and honestly in terms of
in terms of player care and also like grass grass
grassroots rugby league as well, it's not the sort of
thing that we want to advocate to our kids that
it's okay to play. You'll be right, be tolf, be tolf,
get out there and do it. I mean it was
a serious injury. He should never have played. And I

(53:59):
do think the doctors should be interviewed. I think they
should be held accountable because anyone that gave the tick
to that box for him to play made a wrong
to form too.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Write now, Nick, what do you think about this T
twenty idea?

Speaker 6 (54:10):
Do you like it? Look?

Speaker 20 (54:12):
This has been bubbling away for a week while, hasn't
it with the Super Smash whether it's fit for purpose
of course, coming to a change in the broadcast arrangement
with New Zealand Cricket moving back to Sky after the
summer from TVNZ, and it just felt like something had
to be done with our T twenty competition when you
compare it to I know we're a small country by

(54:33):
it by comparison, but it's nothing you know, I can't
hold a candle to the IPL or the Big Bash
or one hundred or anything like that. So to hear
that there is a bit of private money and equity
interested in changing the landscape of T twenty cricket is
not a total shock.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
It is a little bit surprising.

Speaker 20 (54:50):
I suppose that it sounds like it's got universal support
from the six major associations, the domestic regions across the country.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
So look, while there might be some resistance a little
bit higher up, perhaps.

Speaker 20 (55:04):
At the governing body of New Zealand cricket level, if
they're saying, hey, our own domestic product isn't good enough,
we want to change, I think that that strikes to
me anyway that that change is coming. And to be fair,
when you look at the Super Smash, yes, it's a
nice product in terms of, you know, it just feels
like a nice day at a summer location, sort of

(55:26):
barbecue vibes. But you know, operationally, I've heard, you know,
it runs at a pretty big loss. So something has
to be done, whether it's something in between. I know
there's been reports to join the Big Bash. I think
change is coming, but this sounds quite interesting. I'm intrigued
to see where it lands.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, Levina, I don't know. The Super Smash is it?
I never watch it? Do you watch it?

Speaker 7 (55:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (55:47):
I do, I do watch it. And I also I
think the Super Smash Australia with the women's competition for
years that outrated everything that happened here in New Zealand
when it came to football or other minor sports that
in terms of key we politics. This is good old stuff,
isn't that? Netbal New Zealand would be loving this attention
right now. And the provinces are saying they want more money,

(56:09):
more attention, and they're decided maybe in a way I guess,
to make their own fun and you can see they're
absolutely considering it, maybe backing it. They might feel ignored
by the current setup. I don't know if this rebel
league promises more control, but it might promise more cash
closer to home. The thing is, the thing is there's
an early buzz, but unless it locks in TV money

(56:30):
and top players, it risks kind of just going way
over the backside or the breakaway league and there'll be
no coverage and there'll be no fans and it won't happen.
So they need the coverage, They want the money, and
everyone's talking about it at the moment. It's the buzz trap.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Yep, totally all right, let's take a break that you
guys come back shortly seventeen away from six.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
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Speaker 4 (56:55):
The back of the sports huddle, Levina Good, Nick Beuley,
and go on, Levina before we get to Dame Nolls
to clear your interest.

Speaker 15 (57:04):
Yes, Dame Dame Nollen is a neighbor of mine at
a lovely beach side resort. I won't tell you where
it is because I catch heats the fish there and
I don't want everyone to go there to marry. But
she's a great nigh But I'll tell you what. I'm
really glad she's never made me do a beat test,
right because I'm like, I'm sure I would fail it.
But then I think to myself, I'm not an elite player.

(57:25):
I'm not representing one of our finest recognized sports, and
if I did the elite beat test, I would fail it.
But I'm not representing that sport like others. So she's
a really really good bird, great neighbor, and I guess
some of my comments I would try and think are professional,
but I can't help but think they're personal as well.
But I worked with Dame Nollin for many, many years

(57:45):
when I was working on the net ball. I remember
back in twenty nineteen she went to Australia. She dropped
two of the highest percented shooters and the domestic competition
because they didn't pass the beat test. A couple of
months later, she went on to win the World Cup
in twenty nineteen, and everyone forgot about the fact that
she drops some players because they didn't make the beat test.

(58:07):
It's an elite sport. She's an elite coach, and I
just think I personally think Dan Nolan puts the silver
ferns first, maybe not the players, and certainly not a self.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Let me ask you this question. You read me, you
heard me reading our past that report. Is she a bully?

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Yep?

Speaker 15 (58:22):
The thing is I was really happy to listen to
that report and I was really pleased that it was revealed. Now,
I wish it would have been revealed a long time ago,
because finally there's something tangible that we can soak up on.
The Brian Stonnach report. I just personally think that she
is She's been at the Helm for seven years, she's

(58:42):
come to great heights, We've made her a dame, She's
won the World Cup for New Zealand and she puts
the sport first. I think it's a mess. I don't
know if it's a mess of netball New Zealand's. I
think a world class coach and a leadership team can't
seem to get on the same page. I just wish
it would have been far more transparent before today. I
was so glad to hear that report, but it's long over.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Juy totally. What do you reckon? Nick Bullysses?

Speaker 20 (59:10):
I mean, it's so subjective, isn't he herether I'm not
going to answer one one way or the other, because
come on neck, look lightest thing in a high performance environment.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
We all know it's tough.

Speaker 20 (59:20):
It's not easy, right, It's not like a normal workplace,
and each of the twelve to fifteen players is going
to have a slightly skewed interpretation on what constructive criticism
is or feedback. That the bit that was probably the
most damning for me here, that is the inconsistency and
again again, I guess inconsistency. Calling something inconsistent is probably
subjective in itself. But you know, for any workplace, all

(59:43):
you want is to be treated equally as your peers.
So if these claims and look, there are some issues,
by the sounds with this Brian's Stronach report in terms
of how many players that did interview, every single player,
it sounds like that's still up for the debate. But
if there is inconsistency around you know, the favoritism, for example,
around fitness reporting, I don't think that's acceptable and it's

(01:00:05):
pretty dysfunctional and dysfunctional in any high performance sporting.

Speaker 15 (01:00:10):
I'm sorry, next, sorry if interrupting. Also, I think that
the players have said, like it's been said, the players
are anonymous. I don't think they need to be anonymous anymore.
I mean, Dame Nolene obviously knows who they are, don't
know who they are exactly, and it's time to advocate
their issues. So this thing is in the absence of information,
people speculate, and that's what the whole country has been
doing over the last fifty one days since she's been

(01:00:32):
stood down. So players come out, say who you are,
say what your issues are let her answer to those
issues and then maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
We can all move on.

Speaker 15 (01:00:39):
I know lots of I've spoken to a few sports
boards throughout the country over the last couple of weeks
and they've all gathered, they've all had meetings, and they've
learnt a lot from this process. So it's been a
learning curve. Hopefully Netal New Zealand has learned as well.

Speaker 20 (01:00:53):
Yeah, I just want to quickly, just quickly jump and
I just think it's beyond repair, to be totally honest,
I think that's probing the stubbornness on both sides. I
think ever since I saw that Dave Nolean wasn't going
to go to the UK on this tour which starts
on Monday, like, I've seen some sort of conspiracy theorists
and they're basically setting her up to fail on m
I subscribe to that. The fact that she might have

(01:01:14):
them for well a week before the Commonwealth Games, they
might finish third or fourth and then you've got a
good reason not to renew a contract. That's that's where
it feels like it's going to me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
That's actually a fair point to have raised there now, Levena,
I'm not excited about the All Blacks. Are you excited
about the All Blacks?

Speaker 15 (01:01:28):
I'm very excited about the All Blacks because I won
money on the Melbourne Cup, Heather and as I did
you remember last year to eleven because my daughter was
born on Melbourne Cup day to and eleven and last
year I won loads of money and I'm like, I'm going.

Speaker 9 (01:01:42):
Stop.

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
That's how she can avoid for this batch next to
day and it just keeps winning on.

Speaker 15 (01:01:47):
Okay, I read that batch next.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Hey, I have a theory on you, Levina. I have
a theory which is that you are actually secretly loaded,
which means that you just bet on everything because you've
got the cash dere you always win because of that.

Speaker 15 (01:02:00):
Nah, mate, I've just hey mate, I've got lots of contacts,
all right, Yeah, lots of contacts and this one, this
one's out there and like.

Speaker 23 (01:02:07):
The hate mail, bring it in.

Speaker 15 (01:02:09):
I'm ready for the hate mail. I'm going to put
my money from the Melbourne Cup on Scotland to beat
the All Blacks. And for three reasons. One is not
because the Scottish beat the Americans eighty five mil or whatever.
I heard Jason Pine mentioned that and also Jason you
also mentioned the All Blacks played really well the last
twenty minutes against Ireland. Okay, what about the first sixty minutes, Jason,

(01:02:31):
you forgot about that. And I think Scotland has been
improving every single time and finally the ads are playing,
believe it or not, in their white stripes. This is
Scotland all the way Murrayfield, one hundred years. I know
there's been thirty two matches, thirty to the All Blacks.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Two drawers.

Speaker 15 (01:02:50):
If you want to win a little something sneaky, sneaky,
have a bet with your neighbor.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
And take it home R eighteen bit responsibly, go nick
ah m dysfunctional, No, no, no, Look, I think.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
The All Blacks are going to win. But but I
would say one thing.

Speaker 20 (01:03:05):
I think we are probably understating how important both Jordi
and Scott Barrett out of this team. I've played a
lot of rugby in that All Black starting side captain
and vice captain as well, and I think there is
a little bit of a drop below the next Cabs
off the ranks.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
So if there's any ever an opportunity for Scotland, we.

Speaker 20 (01:03:21):
Hear abouts you know how many players from their British
and Irish line squad from Scotland.

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Maybe this is it. I won't get it. I won't
be getting up for it.

Speaker 20 (01:03:29):
But if I wake up Sunday morning and something's totally
different and the world is falling in and the All
Blacks are lost, then it won't be a total Well.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
I just had up Levina for some of the freebies
that she's going to have absolutely as a result. Guys,
it's wonderful to talk to the pair of you. Nick
Beuley slavena good as sports huddle. Seven away from six
it's the Heather.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
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Speaker 4 (01:03:53):
Heather, I hope that if Scotland does beat the All
Blacks for the first time, you and the New Zealand
sporting media will be as hard on Razer as you
were on Fozzy Lord Hither. It's lesson not learning, Steve.
I know That's why I used my sarcastic voice for
that when I said it, Hey, do you remember this?
BBC news reader.

Speaker 29 (01:04:09):
Malcolm Mystery, who was involved in the research, says that
the aged, pregnant people, women and those with pre existing
health conditions need to take precautions.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
She's got in trouble. MENBC has come down on her
like a ton of bricks. That happened back in June.
If you didn't pick up like okay, you always have
picked up what she did wrong there?

Speaker 21 (01:04:29):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
She said pregnant people and then corrected herself and said women.
What they have cracked down on her for that. Honestly,
you cannot make this up. You cannot make this up
her expression. That's what they've had a crack at her for.
Because at the point that she changes what's in the
autoque from pregnant people to women, she makes the tiniest
change in her expression on her face and she sort

(01:04:50):
of slightly opens her eyes, like but it's so minor, right,
she just opens her eyes because like, the woman has
had so much work done. She could and open her
eyes more than that if she wanted to. So she
does this tiny little opening of the eyes that has
been found to have broken BBC impartiality rules. The Broadcasters

(01:05:11):
Executive Complaints Unit considered her facial expression expressed a controversial
view about trans people. I mean, the BBC are idiots, right,
did you need proof that the BBC idiots? You just
got proof that the BBC are idiots in the very
bloody week that they've like made Donald Trump. We've found
out that made Donald Trump say something that Donald Trump

(01:05:32):
didn't say, and they've been running hummas lines on Gaza
and they've been doing all this stuff and putting anti
semites on television. Turns out they want to go and
have a crack at the lady for opening her eyes. Honestly,
what absolute idiots.

Speaker 17 (01:05:45):
Were on the radio hit and no one even knows
what our facial.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Express Look at my facial expression right now answer. I mean, like, seriously,
imagine if you got in trouble that bet just did
a facial expression.

Speaker 17 (01:05:54):
I'm just trying to keep all New.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Zealand stood Dame Nole's down for a facial ex expression
that's essentially what's just happened to.

Speaker 17 (01:06:02):
The old way would have been more specific than what
we got from the report.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
But yeah, that is true. Actually, at least we know. Hey,
let's talk about department stores. There's one, as I said
to you earlier, there's one opening in Queen Street. I
know there's one opening in Queen Street next year. How
mental is that last from the past. We'll chat about
that next news coup.

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out of your seat when you hear what I'm about

(01:07:14):
to tell you. I've got some good news about Queen
Street and Auckland. A new three level luxury department store
is set to open at one three to one Queen Street.
This is opposite Vulcan Lane. It's going to open mid
next year as part of a thirty million dollar development.
Faradays is behind the new store, and the Faraday's chief
executive is Eddie von Dadels and Hi, Eddie.

Speaker 27 (01:07:33):
Hi, I hear that. I thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
Yeah, thanks for joining us, mate. I love this, But
isn't the age of the department store over?

Speaker 6 (01:07:42):
Hey?

Speaker 30 (01:07:42):
Look, I think I think when you think about Queen
Street and you think about two two noticeable department stores
that are now are missing from the market. When we
think about that and we think about a large duty
free off of it no longer or exists, and we
think about a tragic end of another New Zealand institution,

(01:08:05):
there is a there is an addressable market that exists
in the CBD, and I think with the right tactics,
a focus on experience and a focus on customer.

Speaker 27 (01:08:16):
Service, that that we can excel.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
So it's what it sounds like to me. What you're
saying is basically, I walk in that store, it has
to feel special and you're going to make it feel special.

Speaker 30 (01:08:30):
Yeah, that's I mean the building itself. We're inheriting something truly,
truly unique, which is the original Mill and Choice building
purpose built for department stores. It's it's just this amazing,
it's this amazing historical embrace to do something contemporary and

(01:08:52):
fresh and modern.

Speaker 9 (01:08:53):
Insight.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Who's your your market? Here are you are you aiming at?
You know, reasonably well money people in Auckland or is
it the cruise ship crew.

Speaker 30 (01:09:04):
Look, I think an economy the size of Auckland, you
need you Actually, your addressable market needs to be all
of the above. It needs to be regional tourists, it
needs to be locals, it needs to be international tourists.
And you need to be speaking to Chinese demographic, Indian
demographic and obviously obviously the Caucasian demographics and all other
demographics too. So it's we've got to make everyone feel welcome.

(01:09:26):
We've got to make the we've got to make the
price points achievable for people who can afford to come
and have an amazing experience and buy a packet of
pencils right through to someone that wants to have a
kind of what they might have associated with faradays in
the past, and you know, spend a significant We're really
edicated to the to the whole market in that sense.

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Do you have confidence that Queen Street's going to be okay?
Because at the moment it just looks terrible.

Speaker 30 (01:09:54):
Hey, if we all if we all pack up and leave,
it's prey devastating as an outcome for the CBD, isn't it.

Speaker 26 (01:10:00):
So?

Speaker 27 (01:10:00):
I think I think now it's the time for bravery.
I think.

Speaker 30 (01:10:03):
I think we're at the bottom of the market and
I think that you can start to feel a little
bit of a change in confidence as well. So I
believe in Queen Street. I believe in the historic buildings
and their residents, with the you know, with the community,
and I believe that anyone who's visiting Orkland's probably going

(01:10:24):
to come to the CBD first and I think that's
going to set the time for potentially a lot of
the rest of their experience.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Yeah, well, listen, I'm loving that you're saying this stuff.
And what about I mean, you'll have known, You'll know
this has been reasonably well canvas this week, the discussion
about what we do with rough sleepers and anti social behavior.
What's your view on that.

Speaker 30 (01:10:43):
My view is that I'm not a social worker. And
whilst I think that that's distressing that that situation that
some people find themselves in, I think that all the
business owners on Queen Street need to work together with
counsel and with the mayor to achieve a good result
for people that are on Queen Street in general.

Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
Brilliant, Okay, what happens to to I'll be honest with you.
I'm not sure what you meant by that.

Speaker 27 (01:11:10):
Well, what it meant was it's sort of I guess
it's it's not my expertise.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
So but you don't want them to like you don't
You don't want to open a flash new store and
have people like peeing on the footpath outside, do you not?

Speaker 27 (01:11:24):
Really? No, No, that's not not what we would be
shooting for on opening night.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Or at all. Hey, okay, Faradays and partnal what happens.

Speaker 30 (01:11:34):
So it's I guess Faradays is the panel is a
kind of our legacy in a sense. So it's it's
just such a beautiful building, the fit out. I don't
know if you've ever been, but it's it's I think
it's quite beautiful. It's award winning chess. I did an
amazing job. And and my understanding is that there's a
talented new new team who is taking over the space

(01:11:54):
and who.

Speaker 27 (01:11:55):
Will nurture it and turn it into something special.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
Allot forward to saying, yeah, so do I listen, look,
best of luck with everything, and really hope it goes
well for you. That's edyvon Duddell's and Faraday's co founder
and chief executive. Yeah, Spark. Now, if you've been watching
Spark in the last few years, and especially if you're
a shareholder in Spark, you probably underwhelmed by what's going on.

(01:12:19):
Well fair to say, the shareholders that turned up at
the annual meeting today got their chance to give them
a bit of a grilling, and apparently they did give
them a bit of a grilling according to reports. Now,
this is, obviously, I think predominantly what people have been
looking for as some kind of a refresh at the
top there. So it looks like the chair is falling
on her sword. She's going to step down as a
chairperson and a board member within the next twelve months.
They've laid out their new strategy. They're going to focus

(01:12:40):
on connectivity rather than an ambition to deliver broader digital services.
So he is hoping it goes well for them, and
he is hoping a refresh just of the board chair
is enough for them. Thirteen past six it's the Heather Duper.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
C Allen Drive Full Show podcast on my Heart Radio
powered by news dog ZEPPI I've got.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
To get you across treasuries. I told the government to
start selling state assets, so I'll get you across that
shortly at sixteen past six and with me right now
is Thomas Cogland, political editor at The Herald, to wrap
the political week.

Speaker 5 (01:13:10):
That was for us.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Hey, Thomas, Heather, Good afternoon, Thomas, listen, thanks for stepping
in and doing this today. I want to talk to
you about this homeless band thing. The government stuff this up.
Haven't they the comms on this?

Speaker 17 (01:13:23):
Yes they have.

Speaker 28 (01:13:24):
I think I think the Prime Minister struggles to kill
a story, so if you ask him something and it's
not true, he struggles to conclusively say that it's not true.
So there isn't a ban on homelessness being considered. It
sounds like the Sunny Kashell Sunny Kashall retail Prime Ministerial
Advisory Group has recommended that move on orders which would

(01:13:48):
which would basically say, you know, if for certain anti
social behavior police have the ability to ban people and
move them on from a sudent area for a certain
period of time. It sounds like that was the recommendation
that has gone to Minister and it could be considered
as part of a wider sort of social policy to
deal with in the city disruption. I guess it is

(01:14:10):
not a ban on homelessness. And the Prime Minister sort
of to compure and perhaps to just into return if
you ask just into Redurner question and you're way out
of you know, if your tap is way out of
out of left field, if it's way way wrong. She
had quite a good way of making.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Sure that you should pull that face he knew, remember.

Speaker 28 (01:14:29):
Yeah, she would pull the face. Yeah, I definitely what
it was, and the face would say like, I'm sorry, Thomas,
You're you're way wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
But Thomas, Yeah, it's not just the Prime minister, it's
all the senior ministers as well who are involved, because
there's heaps them involved here, right, and junior ministers as well.
But they let this thing go on for about twenty
four to thirty six hours before they finally actually managed
to sort of figure out how to say it's move
on orders, not a homelessness ban.

Speaker 28 (01:14:54):
Well, precisely. And it's, as you say, it's pretty simple story.
You know, you set up an advisory group, gives you
an idea, the idea enters the Beehive policy system, and
then you think about it, then you consult your coalition
partners about it. So yeah, I agree, it's a very
it's it's it's a story that didn't really need to
be a story.

Speaker 4 (01:15:12):
Yeah, totally. Now, where is this business with the Maori
Party going to go? What's the end result that we're
going to get?

Speaker 28 (01:15:18):
I think the end result is a split. I think
when you look at the Party Maori constitution, not to
bore people on a Friday, but the Party Maori constitution
basically gives a lot of power to John Tamaherty and
as allies. It gives a lot of power to representatives
from the electorates. The electorates are controlled by people who

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are friendly to the Tamahadi position. It gives a lot
of power to the leadership, and we know that the
leadership is pretty pro TAMMAHEADI Rawity White, he is married
to John Tamaherty's daughter kidd He. So basically, I think
I think it would be a mistake to look at
this as two equal sites. They have equal power, They're
getting equal weight in the in the media stry because
you know, both sides have something interesting to say, but

(01:16:03):
the power, the power rests with John Tummy heavy. I
think eventually it will probably lead to expulsion. The big
question and the question which I don't you know, don't
really have an answer for you now is whether that
expulsion would lead to a waker jumping the waker jumping
legislation being triggered. Could it be triggered, and if it
is triggered, are we ready for by elections? Two by
elections and two I think they are the two largest

(01:16:25):
electrics in the country. Tiger difarists because electorates the entire
South Island plus Wellington.

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
Mate, that's not going to go down well with people,
is it.

Speaker 28 (01:16:33):
Well, it's certainly not going to go down well with me,
all the hard going they have to do. I love
the Southland, That's where I'm from. I love the South Island.
But I'm not I'm not not quite ready to go
slipping around the South Island covering a bi election enough,
But yes, I don't.

Speaker 17 (01:16:49):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 28 (01:16:50):
We'll be very expensive a by election and those two
by elections and those two electorates are going to be
very expensive.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Now do you think eric A Stanford is surviving the
attacks from from the unions and their mates?

Speaker 28 (01:17:02):
This is a very hard one to know. I think
they probably. I think she probably is. I think I
have There's no polling on this, so this is just
a gussing instinct. But I've heard from a few electorate
MP's who are expressing a desire from people, from parents
who come to those electorate MPs. They are expressing a

(01:17:23):
desire to focus on sort of education, very very a
very strict focus on education and for a wee bit
of a d emphasis of some of the cultural competencies
that have sort of crept into the into the education
world and the last of teen years. So I think
she's probably on the on the right SIDEA but but

(01:17:44):
like I said, there's no polling on the seat, there's
no way of knowing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
Yeah, this is true. Hey, thank you very much. I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 17 (01:17:49):
Thomas.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
That's Thomas Coglan, the New Zealand Herald political editor. Okay,
let's talk about it. I just saw the sad on Telly,
so I need to talk about this right now. You know,
the the KFC ad, this KFC ad with the hacker
has got like an enormous number of complaints that have
gone through to the Advertising Standards Authority. Now, I don't
really love people complaining to the Advertising standards authority because

(01:18:11):
you know, don't you have a life, But fifty complaints
is quite a lot for it do you know what?
Can we just talk about how much this ad sucks?
It sucks a whoever made this ad for KFC should
give the money back to KFC because it's a it's
a shite ad. But the problem with ad is not
that it's like destroyed the kernel and turned them into

(01:18:32):
the little mongrel mob type affair, you know, sitting over
there wanting to do hackey stuff. It's that the ad
doesn't make you want to eat KFC because the ad
makes it you know, like ads, you know, it just
doesn't make it feel good. You see it, you go,
I'm just I feel yuck. It's like nah, you know,
like that's the rule you kind of had this kind
of it's like a little bit freaked out by it's
a bit ominous. It's a bit eerie, isn't it. That's

(01:18:53):
what it is. It's slightly eerie and weird, and so
you feel like like a revulsion. Well why did it?
Why why did you add? People think that that's the
feeling you want to give me before you tell me
about chicken. I don't think that's a good idea. I mean,
what's those ads and what's those ads in the UK
that they do every single Christmas time, John something or other?
You know the shop? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 9 (01:19:14):
Beat?

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
You know that you make me watch them every year?
The Christmas ads in the UK. They're like a big deal.
John John Lewis, John Lewis, No, why you look at
she's got She's pregnant, so her brain stopped working already.
You know what I'm talking about. They do those ads,
they give you them beautiful music and nice warm fuzzies. Yay,
that's the feeling you should be getting when you watch

(01:19:35):
an ad. What a terrible ad. I can't believe who
did it? Whoever did it should be fired.

Speaker 17 (01:19:41):
It was John Lewis.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Did I just make that name up? I mean, she's pregnant,
so her brain's not working. But I've just recently weaned
the little one off breastfeeding, so my brain is not working.
It has been replaced with just a pit of rage.
Six You know what I'm talking about, Ladies six twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
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Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Can quie Saber, You're in good hands. News talks head be.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
Yeah, bang on it was John Lewis, and actually, weirdly,
the John Lewis add for this year dropped a couple
of days ago. It's got an upbeat nineties club classic
as the song, and it is apparently quite good. Here's
what the Uffington Post UKs is. John Lewis's new Christmas
ad captures a real main, real male loneliness and it's
a tear jerker. Six twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
Yeah, it seems like everyone's interested in creepy men who
are interested in children because the next buyer pic is
just around the corner. First teaser for Michael has just dropped,
and you know which Michael we're talking about?

Speaker 26 (01:20:49):
Cute?

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
Can you lie the last from you?

Speaker 20 (01:20:52):
Please?

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Okay, but remember in here keep those peaks still, my man.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
So the story of Michaelson is coming to the big
screen seventeen years after his death. He's been played by
his own nephew, Jamar Jackson, and even though the trailer
is only a minute long, we get to see all
the best bits. You're going to see Michael in his
thriller costume, the iconic billowing white shirt thing, multiple scenes.
Will you know have full stadium concerts and performances and
stuff like that. There's even a shot of Michael getting
a little bit too close to some pyrotechnics. This might

(01:21:21):
be a hint at when Michael suffered severe burns when
he was set on fire during a Pepsi commercial and
apparently to believe that that incident is what caused his
reliance on painkillers leading to his early death. Whether or
not the film is going to deal with the Yakia stuff,
do you know what I'm talking about, is yet to
be seen, But you can find out on the twenty

(01:21:41):
fourth of April next year, when probably all of us
are going to go and watch it, because even though
he's a creep, still makes some good song. Still yuck.
Peter Lewis is going to be with us out of
Hong Kong shortly, going to talk us through the four
red lines China has given the US, and I still
have to tell you about the Treasury through telling the
government to start selling some stuff. News talks.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Just whether it's macro micro, we're just playing economics. It's
all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and
Mass for Insurance Investments and Hueye Safer. You're in good
ads US talks EVA.

Speaker 4 (01:22:35):
Well, let's go wrong in the UK. It's almost disturbing.
We're gonna have a chat to Gavin Gray about that shortly.
He's with us ten minutes titles and I've got bad
news for you if you have been hanging out for
Grand Theft Auto which at number six, which apparently a
lot of people have. This is one of the most
anticipated gaming releases ever. It's been delayed again. So we're
supposed to come out now, and then it was delayed
until May next year, and it has now been delayed

(01:22:57):
again until the nineteenth of November next year, so you
don't have to what whole year for it. The problem
with it is they need extra months to finish the
game with the level of polish that fans had come
to expect and deserve. Apparently twenty four away from seven
and with us now we have Peter Lewis our Asia
business correspondent, Alopiza.

Speaker 9 (01:23:13):
Good evening, Heather.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
What do you make of Taiwan being one of the
four centsitive lines?

Speaker 21 (01:23:19):
Oh, no surprise, whatsoever? I mean for China, it is
an absolute red line that can't be crossed in any way.
It's not the only red line I mean the US ambassador.
So the Chinese ambassador to the US set them out
this week what exactly China's red lines are in terms

(01:23:40):
of its relationships with the US, And of course Taiwan
was mentioned as one of them, but the other three
areas were democracy and human rights, then China's political system,
and also China's overall development rights. China has often felt
that the US is trying to interfere in its economic
and technological development and trying to hold it back and

(01:24:05):
going well beyond what is just normal competition between two
countries and two economies, and this is a big theme
in its new five year plan that's going to take
China's economic development up to the end of the decade,
and technological technological development is very much center to that.
China wants to be a leader in areas such as

(01:24:27):
ai such as electric vehicles, photovoltaic cells and so on,
all the latest sort of cutting edge technologies. China wants
to take the lead in that, and it sees the
US as deliberately trying to sort of hold it back
in that area. So the ambassador's remarks are not really

(01:24:49):
a surprise, they just reflect what Beijing has often insisted
on is its own sovereignty and autonomy in terms of
economic and technological areas and are is that have related
to its national security. But the fact that they have
to be spelt out in the first place does rather
suggest that this agreement that President g and Donald Trump

(01:25:13):
have come up with a week or so ago in
South Korea is rather fragile and it could almost fall
apart at any time. It's not going to take much
for something to happen to upset one side or the other,
and then we see exactly what we've seen over the
last few months. Then there's retaliatory measures, the other side responds,
and everything escalates again. It is a very very precarious

(01:25:37):
sort of trade truce that the two sides have between them.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40):
You're too right. I see Donald Trump has said publicly
that she told him he will not move on Taiwan
in this particular term. So when is this particular term
twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven to twenty eight, So
is she going to move after that?

Speaker 21 (01:25:53):
I don't believe that she said that at all, because
President she is not prepared in any way to let
it be thought that there's any part of Taiwan that
is up for negotiation. Its bottom line is that Taiwan
is part of China. China has historic rights over that,

(01:26:14):
and it wants reunification between Taiwan and the mainland, and
it will do that by whatever means it deems necessary,
and it's not prepared to negotiate that at all or negotiate.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
A why any part of that.

Speaker 21 (01:26:28):
It expects other countries that want to have diplomatic relations
with China to accept what is known as the One
China principle, and if countries don't accept that, then they
can't have a diplomatic relationship with China. What Trump didn't
say at all was what he would do if China

(01:26:51):
were to invade Taiwan. Would they intervene militarily? What would
they do exactly to stop them? And this has always
been the US position in some ways that there's an
ambiguity on what exactly is the policy towards Taiwan. Although
Joe Biden when he was the president, I think he
forgot about that's a couple of times and actually specifically

(01:27:13):
mentioned that the US would react. But I don't think
this is in any way calms down Taiwan. I think
there is still a general feeling out here in the
region that this is something that's up for negotiation, and
if Donald Trump thought he could get some sort of
grand bargain with President, he would negotiate away Taiwan and

(01:27:36):
they would be left to fend for themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
It's interesting as always, Peter, it's wonderful to talk to you.
Thank you. We'll talk to you in a week's time.
It's Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent, nineteen away from
seven do for ce Ellen. So Treasury is pushing the
government to sell assets basically because of the state of
our finances. So they've released the three yearly Investment Statement
and basically pointed out that we are not paying our

(01:27:59):
way in terms of the operating deficit. Right, we have
a structural deficit all the time, always always spending more
than we actually bring in. So we've got to do
something about it. So the Treasury Secretary said, and at
an event to launch the report, we aren't going to
grow our way out of the fiscal deficit. There will
be a need for ongoing changes across the balance sheet.

(01:28:20):
The Treasury says some government assets are underperforming, poorly maintained,
and lack quality information. Regular assessments of the purpose, the
performance and the governance of the Crown's assets would help
increase the value that they provide for the public or
provide opportunities to reallocate capital to higher value assets now
of the higher value use Now, the Treasury hasn't said
which assets which thinks should be sold, but last year

(01:28:42):
it did put out another document or was released under
the Official Information Act, and it listed a bunch of
assets that it did not think we're doing particularly well.
They are Kiwibank New Zealand Post, KiwiRail, New Zealand Railways,
TV and Z Transpower, Genesis Energy, Mercury, New Zealand, Meridian Energy,
christ Church Dunedin and Hawks Bay Airports, Airways, Met Service,
Crown Infrastructure Partners, Quotable Value, cardia ecnz AS, sure Quality Land,

(01:29:06):
Carped Farming and Public Trust. When I said that they're
all low performing, they're not all low performing. Some of
them are low performing. Some of them Treasury is not
clear as to why the government actually owns them or not,
so all of those should be up for debate. It
also said I didn't realize this, but do you realize
that the government owns seven percent of all of the
assets in this country seven percent five hundred and seventy
one billion dollars, which is the equivalent for each of

(01:29:28):
us of one hundred and seven thousand dollars. Now what
you should know, what you should understand about this is
Treasury always tells any government what they want to hear,
right like to an extent you as the government, you
could sort one point, nag and arge, I need some
information on that, and so that's come out. And what
I think you should understand is that this government is
considering selling assets and making that part of the election

(01:29:50):
thing that happens next year. And they can see that
labour parties squaring up for a fight on us. So
Treasury puts out a report and says some of the
assets should be sold. Now you've got your evidence that
you need if you're the government. So oh look, Treasury
needs us to sell it. Now we're going to run
on selling it. That's what's going on there. Seventeen away
from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
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Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
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Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
News talks dea'd be fourteen away from seven. Devin Gray
are UK correspondents with us. Hello, Gevin, hi there. Now,
I know Congress wants to hear from the Andrew formerly
known as Prince, but can they force him to come
over and talk.

Speaker 26 (01:30:33):
To them only if they subpoena him, which hasn't been
ruled out, but at the moment that is not in place.
So this request to Andrew Mountbatman Winsor is simply that
a request. But we now know that the Congressman Robert
Garcia wrote to Prince Andrew or Andrew and in this
letter addressed to the Royal Lodge wins a great part

(01:30:54):
where he's still living until he has to go. We
wait to see what the result is, but basically they
said they want to ask him questions relating to information
on Jeffrey Epstein, the late disgraced financier and abuser Jeffrey
Epstein's network and also associates based on their quote long
standing friendship. It was signed by sixteen members of Congress,

(01:31:18):
so this isn't like a lone wolf congressman who's deciding
to act on their own and request Andrew to sit
for a transcribed interview.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
And it refers to well.

Speaker 26 (01:31:30):
Documented allegations against you, along with your long standing friendship
of Jeffrey Epstein, indicate you may possess knowledge of his
activities relevant to our investigation. We request you cooperate with
the committee's investigation by sitting for this transcribed interview with
the Committee. So we'll wait to see what response that's

(01:31:51):
going to get. In the past, there's always been a
suggestion that he won't go, but he is keen to
help the inquiry. Perhaps that may change now he's lost
his title, but.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
I doubt it now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
Do you think now that the title has been formally removed,
this as the end of the pain for the royal family.

Speaker 26 (01:32:10):
No, very much, not, because I think this is still
going to come up and bubble up, particularly while this
inquiry in America is going on, and until he's moved
home as well. I don't think that's going to really
help things quiet and down. And that's because when he
drives in and out of the secure area often there
are photographers there and they do capture him in the

(01:32:32):
car looking either grumpy or happy or and of course
they're able to capture the visitors. Now when he goes
to Sandhurst, the family home in the East of England.
It's a massive estate with several entrances and exits. Lots
of people go in and out because there's lots of
staff who work.

Speaker 5 (01:32:49):
There are lots of other.

Speaker 26 (01:32:50):
Visitors to the Royal House. So I think it's going
to be a quieter life once he gets in there,
but as we now know, that could be still some
weeks away though, I hear King Charles is very keen
and happened sooner rather than later.

Speaker 4 (01:33:03):
I see, now, how did they go in Birmingham.

Speaker 26 (01:33:07):
Well, it's been a bit of a tense night. So
in Birmingham, in the Midlands. Here in the UK, there
was at long last this football match between mccarby Tel Aviv,
the Israeli side, and Aston Villa, a British side. Now
it's the problem is that the police had said, in
an area like Birmingham with a very very high Muslim population,

(01:33:30):
getting this football match underway safely would have been very
very difficult owing to the tensions between Israeli and Jews
and the Palestinians, and so consequently they actually decided to
ban supporters from mccarby Tel Aviv, something the Prime Minister
said was terrible and was going to change, he was
going to look at extra resources. In the end, Macarby

(01:33:52):
Tel Aviv said, well, we don't want our supporters to
go because we didn't think it's going to be safe either.
And I have to say the idea that supporters aren't
going to be safe in the UK is astounding. But
that was the decision that was made. And last night
seven hundred police officers tried to keep the two lots
of protests apart. That was protesters arriving in support of Israel,

(01:34:13):
others arriving to say that they're pleased Israel was banned
from the Israeli supporters banned from going. Eleven arrests were
made in total, and of those five on suspicion of
racially aggravated police order offenses. I have to say I
think it was much much less, much much less difficult
for the police than they had anticipated, and not much violence.

(01:34:36):
I'm very police to say broke out.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Yeah, that is brilliant. Devin, thank you. Was always appreciate it.
We'll talk to you on Monday. Devin Gray are UK correspondent.
Here there was Landcorp on Treasury's list of potential SOE sales.
Course it was course it was, you know it was
should be rach Jang Oh Joys above Ray Chang. If
you don't know who I'm talking about, he is the
one who wrote the Pendulus Brists email about Tory Fanno.

(01:34:59):
He's unwilling city Council's Now he's apparently hiring his own
PR person in the I cannot tell you how weird
this is. I've never heard of as city councilor anywhere
hiring their own PR person. But he is doing this because,
as he says, he keeps getting into trouble speaking to
the media and he claims being misquoted. So he's currently

(01:35:20):
in the process of appointing someone and negotiating their pay.
I don't know how much they're gonna get paid. I mean,
maybe they're going to do part time, because he is
expected to earn maybe up to one hundred and twenty
thousand dollars a year in his position on the council.
So once you get your one twenty thoul and then
you take out your tax, so what are you left

(01:35:40):
with there? It's maybe like ninety or something like eighty
five something like that, and then how much Please tell
me this is not his own income stream because by
the time he's paid all his bills and like fed himself,
he's going to have nothing for the person. I'm assuming
he's independently wealthy, right, I'm going to assume that. So
it's not the worst idea that I've ever but it
is very unusual. Nine away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
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Speaker 4 (01:36:13):
Heather ex Prince Andrew has only been asked to get
on a plane and go to America, so he can
say yes, well, maybe he cannot go Trevis. This is
a good point. I wonder if if he decides to
say no, is he never allowed to go to America again?

Speaker 9 (01:36:23):
Is it like that?

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
Is it that serious? I suspect not, because it's just
a request from Congress. Congress asks for stuff all of
the time, and it's only serious I suppose if they
subpoena him, which there means you can't go visit your mate,
and well mate's dead anyway now and they six away
from seven now. I was telling you a couple of
days ago about Kim Kardashian's new TV show and how
it's apparently so bad that it had like zero percent

(01:36:47):
rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and the Guardian gave it zero stars.
And the Guardian has in the past, I think fifteen
times given shows zero stars, but fifteen times in the
history of the Guardian shows you have to be quite
bad to get it anyway. So then the question is, well,
is it really bad enough to deserve the zero stars? Well,
let me run you through what some others have said.
I guess the Guardian said this that the Guardian piece

(01:37:09):
started with the line I did not know it was
still possible to make television this bad. Every review that
came out afterwards hated the show as well. The Times
also gave it a zero star. Review says the show
felt like it had been written by a toddler who
couldn't write bum on a wall. USA Today wrote it
is so stilted, so artificial and awkward. Not even a

(01:37:31):
glass of wine and left over Halloween candy can make
it remotely enjoyable to watch the rap said, one wonders
if Murphy, that's Ryan Murphy, who's behind it. If Murphy
is engaged in some sort of social experiment to see
if he can get away with making the most transparently
terrible show on Disney's Dime, and The Telegraph's Ed Power
gave it a one star review, which some are seeing
as basically a rave. Like he loved it if it

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only got one star. He called the show a disaster
zone of soapy plotting and wreaking dialogue. Rotten tomatoes since
lifted slightly and has gone from zero percent to six percent.
So that's a crazy rave right there.

Speaker 31 (01:38:07):
When you got ants, that'll be that one star dragging
the average up. Don't stop believing by Journey to play
a game.

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
Yea yea yeah, yea yeah, yeah yeah yah yeah good, Paul.

Speaker 31 (01:38:15):
Yeah, because Journey is breaking up either after all those
years together, the band is splitting up. They're going to
be doing a farewell tour next year. You'll have to
get over to North America. You were saying, Canada if
you want to go from February to July. From the
looks of it, reading between the lines, the guitarist who's
been on board since the beginning and one of the
keys players who's been on board since nineteen eighty, they

(01:38:36):
don't get along anymore. So that's sort of the end
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:39):
Now, why did I feel like we already knew that
they were breaking up or was the latest news that
they were doing this tour? And now the news is
that the tour that they announced the other day. Fine,
old me.

Speaker 17 (01:38:49):
I had no idea Journey was still together.

Speaker 4 (01:38:51):
Do you know how I knew this was because do
you know Dan Mitchinson, who's our US correspondent, is obsessed
with them. Oh that's a band.

Speaker 31 (01:38:58):
Yeah, I'll tell you what if they do one in
the Bay Area, absolutely damned. He'll probably go to several
shows if they do something.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
Question for you, though, if they announced the coming to Auckland,
would you go?

Speaker 31 (01:39:06):
Absolutely not. It's not my kind of music. I'm happy
for people who want to go and enjoy it. But
yeah no, because it's a really good song. Well maybe
maybe one for the concert club. I get on the
phone of Sortner right now, see if you can book it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Oh lord, Yeah. My mate at eden Park show said,
do you reckon Journey could fill out Eden Park?

Speaker 9 (01:39:23):
No?

Speaker 17 (01:39:23):
No, you've got twenty shows. I mean here's one now
you left, think another nineteen?

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
I love this now. I bought tickets to something that
Oh Pulp, you told us, you said, Pulp. And then
then one of the concert club was listening and she
was like, absolutely, we're going to pop.

Speaker 31 (01:39:34):
We got tickets to Pulp excellent. What happened a Snoop
Dogg By the way, I was in Japan for that.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
What happened there and he canceled. What a surprisor shock,
But we got our money back, which I think was
the biggest shock anyway, See you on Monday. Look after
Yourself

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
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