Full Show Podcast: 08 October 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand to
coverage like no one else.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
News Talks have be.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today, Jared kurb
Kiwibank on the OCR, the Queenstown Airport guys on being
the best big airport in the country, and the rugby
boss on banning his players from going to the Saudi
Rebel League.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Heather Duplessy Ellen, good news.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
The Reserve Bank has finally done the thing many of
us thought was necessary, and they've gone for a double
cut in the OCR of fifty basis points. That's the
good news. The bad news is that they've been forced
to do it because they didn't do it earlier, as in,
they haven't cut as quickly as they should have. I mean,
think back to July and they actually chose not to
cut at all, which was clearly a mistake at the time,
but became even more of a mistake when we saw

(00:48):
the shock GDP number that followed, and that we saw
that in the three months before that decision, the economy
had actually contracted by a whopping zero point nine percent
in the Reserve Bank hadn't really noticed at all. And
the bad news, I suppose again is that they could
have cut a double cut last time, when two of
them on the Monetary Policy statement said we should go
double cut, but more of them said, now, let's just
go with a single cut. So they've gone with a

(01:09):
double cut today, vindication for two. It would seem we're
going to stick to the good news, though, which is
that finally the Reserve Bank has caught up with the
rest of us. The economy is cooked and we need
to do something, so they have delivered it. They admit
that this is a signal. The signal is it's okay
to go out and spend and invest because they've realized
finally that people are freaked out. Right, there have been

(01:31):
too many predictions of green shoots just before the economy
falls again, which freaked people out. There have been too
many bad surprises which freak people out. Business confidence is shot.
Look at the qbso yesterday. Consumer confidence is also yet
slightly increasing, but still really negative. People are holding onto
their money, they're saving instead of spending, They're worrying instead

(01:51):
of investing. This cut is a circuit breaker that's supposed
to snap us out of a fair our fear. Now,
there are some who worry that we are actually already
so freaked out that even this cut, given how big
it is, could spook us all over again. It's possible,
maybe it would happen, but I think what's more likely
is that it's going to give the assurance that people need,
and the assurances that the people in charge of the

(02:12):
economy actually realize how bad things are and are prepared
to be bold. And finally, they are prepared to be bold.
And I'll tell you what, it's better late than never
together do for c Allen. N nine two is the
text number. Standard text fees apply. Now, there are concerns
that that bribery scandal at the Auckland VT and Z
could reveal wider issues. Investigators have found testing officers were

(02:36):
accepting payments to pass practical exams, which resulted in over
three hundred people having to retake their licenses and five
staff being sacked. Now, Julie Haggee is Transparency International's executive
direct down with us. Now, Hey, Julie, Hi, there are
you surprised by this or is this the kind of
thing that you already expected was happening out there?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
We've already seen a couple of cases. There's one back
in twenty eighteen exactly the same kind end of the
but with a A. So we have seen that and
we've seen it other types of licensing. This is a
lot of areas where licensing transfers down from a government
through a law to a government department, then out to
a private company or whatever, or a professional and so

(03:16):
you have seen instances of cases going and building inspections
and professional other professional types of licensing. So it's it's
not unusual. What's what What you want to know, There's
two things. There's fairness transparency and this safety isn't there
really the cooreness core elements of it. So you want
to know that the agency responsible for doing the contracting

(03:40):
out which is or they're doing the license providing the license,
which is n z t A I presume has got
sufficient systems to be able to monitor they put in
place some expectations with the with the licensing agent of
ETNZ in this case ra A A and that they've
then that they're checking that and they've got checking mechanism
and that that then then the licensing the agents is

(04:02):
doing the same and you know and so on, so
that that that gives you some confidence that you're not
putting people who are incapable of driving, you know, two
thousand kilogram piece of metal und kilometers an hour on
the motorway. I mean it is a there is a
safety and risk issue in this one. It's quite serious
as well as the fairness, as everybody else sitting their

(04:23):
licenses wants it has to do it and they want
to know that that that nobody else is getting off
cheaply or unfairly.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
How would like these have come to light? If it's
been going on for years undetected, how do you suddenly detect?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
It be interesting to see because I mean, I hasn't
I mean, just just a note. There's been allegations of
bribery and people have been laid off, so I'm presuming
there might be a police investigation to follow them, and
then I would hope something like the Order to General
might have a look at the processes that occur between
those organizations to make sure that there's proper there's proper

(04:59):
revelation of the things happening. But we don't know. It
could have been a whistleblower, It could have been an
odd thing coming up could have been somebody dubbed them in,
so you don't know, and something like that where it's
a one to one unless you've got some chicking mechanism
like you might have. Whether they've got numbers of unusual
license behavior, you might have that, or you might have

(05:20):
you might have a conflict of interest decorations that they'd
be interesting to see if they did that, because you know,
that's an area that seems to have seems to be
an allegation of collusion in this case, as there was
in the twenty eighteen case as well, and so you
wonder about the behavior and the training and the culture
that was existing and whether any of those things had

(05:40):
an impact on people feeling like I can get away
with it. Yeah, and they have felt they've got they
could get away with and make profit out of it.
So that's what it seems to it allegations, but that's
what it seems to be the case.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Do you believe that's them? Do you believe our global
ranking which puts US at fourth for anti corruption? Yeah, well, it.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Does put us at forth fred ruption, and that's because
compared compared to other countries, there's a lot of good
things going on in New Zealand that aren't going on
in other countries. It is largely about public sector and
political integrity that corruption perceptions index, not about the private sector.
So that that is one thing. We do have corruption

(06:20):
in New Zealand just like everyone else has, and we're
slipping and these systems of integrity are what pull you
back and get you higher up. So this is another evident,
another sort of example of where systems that should be
traveling down the chain system as of integrity, you know,
the expectations of correct behavior, the checking, the monitoring, the

(06:41):
investigations when they cure good whistleblowing processes. Are they in place,
because if they're not further down the chain, then that's
just going to further erode people's trust in the whole system.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Very good point. Hey, thank you very much, surely, Julie Haggie,
Transparency International's executive director here in New Zealand. Hey, the
Danes have announced that they're going to ban social media
as well. They're not going for under sixteens, they're going
for under fifteens. Prime Minister there has announced it has
cited some figures for boys who are between the ages
of eleven to nineteen. So I get what would you

(07:14):
call that? Intermediate through to high school? She reckons sixty
percent of those boys intermediate through high school do not
see a single friend in their free time. They're all
just busy playing on the mobile phones. She says, we've
unleashed a monster. Never before have so many children and
young people suffered from anxiety and depression. On screens, they
see things no child or young person should see. Mobile

(07:35):
phones and social media are stealing our children's childhood and
they could do this, they reckon, hopefully as early as
next year.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Quarter past it's the Heather Topers Alan Drive Full Show
podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News talksp.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Are not a great poll for the National Party out
today at all, So I'm going to run you through
that shortly seventeen past four, who won board.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
With a tab?

Speaker 5 (07:59):
App?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Get your better on responsibility?

Speaker 3 (08:02):
You can't take you anywhere.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Darcy, who won the poll?

Speaker 6 (08:06):
Do you have a winner?

Speaker 7 (08:06):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
You're so lame. That's just what a dad joke.

Speaker 8 (08:10):
I'm talking about sport though I reference everything back to
they're a winner?

Speaker 6 (08:15):
No, right, okay, good, I know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I was commenting on the quality of your joke. Listen
Downsey Water grave Sports Talk cooast if you don't know
which loon I'm talking to right now. Do you look
at the rugby bosses coming out and saying to the players,
if you go to the Rebel League, you can't play
the black jersey. Do you see that as a sign
that they're worried about the Rebel League?

Speaker 6 (08:34):
Yes, yeah, they should be.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
Why they should be because this is backed by Saudi money.
They've got a lot of money. They don't care about profit,
they don't care about what they're going to make. They're
about diversifying away from oil, which has only got a
set amount of time before it disappears, regardless of what
some politicians over here think, it's going to go on forever.
I've got to stop this or get away from that.
But they're looking at sport because this is a wonderful

(08:58):
conduit to the human race and they're flying into it.
So they don't care to make any money and if
they throw enough money at people, they'll change. So world rugby,
you've gone, oh, hold on, this is a game changer.
We've got to say now, if you sign with this league,
you're not playing internationa rugby. Because they're freaked out. But

(09:18):
I like the way it's an upsetter in global rugby,
really do.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I love it, But there are serious questions and reasonable
questions as to whether it would work or not. Because
if you're basically doing what the World sevens are doing,
but you're doing World fifteens, are people going to turn
out and watch it? Is that a sustainable format?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But what this move indicates is they may well think
it is a sustainable format World Rugby.

Speaker 8 (09:39):
They are worried because they don't want to lose the cream,
and the best way they can stop the cream being
whipped off the top is by mind does no, But
they've got I'm led to believe the Herald understands. We
understand that there are a number of players weighing this up,
and they've got and they've got to be done kind
of fly November rest are the thing. So it's coming

(10:03):
rapidly toward the end of that. So World Rugby have gone, okay, look,
we need to draw on sand and we need to
get very soon to stop players, to discourage players.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I mean, isn't it just gonna what it'll mean? Is
it the Aaron Smiths of the world, instead of heading
off to Japan, will head off to Saudi money, like please,
he's not going to stop everybody.

Speaker 9 (10:22):
No.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
But also, and this drag on our players away for
money is already happening.

Speaker 8 (10:27):
There's a couple of aspects to this that I don't
think people quite understand, and one of those is the
player safety and how the players are affected by this,
and what guarantees are in place for the players around
what they do, how much they play, how long the contracts.

Speaker 10 (10:46):
For they are.

Speaker 8 (10:47):
That's why all these rugby boards there's eight of them now,
have said, you know, show extreme caution because they simply
don't know what the future holds. I don't know, So like,
if you're an Aran Smith here and older player, you're
not going to go any further. You've done everything you
need to do and there's a chance to make a
couple of million. Because people were talking big money. Yeah,
big money, maybe you just go you know what, I

(11:08):
don't care if it doesn't give me a sign on
fee and I'll run. So you're losing that in Maybe
some of the younger players who figure I'm not going
to get an all black jerzy anyway, so I'm going
to go and cash but Lester when he disappeared off
to France. Yeah, still really young. But if I might
have a chance, so I'll go and do it anyway.
You come back, he's back in the side again. But
if the rugby teams or nations concern say absolutely not,

(11:32):
that does stop that in its track. And it seems
to be very light on detail. Might be three sixty
A lot of bluster, a lot of we got this,
we're gonna do this, We're gonna do but not a
lot of detail. And I think you've got to be
aware of lack of detail from these moneyed overloads.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, very interesting. Are you talking about this on the show.

Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yeah, Rob Nichol's going to join US Rugby Players Association CEO.
You think you'd know a few things.

Speaker 9 (11:55):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Listen to half past five with me, because I'm gonna
talk to Mark Robinson, rugby boss. Okay, she listen to
mine and I'll listen to yours. What you're Okay, we're
gonna deal with politics for to anyone.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home. It's Heather dup Clan
drive with one New Zealand Hands of power of satellite
mobile news talks.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
They'd be hither the golf oil sheeks have already taken
over boxing golf. If one team's European football teams, et cetera,
money talks, world rugby can kick and screen, but the
players will go with the money is I actually agree,
and you know what, even more so than what Peter
has just said, I actually think it's good for rugby
because these guys will do what's good for the game.
Rug World rugby is not doing what's good for the game.
They've got dumb rules. These guys will change the rules

(12:42):
for their league to make it good for the game,
and I think it might actually improve the whole situation
and put a little fire up world rugbies. But anyway,
the pole, I'll tell you what people are National today
who looked at that and went, oh lord. National's results
start with the two twenty nine point six. Now you
could be generous, you could round that up to thirty,

(13:03):
but let's just see it for what it is. Twenty
nine point six not good at all. They've come back
three point five percent. Labour's now the biggest party, also
down two point six percent. They're sitting on thirty one
point two, the Greens twelve percent. They're up New Zealand
first ten point six percent, they're up two point five
that basically, I mean, hoovered up most of what the
Nats have dropped. Act Is on six point six percent,

(13:26):
they've gone up marginale and the Marti Parties on four
point four percent gone up marginally. I think this is
the first pole result that we've seen since the shock
GDP number came out, which I think is reflecting that
people are losing confidence in national being able to run
the economy. We'll talk to Barry Soaper about it shortly.
Also Jordan Williams, who's put out this pole with Taxpa's
Curier pole. He will talk us through it when he's

(13:46):
on the huddle later. Rons full twenty.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Six ever du per c Allen, did you know.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
That Willie Jackson blacklisted me for a year. I didn't
know that, but he went on Dom Harvey's podcast and
said it, what's.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Your relationship like Hosking and Heather? You did you have
you bleaklisted hither?

Speaker 7 (14:04):
Well, I'm back talking to her.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
I made a decision talking to her.

Speaker 11 (14:07):
I got bit upset with Heather because we were sort
of mates on Radio Live. For some reason, she can't
give you know, all of a sudden, you get nasty
all the time, and I got rid of it, and
I wouldn't have never I just decided not to talk
to so then it.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Was an incident, and it was because he was invited
to the Oxford debate.

Speaker 11 (14:24):
What had happened, though, was my daughter was listening to
Heather and she rubbished me on she gets Willy, what's
he going over? And my daughter came and then that's
when I got a bit upset because I thought, I
don't know, why.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
Will he go?

Speaker 12 (14:35):
Will he can?

Speaker 9 (14:36):
Will he talk?

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And all that?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
I thought, ah, you well, I mean that is a
fair question, though have you heard him talk anyway? He
didn't like it, so I thought, no, I'm not talking
to you anymore.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Heither.

Speaker 11 (14:43):
So that was twelve months and now I'm back talking
with her again. I just felt about, oh, stuffy, I
don't need to talk to you, you know, but she's uh,
you know, I've decided to talk with her again because
you know, she's out there.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
What he wanted to say was that he actually likes me,
but he couldn't say that. He couldn't. I like Willie Willy,
I like you. But how funny is it that he
blacklisted us. We didn't even know, Like literally, I told
the German I was like, did you know WILLI blacklisted us?
She was like did he? Anyway, we went back. Yes,
there was a period for a year where he wasn't
on the show, but none of us realized it, which

(15:19):
kind of makes the blacklisting hilarious. Anyway, look sorry to
Willy's daughter because that was not cool for me. I'm
sorry also for the records. We just get the straight
Willy is okay. Hey has got some mental ass ideas,
like some of them are so cooked you don't want
to go there. But I still like him, so welcome back.
No my height, am I Willie Jackson.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Whatever? Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It's Heather duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage
like no one else News Talk said, be.

Speaker 10 (16:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
The Sign of Breckers was rolled on twenty nine, just saying,
which is I suppose a fair point. Ben Thomas, former
National Party staffer and political commentator, will bear us ten
past five to talk us through whether history might repeat.
I'm I'm gonna put my money on no at the moment,
but you never know. By the way it sounds absolutely,
just because we're dealing with a bit of sport at
the moment sounds absolutely brutal. At the ATP Masters in Shanghai,

(16:24):
Novak Djokovic collapsed on court yesterday, and this was after
he vomited on Sunday, and it's after Ganick Sinner retired
due to cramps because of the heat, who fell on
his back and then he got himself finally into the
sitting position, put his head between his legs and had
to be taken back to the chair and give him
medical treatment, and then of course went on to win.
But the problem is that that, and this is a
debate tennis is having at the moment, is how hot

(16:45):
is too hot to play tennis because the temperature is
around about thirty degrees, which actually isn't really that hot,
But the problem is the humidity, which is hovering around
eighty percent. So they're gonna have to answer that question
because not the first time this has happened. Barry Soper,
by the way, on the pole in ten minutes time,
twenty four away from five, it's.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The world wires on youth talks, it'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Donald Trump met with the Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney
to talk tariffs and had plenty of nice things to say.

Speaker 8 (17:12):
He's a nice man, but he could be nasty. He
could be very nasty, maybe as nasty as anybody. He's
a good man, he does a great job, but he's
a tough negotiate him.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
But when asked why he can't do a deal with
the great man, Trump had this to say, because I
want to be a great man too. Over five hundred
hikers who were trapped on Mount Everest and the blizzard
have been rescued. The snowstorm came at the peak season
for local tourism. This American hiker described the scenes.

Speaker 8 (17:37):
All night long, there was just thunder and lightning right
on top of us, and the rain turned to snow.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
We're glad that we turned around when we did.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
And finally, Hello, I'm Bob Rusk. Gosh, that's the music
of a time, isn't it. Thirty paintings created by Barbras
on his TV show We'll Go to auction to support
public TV stations facing funding cuts. The joy of painting
was the name of the show, and the Bob Ross
Incorporated team say it's only right that his paintings give

(18:08):
back to the very medium that placed his creativity and
homes for decades.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Which is nice.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
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Speaker 3 (18:18):
Jonathan Kurvesley, US correspondence with US. Hello, Jonathan, Heather.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
They are always good to talk to you and the listeners.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Jonathan. What did you take away from the Trump CARTI meeting?

Speaker 9 (18:27):
Yeah, I think an extraordinary change of attitude. Realistically, this
looked like two men who were very comfortable in each
other's company. It was all very positive. It was all
very light. Gone was the sort of serious, semi serious
talk from the American President about Canada becoming the fifty
first state. There was one brief joke mentioned you played
that he wanted to be a great man too comment.

(18:47):
It was all relatively jovial. I mean, the toughest material
came when Donald Trump was actually asked domestic questions about
the government shutdown and issues along that line.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Between the two of them, well, it seemed.

Speaker 9 (18:58):
To be quite warm, quite cozy, and I think, you know,
you've got Australia's Prime minister heading over for his first
meeting with the American President in a couple of weeks time.
It might start to set a better tone for how
this American president is going to start treating more traditional
American allies. But this is Donald Trump, so watch this space.
But certainly a much warmer tone between Donald Trump and

(19:20):
McCartney today.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
How's Chicago feeling?

Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, I think Chicago's pretty much going to be on edge.

Speaker 9 (19:25):
And there's another two hundred National Guard I've been sent
in from Texas who finally made their way into Illinois.
They were flown in last night, made their way into
a military training facility this morning. They are now on
the ground in Chicago. The key issue now is going
to be how this city responds over the next forty
eight hours, because they've been told unless they can seriously

(19:46):
get a hold on crime in Illinois, and already we've
seen the state there try and sue the Trump administration
and stop this move from happening. They haven't been successful.
The Texas National Guard is going in and you could
well he protests kick up again outside immigration facilities over
the course of the next forty eight hours. And then
you go keep an eye on Portland too. I mean

(20:07):
Donald Trump's had efforts blocked there to try and get
the National Guard in Christy Noam his Homeland Security Secretary
tonight was saying that she's prepared to send more enforcement
Immigration enforcement agents in to surround the building. So this
is a real measure of force from the Trump administration,
and they need to watch this face closely. They are
democratic cities and things could heat up there.

Speaker 10 (20:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Are you as surprised as I was to see Taite
having to go on the late night TV and Hawker
wares You.

Speaker 9 (20:36):
Wouldn't have thought that somebody with as many Instagram followers
and a large bank account as she has really needs
to do that in order to sell an album. But
clearly she wants to get out and try and push
herself to a fans. She went on the Graham Norton
shown in the United Kingdom. It is Seth Myers tonight.
It was Jimmy Fallon on The Tonight Show last night
in an extraordinary.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Relatively open interview.

Speaker 9 (20:57):
If you like, I suppose a lot of what she's
saying now is largely repetitive. She's talking a lot about
the engagement I love for Travis Kelsey, how she's never
been happier in her entire existence, but very much pushing
her wears on this album.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
I think it's a very interesting strategy.

Speaker 9 (21:10):
Clearly, she must think that her fans want to see
her and want to hear from her other than just
Instagram posts and the album itself, So she's certainly making
this a very very public push, even talking about supposed
speculation that was around that she had rejected a deal
to sing at the Super Bowl because of a dispute
over the ownership of the television footage, essentially saying, look,

(21:33):
it's not a no, it's just a no now because
she's more interested in watching a fiance play American football.
So it's a watch this space on that front. But Yeah,
I think you're right. I think it's very interesting that
you've got the world's biggest pop star doing the late
night TV rounds pushing this album as much as she is.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I know you're a big swifty. Are you enjoying the album?

Speaker 10 (21:52):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (21:52):
I know you're a big swifty too. I think it's
last week off to go and listen to it as well.
I think we were exchanging mental messages over the course
of the Pacific Ocean on our feedback on the album.

Speaker 6 (22:06):
I listened to it last week. Look, it's interesting.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
I think there's a few songs there that even the
Swifties might think, oh, maybe this one not so keen
on certainly some of the die hard Swifties. I've spoken
to her a little bit up in arms about a
few of them, but she clearly has her eyes set
on trying to make something a little bit different. There's
a bit of a hark back to some of her
older stuff, and she's a little bit racier with some
of the newest stuff, particularly.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Songs that are supposedly around Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
But hey, look she seems happy, and who can deny love?
Who can deny happiness? The more happiness we have in
the world, I think the better the post Oh you.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Make Me suck? Jonathan, thank you very much, appreciate it
and enjoy the album. Jonathan Keursley UIs correspondent. I was
asking Jonathan because the spin off, they've got two of
their senior journalists, Lyric and Alex, who are trying to
figure out why is that Taylor Swift's new album kind
of sucks? And it's because she sounds so bitter. Apparently
so not everybody loves at eighteen Away from.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Five Ether do for see out well?

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I oh here the Simon Bridges was rolled, but the
result was an absolute cluster. Do you remember that?

Speaker 13 (23:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Oh yeah, No. No, I'm not talking about it because
I wanted to happen. I'm just talking about it because
these things happen anyway. I've been meaning to address something, Okay,
so I'm going to do it now, And it's basically
because I'm only getting around to it now because of
just you know, workflow. Anyway, few people have raised with
me that while I was on holiday, one of the
things that happened was that the police revealed they'd spotted

(23:30):
the Tom Phillips family a bunch of times in the bush,
and they were surprised. And I was surprised too to
hear that, because that is not the impression that I
was given by Richard Chambers when he was on the
show just a few days, if not the day after
Tom Phillips was shot. Did you come across them in
four years in the bush?

Speaker 7 (23:50):
Well, had we come across them in a way, we
could have brought the tour.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
No, No, I just did did you come across them? Did
any of your officers come across them in the bush?

Speaker 7 (23:58):
No?

Speaker 3 (23:58):
No, never once, never in four years? Never once.

Speaker 7 (24:02):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
So I talked to police about this, and they said
Richard thought that I was asking if actual police officers,
like actual humans, had bumped into the Tom Phillips family
in the bush. And he's right to say, no, that
didn't happen, because actually what had happened is they'd spotted
them in transit with motion activated cameras and drones. And
then Richard's comms woman just gave me a little bit

(24:26):
of constructive feedback and was like, maybe, either, if you
don't interrupt so much, he might be able to finish
his sentence, which would have told you that. So Richard
wasn't so just for the just for the benefit, just
for the avoidance of doubt. Here, Richard was not lying
to us. I just did a crap interview. Sixteen away
from five.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
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Speaker 3 (24:47):
Certainty, Tory Faro has delivered her valedictory speech. We will
deal with that short lets thirteen away from five and
Barrio Sober, senior political correspondence in studio. Pardon how tragic
she's honestly okay, the ocr what did you make of this?

Speaker 5 (25:01):
Well, I think what it did do was vindicate the
two on the Monetary Statement Committee that they voted for
fifty basis points last time round. And really what it
shows is that the Reserve Bank has been lagging behind
the economy. What it should be doing is injecting impetus

(25:24):
into the economy. And I think what it goes to
show Heather is just how powerful the Reserve Bank is.
I mean, you know, we heard Adrian All saying he
was going to engineer a recession. He didn't know he's
going to engineer a couple of recessions. It could be,
so I say good riddance, and now we've sort of
moved on from that.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
I've got to say.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
The Finance Minister was beaming premiere to air after the announcement,
saying it's obviously great news for homeo owners with mortgages
and for the economy in general.

Speaker 12 (25:54):
What we know is that over the next six months,
around half of mortgage debt will roll off a high
end straight, giving those people an opportunity for a lower
interest rate. So what that suggests is that we are
not yet feeling the full effect of interest rate reductions
that have already happened, and we should be able to
see accelerating relief over the coming months. The reason I
care about lower interest rates is I know that in

(26:15):
every economy in the world where you have lower interest rates,
people do better, and that's what we were elected to see.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
And stepping up to the mic just after Nichola Willis
was Labour's Barbara Edmonds. She was also enthusiastic about the
ocr drop today, saying she hopes it'll see inflation coming
down and making things generally more affordable.

Speaker 14 (26:35):
I'm comfortable seeing inflation coming down so that people can
afford food on their table. My concern again is that
inflation is biting hard on Kiwis who are feeling it
the most, and that's really at the grocery and in
those administered costs which they can't avoid.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yeah, and in the house itself heather with lower interest
rates and more money flowing. The question Labors Chris Hopkins
asked the Prime Minister today would see to be a
foregone conclusion.

Speaker 15 (27:01):
Mister speaker, when he's been out and about why hasn't
he been talking to the businesses who say that hiring
staff is not their primary constraint for growth, given that
only four percent are saying that, whilst sixty three percent
of businesses, according to NZI are saying the real problem
is not enough customers.

Speaker 16 (27:19):
Well, the economy has been in a recession caused by
your reckless spending. You put the country into the biggest
recession in thirty five years.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
You've created the.

Speaker 16 (27:28):
Longest COVID hangover of any in the Western world. You
actually made sure that you tripled the debt for goodness sake,
and we now have a ten billion dollar interest bill.
We're cleaning up the Labor government's mess. It's that simple,
and I.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Guess we're all hoping that mess will be finally behind
us at some stage that the interstrate bill for the
government is going to take a lot more time to clear.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
How much trouble in luxem and Willison with a pole
that puts them now in the.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
Twos Yes, I know, well just twenty nine point six percent.
You know, statistical margin of era is three percent. But
having said that, it's not a good result for the
government clearly, and I think it bears out what the
general mood of the populace has been saying that things
are not looking good. The cost of living's too much.

(28:17):
That's the main concern in this poll. The economy second,
and you know, the Labor Party is slightly ahead, and
the center left would be the government of an election
was held today but center left with the Maldi Party
and the Greens. The Greens lifted their rating as well,
I think, to twelve percent. So you know, I don't
know where they get all the support from, but they're

(28:39):
getting it, and which Peters is the biggest when they're
in those two point five percent.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Look, it's protest numbers right if it actually came to voting.
I don't know that the country is ready to re
elect Chippy because Chippy is part of the You're one
of the biggest reasons that we are in the situation
that we're in.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
But do does the voter have the memory?

Speaker 17 (28:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I think so. I think so. I think the greater
threat to I still think the right block wins, but
I think the greater threat is that the right block
wins with the National Party much diminished and the two
supporting parties act in New Zealand first figure, don't you think?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Well?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
And that calls back I mean, just think about the
mechanism here, the mechanics of this right that causes problems
because then you've got a whole bunch of National MPs
in seats who losing on the list who losing that
and want to lose their business and then they do
what Well, I'm.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
Not going to do that the side of the election.
That's not doubt about that.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Okay, silent song. I'm just leaving a pause. No like
leaving a pause for dramatic effect.

Speaker 5 (29:32):
It's like I said, though, whether the drop the ocr
by fifty basis points today, was I right or was
I right?

Speaker 10 (29:41):
No? That it was you?

Speaker 3 (29:42):
And yeah anyway, so then what did the Greens do?
Tell me about the Greens?

Speaker 5 (29:46):
Well, Chloe Swarburg's been in the news a lot lately,
so today she was doing her best in Parliament lecturing
the Prime Minister no less over the government's moves this
week against eighteen and nineteen year olds on the doll
Here she.

Speaker 13 (29:59):
Is, the Prime Minister understand the basic mass that if
there are four job seekers to every job that is
available in this country, all of his cuts to job
seeker support couldn't hope to possibly punish people into ghost jobs,
but will only deepen poverty and homelessness.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Point of order, the Honorable David.

Speaker 18 (30:23):
Single, Now, that's not actually a question designed to get
information for the public.

Speaker 9 (30:27):
It's an attempt at theater and making a speech.

Speaker 19 (30:30):
Well, let'd be very clear, attempts at theater are regular occurrency.

Speaker 16 (30:33):
This out on this side of the government. We care
about young people. We're not prepared to actually just have
them languishing and consign to welfare like a Labour Greens government.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
Well, the pulses, it could be one, but.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
You never wanned Barry. Thanks very much, Barry so for
seeing your political correspondence. Seven away from five.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
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Speaker 1 (30:55):
I have a training troubler?

Speaker 15 (30:56):
Over three hundred and twenty two of us have to
reset the license after office is allegedly accepted cash bribes
to past practical test Mark Rebel Johnson's the president of
the New Zealand Institute of Driver Educators.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Is this do you think a one off?

Speaker 20 (31:08):
We don't know an awful lot about it. However, when
you consider the number of driving tests that's happened well
into the thousands weekly, three hundred and twenty two over
a couple of year period is actually quite a small number.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
It doesn't make it right.

Speaker 20 (31:19):
Mark, No, No, absolutely not. I quite agree. And we
need to have faith in this system and it needs
to be look a thought, this all strikes me as
being unbelievably third world. It is certainly how that impression.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
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Speaker 3 (31:35):
I don't have time right now to talk about Torrifino's
valedictory speech, so we're going to do it in the
next hour. What I need to talk to you about
is Queenstown Airport. Now, Queenstown Airport has been named the
Large Airport of the Year, like as in the biggest
New Zealand large Airport for the year at the awards
which were held last night. Now, why am We're going

(31:55):
to talk to Queenstown Airport about this in twenty minutes time.
Why I'm interested in this is that have you been
to Queenstown Airport? Because I was in Queenstown Airport on
Sunday and I was there with a very good friend
of mine. We were flying back home and we were
remarking on the fact that we have never been that
we've never been in an airport as cruddy as Queenstown Airport.

(32:17):
It's a man, I'm it's a beautiful place.

Speaker 18 (32:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
They've done a lot of really nice stuff with it,
But have you been if you've been there, have you
ever been there? And that has not just been a
horde of people. This was a horde of people somewhere.
Are you trying to get your bags? It's a horde
of people. You're trying to get through that horde of people.
You're going to encounter them somewhere, and you in your
trip around Queen's Town Airport, I encountered them as we
were trying to get on the plane. They were like,
it's the last call or passengers must board your and

(32:43):
us in unflaked to Auckland and we got there and
we were like, oh, it's last call. There's a horde
of people all trying to get on board, and that
it just took and I just thought, oh Lord, Like,
only Queenstown Airport can stuff up getting on your plane
like this. Anyway, Obviously I thought this was everybody's experience.
It clearly isn't, because it's the best airport in the
whole country.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
So going to talk.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
We're going to talk to them and try to understand
this when they're with us. In twenty minutes time, Heather,
when labour starts putting out policy. I think the polls
will turn back to the right. I think Steve is
right there because when Labour starts putting out policy, they're
going to put out their capital gains tax and we're
all going to go, h nah, not this time, not
like last time, not this time. So we'll see how
that goes. Anyway, I will talk about that short They're

(33:22):
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Speaker 3 (33:44):
Afternoon. The Reserve Bank has finally dropped a double cusps,
taking the official cash rate to two point five percent.
The bank says it's also open to further reductions. Jared
Kerr is Keiwi Bank's chief economist.

Speaker 21 (33:54):
Hi, Jared, Good evening.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
I mean some of us were expecting it, but it's
still surprising.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Were you surprised, No, we weren't.

Speaker 17 (34:02):
We thought it was needed and the Reserve Bank has
finally sort of realized that, yeah, hey, look we need
to take in straight into stimatory territory, and here we are.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Will it give us the confidence to spend like they
hope it will?

Speaker 17 (34:15):
It will certainly help.

Speaker 10 (34:16):
Yeah, it'll certainly help.

Speaker 17 (34:18):
And we expect things to pick up over summer as
a result of these rate cuts. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Are you still expecting twenty five in November?

Speaker 10 (34:25):
Here we are.

Speaker 17 (34:26):
I don't think the job's done just quite just yet.
It'd be great to get the cash right down to
two and a quarter and then we'll think about whether
we need it to go down to two in February.
It'll all come down the house, things play out over summer.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Are you seeing this as an acknowledgment that they got
it wrong?

Speaker 7 (34:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (34:43):
Yeah. They told us they didn't need to cut further
earlier in the year, and here they are cutting further.
So it's disappointing that this two and a half percent
cash right wasn't delivered six months ago because it would
have fed through by now. But we've got it today
and it's going to feed through over the next six months.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
So would you because we had a double cut in
what was it, February? So would you have actually double
cut again in April?

Speaker 10 (35:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (35:09):
Absolutely, that's what we were calling for. We've been calling
for two and a half percent cash rates two years.
We knew it needed to go below neutral, which is three,
and we needed to get some stimulus into the economy
to really ignite the recovery. We haven't got it. The
economy is still spluttering. We're still in a recession, and

(35:30):
that just shouldn't have been the case.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Some say that this double cut may in fact spook
people because people are already so nervous. What are the chances?

Speaker 17 (35:38):
No, I don't believe in that at all. I think
people will take it for what it is. They'll see
their mortgage rates falling, they'll see their business lending rates falling,
and there'll be a sigh of relief. You know, it'll
free up cash for them to do what they haven't
been able to do up until now.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
So, Jared, what are you picking for the economy next year?

Speaker 17 (36:00):
Look, we think we get the recovery which we should
have got this year. We think you'll see growth of
around one to two percent next year, so a significant
improvement and what we've had, and then you know, things
will continue into two thousand and seven as we sort
of pick ourselves up off the ground.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Good stuff, Jared, Thanks very much appreciated. Jared Kirky, we
Banks chief Economists, who has actually been right the whole
way through. Heather wind Does, the new boss of the
rbnz'st Mark. I think she starts in December, but her
first call will be in I think the new year,
ten past five.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Heather do for c Ellen right, We're going to.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Get Ben Ben Thomas is not answering the phone to
talk about the pole. If you know Ben Thomas, can
you get Ben Thomas to because it's not a surprise,
not a surprise really and at all. If you could
get Ben Thomas to answer the phone, that'll be fantastic.
In the meantime, I'm going to run you through the
results of the pole if you haven't already heard it.
This is the Taxpayer Union Curier poll nets are unfortunately
for the first time in the two's twenty nine points

(36:55):
six down three and a half points. New Zealand First
has gained a lot of that. They're up to and
a half points. That's I think it's close to eleven
acts down ever so slightly just under seven. Labor is
now the biggest party on thirty one. Greens are on twelve.
Malori parties on four and a half, Former National Party
staffer Ben Thomas has answered the phone and is with
us Hello, Ben Kota, what are you putting this down to?
Is this just reacting to the GDP shock.

Speaker 10 (37:19):
Well, I don't think it's the GDP shock, you know,
in terms of the release of a statistic. I think
it's just the continuation of really tough economic times that
there hasn't been a lot of let up for for voters.
You know, since this government came into power two years ago.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Does this if you believe that, then do you think
it turns around when the economy picks up.

Speaker 10 (37:42):
I mean you would have to expect that there would
be some kind of bump, you know, when touching would
we're going to say when the economy picks up. You know, Look,
there is a problem in the sense that I guess
the National Party leadership, which is the part of the
government that's most identified with the economy for its reasons,

(38:02):
the Prime Minister and the Finance Minister have been sort
of almost doing the opposite of the chicken little thing, saying,
you know, the economy is recovering, the economies are recovering.
People have not tended to see it happening, and so
that kind of erodes credibility and leadership and reputations for
economic management and those sorts of things that you see

(38:23):
at other surveys and poles and so, Look, I think
it does have you know, a long term wearing effect
probably as well. But I think that once the economy
starts going, things would have to start looking up for
the government.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Do you think Luxin's in trouble on these numbers?

Speaker 10 (38:40):
Look, as a prime minister, you wouldn't want to see
many polls where your party was in the twenties, you know,
even just barely dipping under. Now, you know that is
a sort of psychological threshold.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Well because also I mean some in Bridges, not a
prime minister, but the leader. Some in Bridges was rolled
on twenty nine.

Speaker 10 (39:01):
Simon Bridges, I think was rolled on thirty nine, twenty.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Nine on the one news Callma Brunton Pole.

Speaker 10 (39:07):
Oh was it okay?

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (39:08):
I mean we used to be sort of, you know,
thinking that anything in the you know, in the middle
low thirties was a disaster for a National Party leader. Look,
the thing is that at this point, although the trend
is certainly going against the government and the National Party
in particular when you look at the raw numbers, when

(39:31):
you look at the likely election results, it's still very
much a toss up. You would say, this upside coming
when if the economic recovery really kicks in. And so
there is a lot of risk if you were going
to change a leader. You know, if you were starting
from scratch, if there was a terrible accident that wiped
out the entire caucus or something like that, you know,

(39:54):
would Christopher Luxen be the person that you would choose.
Probably not at this point. On the other hand, there's
a lot of risk attendant. You know, you might get
your Cinder Dun, you might get Todd Muller. It is
hard to tell how people will perform in those roles
or how the public will perceive sort of you know,
the perception of instability. And so right now you see

(40:15):
and it's not just National labor as well. It is
hardly performing at historic or heroic eyes. They're in the
low low thirties, and so it's almost a bit of
a race to the bottom. But again same issue, probably
a fifty to fifty chance if an election was held
yet tomorrow, that they would win and former government and

(40:36):
so it's almost what you know, if you're a physicist,
you could call a very very non dynamic equilibrium where
the risks could be are perceived to probably outweigh the
upsides of any kind of big change or gamble.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Ben, thank you, has always appreciated Ben Thomas, former National
Party staff. But by the way, here is Chris Luxen.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
It's been, no doubt about it.

Speaker 16 (40:57):
At a tough time, New Zanders voted and our government
to af fix the economy and.

Speaker 7 (41:02):
Get it growing.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
We work incredibly hard to do it.

Speaker 7 (41:04):
I don't deny it's been difficult and it's still tough.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Heather. Remember John Keith. This is just on the Reserve Bank.
Remember John Key got pilloried because he said the Reserve
Bank should drop the rate by one percent. Yeah, we
all looked at that and went, oh that's bold. Well
I think actually since then they have dropped the rate
by as he said, one percent. Let's deal with Queenstown
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Speaker 3 (42:29):
Nineteen past five. Now New Zealand's best large airport is
not Auckland, not Wellington, not christ Church, Queenstown. Judges from
the New Zealand Airport's Awards said the airport had exceptional
performance across safety, commercial and community outcomes, and that they
were particularly impressed with Queenstown's new end of runway safety system.
Todd Grace is the airport's chief operating officer and with

(42:50):
us Hello Todd, Hello here, how are you very well?
Thank you? Congrats?

Speaker 22 (42:54):
Have you guys celebrated, Yes, we're starting to celebrate. I
think the team that we're up in Blend last night
may have celebrated into the wee small hours. So we're
going to do something with the team over the next
couple of days.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
But we're really pleased.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Okay, so were you expecting it?

Speaker 22 (43:10):
You never really expected and we're relatively smaller airported in
the large yearport category, but you know, we've done a
great job and you know we've grown back really strong
post COVID. We're about the only airport in New Zealand
that is back past pre COVID levels where it's at
one hundred and twenty percent of COVID, So and you know,
our customers love coming here, the airlines love coming here.

(43:30):
In the region has a lot to offer. So I
think we think we do a really good job.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Yeah. So I love what you've done with some of
the new stuff and the new toilets that you've made
in the departure lounge. Is it looks really great. But Todd,
I was a little surprised because I was there on
Sunday and we were talking about how it's always chaotic
at Queenstown Airport. Why is it always chaotic at Queenstown Airport.

Speaker 22 (43:52):
Well, we do have these peaks in the afternoon, and
you know, we suffer from our own popularity, and so
we know that we've got quite a lot of work
ahead of us and we're really just at the beginning
of that. So some of the things that we've done
have been to improve the customer experience and get the
airfield working right.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
And we've got just need more space, don't you Because
you know, you go you go to the screening gates,
you go through that weird like little rat race thing
that you do, and then you're like straight into the
screening space and then out the other and it's just
so tight. Isn't that your problem?

Speaker 6 (44:23):
Yeah, well we do.

Speaker 22 (44:24):
We absolutely need more space. And and we're probably one
of those airports that suffered from about to start something
pre COVID and the wheel changes and we come back
from COVID and it all bounces back. So we're just
at the beginning of that. And we know that at
certain times of the day it is tight. And that's
why we have a plan and we've and we've worked
through that through with airlines about how to develop the
terminal and how to grow more space.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
Infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
You put the corral club on the right side of
the screening a that stops.

Speaker 22 (44:51):
That stops that mad rush to screening. But you know
infrastructure and airports, as most airports around the world. Fine,
it takes time to get stuff and.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
Get to live it.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Hey will listen. Thanks, And I'm a little bit sorry
that I introduced a negative I am sorry that I
introduced a negative tone to your when you deserve it, obviously, Todd,
because I'm not the judges. They are. Todd Grace, chief
operating office at Queenstown Airport. Right, let's deal with Truan.
I've got some good news on the Truancy stand by
five twenty.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
One, hard questions, strong opinion.

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Speaker 3 (45:28):
We have Mark Robinson, boss of the Rugby on banning
any of those players going to the Saudi League from
playing for the All Blacks five point twenty four. I've
got some good news for you on the truancyy. It
looks like we're actually getting somewhere with getting the kids
back into the class. There's the RO report which has
come out today showing attendance is now back to pre
COVID levels. We have more kids thinking that daily attendance

(45:48):
is important than the number of kids who thought that
about three three years ago, and we have more kids
now never wanting to miss school. Now, this doesn't mean
that the problem is solved.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
We still have a way to go. Even on these numbers.
Our goal is to get regular attendance back to eighty percent.
It has improved, but it is still languishing at fifty
eight percent, so you can see the gap there as massive.
What I think is really interesting is what comes next.
Before you think that this is not a me problem.
This is a problem with Darrow parents who can't be
bothered getting their kids off the couch. Actually, the biggest problem,

(46:19):
according to this report is parents in nice areas pulling
their kids out of school during term time for a
nice little holiday in Fiji or maybe Queenstown. So parents,
nice parents need to lift their game and before educators think, yeah,
that's right, it's the parents problem. Actually, how about the
educators set a bit of an example here as well,
because right now, if you've been following what's going on
with the teacher strike, they are striking in part because

(46:41):
they do not want to have to come in during
their extensive holiday time to do work in class, even
though they paid. They would rather be doing teacher only
days during term time. Now, what it seems to me
is that in both cases here it's the adults who
the kids are doing their bit. By the looks of things,
it's the adults here who need to set the example.
Teacher training during your break, not in the school at

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the term time. That cuts down kids learning. Take your
kid on holiday by all means, but how about you
try doing it during the holiday. Yes, it's expensive, but
how about you try doing it in the holidays and
teaching your kids to prioritize schooling. The good news is
that we are getting some wins. The bad news as adults,
still have a little bit of work.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
To do here, Heather du pusy Ellen Heather.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
As a pilot, I'm quite surprised about the Queenstown Airport
award because the airport is actually a nightmare. It's too
small for the number of people and planes. So it's
not just me thank you. Now, I just wouldn't give
Tory Farno a little bit of credit here because I
thought that her valedictory speech to the council today was
surprisingly gracious to the fellow counselors, given how much fighting

(47:42):
there has been between them.

Speaker 19 (47:43):
To Diane, your opposition has been particularly strong, and if
you've become the mayor, I can't wait to be yours.
To ray Tony and Nicola, we've rarely seen eye to eye,
but I do respect that the fight that you bring
to the table and the way that you stand up
for your communities.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Now to I mean's Tory. So she did go on
to be a little bit less gracious to the government
and a little bit less gracious to some very capable
and wonderful former mayors like Kerry, Brenda Gasten, Fran Wilde
and so on. I mean, she's not naming them, but
I am for you just so you know the caliber
of the people. So she was less gracious to them.
But then you know, to be fair to her, it
was valid what she said about in both cases. What

(48:27):
I thought when I listened to her speaking today was
it would have been nice to see more of this Tory.
We saw a lot of Tory getting in trouble because
she was two boozed, not paying her bill, Tory complaining
about being whatever it was like, what was she adhd
I don't know, not turning up to like being a
slacker and not turning up to work. All of that
stuff was so negative. If we're seeing a bit more
of this gracious Tory, like it might have put her

(48:47):
in done her a little bit of good anyway, Mark Robinson,
next News Talks'd be.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
It's Heather Duper c Ellen Drive were one New Zealand
coverage like no one else newth Talks, there'd be.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
K you're going to want to hear about this report
that we've got our hot little hands on. One in
ten homes are at risk of the getting flooded in
this country. We'll talk about that after six. Heather as
an ECEE teacher at a public kindy, we have to
do personal development professional development every school holidays for the
second week. We don't have two week holidays, only one

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as in like they take one week's holiday, then they
come back for the second week and they do the
professional development. I can't see why primary teachers can't do
this too. And also we always back. We're always back
on the twentieth of January, so it's just four weeks
at Christmas, not six. Do you know what my son
is in kindy? That's exactly how they operate and if
we can we treat kindy exactly the way that we
treat Kendy is how we should be treating higher education,

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which some of us may argue is even more important.
Twenty four away from six huddles standing by now, rugby
unions across the world have declared war on the new
Saudi backed Rebel league. They've banned any place who take
up the contract from playing for the All Blacks, the
spring Box, the Wallabies, any other national team. The CEO
of New Zealand Rugby is Mark Robinson.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
Harmark Heather Hike?

Speaker 18 (50:09):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
I'm very well, thank you? So are you banning someone
from being an All Black if they've played in the league,
like while they're playing in the league, or if they've
ever played in the league.

Speaker 21 (50:18):
Look, no, this is not a change to anything we've
done historically. Our eligibility criteria will remain exactly the same.
So we obviously sleep players out of our own domestic competitions,
and if players choose to play the club rug the overseas,
then they're not eligible for.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
The right going to play for Japan.

Speaker 21 (50:37):
Yeah, it is, I mean the reason I guess there's
a bit of wider context here around joining as a
signatory to the statement put out from national unions overnight.
It doesn't change our policy in this space at all.
But why we joined the list was basically to signal
some concerns and questions about the R three sixty competition

(50:58):
and to put out a unified position from national unions.
A lot of those national unions haven't been or aren't
always as clear or public as we are because of
the scrutiny that sits in New Zealand about this policy,
so they wanted to from perspective, So you.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Guys, you guys are being consistent. But the likes of Australia,
where they do select overseas based players, they are taking
a different stance, aren't they.

Speaker 21 (51:26):
Well yeah, it's it's for Australia or other countries to
speak to that.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
But can you explain to me why why are the
why why is wild rugby? These rugby unions banded together
to take such a hard line on the Saudi Back League.

Speaker 21 (51:42):
Well, it's not like I say, from our position, England's position,
there are a number of countries where this is very
France Island, that's very consistent with what they've done historically.
I think the key part of the point, apart from
eligibility is to form the statement, is to outline the
roles of national union and the roles that we have
to what we call a whole of game approach around

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investing in community rugby, volunteers, referees, you know a wide
range of activities which we want to just signore some
concern about if the league comes into the rugby ecosystem
and is not clear on how it wants to invest
in the wider game, what the impact of that can.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Have Have you read Grant Robertson's book No. Page two
hundred and forty three in the halftime break?

Speaker 21 (52:30):
What has he got a view on our three sixty
or something?

Speaker 3 (52:33):
No, listen to this Mark. In the halftime break, I
confronted New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson in the big
reception room at Eden Park about the absence of senior
New Zealand rugby people in fung at A. This is
during the Women's World Cup tournament. Our conversation grew a
bit heated. Mark was very defensive about how much work
they had put into the tournament. I felt the investment
blah blah blah blah blah. He reckons. He realized that

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people in the room had stepped several meters away, and
on reflection, I was probably being a bit overly. Do
you remember that?

Speaker 7 (53:01):
Really?

Speaker 21 (53:02):
Now? I don't recall ever having anything too heated with Grant.
What I would say, though, is that I'm glad that
he recognized we did an amazing job to get the
tournament here, considering what other countries put on the table
from a government investment point of view, that we managed
to get it here. So I'm glad that got recognized.
But they always had a lot of time for Grant
and had a lot of fun to around some great
sporting events around the world.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Nicely handled. Mark Mark Robinson, the CEO of New Zealand Rugby.
It's twenty away from six.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your
one of a kind on the.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Huddle with us this evening we have Mark Sainsbury broadcaster
Jordan Williams Taxpayers Union. Highlads, you hear that right saying so.
I mean it's pretty clear that if they're taking the
stance on the players, they're worried about that league, aren't they?

Speaker 23 (53:45):
Of course, just have a look at live golf. I
was talking to some people, well who I suspect on
the lessen the periphery of this, and said, well, it's
the golden rule. Whoever's got the gold rules? And you're
talking about a bottomless pit of money?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah, what are they worried about?

Speaker 7 (54:03):
Surely?

Speaker 23 (54:04):
Well the other thing is surely one of the first
things when they were setting this thing.

Speaker 7 (54:08):
Up they must have thought, right, what are the rugman
unions going to do?

Speaker 23 (54:11):
Well, I'll say you're not going to be test eligible,
so all the stuff would have been through. So are
they going to end up having to if there's a
hemorrhage of players, then.

Speaker 7 (54:22):
They're going to have to be the same as for
the golf. You're going to have to deal with the devil.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Do you know what, Jordan, I don't think that the
span is going to make a difference because it sounds
like the kind of players that they're hoovering up are
Roger twy us a checks right, who've had a crack
at playing in the black jersey. It didn't work, and
so he's got nothing to lose.

Speaker 18 (54:38):
Yeah, I'm just not convinced competing leagues are bad for
viewers all for players. Yeah, and that's why they're worried,
you know. No, they're in a dominant position. Latch competition
coming along.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah too, right now, Soons, how do you feel about
that double cut You happy?

Speaker 7 (54:54):
Oh? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I mean did you just lose concentration?

Speaker 18 (54:58):
No?

Speaker 7 (54:58):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 23 (54:59):
When you said double cutters, I suddenly thought under anyways.
But but yeah, I mean it's interesting again, I mean
that people sort of isn't it funny? Just has something
like that can just change the mood. So people are
already saying we may finally start to see the green
shoots coming through.

Speaker 7 (55:17):
You know, that's that's that's the feeling. But you know,
maybe things are turning.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yep, Jordan, I reckon it's eight going to work, but
it is be like Jared kur said an admission of
having made a mistake by the Reserve Bank.

Speaker 18 (55:29):
Yeah, you're going to hear the corks and the beehive
down the road from this, but it's pretty risky. You know,
we two point seven are not. But at the upper
end of the of the band, there is some risk
with this. And this is a bank that you know
only recently has seriously overshot. It doesn't fix the fundamentals
which really needs to be done. But on the in

(55:51):
the beehive, and that is you know, get on top
of inflationary government spending. This is a be a good
sugar hit and cheap money means that you know, we
should get back to growth. But fundamentally it doesn't get
doesn't it doesn't get any gill and back on track.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Yeah, the reason that the bee hives will be popping
the corks is because of that in part because of
that poll today, right, how much trouble are they in
if they're in the NATS to start with the two.

Speaker 18 (56:15):
Well, I mean that's so very naturally I call the
various party leaders or party leaders officers depending of his
oppositional government to give them a heads up on the pole.
Really as a market respects to us before we put
it out, I could laugh at the I'm not going
to I'm not going to dock them. But the very
senior National Party person he said twenty nine point six.

(56:39):
You can round that to thirty, can't.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
You, Because it's an acknowledgment that it is a really
bad thing.

Speaker 18 (56:45):
Right, Yeah, that's a pretty you know, it is a cycle.
I mean, reality doesn't really matter. I mean both Labor
and National were down. National we're down to smudge more
three and a half points. I mean, but it's been
a terrible four weeks for the government. I mean, that's
so giggy numbers alone. You pointed out very well here
there in the weekend on energy that if this government

(57:08):
does go down next year, it's not going to be
because they have done too much. It's that they haven't
hit the go button fast enough and they're not doing enough.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Yeah, I mean I think, Yeah, that's a theme that's
coming through, isn't it saying? So what do you reckon?
You've watched your fair amount of pot like your fair
share of politics. How bad is it for these guys?

Speaker 23 (57:27):
Well, well, one of the things I noted was that
when our.

Speaker 7 (57:30):
Preferred PM is getting twenty point.

Speaker 23 (57:32):
Nine percent less top of the pile, you've got a
bit of a christ of confidence. I think you look
at I mean Christopher Lexi modeled himself and John Key.

Speaker 7 (57:42):
You look at when John keevers PM.

Speaker 23 (57:44):
I don't think sixty five percenty peak to one stage,
it's just to and.

Speaker 7 (57:48):
It continued going up until he decided to go.

Speaker 23 (57:51):
Although I did think KRYSTALH. Lexon took the right approach,
because what else can you do. You've got to say,
hang on, we've been elected to do this. The election's
still some time away, come and see us. Then you
have to explain yourself every single time. You know, it's
the old explaining is losing. But I thought he took
the right approach, but the delivery was terrible.

Speaker 18 (58:10):
They haven't delivered what they were elected to do, says
I mean, they were elected to take.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
All government spending. They've taken the political hit for doing.

Speaker 18 (58:19):
It, but they haven't had the economic upside because they haven't.
They're elected to tackle the co government stuff and the
divisive stuff we had from the last government, and everyone
can see they don't really stand for what they said
they would.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
That's fair, isn't it says that?

Speaker 23 (58:34):
Yeah, yeah, look it's I mean, it's a bit of
a I don't think I've quite seen it like this before.

Speaker 7 (58:40):
You know it it is.

Speaker 23 (58:42):
But but again, the thing is, you've got to keep thinking.
It's not like the government's going to change overnight or
they're going to roll Christopher Luxen, you know, I mean,
things are going to carry on, So you've got to
sort of weather it and you have some confidence that
what you're doing is actually the right plan.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
Now.

Speaker 7 (58:56):
The only worry is it may not be the right plan.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Well running, what were you saying, Jordan, Well there running.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
At a time.

Speaker 18 (59:03):
Nicolae Willison has got one more budget, but next year's
budget will be too late. Yeah, she really needs to know,
I would argue do a spring statement.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
All right, Well jeez, that's bold. Okay, let's take a
break and we'll come back and talk a little bit
more about what's going on with them. I don't know.
Holidays Quarters to.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Six The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, the
global leader in luxury real estate.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Right back with the Huddle, Jordan Williams Mark Sainsbury, Jordan,
are you as surprised as I am that that Queen's
down Airport's taken out that award?

Speaker 18 (59:31):
Queen sotwnds are Queen sounds probably the best airport because
it's really until they put those damn neody scanners in,
it was always very quick to get kept through.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Are you telling me that you think Queen's Downy Airport
is better than christ Your Chairport?

Speaker 7 (59:45):
Wells that equally is beautiful.

Speaker 18 (59:49):
But I mean I I just throw in a league
of their own because Aukland domestic is such a national embarrassment.

Speaker 3 (59:54):
Wellington is not that bad the fine Okay, so hold on,
you've actually admitted that they're there are three great airports.

Speaker 18 (01:00:02):
Yeah, and also Wellington the security can often take ages,
but that's because there's so many politicians damming it out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Okay, Sans so helped me out here. I'm surprised. Are
you surprised?

Speaker 23 (01:00:13):
Well, well, listen, I can remember welling to the airport
used to be a converted Tiger off factory.

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
Before they actually rebuilt, so that you always used to be.

Speaker 23 (01:00:22):
The great embarrassment of the airports. It's funny, we have
a funny relationship with the airports, isn't it. It sort
of a you know, we we sort of take them personally.
I quite like Queenstown. I think it's all right, and
I mean you get that that. I know exactly what
you mean, that little rat run. But I've always had
a reasonably good time there, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
You find those things so that when you get to
Queensland Airport there will be a horde of people at
some point, Like there will be people chaos at some point.
It's just where it is. So you could be if
you're putting your bag in. It could be when you're
going through and scan. It could be when you're getting
on the plane. But you're going to get it somewhere.

Speaker 23 (01:00:57):
Yeah, but it's it's like it does feel like sort
of a holiday airport, doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
It feels like that's why we like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
It, Yeah, because it represents a break for us. Jordan,
what do you think about this idea? One of the
ideas that the e r O has pitched for dealing
with truancy because all the nice parents are taking their
nice kids off to you know, Fiji during term time
is to stagger the school holidays throughout the country, so
we don't just get everybody go in go into Fiji
at once. What do you think of that?

Speaker 18 (01:01:22):
You kind of have that in Auckland because often the
private schools are slightly different, and I think if you've
got kids stagger between schools that would be that could
make the problem even worse. How So, well, if you've
got kids on on one holiday program and and a
kid at another school, know what.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
They were meaning is region, They mean it's regional. So
like region Auckland has its holidays, then Wellington has maybe
slightly different by a week christ.

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
When you like that, then if an event, if.

Speaker 23 (01:01:55):
You're planning a major event to a tract, you know,
school school kids could be a sport in competitions or whatever.
Now all of a sudden you've got a problem because
are not all on the holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Well, and this does happen a lot, doesn't it. You've
got into school stuff and you've got school programs that
people out would bound all that kind of carry on.
I suppose same though as a Wellingtonian. How did you
feel about Tori Farno's speech, because I thought it was
actually surprisingly gracious.

Speaker 23 (01:02:18):
Yeah, I thought it was too. I mean the initial
sort of reporting of it, so it was that there
was going to be this huge utu was coming and etcetera.
But yeah, and you've got a bit of humor and
why do you do your best performance almost on your
last day?

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Well, yeah, do you feel like you've kind of missed
out on what could have been?

Speaker 24 (01:02:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:02:37):
Look, look I do also think I mean, she got
a really really hard time, a hard time that she
was asking for. Some of it was self inflicted either,
but some of it I wouldn't have got it, you
know what I mean. I think it's it was a
lot of it was because she was you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Know, well, I don't know it. Sain Zoe, I mean
would come off at Sines. I mean, you might have
been back in the day. Back in the day, you
might have been drunk enough to not pay a bill,
and maybe you would have got a lighter run than her,
But I don't think that you would have gone out
and pinned all of you, you know, made excuses for
yourself because you suddenly had ADHD that doesn't strike me
as something you do well.

Speaker 7 (01:03:14):
You do if you end up in that situation.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I guess, Jordan, what do you think.

Speaker 18 (01:03:19):
Like I've got in trouble before because I've defended Tory
and people have jumped down my throat.

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
The thing is with with Toy, she sometimes her own
roost enemy.

Speaker 18 (01:03:29):
If she has shown grace at the end, good honor.
But I do think that running for parliament probably wouldn't
be good for New Zealand or for Tory.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Yeah, guys, listen, thank you, it's very lovely to talk
to the pair of you. Mark Sainsbury, Jordan williams our
Huddle this evening eight away from six.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
It's a terrible idea for the regions sports tournaments, cousins
et cid. I mean, it's not going to happen. It
was an idea, wasn't it. It's not to happen because, yeah,
you're right, the consequences of doing it, especially populations only
five million, right or whatever. It is Another idea from Arrow,
which I think is actually absolutely gonna fly and should fly.
Is the idea that you make no distinction between unjustified

(01:04:15):
and justified absences. So justified absences for your child is
like if you write it and you go, sorry, Johnny
sick because Johnny's got the flue. The goal that's justified
unjustified is hey, whise Johnny. Now, I don't can't be
bother telling you why Johnny's not here unjustified. The fact
of the matter is in both cases you make no distinction.
You just say Johnny's absent. And the reason that you
make no distinction is because parents need to start thinking

(01:04:35):
about all of it as being missing time. Right, So
if Johnny's missed time, he's missed time. Now some of
it he needed to miss, which means some of it
which he didn't need to miss, he now shouldn't miss
because you know what I mean. So it's just kind
of drumming it into them that absence is absence, regardless
of what you'll reason for the absences, which I quite like,
Actually weird thing is going by the way, it's four
away from six weird thing with Netball New Zealand. I

(01:04:58):
feel like at this point you almost need the CA
conspiracy theory music that dun duntan because this could be
something or it could be nothing. Anyway, somebody said to
us today with a grin. They came to us with
a grin and they were like, hey, look at this. Okay,
google Netball New Zealand Leadership team. So we did and
there was the Google link compared there's a link to
the page and they said click it and so we did.

(01:05:19):
Oh page wasn't there? Well, they grinned at us. It's
been taken down. Now. The leadership page is the page
that lists all the bosses at Netball New Zealand, including
the CEO boss Dun Duntane. Now, if you've been following
the debate right, the debate has shifted from Dame Knowles,
why is Dame Knowles going? To how badly?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
What's going on with Dame Knowles and the players has
shifted into a question about m are we going to
see the CEO lose her job because of how badly
this has been handled? Anyway, So we dropped a line
to Netball New Zealand and we were like, why have
you taken down your leadership and what's going on here?
They said, it's normal maintenance. The page will be when
it has sorted it. So it would appear that there's

(01:06:03):
some normal maintenance of the website going on that effects
only that page. Could be a very awkward coincidence, a
very awkward coincidence. But boy, did it get somebody in
our newsroom just absolutely grinning from ear to ear today,
didn't it. We'll see what happens there could be nothing,
could be something. Okay, we are going to talk straight
after the news about the fact that one in ten
houses are apparently this is in the country apparently at

(01:06:25):
risk of flooding and what that means. Also, did you
see the super moon last night? Did you? I'm looking No,
this German didn't even bother going outside. It was enormous,
Like it was one hundred percent worth going out to
look at the moon for. So if you didn't see
it last night, look at it tonight. It's rising in
the opposite place from the sun at just about half
past seven, and then it'll be up there for oh,

(01:06:47):
I reckon an hour and a bit before you know
it hits the clouds and stuff like that. Anyway, news talks,
he'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Keeping track of where the money is glowing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
The business hour with Heather due for slan and mass
for insurance investments and Qui saber, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
In good hands. News talks.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
There'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Evening coming up in the next hour. Milford Asset Management
is going to run us through the market. Reaction to
the ocr double cut and there was significant reaction to it.
The Banking Reform Coalition on whether the government will have
to drop its planned banking reforms and Gavin Gray out
of the UK for US seven past six. Now one
in ten kei we homes are at risk of getting flooded.
This is according to a new official report from the

(01:07:32):
Ministry for the Environment. It shows one hundred and eighty
billion dollars worth of assets are currently in flood prone
areas and thirteen hundred coastal homes are likely to experience
significant weather damage by the year twenty sixty. Allison Collins
is the Ministry for the Environment's Chief Science Advisor and
with us HI.

Speaker 25 (01:07:47):
Allison good evening Heather.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Where are these flood prone houses?

Speaker 25 (01:07:52):
Where are they across the country? Many in low lying
coastal communities and on flood chains, So yeah, a variety
of different places.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Is it really one and ten?

Speaker 17 (01:08:07):
I think it's what.

Speaker 25 (01:08:08):
It's two hundred and nineteen thousand residential properties, and I
think it's about two million, so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
It's about one and ten one in represents one hundred
and eighty billion dollars in assets which we cannot afford
to buy these owners out. So what do we do?

Speaker 25 (01:08:26):
So, I mean, insurers are certainly stigling higher premiums in
high risk areas. The report that we've pulled together really
is to provide the evidence about where the risk is
and how it's increasing, so that communities, insurers, others can
make informed decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yeah, so that they can basically what they can charge
you more for being in one of these areas basically.

Speaker 10 (01:08:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:08:47):
Well, I think it's about being transparent about the risks.
And then what we do with that is you know
a different question.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
So what do you think happens? Is it just a
case of the insurer's pricing it's so high that eventually
people have to sell.

Speaker 25 (01:09:00):
Well, the report itself doesn't decide on funding. It just
shows what's at risk and helps target investment so costs
are wasted and exposure doesn't keep growing. Yeah, And really
it's there to also inform future spacial planning so that
we can avoid repeating past exposure and making sure we're
building in the right places in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
The coastal homes. Are we talking about when we're talking
about these thirteen hundred coastal homes, are they the ones
low lying by the beach excuse me? Or are they
ones even up on cliffs?

Speaker 25 (01:09:28):
Mostly low lying coastal areas. But it's also you have
to think about where you're getting sea level rise, and
so there are some areas in what we are Wellington
and Eden where they are. You know, it's just the
wrong combination effect is really so you're getting subsidence, sea
level rise, and it's bringing all those things together.

Speaker 9 (01:09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Do you think people are awake enough to these risks
when they're buying property.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
I'm not sure really.

Speaker 25 (01:09:57):
I mean I bought my property ten or fifteen years ago.
I did look at the Limb report. That's one of
the reasons why we need good accessible evidence and information
so that people can make an informed decision when they're
buying property.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Yeah, fair enough. Hey, thank you very much, Allison. I
really appreciate Allison Collins, the Ministry for the Environment's Chief
science Advisor. I mean, you think about the just think
about that number, one hundred and eighty billion dollars, right,
So put just for a second. Think about yourself here.
If you've got one of these. If let's say you go,
you buy yourself a nice who doesn't want a beach
house right by the beach, you know, open the doors
in the morning, get your cup of coffee, look at

(01:10:34):
the beach. Oh yeah, you run out for a little
swim house. Isn't that just the dream? Okay, you've now
sunk two million. Frankly, if you're sinking only two million,
well done you. Let's say you're sinking five million. You're
sinking five million. What's going to happen to you? Because
it's all adding up to one hundred and eighty billion
dollars and we cannot afford to buy everybody out, So
what do we do? So just I don't know, I

(01:10:54):
don't know. It's a conundrum, isn't it. It's a conundrum
of the time. Turns out yesterday when we said that
the money for Adrian Or was not really a restraint
of trade but actually more of a shut up clause,
we were right. No surprise, the exit deal has been
it would appear proactively released and it says the Reserve Bank,
including its board and its individual members, will not disparage

(01:11:17):
mister Orr and mister Or will not disparage the Reserve Bank,
It's board, individual members of the board, the Treasury, the
Minister of Finance, or the government generally. So basically, I mean,
I don't know about you. I have a restraint of
trade right in my contract. I am not paid for
my restraint to trade. I am simply required to go

(01:11:39):
away and not work. So you don't actually have to
pay Adrian to not do his job. It's kind of
built into how much he's paid already. I would have
thought the fact that there is money, I mean, I
think you can see it in the way that it's structured.
And generally what happens is if you get paid out
the end of a job, right which many of us
will have been done by now, where you get made
redundant or whatever, and then they pay out, you get

(01:11:59):
paid out immediately, and they're like, go away, I never
want to hear from you again. That kind of thing.
When you have a dollar that is hattler or in
this case four hundred and sixteen thousand dollars that's hanging
on a date for you to be a good boy
until that date, and then you get paid. That is
basically designed to keep you quiet, isn't it? But we
can see this for what it is, can't we is
it is a shut up clause. It's don't say anything

(01:12:20):
about anyway. Jordan Williams of the Taxpace Union, who actually
I should have talked to you about this when he
was on before, said this is a classic gag agreement
designed to protect the reputations of the elite and shun
public scrutiny. There you go. Twelve past six.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
It's the Heather Duper see Allen Drive Full Show podcast
on my Heart Radio empowered by news dog Zebbi.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
Heather, have you looked at the exchange rates since the
OCR announcement? Meaning fuel and everything which is important will
be more expensive for Baz. Thank you very much for
bringing us to this right now. It's quarter past six
and Remi Morgan Milford Asset Management is with us. Hi,
remy Hi, Heather. How did the market react to that decision? Today?

Speaker 24 (01:12:58):
We saw markets readjusting their interest rate expectations lower in
response to that fifty basis point cut, and that was
because it wasn't fully priced in. We saw market expectations
for the November decision adjusting to fully price another twenty
five basis point cut, we saw wholesale swap rates offered lower. Notably,
that key two year rate was down around seven basis

(01:13:21):
points shortly after the release. And the other key call
out was that INZA dollar, which we can further immediately
dropping around one percent against the US dollar.

Speaker 10 (01:13:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
What about the INSIDEX have we seen any major moves there?

Speaker 21 (01:13:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:13:33):
So over the last week leading into today, the INSIDEX
moved sharply upwards and finally above record highs. Again, it's
only taken about four years, and that was likely in
anticipation of more rate cuts to come following that week
GDP print that we had the other week. Some notable
moves and share prices that are up around ten percent
over the past week are in cyclical retail companies like

(01:13:57):
sky City and Katman, do brands, housing linked retirement companies
Ryman and Somerset, and real estate companies, and that larger
fifty basis point cut today further supported moves higher. We
saw the index closing zero point two five percent on
the day, marking a rally of over two percent the
past week and closing on a fresh new high.

Speaker 3 (01:14:19):
How important do you think was the detail that the
Reserve Bank released for the market.

Speaker 24 (01:14:23):
It was just a policy announcement this time, and not
a full statement with a new set of Reserve Bank
forecast as we had back in August, And because it
wasn't fully clear to the market which way the RBNZ
would go, that made both the decision and the signals
that the release sent to the market even more important. Now,
the messaging signaled openness to cut further, and I think

(01:14:44):
that supported that market moved lower in wholesale interest rates,
which helps to give that intended transmission effect.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Okay, where do we go from here?

Speaker 24 (01:14:53):
For companies in the insedex particularly those more interest rates
sensitive and consumer focused companies, there might be some further
optimism to come as those lower interest rates continue to
transmit through the economy. But it is important to remember
that today's market reactions are a point in time reaction
and developments in the data and the economy can see

(01:15:14):
markets move potentially either way.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
In response, Remy, thanks very much, appreciate it. Remy Morgan,
Milford Asset Management. It's eighteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Six ever due for Celan Heather.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
If you look at the district plan of hut City Council,
you'll see that the vast majority of properties on the
valley floor in many areas of the hills are marked
as flood prone. And this is despite the fact that
they've never flooded in one hundred and fifty years. It's
all about councils trying to mitigate any responsibility rather than
actual risks, which may be the case Petter, But the
trouble that's going to happen here may well be right.
I mean, look, if you say to me, somebody says

(01:15:45):
that this is that the whole world is going to flood.
I think the chances art's not going to flood. I
think we've lived long enough to know that an existential
crisis might not really be an existential crisis. However, the
trouble with these maps is now you ensure is going
to look at it. Now they're going to price adjust
your risk premium. And that's a pain, isn't it. That's
gonna that's gonna get pricey, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:16:05):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
Listen about this rebel league that obviously the rugby unions
around the world are freaking out about, I think and
everybody has gone with the idea. And you would have
heard say Zoe said it before, right the Golden rule
is that the gold rules. Here's a counter argument to that.
So it's been reported by the Sydney Morning Herald today
that over in Ossie Pat Cummins and Travis Head, who

(01:16:28):
are that what the captain and the deputy captain of
their their cricket team. Both of these guys were offered
nearly ten million dollars a year to each quit Australian
cricket and then go play an overseas T twenty franchise
leagues full time, which would have in both cases been
a really significant pay rise for each of them. Generally,
Ossie players apparently even you know, and this is the
ones at the top, will earn about one point five

(01:16:50):
million dollars a year from their national contracts. Cummins gets
a bit more, he gets about three million because you
put his captaincy stipend into account and so on. But
even for him paid the most three million to ten
million dollars must have been incredibly tempting. Both of them
said no, and they said no because they are so
committed to the national team. Now, I'm not naive and

(01:17:10):
I wouldn't be surprised if they went back to the
cricket guys over there and they were like, this is
what we've been offered. Can you pay us more? And
got a bit more, you know, deuce that lemon, just
a little bit more. That wouldn't surprise me. But there's
no way that Australian cricket closed the gap between three
million and ten million, you know what I mean. So
there is an element of wanting to play for your
country anyway. So even though the Rugby League the Rebel

(01:17:30):
League has managed to sign up apparently two hundred players
around the world, including apparently Roger Tui Vasashek, who is
being reported in Australia as absolutely definitely going to go
and play for the Saudi League. Even though they've managed
to get that many, there will still be a lot
of players who want to wear the black jersey or
the gold jersey or the green jersey or whatever it is.
So money doesn't always rule, does it. Six twenty Hey,

(01:17:51):
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win for New Zealand, ever do for ze Islands. Heather,
I've seen this report and it's incredibly inaccurate. It states

(01:18:58):
that app this is the flood prone. It states that
our property is in a floodplain. We're thirty meters above
the Gray River. Now, if that river comes up thirty meters,
the west coast is going to be wiped out. Basically,
it's very very inaccurate. Ben, thank you for that. I
feel like a lot of people will believe the thirty
meters that's an ext oftential crisis. As now, what have
I said to you in the past about weird things

(01:19:19):
happening in Dunedin. I've got another case of weird things
happening in Dunedin, this time road rage that is just wild.
So what happened is yesterday in the City's CBD at
about ten to one in the afternoon, right, So it's
like at the end of lunchtime, a twenty four year
old driver stops at the red light at Queen's Garden

(01:19:42):
and toats at the vehicle in front of her because
the lights had changed. An old mate in the car
in front hadn't gone off, which is just like, guys,
it's a reasonable thing to's polite. I'm assuming she she
might have gone, but you never know. I mean, there's
a difference in tone, right Anyway, the one in the
car ahead is a forty one year old woman, so
we've got ladies here. So The forty one year old
woman then starts driving like a nut. She drives slowly,

(01:20:06):
then she speeds up, drives slowly, then she speeds up,
then she gestures. Then she won't let the driver pass
it just being a complete like you know, you're not
proud of that behavior, are you, forty one year old lady.
So both vehicles then pull over at Highgate because they've
both had a guts full and they think we're gonna
take this to the next level. They pull over at Highgate.
The older woman gets out of This is where it
gets weird. The older woman gets out of her vehicle
starts assaulting the twenty four year old victim, punches her

(01:20:28):
multiple times, throws her to the ground, pulls her hair,
and then kicks her as well. No surprise, the older
woman has been arrested by the police in charge with
with assault with intent to injure. She's been bailed to
appear in court next week. The victim was left shaken
from the incident, and weird things like really weirdly disproportionate
things happen in Dunedin. We're starting a file on this
six twenty six.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Psycho Killer by the Talking Heads, not for the forty
one year old woman, but you know, if the shoe fits.
It's about a new movie, one you need to put
on your radar, this time slightly like a kid's movie,
but possibly not. It's It's okay hit. Do you remember
Twitts by Roll Daal? So Netflix are doing an animated
adaptation of Twits by Roll dal And if you don't

(01:21:19):
know which one I'm talking about, it's the one where
as the dirty gross couple who abuse a family of
monkeys in the keep in the backyard. It's you know,
classic kiddy stuff. The trailers just come out.

Speaker 26 (01:21:27):
What kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
Story is this? Emotionally complex? You will tack all the
condult of life with high brow themes I Need You
and low brow comedy.

Speaker 23 (01:21:39):
Let me show you my diarrhea.

Speaker 5 (01:21:43):
Diorama.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
What So I'm excited about it because, like anybody of
my age, I love Roll Dahl. Who doesn't. They've managed
to rope in Emilia Clark from Game of Thrones and
also Natalie Portman, so that's not bad. David Byr from
Talking Heads is going to be making the new original
comedy Songs and I and he's doing it with Hayley

(01:22:06):
from the band Paramore. So I'm a little iffy on
the music because you know, talking heads, hidden miss. You know,
Paramore always a miss. So that's a bit kind of
h for me. But hey, it's roll Dahal, it's the
Twits and it's going to be available to watch in
just over a week on Netflix on October seventeen. How
good is that? I just pump that up a little bit.

(01:22:29):
I'm not even sure that this was a hit.

Speaker 7 (01:22:32):
You like, technically it was a hit, but.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Or is it a miss? Hither the R three sixty
will be the final resting for the aging rugby stars.
It'll be like a seniors tournament. You're wrong, Roger to I.
Vasashek is not an aging rugby star. He still fit
and you still want to watch it?

Speaker 10 (01:22:49):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:22:50):
You're going to talk about the banking legislation next stand by.
Looks like New Zealand First is going to handbreak the
government's plans. There newstalksz B.

Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
Three moment.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
The Business Hour where the head dup c Allen and
mas for insurance Investments and Huy Saber and you're in
good hands news talks b.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Where you're coming on them? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
We have Gavin Gray out of the UK with us
in ten minutes time. Right now it's twenty four away
from seven. Ask Scot Simpson's banking reforms in Trouble's the
question that a lot of people are asking right now
because yesterday ASB settled a class action claim against the
bank for one hundred and thirty five million dollars. The
class action still stands against A and Z. They are
going to fight it and they are the only bank
therefore that is in need of this retrospective bailout. Through

(01:23:50):
the changes in the Triple CFA, there is now a
suggestion it's not going to happen because New Zealand first
might be a handbreak. Kent Dunstan Dustin rather is the
Banking Reform Coalition convener and with us hih keent.

Speaker 27 (01:24:02):
Evening hither, how are you very well?

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
Thank you Dad? Does it look to you like ASB
may have settled here because they can see the law
change is not coming.

Speaker 27 (01:24:09):
Well, I mean you'd have to look at it from
the point of view of the bank and say, you know,
they're not in the business of handing out one hundred
and thirty five million dollars for the fun of it.
If there was a law change coming that was going
to get them off the hoot, then surely they'd wait
for that. So I think, you know, to the untutored observer,
we'd have to say that the odds that they're going

(01:24:29):
to get the legislation that they wanted through Minister Simpson
look pretty remote. And you know, when they weigh up
the odds, they've decided that paying up now is better
than fighting it out in court in much And.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
So what is your vibe are you hearing that New
Zealand First is the problem They're going to kill this
this law change.

Speaker 27 (01:24:48):
Well, I think it was pretty apparent from when the
bill went to Select Committee that New Zealand First were
pretty skeptical, right But because and if you look at
the bill, it really doesn't do that much other than
provide this retrospective law change. And no matter how we
slice and dicee that it's pretty toxic to making to
be making retrospective law changes that you know, benefit these

(01:25:11):
large banks. After all, AMZ hasn't yet settled. It would
be the only bank that is going to get the
benefit from this law change. We're talking about the largest
bank in the country that had a profit of more
than two billion dollars you know, last year. If anyone
needs a handout, it sure as an am Z.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Now, so I'm taking it from the way that you've
just answered that question that you're not a huge fan
of this.

Speaker 27 (01:25:35):
Well, you know, I don't think that you know, a
retrospective law change is never good, right, I mean, it
undermines the rule of law. And we are talking about
a case that was before the courts, and after all,
you know, the legislation would only affect cases between twenty
fifteen and twenty nineteen because the law changed after twenty nineteen,

(01:25:55):
and that means that these things aren't going to come
around again. So it looked pretty clear that really it
was for the benefit of and am Z. And there's
a lot of hand waving about it, but fundamentally it
was a bad law and we shouldn't underestimate the degree
to which this is a huge political loss to the
Bankers Association. I mean, they have a compliant minister in

(01:26:16):
the former Minister Simpson. They seem to have more lobbyists
running around Willington Flees on a dog and yet all
armed with excess cards. Yet yet it seems that they
can't get this bill across the line. Because if they
could get the bill across the line, well why did
ASB need to write a check for one hundred and
thirty five million?

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Now, well, they are coming up against equally experienced lobbyists,
aren't they.

Speaker 27 (01:26:39):
Well I'm not sure there's actually that many lobbyists on
the side of consumers running around Parliament. So you know,
I really think this is a victory for common sense
and I think that there is a bit of a
shout out to New Zealand first on this one, because
without one of the coalition partners standing against it, surely
this would have just proceeded through Select Committee and into

(01:26:59):
law and the banks would be off the hooks.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
So is here not an argument to be made, though,
Kent that this is a chancing of the arm by
the lawyer who's doing this, because if the law has
been changed, right, because it was obviously not a great
great piece of legislation, he's seen an opportunity.

Speaker 27 (01:27:17):
Well yeah, look, this is always the balancing, isn't it.
And I do think Scott Russell, you know, the lawyer
who's been leading this irrespective of the merits of this
particular case, has really done the country a bit of
a service because we do not have any enabling legislation
for these class actions in New Zealand. And so, as
he points out, you know, he's spent the last four

(01:27:39):
years fighting about how this process is going to work.
So they've been talking about the process rather than the
merits of the case itself. And this is the first
time really this has succeeded. And so what he's done
is is opened the door for groups of consumers to
finally be able to hold large corporates, particularly large multinational

(01:28:00):
to account in the courts. And it's hard to see
that as a bad thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Kent too, Do you think, though, let's talk about the
merits of the case really quickly and the available time
that I have. Do you think, though, it is fair
that the banks are being lumped with a payout as
big as this for what they have done.

Speaker 27 (01:28:15):
Well, you know their banks, so yes, I do. In
the seas that they have all of the money in
the world. They know, you know, they made a mistake.
And let's face it, who doesn't think that AMZ can't
afford a new computer to get this kind of stuff.

Speaker 18 (01:28:29):
Right.

Speaker 27 (01:28:29):
They have all the money in the world. They can
hire as many staff as they need, they can buy
all of the IT systems that have ever been created.
And if they still manage to get it wrong, we'll
surely they should be on the hook for that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Kent, it's good to talk to you. Thanks very much,
appreciate your time, mate, Kent Dustin, Banking Reform Coalition convenor,
No Mercy from Kent, nineteen away from seven Ever, I honestly,
I think I just have to give up on the
supermoon stuff because I just keep on stuffing this up hither.
I'm sorry to be that guy, but read the moon.
The moon is not going to be rising at half
past seven tonight, like you said, only applied last night.

(01:29:01):
Each day the moon rises approximately eighty minutes later than
the previous day. It's all about the orbit. Lord. Tonight,
it's going to rise between eight forty in the north
and nine to fifty in in a cargo. Cheers Erran
So Aaron, thank you. But also do you not find
that fascinating that the difference between the north and the
south is like an hour ten Just I suppose we

(01:29:22):
have a long country. It's a very long country when
you think about it. But yeah, an hour ten so
I could call it from up nor a moon's rising
and or take an hour ten before. Anyway, you understand
how time works. Okay, So have you read if you've
been following what's going on with the Mildi Party, And
I think you should because Barry Sober, who's been around
for a very long time and has watched politics for
a long time, said today this looks like a party

(01:29:45):
that is falling apart, so keep an eye on it.
If you're interested. You should read Audrey Young's piece which
is in the Herald today, which goes some way to
explaining a little bit of what is going on here. Interesting,
she says, the reason that there's been this breakdown between
Muddy Men or Cuppa Kinghey, who was the whip and
then had the whip taken off her and then her son,
who was running the protest movement aligned to the party,

(01:30:06):
has now broken away. The reason that she lost her job,
says Audrey, is for a couple of reasons which we
hadn't known about before. Number One, she went in June
on an interparliamentary trip to Japan's parliament with Brownlee and
a whole bunch of other MPs, and the Maori Party
was cross with her because they thought that that was
a luxury that was inconsistent with the party's co Pappa.

(01:30:27):
The second reason that she's got in trouble with the
party is that some party members in the regions were
recently sounded out about the possibility of Kappa Kingy becoming
a future leader, and that found its way back to
the leadership group. Anyway, if you then follow what happens next,
we find out, which is she has her job taken
off for everybody's gone quiet and they're all fighting with
each other. And then yesterday there are all these rumors

(01:30:49):
going around online about Maria men or Cuppa Kingy blowing
her electric budget by like a lot, a lot lot,
and that somehow finds its way into into the public sphere.
She then in that TVNZ interview says, well, it can
only have come from the party. The parties leaked against me,
so you know, piece all the dots together and let's
see how this plays out. Interestingly, they were at Parliament

(01:31:11):
today but you know, we've got nothing. I don't know
what happened. Then no one appears to have asked them
any questions. We'll see if we can get We've got
a bit of time. We'll see if we can find
out what happened seventeen away from seven croating.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
The numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
It's Heather dupic Ellen with the Business Hour and MAS
for Insurance Investments.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
And Quie Saber, you're in good hands. News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
Call me efficient or call me efficient. But I've got
the answer for you. Actually, I just called one of
our awesome, awesome press gallery journos. So what happened today
is that the Maori Party, which has become apparently the
pattern of behavior, did not walk across the bridge. Now,
if you know how politics works, right, that walking across
the bridge bit is where they come to the black
and white tiles dinging, and the politicians are answering the

(01:31:54):
ding ding ding, and the parliamentary bewels are going off
that thing as they walk into the house. There are
ways to get into the house, into the debating chamber
without having to go across there and come across the media.
So if you really want to avoid the media, you
can do it. And this is what they've taken to
doing because they don't have to speak to you, and
if they do, apparently the last time they did come
across was the time when was it Aori just spoke

(01:32:16):
to at el anyway, so that happened tomorrow they're doing tomorrow.
We have to keep an eye out because tomorrow they're
doing the party reset. So they were I'm not sure
as to whether the media were going to be allowed
to go to the party reset or not, but media
are now not definitely not allowed to go to the
party reset, and they're going to do a live stream.
So now you know what the Germans doing at four

(01:32:36):
point thirty with her day, the rest of us are
listening to radio, to news talk, said b and she
is going to be listening to the Maori Party for
all of her sins and trying to figure out what's
going on. And I'm not entirely sure. I suspect given
they're doing a reset, given all the drama with Kappa
Kingie and Kapa Kingi's son and Taku, the Ferris and
everything that's going on, I think they may have to
address a little bit of that. Anyway, that'll be interesting

(01:32:58):
tomorrow twelve away from seven downy UK correspondents with that,
Hello Gail, Hello, there, Gail. The spy case and the
government's involvement is fascinating. Run me through it.

Speaker 26 (01:33:09):
Oh, it's been rumbling on for some time. So it's
now been revealed that the case against two men, a
teacher and a parliamentary researcher, accused of spying for China
collapsed because the Director of Public Prosecutions, which is the
UK's most senior prosecutor, couldn't get any evidence from the government.

(01:33:31):
He said there was evidence to prosecute when the case
was originally brought last April. However, and precedent has been
set by another spying case which has raised the threshold
for a conviction. So under the last government, their assessment
of China was that it was an epoch defining challenge

(01:33:53):
of a country, but nothing more. To be able to
get a case for spying now you have to have
evidence which represents China as a threat to national security
at the time of the alleged defenses, which the previous government,

(01:34:13):
which is when these alleged defenses took place, and both
men deny they deny the charges that wasn't available. Therefore
case thrown out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
That's it, well can they not?

Speaker 10 (01:34:24):
Though?

Speaker 23 (01:34:24):
This?

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
So does it have to they have been at the time,
like concurrent with the alleged spying, the government had to
have seen China as as some sort of a national
security threat or can they now declare them the national
security threat thereby allowing them to take the spying case.

Speaker 26 (01:34:40):
No, the Prime ministers, the Kistoma has said that's just
not possible. It has to be at the time, and
of course he's a lawyer and that's what's been decided.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Yeah, he would know. Okay, what's going on with this
company that's been housing the asylum seekers.

Speaker 26 (01:34:55):
Yeah, as you know asylum seekers, and the housing asylum
seekers has caused an up brought here with protests outside
asylum seeking hotels. And this is a company called Clear
Springs Ready Homes, which supports around thirty thousand asylum seekers
both in England and Wales, and its subcontracts to hotels
for many of the asylum seekers to provide accommodation for

(01:35:18):
about half that number. It began its contract under the
previous government in twenty nineteen, and it's now been revealed
that over the past five years they've made three hundred
and sixty million dollars in profit, despite claims of terrible
conditions at the hotel it uses, I mean charities, have

(01:35:39):
you know publicly shown inedible food, miserable conditions that people
are living in. However, it's one of three companies which
has a ten year contract with the Home Office to
provide accommodation for asylum seekers and the contracts is expected
to be over a ten year period fourteen billion dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Wow, hey, but it's carry on.

Speaker 26 (01:36:04):
Sorry, I was just going to say I was shocked
at that figure. But the fee is not thought to be.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Excessive, right, well, the size of the I suppose what
you consider as big as as different to what I've considered.
Have you put that little parrot dog away, by the way.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
Oh, yes I have.

Speaker 26 (01:36:21):
I've put her far far off. That doesn't mean she's
gone to a farm. She's actually just sat in the
car outside.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Outside, Gail like you've you've you've had to remove the
dog from the inside of the house. Yes, because she
is so yippy. She's a jack Russell.

Speaker 26 (01:36:41):
Let me say so, anyone who's ever owned a Jack Russell?
Or no, they're very, very determined. So it was either
five minutes outside in her very comfortable seat in the car,
or the doors being pulled off the hinges.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
Yes, possibly that, or just saying to news Talks Drive, no,
I can't I can't handle it now fair enough, Hey, Gail,
thank you so much as always, will talk to you
again in a couple of days. Gale Downey in for
Gavin Gray. Oh did you know? I didn't know this
until day? Did you know that? The Americans don't call
cludo cludo? They call it They just call it clue
because Cludo is a portmanteau of Clue and Ludo, and

(01:37:17):
Ludo is another board game, right, so they've they played
on Will's Clever, but the Americans don't have Ludo, so
they ain't got no idea. They are just so confused
about what's going on. So anyway, the reason I'm telling
you this is because it's coming to Netflix. They're turning
it into a game show and they're gonna have contestants
complete mental and physical tasks while solving clues. And also
they were already doing the same thing with Monopoly. So

(01:37:37):
if you love your board games, who have you got
the time coming to you? Seven away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
Okay, this is going to be legit the last time
I talk about the supermoon on this show, because even
when I was trying to explain, like clear up the
pres every single time I've mentioned it, I've stuffed it up.
And then when I was trying to clear up the
previous stuff, and then it goes back to yesterday, was
stuffing it up yesterday. And then I tried to clear
up the previous stuff up, and I stuffed that up too.
Because now I've got a text from Murray saying, hither,

(01:38:13):
it's actually not really how far south in the cargols,
it's actually how far sweety, he says, which I think
is deserved. In this case, I am sweety. In this
case it is actually how far west it is, which
is further than most people think. So thanks Murray Love,
because I did deserve that.

Speaker 9 (01:38:29):
Lord.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Anyway, listen, this is the thing that I am finding
the most fascinating, Like this actually makes me giggle with
how stupid it is. Have you seen the gunless James
Bond posters? Have you seen them? So what happened was
like something stupid like James Bond Day on Sunday or
something and Amazon they released they for their Prime video
streaming site. They released all these posters of James Bond,

(01:38:51):
but they're the old posters that we know, like the
Doctor No poster where Sean Connery, you know the one,
it's like it's famous. He's got his arms crossed, he's
wearing a little polo shit, got his arms crossed and
in the crook of one arm he's got in his hand,
he's got a gun and he's leaning it. He's sort
of resting it into the crease of his elbow. Well
he's still doing that, but they photo shot the gun out,
so he's just posing really weirdly with his arms crossed.

(01:39:13):
And then of course there's the poster that is it
features Pierce Brosnan from GoldenEye, and he's got on a
white shirt with a black waistcoat and he's sort of
like slightly slightly looking kind of skew at the camera
and in his he's got his hand up at his chin.
He's got really long gun coming out of his hand. No,
the gun's gone, his hand's just there anyway. So they've

(01:39:34):
got in trouble for that, because that's stupid. That's dumb.
I don't hate I mean, I don't you know guns.
I don't want to be shot by a gun, but
I don't hate looking at guns. Anyway. They've been declared
to be woke. They've now taken it. They've taken all
the posters down as they should. Libby to take.

Speaker 28 (01:39:52):
On that, I'll get you going, okay. Why Well, Dolly
had to recently postpone her Las Vegas resident, which was
very sad. I'm sure she was very sad about it.
But her sister's been on the social saying we need
to be praying for Dolly, which obviously sent me a
little bit like, oh gosh, what's happening? But Dolly said
she's okay, she just needs some rest.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Oh back, oh, host sister just set up to set
the panic for no reason.

Speaker 28 (01:40:16):
Basically, it quickly in the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Shut up sister, Oh thank you for playing. Donnie just
woke us up, didn't it. We're getting a bit slow
there for a minute, not after Libby blasted the music.
Thanks Libby, he will see you tomorrow. Have a nice
evening in your high heel books and your pony teens.
I'll get down like a cavern't.

Speaker 18 (01:40:35):
Writing here looking like that?

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Why to come in here?

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
Looking like that when you get stuck to rap again
at Don Sack?

Speaker 10 (01:40:42):
Why are you all us given?

Speaker 2 (01:40:44):
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