Full Show Podcast: 11 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spin spins to find the real story. Ory,
It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplicy Ellen Drive with one
New Zealand let's get connected and news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
That'd be good.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Afternoon Friday. It is six after four, coming up on
the pro on the program tonight, Wellington, the Meurill Race.
Ray Chung is his campaign over tonight, claims anti Semitism
on the rise across the country. The sports Huddle with
Caleb Park out for that second all Blacks test the
IKEA boss with five hundred jobs to fill and applications.

(00:36):
They had fifteen thousand applicants. That number now a lot more.
Will tell you how many more our Asia Business correspondent
and we'll go to the UK with Gavin.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Gray Brian Bridge.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
So Wellington's Mall Race was supposed to get boring from
here on out. It was supposed to get really lame.
Tory Faro came in, of course, like a wrecking ball.
Her tipsy Courtney Place. Wilwind took the capitol by storm.
It was sallacious, it was juicy, it was bizarre. It
captivated the country. There was the don't you know who
I Am? There was the dining and dashing at restaurant bills.

(01:12):
This was a movie script worthy of production. Across the
road in miramar As, stories about late night incidents and
missed council meetings flooded the newspapers. Wellington's streets were flooding, literally,
the broken and leaky pipes cracked out of the ground,
almost like the city's infrastructure was creaking and moaning on
behalf of all Wellingtonians. The rates rises, the airport's sales,

(01:36):
the broken promises, the cycle ways, still no second tunnel
through Mount vic by the way. But then it all
came to a head. Andrew Little entered, the chat Tory
pools out and from here on in it was meant
to get boring. You know, when you're watching a movie
and it reaches the climax and the world is saved
by the superhero. Everything's a little shaken up, but the

(01:57):
main cast is safe and happy ever after. But then
there's basically no more plot, you know, no more juicy stuff.
The plot basically ends well Wellington, You're getting a sequel
within the original. Meryl candidate Ray Chung sent his colleagues
an email regaling them with a story a friend told
him while he was out walking his dog In it,

(02:19):
He says Tory Farno had drug fueled tempestuous sex with
a bunch of young guys. He also claims he was
told that she had pendulous soft breasts. It's starting to
smell a little bit like Ontario in Canada. Remember that
the mayor who was accused of smoking crack. I mean,
just scandal, just scandal through an election campaign, a local

(02:42):
election campaign. To get real for a minute. Two things.
One Tory denies the story completely and utterly rejects it. Two.
Ray sent this to three fellow counselors on their personal
email addresses, so it was a private email, he claims.
And Ray reckons that one of those people has leaked
it to Tory, who has leaked it to the press.

(03:05):
So then you start to wonder, is one of Ray's
former fellow council mates now turning on him, perhaps for
political reasons. I don't know the answer to that question.
All I really know is that Wellington, you need some
popcorn because you're in for one hell of a tempestuous
election campaign. Rayan BRIDGEB nineteen nine two is the number

(03:29):
to text it just gone ten after four. The Victoria
University of Wellington Students Association VIEWSER turning some heads with
their new campaign today, No work, Shiite pay, Why Stay
is the slogan for their Where's the Work campaign. The
group are hoping to draw attention to the record number
of students ditching the country for overseas. Aiden Donahue is

(03:51):
the Engagement Vice President at VIEWSER. Hi Aiden, Hello, So
why do you think these students are leaving well?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
In our opinion, I think it's just the rational decision
for any student when they see such a lack of
opportunities within the country. If they can see that it's
quite easy to move to another country, say Australia, it's
got better pay, better opportunities, and they've already seen all
of New Zealand all their life, why would they stay?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
What's the difference in graduate pay starting rates between the countries.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I don't have that off the cuff, but looking on
sites like Possible, you can see the rates are around
about ten thousand dollars difference, and including the currency difference,
it's just not very competitive with New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
So what do you want done about that?

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
So, all about this campaign is all about trying to
pressure both the public and private to see that there's
a clear lack of supply for this huge demand we're
seeing and just fill those gaps we've seen within the
public sector. There's been pressured within house to lower their
roles offered, and we really want to encourage private to

(05:02):
pick up it so that can keep KII talent. Kewi.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
You want private businesses to hire graduates, but you mean
you can't just hire graduates to do nothing, can you?

Speaker 2 (05:11):
No?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Exactly, we want to and if there isn't enough work there,
it's just a clear something that other places will provide
that work. And so it's either we let these people
go and of which we probably will not see them
again gathering from our wages, or we keep them in
house and try and expand within New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
A lot of industry in Australia that keeps their unemployment
rate at the lower rate than nows. I think ours
is five point one. There's is four point one at
the moment unemployment. But you know they've got a lot
of mineral extraction, that sort of thing. You're bey on
board for more of that that's graduate jobs.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Look, we're not opposed to any graduate opportunity for any
of our students because Ultimately, the decision to take that
job lies within the individual. We just want to see
that those opportunities be present in the first place.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
So it's not like you're waiving a woke flag here saying, oh,
we won't take these jobs, we won't take fossil fuel jobs.
You're saying, actually, you want an economy that's strong enough
that has decent jobs for graduates to go into so
they stay in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Exactly couldn't have said it better ourselves.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, what's the harm in that? So who have you
written to and what's the response you're getting.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
So we haven't written so much that the action on
Monday was us posing the question first, and we really
want to put the ball and within their court about
what they're going to do with that. We can see
the stats that people are leaving and so it's really
up to policymakers and employers to really to fix that
if they want to have a strong workforce to toy from.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, okay, great, I love it because we need I'm glad. Look,
I used to know a thing or two about views
that and there was a lot of people in there
who would not have said things that you've just said.
To me they were basically they were basically communists didn't
really want private enterprise. This was a long time ago.
But yeah, no, a strong economy means strong jobs and

(07:07):
that means places for your graduates to go to. Yeah, exactly,
good on you, Aiden Donahue, Engagement vice president at Viesa
in Wellington. Students graduating path to work Work's not there?
Can you blame them? Fourteen after four yam Bridge. So
Starmer has accepted an invitation Trump said, come and play
golf with me in Scotland. Now I'm just looking at

(07:30):
Keir Starmer and I'm thinking that guy cannot play golf.
He just doesn't look like he's ever swung a club anyway.
He's going to go and play because, of course Trump's
got a golf club in Scotland and he's going there
next month. And they've just signed that trade deal together
last month, of course on the sidelines of the G seven.
So a lot of reasons why you'd want to catch up.

(07:51):
Still a lot to finesse with that trade deal. So
Starmer has accepted the invitation to play at golf, whether
he can actually play or not. Where wait and see.
Fourteen minutes after four year on News Talks EBB and
well few changes, just a couple to the French team
for the test tomorrow night and now Caleb Clark out
with injury Jason Pine.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Next it's the Heather Duper See Allan Drive Full show
podcast on iHeartRadio powered My News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
News Talks VB. It is seventeen minutes after four Ryan.
Has anyone done a survey? This is on jobs and
the Kiwi's fleeing for Australia? Has anyone done a survey
of Kiwis who have left New Zealand to ask what
the actual reasons are that they're living in the country.
It might not just be the money and the lifestyle.
If not the money in the last style, what would
it be? That would be my only question? But bear

(08:42):
one nine two nine two the number to text Jason
Pine with us Week in Sport host. Hey, Jason, geto Ryan,
Good to have you on the show. So what's happening
to caled Clark is out?

Speaker 6 (08:52):
I have only just picked up on that news. I've
been at a charity lunch today. I've just turned my
phone dock on to speak to your good self. So
aileb Clark has been ruled out.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Has he with injury? Yeah, so this has only just
happened in the last of a half hour hour, so
another I suppose another spanner in the works. But lots
of changes already from not just Outside. You know, we
had the three yesterday, but the French too, quite a
few changes.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
Indeed, and they had a number of debutants to start
with in Duned and five in the starting fifteen, three
off the bench and other four debutants tomorrow. I just
wonder what last week will do to France. I feel
like I could go one of two ways. Either they
get a lot of confidence and a lot of motivation
thinking hey, we actually got close to the All Blacks,
we could beat them in Wellington. Or do they look

(09:38):
back and say, man, that was a missed opportunity. That
was our best chance on this tour of beating them,
and now we're really going to be up against it
in Wellington. I can report Ryan, I've come sort of
close to outside. But it's absolutely pouring down in Wellington
at the moment, which won't come as any surprise to
people who are familiar with the place. But whether that
plays a part tomorrow night, you'd have to think that
it might no roof of course here in Wellington, so yeah,

(09:59):
quite intriguing prospect.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, will be what about the wind.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
Well it seems to swirl here, you know, look like
all joking aside. When you put a kick up in
toned it it's like kicking a ball up inside. Because
you are inside here in Wellington can go anywherewhere, So
the wind, the rain, it is another little layer of complication.
Obviously a few of the few of the All Blacks

(10:25):
boys know it pretty well, having played here for either
the Hurricanes or one of the other Super rugby teams,
all for the All Blacks. But yeah, look at some
it's just another little layer of complexity.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Tomorrow night now Wimbledon Women's final is set and men's
semi finals happening overnight.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Yeah, men's semi finals tonight are fascinating. Yanixon and Novak Djokovic.
Tonight now, Jokovic looked like he injured himself in his
quarter final win. Whether he's going to be okay or not,
not too sure. But even if he is, Jarnicksoner just
looks imperious at the moment. Carlos Alkarez on the other
side against Taylor Fritz, it feels like el Karez. So
we're headed for another titanic battle. I think between the

(11:02):
top two seeds. We had it at the French Open,
that incredible game a month or so ago. I reckon
we're headed for the same thing on the grass at
Wimbledon early hours on Monday morning, New Zealand Time, Yllicks
and a carlis el Karez. I think you're on a
collision course again.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Good to have you on the show is always Piney.
That is Jason pine Weekend Sports host the game here
on news Talks. There'd b tomorrow night twenty after four
lots of texts coming in on the Australians. If you
are one of those people who has moved to Australia
flowing the coup and returned here, we'd love to know
what brought you back. I mean to me, this is

(11:36):
always just a basic economics issue. If their economy is
doing well, we'll drag them that. It's like a magnet.
They'll be dragged that way. If our economy is doing well,
will they'll be dragged back this way. People come home
to have babies, all that kind of stuff, But apart
from that, it's basically the economic magnet that gets us
across the Tasman. Nine two ninety two is the number.

(11:56):
Text twenty one minutes after four, you're on news talk,
said b After five, We're going to speak to the
Wellington Merril candidate Ray Chung about this scandal. It was
an email written a couple of years ago by him,
sent to some counselors involved Torrey Fano involved tempestuous sex.
Bit of a scandal, bit to it. We'll get to that. Also,

(12:18):
there are claims of an increase in anti Semitism in
New Zealand and the Holocaust Remembrance Center wants something done
about it. But what exactly do they want us to do?
We'll ask that question after five news talks.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
He'd be moving the big stories of the day forward.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
It's Ryan Bridge on Heather dupers Ellen Drive with one
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
He'd be great to have your company this afternoon, just
gone twenty four minutes after four, Ryan, Ozzie's are so friendly,
positive people. They are great in restaurants and cafes. Why
wouldn't you go there? I'm too old to move now,
but otherwise I would. Are we not friendly in restaurants
and cafes. I must say this service is not what

(13:03):
it was, but I just assumed that was the same
the world over. Ryan Simple, my son's moved to Melbourne
because he followed his now wife. No dollars in the equation,
but he earns less there than he would here, says Ian.
That's interesting. I wonder what he does. Ryan, My nephew
came back from Australia after a tough year. He's come
back to finish his pilot's course and be with family,

(13:26):
says Heather. Yeah. Family's always a big pool factor, isn't it.
But you don't want to be the country where everyone
comes home because I need to see my family. You
know that's a bit lame. You want to come home
because you've got exciting opportunities here. Want to You want
people to actually never leave. Just an update on the
weather for you this afternoon, because we need need to

(13:46):
keep watching. Brief estimated that already one hundred homes have
been evacuated across Tasman Region this afternoon. Civil Defense says
the situation is getting bad and has deteriorated quite rapidly
in the last half hour. This afternoon. An alert was
sent to those who've been evacuated during the previous storms
in recent weeks to leave their homes and to seek

(14:06):
shelter elsewhere. Civil defense staff are also going door to
door in the affected areas to help them. So do
listen to them. If someone knocks on your door, do
listen to them, and do pay heed to what they've
got to say. The weather in Auckland, by the way,
is meant to get really bad after five o'clock. So great,
that's for you. I mean, most people probably if they can,
have left the city already, but you do get a

(14:29):
feeling sometimes and driving into work today just the amount
of rain that was falling, still falling for twenty four hours. Yeah. Hey,
another thing happening today. Trump again threatening tariffs thirty five
percent on Canadian goods and is exempting the ones that
were already agreed undern after of course, which has always
been the proviso. But just interesting that, you know, this

(14:53):
diplomatic sort of back and forth that's going on between Trump,
between the White House and between all of these allied
clearly getting nowhere fast. Hay and Carne's obviously digging his
heels in a tariff free US Canada trading relationship. Will
never happen. So whatever happens, no one's going to have

(15:13):
an FDA. All right, Well, that's probably no great surprise.
But I guess how heavy are the tariffs by the
end of it. I don't know. At this stage. It's
looking like thirty five percent from August first. That's the
threat from Trump. News talks there be after the break
worldwise and we'll get to Dan Michison in the US.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
EXKI what.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's
Ryan Bridge on Heather duperic Ellen Drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected news talk the b.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Yeah, it is twenty five away from five Newstalks. They'd
be Rache and Wellington Merril candidate for how long on
the show after five o'clock. Then we'll speak to Deborah
Hart Holocaust remember and send that they reckon anti Semitism
on the rise. Then three sorry, thirty six thousand nurses
set to go on strike later this month. We'll talk
to the union that all ahead here on Drive, it's.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
The world wires on Newstalks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminetna, who says they're on the verge
of a ceasefire with Hammas.

Speaker 8 (16:44):
We are talking about a sixty day seas fire in
which half the live hostages and half of the the
seas hossages would be returned to his old bodies. Mus
monstrous Gonne and yes, I think we're getting closer to
a deal.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
In the State's another big clash between protesters and federal
ice agents, this time at a cannabis farm in California.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
My cousin, my sister, and my brother are in there.

Speaker 9 (17:11):
They took my brother, they took his phone away. They're
banging on there and not letting people out, trying to
get in illegally.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
It's terrible.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Finally, a woman in California has successfully stared down a
mountain lion. She unexpectedly ran into the line while she
was out hiking. When you encounter a mountain lion, you're
supposed to stand your ground, try scare it off. And
that's what this hiker did.

Speaker 10 (17:32):
Go up, go away.

Speaker 9 (17:36):
Ah no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
The mountain lion tintail at that and took off. To
be honest, so would I.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Dan Madison's a US correspondent, Dan, and welcome to the program.
Hey R, good to have you here. New Israeli intelligence
suggesting Iran managed to save some of the enriched uranium
that everyone's been talking about.

Speaker 11 (18:09):
Yeah, and I don't know how much of a surprise
this is.

Speaker 12 (18:11):
I mean, considering that we knew that the damage to
their weapons and plants was not as severe as we
were first told. And we don't know how much of
this this bomb grade uranium is still available, but the
fact is it's apparently there. We know that Israel was
concerned enough about how fast Uron was moving towards building
that nuclear weapon, and that's why this attack was launched

(18:33):
last month. So it's hard to say, I think what's
going to happen next moving forward, because according to the
New York Times, intelligence officials there said, hey, we had
not seen any evidence of a move by Iran to
weaponize the stockpile before this attack. So whether or not
the US will go back or Israel will go back
and try to finish this off.

Speaker 11 (18:51):
Is you know something we'll have to see. I guess.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, what products going to get more expensive as a
result all of the lightest tariffs?

Speaker 11 (19:00):
Oh my goodness, what isn't going to be.

Speaker 12 (19:02):
I mean, shoes are more expensive, coffee, beans more expensive, tea,
and shirts and electronics. I mean, I'm looking around where
I am right now, and it's you know, kind of
name something that we don't import from Japan or South
Korea or Mexico or Canada these days. I mean, heck,
we've even got a ten percent tariff with you guys
for I think dairy and lamb and possum and whatever

(19:23):
else that we trade between our two countries over here.
So it's going to be interesting to see how this
impacts spending, because already in the first half of this year,
the average household here is up like two thousand, maybe
three thousand dollars spending more because of these tariffs.

Speaker 11 (19:39):
And we're only a few months into this.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And you report, says Dan, that there's a severe shortage
of local news across the US, which is interesting to
me because we've got very little of it here in
New zeal I mean, we're not big, but it's when
I look at your news, it seems like every county
has a cable news network.

Speaker 11 (19:58):
Well it does seem that way, it doesn't.

Speaker 12 (20:00):
I was thinking before we started talking about this and
your listeners are probably going to go, wait a minute,
I've got more news coming at me from more directions
now than I did a year ago. I mean, I
know somebody in the business, I certainly feel that I'm
monitoring that. But just because you get something on your phone,
or you watch Fox, or you watch CNBC or a
lot of these cable channels, it doesn't mean you are

(20:20):
getting news. You're getting more opinion that I think people
are taking news at a face value, which we know
is dangerous. But since the start of this century, this
is what I find fascinating. The number of journalists in
our country has dropped seventy five percent. I mean, these
are working journalists in our communities are expanding, but journalism
is shrinking, and they say that we only have four

(20:41):
percent of the counties that we're surveyed here in this
still have as many journalists as the national averages we
did just a generation ago. And that is a huge drop,
especially when you consider just how big the world is
these days and how much we're being bombarded on all
sides by news and opinion.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Absolutely, Dan, appreciate you coming on the show, right have
you on as always? Damn it just in our US correspondent.
Time now is twenty to five. I have just been
seeing a video of Winston Peters. So he's at a
summit in quite a lumpur. Marco Rubio's US Secretary of State,
turns up. So Winston Peters is sitting there in this

(21:17):
big room, looking at his notes, looking at his phone,
basically just minding his own business. As everyone arives and
everyone's trying to, you know, joll get close to Marco Rubio.
Winston's Winston minding his own business, sitting down. Marco Rubio
comes in, is about to sit down, looks over, sees Winston,
gets out of his seat, walks over, taps him on
the shoulder, shakes his hands, stands up, has a good natter,

(21:40):
has a yarn. Isn't that funny because you see those
leaders sometimes at these summits, and I've been to a
few of these myself, and it's so cringe. You know.
You get these leaders from far flying countries and they
want their moment in the sun. They want to be
near the president. At one time, I was following Hillary
Clinton and people would they We're just getting all close

(22:02):
and just leering and wanting to have their moment. But
Winston's got the strategy. You sit back, you play cool,
you let them come to you. Seems to work. Nineteen
to five. We'll get to Jason Wall's parliament.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Next, the politics with centric credit. Check your customers and
get payments, Curtainty.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
You're on news Talks b. We'll get to your feedback
in just a second. A lot of people want to
hear from Ray Chung, who's the Wellington merural candidate. Big
sort of scandal blowing up over that today, Ryan, I
want to hear about the pendulous breasts. Please, Richard, just
calm down. Okay, you will hear about them after five o'clock.
You only have to wait another fifteen minutes. Now, let's
go to Let's go to parliament. Jason Wall's as well us.

Speaker 13 (22:42):
Hey, Jason, oh Man, you should skip me and get
to Ray Chung.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
That sounds way better. Oh my goodness, Well, you just
certainly sound as excited as Richard about pendulous breasts.

Speaker 13 (22:52):
No, no, no, that's not why I'm excited, and that's
not why I'm just I've read the story, and I've
read about the sponsors, and I say, oh gosh, you
know what earth is going on?

Speaker 3 (23:01):
A bit of a train wreck. Hey, looks like it'll
be a Labor the Party Mary in the Tammaki Makoto
by election.

Speaker 13 (23:07):
Indeed it does. The Greens said this morning that they
won't be contesting the by election in the Marty seat
of Tamake Makoto. Party leader Madama Davidson said in the
statement that our decision not to run a candidate in
Tamaki Makoto reflects a combination of factors, most pertinently the
responsible use of resources at this time. Essentially, she's saying, listen,

(23:28):
we want to save our money for the election next year.
And if the Greens were to run, listen, Madam Davidson
has run there in the past, but she hasn't really
come close enough to winning or what she would do
essentially is she'd be splitting the vote a little bit.
Now we don't know obviously, you know, if which horse
the Greens are backing at the stage, whether it is
Tea Party Mary or whether it is Labor, but them

(23:49):
being in the mix would be you know, this is
essentially them saying we're probably not going to rin this race.
We got confirmation last night that Tea Party Marty is
selected new herb broadcaster or any Carpet Carpany as it's candidates,
and she's obviously a well known broadcaster. I believe you
worked with her in the past. Ryan, Still no word

(24:10):
from Labor yes, as to who they're going to select.
We think that it's probably going to be Penni Hennada,
who is He's won the seat before, He's well known
in the region. I think he would be in with
a good shot. But we do know that Act an't
running anyone. We know that National aren't running anybody either.
We don't know about New Zealand First yet, but I
would say that they would be unlikely. So it's really

(24:30):
shaping up to be a bit of a drag race
between Tea Party, Marty and Labor.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, okay, yeah, or any Carpenters is an excellent I
think going to be an excellent candidate for them, and
I think could be a bit of a game changer
just in terms of the decorum of the party. She
comes at thinks, you know what I'm saying. She comes
to I at life from a very different angle. I think,
so be interesting to see how that all plays out. Now, Jason,

(24:56):
what else have you got for us this afternoon?

Speaker 13 (24:58):
Indeed, Well, I was quite interested did because Grant Robertson
is in the House. He addressed a select committee this
morning and opened it this way.

Speaker 14 (25:05):
Good morning, everybody. I'm Grant Robertson, the Vice Chancellor of
the University of Ottager and recovering politicians.

Speaker 13 (25:11):
Recovering politician of course, that is the former Finance Minister,
Grant Robertson. He was there to submit on the Education
and Training Amendments Bill. So as part as the Act
National Coalition Agreement, they agreed to amend the Educational Training
Act to enshrine education attainment as the paramount objective for
the state schools. So at the moment the Act or

(25:32):
the Act outlines that board's primary objective in governing a
school was to ensure that every student, yes, can attain
their highest possible standard in education. But they're also up
there is physical and emotional safety and that includes and
caters for students with different needs, as well as giving
effect to the Treaty of White Thongy. So the amendment
that the Act of put through puts educational achievement right

(25:55):
at the top. So as expected, there's been quite a
bit of pushback on this one because it puts giving
a fact to the treaty underneath the Educational Educational Achievement.
Grant Robinson was not a fan of this amendment when
he turned up to Select Committee this morning.

Speaker 14 (26:11):
I do want to say at the outset that we
don't believe that there is a problem requiring legislative change
with respect to issues of academic freedom or freedom of
expression in universities. I know myself as a vice chancellor
of a university and my fellow vice chancellors all believe
that the principle of academic freedom and freedom of expression

(26:31):
is central to our jobs and our work in universities.
The core principles that underpin what we do in a
university is embedded in the Education Act already.

Speaker 13 (26:43):
So essentially he's saying it's already there, we don't need
this amendment.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Interesting, all right, thanks so much for that. Jason. Jason
Wall's News Talk CB Political editor in Parliament. It is
twelve minutes away.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
From six Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
This is interesting from Mary, We had a video center
to us of Winston Peter's over in Kuala Limpa. He's
at an East Asia summit with fellow ministers, including Marco Rubio,
who's the Secretary of State over in the US and
Winston is minding his own beeswax, sitting at his desk,
doesn't realize Marco Rubios entered the room. Winston's just typing

(27:18):
away on his computer, faffing about, and everyone is trying
to sort of get a handshake or get a touch
of Marco Rubio as he walks into the room. Winston's
just not even paying attention. Marco goes to sit down
next to him, looks up, sees Winston, gets out of
his seat, goes over, shakes his hand, has a chat,
you know, obviously very pleased to see each other, the
two of them. Of course, Winston was over there, not recently.

(27:41):
So I was just saying, that's the trick. You know,
You're going to make them come to you. And Mary says, exactly,
don't move around at parties. This is Mary's advice if
you go to a party, don't move around at parties.
Just let the people come to you. Always being my
way of operating. Always sitting an empty table works every
time you get interesting people who come and sit to you,

(28:01):
sit next to you and become your friends. So there
you go for going out this weekend. You've got Mary's
advice to follow eleven away from five news talks, they'd
be raychoing after five and we will have an update
on the flooding. Things are getting quite bad in Nelson,
Tasman also Auckland. After five o'clock news talks, it'd be putting.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
The time questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
It looks like Doc is going to do a u
turnover those lizards.

Speaker 15 (28:27):
They initially told mccray's mine in central Otago no, they
couldn't expand ten thousand lizards might die. But then after
media attention yesterday, they've taken another look at the application
some of Paul Tucker is the Conservation Minister and with
us is it going to be a yes.

Speaker 16 (28:39):
Well, that's a matter that Doc and Oceana we're doing
at a very productive meeting. I expect that they're going
to progress that application very swiftly.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Did you tell Doc to have another look at it.

Speaker 16 (28:48):
I've found out about this matter, and I've said to
Doc what has happened here and fished up. There was
a miscommunication. They weren't clear about information requirements and they
declined it too quickly.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Hither duplessy Ellen the Mike costing breakfast Fack tomorrow at
six am with the Landrover Discovery on News.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Talks dev It has just gone seven minutes away from
five o'clock. It's no wonder Reform is doing so well
over in the UK. Can you blame people for voting
for them? I mean they are the most popular political
party in the country right now. I think they were
polling at thirty four percent. This is going off the
top of my head. Labor was polling at about twenty
four percent something like that, and the Conservatives of a

(29:25):
down on fifteen, worst result they ever had anyway, this
is why you got Starmer going out there signing deals
with the French because Macron's over in London at the moment,
the one in one out deal. This is on boat people.
So here are the numbers. One hundred and seventy thousand
people have arrived in the UK on small boats since
twenty eighteen. One hundred and seventy thousand. They reckon that

(29:48):
this year. Numbers this year have reached record levels, nearly
twenty thousand arriving in the first six months. So forty
thousand people on small crossing the Channel into the UK
in one year. I mean, you where did these people
go and this is why people are voting for reforms.

(30:09):
So what a starmer do comes out and says, Oh,
don't worry, I'm doing a one in one out deal
with Markromp, a one in one out deal. So this
is what they've agreed. So the UK will begin returning
migrants arriving in the small boats to France within weeks,
and in return, France will give the equivalent number of
migrants who've passed some security checks. So the I mean, yes,

(30:34):
I guess at least you get some that have got
that have been checked or had a security clearance. But
it's not solving the actual underlying problem, isn't it. So
to be standing there saying I've signed a one in
one out, he'll be laughed out of number ten. That
man just gone six minutes away from five o'clock bridge. Now,
lots of your texts. I've got a quick one here

(30:54):
from Ian, A sorry stut that I wanted to read
to you. I didn't read it earlier. It's about people
going to wo Australia keeps going to Australia.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Ryan.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I've got two sons in their early thirties with four
university degrees, between them, both working in highly skilled positions
and highly paid. Recently had a function with several of
their chums, all of whom are planning to leave New Zealand,
mainly to Australia. When I pushed them for the reason,
one had the courage to raise the issue of co
governance as one of the problems. It's not just about

(31:26):
the economy. There are other issues that young people have
on their minds. The thing is you would get those
issues everywhere. Honestly, you will get those issues everywhere and
you will have look at the UK with immigration. You know,
every country has its problems. I think the overwhelming impetus

(31:49):
for why people migrate is economic. That is the overwhelming
reason why you see big spikes either way, is because
people are going to make better livings, going to make
their lives better, going to earn more. That's just my opinion. Anyway,
It just gone four minutes away from very quickly wanted
to get this out to you. This is about restaurants

(32:11):
and a sort of a trend that they're seeing emerge.
A restaurant reservation service open Table, has reported an eight
percent increase in solo dining reservations. People going out and
eating on their own, and this is for twenty twenty three.
They expect the trend will continue, and they interviewed this
man who said it was just nice. You know, his

(32:32):
family's not really into fine dining, kids aren't really into
fine dining, but he really loves it, so he goes
out on his own. All power to you. I just
think it's a bit weird. I am a go to
the movies on my own. I've done that for years,
have absolutely no problem doing it because if I want
to see a movie and no one else wants to
see the movie, then I'll go and see the movie.

(32:53):
And it's not like you said and talk to one
another anyway. But with food, for me at a restaurant,
it's about sitting down and talking to the people around
you and having a drink and enjoying that whole experience together.
So I don't know. Mary clearly would love doing this,
wouldn't she Mary who texted in earlier because she likes
to sit at her own table so people come to her.

(33:14):
Maybe that's the strategy. Maybe you're sitting on your own
because you do want friends, you're just playing hard to get,
like our Winston coming up to five o'clock on news talks.
There'd b we'll get an update on the flooding of
Nelson Tasman next and Ray Schung the Meryl hopeful for
Wellington for now, Oh I get.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Mine questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust
for the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather do for
see Ellen Dry If we's one New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
That'd be good evening at a seven after five We'll
get to the Nelson Tasman civil defense controllers shortly. First,
Wellington Councilor Raychung's meoral campaigners in tatters this afternoon. One
of his key backers this is Mark de Naichick. He's
formally withdrawn his public support after today's email scandal. If
you're just catching up, it was revealed this morning Counselor

(34:23):
Chung spread gossip about Tory Farno. This was in an
email to other Wellington councilors in twenty twenty three. In it,
he claimed Tory had quote drug fueled tempestuous sex and
made references to her having pendulous soft breasts. This was
reported to him, apparently by a friend and neighbor. She

(34:44):
categorically denies this, and rage Chang is with me.

Speaker 10 (34:47):
Now, Hi, Ray, Hi Ryan, how are you going?

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Good, thanks? How are you going?

Speaker 10 (34:52):
Oh it's been a very hard couple of days.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah as it.

Speaker 10 (34:56):
Oh yeah, certainly not over yet.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Think you'll pull out of the race.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
No, no, no, I no, not at all.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
You lost your big donor, right.

Speaker 17 (35:09):
I haven't actually spoken to him yet, but that's what
I've that's what I've been told by by who actually
told me, uh Ethan Mania from the Herald?

Speaker 10 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
What's that worth to you?

Speaker 10 (35:28):
Oh? A lot? But but most of all, it's.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Like hundreds of the money, hundreds of thousands or teens
of thousands.

Speaker 17 (35:34):
Well, well, it's not the it's not the money, it's
the fact that he no, he may lose faith in me,
so so I need to Yeah, so that that's more important.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
And he hasn't even he hasn't even spoken to you
directly yet.

Speaker 17 (35:48):
No, no, he hasn't yet. So yeah, no, I I've
been on I've been on the phone since four o'clock
this morning, so I even a chance to talk to
and Andnthan just told me so I need to talk
to him.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
So Ray, can you just tell me in your own words.
You wrap for a walk and they tells you your story.
What's the story they tell you?

Speaker 10 (36:07):
It told me a story about.

Speaker 17 (36:11):
About oh, his son was down at the pub, went
down to the pub as they saw young young kids do,
and and these two women came up to them and
and one of them grabbed, grabbing one's a bum and said,
you know, you know, propossessioned him. And and so then
you know, one thing led to another, and so went

(36:33):
through what happened and so yeah, so told me about
then I was quite yeah, well, I don't know what
I thought, whether flebbergasted or as sounded or something, and
so so I didn't know what to actually do with
this information, because so.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
This is, so, did they use the words tempestuous sex?
Or is that? Was that your words?

Speaker 10 (36:56):
I think they used that those words. I didn't.

Speaker 17 (36:59):
I didn't have anything, you know, I didn't add anything.
So I just took down. I just noted what they actually.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Right, So the neighbors said pendulous soft breasts as well? Yeah,
well yeah, okay.

Speaker 17 (37:11):
Or the information what happened was it gave me the
end you told me about it. Then I came back
and I thought, well, what do I do with that
I was walking with someone else and we're walking dogs,
and so, you know, we both listened to this, and
so I thought, well, what do I do with this?

Speaker 3 (37:26):
And what do you mean, what you do we do
with it?

Speaker 10 (37:29):
You me all this information, well you.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Might have a chuckle? Do you email your colleagues?

Speaker 10 (37:35):
Well, I didn't know. What I found was.

Speaker 17 (37:38):
Remember this is six weeks into council, six weeks and
being there, and the council operates very, very differently to
any organization. So I wanted some advice from someone to
ha been there a bit longer, and so do it?
I mean, this is you know, it is you know,
an issue, and it's it affects the reputation of the city.

Speaker 10 (37:58):
So you know how many people actually know about this?
What should actually happen?

Speaker 3 (38:03):
So is that what you asked? You asked in the email,
you said, I want some advice on what I should
do with this.

Speaker 10 (38:10):
No, I told them, no, you didn't remember that.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
You didn't. You just told them a dirty story you
heard from a man in the street, like it was
a bit of a laugh.

Speaker 17 (38:18):
I mean, come on, well, it wasn't a man in
the street. It was someone who was known for many
a long time.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
And so so you believe this is true, you believe
she had a drug fueled orgy.

Speaker 17 (38:31):
I don't see why he should actually tell me these
things without being some substance behind it, because he wasn't
to know that I was actually going to walk past
this house, and so it wasn't as like he had
prepared a story.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
I know. But he also wasn't their ray.

Speaker 10 (38:46):
He was.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
He wasn't at the orgy either, you know, So it's
third hand ORGI information at this point.

Speaker 10 (38:54):
Yeah, yeah, so yes.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
So do you think it was smart to put it
in the email?

Speaker 17 (38:58):
Well, I wanted to ask I just I didn't want
to add anything to it, so I just put in
what he actually told me. And so that's what I wanted.

Speaker 10 (39:07):
To ask him.

Speaker 17 (39:08):
And I think that it was a private email that
I sent her three of my colleagues who I've known
for a lot longer than being in counsel, to you know,
and get their opinion on.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
It, and to who's that wasn't their counsel email or
personal email, personal email, personal emails. How do you think
Torri Farno got her hands on it, because that's how
it's wound up in the media today, right, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (39:30):
One one of them, one of those three gave it
to her, Which one I don't know for sure, but
you know I can guess.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
What's your guess?

Speaker 10 (39:43):
Well, I don't want to.

Speaker 17 (39:44):
I don't want to say that if I'm just guessing
because I don't have I don't have any.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Well that's sort but can you see that's sort of
what you did with toy.

Speaker 10 (39:53):
Hmm what you mean in the email?

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Yeah, you didn't know, but you guessed.

Speaker 17 (40:00):
Well, I guess, and that's why I passed it on
to them to see what they thought. I don't think
any of us, actually you Tori, because you know, we
were all new to her, and so I think that
it was very difficult for us to even have any opinion.

Speaker 10 (40:16):
And so right, yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
You ever had any drugs or done on the Orgi's.

Speaker 10 (40:21):
Ray never, sadly.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Would you like to have?

Speaker 17 (40:28):
Well, the opportunity has never been there, so I've never
been interested in taking drugs, so obviously haven't taken it
of those.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Okay, all right, Ray, Well, good luck with your campaign. Yep,
thank you, that's raid showing Wellington. Meryl Hopeful Bridge Rich
thirteen on News Talk said, b Wow, what do you say?
What do you say, Ryan, what on earth is Wellington
done to deserve this? That is a good question because

(40:59):
you know we were on such a it sort of
cleaned up its act, didn't it. The Wellington merl situation
after Tory Farno took a bit of a dive. You know,
we had the drinking problem and then we got the
pipes bursting, and you know Wellington needed someone strong to
come in and take charge. This was the last thing
I saw coming, to be honest with you, from Wellington's

(41:20):
mural campaign. And yet here we are right the text
machine going but nuts at the moment, as you can imagine,
we need to get to Nelson Tasman. The Civil Defense
Controller is on standby for us. We're going to get
to them after the break because one hundred homes have
been evacuated. The rain is still falling. It is expected
to keep falling through the night. In Auckland. It is

(41:40):
going to start getting worse about now actually, and going
through till about eight pm will be the heaviest fall.
So we'll get you across the weather next here on
news Talk's head Beat. News Talk's head Beat is seventeen
minutes half to five. We are going to get to
Alec levertis this is the Nelson Tasman Civil Defense Controller
as soon as we can. We're just having some problems
connecting to him at the moment, but there is significant rainfall.

(42:03):
About one hundred homes have been evacuated so far. Will
keep you across that. Jewish leaders here in New Zealand
are calling for an anti Semitism strategy to match the
one Australia's just announced. Australian Prime Minister yesterday Elbow strongly
condemning anti Semitism attacks.

Speaker 18 (42:18):
The idea that somehow the cause of justice four Palestinians
is advanced by behavior like that is not only delusional,
it is destructive and it is not consistent with how

(42:39):
you are able to put forward your views respectfully in
a democracy.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
We will come to Deborah Hartshire of the Holocaust Center
of New Zealand on this in just a moment, but
first at eighteen minutes after five, we're going to Nelson Tasman.
These Civil Defense Controller Alec Levertic is joining us now. Elec.
Good evening, Hello dere What can you tell us about
these evacuations? Are they just precautionary at the stage?

Speaker 10 (43:04):
Well, the.

Speaker 19 (43:06):
Mobile alerts that we put out earlier were precautionary, and
we did ask people that had been previously flooded to
make their way to high ground. That was at about
two o'clock. But things in the last forty minutes have
really taken a turn for the worst. And in the

(43:29):
last forty minutes we have experienced a number of things.
We've lost water to Kai Terri Terry, We've lost power
to Motowaka, Golden Bay, Collingwood ninety Moti, Kai Terri Terry.
We've got people that are stranded, multiple roads that are closed,

(43:54):
state highways. It's been forty minutes from absolute health, to
be totally honest. But we've got everything in hand and
we have crews out everywhere. But the a MA that
we put out earlier was in advance of this, and
the rain is just lashing this area something abseutely terrible.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
ELEC. How many people at the stage are stranded that
you know of.

Speaker 19 (44:24):
Probably about three, but we are in contact with them.
We Unfortunately, it's getting late, it's getting dark, and if
the helicopters can't get them out and they are safe
where they are, they'll just have to spend the night
and if not, we'll need to make alternative plans, but
we've got teams are working on that.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Are they safe where they are or are their lives
at risk presently at.

Speaker 19 (44:50):
This moment in time, I understand that they are okay.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
How many evacuations are you aware of? How many homes
have been evacuated?

Speaker 19 (45:00):
So I don't know that exact number, but it would
be substantial in terms of the area that was flooded previously,
in multiple valleys across the whole of the Tasman district.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
This is much worse than the last flooding you had.

Speaker 19 (45:18):
I think it's coupled. It's a different rainfall events, so
it's it's higher intensity, it's a shorter duration, and it's
hitting ground that's already been smashed and wet and sodden,
and that just doesn't help.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
So it's.

Speaker 19 (45:35):
Pain on pain.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Really all right, Alic, we will let you get back
to your job, Alec levertis with us just confirming there
is sounds like a very serious situation Nelson, Tasman. They've
got a number of people three people at least, who
are currently stranded or trapped and emergency services working to
rescue them. Widespread power outages, water lost to Kait Teddy

(45:58):
Teddy power outers across most of the region will bring
up to date. Sorry I should say, keep you up
to date with that story and return to Deborah Hert
right after.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
This informed inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on
Hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Let's get connected. News talks be good evening five to four.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
You're on news talk, said b Ryan. This is from Ron.
We're in Kait Teddy Teddy, no power, no water, but
still above water, which is good to hear. Ron, stay
safe right now, anti Semitism, we've had the Australians come
out with a strategy. There are calls for one. Here.
Debrah Heart is the chair of the Holocaust Center of
New Zealand and is on the line. Hi Debrah, Hi Ryan,

(46:40):
how are you good? Thank you? What What would strategy
actually do? Is it really going to change anything?

Speaker 20 (46:47):
Well, it will if it is a clear, accountable package
with evidence driven strategies and and has inclusive engagement and
the types of thing that the Australian Anti Semitism envoy
are very sensible and could be adopted. Here.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
You say in your statement that anti semitism in New
Zealand has moved from being a fringe issue to a
mainstream one. What does that mean?

Speaker 20 (47:17):
It means that Jewish people in New Zealand, many of
them are really scared. You hear Jewish people talking about
what's their plan be if it all turns to custard
here or who might hide them? They're seriously having those conversations.
And I can give you some examples of the kinds
of things.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
You're talking about. Who might hide them? Yes, in case
someone comes after them. Yes.

Speaker 20 (47:45):
We have a family of a preschooler, a three year old.
He was His preschool teacher demanded of him to know
if he was Israeli and then she man handled him
three six at times. That family was so scared that
they moved feast. We have Jewish students at universities who

(48:08):
have left their studies because campuses are so awful for
them that they just don't feel they can be there anymore.
The Holocaust Center of New Zealand regularly receives hate mail.
We regularly get told by public institutions that they can't
host us because they have security concerns that it will

(48:31):
be unsafe for their staff and their institution, and they
don't want to pay for the security that would be required.
We have had assaults, assaults of children, assaults of adults.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Debrah, I'm getting loads of texts. You can imagine. The
gist of it is. Many people speaking out against the
actions of the IDEF and Palestine are being labeled antisemitic.
They are using this as a shield. Is saying stop
killing Palestinians antisemitic.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
No, not at all.

Speaker 20 (49:01):
It's not anti submittic to criticize Israel, but it is
antisemitic to hold Jews in New Zealand accountable for the
Israeli government and what's happening in Gaza.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
You can have whatever views you.

Speaker 20 (49:17):
Like about about Israel and about the Palestinian course. Goodness
Jewish people do, but there are some lines that you
that you can't cross, and you shouldn't be making Jewish
people here responsible for what is happening. What's happening in
Gaza and what we're seeing at the moment is really

(49:40):
a ramping up of rhetoric and hate directed at the
Jewish community, and there are real world consequences that for
Jewish people living in this country.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Debra hartch Here at the Holocaust Center of New Zealand
says it has to stop. Twenty eight minutes after five,
Y're on news Talk, said B. We've got news coming
up and the sports tuddle ahead too. On your Friday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
On the iHeart app and in your car on your
drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on hither Duper c Allen
Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
News talk, said b'saving.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
It is eleven eleventh of July. I should say it
is five thirty six. You're on news Talk, said B.
After six, we're going to speak to Lauren Cleig. She's
running Ikea and they are on the hunt for some
employees and boy are they over subscribed. I've got five
hundred jobs going. Guess how many people have applied. A
couple of weeks ago it was fifteen thousand. Now twenty

(51:08):
thousand plus applicants for five hundred jobs. So we'll talk
about what you need to do to get one of those.
After six, cock to the woman who's doing the hiring.
That's ahead right now, twenty three away from six.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Ryan Brick.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Now the nurses, thirty six thousand of them around the
country will be downing tools to strike at the end
of the month. Twenty four hour strike begins nine am
thirtieth of July. News Zealow Nurses Organization chief executive Paul
Goalter says the latest contract offer for the nurses is
worse than the one they received in May. He's with
me now, Paul, Good evening, Good evening. How can it

(51:42):
be worse than the one you got in May?

Speaker 21 (51:45):
But that's a very good question because we didn't think
it would be, and it is worse. It pulls back
on the wages, off offers even less security around safe staffing,
and removes a couple of clauses relating to tea hunger
allowance and a Maori dispute clause. Yeah, we were surprised
by it. It's not normally the way it operates. So

(52:07):
looks very much as if government had intervened in the bargaining.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
What's a tea canger allowance and what did you say,
tea hanger allowance in a what Malori dispute?

Speaker 21 (52:16):
Cause, Yeah, it's basically where the tech hunger allowance is
where a Maori a nurse is expected to you know,
and use tea hunger in respect to dealing with Maori patients.
And there's special skill sits with that and that's actually
widely recognized across the public service. And the other procedures

(52:39):
relate to disputes or grievances and how that's worked out
through a Maori process. And again that's very familiar not
just in the public sector but also the private sector.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Okay, so the tea canger allowance, what would would that
be paid to a nurse who could then go and
get today or training or something.

Speaker 21 (53:00):
No, who would be expected to you actually use today
and also knowledge a tea hunger to do their work
with Maordi patients?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Right, so everyone, every nurse gets a tea hunger allowance.

Speaker 21 (53:13):
Well, you've obviously got to be acquainted with tea hunger
and know how to use it, etc. And that's to
the point, it's not relevant because they've just taken it
off the table.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Right. How many were getting it, I'm not sure. So
you don't know how big of a deal it is.

Speaker 21 (53:36):
I don't know how a big a deal it is
visa v than none.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
All right, Well, let's talk about the substantive numbers.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Then.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Health New Zealand says the offer would see new graduate
nurses on seventy five, seven hundred and seventy three bucks
get an eleven percent increase by the end of June
twenty twenty six. Is that not good enough?

Speaker 21 (53:54):
Well, first of all, let's look at what we're trying
to achieve in the bargaining. The major issue is about
staffing and ensuring we have enough staff to meet patient
need and safety, and that's really the emphasis of the bargaining.
The wages area goes into a cost of living movement,
which is not high. The major issue is us having

(54:15):
enough nurses on the rosters to meet patient need. And
we thought we were making some progress about getting some
guarantees from the fronto or about meeting that and they
got pulled back as well, And so that's really annoyed
nurses because it's widely known that nurses are completely under

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stress due to understaffing. It's got to be fixed.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
So would you if it's not about pay, then would
you be willing to give up that pay increase so
they could hire more nurses.

Speaker 21 (54:46):
It doesn't work that way in bargaining. It's looked at
as a package. But we've consistently tried to signal to
the government that this issue of getting appropriate staffing in
place critical is a profession nurses care about patient safety. No,
I know they can preside that.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I know that. Okay. So the government says the average
nerth nurse has a take home pay of more than
one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year, inclusive
of overtime and allowances. This is similar to salaries paid
to nurses overseas like in New South Wales. And you're
telling me that the main issue here is the number
of nurses? Are you then accepting this eleven percent pay
increases enough? And it's then just comes down to the

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number of nurses. And if that's the case, how many
extra nurses do you want before you will sign?

Speaker 21 (55:34):
So the first issue relating to the number of nurses
we need, this is very difficult to get that data
out of the Futtal war. So what we do is
we go and basically hospital by hospital or even ward
by ward, and they have a staffing model which says
this is the appropriate number of staff that are needed

(55:55):
on this shift or whatever, and to futtel or consistently
don't managed to hit those targets. And this is why
these district nurses are getting upset up in Auckland about it.
So that that's the that's the critical issue here and
in terms.

Speaker 11 (56:10):
Of the money.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
But all that, it's just it's complicated because you say
you want more nurses, you don't know how many more.
You say you don't you want the tea kg of payment,
but you're not sure how many we're missing out on it.
You see the problem.

Speaker 21 (56:28):
No, no, it's not a problem. Shift by shift, we
can determine how many nurses are actually needed at any
one time, and those nurses are just not available. So
beginning with, you can't tell at any one time because
we don't get access to that data. And that's another
point of irritation, quite frankly, because we've denied that data

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across the country and so I can't answer that directly.
But what we can do is asked the fun or
to provide the staffing that their own model says is needed.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
All right, and so the strike going ahead, possible strikes,
further strikes after that, potentially see what happens.

Speaker 21 (57:11):
Yeah, well we'll see what happens. You're ever hopeful with
the stuff, all.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Right, Paul, we'll leave it there. Thanks so much for
your time this evening. Paul Goalterchip executive the New Zealand
Nurses Organization, time now seventeen away from.

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Speaker 23 (57:48):
Here's another injury blow for the All Blacks, with winger
Caleb Clark ruled out of tomorrow night's testing.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Yeah, it's really unfortunate for Gullibe.

Speaker 24 (57:56):
Been training all well all week and just a free
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Speaker 11 (58:00):
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and Andrew Ordison's had two news talks AB sports reader Hey,
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Speaker 5 (58:18):
Greetings Ryan too.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Right now All Blacks France? How much are they going
to miss Scott Barrett? Do you reckon? Nick?

Speaker 25 (58:26):
It is a blow, But in terms of someone who is.

Speaker 26 (58:30):
And skill set to slot right in there, you can't
ask for much more than a guy like Patrick Tooplot too.

Speaker 25 (58:35):
He's played more than fifty tests in around long time.
That's super rugby level. It's it's not necessarily a cut
and paste, but you can just allow the slot into
a very role about it. The set piece be the
line out caller.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
Oh might have lost neck there Andrew. So not only
we've lost captain, well, not only have we lost Nick Bewley,
but we've lost Scott Barrett and also Caleb park.

Speaker 23 (59:05):
Well, that's right, and well we've got there are coming
in in that role. But I think that, yeah, I
think it's gonna be on a tough contest for the
All Blacks. I think quite often in New Zealand, probably
New Zealand fans more than the team itself, underestimate France.
I know that people saying this is a substandard French team,
but these guys are They're the Fixed Nations champions. Sadian

(59:28):
Goltie is a pretty cunning and wiley coach building towards
the next World's Cup down in these parts in Australia,
and I think that time and time again we underestimate Fance.
You think two thousand and seven, ninety nine, ninety thirty four,
the last time that any side beats the All Blacks
Eden Park with the try from the end of the Earth.

(59:49):
I'm thoroughly looking forward to it this match in Wellington.
See what the French can do because they've switched out
a number of players again I think just three in
the same dutyes this week.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Right, Yeah, you can catch it all here News Talks
there B of course, very much looking forward to it
to Andrew and we will get bully back on the
blower with the sports huddle next.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
You're on News Talks ZB twelve away from six on
your Friday night, Nick Buley, News Talks ZB can Toby
Rugby commentator is with us Nick at Yes he's here.
And Andrew Ordison's here News Talks EDB Sports Reader. Good
to have you both on the huddle tonight. Let's go
to Wimbledon reaching the business end. Now, Djokovic do you
think he can do twenty five?

Speaker 27 (01:00:36):
Nick, Well, it's a it's a tough one to answer.

Speaker 26 (01:00:41):
I personally think this is the era of Jannick Center
and Carlos al Karaz being at the at their dominant best,
and Jokovic's going to probably have to get through both
of them. He got centered in the semi finals and
then win that likely to be Alcoraz in the final.
This is not a knock on on Djokovic by any stretch,
but I just think the one those two are playing

(01:01:01):
and the agent that they're out, they're playing fast, explosive tennis.
They've got the stamina to go well well deep into
four or five setters. So personally, I don't think so,
but I wouldn't I wouldn't bet against it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
At the same time, all who do you see winning
the women's final? Well, or is the real winner Strawberry Pasta.

Speaker 23 (01:01:23):
Well, look Strawberry pass. I mean that's actually probably going
where I'm going With the winner of the women's I
think egas Fiontek. She's been in five Grand Slam finals.
She's won every single one of them. Albit, she's only
been as far as the quarter finals at Wimbledon until
this year.

Speaker 11 (01:01:36):
She was there.

Speaker 23 (01:01:37):
I think in twenty twenty three, I'm going to pick
here over Amanda in this sim Over I think in
this has probably already played her final in some ways,
beating the world number one Arena Sablenka, But yeah, I
think that you know Siontic especially she's got something that
strawberry pasta apparently a delicacy in Poland.

Speaker 10 (01:01:55):
Ryan, So I'm reading and yeah, I'd.

Speaker 23 (01:01:57):
Probably go for strawberries and cream myself. But the ego,
I think she'll go on and take it out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
It she does, it doesn't sound offensive, you know, It's
not like the pineapple pizza, which sounds more offensive to me.

Speaker 23 (01:02:10):
Yeah, a huge and nutritional I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Yeah. What do you think Neck about want to go?
I know you're a league man. What do you think
about Queensland? Did you think they were going to take
the Origin series? How did they do this?

Speaker 12 (01:02:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:02:23):
I must admit I follow queens they myself, Ryan, but
I'm as surprised as anyone that they somehow manage to
get the job done. It comes back to that old saying,
doesn't it that hard work beats talent when talent doesn't
work hard. And I think if you look at that
new South Wales team and you look at the players,
just absolutely stacked with some of the best players that

(01:02:43):
play the game, yet for whatever reason, they weren't able
to piece it together as a collective unit and Queensland.
You know, they had to go to Sydney, the harder
New South Wales to win the series, having lost the
opening game in Brisbane.

Speaker 27 (01:02:56):
And I just thought it was an inspired performance.

Speaker 26 (01:02:58):
Just grit and termination, and you add to the narrative
when you've got your captain and Cameron Munster who's going
through the tragedy of losing his father just four days
before kickoff.

Speaker 27 (01:03:10):
It was an inspired performance.

Speaker 26 (01:03:12):
So yeah, a lot of soul searching for New South
Wales because they really should have won that series based
on the players they had at their disposal.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Yeah, Andrew, what is going on? I still haven't managed
to get my head around Auckland f C. And this,
you know, the Richless is pulling out of the stadium
at the old Speedway. What do you think is going
on here? What's really going on here?

Speaker 23 (01:03:35):
Well, I forgive you for having stadium fatigue in Auckland,
right and I suffer from that affliction myself.

Speaker 10 (01:03:42):
From the time of time.

Speaker 23 (01:03:44):
I think that I was surprised it wasn't a more
dogged battle and it didn't stick in the fight for
that for a longer period where they just felt that
they weren't going to make any progress, or it was
too long a period for consultation, etc. I mean the
saying they're going to put up two hundred to three
hundred million dollars to go on fundad. I mean that
presumably the taxpayer rate payer wasn't going to have to

(01:04:05):
contribute too much. I wonder how many hooks would have
been in that, but as it is now that that's
just a key part of it has been removed. So yeah,
I don't know where they will go with that. Now,
we'll probably just go with what they've you know, with
the Western Springs, but previously with the Pantsavi etcetera.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Yeah, which is going to cost and this is a
sad thing for your rate payers and probably inevitably your taxpayers.
It's going to cost us MULA to do it. I
suspect just reading their press releases is based on nothing
else but that they probably got some private land somewhere
and it's going to be a hell of a lot
easier for them to do it there.

Speaker 11 (01:04:40):
Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yeah, in a.

Speaker 26 (01:04:43):
Previous life, Ryan, I used to work in local governments,
and I can only assume here this is an issue
where red tape is one out and there's no issue
in terms of funding. This is just a case where
you know, private and investors want to do things a
lot easier rather than go through all that that red

(01:05:03):
tape that we bureaucracy at a local government level.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
What did you do in local government.

Speaker 27 (01:05:11):
I've set myself up here and I was going.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
To say, don't mention that on News Talks dB.

Speaker 27 (01:05:17):
I keep that relatively quiet.

Speaker 26 (01:05:18):
I was a media conduit actually in a previous life, Ryan,
So I was fielding requests from people like yourself and
producers to try and yeah, get some information out there.

Speaker 27 (01:05:30):
But very much happy now.

Speaker 26 (01:05:31):
I'll work at zibby as a sports commentator, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
We're lucky to have you Nick. Guys, thanks so much,
Thanks so much for your Friday sports title tonight. Great
to have you on the program. That's Andrew Orderson, News
Talk ZIBB sports reader and Nick Nick Bewley, former spin
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Four to six. News Talk said, be on your Friday nights.
Ryan nurses striking again. The rest of us cannot get
an eleven percent pay increase. Just had ten days of
dad in hospital. Good nurses are worth millions. Bad ones
still get paid. Unions are the problem, says Mary. Mary.
I can tell you that. I mean the problem is
it's hard once you get unions involved, it's hard to

(01:06:20):
know what they actually want. In all honesty, I've been
doing this job for a little while. I couldn't tell you.
Every time I talk to a unionist, I'm like, what
do you actually want? And they can never clearly articulate it.
What I can tell you is that because of this
the strike that's happening, fifteen hundred elective surgeries will be

(01:06:41):
either canceled or postponed, according to the Minister. News Talk
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(01:07:46):
ahead right now. The much anticipated, highly anticipated opening of
New Zealand's first Ikea store at the end of the
year is inching closer and the company has had a
massive recruitment drive. They're looking to fill five hundred jobs
in all areas of the business. Interest has been through
the roof More than fifteen thousand Kiwis have applied, but

(01:08:07):
that was by May. Lauren Clegg is the people and
culture manager for IQ and New Zealanders with me now, hello, hello,
So you've got five hundred staff you need and you've
got fifteen thousand applications. Actually, have you had more than
that now?

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
Yes, we must be sitting at least had another five
thousand since then, so it's definitely safe to stay. We're
are twenty thousand plus at this point in time.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Wows, I've ever seen anything like that in stores that's
opened overseas.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Look, it's really hard to compare with other store openings,
but we definitely knew that it would be high expectation,
large volume numbers, but probably nothing like this. Been really
humbled at the response so far for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
And have you whittled down have you hired anyone yet?

Speaker 10 (01:08:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
Of the five hundred, we've got eighty five co workers
on board already and then yeah, essentially root four night
from now until the end of the year, we have
between sort of ten to fifty starting each fortnite to
get us to the total of five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
What sort of roles are you wanting to fill?

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
Yeah, so at the moment, we've got a real variety
left open. So we've still got quite a few roles
in fulfillment, so logistics, foot left driving, as well as
a lot of roles in sales, all of our shop
floor roles. And one probably real unique part of our
care is that we've decided to bring our remote customer
meeting point to New Zealand, which is another sixty seven jobs.

(01:09:33):
And those roles are essentially sort of similar to a
contact seem to us. So people are really helping our
omniw channel presence in New Zealand taking orders and supporting
people online. And as well as that, we want a
really large restaurant in the store, so lots of food
co workers we're looking for as well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Are you finding it hard to fill any particular jobs
like that need particular skills?

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
The honest answer to that is no. I think a
lot of that is Jude. The recruitment process we have
that we're really looking for really good culture and values
set with our care So it's not that someone comes
with a really specific CV, you know, or experience, So
we're really looking for values that which we've found. I
guess a really natural alignment between what IKA stands for

(01:10:16):
and what New Zealanders seem to be wanting with someone.

Speaker 11 (01:10:19):
To work for.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
What sort of places are people applying from? Is it
like former warehouse, former supermarkets, former retail?

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Yeah, all of the above. So we've definitely got hospitality,
lots of retail applicants, and I honestly a lot of
people that are just between workmen had admin jobs or
even for the first job as well, So a real variety.
But it showed me a lot of hospitality and retail.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Given there's no Ikea store in New Zealand at the moment,
how do you train staff?

Speaker 10 (01:10:46):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
You do have a huge sort of onboard process.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
Yeah, it's such a unique challenge that we've got at
the moment. I think we've tackled it a few ways.
But one thing is we are sending a lot of
our leadership over to Australia. It's a differentations to really
experience the in through experience because there's nothing quite like it.
And then I guess coupled with that, we've got a
quite intensive onboarding with a lot of online trainings, and
we've certainly invested with a lot of the leadership teams

(01:11:12):
coming from BY Care stores globally, so they kind of
really bring with them that facilitation strength and are able
to offer a lot of training here as well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
And in terms of the perks that you will get
if you are an employee at I Care, you know
what sort of paid peren to leave, what sort of discounts,
what sort of you know, annual leave.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Yeah, yeah, I guess maybe one of a few of
the ones that we're really proud of is everyone will
get five weeks pay annual leave, so four weeks and
you'll leave, and then we call one week by KEA leaves,
so five weeks leave in total. I've also obviously got
pay per rental leave. Family and community leave is another one.
And then in terms of your question around the discount.
So employee discount on care goods is fifteen percent. And

(01:11:55):
I guess one of the call things about I care
is I guess the real career growth you get inside.
Like I mentioned, you could start in with the stacks,
but you could end up in food running the restaurant,
could end up on the sales force. I think one
of the real benefits of people is seem like a
long term career with us for other than maybe a
job that they might be ready to leave in a
few years.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
When's the opening date.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
Well, I'm for the end of the year. We're doing
everything we can to get there for late twenty twenty five.
That Dan realize's so much excitement and expectation around it.
But keeping that one under wraps.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
For now, well, a lot of people are very excited.
I'm sure to go and see it. Lauren, Thank you
for that. Lauren Clegg, people and culture manager at IKEA
in New Zealand, opening sometime before Christmas twelve. After six
News Talk ZIBB, next, Jason Walls wraps the Week in Politics.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Zibby News Talk Zibb. It is quarter past six, Ryan,
can they hire We just spoke to the New Zealand
manager for Ikea. They have five hundred jobs on off.
They've had twenty thousand plus applicants. Somebody says, Ryan, can
they hire the redundant vic Park workers? That was after
the fire, you'll remember from a couple of weeks ago.

(01:13:10):
My understanding, Texter, my understanding is that they have all
been offered work. There is another New World store that
is opening in a suburb nearby in Point chev My
understanding is that they've got jobs there. They're bringing forward
the opening of that store, and then the remainder who
haven't been offered jobs at that point will get work

(01:13:30):
with other food stuff's businesses. So if that's not the case,
I would love to hear more about that, because they
made a commitment. New Will made a commitment that when
that fire happened, that nobody would be without a job.
All right, let's go to Jason Wall's News Talks. They'd
be political editor to wrap the political week. Jason, welcome back. Oh,

(01:13:51):
thank you very much. The COVID inquiry was back. We'll
just sinder a doin really testify. Is Hipkins making a
mistake discounting those who's speak as conspiracy theorists.

Speaker 13 (01:14:02):
Well, in terms of just send our Deurn, I'm not
convinced she's going to front up the way that we think.

Speaker 10 (01:14:07):
That she might.

Speaker 13 (01:14:08):
I sit in some seat over zoom. She certainly won't
do it in the country and provide a testimony that
we can all watch it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
I'm a little bit more.

Speaker 13 (01:14:17):
Convinced that she's just going to provide evidence in terms
of written statements and whatnot. That's because we've got a
brief statement from just sinder Ardurn earlier this week which
said that she will provide evidence to assist the Commission
in meeting its terms of reference. We are in discussions
about the best way for that to occur. Then she
goes on to say she is also happy for the
Commission to access her previous testimony from the Commissions of

(01:14:40):
Inquiries first stage.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
So listen, she might.

Speaker 13 (01:14:43):
Surprise me and actually do as sit down interview. And
I think absolutely and I agree with you on this
one and most other people, I think that she absolutely should.
She was a critical part of New Zealand's COVID nineteen
response and if we're looking to get better, and if
we're looking to improve when it comes to the next pandemic,
and then her testimony will be pivotal for something like that.
In terms of what Chris Hipkins said, yeah, of course

(01:15:05):
it was a mistake. It seemed like he was very
much belittling the process. And I do notice note that
after he made the comments to you on Harold Now,
he walked them up back a little bit with Carrie
Woodham when he was doing talk back with her. So
obviously he saw that. And you know, he could have
meant it the way that he said he did, which
is he was just talking about the people that will
rile them up, such as the Brian Tomacky's of the world,
and not the commission itself. But I think at that

(01:15:27):
stage the horse had bolted.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Yeah, the story this week was the lizard thing, and
I'm still not quite sure where were at with this story.
But did Shane's lizard bluster have an effect?

Speaker 13 (01:15:38):
I think it absolutely had an effect. I mean, this
is the Department of Conservation which came back and said whoa,
whoa who Actually all right, all right, well, we'll work
with the mind to establish what's going on here. And
how we can help them. I don't think that would
have happened without Shane Jones getting on the radio the
way that he did and talking about how there were
more there are more lizards in the area than acne

(01:15:59):
on a teenage boys face. And I thought his a
very creative use of language sticks in people's minds because
it is exactly one of those things. I mean, if
you're a conservationist, if you're agreeing or not, as they
were talking about seven hundred to one thousand job as
being impacted by this, and you just think that there
had been some major pressure from Cabinet on the Department

(01:16:19):
of Conservation on this one. And I'll tell you what,
I've oaed all the communications between the Minister of Conservation
and the Department just to see what exactly went on here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Interesting because they came out their statement from Doc said, oh,
the Minister has been telling us to get rid of
this backlog of applications and we have, We've halved them.
But then you wonder, well, are they harving the backlog
by just you know, declining them all.

Speaker 13 (01:16:43):
Well, I mean they might just be saying noah to
to some of the ones that were a little bit
more of a maybe before just to make it go
a little bit quicker. So maybe, yeah, maybe Shane John
does have some reflection to do on that point.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
That poll that had Winston well and you said on
first popping up ahead into the third most popular party's
sees at the moment, of course in KL But he'll
be happy with that, Oh, he'll be thrilled.

Speaker 13 (01:17:04):
And I my entire career asking Winston questions, I know
the one thing that you shouldn't ask him is about polls,
but I think that he might have made him an
exception for this one.

Speaker 10 (01:17:12):
I mean, there are three.

Speaker 13 (01:17:14):
Point seven percentage points.

Speaker 27 (01:17:15):
It's huge.

Speaker 13 (01:17:15):
They're now on the cusp of double digits at nine
point eight percent. They've leapfrogged act who are at nine
point one, and they still I mean, they're still.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
All right up there.

Speaker 13 (01:17:24):
It just goes to show that the governing parties are
doing quite well right now, whereas the left are struggling somewhat.
I mean, Labor was down three point two percentage points,
but that's because we really haven't heard a lot from
Labor in the last couple of weeks, unless it was
Chris Hipkins talking about the COVID inquiry.

Speaker 3 (01:17:40):
Jason appreciate that, Thank you very much. Jason Will's News Talks.
That'd be Political Editor with us twenty after six on
your Friday evening. I hope you're keeping as well as
dry as you can if you're a Nelson Tasman and
in Auckland where the rain was supposed to be quite
bad in the next few hours. Next it's showbiz and
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(01:18:00):
guy was sort of done and dusted, but apparently he's
got a new album out. I'll tell you who it is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
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Six twenty three News Talks. W'd be Peter Lewis, Asia
Business correspondent with US after six thirty News and our
UK correspondent Gavin Gray trooping of the carlor happening over
there in London at the moment. We'll get to that shortly.
Ryan's sorry, but I've lost all sympathy for the upcoming
strike action. This is the nurses Union which is doing
a twenty four hour strike. Lost all sympathy for the

(01:18:39):
upcoming strike action. When the union rep you were speaking
to went down the path of te Kang of payments.
Clearly the union is not reading the room. With the
current government moving away from race based policies, says Gary,
they just not listening. Ryan. The unions aren't owed data
because the union member we were speaking to is saying

(01:18:59):
they need to know from far from Health New Zealand
tough fart to order, what is a safe staffing level,
how many nurses are we short, etc. He's saying we
need that data. This text is saying they don't know
you anything. The employer determines the staffing levels. The employee
decides if they want the job or not. Pretty simple.
Twenty four minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
After six Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
In Showbiz News this evening, it's the Bebes. Justin Bieber
has returned from a four year hiatus with a brand
new album. It's called Swag. It's Bieber's seventh album since
he started in twenty ten. If this comes as a
surprise to you, you're not alone. Fans got less than

(01:19:44):
twenty four hours notice. This is why it didn't make
sense when I read this headline. Billboards with the record's
track list have appeared in Iceland and Times Square. Tracks
include Dad's Love Therapy Session and Devotion. Justin's been a
a bit of hot water recently. Fans have been quite
concerned about his safety after recent public outbursts.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You're not getting it.

Speaker 27 (01:20:06):
It's not cloking to you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
It's not clocking to you that I'm standing on business,
is it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
I just think it's sad. It reminds me of Britney Spears.
It's just got all the hallmarks of a Brittany breakdown,
divorce rumors with wife Hayley Beaber. Anyway, new album is
coming out. Here is a taste of Daisies.

Speaker 9 (01:20:25):
So many days and I can see you workin kisses
though with n to shoot on my show, jumy a
p happing up the cover on the friskin skin, the

(01:20:48):
way you're gumy on my head.

Speaker 7 (01:20:52):
And early you muppy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Is you know?

Speaker 9 (01:20:57):
I can tee it date so many dates that I
can see her in the working Oh malcom holding feels.

Speaker 28 (01:21:11):
I mean, oh no, my bead.

Speaker 10 (01:21:20):
Me.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
You don't have to be lolling.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
You got benalling. You'll have benning.

Speaker 28 (01:21:32):
You'll have to be yalling you.

Speaker 7 (01:21:40):
The way you'll call me on the head.

Speaker 13 (01:21:42):
You have me the.

Speaker 9 (01:21:45):
Lea you be popping.

Speaker 7 (01:21:48):
Whatever it is, you know, I can see it.

Speaker 29 (01:21:51):
I'm telling the.

Speaker 9 (01:21:52):
Date and how many dates that I can see you working.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Okay, whether it's macro microbe or just plain economics.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
It's all on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and theirs.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Use Talks V if they're feeling down.

Speaker 7 (01:22:28):
Just make you.

Speaker 10 (01:22:34):
Good.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Twenty five way from seven News Talks MB, we'll get
to Gavin Gray out of the UK. Before top of
the Tarkica. There's been an alert issued, an emergency mobile
alert for residents in Tarcica inside the last twenty minutes.
Flooding possible in the township. If you feel unsafe, they
are advising you, that is, the authorities advising you to
get to higher ground if you can. If you can't,

(01:22:55):
call one one one, it's an emergency situation. A lot
of flooding that they expecting, the a lot of rainfall
still happening across the country. Twenty five away from seven now,
Ryan Bridge and we're going to Peter Lewis that Asia
Business correspondent Peter, Welcome to the show. Good evening, right,
good evening now, Trump is punishing bricks countries with more tariffs.

Speaker 24 (01:23:17):
Yes, indeed, he said that this is to punish what
he describes as the anti American policies of the bricks nations,
and they're going to face as a result of that
in an additional ten percent tariff. He doesn't say at
all what those policies are or what he expects them
to do about it. And in some ways it's all

(01:23:38):
rather odd because the bricks really it's just a name
for a group of five similar or roughly similar economies.
It was coined by an economist of Gold and Sachs
about twenty years ago for Russia, India, China, South Africa
and Brazil, and it sort of stuck since then. But

(01:23:59):
of course this is not a sovereign country or even
a block of countries in the same way that the
European Union has, so it can't respond as a group. Really,
it's very difficult for it to do so. In any way.
This group has now expanded to ten countries, includes places
like Iran and Saudi Arabia, so they really can't agree

(01:24:21):
on anything at all. But the one country that has
responded forcefully to this is Brazil. Now that's firstly because
it's just held the last Brick Summit in Rio a
week or so ago. But also on top of that,
Donald Trump has now imposed or threatened to impose fifty
percent tariffs on Brazil. Partly, it seems because he feels

(01:24:46):
that they're treating badly their former prime minister, former President's Bolsonario,
who is a friend of Donald Trump's. So Donald Trump
is using tariffs now not just as a weapon in trade,
but a way of expressing his grievances about almost anything
he doesn't like with any country. And it seems to

(01:25:06):
go well well beyond trade, so it leaves no room
whatsoever for negotiation here. And Brazilian President Lula da Silva
has responded very false forcefully to this. He said it's
a blatant interference in the judiciary process of his country.
They're going to respond with reciprocal tariffs of their own,

(01:25:27):
and he basically said they're not going to accept any
lectures from the USA. I suspect other countries in the
Bricks groupings feel similarly, and we'll see statements from some
of them. We've already heard from China, but we'll see
statements from some of them soon. But remember that some
of those countries there, like India, are quite friendly to

(01:25:48):
the US, so they're not going to want to upset
the US too much, particularly when maybe they're on the
verge of coming up with a trade deal of their own.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
Fascinating, isn't it, Because trade wars enterefs are one thing.
If that is what the you know the weapon is
being used. But when you start talking about interfering with
other judicial systems or constitutions, there's a totally different kindle
the first, isn't.

Speaker 24 (01:26:12):
That absolutely, and the US would never stand for a
country doing the same to them. But Donald Trump seems
to use tariffs as an all encompassing weapon now to
basically sometimes just expresses dislike for a country and its leaders.
We've seen this with Canada for example. It's clear that

(01:26:34):
he really hasn't liked, he didn't like at all, Justin Trudeau.
Although he says he has a good relationship with Mark Carney,
he says that with everyone, and he doesn't seem to
get on that well with Canada either at the moment.
And this is used to basically punish countries and to
try and impose American policies and politics on independent sovereign nations.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
Now, how likely is that Vietnam will soon have a
trade deal with the US.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Well, I think they will.

Speaker 27 (01:27:07):
They will.

Speaker 24 (01:27:07):
Donald Trump claims that they have one already, although we
haven't seen anything written down about this. When he says
he's agreed with Vietnam's Communist Party, chief to Lamb is
a twenty percent tariff on Vietnamese exports to the US,
and then a forty percent tariff on any goods that
are deemed to be transhipped through the country. Now this

(01:27:30):
is important because this could well be a model for
other trade deals going forward. But what Trump is concerned
about is Chinese products, the products that don't originate in
Vietnam in the first place, but come from other countries,
and particularly China. He has in mind they go through
Vietnam and then end up in the US as a

(01:27:52):
way of bypassing Trump's tariffs on those particular countries. Now,
China is very concerned about this because it sees it
as damaging its interests in the region and for its
ability to trade with third party countries. And in some
ways it's not too bad a deal for Vietnam. Vietnam

(01:28:14):
is very, very heavily dependent upon the US for its trade.
It certainly needs to come up with some deal, and
this is better than the one that was being proposed
back in April. And if it can get to grips
with these tradesshipments, I'm not sure how it's going to
do that because they're very, very difficult to identify and

(01:28:35):
do something about. But if it can get to grips
with them, then in effect it's got a twenty percent
tariff with the US, then it could live with. It's
not ideal, and it will have an impact on its economy,
but nothing like the sort of the impacts that higher
tariff's up to maybe fifty percent would have had on

(01:28:56):
Vietnam's economy. So they're still talking. Put this down in writing,
but I suspect we will see a deal with the
Vietnam and this will prove very very important for the
Asia Pacific region.

Speaker 11 (01:29:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
Interesting, Peter. The number of companies looking to list in
Hong Kong is heading all time highs. What's prompting this, Well,
it's a few things.

Speaker 24 (01:29:18):
There are Hong Kong companies that are already listed, so
Chinese companies that are already listed in the mainland that
want to raise extra money through the secondary list Through
secondary listings, they are very concerned about going to the
US to list, partly because of the political issues between
China and the US, but also they are fearful that

(01:29:40):
they could be forced eventually to dlist because there are
bills going through Congress which want to take firm or
action against Chinese companies listed in New York and going
as far as forcing them to be delisted. So it
makes the US a difficult option. And in addition, the
Hong Kong stock market has been boot this year. It's

(01:30:01):
up over twenty percent. It's one of the best performing
markets in the world this year, so companies want to
take advantage of that to come and list here in
Hong Kong. And as a result, the Hong Kong Exchange
is the number one listing venue in the world in
the first half of the year almost fourteen billion dollars
worth of initial public offerings and secondary listings. That takes

(01:30:24):
it ahead of the NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange.
So companies, you know, like like some of the like
some of the retail firms in particular that are already
listed in China are using this as an opportunity to
go and raise new money in Hong Kong, and in

(01:30:44):
some ways that money is then sort of ring fenced
from their China operations and they can use that to
go and expand elsewhere in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
Fascinating, Peter, thank you for that. Paid Lewis that Asia
Business correspondent on your Friday night here on News Talk
CB at ten minutes away from six, sorry from seven.
Coming up next, Gavin Gray is in the UK. UK
and France have agreed on a new one in, one
out policy. Look I told you about this policy earlier.
Sounds like an absolute joke to me. Maybe Gavin Gray
has a different opinion. He's on the show next, Everything

(01:31:16):
from SMS to the big corporates, The Business Hour.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
With Ryan Bridge and Mayor's Insurance and Investments, Grew your Wealth,
Protect your Future newstalgs EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Hey, it's great to have you with me this Friday evening.
It's fourteen away from seven o'clock. Now let's go to
Gavin Gray. He's in the UK. Are UK correspondent, Gavin,
Good evening, Good morning to you are there aunts?

Speaker 10 (01:31:38):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
UK France have agreed on this. Can you sell this
to me? This one in one out policy. It's I mean,
it doesn't solve the problem, does it.

Speaker 11 (01:31:50):
No?

Speaker 29 (01:31:50):
I think they hope it's going to act as a deterrance.
So Ryan, basically the system will be that, and we
expect this to start. Incidentally, within a few weeks, some
arrivals here in the UK will be returned to France,
but in exchange, the UK will accept an equivalent number
of asylum seekers subject to security checks, and also those

(01:32:14):
who have not tried to break the law by getting
into the UK before. And it's that crucial last sentence
that they're saying, right, you might be allowed to get
into the UK legally, but not if you've tried to
do it illegally in the past.

Speaker 11 (01:32:28):
So the question is will add act as a de terran?

Speaker 29 (01:32:30):
But the numbers of what we don't know. It's reported
that this game could see up to fifty people a
week being returned. Ryan, We are getting sometimes thousands in
a week coming in and so one begins to think,
will that really put people off?

Speaker 11 (01:32:46):
Will that be a deterrent?

Speaker 29 (01:32:48):
And many people as well believe in that the hundreds
of millions of pounds rumored to be seven hundred million pounds,
that the Great Britain has given to France in order
to combat the people's smiting gangs and to try and
prevent these boats from leaving our shows. Many are thinking,
you know, I think you know, we should have the
money back. I mean, where's that been spent because we've

(01:33:10):
seen very little improvement in there. Nigel Farage, the leader
of Reform UK want to be future leader of the country,
and of course the Brexit architect, described this deal as
a humiliation for the UK, saying it will do absolutely nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Yeah, because the knit you had the same number coming,
won't you. I mean that's sure though. The security I
just can't understand it. What is What is his solution?
By the way, because he's obviously way up in the polls,
everybody loves him. What's his solution.

Speaker 29 (01:33:43):
Well, he's saying, look, we've got to get tough like
Australia did and simply tow the boats back to France. Now,
if he says that is ruled to be illegal, which
it probably will be, he says, then we need to
leave the European Court of Human Rights and say goodbye
to that and all that that entail and say that
we have to get tough. We have to tow them

(01:34:03):
back into French waters, and he said, and if votes
begin to sink that, I'm afraid that the French will
have to mop up and have to stand by and
face the music. On that he is talking tough, but
I do think now it's reached a situation twenty two
thousand so far this year, up fifty percent the year before,

(01:34:24):
something they think needs to be done. And of course
this government on day one counseled the previous government's plan
for a processing center in Rwanda, which was again meant
to be a deterrent, but has done nothing to dip
the numbers itself. And this is a huge vote winner
or vote loser.

Speaker 11 (01:34:40):
But around one thing I should say on this topic.

Speaker 29 (01:34:43):
France says it's going to accept them back, but on
the basis that those people are resettled in the country
in which they've first arrived in the European Union, which
is law, they are supposed to claim asylum in the
first country. Now often that's Greece or Italy, but no,
they continue their journey through other countries, including France, to
get to the UK, and at no point are they

(01:35:03):
claiming asylum in those countries. And again plenty of people
think that is bizarre and odd and it's wrong. And
also on the point now Greece and Italy are very
worried that the ones who are returned from the UK
will end back in those countries and they say they're swamped.

Speaker 11 (01:35:21):
Gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Hey, Meanwhile, the UK economy strength unexpectedly in maye.

Speaker 29 (01:35:26):
Yeah, just got these figures in and already now we've
heard from Ragerie's the Chancellor saying it's disappointing, saying we
need to get more money in people's pockets. But yeah,
this is very bad in that it was a point
three percent decline in April and now we've had a
point one percent four in May.

Speaker 27 (01:35:46):
Might not sound significant.

Speaker 29 (01:35:48):
We had point seven percent growth at the beginning of
the year, but that was different because lots of businesses
were trying to get ahead of tax changes that were
coming in with uncertainty about tariff, so also exporters trying
to get orders out of the door. Now two months
of decline, the economy is clearly stagnating, if not going

(01:36:09):
into recession. And why well, lots of different reasons being
potentially given for this decline because a forecasters have predicted
an increase, not a decrease, oil and gas extraction down,
car making and pharmaceutical industries weaker. The services sector grew,
but yeah, not enough to tip the balance in the

(01:36:30):
right direction.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Kevin, appreciate that. Thank you very much for your report.
Kevin Gray, UK correspondent. It is nine away, sorry, just
gone eight away from seven here on news Talk ZIBB.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
News Talk ZIBB. Six away from seven. Well, here's hoping
the All Blacks went on the week and if they don't,
well that would be very disappointing, although it would make
the third one more exciting. Hopefully you stay dry wherever
you are this weekend. It sounds like you won't avoid
the rain in Nelson, particularly Tarkka. We're hearing in the
last half hour. Stay up to date with your alerts.

(01:37:13):
I'm sure you will, and news here at news Talk
ZB on the hour. Of course, today's prize for weirdest
interview goes to Ray Chung, who's the Willington Meryl candidate.
I don't know what that was about, but sort of
suggested he might want an orgy, but it was weird.
It was weird. You'll have to go and check it
out at newstalk, zeb dot co dot MZ. Thank you

(01:37:35):
so much for listening. Everyone, been a great week, enjoyed
your company. Have a fantastic weekend. And it's what are
we going out to?

Speaker 30 (01:37:42):
Going out to some Lord tonight, Ryan our favorite daughter
off the new album Vergin. Because the news is out.
It's finally happening. We know it's happening. Lord is coming
back to New Zealand. She'll be playing two shows. She'll
be playing at Auckland Spark Arena on February the eleventh.

Speaker 3 (01:37:56):
Then she'll be.

Speaker 30 (01:37:56):
Playing at christ Church's Wolfbrook Arena on February thirteen. So
I keep an eye out with.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
The tickets to that one and taste. I have a
great one. See you on Monday.

Speaker 7 (01:38:04):
If you wear.

Speaker 28 (01:38:06):
Run I'm always fun to your ring ing my beads.
How can you say, I'm so you had a brother?

Speaker 5 (01:38:19):
I look like him?

Speaker 7 (01:38:21):
Get so US's kiss. He died of a broken heart
and a fool. Every door you openness for I can
go in up break. I still can't find you.

Speaker 28 (01:38:44):
Now that every day plane takes off and every night
the roof fills up, but tell myself so filters.

Speaker 7 (01:38:55):
Up then last seing every word, just.

Speaker 31 (01:38:59):
See ya because I'm an address, I look the medalsa
what for your.

Speaker 7 (01:39:07):
Panicos address? To be your favorite friend?

Speaker 11 (01:39:11):
So uh that.

Speaker 7 (01:39:16):
Where I run, I'm always grow into your bringing my better,
give me the way of your.

Speaker 20 (01:39:29):
Until I.

Speaker 7 (01:39:31):
Want to treat sothing.

Speaker 26 (01:39:34):
But I did not want this.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
And when you hid.

Speaker 31 (01:39:40):
Your look at the address, look at the medics were
for you, so you could imagine being a favorite frien, always.

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
Weighing up atist to be as braves.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
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