Full Show Podcast: 16 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spinths to find the real story. Egoring.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's Heather duplessy Eland Drive with one New Zealand, let's
get connected News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Nikola Willis has
just announced she's going to throw millions more towards subsidizing films.
She's with us after five to explain cruisers coming to
New Zealand are way down big time. This is against
the international trends. So we're gonna find out why, and
we're going to chat to Auckland FC's head coach about
their first playoff game next week and can they take
the whole Competition's Heather duplessy Ella. Hey, Look, I just

(00:37):
want to be clear. I don't want to start a
disagreement between shows here on Newstalk ZEDB. But I did
listen to Mike Hosking this morning talking some smack and
I felt listening to I felt, no, I'm gonna have
to say something about this, just to restore a bit
of balance to this debate. In defense of instant coffee,
the stuff is great. I love it. I drink it
nearly every day. Little flat white in the morning, little

(00:59):
old school instant in the afternoon. I am I would
like to point out squealy in the demographic that should
be snobby about coffee, right, it should be like fresh
beans from Rwanda every day, grew up on the cafe culture,
live in ponds and bee have some of the best
cafes in the country around the corner. But I still
wrote by instant.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I don't want to be like super unfair on Mike
because obviously he's a legend, but he does some girl
math when he wants to Instant coffee is not more
expensive than your ground beans. I mean, if you look
at it on the face of what you're paying at
the supermarket, yep. Sure, your classic Macona at twelve dollars
for one hundred grams does appear to be more expensive
than you Havana five star coffee beans at ten dollars

(01:38):
fifty for two hundred grams, because obviously getting two hundred
grams of the beans as to as opposed to one
hundred grams of the instant. So you know you're paying
for twice as many beans for roughly the same price.
But you and I know that's not how it works.
You and I know that you're getting more cups of
coffee out of that little macona jar. Because you're only
using one teaspoon at a time. You're using the beans,

(01:59):
you're gonna have to fill up that whole double shop
filter basket, and so you're gonna whip through that two
hundred grams a whole lot faster. But the thing about
it is, obviously, you know, it's not just like I
live in Poulsenbee, Okay, It's not just about price. Canna
afford to go and buy myself a nice little flat white.
It's about the fact that it tastes good. It tastes
instant coffee, tastes good in its own special watery mudway,

(02:19):
do you know what I mean. It's got its place
in life. I don't think we need to discount it.
It's kind of like you can enjoy yourself a craft beer,
but then you can also want a dirty old corona
from time to time, or you can you can make
a virtue out of eating your vogels and getting all
that fiber going through your gap. But there's sometimes you
just want a nice white slice with your snag, you
know what I mean. Sometimes you just want to get

(02:39):
down in the gutter with that little instant coffee. Not
everyone wants to drink an espresso at three in the
afternoon and be pinging at eleven at night. Still that's
the place of the instant coffee. You have that at
three and you just got a little light, little buzz
until seven, sleep like a baby after that. And finally,
just the final point on this is it turns out
more of us actually drink the insane than the espresso.

(03:01):
This may shock you because we were the land of
the flat white, but we are also the land that
invented the instant coffee in Southland. And the last survey
I saw said forty four percent of us drink the
instant and only thirty four percent of us drink the espresso.
And as Mike likes to say, numbers don't lie either.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Duper c Allen nine.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Two nine two. Now Walworths well, speaking of the supermarkets.
Woolworths has hit back over claims that supermarkets are charging
us too much, instead blaming the government for it. Now
they've released a paper today and they say it's the
GST on the groceries that make our groceries more expensive
than over in Australia and the UK, and our Peter
de Wet is the INTROM managing director of Allworst New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Peter.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Hello, hi there. Okay, So if you take the gst
off and the comparable taxes around the world, are we cheaper?

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Absolutely? In the comparison we've done, which is to a
number of UK and Australian retailers, we end up being
about ten percent cheaper.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
What are you You're not just choosing things that are
going to make it like You're not You're not gerrymandering
the situation. Are you by choosing things that are cheaper
in New Zealand?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
No?

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Absolutely not. So we used the Choice shopping basket and
to give you a sense of what it did, all
the core core basics things like milk, apples, carrots, mint, wheat, pigs, butter, toothbaste, shampoo,
you know, or the core basics, so twenty real staple products.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
How do we end up cheaper that like that? Well,
this is going to confound anybody who's ever done any
shopping around the world.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I think the reality there is.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Customers.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
You know, this is a comparison, but customers feel the
pinch of having paid a lot more for the groceries
globally over the last number of years. It's not only
a New Zealand problem. So I think the reality is
if you if you go and shop, it feels expensive.
That's just the reality of it.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Okay, So is it a case of us having higher
taxes or is it a case of the countries you're
comparing us to us to having exemptions on their groceries.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, the reality is they've got they've got a different
gest structure to us. So the bulk of the products
we've compared, about two thirds of them don't have GSD
on them. So it is a structural difference between the
three markets. And I just want to be clear, you know,
the reason we're pointing it out is not to say
GESC issued or shouldn't be there. The only reason we're
pointing it out is because often we see comparisons out

(05:18):
in the media where people say we're so much more
expensive than these markets. But the reality is one's going
to compare apples of apples.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, so what are the exemptions they have got that
we don't.

Speaker 5 (05:31):
So in both these countries. I'm not going to talk
through all the details, but roughly, if I give you
a general assessment of it, fresh products in the main
are not are not covered under jest and neither like
commodity grocery products.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Okay, you've also made the point that if the government
was to intervene, it would push up the price, potentially
buy as much as six percent. But what would it
be that would cause that price rise?

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Sure, so I think that you know from what we've
what we've looked at the reality one of the challenges
we've got it. There's two big challenges in New Zealand.
The one is that we far away from everywhere, and
the other one is that we are small country, so
scale is really important. So if you take the existing
retailers in the market, if we were to, let's just say,
loose twenty thirty percent of our scale overnight, it would

(06:18):
mean that our costs are the relationship of our cost
to total sales would changed dramatically overnight because of that
loss of scale, and therefore prices will buy by nature
of that go up.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, Now, when I saw this this morning, Peter, my
first thought was that you guys are firing a warning
shot over the bow of the government have used you
as their whipping boys.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Is that what you're doing, That's definitely not what we're
doing either.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I think you know.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
The reality of it is we want the same thing
as the government. We feel the plane of our customers
every week. We all customers ourselves, and we want to
bring prices down. What we do want to make sure, though,
is that through the ciorify process, which is actually a
really constructive process to date, is that we share factual
information as best as we can with the government for
them to make informed decisions. You know, if we can

(07:05):
get a better outcome for customers on price, that's a
great outcome. We just want to make sure that.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, but I mean to be fair, Peter, if you
were going to share information with the government, you could
have shared information with the government. You've chosen to share
it with the rest of us, haven't you.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, we've shared it with the government first though, and
what you've said with the government is significantly more detailed,
and we really hoping that we can work through it
with them. But the reason we've shared it broader is
we want to make sure that customers know what the
facts are as well. Now, that's not going to make
you know, were also realistic about the fact that's going
to not make them feel better about what they spend

(07:38):
at the checkout next week, that's for sure, but we
do want them to know what the facts are.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Peter, as always, it's really good to talk to you.
Thank you for your time. Mate. That's Peter Dewett will
worst New Zealand into a managing director. Ah, now you
being honest about today. Now that you've been given the
old permission to shay, you've given me permission hither to
admit that I'm an instant coffee drinker my hidden secret.
Hither I totally agree. My morning coffee is a long black,

(08:04):
But in the afternoon I have instant Oh, Kate, you
know how to run your life. You're probably a mum.
Just you just working that little routine on your salfe,
just getting yourself through the day with your little first
your first legal high and then your second little half
bump of illegal high. Heather, nothing like a Jed's number
three to get me going in the morning, Craig, I'll
ask Anne, Marie. I'll ask one of the office ladies

(08:26):
to get us a Jed's number three, or see if
I like that one too. Quarter past.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It's the Heather Topsy allan drive full show.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
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Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's eighteen past four and Jason Pine Weekend Sports hosters
with me right now.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Hey, poney, hey Heather, you just got me having my macona?

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Are you having a macona?

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I pretty much drink instant coffee al most exclusively. I
like to buy one when i'm ount about, but instant
for me, mate, Macona.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yes, because you're from Pori, Vegas, aren't you.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
I'm not sure what you're implying.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well, you keep it real and don't you.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Oh, I see what you mean. Yes week so well
were you.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
And Tawer Heights Now I can't remember? No, no, no, absolutely,
I mean, but you go into Wellington like this is
like sacrela jay. You can't talk about it. Like when
you walk out of the studio, your colleagues are just
not going to talk to you for the rest of it.

Speaker 6 (09:17):
We'll turn their backs. They will turn their backs.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Pony, listen, what do you reckon? The worries you reckon?
They can keep this run going against the Dolphins.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
I think so. Yeah, four in a row. I think
that becomes five tomorrow at sun Corpse Stadium. They were
there a couple of weeks ago for Magic Round. Of course,
and beat the Cowboys narrowly. They had a narrower win
against the Dragons last time. I think we spoke about
this on Monday. They're just finding a way to win
the type ones where last year they more often than
not didn't win the type ones. The Dolphins are going
through a little bit of a resurgence. They know that

(09:45):
if they win this game, they could finish the weekend
in the top eight. But yeah, I just like the
way the Warriors are going about things at the moment.
If they win tomorrow five in a row, they set
up a massive game next weekend at go Media when
they welcome the Raiders back and try and get a
bit of revenge for what happen and in round one
Vegas a pony.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
How good are the Melbourne Victory.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
They're a good team. They're a good team, yeah, they
and what they have crucially is finals pedigree. They finished
fifth in the league, which you think, okay, fifth Auklea
FC were top. What's the problem here? But Melbourne Victory
know how to win finals matches. The two legged thing
is really fascinating to me.

Speaker 8 (10:20):
Hither.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
I know you're speaking to Steve Carricker a bit later on,
he probably won't say it, but I reckon if you
said to him, Steve, you'll draw tomorrow night and come
back with the tie level back to the home leg,
I think he would take it. He won't say that
he'll take it, but I think he would take a
draw away, bring the game back home next Saturday evening,
win there and go through to the Grand Finder good team.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Does that change I mean, wanting to go for a draw,
like a draw being so much better in this particular
set of circumstances than a loss. Does it change the
way that they play?

Speaker 6 (10:50):
I see? And that's the other thing about that, the
variable and this is that Steve Coricker's teams don't play
that way. They go out to try and win matches.
I mean, if you're trying to get a drawer, you
just you know, part a big bus, you know, not literally,
but in front of it, in front of the goal,
and basically have everyone back on defense and just stop
the other team from scoring. That's not the way they play.
But like I say, if it's late in the game,

(11:11):
and let's say twenty minutes to go and it's at
nilall I think you think, okay, let's try and close
this one out. Go home at nilall and win next
week and it goes smart at go medium o'ts smart?

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, Piney, thank you very much, really appreciate it, and
enjoy your coffee. I'll see you again, so I'll see
you next week. Actually it's Piney. We can sport host
midday to three o'clock to morrow and sunder here on
newstalk S'DB now yesterday around about this time, Darcy said
Ryan Fox probably won't do that well because he couldn't
find an example of somebody qualifying one week for the
PGA circuit and then the next week went on the
PGA circuit winning a championship. Well, here's the thing. Ryan's

(11:43):
not doing too badly. He is tied for fourth, He's
only three shots off the pace. He opened with a
four under par sixty seven at Quail Holler, and he
said this, He's managing to do this despite easily his words,
easily the worst preparation I've had for a major championship.
All he did to prepare was he played one because
remember he was driving and he was hungover and all

(12:04):
kinds of there was basically and was coming off the
bars and waking up at four in the morning. Freaked
out about what he'd managed to do. He managed to
play one round of eighteen. On another day, he had
a few balls and played one hole, but then a
storm came in and he couldn't play anymore. That's all
of his prep, a whole prep tease off for the
second round at four thirty tomorrow morning. To keep an
eye on that four twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Moving the big stories of the day forward.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Aw, it's Heather duper Sel and drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected the news dogs.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
That'd be do you know what in all of the
twenty four past fourt in all of the drama that
was going on yesterday, and there was so much drama
going on in Parliament, we completely missed the best insult
that was thrown around, and that would be Winston Peters
answering a question about Chris Hopkins.

Speaker 9 (12:47):
Chris say a lot of things, but he's a sausage
eater who doesn't know what a woman is.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Sausage etter. I thought the same thing. You know what
you're thinking? I thought as well. I thought he cut
He wouldn't, so I went to google it. No, that's
not what it was. What it means basically, Russians used
to call Germans are sausage ETAs. Historically, this is according
to Reddit, so caveat obviously, but apparently the Russians used
to end novels and so on used to refer to

(13:14):
Germans as sausage ETAs, which implied that they liked kind
of the basic things in life. But they're a bit simple,
do you know what I mean? Like there's like not refined,
like a bit peasanty, is what he's saying. I have
asked the local German on this program if we are
okay to call her a sausage eta. She's made it
abundantly clear that that would be considered bullying. And today

(13:35):
is pink Shirt Day, and every single one of us
is in a pink shirt and we will not be
bullying anyone today. Maybe on Monday, change.

Speaker 10 (13:42):
One of us.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
What's that?

Speaker 11 (13:44):
Every single one of us?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
What color do you think this is?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Ants?

Speaker 8 (13:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's a subtle pink Okay? I like my pink subtle,
like I like my bullying subtle, which is yeah. I've
been working on that joke all day. It's probably not
appropriate on pink Shirt Day. I've withdrawn apologize immediately before
somebody complains about that, I'm really sorry. I am taking
it incredibly seriously. Today. And by the way, Nikola Willis
has announced today that she's going to spend six hundred
million dollars on subsidizing film and TV productions over the

(14:11):
next four years. Now, this is not I mean, it
feels to me, having kind of had a look at
what she's had to say about this, it feels to
me like she's begrudgingly spending this money because it is
a race to the bottom, right once people start doing
incentives for film subsidies and stuff. Once they start doing
the film incentives, then everybody just keeps on trying to
beat the other person. And if you unless you're prepared

(14:31):
to go, you know, and match everybody, you're going to
miss out all together. So you just have to keep
on lowering it and lowering It's unfortunate. It is the
situation we find ourselves. And she's gonna be with us
after five o'clock. We'll ask her a little bit about
the GST on the groceries business, on that hither we
produce enough food to feed forty million people out of
this country. Food should be so much cheaper here. We
are five million, and we produce enough food for forty million,

(14:53):
which is a fair point, Dennis, but it's probably not realistic. Heither,
we're currently touring Italy. Coffee tastes like shite, so is
rocket feel, and the cappuccino is weak and watery. Arm
with you on that instant coffee is not so bad,
thank you, Daryl.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
By the way, also, just just if you are into
the espresso, because as I said to you, you know, I'm
an equal opportunist on this, although do not come near
me with one of those drippy things at the Americans
stick in their hotels. That stuff is headyous. Anyway, So
my husband's we drank the Robert Harris number five for
the old the espresso machine at home, and my husband said,

(15:26):
he said to me, oh, you know, Robert Harris number
five is the best. And I thought because he's stingy,
like he's famously stingy, And I was like, just make
a tight water, isn't he? And so I tried some
other flash beans. It actually is. It's actually I'm on
it now too. I'm prepeched. I've got a grinder, I've
got all the gear. I'm prepared to try the flash beans.
But you know what, if you want to try the
Robert Harris number for five, tell them I sent you Headline's.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Next recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.
It's hither duplicy, Ellen, drive with one New Zealand. Let's
get connected news dogs.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
They'd be.

Speaker 9 (16:09):
Dad.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
The Jimson is standing by out of the US for us,
and then we're going to go to politics very shortly. Listen,
we have got a little bit of problem with the
cruise ships. Cruise ships are taking off worldwide like it's
a big deal now to cruise, except for New Zealand.
The cruise ships are not coming here. So there's a
drop by the looks of things in the upcoming season
of about a third, about thirty percent or thereabouts, particularly

(16:30):
bad with regards to South Island ports. And it seems
to be that a big factor here is there is
that there is uncertainty about whether they can get into
Milford Sound and have a look around there now at
the moment, obviously no decision has been made. But if
you think about it from a business perspective, if you're
making these bookings and taking money for it, and then
all of a sudden, the government's like, actually, now you

(16:50):
can't go in. Well, that's a major problem. And so
as a result, by the looks of things, they're just
not coming anyway. We're gonna have a chat to Jackie Lloyd,
New Zealand Cruise Association CEO after five. Right now, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
The world wires on youth talks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
US Secretary of State Marco Rubio says he's not expecting
much from tomorrow's meeting between Russia and Ukrainian delegations in Istanbul.
He says the officials Moscow has sent a too low
rank for a major breakthrough.

Speaker 12 (17:16):
We don't have high expectations of what will happen tomorrow,
and frankly, at this point, I think it's abundantly clear
that the only way we're going to have a breakthrough
here is between President Trump and President Putin.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Now, Trump, speaking of has been in the UAE today.
He's hinted that he's on the verge of a new
Iran nuclear deal.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Iran has sort of agreed to the terms.

Speaker 9 (17:40):
They're not going to make I call it, in a
friendly way, nuclear dust.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
We're not going to be making any nuclear dust.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
And Finally, a British swimmer is attempting a twelve day
swim in freezing shark infested waters to celebrate the fiftieth
anniversary of Jaws. I mean, there are different ways to
celebrate it, but whatever, man. I mean for three to
four hours a day around the coast of the island
where Jaws was filmed, in order to raise awareness of
great white shark's important role in the ecosystem. And the

(18:08):
swimmer has a support team and a boat and a
kayak and an anti shark electrical device, so he should
be safe from Jaws.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Business and with US now is Dan Richardson. US correspondent Dan, Hello, and.

Speaker 8 (18:25):
That shark is thinking how sweet fresh meat.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
But then it's going to it's going to be like
this is going up against senses. So we'll see how
that goes. Hey, So the question of the birthright citizenship
is going before the Supreme Court here.

Speaker 8 (18:41):
Yeah, yeah, so there they seem intent on maintaining this
block on the restrictions on birth race citizenship. That being said,
I think the Court's also looking for a way to
kind of scale back a lot of these orders, and
none of the justices really spoke up in defense of
the order's legality. They had it hearing for about two
and a half hours today oral arguments, and several were
saying that they thought the order was almost unconstitutional. So,

(19:03):
I mean, this is just one of the big obviously
the big issues that President Trump has made part of
his agenda and related to immigration, and the administration is
asking the courts to address this on an emergency basis,
which is why they heard the argument.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Today they're going to block Donald Trump anti.

Speaker 8 (19:21):
I would think so. At this point, we're not expecting
a decision on this case until early in the summer,
so maybe another six weeks, maybe another couple of months.
But I think what they're looking to do is saying,
at least a couple of the judges were saying, you
know what, we need a broader remedy on this. Here's
what you need to do. You need to handle these
cases as a class action lawsuit. You don't need to
do a sort of this blanket injunction that will apply

(19:43):
everywhere in the country. So I think they're trying to Honestly,
I think they're trying to pot it off I don't
think they're going to go ahead with this.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Oh interesting, Okay, now the Paid Diddy trials grim, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 8 (19:55):
They had his ex girlfriend, Cassie Ventura on the stand today.
I think this was day number three three in the trials.
So they're going to continue the cross examination tomorrow. The
judge is saying, hey, you guys got to wrap this
up for her because she's expecting to get birth anytime soon.
And basically, the defense was asking her about the relationship
with Colmes while they were dating, and they had emails
to the jury. They had messages between them. There were

(20:17):
some sexually graphic ones talking about this freak off which
seems to be all we're hearing about on the news
over here, which was sort of drug and fueled, you know,
whatever you want to go down there. Anyway, Combs has said,
I'm not guilty to this. I don't belong in this
racketeering conspiracy charge. There's no sex trafficking. But what's interesting

(20:37):
Heather's the jury also saw messages from a few years
back where she told Colmbs that she loved their quote
freakofs when they both wanted it. So the defense I
think is trying to use these and other messages to
form some kind of relationship and characterize that she was
a consulting adult and she's not a victim on this.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
And how long how much long is this trial going
to run?

Speaker 8 (20:56):
That's a good question. I mean, they'd like to get
her off the stand by tomorrow so she can go
and and like I said, she's expecting a baby, so
me maybe another week or so. And then after that,
who's to say how long before the jury will come
back with their decisions.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And are you, I mean, are we expecting that they're
going to be a little celebrity revelations here?

Speaker 8 (21:13):
I don't know, there might be I mean, this could be.
This could be a case where I could very much
see that he is sent to prison for I mean,
who knows. I mean, he could face life in prison.
They're saying at this point, I don't think it'll come
to that, but I could certainly see him spending a
significant amount of time right now the way this case
is going by.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Bars Now, this military, this big military parade for Trump,
how much is it going to cost?

Speaker 8 (21:35):
Well, it depends. Some people say on the low end,
it's a bargain. At twenty five million. Others say it's
going to go to forty five million dollars. And it's
kind of tied into the Army's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.
So they're talking about tanks, dozens of tanks on the
ground and jets in the air, and the Army had
been planning to move troops and equipment to our National
Mall in DC next month on the fourteenth as part

(21:56):
of the anniversary. You know, the President Trump said, hey,
you know what, it's my birthday, my seventy ninth birthday
right now. And he really likes parades. When he went
over I think it was last last No, I'm not,
I'm kidding. When he went to France last year, he
saw the parades and the trooping that was going on
over there, and he really came back with this thing,
is like, we've got to do something like this over here.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
He's going to inper a complex. Look at him. I mean,
he's like houses a foot we had Emperor type decorations.

Speaker 8 (22:20):
He he does, and honestlyhether, we haven't had a parade
like this since the early nineties when they had all
these troops and tanks going through Washington celebrating the ousting
of President Sodom Hussein and the Iraqi forces from Kuwait.
That was the last time we had anything remotely like this,
and it certainly didn't cost, you know, forty forty five
to fifty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Hey, did you decide to book your Christopher Cross and
Toto tickets? Because I was raving about it.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I did.

Speaker 8 (22:45):
I just got them yesterday. I'm going to see Toto,
Christopher Cross and men at work in August. I can't
wait for that. And I decided to go for it
after your recommendation.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Thank you. But we and we differ on with the
Toto of Solace. I think the Solace but still won.
But you go and have a listen to them and
then we'll talk about it in August.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
A came okay, sounds good.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Thank you, Dan, as always, Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent. By
the way, Justin Bieber has broken his silence on this
P did de business.

Speaker 8 (23:10):
Now.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I don't know if you've been following. This is pretty
sordid stuff, but there were rumors on the internet that
Justin Bieber had been one of P did He's alleged victims.
Justin Bieber's reps have put out a statement saying Justin
wasn't targeted by the rapper. Although Justin is not amongst
Sean Combs as victims, there are individuals who were genuinely
harmed by him, says the statement. Shifting focus away from

(23:32):
this reality detracts from the justice that these victims rightfully deserve,
So we can put that one to rest. Heather. It's
not about the boats not wanting to come to Milford.
It's about them not wanting to pay to clean their
boat holes before they enter our waters. One of the
cruise liners pulled all their cruises because of the costs,
and the cruisers are very cross about this, SUSI will
we'll have a chat to the cruise association figure out

(23:53):
if that is the case. Seventeen Away from five.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
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Speaker 3 (23:59):
Jason Wall's leaders is with us nowI Jason.

Speaker 13 (24:01):
Good afternoon and happy Friday.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
It's been a week, hasn't it.

Speaker 13 (24:06):
Hap It's been a week?

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, hey, listen, So what do you make of this
money that we're throwing at the film subsidies.

Speaker 14 (24:11):
It's an interesting one, isn't it, Because it is quite
a large sum of money five hundred and seventy five
million dollars over four years, taking the total sum to
just over a billion dollars. So this is where eligible
productions can access about twenty They can access twenty percent
of a cash rebate on production expenditure when that production
costs more than fifteen million dollars for feature films, and

(24:33):
it's four million dollars when it's TV productions. If it
costs over thirty mili, chuck another five percent on there,
says the government.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Now.

Speaker 14 (24:40):
Willis argues that this scheme has been very has been
very successful in the past. Inbound productions invested nearly seven
point five billion dollars in New Zealand over the past
ten years, she said, supported by one point five billion
through these rebates. So she argues that's a pretty good payoff.
And she says that you know, ten long large international
productions have come to New Zealand after twenty twenty three

(25:04):
twenty twenty three review of this scheme. These include, for example,
the Minecraft movie, which I know you as the mother
of a toddler has probably gone to see three or
four times now. So Nicholas actually sat up front that
she's not really a fan of governments essentially shelling out
to big businesses.

Speaker 15 (25:20):
I'm going to be candid with you. Generally I'm not
a big fan of industry incentives, but the reality for
this sector is that we simply won't get offshore investment
without continuing the rebate scheme.

Speaker 14 (25:34):
Now, despite this, the Taxpairs Union says, this is just
another dose of corporate welfare at a time when the
public services are under pressure and the nation's books are
deep in the red. Now, I was while we were
at this stack, so it was it was in sort
of the wetter area of Mirima this morning, and it
was in a big film studio, and I was looking
around thinking, didn't David Seymour have a real big problem

(25:56):
with these sorts.

Speaker 13 (25:56):
Of things when he was in opposition and.

Speaker 14 (25:58):
He's been relatively quiet to So I asked Nikola Willis,
you know, how did you get libertarian David Seymour and
the act MP's on board with this look.

Speaker 15 (26:07):
I've persuaded him and the same way that I presented
the case to you, which is, how can we be
a government for economic growth if we allow a major
industry to die? And you know what, I'm very persuasive
with my cabinet colleagues from time to ty.

Speaker 14 (26:24):
So you know, I'm sure there's more to it than that,
but apparently she got him over the line with her
good persuasion skills.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Now we're actually talking to David Cmore at ten person,
I might ask him a little bit about that. Look,
this business with the ACC minister flagging that ACC might
not be the right outfit for people who want compo
for sexual abuse suggests to me that he's softening us
up for exactly that they're not going to accept this claim,
are they.

Speaker 13 (26:47):
Well, I don't know how to read this.

Speaker 14 (26:48):
There's not a ton of detail in the story from
the post. I mean, there's a good story in terms
of getting Scott Simpson's thoughts on this, but you know,
this is it comes down to this. There's judgment in
twenty twenty three called the Tea case where the Court
of Appeal ruled that sexual abuse survivors were entitled to
compensation for the loss of potential earnings from the time
that they were from the time when they were abused,

(27:10):
and ACC advised that this was expected to cost them
three point six billion dollars and that's the liability on
their book. But Scott Simpson told the Post that this
was a live and current question, whereas where the government
might make changes that meant the claims that arose from
this appeal ruling weren't funded through a CC quote when
the scheme was originally set up, the foundational setting up

(27:33):
of ACC, I don't think they contemplated an outcome of
this sort. Reflected by the judicial outcome in this case,
perhaps we need to have a conversation as a nation
about what the best vehicle to provide that care, support
and assistance is and whether that's ACC. So it kind
of almost sounds to me as if he's looking to
shift this liability.

Speaker 13 (27:53):
To another section of government.

Speaker 14 (27:55):
And at the end of the day, you know this
is Nicola Willis created an entirely new way of measuring
government surplus and deficits because of the large deficit that
ACC had because of this case. You'll remember she called
that oubigail X. It sounded like some sort of Tesla remake.
But it really remains unclear as to how this is

(28:15):
going to be, where this money is going to go.

Speaker 13 (28:18):
Who's going to have this liability?

Speaker 14 (28:19):
We asked Nikola Willis about it today. She was giving
us practically nothing.

Speaker 15 (28:23):
As I said, Kebnet needs to consider that matter as
you'll have to put the question to the Minister for ACC.
But that is a measure for Kebnet to consider it.

Speaker 14 (28:32):
So it remains to be seen what actually happens here,
because it's a head scratcher for sure.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I mean it sounds like because with ACC, it's very clear, right,
ACC is a delivery vehicle for basically paying your money, right,
but another agency may deal with the differently, like they
may just provide you with some counseling or something like
that and may bring the cost down quite a lot.
So perhaps that's the I mean, that's obviously the thinking here, right,
is to try and get rid of some of this cost,
isn't it.

Speaker 14 (28:54):
Well, I mean, it was ACC the right vehicle in
the first place to be the ones handling this and
I hate to use the word, but it is this liability.
So I mean, you're absolutely right. It could be somewhere
else within government that's better handled and better suited to this.
So it's not a bad idea, But the money's not
going to go away. The government still will owe the
people because of this judgment.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Are you sure?

Speaker 8 (29:15):
Well?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I mean, because I reckon not I reckon, you shift it,
you take it to another agency, and then it's different.

Speaker 14 (29:21):
So I if the government thought they got bad pushback
from the pay equity issue, imagine the pushback they would
get if they tried to wiggle out of a judgment
like this.

Speaker 13 (29:30):
I mean, there would be the end.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Of them maybe, But they've softened us up so it
wouldn't be as much of a shock. Jason, I really
appreciate it. We'll talk to you later. We'll reap the
political week that was at about quarter pass likes that
Jason Wall's political editor eight away from five putting.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
The tough questions to the newsmakers the mic asking Breakfast.

Speaker 16 (29:47):
Winston Peters as well. It's got a view on Jerry
brown Lean's reaction to that ruling from the Privilegus Committee, And.

Speaker 9 (29:52):
Yes I do, but it's not vice for me to
express it on this program. I continued to do, Suddenly
a bad life, don't mind. I don't want to talk
about it on this program. Fair enough for this way
at the Select Committee, and a very truncated process because
they wouldn't turn up. Of course, enormous de days has
come to a decision that's for the House to endorse
it otherwise. And this idea of hours and hours and
days and days and weeks everyone having a chance of

(30:15):
talking more than once and move a memos is in
my view plainly role that's a part.

Speaker 16 (30:20):
I want to go back tomorrow at six am the
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Babies, Real Estate News Talks z be.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Look.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I don't want to be accused of calling Fergie nutty,
but Fergie is nutty. So the latest is that Hergie,
Fergie and Andrew have inherited the late Queen's corgies, and
Fergie has given has given her thoughts on this, and
she reckons Queen Elizabeth is still speaking to her via

(30:48):
the dogs. So she said, by the way, she's speaking
to the Creative Women Platform forum in London. I don't
know why I'm telling you that, just so that you
know that there were serious people in the room. By
the looks of things, all just a lot of women.
Who knows. And she said, I have her dogs. I
have her corgies. Every morning they come in and go whaff,
whiff and all that. And I'm sure it's her talking

(31:09):
to me. I'm sure it is her reminding me she's
still around now. Just in case you think, oh, look,
it was an unguarded moment and she probably just ran
out of things to say, just you know, over talked.
I am one hundred percent certain that she said this
last year as well. I am one. I can't I
don't have the time to google it. Also, I don't
want to fill my Google history with this kind of nonsense.

(31:30):
But I am one hundred percent certain that Fergie said
this last time and didn't get enough attention, and so
she said it again and it's all over the news.
Me how mental is that? And like they're really quite
quite weird sometimes, aren't they. Listen, Matthew Houston, I just
want to draw this to your attention. Matthew Housian's made
an excellent point in his column today, which is, let
is read the Mary parting. If the Marty Party really
believed that Ewie Mary never seated sovereignty with a Treaty

(31:54):
of White Tonguey and that Parliament has absolutely no say
over Mary, then they need to behave like shin Fein,
because shin Fain believes the same thing about the king
in Northern Ireland. Right, they reckon that the king has
no jurisdiction and then if they do believe the same
thing as shin Fain, then they should behave like shin Fain,
and they should refuse to participate in parliament, refuse to
swear allegiance to the king, and refuse to take the

(32:16):
king's pay and perks, because that is what the MP's
in Shinfein do. They get elected, but they don't turn up,
they don't get paid, they don't do any of that stuff.
And if they do that, then we can take the
Maori Party seriously because they are acting seriously on principle.
But if they keep on turning up like they are
and taking the money and taking the flights and taking
the accommodation supplement and all the nice things that they

(32:36):
have because they're in peace, but then acting like they do,
then we can see them for what they are, which
is this is not about principle at all. This is
just about being unruly, isn't it, and drawing some attention
to yourself. I think Matthew makes an excellent point in
the Herald today. It's worth going and reading that column.
Nikolauillis is going to be with us straight after the
news talk through the film Subsidy and this little accusation

(32:57):
that the reason that we're paying so much for groceries
is actually not because of the supermarkets policing us, because
of her GST news talks. They'd be.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the Drive show you trust for
the full picture, Heather Dupers on Drive with One New
Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
They'd be.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Afternoon. Now we have been told that the budget is
not a lolly scramble, but the film industry is getting
six hundred million dollars worth of lollies in the form
of subsidies. The rules stay unchanged. Eligible productions can get
a rebate of up to twenty five percent of production costs,
and the Finance Minister, Nicola Willis is with us. Hey, Nicola,
Hi header Now that sounds really cynical, but the truth
is we we actually don't have an option as a country,

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do we.

Speaker 17 (34:03):
We don't.

Speaker 15 (34:03):
If we don't do this rebate, then our film industry
will pack up its bags and leave overnight. And that's
because around the world there's about one hundred countries who
do different rebate schemes. Australia, the UK, all of the
countries we're competing with and it's your ticket to the game.
If you don't do the rebate, people won't even think
about filming here. With the rebate, we can then say, well,

(34:25):
we're the best place to come to because we've got
the best landscapes, the best post production, the best digital effects.
Our rebate's actually at the lower end of the scale internationally,
but because of all of those other factors, it keeps
it going and it supports jobs, it supports growth. We
get income tax and return, so it works for New
Zealand's economy apparently.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Is it true that they've taken about a billion dollars
in subsidies just in the last five years, I mean,
is that worth it?

Speaker 15 (34:49):
In the past ten years, they've taken one and a
half billion dollars worth of rebate, But in return, New
Zealand has got seven and a half billion dollars worth
of an investment from that industry, and that has meant
that there's been money spent in the economy, there's been
people that have been hard jobs that have been created,
tax paid by those people in those jobs, and these

(35:10):
are highly paid jobs, highly skilled and it leads to
really great development. So all in all, it's one of
those things I'm not a big fan of subsidies. I'm
not a fan of industry incentives, but with this one,
I can't keep a straight face and say I care
about the growth of the New Zealand economy and then
kill an industry.

Speaker 17 (35:29):
That wouldn't be right. So we're making sure the funding's there,
just really quickly.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
It's a bit technical, but I see you're bumping up
the amount that is allocated for this financial year, the
one that we're in. Is that because it's oversubscribed.

Speaker 15 (35:40):
Yeah, that's because there have been a number of productions
which will be applying for rebates that apply to this year.
So we're making sure the funding's there. Part of this
is a story about fiscal cliffs and all of that
sort of thing, which is traditionally this has only been
funded just in time, and we're making sure there's enough
money in the baseline for future years so that the
industry can have certain and confidence this scheme is around

(36:02):
to stay. Come to New Zealand to make your movies.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Okay, hey, did you see Wilworth's is blaming GST for
the grocery prices in this country.

Speaker 15 (36:10):
Well, I think that's a bit rich. I mean, seriously,
they have every opportunity to lower their prices, they choose
not to because it's not very competitive. And my view
is yep. The government has some things it does. It
needs to keep inflation under control, it needs to keep
other costs down where it can. But Willworths has a
big job to do and trying to deflect like that
is very disappointing.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Nichola, thanks very much for you time, Nichola Willis Finance
Minister and Economic Growth Minister.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Ever do for c Allen.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
The White Tongy Tribunal has just released its urgent report
into the Regulatory Standards Bill. It wants this bill thrown
out until more marty consultation has done. It's supposed to
be introduced to the House on Monday. David Seymour is
the author of the bill and with us now, hey, David, hey,
is this bill the threat that these guys think it is?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
No?

Speaker 18 (36:56):
The White Only Tribunal has every right to do what
it would like to do. It's subject to a review
by this governance and I'm say anything more about that.
What I will say is that they've made two basic
claims in their report. One is that the Regulatory Standards
Bill was not properly consulted with Maori. And two is

(37:17):
that promoting the quality before the law is somehow bad
from New Zealand. On the first one, it's actually untrue.
There were twenty three thousand submissions on the bill, one
hundred and fourteen of them from ey organizations. So first
of all there was consultation with Mary. But second of all,
this legislation in some form has been debated for twenty years.

(37:41):
The idea that we as a government are obliged to
be more accountable to some of our cimisms than others
because of their race is anathema to me. The second
objection is because the regulatory standard SPILL actually requires politicians
to explain if and why discriminating against people based on

(38:02):
their race, and actually be held accountable for that, so
the voters can make up their mind they think that's
a bad thing. I think the rule of war and
equals before the law is a good thing. And if
there's people who are disadvantaged, we can help them on need,
not race. We don't need to discriminate by that race.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
What did Nichola Willa say to you to make you
come around to the idea of film subsidies?

Speaker 18 (38:24):
Nothing at all. We believe that film subsidies is something
that we need a solution to that doesn't involve shutting
down the industry. Now there's no new money that is
simply continuing what's already been done. If there was a
way to get the other countries around the world to
call the film industry's bluff so that we didn't all

(38:46):
have to subsidize them, that would be great. Nonetheless, the
policy continues. Maybe one day when we have a government
that reaches out to others and shuts this kind of
subsidence for billionaires down, will be in a better play.
So our position hasn't changed. We just don't have a
government that's ready to do the necessary thing to stop

(39:07):
the subsidies.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Brilliant, David, it's good to talk to you. Thank you,
David Seymour As Party leader, Heaver do for c ellens. Now, look,
I'm just warning you this is a PSA. It's public
service announcement. But the sea bomb debate might get another
run because we've got the Voyager Awards tonight. Now, the
Voyager Awards are the I think it isn't for the
TV people as well. Yeah, it's for the print and

(39:30):
the TV people. It's a weird marriage, isn't it. Radio
people do their own awards, but then the print people
and the TV people do awards together. But whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever,
never mind, this is how it is. But the Voyager
Awards tonight, Andrea Vance nominated Political Journalist of the Year.
She's up against Guy and Espiner, and she's up against

(39:51):
Jamie Ensaw of The Herald and enz Mey and formerly
news Hub and Warner Brothers. And I'm looking at that
and I'm thinking that's a bit of competition from Guy.
But I'm going to put my money on Andrea. And
so I'm going to place a bit with you right
now that Andrea is going to win, and then it's
going to be like wh who for the one who
dropped the sea bomb? Shropped the sea bomb and then
we awarded her with an award. Look, if she wins,

(40:13):
it's because she deserves I've said it. I said it
on the show on Monday. Very good at what she does,
very incisive, great journalist. But yeah, wait for it. You
might wake up tomorrow with another run of it fourteen
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Speaker 1 (41:12):
Heather Do for ZL seventeen past five.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Now it looks like we've got a problem with cruise
ship sailings. New numbers out today show that a lot
of the ships are choosing to give New Zealand a
bit of a miss. Overall, there's going to be twenty
eight percent. Few report visits nationwide in the upcoming year.
Jackie Lloyd is New Zealand Cruise Association CEO and is
with us now, Hey Jackie, Hi, how are you very well?

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (41:33):
What's the problem?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Ah?

Speaker 19 (41:35):
A number of things really, This has been on the
cards for a number of years, which we've been making
quite a bit of a noise about. There's four main
reasons for the change. One of them is the changes
of regulations mid season, so cruise lines book and lock
in their deployment eighteen months to two years in advance.
They sell their passages to passengers so they can get

(41:57):
on board and travel in New Zealand. The last few
years has been regulation change and cost increases in New
Zealand that have been made within that booking window, and
in that case is nowhere for the crew lines to
pass those costs on passengers and that comes directly off
their bottom line. Addition to that is that we are
a very expensive destination. Our costs are very high and

(42:18):
have got higher, and at this time of year I
get well in the world these days, with a number
of other increases in costs around fuel and so on,
New Zealand is really we've priced ourselves almost out of
the market. We are one of the most expensive destinations
that crew lines visit. In the past, you know, we
have always been expensive and the passenger ratings and satisfaction

(42:39):
have outweighed that cost. But given the current economic climate,
the balances tip the other way and we really are expensive.
The third one is biofoiling risk, so that is cruise
ships cleaning their cleaning their hulls and there and their
undersides to make sure that they're clean and tiety and
they do wish to do so absolutely and keep New

(43:01):
Zealand waters clean, but there is also always an overhanging
risk that they might be denied entry at the border.
And you've got a full payload of passengers on board
expecting to be in New Zealand and being denied as
really unacceptable from a financial and a brand reci point
of view. And we've lost lines like Koonad, you know,
the beautiful Queen Anne's, Victoria's Mary. They're not visiting New

(43:23):
Zealand these coming seasons. So all those things together have
really created a negative perception from cruiseline executives. I'm sure
they think New Zealand's unwelcoming that we're not wanting cruise
and they're reflecting that in their deployment decisions for the
next couple of years.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Jackie, Wow, just so much great information. Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it, Jackie Lloyd, New Zealand Cruise Association CEO.
There are two ports in this country that are getting
more visits, Timrou and the sub Antarctic Islands.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Now, the.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Head teacher at the kindy went to the sub Antarctic
Islands the other day. She told me it was awesome.
It's just beautiful and it's kind of quirky and weird.
That's why people go there. Timaro, I know you're thinking, Hello,
is this the nineteen sixties and everybody's going to Caroline
Bay again. No, Apparently what's going on is that Timaru
has made a concerted effort to attract cruises. So if
you go for it, it will come to you. Now,

(44:15):
you know how I feel about parking companies. I've pushed
it too far with one of them. I'm going to
tell you about this five twenty one.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Informed insight into today's issues. It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive
with One New Zealand. Let's get connected News talks that'd be.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Hush here there re five was a passenger on a
cruise ship and I went to Timaro. I'd be very
disappointed by the way. We're gonna have a little chat
to Steve coric Of, the head coach of the Auckland
football club shortly after the headlines. Right now it's five
twenty three, So listen on this business with the supermarkets,
I reckon the government might might want to take a
breath and just back off on the supermarkets. Will Worth

(44:53):
is playing nicely at the moment, but don't be naive.
They have released that report today for a reason, and
that reason is to shift the blaze for our high
grocery price is right back on the government and for
the GST that the government puts on the groceries which
other countries don't. Now, they could have had this conversation
privately with the government, and apparently they did, but then
they also went public with it. And the only reason
they've gone public is to convince you and I that

(45:15):
they Wilworths are not the problem. And if they're not
the problem, who's the problem? The government for the tax
and they will know it Willworth that this is fertile
ground with voters, right, because for how long now have
we debated at almost every election whether we should take
GST off the fruit and vegetables. Now, personally, as I say,
I think the government should stop making the supermarkets they're

(45:35):
whipping boys. I know it plays well for them because
everybody's cross at the supermarkets because people hate paying the
high grocery bills and whatnot. But the government knows doing
that is going to go absolutely nowhere. They're not actually
this is the government. They're not actually going to do
anything right. This is all just talk because the only
country apparently where a government has intervened in the supermarket
sector is Venezuela, and I don't think we want to

(45:56):
copy them. And also that led to nine thousand jobs
being lost and see sixty percent of stores being closed.
Apparently also Alworths is a big enemy to take on. Right.
These guys are overseas listed, they are multinational, They know
how to play rough. If I was in government, I
would read this report as a warning that this debate
might soon stop being about where the supermarkets are fleecing
us and become about whether the government is fleecing us.

(46:19):
It might backfire on them, And I reckon. They should
just back.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Off now, Heather Dupless Allen.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
So, there's been a bit of chat today about hospital
car parking charges, and the reason there's been chat about
it is because you know the private companies. It's not
the hospitals that run the car parking if you go there.
The private companies run the hospital the hospital car parks,
and apparently they charge more. This is Wilson's. Wilson's they
charge more. Wilson's charge more at Middlemore than they do

(46:48):
at Auckland Hospital, which is actually pretty low of them
because we all know that the people who live in
the middle More catchment are generally poorer than the people
who live in the Auckland catchment, right, And if you
live in the Auckland catchman, you've got more options to
be a to get to the hospital. You don't have
to take your car, take an uber, I don't know,
if you're feeling well enough, you can take one of
those little scooters. You can take a little bike, I
don't know, take a bus whatever. But if you're a

(47:09):
Middle More there's a completely different vibe. You don't have
a lot of those options available to you, right, So
them hiking up the price in Middlemore is stink and
they are frankly they are stink. They all la stink. Anyway,
I've pushed it too far. So what's happened is I've
had a lot of interaction lately with the medical fraternity,
as you know, because the husband tried to kill himself
with his heart the other day, and so I spent
a lot of time seeing him at the hospital, and

(47:30):
then of course I went and had a baby, so
I spent a lot of time at the hospital and
obstetricians and stuff with that. And it turns out, unfortunately,
the same company was running the car parks in both places.
So I started getting a lot of tickets because I
didn't realize at the husband's hospital that he actually had
to I didn't realize at the first instance that he
actually had to pay for it because it was after

(47:51):
ours blah blah, being naive and I was frankly worried. Right,
So anyway, I go in and I just don't pay
for my car parking, and so I could get tickets.
So I write to them and I'm like, your as
I've told you a thousand times to do, your tickets
are over the top. I'm not gonna pay this. You
can have this money here you go buy and so
I thought I'd sorted that out. Then I start getting
tickets at the other place that I'm going to for

(48:11):
the cobsentetrician, And the most recent one was because I
went in when I was pregnant and that they were
worried that that there was something wrong with the baby.
So they strapped me in, get me on this little
machine for half an hour, and then they were like,
you need to go immediately and go get blood tests
over the road. So in all of the kerfuffle worrying
about the health of your baby, I ran over my
time with the car park and didn't realize that I
could back pay, and blah blah blah whatever, and I

(48:33):
left and they sent me. They sent me a notice
and I wrote to them and I was like, this
is what I'm paying you this part no more and
they were like, you owe us more. And I was like, no, no, no,
you can stop communicating with me. That I consider this
matter closed. And then they said to me, if you
ever park in any of our car parks ever again,
we will tell you. So now now smart ask me,

(48:54):
I have the uber if I want to go to
these places because I don't want or I have to
get another car because I don't want them tow my car.
So that's backfired on me badly, isn't it. So maybe
you think twice before you followed my advice when it
comes to the car parking. Now anyway, headline's next.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
To you.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
On the iHeart app and in your car on your
drive home, it's hither duplicy ellan drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected news talks that'd be soon.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
TASM will pose.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Very well, Leather. You need to lock out and get
your number plate off the public register and that way
they can't officially find you. Kevin, I tried. It doesn't
work anyway. Anyway, listen, there is a little bit more
on this. We will get to that. We'll get to
that before this half hour through just a quick update
apparently read this measles case that is proving a bit
of a worry for the health authority. Seventy eight people
are in quarantine. There are hundreds of close contacts identified.

(49:53):
Isn't it like the good old days of COVID twenty
four away from six now Auckland FC's got the premier's
plate in the but now for the next bit. It's
the playoff run. It starts tomorrow against the Melbourne victory
in Melbourne. Steve Corriker is Auckland FC's head coach.

Speaker 20 (50:07):
He Steve, Hi, are you?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
I'm very well? Thank you. You must be feeling super confident.

Speaker 21 (50:13):
You're super confident and looking forward to it as well
as a very exciting time for us to be first
year in the job and in our first semi final.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Have you ever gone into a playoff series feeling this
confident and with such an amazing track griggal behind you.

Speaker 21 (50:30):
I probably have before we were in Sydney. When I
was there we won the double that year. But I
think you don't want to be too over confident. I
think you know we did a fantastic job during the
season to win the premiership in our first year, but
you know, the finals are a different ball game and
we have to respect the team that we're going to
be playing against on Saturday, and we don't want any

(50:52):
complacency from our team. We have to make sure that
we're ready for the challenge ahead.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Mate, being involved as you are as the head coach,
have you stopped and just reflected on what a remarkable
thing this year that this year has been that you
guys have set up a team and you've got all
the way to this point already and won the Premiers played.

Speaker 21 (51:13):
Not really yet. I think the ball's still going at
the moment. We're still focusing on the semi finals, and
you know, our main aim is to get to the
final and do the double in our first year. That
would be something amazing.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
But right now.

Speaker 21 (51:26):
We're just going at the flow, obviously preparing for the
next game, and I think at the end of the season,
hopefully we will have two trophies and we can really
reflect and you know, we hear from a lot of
people how you know, the communities come together that we're
doing such a great job for the community, and that's
very nice to hear.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
I ask this of everybody that I talked to about
this team, and I'm going to ask this of you,
How the hell has this happened? Like, what has Bill
Foley got? What is this business model that he talks
about that works?

Speaker 21 (51:57):
It looks like whatever he touches turns the goals. So yeah, no,
I think, you know, the most important thing is bringing
in the right people, good people as well, people that
are hungry to succeed and to win for us, and
obviously they've got to be good footballers as well. So
I think we've got a really good blend of players
and coaching staff.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
So you're saying, Okay, it's talented people, but it's people
with something to prove as well. Of course.

Speaker 21 (52:25):
You know, I think for me, every year you've got
something to prove.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
You know.

Speaker 21 (52:29):
I think it's just having that mentality to always try
and keep winning. You know, this is our first year,
so you know it's it's probably an easy one because
it's a startup club. We've done something only one of
the club in the A League has ever done, which
is wondrous. You know, they got to the final as
well in their first year and they lost. So our

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aim is to go one better and to try and
clinch the double.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Why are the tickets so expensive? By the way, this
is what people are talking aboutout it's run by the APL.
Now it's not from our club, but you know, I'm
sure definitely next week our supporters will get right behind us,
be a full stadium at go Media.

Speaker 21 (53:06):
They've put in extra seats for that, and yeah, we're
looking forward to coming home and hopefully been in a
good position to give ourselves the best chance to win.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Steve, good luck. I don't think you need it, but
good luck. Thank you so much, Steve Courrik Auckland, the
FC head coach. Hey, by the way, Andrew Little with
us after six o'clock, I'll explain why shortly.

Speaker 10 (53:24):
It's twenty two the Friday Sports with New Zealand Southeby's
International Realty Find You're one of a kind, going out.

Speaker 7 (53:38):
The planks and lend us Celebrations figures.

Speaker 11 (53:45):
A league premierss given it a Ryan Ryan Fox f fantastic.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
Hollol Bernie been the first playoff hole.

Speaker 21 (53:56):
I'm delighted that Naples has ended up coming out on top.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
It's a great city, it's a great sailing venue.

Speaker 18 (54:02):
It'll be a wonderful location for the next America's Cup.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Right on the Sports title with Us this evening, Abby
Wilson one new sports edit and Jim Kaye's producer of
the Breakdown at sky TV.

Speaker 13 (54:11):
Hi U too good?

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I hello, Abby? What do you reckon?

Speaker 18 (54:16):
Is the key?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Hungry players?

Speaker 8 (54:17):
Like?

Speaker 3 (54:17):
Is that more important than talent? Hunger over talent?

Speaker 17 (54:21):
Well, I think it's a bit of both.

Speaker 22 (54:22):
Like they got hungry players in those hungry players have
shown their talent and now they still have that hunger.
And I guess the point to prove not just you know,
to win the A League, but also to this team
that had faith in them. Like you think of players
like Francis de Freeze right was playing club football. He
comes to Auckland FC does really well back in the
all Whites fold and so you know, you want to

(54:45):
reward people who batch you, don't you if your players
like that, And so I think there is that hunger.
I went to training this week, which I haven't done
all season, and I was impressed, like they were into it.
They were aggressive, they were not holding back, and I
don't doubt that there's a lot of hunger.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Is Abby is Alex Poulsen off next season?

Speaker 17 (55:03):
Yeah yep.

Speaker 22 (55:05):
I mean he's made such a difference as that that
goalie for them.

Speaker 17 (55:09):
But I mean it was an interesting way how he
ended up there.

Speaker 22 (55:11):
Remember he was with the Phoenix, Bill Foley signs into
his you know, a foreign team and then he ends
up at the Yorklean. See he's made a major difference.
It'll be interesting next year how they go. But again
he also you know, would want to go out in
the high Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Probably, Oh well, i'd imagine absolutely. Jim, are you how
I mean, you've you've seen a fair few seasons of everything,
haven't you? How impressed are you at this lot?

Speaker 23 (55:33):
It's just incredible And I mean your question to Steve
was on the money, how how on earth have they
done what they've done?

Speaker 24 (55:40):
And not just on the field but in.

Speaker 23 (55:41):
The stands and you know, everywhere you turn someone's wearing
an AFC shirt or a capper the further and the
support is incredible. Someone one day will write a thesis
on it and we might get a bit of an
insight into it.

Speaker 24 (55:58):
But it is a amazing.

Speaker 23 (56:00):
I've not seen anything like this in New Zealand for
a club team like this. I mean we see it
for things like a World Cup, you know, the Cricket
World Cup, the Rugby World Cup.

Speaker 24 (56:09):
We used to see it for the America's Cup.

Speaker 23 (56:10):
We're going to talk about that soon, say ninety five,
and those sorts of things. But for a club like this,
I've not seen anything like it. It's quite staggering and
it's wonderful. Like it's easy to get excited for them,
isn't it.

Speaker 8 (56:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Totally. Now, speaking of the America's Cup. Jym So, I
was listening to somebody this morning having a giant winge
about fact that the America then ten New Zealand is
sailing in Italy and it's helmed by an Australian. So
is it even a New Zealand team, to which I say, no,
it's not. It's Grant Dalton's team. Are we ever going
to stop banging on about this?

Speaker 24 (56:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (56:42):
Who cares?

Speaker 24 (56:43):
I mean, it's an international sport. It's an international team.

Speaker 23 (56:46):
That person they're talking about is Marrita. Quious kids are
Kiwis and he lives in New Zealand. So I don't
know what qualifies it nowadays as being a New Zealander.
But look, this has been an international team for an
extremely long time. It's like, I'm not a sailor, but
this is a very different boat that they sail compared
to the boats of you know, two or three America's

(57:06):
Cups to go And some people get really upset about that. Well, okay,
if you're going to get upset, then then don't watch it,
don't follow it.

Speaker 24 (57:13):
You know, don't get interested in it. I mean it's you.

Speaker 23 (57:16):
Know, it's like complaining that formula one has gone to
cars that were faster than they were in nineteen seventy six.

Speaker 24 (57:21):
Okay, you know it's I think Tim's.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Bang on here, Abby. I mean, I feel like people
just I feel like the America. I feel like people
read about the America's Cup and they are primed to
get annoyed.

Speaker 22 (57:33):
Yeah they are, I mean, but I would also say
that the interest levels have gone down since it sailed
off shore. And so I think if your team New Zealand,
you have to accept that making decisions like this, it
alienates you further and further from the New Zealand public.
Now they'd argue that they've made these decisions to win,
and winners get supporters, and so it's sort of a cycle.

(57:53):
But I yeah, I think it's the minute they went
to Barcelona for that defense, that ship sailed. I think
they sailed away from you know, being in hearts of
New Zealanders really and maybe now it's just the real
die hard sailors who are really invested in a team
which is less and less a representation of New undred percent.

Speaker 23 (58:12):
And I'd argue that they don't care. They have zero
interested in what the New Zealand sporting fan cares.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
About yeah, and we win.

Speaker 22 (58:19):
They are winning as well, aren't they? And so is
that more important than sports.

Speaker 24 (58:23):
For themselves and their sponsors and everyone else?

Speaker 23 (58:25):
And whether you know, I mean the Red Sox campaign,
it's a long time ago. They're a professional outfit. They
don't give two hoots what the New Zealand public thinks.

Speaker 24 (58:34):
And they'll sell. They'll sell anywhere where they're going to
make a dollar.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
Yeah, absolutely agree. All right, quarter two, we'll take a break,
come back to you guys shortly.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
The Friday sports title with New Zealand South of East
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Speaker 3 (58:49):
Okay, sports tititles back with us, and I just cannot
get excited about the Sky Apparently Jim is bringing back
televised first fifteen rugby. Who watches televised first fifteen rugby?

Speaker 23 (59:00):
Loads of people, you'd be very surprised, loads and loads
of people.

Speaker 24 (59:04):
If you're a kid at the school, you're a parent
of grant.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Are you're saying this because you're employed at Sky.

Speaker 23 (59:09):
No, I'm saying it because that's not the numbers show.
And it only went away when the one A pulled
out of the deal and said we don't want it.

Speaker 24 (59:17):
On TV.

Speaker 23 (59:19):
These are the same schools, mind you, that are quite
happy to poach players from other schools and bring back
students a year fourteens so that they've got better teams.

Speaker 24 (59:27):
So where their morals are I'm not really sure.

Speaker 23 (59:30):
And not just in rugby and rowing and lots of
other sports as well.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
But no, no.

Speaker 24 (59:34):
Answer your question.

Speaker 23 (59:34):
There's a strong interest in first fifteen rugby boys and girls,
and you know Sky would not be Sky doesn't put
on Telly things that people don't want to watch.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
This is a convincing argument, Abby, But do you sit
down and watch it?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
No?

Speaker 22 (59:52):
But Heather, you and I don't have children who play
first atene rugby. We probably didn't play first fifteen rugby ourselves.
But I was in Central Otago of the weekend and
went along Saturday morning sport and was reminded how big
rugby is in the regions, especially the entire community revolves
around it. Everyone's there, everyone's talking about it, and it's
sort of it is that beating heart of the community

(01:00:14):
from start.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
Are you I know the kids that you went to
see and neither none of them are in the first
fifteen age.

Speaker 22 (01:00:21):
No, but all the families then went on to watch
First fifteen, and so what I'm saying is it's a
big yeah, and they know what school dad went to
in Grandpa and so there's all that sort of those
links around the space.

Speaker 17 (01:00:33):
Are you're going to watch it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Are you telling me that there were families who went
to watch the first fifteen who don't even have kids
at that school or kids in that team.

Speaker 17 (01:00:41):
Yep, but maybe they have a link or they're involved.

Speaker 23 (01:00:43):
With that time have been at Eden Park when a
school's game played Curtain Raiser to an NPC game and
three quarters of the crowd left after the school's game.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
No, I'm getting to schooled on this because Jim I
thought about this. I thought, you can't even get me
to watch Super Rugby. Why the hell am I tuning
in for firse fifteen? But you're telling me this is
potentially more successful and it's.

Speaker 24 (01:01:05):
A great product.

Speaker 23 (01:01:06):
It's a good style of rugby, it's a it's a
more free flowing style of rugby.

Speaker 24 (01:01:11):
It's highly entertaining.

Speaker 23 (01:01:14):
Honestly, it gets watched and and you know, as Zambi said,
for those people who are involved in the school or
have been involved in the school, they love watching the
old school they love watching their current school.

Speaker 24 (01:01:24):
They love watching their.

Speaker 23 (01:01:25):
Son or daughter, grandson, granddaughter, those sorts of things playing
for their school.

Speaker 24 (01:01:29):
There's a huge amount of pride.

Speaker 23 (01:01:31):
Come on, you know, if you're from christ Church, the
first thing you laughed anyone is what school did you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
But that's not you know, it's not always a good thing,
but so here.

Speaker 22 (01:01:41):
That you're probably just not target audience, I guess, is
the bottom line.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
And then but once So what you're saying is once
the kids hit that age and I am target audience,
then I'm hooked for life on first of all, life, Yeah,
for life life.

Speaker 24 (01:01:54):
You were right, Abby and Jim and I was wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Yeah, and ab these kids are the same, Abbe. Your
kids are like roughly the same age as my kids.
So we're gonna have a rivalry. A. It's going to
be north Shore, Yeah, totally, It's gonna be the whole way. Abby. Listen,
I know you people are big into the golf in
your family. Did you did you?

Speaker 20 (01:02:10):
We are?

Speaker 11 (01:02:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Did you expect that Ryan was going to do as
well as he's doing.

Speaker 22 (01:02:15):
I am backed him in my sweep steak And can
I just tell you why? Because sometimes I think when
you've got nothing to lose and nothing to prove. That's
the best way to play golf. Yeah, he wasn't expected
to play at the event. He's just had a breakthrough
when he probably hasn't had the preparation he should have
had for a major, and so you go out there
and you probably play with a bit of freedom.

Speaker 17 (01:02:35):
And enjoyment that you don't normally have.

Speaker 22 (01:02:38):
Whether he can string four wonderful rounds together is the
real test. But if I mean, as long as it's
not really really low scoring over the four rounds, if
there's a few challenges, some conditions, things like that, I
think he could do quite well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
What do you reckon, Jim?

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
I love him.

Speaker 23 (01:02:55):
I think he's a sort of sports person that Kiori's
loved to get him behind. He loves a beer and
loves good loves to go fishing with his mates, plays
golf with a little bit of carefree abandoned. You know
the shot that won that won the PGA tournament the
other week, Yeah, he gave it a feroh tog and
it just went straight.

Speaker 24 (01:03:14):
The whole way. You know, at work, everyone was hooping
and hollering.

Speaker 23 (01:03:17):
I think he's great. He's a breath of fresh air
for his yellow sport. He's been around a while, but
you know what I mean, or power to him. I
hope he wins as many things as you can.

Speaker 24 (01:03:27):
He seems to be very very popular.

Speaker 23 (01:03:28):
Guys Rory McElroy rate him, are friends with him. He's
great for the sport and he's a he's a fun
loving Kiwi sportsman.

Speaker 24 (01:03:36):
More pouty.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Yeah, it's good to support him. Hey, guys, thank you
so much. Enjoy yourselves, have a good weekend. This Abbie
Wilson won New Sports HiT's a jim Ka's producer of
the Breakdown at sky TV. Heather stick to parking fines,
you're rubbish at Sports Commentary. Heather, Schoolboy rugby is far
better than Super Rugby and the All Blacks because the
kids don't win. Heather, you know, jack shite. Schoolboy rugby

(01:03:58):
is the best. Okay, I got it. Seven away from six.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
It'd be Hither.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
I don't have kids. It's great rugby. Hither. I'm seventy
three and I love Okay, I'll get it. I'll get it.
Maybe I'll try watching it. Maybe I'll try watching it, okay,
cause super Rugby sucks, so maybe I'll do that. Five
away from six. Hey, listen, have you heard of something
called normal marital hatred? So this is doing the rounds online.
It's a therapist called Terry Reel talking about normal marital hatred.

Speaker 25 (01:04:34):
The father of Couples to Be back in the fifties said,
the day you turn to the person who's next to
you and you say, this is a mistake I've been had,
This is not the person I fell in love with,
that said FRAMO is the first day of your real marriage.
So here's what I want to say about this harmony.
It hurts, it's dark. You can really really feel like,

(01:04:56):
what the hell did I get myself into?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
This is so a disappointment.

Speaker 25 (01:05:01):
And guess what your partner's probably feeling.

Speaker 26 (01:05:03):
That about you too.

Speaker 25 (01:05:04):
I talk about normal marital hatred. When you're in that
dark face, you hate your partner. That's okay, It's part
of the deal for many of it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Now, apparently he is yet to meet anyone who disagrees
with him when he talks about it. No one's like,
what is that. They're all like, yeah, that's a thing. Now,
I just want to be clear with you. This came
from the Laura, the German. I did not bring this
to your attention. She said, have you seen this thing? Now?
Did this pop up on your Facebook? On your Facebook?

(01:05:36):
Why is Facebook serving you this? Because you know it's
based on are you it's based on algorithms. Didn't you
get served that book as well? That's like how not
to hate your partner after kids? You didn't get served
that book? Oh that was me am, all my friends
and that's sold out in New Zealand as well. By
the way, one of my friends, Emma, not naming any names.
Emma try to buy it because she couldn't anyway, just

(01:05:58):
saying Facebook is sending us a lot of very dark
stuff about our partners. Facebook. You need to stop immediately. Facebook.
We need a ban on social media use for anybody
under the age of sixty anyway, Sorry about that. Laura's husband,
Andrew Little's with us. Next because Tory, because you know
what she's like. She's signing all these contracts for the

(01:06:19):
Golden Mile to tie his hands when he becomes men,
which is probably what's going to happen. He's going to
talk to us about that. Next news talks EDB.

Speaker 7 (01:06:28):
Person over again.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Even in coming up in the next hour, Peter Lewis
on what happens next in that US China trade, will
Gavin Grays with US out of the UK and Jason
wools will wrap the political week that was at seven
past six. Now Andrew Little is calling on Tory Fino
to stop signing contracts to tie his hands. The Wellington
mayor has indicated that she will deliberately stile sign contracts
for the Golden Mile so that he will keep going

(01:07:07):
with the project if he becomes the mayor and he's
with us. Now, hey, Andrew, do you know I mean
this is something she said she would do, But is
she actually signing any contracts?

Speaker 26 (01:07:16):
I don't know, and I don't have it really a
way of knowing unless they announce it. But I just
think there's you know, she's not going to be the
mayor after the addiction she's stood aside. Who knows she's
going to be on council. But given the significance of
the project and how sensitive it is and some of
the issues that particularly business have expressed about it, and
not being opposed to it, but just a level of

(01:07:37):
disruption that could cause. It's a project that should just
have a rule run over it reviewed, see whether it's
phased right and staged right and all the rest of it.
And for that reason, the Council shouldn't be entering into
contracts for the later stages until the new Council has
had a chance to look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Did you make a mistake do you think by saying
that you will not get out of any contracts that
are signed between now and the election.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
No, not at all.

Speaker 26 (01:08:01):
Well, it's pretty hard to do that without incurring massive
legal costs because the other party to the contract could
see for specific performance. I don't want Counsel to be
tied up in a whole bunch of legal rangers. They've
had enough as it is. But I do think the
current Council it is within their powers collectively to make
sure that, given the changed council landscape after the election,

(01:08:22):
to put things on hold and then for things to
be reviewed after that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
Now, she says in a statement to us, well, candidates
may have their own views. They do not have the
mandate to demand that our council cease progress on any
democratically agreed upon projects. What do you say to that?

Speaker 26 (01:08:37):
Yeah, look, that's technically correct. But I just think there's
the whole thing about the Golden Mile and the implementation
of it is a political issue. It's an election issue,
and there's a lot of disquiet about it, and it's
a business community down that CBD who are under real
pressure at the moment. So I just think if the
Council is doing its job, it is you know, hearing

(01:09:01):
what is going on, reading the room, and taking the
right steps and waiting till the new Council gets in
and can make the longer term decision.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Andrew, is it possible that you may have to renege
on that promise not to break any of these contracts
or go back on any of these contracts? I mean,
is it possible that you may actually have to do
that depending on what happens.

Speaker 26 (01:09:20):
Only if there was sort of completely outrageous things in
the contracts. Contracts or contracts that's you know, you're and
everybody's laws go over them with a fine toothed cone.
I don't want I'm certainly not going to promise if
I'm elected as meyor to put the Council in the
position where they then going to be spending years defending
their actions in courts because they've decided to break contracts.

(01:09:42):
But I think that the real answer isn't you know
over going to break contracts? Is it is within the
power of the Council now over the next five months
is to just stop and say, look, things are going
to change after the eleventh of October, whoever is mere
and that's a time for a new council with a
new man data total look at everything and make sure
that we're sensitive to the needs of the businesses up

(01:10:05):
and down the Golden Mile.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
Andrew, it's good to talk to you. Thank you so
much mate. That's Andrew too Little Wellington mayor or candidate
James Comey. I don't know if you've seen this, but
James Comy is in trouble. You know, the for but
FBI director. He's under investigation from the Secret Service because
of something he's put on social media. Once again, I
will reiterate, adults need to take themselves off social media.
You're not that clever, No one cares and you get

(01:10:28):
yourself in trouble. And here's a case in point. He
went on a little walk on the beach and he
put an instagram, Oh look, it's a cool shell formation
on my beach walk. And what it was was shells
in the shape of eighty six forty seven. Now eighty
six means to throw out, to get rid of, to
refuse service too, but it is also considered to mean
to kill, So eighty six means to kill, forty seven

(01:10:51):
means the forty seventh President of the United States being
Donald Trump. So he's just written in shell talk killed
Donald Trump. He think up on social media, as you
would imagine, he's removed it. He said, didn't mean to
do that, but now he's under investigation from the Secret Service.
So yeah, there we go, cool guy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Twelve past six, it's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive
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Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Just reminder, Peter Lewis is going to talk us through
the US China trade deal when he's with us in
about twenty minutes time right now, it's coming up quarter
past six. Now, wrapping the political week that was, we
have our political editor Jason Walls welcome back, Jason, Thank
you very much. Right Seaword, who comes out of this
debate the worst?

Speaker 14 (01:11:34):
Oh, it's an interesting question because you ask a thousand people,
you get a thousand, Well, you probably won't get a
thousand different answers.

Speaker 13 (01:11:40):
You probably get three or four.

Speaker 14 (01:11:41):
But to be honest, I think the Labor Party comes
out of the worst of this one because of such
bad political management. It was them that introduced the question
into the House and it was because of that that
the sea word was even there in the first I mean,
Andrea Vance's column is the reason why it was introduced
to the political rhetoric this week. But if they didn't

(01:12:01):
ask that question, which Chris Hipkins later said it was
a mistake, then none of this would have ever happened.
And it has really and I'm sure you'll agree, it's
really shifted the attention away from the issue of pay
equity and really to this idea of sort of misogyny
towards right wing women within New Zealand's Parliament. So I
think the Labor Party comes off looking the worst here,

(01:12:22):
despite the fact that it was Brooke that said it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
I mean, do you think that because this was the
first opportunity that National had to actually make themselves look
like the National Anacts, by the way, to make themselves
look like the victims will shift the argument away. Do
they come out of it looking like victims? I mean,
I'm not entirely convinced that right wing women can play
victims very well, because they generally tend to be quite
strong characters.

Speaker 13 (01:12:43):
Well, I think it's almost irrelevant at this point.

Speaker 14 (01:12:45):
I think that the NAT's and Act will just be
happy with the fact that they're not people screaming from
the rooftops You're cunning women's pay, because they've managed to
shift the narrative. And I think that's why that it's
sort of like the brick bat of the week has
to go to the Labor Party for letting this happen
in terms of the narrative in the House.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Okay, hey, listen, have you got to the bottom of
what the hell went wrong with Jerry Brownlee this week
and why he's gone soft on the punishment.

Speaker 14 (01:13:08):
Jerry brown Well, I mean, at the end of the day,
the Speaker is the speaker, and the ruling that the
Speaker makes is sacrasant in terms of the way that
he runs the Parliament. But there could be people that
look at it to say, you know, the Privileges Committee
has essentially.

Speaker 13 (01:13:23):
They've suggested a.

Speaker 14 (01:13:24):
Twenty one day ban based off the Tipati Marti co
leaders in seven days for Hannah Rapti might be clark
based on their actions in the House and to a
lesser extent, but probably didn't help their actions outside the
House when it came to sort of breaching that privilege.
So I'm really interested to see what happens on Tuesday,
because at the end of the day, the fate of
the MP's are now up to their other MPs in

(01:13:46):
the House. I mean, Jerry Browne did make the point
within his ruling on a Thursday that the committee was
very evenly split and it was only just the twenty
one day ban was by a slim margin.

Speaker 13 (01:13:59):
So it's gonna be lively debate.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Yeah, but and correct me if I'm wrong, But my
understanding of this is that it's going to be a
very long debate as well, because he's given everybody the
opportunity to speak on this and multiple times as well,
so they could fill a bus to the heck out
of it.

Speaker 14 (01:14:14):
And if your te party, Marti, why wouldn't you I
mean this, if you see this as your last opportunity
to be in the house where every single news camera
and microphone is on you, you'd be filibustering this till
the cows come home. And don't forget that we have
the budget next week as well. So Chris Bishop actually
stood up and seemed quite nervous about the government's legislative
e gender with this actually going to basically.

Speaker 13 (01:14:35):
Being shoehorned in and being the one thing that people
will be.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
Focusing So tell me something, though, is this the last
sitting week of parliament.

Speaker 13 (01:14:41):
Next week for it? Yes? So the budget is always
lasted on Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
What happens because presumably they're gonna they're going to debate
this punishment on Tuesday and Wednesday. It could potentially go
on for longer than that, couldn't it. And then they
start doing the budget on Thursday. Then do they come
back to it? Do they start do they go into Friday?

Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
Well, I mean that's the thing.

Speaker 14 (01:15:01):
The Parliament will probably be in urgency I would imagine
on Friday and into Saturday as well, as the government
looks to get some of its legislation in the government through.
That was sort of the indication that we got from
Chris Bishop in the House on Thursday, and he told
Kieran mcinnalty there's a cute little exchange about how they
might have to have a beer together on Saturday night.

Speaker 13 (01:15:20):
So that was me hearing that it's going to be interourgency.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Okay, now the Greens, how does Chippy feel? Have you
read Chippy's vibes? Have you got? Have you have you since?
Whether this is upset has zin.

Speaker 14 (01:15:33):
Well, on the surface, he's not going to give much
away and he in fact, he didn't really rule anything
in or out.

Speaker 13 (01:15:39):
But I thought it was interesting.

Speaker 14 (01:15:40):
I was listening to your huddle earlier in the week
with I think was Jack Tame and with David Farrier,
and he made this really interesting point. He said that
he pulls the drag that other leaders have on the
main leaders, and when it comes to Winston Peters and
David Seymour, the Nats actually kind of like them. If
you're a national voter's voter, you kind of like Seymour
and you kind of like Winston Shoe. On the other foot,

(01:16:01):
with the left, labor voters do not like the Greens
and they do not like Tea Party.

Speaker 13 (01:16:06):
Marty's leaders.

Speaker 14 (01:16:06):
So this is an interesting conundrum for Chris Hipkins because
no way can he let any of these policies come through.
I mean, forty four billion dollars of extra borrowing and
eighty eight billion dollars of extra taxes. It's just not
going to happen under any sort of iteration of labor government.
But he's got to worry because now, if you were
the NATS at this stage, you'd be starting to paint

(01:16:27):
these three as the sort of the same party in
the same coalition, which is really going to damage them,
according to that poll from David Farrier.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Jason, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Jason Wall's political
lidatary at Newstalks. He'd be wrapping the political week there
was at twenty past.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Six together du the cl I see.

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
Wayne Brown has got himself well, he hasn't got himself
in trouble. People are getting upset with him. I think
that's for Wayne, that's probably a regular thing, so he's
probably not all too stressed about it. But this time
they're upset with him for so called migrant bashing. Because
what happened was he was at that super City conference
the other day and he said that because Auckland is
such a big deal. Auckland should get more say on
immigration numbers and quote, what types of people we are

(01:17:05):
getting we need to be replacing young people going away.
We don't need any more Uber drivers, we need other
things this time. Now, normally I would kind of just
on the face of a degree with him, of course
we don't need more Uber drivers, we need other things.
But interesting experience today in the Uber So it's coming
into work and the Uber drivers started chatting to me,

(01:17:27):
and you know, I just asked how business is going.
I feel like Uber is always quite a good litmus
test for how a regional or even a national economy
is going. And he said to me, actually, I'm not
really an Uber driver. I'm a financial strategist. And what
had happened was he was a financial strategist. The business
closed down or outsourced or did whatever it did, and he,

(01:17:47):
amongst many others, lost their jobs.

Speaker 20 (01:17:49):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
They were cost cutting like many businesses have had to
do in the last fee while. And so basically you
got stung by the recession. He was an immigrant, by
the way, just for context here, so he obviously, how
many is a financial strategist lost his job decided he
needed to uber drive just to pay the mortgage, he said,
but now he's having to work instead of a normal
working week in the Uber, he has to work seventy
plus hours. He said. Today he'd already done sixty plus

(01:18:12):
hours for the week when he picked me up around
about lunchtimeish, So he said, by the end of the
week he'll have done seventy plus hours just to be
able to pay his mortgage. So what I would say is,
I just don't think it's as clear cut at the moment,
because at the moment, what we have is a lot
of people. And my husband noticed this. He was like,
have you noticed the quality of the cars. Uber cars
are really good at the moment, And immediately I thought, yeah,

(01:18:32):
Uber cars are good at the moment because these are
people who don't normally Uber drive, the people who actually
had other jobs who've lost their jobs. So a lot
of Uber drivers out there who are qualified with other things.
So don't be too harsh weighing on the Uber drivers,
because we might need to get them to stay here
so that they can do the financial strategist stuff that
they actually came here to do. Six twenty two croaging.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
The numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
It's hither duplic ellen with the business hour and mass
insurance and investments, grow your wealth, take your future.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
Please talk sa'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Okay some point. Hither my friend is a plastic surgeon
from overseas. He's an uber driver. He's waiting to pass
his exam so that he can practice in New Zealand.
So there we go, six twenty five. Listen on this
thing that I told you a round about an hour
ago about me getting into trouble with everybody's assuming it's Wilson.
It's not Wilson's Car Parking. But I'm not naming the
car parking company because I feel like that would be
an abuse of my position to just smack talk them

(01:19:25):
on the radio. So they don't need it. Everybody hates
them anyway.

Speaker 13 (01:19:30):
They're a car fucking company.

Speaker 7 (01:19:33):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Anyway, So everybody has been telling me on the text.
So what I need to do is change my license plates. Hither,
reregister your car to get another number plate on it. Hither,
what about changing your number plate? It's only about fourteen dollars,
I think, Neil, thank you. You know I love cheap things.
Here that it sounds like it's time to get a
personalized plate on your car. You READIO new Life on
the car parking, Thank you Reese. Hither you need to
complain your number plate has been stolen, Get yourself a

(01:19:55):
new number plate. Wilson's won't ever clear? Wasn't Wilson's was
the other one? Hither? Why don't you just go to
VTNZ and get yourself a new number plate? Hither get
new number plates for your car? Mike's everybody's got everybody's
onto it, so because then what can happen is I
could just start my journey with this particular company again
and they won't know, so they won't be able to
tow me. Thank you. I really appreciate this information from AMA.

(01:20:16):
Should do that might be worth it because I certainly
get getting your car back from towing isn't cost the
hell of a lot more than fourteen dollars, isn't it?
And the worst bit about it is I kind of
know where not to park because of the two places
I've been pinging before. But what about if they're running
a car park I didn't know about, and what are
they looking for me?

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
What about if I part I don't know? Let's just
go to drive down to Palmerston North for whatever it is,
and I don't know, trip to parme pull into a
car park. What if they're running the park the hotel
car park at Palmiston North. I pull in there, then
they go, oh, there she is, There she is. We've
been waiting for her, Go and get her. Toe her.
I just feel like they're out to get me. It's
probably not nearly like that, but just in case. Now listen,

(01:20:53):
do you remember come Alt Santa Maria who hosted TVNZ
Breakfast for all of about thirty two days. I wouldn't
supposed if you don't remember him because it was a
short stint. But anyway, that guy, he's taking TV and
Z to the era over this. And he has now
released a bunch of messages that his colleagues was sending
about him. And the reason he's released it is to

(01:21:14):
illustrate that there was a significant level of host of
animosity towards him. He got them via a Privacy Act request.
It's just these are not all of them. It's just
a taste, but this is the kind of thing. There
were comments about his race race somebody said, man, so
many stories about the Niaina Carmel that's the Mardi word
for Indian. Some obviously were not happy that he was

(01:21:36):
hired instead of a Maori broadcaster. For example, where was
the consultation, How can we align this appointment with the
Maori strategy and see if there was a super Mali
out there who we could have recruited. It's the kind
of messages they're sending to each other. Somebody said it
had Kamal's dull fingerprints all over it. It was such
shit tally. Somebody else said, O mg, Kamal sounds very camp.

(01:21:56):
And then even after he left, somebody said, if I
ever c Carmel sands Maria on the street, I will
dot dot dot sounds cool, aim friendly, really welcoming.

Speaker 18 (01:22:06):
Wow.

Speaker 27 (01:22:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
It's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
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Speaker 8 (01:22:35):
I think Guylan Tomstone, where are no longer go?

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
And I want you run away now?

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
Grow the persons.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Bustard allegedly you know, fire bombing kir Starmer over in
the UK. Turns out that person is Ukrainian Gavin Gray's
gonna fill us in shortly. Heither, if you do that
and change your Red Joe, then you're gonna have to
when you got to sell your car, you're gonna have
to convince the potential buyer that your car was not
written off. Well, there is that. That's a downside. Although
I think if I tell them my amazing yarn about

(01:23:05):
me versus the parking company, do you think they'll be
sympathetic to that? They might come around. They might go,
that's believable. Oh by your car. Anyway, look at wonderful Nikotin,
except for how you've rimmed the wheels and scratched it
all over and the kids of Yeah, it's a state
twenty four away from seven. Ever, Peter Lewis, our Asia
business correspondent, is with me right now, Hey, Peter, Good evening, Heather, Now,

(01:23:29):
Peter on this US China trade war. This thing is
settled down for ninety days. But is that all or
is this the start of the end.

Speaker 28 (01:23:38):
I think there's still a long way to go. And
the way it's sort of been painted in social media
and state media up in China is that this was
a complete climbed down by Donald Trump. He agreed to
reduce tarots by one hundred and fifteen percent. China matched that,
but didn't have to do anything else whatsoever. And they

(01:23:59):
probably do have a point because you have to say, well,
what was the point of all of this to put
all these tariffs on effectively and trade between the US
and China, then take the tariffs off, but get no
concessions whatsoever from China. And I think this is only
just the beginning of what could happen over the next

(01:24:19):
ninety days. Already the US is talking about trying to
blacklist some semiconductor companies in China and technology companies, which
is going to irritate them immensely and makes it more
difficult to have this discussion over the next ninety days.
And what we have to remember is that there are
still tariffs of thirty percent on China. So while they're

(01:24:42):
not these devastating tariffs are one hundred and forty thirty percent,
tariffs are still pretty high. So that is still going
to damage trade between the two countries. And I think
what's going to happen is that President Jjinping is going
to do has been doing over the last few years,
which is to create a global trading system that doesn't

(01:25:05):
include the US. He will diversify exports away from the
US and rely far more on countries in the Middle East,
in Southeast Asia, emerging markets, and he's already having some
success in that. Columbia only last week agreed to join
the Belton Roads Initiative, So already he's approaching a lot

(01:25:27):
of these developing nations and looking to sell the goods
that he would have sold to the US to those
nations instead. And I think that process is only going
to accelerate over the coming ninety days.

Speaker 3 (01:25:39):
Both sides claim that they have got the upper hand,
But who do you think has got the upper hand here?

Speaker 20 (01:25:44):
Well, I mean they're both right to a certain extent,
because this is damaging to China, for sure, and it
has flowed its economy, and it has caused problems for
its manufacturers, many of whom.

Speaker 28 (01:25:59):
Just can't survived with tariffs at that level. It puts
pressure on the unemployment rate in China, which is a
very sensitive issue domestically. So for sure, it called it
has caused problems for China, but I think they're in
a better position to withstand those problems. It's got a

(01:26:20):
huge domestic market it's got many ways in which it
can diversify its economy, boost domestic consumption to try and
offset the damage that's been done. Now the US, it's
also damaged its own economy. I mean, shipments to China
have collapsed virtually down to zero to the US have
collapsed virtually down to zero. And the issue for the

(01:26:44):
US is that it likes to blame China and other
countries for its trade deficits. But the reason why it
has huge trade deficits is because its own citizens don't
save enough and they want to buy all these goods
that China and other countries sell to them. They like them,
they want to pay for them, and that's what causes

(01:27:06):
the trade deficits. But it's going to be difficult for
the US as well because inflation will pick up over
the coming months. Retail sales are already slowing and we're
already seeing that in the latest data. So it's doing
damage to its own economy as well, but not getting
the benefits that Trump touted where all these manufacturers are

(01:27:27):
going to relocate to the US. We haven't seen very
much of that so far. Trump has also said we're
going to get huge revenues in from other countries to
play to pay for his tax cuts. Well, we're not
seeing signs of that either. So you know, he's put
these tariffs on, taken them off again, but not got
anywhere near close to getting all the benefits of those

(01:27:49):
tarots they touted in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:27:52):
The Trump the possible trade deal between Trump and Japan
is an interesting thing. Read the tariffs and the cars, right,
And I was reading about this as somebody made the
point that Trump thinks that Japan is a soft target.
Is he wrong?

Speaker 28 (01:28:05):
Yeah, he is wrong, And if anything, Japan is rather
stealing for a longer font here. They don't think they're
going to get a deal in ninety days, and they're
absolutely adamant that tariffs on cars have to come off
as part of that deal. It's two big exports to

(01:28:26):
the US, auto's and agricultural products. They are both two
very very sensitive issues for Japan. Prime Minister Ashiba has
got an election coming up very soon, and his popularity
has already plunged to below thirty percent, So he's got
a lot of domestic issues and he can't afford to

(01:28:48):
back down and give in on the two largest sectors
of exports to the US, So I think it's going
to be very, very difficult for Trump to get this
deal with Japan. I think it's also a very similar
situation for Indio. India also seems to be drawing a
line now as well. So these imminent trade deals that

(01:29:10):
Trump has touted with countries like Japan, South Korea, India,
I think are going to be struggle to get done
within the ninety days.

Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
Interesting. Hey, Peter, it's always lovely to talk to you.
Thank you so much. We'll talk to you in a
week and enjoy your weekend. That's Peter Lewis, our Asia
business correspondent. Hate tell you what has been a time
of late for Brentwith news has just come in that
two executives from Bremworth are leaving the business next week.
This is the chief operating Officer Nicholas Simpson and also
the chief Brand and Product Officer Rashelle Flint. Apparently they

(01:29:39):
have been reported by business desks both of them have
resigned in Their last days will be next Thursday. Now,
this comes after the departure of Greg Smith, the chief
executive last month and Brentworth doing a massive about turn
on the old synthetic carpets and after absolutely trashing synthetic
carpets in the media and in their ad campaigns and stuff.
Guess what's back synthetic carpets seventeen where from seven everything.

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News talks Envy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
Kevin Gray are UK correspondent is with me now, Hey Gevin?

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Hi there? Hell?

Speaker 3 (01:30:18):
Okay, So this chap is about appear in courtsy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Yes, Roman lavernoritch is his name is a Ukrainian national.
He's twenty one and has been charged in connection with
fires at two properties and a car linked to our
Prime Minister Sakir Starmer. Now he's been charged with three
counts of arson with intent to endanger life. He was
arrested in southeast London in the early hours of Tuesday

(01:30:43):
and we expect him at Westminster Magistrate's Court in the
heart of London in the next couple of hours. The
charges relate to three instances. So there was a vehicle
fire in Kentish Town in North London. This was a
vehicle that Sekir Starmer had sold before he became Prime
Minister to a neighbour. Then there was a at the
Prime Minister's private home on the same street. He no

(01:31:03):
longer is living there because although he owns it, it's
said to be rented out.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
He of course lives at the official address.

Speaker 4 (01:31:09):
In Downing Street. And then there was a fire at
an address that he had previously lived at in Northwest
London but no longer owned, but that involved fire officers
having to help people down the staircase using breathing apparatus. Anyway,
the Metropolitan Police's counter Terrorism Command unit is looking at
this due to links to a high profile figure. That's

(01:31:30):
all wea're being told at the moment. We may get
one or two more details in court.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
All very interesting. And now this chief suspect in Medler
McCain's disappearance is coming out of jail how much later
than originally shield.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
Well, Christian Bruckner is his name. We thought he was
coming out of jail in September, but that's been pushed
back to early next year. Why does that make a difference, Well,
because he is wanted for questioning about the Maddie McCann case.
Of course, Madeline McCann disappeared in Portugal with a fan
only holiday prior to lusion that resort there in two

(01:32:04):
thousand and seven. Now the fear is that when Christian
Bruckner is released from prison, he will leave the country
and go underground and basically disappear. He is a man
with a very very checkered history. He's currently in prison
convicted of raping a seventy two year old American tourist
in Portugal in two thousand and five, just two years

(01:32:25):
before Maddie McCown's disappearance. But he also has a number
of other past misdemeanors where he has been sentenced as
a child sex offender, forgery, drug theft, defense is a
history of sex offenses and a drifter being lived in
Portugal's Algarve region on and off for years. To be clear,
he has never been charged with anything in connection with

(01:32:47):
Maddie McCann. He equally says he's had nothing to do
with it. But he also has had a conviction overturned.
As it were, he was found not guilty of three
counts of rape and two counts of child sex abuse
and police are hoping to get an appeal underway for
that and the best way of doing that is, knowing

(01:33:07):
that he is already behind bars, so it looks like
he's going to stay there until January. And this believed
or not over an unpaid fine.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Kevin. So, why is it that the people who were
on board that luxury yacht that tipped over, why didn't
they know that the wind could do that?

Speaker 8 (01:33:22):
Yeah, it's a very very good question.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
So there is an investigation underway into the death of
the seven people, including the man called sort of Britain's
Bill Gates, the entrepreneur Mike Lynch, a billionaire, and six
other people. And they were off the coast of Sicily
when their luxury super yacht sunk in August last year.

(01:33:44):
So there is an investigation underway and they are also
in the process of raising the boat now. The interim
report being conducted by the UK's Marine Accident Investigation Branch,
that is because the yacht was registered in the UK,
says that wins of eighty miles an hour roughly one
hundred and twenty two kilometers per hour violently hit the vessel,

(01:34:05):
causing it to flood within seconds. There had been questions
about where the windows had been open and the hatch
had been left open, but actually this injuring report suggests no.
It suggests that the yacht was not to a ninety
degree angle within fifteen seconds. At four in the morning.
The crew heard there was a storm on the way

(01:34:25):
and were busy trying to prepare for that, but simply
didn't have time. Some pretty harrowing evidence as well about
how those on boarder tries to use furniture as a
ladder to try and get out of their cabins, but
as we know, so many did not succeed, although fifteen
people did manage to escape. But nevertheless, how more details
coming out about how this operation to raise the fifty

(01:34:46):
six meter vessel will be conducted.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Kevin, look after you seem joy a weekend. We'll talk
to you next week. This Kevin Gray, UK correspondent. By
the way, okay, if you have been hanging out for
these ear taxis, you know the ability to catch an
ear aplane like an you may get your chance. There's
a caveat here, but you may get your chance in
three years. Because the committee that's setting up the Ala
Games for twenty twenty eight has signed a partnership with

(01:35:11):
Archer Aviation and they reckon they're going to be able
to provide an air taxi service at the Ala Games
in twenty twenty eight, and they say, basically, what you're
going to be able to do is jump on one
of these little things. It's a picture of it. It's
just like what it looks like is basically like a
little helicopter with a gigantic tail and then a whole

(01:35:31):
bunch more rotary blades. Was that what they called anyway, Yeah,
it's about four of those blades, four little and instead
of just the one that the older helicopter's got. Anyway,
you can jump on one of these things, you can
fly between ten and twenty minutes, and you can avoid
Allai's notorious traffic. The only trouble two bits of trouble
we've got here. Number one, we do not know how

(01:35:52):
much this is going to cost, and let me tell
you it's not going to be in the same ballpark
as an uber ride. And number two, these things were
planned to debut the Paris Games last year, but we're
not certified by Europe's Air Safety Agency in time, so
they're gonna happen maybe with an asterisk eight away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
It's the heather Toople.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Okay, So I did it. So I did it today.
I was saying to you yesterday I wasn't sure if
I was going to be able to do the teams,
and I did the teams today with I just want
to update you that my life is not a complete mess.
Thank you, thank you. I did do the teams. I
got a little bit confused because then when I because
first of all, jeez, I hate the stuff that they
do to yourn Do you have this stuff on the mbox?

(01:36:41):
This is why Erica used Gmail because I went I
went into my work mbox because I thought, ok, I'm
gonna get rid of got this big meeting and there's
gonna be a CEO there, and I just don't want
to embarrass myself, right, So I've got to be ready
for it in advance. Right, So put the baby to
bed and I was like, Okay, here we go, Here
we go. And I went to log into the email
account and immediately it was like, yeah, sorry, can you
see the number? And I was like, no, I can't

(01:37:03):
see the number. I don't know, I can't see the number.
There's no number. Can you send me a text? And
then it was like, no, can you see the number?
I was like, no, I can't see the number. Can
you send me the text? I'm like, can you see
the number? And so I was like, Okay, restart the phone,
try this again. Then I got through with the text.
So I got into my emails because you had to
get into the emails to get to the calendar where
the invitation was so that you could click on the

(01:37:23):
things so you could join the team's meeting. Do you
know what I mean? This is like a whole kerfuffle,
like they're trying to trip you up all the way.
So I click on the thing and then it goes
would you like to download Microsoft Edge or something? And
I was like, I don't know what that is. I
downloaded teams last night. So anyway, long story short, they
tried they tested me, They tested me the Internet, and
I'll passed the test and I was part of the

(01:37:45):
team's meeting and well.

Speaker 6 (01:37:46):
Done, had a very good job.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (01:37:48):
That was very sneaky Microsoft trying to get an edge
in there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Did you like, you don't understand the sense because you're
technologically savvy, But every boomer out there understands what I'm
talking about. Just managing to make it to the meeting
is an achieved.

Speaker 11 (01:38:00):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and it's a real shame after you
put all that work into clearer in box not that
long ago as well, and get through all the emails,
it's still clear. Yeah, yeah, that's right, and now your
email is giving your grief again. It really just seemed
very unfair. Thank you Bada bas two to play us
out tonight. This is Sweden's entry into Eurovision by Kai
and the bookies all have this one winning.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
Do you find that what that called kai? Not kaj?

Speaker 6 (01:38:22):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (01:38:22):
I had to look this up on Wikipedia and according
to Wikipedia, you pronounce it kai.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Did you also know by the way that they're Sweden's entry,
but they're taking the piss out.

Speaker 11 (01:38:30):
Of the Finish, right Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
And Sulas are from Finland?

Speaker 11 (01:38:34):
Yeah, And are they from Finland as well? I think
they might they might be from they are they are
from Finland, but they do songs in Swedish. And because
this is the thing that I found out when I
got into Eurovision last year, was that you don't actually
have to be from the country, and indeed you don't
have to have any link to the country at all.
They can just be like, oh, that's just like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
The America's Cup.

Speaker 11 (01:38:51):
Yeah, basically, yeah, it is exactly like the America's Cup anyway.
But yeah, if you want to watch, it's on on
Sunday morning, the final and you can stream it on
YouTube for free.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
And thank you so much.

Speaker 11 (01:39:00):
That's of course, if you can get through the auto indicator,
get through.

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
The internets to get to her. See you on Monday.

Speaker 7 (01:39:09):
Keep well

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
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