Full Show Podcast: 17 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's hither
duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's get connected news talk, said be Hy.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Good afternoon, welcome to the show. Coming up today One
Direction star Liam Payne is dead at thirty one. We're
going to go to Buenos Aares and find out what happened.
It's d day for Darlene. Can the Greens though get
the seventy five percent? They need to kick her out
of the party. Bryce Edwards on that, and we're going
to talk to Southland District Mayor Rob Scott about they've
been cracked down on the bad dog owners.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Heather Dupless out right.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Let's talk about Jasinda today. Chris Hopkins said that we
need to bring Jacinda back into New Zealand public life
and we need to use her to advocate for New
Zealand on the global stage and he thinks it's mad
that the current government hasn't done that. And to be honest,
I agree with Chippy on this, like I know there
is not It was an understatement to say there is

(00:56):
not universal luve for Jacinda in this country, but it
is not the same overseas. They love her. I mean,
her getting the damehood overnight is in every single newspaper
that I can think of, and then other ones I've
never even heard of before. It's in the UK Telegraph,
It's in Mine Food magazine, The Times in the UK
nine in Australia, the Guardian, People dot com msn the

(01:16):
Illawarra Mercury, of all places, has got the story in
there William and Kate. And this says a lot. I
think William and Kate even put together a video of
her getting the damehood and then put that video out
on their official social medias. And what that tells you
is William and Kate think that Jacinda is so popular
they want to be connected and associated with her. That

(01:39):
is how big she is overseas. And frankly, if we're
honest about her, we need all the help that we
can get because since her government ironically, our desirability as
a tourism destination has waned, investors have cooled on us.
We are in reasonable economic trouble right so the least
we can do is use the person who put us
in the stock to actually get us out of the stock.

(02:00):
And we need a hell of a lot of pr
out there globally to be done in order to help
us out. And I frankly cannot think of anybody better
than just Sinda to go around shaking hands and fronting
videos and hosting cocktail parties and talking to investors on
our behalf to get them interested in us again. Now
we're are part Chippy, part company with Chippy on this
is that he thinks, by the sounds of things, all

(02:22):
of us are mad for not wanting her back in
New Zealand public life, and we're all completely unfair on her.
And I do not agree with him on that. I mean,
I think he needs to be a little bit more
honest with himself about it. The woman is frankly single
handedly undermining her own credibility in New Zealand right just
accepting the award at Windsor is unbelievably hypocritical. I mean,
this is from a woman who's a professed Republican who
not only a takes the award, but then but then

(02:46):
goes to the seat of power and takes it from
the future King himself. I mean, give me a break.
That's just too much. And then on top of that,
this is the ire about child poverty. Lady who last
I checked is doing nothing to help child poverty in
the country, but meanwhile as making megabucks for herself overseas
off the back of what she did to the country.

(03:06):
And PS also has taken an honor for services to
the country, which is a country that has gone backwards
on every single measure that I can think of because
of decisions that she made. There's nothing like services to
the country over here as disservices to the country anyway.
You know how I feel about the thing, right we
can all see it for what it is. But despite

(03:29):
what I think, despite what you think, the world loves her.
And so I agree with Chippy, we should actually be
using her as much as we possibly can to go
out there and advocate on behalf of New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Would together do for Sea Ellen.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Nine two nine two is the text number. I don't
need to tell you to get involved in this conversation
because I see the text has already gone on. Texts
have already gone off. Standard text fees applied. Just by
the way. Now, chances are you or someone that you
know has recently brought something from Timu. This is this
Chinese online retailer Popularities going through the roof new research
from tearfun to New Zealand reckons one and four of

(04:01):
us have bought something from Timu in the past three months,
but this concern about the ethics of buying at these
ultra fast fashion retailers. Wild Aid's Ethical Fashion Report out
also Today's called TEMU zero for failing to protect workers
and environmental impacts. And Claire Gray is Tear Funds Education
and Advocacy manager and with us. Now, Hey, Claire, hi heiter,

(04:21):
how are you we had good? Thank you you bought
anything from Timu?

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yes, I have, actually, yeah, I know. I'm one of
the one million of us that have bought from TIMU,
and I think it's such a good example for me.
I was buying stuff from my daughter's birthday party and
to give my daughter the party that I wanted to
give her in the budget that I had, that was
the choice I was faced with. And I think I'm

(04:47):
one of, well, I know, I'm one of you know,
a million New Zealanders who's made a similar choice in
that situation. You know, our cost of living is rising
and we have we're faced with situations where we need
to buy item.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Clothes or other things.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
From places that we know may not be treating work
as well in their supply chains, and it's a really
tough position to be in.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
So what is TEMU doing to their workers in the
supply chains?

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Well, first off, it's really hard to tell because TIMU
is really untransparent with what's happening in their supply chain,
So if you pop on their website, it's really hard
to get a good idea of how their workers are
being treated. But different investigations outside of Tearfunds research have
shown that there seems to be extreme over time happening

(05:34):
in Timu's supply chains. So workers will be working up
to three hundred and eighty hours a month producing the
clothes that we then buy for really low cost.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
And is this against their wishes? Are they being compelled
to work these long hours?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
In some cases they are so. Tim has also been
linked to state sanctioned force labor in China. Came out
from US lawmakers last year that said it was highly
likely that you know there was force labor in the
supply chain, So that's when someone doesn't have that choice
about whether they are working or not. But in some

(06:13):
cases it will be less extreme forms of exploitation, so
that would be when we're talking about the excess of
overtime and working all of that over time and still
being stuck in a situation where you can't provide for
your family. So we're looking at the full spectrum rarely.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Okay, So what does it tell you about the fact
that one in four of us, including yourself, have brought
something from TIMUD despite the fact that we know that
there's probably some weird and dodgy stuff going on. Does
it make Are you demoralized by the fact that we
care more about our own money than we care about
what's happening with other people.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
I think it's quite natural in many ways.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
How do you get around that?

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Then?

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Well, one, I think it's helpful for us to raise
awareness and my friends, you know what I would talk about.
We're talking about TIMU, and I don't think a lot
of people would have much of an idea of the
degree to the of exploitation that may be happening. So
I think a big piece of the puzzle is raising awareness,

(07:17):
and then the other piece of the puzzle is acknowledging
that as consumers, this isn't actually up to us to
fix by ourselves. We also need to see companies and
the government addressing the issue of exploitation and supply chains.
So companies really need to take responsibility for human rights
abuses and their supply chains. And we would also like

(07:38):
to see the government legislate to make it a legal
requirement like it is in many jurisdictions around the world
for companies to do this, and then together we're all
doing our bit and making a difference.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Was the stuff that you got from timu any good? Well,
my daughter loved it birthday party, so well there you go. Clear, listen,
thank you. I appreciated clear great education and a because
he managed her it too. You gotta love the fact
that Clear was completely straight up with her mad respect
for that. Heither no, no, no, that's on, just sinda, Heather,
cut it out, vomit Heither No, you're asking the arsonist

(08:11):
to put out the fire. That's exactly the right person
to put out. Why should anybody else have to put
out the fire? Get the arsenist back, make them put
out the fire. Hither of you lost your mind? Hither
If they love Justinta so much, let her stay there.
She certainly won't get a warm welcome if she comes
back to New Zealand. I don't think she would risk
it here the calm down, take your pillshither are you
drinking pregnant? I did not expect anybody to be on. Yeah,

(08:34):
it doesn't surprise me. You gotta listen. I feel as
angry as you do about the stuff that has happened
to this country. And then old mate just swaning off
and being like, yeah, enjoy I set the place on fire.
I have fun. Like, of course I feel upset about that,
but that's not reason to then cut off your nose
to spite your face. You know, if she could go

(08:55):
out and advocate for us, and maybe she can help,
actually do some help, actually do some good, you know. Anyway, listen,
do you remember how the other day, I think it
was Tuesday, councilor Wellington City Councilor Tim Brown was on
the show and he was telling us it's absolutely no
problem with Wellington City Council. Everything's fine, so awesome at
fixing the water pipes. That was his one example. Who's like,
we are awesome at fixing the water pipes. There is

(09:18):
a huge water leak right now in central Wellington on
Vivian Street. It appears from the photos it's as you
head in from State hoiway on towards the airport. As
you're heading towards the airport, it's the right hand side lane.
It's so bad it's force traffic to a standstill because
cars can only drive on the left hand side because
it seems the water on the right hand side is
too deep for the cars to go through. So that

(09:40):
awesome at fixing their pipes. Sixteen past four.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c
Allen Drive with one New Zealand one Giant Leaf for business,
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Speaker 3 (09:58):
Darcy watergrab Sports Talk Coasters with me. Hello, I'm really.

Speaker 7 (10:01):
Looking forward to this weekend because the Formula one is
on and that is my sole purpose of the weekend
is watching Liam Lawson in Formula One. In fact, this
old man, Jared Lawson joins the program tonight because we
talk about that. It's in Texas, so I thought, and
he's got a penalty. Yeah, he does have a penalty
because of the engine change. So that's a hangover from

(10:21):
Daniel Ricardo. So it is what it is. I suppose
it takes a bit of pressure of him to start with,
he's got sprint race up first, then qualifying and then
the main race soon es. Since he's got he's got
three opportunities.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
He's got something to play, he's got something to play.

Speaker 8 (10:36):
He wouldn't test, he wouldn't do.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
You wouldn't it. So if you on having a bit
of a bit of a bet around this race, which
is quite like odds and Formula one, Lando Norris is
paying two bucks to win, but I ad that past
three six dollars to win. I like that a lot more.
But let's look at Liam Lawson. Five hundred and one
dollars to win, so unlikely. I don't think he'll do that.

(10:59):
To finishing up Hody in those sixty seven dollars highly unlikely.
Finishing the top six twenty three dollars, that's unlikely. But
to hit the points to finish in the top ten
four dollars fifty, it's a stretch. But I can't help
myself because it's Liam Lawson and I'm so excited that

(11:19):
he's going to be there. You don't forget R eighteen
bit responsibly.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Thank you, Darcy. Darcy, are you regretting now that you're
not going to the football this weekend because they're going
to sell out.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
Yeah, that's great. I don't like crowds.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
Oh my gosh, No it's not.

Speaker 7 (11:32):
No, no, no, I've got I've got things I'm going
to be doing that involve rugby and race cars.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
That Yeah, it's fat.

Speaker 7 (11:41):
When the Phoenix take on Auckland City, I think that's
the one. I'd like to go a darcy.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
But does this proving the look Okay, I know it's
the inaugural game, so everybody's got a bit of a
bit of hype and excitement at the stuff. But I
suspect that this will be sustainable, not not necessarily sell
out crowds, but I reckon the momentum will be sustainable
because Auckland, I reckon, is geared and primed for a
football team after.

Speaker 7 (12:03):
Having two disastrous starts many many years ago. And we've
got Fred deyong on who's part of one of them,
both those teams. Actually, Yeah, the Kings and the Knights
talk about what this team has to achieve to carry
on the momentum they've gained through all the work they've
done in the community, or to talk to the media,
so on and so forth. So what do they actually
have to do to get some traction? And how much

(12:26):
rope are they going to be given by the fans?
Like they lose the first four or five games, this
is all over already. Is it important that they've got
a billionaire backer behind them? Will that save the stress
if they don't have the best of seasons? Probably will,
But Fred Yong will talk to us about that after seven.
And I want the callers, I want the fans out there.

(12:47):
What do they expect? How much rope will you give them? Plainly,
first and foremost, they've got to win games. It's like
nothing else matters besides that.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Can you even answer that question though? Like how much
rope you're going to give somebody? Because if you'd ask
me at the start of the Warrior season, how much
rope would you give the Warriors? That's how the whole season.
But I lost interest by about halfway through.

Speaker 7 (13:05):
Oh so you cut your open half. You're allowed to
do that and give me make those decisions if you want.
That's fine, but are not.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
In it that.

Speaker 7 (13:13):
Thank you, Darcy and the Cricket India have won the toss.
It looks like we're getting underway in about twenty five
minutes time. Don't know what the teams are yet, they'll
be coming out soon. So India batting with the dent editions,
that means the ball probably going to nip around a weebit.
So it's a great start for.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
The run back into the studio when you know what
the team looks like and let me know the most
interesting to stroll.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
I don't run. I'm too old for that.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Thank you, Darcy Darcy Watergrab Sports Store Coast. We're back
seven o'clock this evening for twenty three.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither Duper c
Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and
use dogs.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
That'd be four twenty five.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Look.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Some of the biggest news globally today is that Liam Payne,
who is the one of the stars formerly of the
boy band One Direction, has died. Looks like he fell
three floors to his death at a hotel in Buenos Aires.
He was over there apparently because Niall was doing a
concert and he was there sounds like originally with his
ex or current girlfriend. It's very hard to kind of

(14:11):
get a handle on what's going on with that situation.
And then she departed three days ago and then he
has passed away. The emergency services were alerted to go
to the hotel because there was a man acting aggressively,
probably under the influence of drugs and alcohol. And when
they got there, they heard a noise, and when they
went to look at what the noise was, they found
his body. Now, at this stage, not clear whether he

(14:33):
did this to himself, or whether somebody pushed the pushed him,
or whether he just fell. Far too early to say,
but fans are speculating that he wasn't in a good
place because the girlfriend had only all ex girlfriend were
It's unclear had only last week issued him with a
cease and desist letter because of what she was calling
obsessive contact. We're going to talk to a reporter in

(14:53):
Buenosarides will be with us just after five o'clock. Heather,
I can sort of understand your reasoning about but I'd
rather see a campaign to show the world she met
the mess she left us in. I E. Get the
truth out there now, I know, I mean, I get that,
but that's not really gonna help us getting the tourists
and the investors back, right. That's got to be I
mean that's got to be our priority is just getting

(15:14):
some dollars into this place to fix the mess, right,
and she can help with that. Hither, I would rather
starve than have Jacinda thinking she can help us here.
That ja Cinda should be offering her help to clean
up the mess she left behind. I wouldn't be asking
her for help here. The chippy has not read the
room at all. We need to give it twenty to
thirty years before New Zealanders somewhat forget the disaster that
was the r doing government should be actually, by the way,

(15:35):
is going to be with us after half past five,
So you know, if you're not triggered already, which we
all are, let's be honest, you could get some more
triggering in about an hour. Headlines next, the.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Day's newsmakers talk to Heather first, Heather duper ce allan
drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and you
talk z.

Speaker 8 (15:57):
Be Poster I wor against Is your truck great?

Speaker 10 (16:02):
Isn't your part my ditors fun house?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's the d day for Darlene after is it aufter seven?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Laura?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Is it after seven?

Speaker 9 (16:13):
Oh? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Six thirty? Having a meeting at six thirty The Greens
are I'm gonna have a chat about Darlene, what to
do with Darlene? Are they booting or out of the party,
et cetera, et cetera. The question at the moment is
whether they get the seventy five percent. I mean, there
must have a reasonable amount of confidence having called the meeting, right,
but if you listen to Chloe's comments in advance of
calling the meeting, it didn't sound like she knew absolutely

(16:35):
sure that they were going to get the seventy five percent. Anyway,
excuse me, Barry Soap will bear us in ten minutes
on that, and then Bryce Edwards political commentator. We'll let
us know what he thinks when he's with us after
five o'clock. I like this. The Southland District Council is
taking a really hard line on dogs, bad dogs and
bad owners. They have had a fifty percent increase in infringement,

(16:55):
so it's gone from one hundred and three last year
to one hundred and fifty this year. Now, what an
infringement means is that the council has already been in
touch with the dog owners at least five times. Right,
so these guys are like repeat offenders. If they're being
clocked up in this number and this is what unregistered
dogs and biting dogs and apparently the dogs, according to
the council, the dogs are just biting people every just

(17:18):
biting everyone for fun apparently, and they need to find
out what's going on here. No more chances for the
dog owners. So we're going to have the mayor of
Southland District on quarter past five have chat to him,
see what's going on here and what happens now they're
no more chances? What does that mean? Twenty three away
from five.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
It's the world wires on news dogs they'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
The entertainment world has reacted with shocked to the unexpected
death of One Direction star Liam Pain. He felt his
death from a hotel balcony in Buenos Aires. Billboard's entertainment
editor says, fans around the world are devastated.

Speaker 11 (17:52):
I cannot imagine how that feels. I mean not only
just for fans, but friends and family who kind of
to find out through the Internet that someone so beloved
and that had so much life and creativity left to
give to the world died so suddenly.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Well how about this. Kamala Harris is going to sit
down interview with Fox political anchor Brett Bayer did the interview,
and as you'd expect, there was a bit of.

Speaker 12 (18:17):
Sparring practically within hours of taking the earth was a
built to fix our immigration system. I finished finished responding
for this, but you have.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
To let me finish.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
You had the White House and the House and the
Senate and they didn't bring.

Speaker 12 (18:34):
Up responding to the point you're raising, and I'd like
to finish.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
And finally, a driver in California has been caught out
trying to use a car pool lane with a plastic
skeleton in the passenger seat. Now it's the same as
with the T two lanes here, right, you need to
have two people in the car to use the car
pool lane. So this driver had given the skeleton a
scream mask and a hood to make it look real,
even buckled up at seatbelt, so look really like a

(19:00):
real person. California Highway patrols or right through the ruse
pull the driver over issued them with a ticket.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Mariol's Algy correspondents with that's hey mas, good afternoon, Heathers.
Your unemployments stayed at four point one.

Speaker 13 (19:21):
Yes, I suppose good news, bad news for interest rates
as well. Unemployment well four point one on September, same
as August. Good news for the sixty four thousand people
who found work last month. And economists, and aren't they
aren't they? I mean they have a bob each way,
these economists, they are expecting twenty five thousand jobs to
be created, sixty four job one thousand jobs in the end.

(19:42):
So it's good news, but bad news for people hanging
out for a cutting interest rates, because they're just hanging on.
In many many cases, it's the same economists I've slapped
a second ago. They're also saying the jobless figure is
not strong enough to lead the Reserve Bank to increase
interest rates. Well, thank goodness for that, but also too

(20:04):
strong to expect a rate cut anytime, at least before
Chris certainly not until the first quarter of next year,
which may be just in time for elbow when he
goes to an election in May.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Now, explain to me how it is that Star Casino
Stuff's up badly enough to be copying a sixteen million
dollar five, but then it has its license? What it
retains its license?

Speaker 13 (20:24):
No it's suspended. The license is suspended. Basically an administrator
has been put in there. This is Star Casino in Sydney.
But here's the thing, here's the conundrum. It's too big
to fail. It's Australia's second biggest casino group, and the
Sydney casino alone. There's another in Brisbane. But the Sydney
casino employs nine thousand people. Now that's a lot of

(20:45):
pay packets and a lot of jobs that would be
lost if the casino's license was taken away. They've tried
new management that didn't work out that well, and of
course spectacular findings of basically illegal conduct. I mean apparently
you know, if you believe the or the reporting, basically

(21:05):
Star was turning a blind eye to industrial scale money
laundering by who knows, God knows who were they? Druggies
were they? I mean, who knows who these people were.
It was call caught on security cameras rocking up at
the place where you you know, you you know, you
buy chips, and they're opening suitcases full of money, all
bundled up. Now, if if you're not smelling a whole

(21:27):
bloody army of rats, I mean, there's something wrong so anyway, look,
they're still very unhappy with the way the joints being run,
but it's the sixteenth fifteen million dollar fine and they're
going to be allowed to keep going, albeit with that
license still suspended.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Well, what does it mean to be too big to fail?

Speaker 13 (21:45):
Well, you know nine thousand jobs. That was the single
biggest reason cited by the guy in charge the casino regulator.

Speaker 14 (21:54):
You can't have people.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
That's just basically given the really big guy's a license
to be a bit naughty, isn't that.

Speaker 13 (22:01):
Well, look they have got this administrator in there. It's
not as those management is allowed to keep going willy nilly.
You know, a lot big corporate lunches and long stretch limousines.
They have got the regulator having a very very close
eye on this. Basically they don't want it to be
a big atm for crooks. And in the meantime, you've

(22:22):
got nine thousand people who are employed.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
So okay, Now, how many of your politicians have flash
houses like Elbow?

Speaker 13 (22:30):
Well, I don't know about that flash but the ABC
has done an analysis. There are two d and twenty
seven federal MPs and senators, and all but twelve have
at least one investment property. Two of them have seven
each ones a liberal ones of labor. You've got three,

(22:53):
had six, five have five. Only one rents and these
are the Greens. Any such a boaster? I rent my
place better. Mum and Dad have got a few in
his name. He's their housing spokesman. And it's all in
the Parliamentary registers. Here's the thing. Peter Dutton was listed
with five properties. I quoted that on Tuesday, but there's

(23:14):
been an updated register. He's down to just one. But
there's no record heather of the spouses, no ability to
appear into family trusts either. It's a really poor look
by Elbow in the middle of a housing crisis. But notably,
Peter Dutton said nothing about slapping Elbow this week because
he knows that a lot of his own side also

(23:35):
have multiple properties. The only people howling about it are
these freaks from the Murdoch Press and Sky News, all
tut tutting away, all all terrible, terrible, and maybe it
will be terrible come the election time. But look, it's
a bad look for Elbow. It's a lovely home though,
and maybe he's slipping the wind.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
He might be out of a job.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Come by next year maybe so hey, thank you ms.
I always appreciate it. Murry Old's Australia correspondents. Back to
the Tamu thing here that we have an interest in
a clothing factory in China. If we didn't give our
staff at least three hundred and fifty hours a month,
they would leave. They would go somewhere that would give
them those hours. The staff come to the factory, stay
in dorms only to work as much as they can

(24:14):
to earn money, and then they go home again. This
is the thing, right, I mean, it's easy for us
in a developed country like I don't think anybody should
work three hundred and fifty hours a week obviously, and
I'm sorry that they're in a position financially where that
is what they want to do. But in a developed
country US, look, we can't impose our values on them. Right,
for me, that would be outrageous. For you that would
be outrageous. But for them, if they're not being compelled

(24:35):
to do it, can we punish team for giving the
staff what they want. Barry Soaper is next sixteen away from.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Five Politics with centrics credit check your customers and get
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Speaker 3 (24:46):
Barry Soper, senior political correspondent with me, Hey, Barry.

Speaker 9 (24:49):
They got a head they can.

Speaker 15 (24:50):
I just take issue at the start with Jasindurn and
how she should be used offshore.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
Yeah please, I don't agree.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I mean one of many listeners who are triggered.

Speaker 9 (24:59):
Oh good, I don't.

Speaker 15 (25:00):
Agree in the slightest. I think that Jasinda Durn's fame
is going to be very temporary. She may be friends
with William and Catherine, and that's why she got her
damehood there, which to me was disgrace anyway, if she
was proud of it, she should have taken it in
this country, not abroad. And the thing is the only
fame that Jacinda Durn got, and I traveled with her

(25:22):
all during her prime ministership. One was the ghastly Mosque
shooting where she cuddled the bereaved people of the victims
and Stephen Colbert in New York. I was in the
studio when he interviewed her. So she got some fame
out of that, and the media did indeed want to

(25:43):
see her because she was at the time a very
young prime minister. I think she was thirty seven. She
was unmarried. Then she became pregnant, so she was a novelty.
Today I don't think she's nearly the novelty she is,
and I, certainly as a KIWI, don't want to see
her representing us overseas.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
Okay, but fair enough, look, fair enough everybody. Everybody's got
really strong feelings about her one way or the other.
But if you think that her fame is going to
be fleeting, what is it that undoes her fame?

Speaker 9 (26:13):
Oh, she'll now fade into oblivion.

Speaker 15 (26:16):
Basically, she's got a dame hood, so I guess you
can use that to some extent. But she's working in
some fellowship in Harvard that's not going to make her
very famous. I I just don't see her. Maybe the
Christchurch Call meeting with mccron and Justin Trudeau her old mates,
but honestly, I just don't see that she's going to

(26:37):
maintain any fame. And what she says, what comes out
of her mouth is important and not a lot comes out.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah, Okay, I think it's fair point to make that
maybe it's not a sustainable thing, right, You actually have
to have you actually have to do things in order
to sustain your fame. I think judging by what Samir
Brown has tried very hard to avoid talking about Wellington
City Council. But what he has said today does not
suggest that he's going to back off here.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Oh no.

Speaker 15 (27:03):
And you know, when you look at after the meeting,
after he met with Tory van Au in the Beehive,
she said she expressed a wish that they wouldn't say
the council was shambolock and was unworkable, whereas in fact
Nikola Willis, who of course is an MP in the

(27:25):
Capitol even though she doesn't hold an electorate that's where
she lives, she has called it a shambles and I
think that says a lot about what this government's planning.
So Simeon Brown says he's now going away to have
a chat to his advisors. I think the advice is
probably already on his table, and that is to in

(27:46):
fact bring in at least an observer to this very
dysfunctional council. I heard Nikolae Young on this morning with
Mike Hosking and she said that she believes a an
observer at least should be brought in. And she's been
on that council a very long time, much longer than
Tory fano has been what's it.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
With winniep and the Maori Party?

Speaker 9 (28:10):
Well, look, they clash all the time.

Speaker 15 (28:13):
And I think Winston Peters, you know, being a man
in his late seventies seventy eight, he finds it very
disrespectful the way he's treated by the Maldi Party, and
indeed in many occasions he is treated very badly. The
latest to and fro between Peters and It was Rawui
wait tea. It was over basically questioning Erica Stanford over

(28:36):
a Maldy language course. They really got stuck into each other,
but it was more going across the house rather than
speaking into the microphone. Here is how the fraka started.

Speaker 16 (28:48):
It is important that teachers in front of students can
pronounce Marty names and use every day common phrase is
woven into their teaching. But this particular course was not
good value for money and contract better in the future.

Speaker 17 (29:01):
Supplementary asked the Minnesota would students at the Little Maury
lessons learn more if they kept their mouths shut while
the teacher was talking.

Speaker 13 (29:15):
House would come back to hang on, yeah, good, excellent,
go and have an argument outside.

Speaker 15 (29:24):
You'd be quiet and here well, And it went on
and on, with Whitey Tea saying basically rising after that
exchange and saying that.

Speaker 9 (29:34):
He was keen Winston.

Speaker 15 (29:36):
Peter said that he wouldn't last five minutes. Whitey Ta said,
you wouldn't like last five seconds, mate, Peter said, you
wouldn't last five seconds, and to and fro went.

Speaker 9 (29:46):
But you know it's not the sort of behavior.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
You wouldn't make it to the door.

Speaker 9 (29:50):
Well that's where you'd come.

Speaker 15 (29:52):
You might go out, but you'd come limping back. And
I mean Winston talks very tough. He caused people sunshine
when they get up his nose. But I don't think
I would be taking him on in any wrestling match anyway.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Well, I mean the thing about it is if you
had to place Ta b Odds on it already's got
the youth, but Winston's got the cunning.

Speaker 9 (30:12):
But we shouldn't be doing that, should we? When it
comes to politicians, Well, I mean they started it. Do
you Reackon's Mike punch below the belt?

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I know, I reckon Winston. I Reckon Winston's been in
a few dust ups in his times.

Speaker 9 (30:24):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, And you wouldn't even see it coming, and it
would be it would be just like an elbow to
the nose or something like that, you know, like, yeah,
you wouldn't. I wouldn't go into.

Speaker 9 (30:32):
There would be no holds bad expression.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
As you say, maybe below the belt. Hey, Barry, thank
you very much, Barry so for seeing your political correspondent
seven away from five.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. Some Mike asking breakfast.

Speaker 18 (30:45):
Acc and they've got themselves a seven billion dollar hole.
A SEC's chief executive was Megan Maine.

Speaker 19 (30:50):
There's the money we spend during the year, which is
what we budget it. But the bigger factor is the
calculation of the lifetime cost of the injuries that have
already occurred, and that was big driver of that deficit.

Speaker 18 (31:01):
I'm fifty nine years old, Megan. I've never claimed ACC
in my life. Am I some sort of freak?

Speaker 19 (31:06):
Mike, you're certainly not a freak. Interestingly, though, you talk
about people falling over, falls are the most common cause
of injury. So if we could all stop.

Speaker 18 (31:14):
Falling over, he adds, if we've learned nothing else out
of the interview today, Meghan, stop falling over. Back tomorrow
at six am, the mic asking breakfast with the rain
driver of the Lahn News.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Talk z b Hea.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
The Barry's a legend for saying as it is, Regisinda,
love him, Heather, thank you Barry for telling the truth
about Justinda. I don't like deurn Heather, but what a
sour man this guy is. That's Barry. Obviously Barry your religion.
Barry for president. Go Barry absolutely right on the mark.
Readh blah blah blah blah. There we go. Yeah, somehow
knew I would be on the minority on the Justinda situation. Anyway,

(31:48):
Chippy with us, Chris Hopkins with us after half past
five on that. Now, it doesn't sound like Tory's been
able to convince the government not to intervene in Wellington
City Council. So today was that she called for a
meeting with Simeon. Had the meeting with Simon at eight
thirty and she told Simeon everything was going to be
okay because she was going to have a reworked long
term plan by the end of the year. Now, there

(32:08):
is no way on God's Earth that she is going
to have a reworked long term plan by the end
of the year. She's dreaming she would have to come
up with a draft amended plan, she would have to
consult on a publicly, she would have to then debate
it with the council that can't get on with everything,
and then she would have to vote on it. And
that all it would have to be done within seventy
six days, which is the end of the year. And

(32:29):
I think when we count seventy six days, we are
counting the period between Christmas and you do you know
what I mean? Like, come on, Tory, you're not going
to do it. Stop telling Porlky's anyway. He's clearly not
buying it either, because even though he didn't want to
talk about it when he came, he got busted by
some of the media at the airport and he was
you're not convinced she.

Speaker 8 (32:49):
Gave an explanation in terms of the situation.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
But I think the reality is that, you know, when
our counsel is relitigating an entirety of its long term
plan that could have a significant impact on rate payers,
that is concerning.

Speaker 20 (33:02):
We're waiting on that advice.

Speaker 21 (33:03):
We're expecting it shortly.

Speaker 22 (33:04):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
That advice is going to come within the next one
or two days. Apparently they may vote on it at cabinet.
Will discuss it at Cabinet on Monday, but it may
also be Monday week, so we'll see what happens. But
I think, look, Tim Brown is gonna Tim Brown's gonna
buy me a glass of beer right because I'm gonna
win this bed. The government's clearly going to intervene. Listen,
Dday for Darlene Today we're talking to Bryce Edwards straight
after the news and then we're heading to Bornostotus to

(33:25):
find out what happened to Limpayne.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers, by the facts and.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Give the analysis.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Heather due to clam Drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected and New Talk as they'd be.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Afternoon. So it is D Day for former Green MP
Darlene Tan of the Greens will meet in about an
hour and a half to vote on whether to invoke
the Waker jumping legislation and boot her out of parliament now.
Darline took the party to court last month to argue
that their disciplinary process had been unlawed. A judge rejected
her claims. She's now taken it to the Court of Appeal.
Meeting still going ahead regardless political analyst ed Bryce Edwards

(34:07):
is with me, now, Hay, Bryce, Hi, Heather. Do you
reckon they've got the seventy five percent?

Speaker 22 (34:12):
Oh, No, one's going to know till about eight thirty.
But I would guess they have got it, because why
would they just continue with this process if they didn't
have confidence that they would get something like that, Because
you know, this has been so embarrassing for the Greens
and it's just dragged on and on, and I mean,
I think they should have stepped back from this many

(34:33):
months ago and avoided all embarrassment. But now they've gone
down the path they I think Chloes Warbrick would really
need to know that she's got the backing of activisties
to not take defeat.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Bryce, I agree with you. I think I think doing
this at all was a mistake. But do you think
going down the democratic path and getting everybody to have
a Kumbaya session about it was a mistake or just
trying to kck her out with the Wacker jumping legislation
at all was a mistake.

Speaker 22 (34:56):
Look, look, they had to do that. That's in their constitution.
That yes, the law says you need two thirds of
the caucus to vote to do this and the Greens
have an add on to make it a bit more democratic.
That's seventy five percent of the base, the activist base
have to do.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
So they should have just left her up there in Siberia.

Speaker 22 (35:18):
Of course they should have. This has been so embarrassing.
I mean, it is actually an unprincipled thing for the
Greens to do. Their whole history has been opposing this
bill for very good reason, and I think it will
be our democracy will be worse for it. It will
lead to a chilling effect on backbench MPs knowing that
they can be tossed out if they go against the leadership.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, I totally agree with you on that. Now, if
they do decide tonight to kick her out, and then
they manage to get the thing done by Tuesday next week,
then the Court of Appeal thing is for her is
just about saving face and nothing else, right, because you
can't be brought back, can she.

Speaker 22 (35:53):
It's a bit mysterious because no, the High Court can't
reverse the Speaker's decision. So if he gets inbursed and
my understanding is that the Greens will notify the Speaker
tonight if they get that vote, and that the Speaker
will do side between Narra and Tuesday, will notify Tana

(36:14):
that she's no longer an MP and to clear the
seat vacant. The High Court can't reverse that, so it
all becomes quite absurd.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Does she get any you know, how if you're a
political staffer in the b how do you get the
three months severance pay and all that kind of stuff.
Does she get that or is it like that's your
last paypack at lady bye?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Look, I don't know that.

Speaker 22 (36:31):
And you know, this isn't something that we normally use,
so I'm not sure they have rules about such things.
I mean, you know, this has hardly been used that
she's been used by the act Party back and what
about two thousand and four, And this is the only
time it's been used since the current version of it
came into power in twenty eighteen. So it's a bit

(36:53):
of new territory.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Really interesting. Hey, Bryce, thanks very much, appreciate your insight.
That's Bryce Edwards, political analyst. By the way, Darlene appears
to be sort of bracing herself for it to go
against her today. She says she's heartbroken that the Greens
are forging ahead with the plan to make her leave parliament.
She says, I have done nothing wrong. Five to eleven
Heather do for see Allen right well. Thirty one year
old Liam Payne, the former member of the boy band

(37:14):
One Direction, has died after falling from the third floor
of an Argentinian hotel. Police they were called to the
Cussaceur hotel in Bonos Aires about five o'clock as in
five pm local time. They'd received a call about an
aggressive man who may have been under the effects of
drugs and alcohol in the inner courtyard of the hotel,
and when they arrived they heard a loud sound coming
from there and then they discovered the body. Valen Irisibar

(37:37):
is an editor at Bonosarre's Herald Hi Vallen Hello, how
are you at that? I'm very well, thank you. Now,
look when we say that he was acting aggressively, do
we know what was going on?

Speaker 23 (37:49):
No?

Speaker 22 (37:49):
Not really.

Speaker 24 (37:49):
Unfortunately, that's about the extent of the details that we
have from the police reports, from what hotel staff were
reporting to the police. We haven't had confirmation as to
because we don't have the autopsy yet, and actually city
authorities are warning against jumping to any conclusions before we
get the autopsy.

Speaker 23 (38:07):
Back, but yes, it's very much.

Speaker 24 (38:09):
He may have been under the influence of drugs or
alcohol and he was acting aggressively, but that's about the
extent of it, I'm afraid.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
So he was there because apparently he'd come to see
his former bandmate Niale Horan's show. Eddy sort of hung
around afterwards or was everybody still there?

Speaker 24 (38:26):
So he was hanging around afterwards he was, I mean,
he was publishing things to his snapchat, you know, I
think an hour and a half before this happened. And
that's the you know, that's what we understand why he
was here. Hotel staff reported to police that he checked
in alone to the hotel on October tenth, and that's
as far as we as we have as well. I mean,

(38:48):
sorry if I can't say, you know, one way or
the other. This is very much what we've been able
to verify so.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Early early stage. I realized now I know that we've
been warned against jumping to conclusions, but people are jumping
to conclusions about the fact that there was a season
di disorder that a partner had issued him last week.
Do we know if this had anything to do with it?

Speaker 23 (39:06):
We don't.

Speaker 24 (39:06):
I have been I will say, obviously I'm not as
tight lift as all that I have seen. Obviously, the
conjectures in the room is about, you know, the fact
that he was under you know, the influence of something allegedly.
I have seen these court orders as not frankly, not
a directioner. It's not something that I had been following
particularly closely.

Speaker 23 (39:24):
But I have seen those.

Speaker 24 (39:25):
Rumors going around and conjectures going around. But when I've
asked emergency services, the police and other people on the ground,
they've very much been saying, look, we don't know if
it was a third person. We don't know if he's fell.
We we can't lo out if this was you know,
on purpose. It's very much all up in the air
as of now.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Speaking of the direction, as I imagine, there are quite
a few fans already at the hotel.

Speaker 24 (39:47):
Yet, yes, there's several I think we know. I've been
talking to people on the ground.

Speaker 23 (39:53):
I haven't made my way over just yet, but there
was a lot of it.

Speaker 24 (39:57):
First of all, it was cordoned off, the street has
been cordered off, and yes there are some fans from
you know, there were about fifty people, but there was
a lot of journalists' presence really there, you know, some
lighting candles, some fans lighting candles. But I suspect there's
probably going to be some sort of event afterwards, and
maybe not necessarily outside the hotel.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
At least that's what we believe.

Speaker 24 (40:19):
Is journalist, you know, it seems to be more of
a dry event going out going on outside the hotel currently.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, hey Vallan, thanks for talking us. I'd appreciate. It's
Valin Lesiba, who's an editor at Buenos Aidre's Herald TMZ,
which is if you follow you know, celebrity news and stuff,
you'll know TMZ. It's kind of Hollywood obsessed news outlets.
It's copying a lot of criticism. It often pushes the boundaries.
Has definitely pushed it with this. It's published an image
of parts, like images of parts of Liam Payne's body

(40:50):
on the ground, apparently just minutes after after the news
of his death. So it's not like a full photo.
What it is is it's a crop photograph of I
think his right m and then another cropped photograph of
just a portion of his tummy and basically showing distinctive
tattoos as into identify it is him. They have copped

(41:10):
so much criticism for this they have taken the photographs
off at any reference to it and not explained the
decision at all. Quarter past Hey, the British and Irish
Film Festival is back for its second edition. This is
bringing the best of the twenty twenty four Toronto Film
Festival lineup to New Zealand cinemas as well as selected
canned film festival favorites as well. So you're going to
get it from Ketty Kiddy all the way down to Dunedin.

(41:30):
The festival is going to screen in thirty cinemas across
twenty different cities in this country and Town's obviously from
October twenty three, that's next week, all the way through
to November thirteen. Five new locations as well. This makes
it the biggest British and Irish film festival to date.
Now opening the festival direct from Toronto and Tallia Ride
Film Festivals comes Conclave starring Ray Fines Who's Fantastic and

(41:53):
Stanley Tucci hosts Fantastic and John Lithgow host Fantastic and
Isabella ross Aliti. I mean, how much more do you
need to tell you? Audiences have been wowed by the
film It's now being widely discussed as a potential Oscar
and Ray Fines is also at his charismatic best in
the Return. He stars alongside the fantastic Juliette Binoche in
their first on screen pairing. They did the English Patient Remember,

(42:16):
first time together since in the last twenty eight years,
so be sure to secure opening night tickets to Conclave
before they sail out. Tickets are on sale now through
the British Film Festival dot co dot NZ or through
participating cinemas. Heather du for Seur nineteen past five. Now,
the Southland District Council is cracking down on dog owners
that who aren't following the rules. This is because the

(42:37):
number of infringement notices issued in the year to June
is up fifty percent on the year before. Most of
these notices are the unregistered dogs, but there's also an
increase in the number of dogs binding people. Rob Scott
is the Mayor of south and with me now.

Speaker 20 (42:50):
Hey Rob, good assent, how are you very well?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Thank you? So what you guys say you're going to
crack down, but what are you actually going to do?
What does this mean?

Speaker 20 (42:58):
It's cracking downocus on the irresponsible owners, so we're not
having to have everyone else pay for the minority. I
think too often in today's will you get the lowest
common denominator kind of affecting everyone and everyone else paying
for it. So we try to look back to the
majority of our good dog owners by not having to

(43:19):
increase the dog fees for them and just targeting those
that aren't playing by the rules.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
But what are you going to take the dogs off
these people?

Speaker 20 (43:28):
Oh, that's that's the last resort. But yeah, I mean,
now all of our team on the ground that they're
real people, they're great people, and it's focusing and of
the gaugery in seat that in that meeting that in
the article that you're referring to there, there's about five
interactions with staff before an invirovement has given. So we're
working with people, but you're just targeting those that are

(43:48):
actually breaking the rules rather than making those that are
abiding by them having to pay for it.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Rob, what are your options between So you've you've issued
five noticed sys to them, now they've got an infringement
and last resort is taking the dogs away? What can
you do between now and then?

Speaker 20 (44:03):
Well, you kind of hope that those infringement notices are
going to actually get paid and that and I think
what happens is once you get to that level that
hopefully the lessons learned and the behavior has changed and
people carry on, and then those that don't, you've actually
got to look at their ability and should they actually
be owning a dog because they are actually letting it
down the side down for everyone.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Okay, now what's going on with the biting? Why are
these dogs biting people?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (44:30):
I don't know, and that's something that Adrian said in
the meeting that they're currently looking into. So yeah, I'm
not actually too sure on that one, and I've actually
seen too much of the info behind that, so I
can't sort of go into that one at the moment
too much. Sorry, but yeah, it does seem a bit strange.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Well, listen, good on you for having a crack at
these guys and go hard. I don't think anybody's gonna
feel sorry for them. They're obviously recidivists. That's Rob Scott's
Southland District mayors. And we just took a wicket. I mean,
let's be let thank you the prominence it deserves. Took
a wicket. What the hell in the test against India.
So Tim Salvey has just bold rohit Shama for two

(45:09):
of sixteen balls. How good India nine for one. Enjoy
it because it might not last. Five twenty one.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
The name you trust to get the answers you need
Heather Dup to see allan drive with one New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Chris Hopkins in studio with us in about twelve minutes time,
five twenty four. Now let's talk about the beneficiary numbers
out today. Right. There are two ways of looking at
these numbers, and I'm talking particularly about the ones that
show that more people have been kicked off the benefit
and sanctioned on the benefit. And the two ways of
looking at it is either to see the government as
beneficiary bashing and heartless or to see the government as

(45:46):
doing these people a favor. And I am firmly in
the latter camp. I mean, I think that what we
need to understand, we sort of need to change our
view about welfare in this country is kind of like
a there's an entitlement mentality which has pervaded New Zealand.
If we need to understand something very important about welfare,
it is one of, if not the greatest single failure

(46:07):
in New Zealand that we have allowed welfare to get
out of hand in the way that we have. We
now have generations of kids who grow up in welfare
dependent homes, which becomes their version of normality, which they
then repeat and raise kids and then start the cycle
all over again. It is not up for debate whether
welfare or a job is better for a human being.
A job is better for a human being. It is

(46:27):
an accepted fact, right, It's better for their life prospects,
it's better for their mental health, gives them purpose. Leaving
people to languish and be raised in welfare homes is
basically neglecting people. If you just let them carry on
like that, you are neglecting them. Pushing them off welfare.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I reckon.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Pushing them off welfare is kind of a little bit
like parental discipline, right, Nobody loves it. The kid doesn't
love it, You don't love it. Nobody wants to be
doing that disciplining a child. But you want the best
for your child's life prospect You want the best for
them as a human being, So you know you've got
to make some tough calls to help them out. It's
kind of the same with welfare. I grew up in
a town where welfare was a part of South Auckland.

(47:05):
At the time, welfare was so embedded, so normalized, that
I remember classmates quitting school before seventh fall, and when
I said to them, what are you going to do?
It wasn't They weren't going off to a course, they
weren't going off to university. They were just gonna go
home and be on the doll. That should not be
a career option, and it is a career option in
this country. So I think that we have to all
change the way that we see welfare. We are very

(47:28):
lucky to have it, we really are. Especially in economic
downturns like this. This is when we needed to catch
people who are losing their jobs. But it cannot be
a lifestyle. And if that means that people have to
be pushed off it, then that is the right thing
to do.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Heither do for see Allen.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
I have got a little bit more sad news for
your music news. The keyboardist of the band Dragon, Alan
Mansfield has died. He passed away yesterday in Sydney with
his family and his partner Sharon O'Neil by his side.
It was weird, really weird timing because just yesterday, which
is the day he died, I was driving into work
and I was listening to it on radio. Hode Dragon
came on and I thought the song is an absolute banger.

Speaker 12 (48:07):
I ever was.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
It's all how good is the song? Enjoy it's h.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Is it wonder?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
A streets.

Speaker 8 (48:34):
Is a wonder? We all.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
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Speaker 2 (48:55):
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Speaker 1 (48:56):
Here the Duple c Alan drive with one New Zealand
let's get connected and news talk as sid be.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Trove from the Heart. I'm standing by Nick Mills and
Mark Sainsbury with us this evening. And by the way,
after six I should actually have said this earlier. We're
gonna have a chat to Louise Upston, who's the Social
Development Minister, about those beneficiary numbers that are coming up.
There's been an increase in the number of Bennies, by
the way, in the last year by about eight percent.
That shouldn't shock anybody. We've had an economic downturn, that's
what the benefit is therefore, So anyway, right now it's

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twenty four away from six now, Jacinta ar Durn, as
we've discussed, has received her Dame hood from none other
than Prince William at a ceremony at Windsor Castle overnight,
and that's prompted Chris Hopkins, the Labor Party leader, to
pipe up. And so we should do more to utilize
the star power of Jainda are doing to advocate for
us globally, and he is with us right now, had
you been I made those.

Speaker 10 (49:52):
Comments a couple of weeks ago. It's just they're being
reported now. But really, but you know, I think it's
a good thing that they are being reported because I
do think that Jasinda Arden has some star power pulling,
you know, pulling power for us on the international stage,
and we should we should use it.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
How would we use her?

Speaker 8 (50:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (50:07):
I mean, like I genuinely don't know. I mean, she
can certainly promote New Zealand for tourism, promote New Zealand
for trade, promote New Zealand as a good as a
good country.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
She could do investors, cocktail parties, contry.

Speaker 10 (50:16):
All of those sorts of things, you know. I mean,
I'm not necessarily talking about any formal role. I'm just
saying that let's just use her as a as an
asset to the country. She's got a high international profile.
Why wouldn't we And the funny thing is, you know,
I know that there's a there's a small group in
the country who are very vitriolic towards to Cinda. But
actually I know a lot of National Party people didn't
vote Labor, wouldn't vote Labor, but they still respect to
Cinda and they still, you know, they still would like

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to see her more positively reflected, you know, by the country.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Are you sure it's a small group.

Speaker 10 (50:44):
I think it is a pretty small group. They're very,
very loud, though, I mean, it's a it's a bit
like the anti vex group. You know that the.

Speaker 9 (50:50):
Proportion of noise.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Vibes right.

Speaker 10 (50:55):
Oh yeah, But I mean overall, the vast majority of
New Zealand has went and got vaccinated. I don't think
the anti vex group does.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
We've got vaccinated. I still get triggered by her. Those
two things don't correlate. The reason I'm asking you whether
it is a minority if you're so sure about it,
because you have said you've blamed a minority of people
for making things quite nasty. But chippy. We've got a
beach house at the same place that her parents have
got a beach house in the Coromandel, and man, you
know that town is dark on her. You know, that's

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a town her parents basically live in. So I'm not
sure how small it is.

Speaker 10 (51:26):
Yeah, there are certainly stronger pockets of it around the country.
There's no question the Corimndel is definitely one of those.
But I don't think that's reflective of the mood of
the whole country. Like I said, I've met plenty of
National Party people who didn't vote Labor, aren't likely to
vote Labor, but they certainly don't subscribe to the nastiness
you know that we've seen directed it to see.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
I just assume that the reason that she is now
overseas and basically doesn't come back home is because it's
like widespread nastiness. No, I don't think so.

Speaker 10 (51:52):
I mean, certainly there's a vocal group who would target
her back home in New Zealand, But actually I think
it's because she's she's got some pretty good offers around
the world and she's busy. You know, she's in high demand.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Can you tell me something. This is what I don't
understand about Jacinda. Is the version of Cinda that we're
getting at the moment is not the version of Cinda
that we thought we were voting for. Like we were
voting for the child poverty lady who's basically just naffed
off and lining her own pockets and fair enough, like
I would too if I was her, But she's making
herself for it. She's not looking after the kids here.
She's a Republican who then gets takes the honor got

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windsor Castle, Like, how crazy is that? So I feel like,
of all the prime ministers, the one who cared the
most about the poor kids is the one who's making
the most money out there at the moment. It feels weird.

Speaker 10 (52:37):
I mean as a Republican, of course, I have mixed
views about that myself, you know, Like I mean, I'm
a Republican and I met with Prince William last year,
and we met with King Charles last year and so on,
and I quite liked them, But I'm still a Republican.
And actually, people accepting an honor on behalf of New Zealand,
it doesn't necessarily mean that suddenly New Zealand by but
come on, an offered by New Zealand. Should have said,

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you know, because it is a New Zealand government doctor,
you don't.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Have to take it. You certainly don't have to take
it from the future king at windsor Well.

Speaker 10 (53:07):
You know, look, ultimately, as I said, look, I'm still
a Republican and I have some more mixed views.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Have you soon been? Like, I just didn't know.

Speaker 10 (53:16):
That's not a conversation that we've ever had.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
But she, she was, she did that. That's her called that,
that's her business. Hey, are the Greens going to kick
Darlene out tonight?

Speaker 10 (53:25):
They've certainly entitled you and if they do, I think
it'll be a good thing. It'd be a good thing
for the parliament, good thing for democracy.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Are you just saying that because it means that the
Greens are the first one to pull the scab off
the walker jumping legislation, which even you didn't use.

Speaker 10 (53:38):
No we didn't, but actually well we didn't use it
because it was getting a bit close to the election
and all of that kind of stuff, and the Greens
don't well I don't think that's true, but actually I don't.
I've always supported that legislation because I think that when
you vote for people and they come in on the
party list. They have no mandate to be there on

(53:58):
anything other than the you know, as members of the party.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
That they got votes, are there is agreed, not as
Darling exactly right, okay? But so do you think they've
got the seventy five? I hope so. I mean, obviously
you guys are not keen on her, are you.

Speaker 10 (54:13):
I I just think it's such a distortion of parliament.
You know, like you get elected as a Green MP
and then with it literally within weeks you're not in
the party anymore, and you're trying to say it stay
as an independent. I don't think that's what people voted
for when they voted for MMP.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Okay, fair enough. And do you think the government should
get involved in Wellington City Council?

Speaker 10 (54:29):
Not yet? I mean I think they should certainly be
meeting with them, they should have conversations with them. But
I don't think they've yet met their threshold, you know,
to get rid of the council.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
The threshold for a CROWNEDGI. It's not getting rid of
the councils, just sending a grown up in. Isn't the threshold?
Simply that the minister has to kind of lose confidence.

Speaker 10 (54:46):
No, they basically have to be They have to have
grounds to believe that the Council is not fulfilling its
statutory obligations. So if the Council can't produce a long
term plan, they're not producing they're not fulilling their statutory obligations.
Time to time for the government to do something. But
at this point they haven't got to that point yet. Yeahs.
The ultimate sanction is that next year there's a local
government election rolling around and all Wellingtonians get to have

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you on.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
That express What you heard? Have you heard Tori is
going to get a seat with the Greens?

Speaker 10 (55:13):
I have not heard that. No, Look Ian, I suspect
there'll be a very vigorous contest in Wellington at the
next election.

Speaker 12 (55:20):
Though.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, ChIL Be, thank you for coming
and it's really good to see you.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
Yeah's lovely to be here.

Speaker 17 (55:25):
Thanks man.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
That's Chris Hopkins, our Labor Party leader right now. It's
coming up eighteen away from Sex.

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Speaker 8 (55:52):
Hullo you too, right, both of you?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
How are you feeling about just so you triggered?

Speaker 25 (55:59):
Look that the thing with just and I mean there's
two things and you it's great because you you nailed
both of them. One was I was really surprised she
took it to begin with the day because you know,
Helen Clark would not, Jim Bolger would not, you know,
And I found that really really odd.

Speaker 8 (56:13):
And as you say, well, you could argue.

Speaker 25 (56:14):
You're going to use it to you know, gives you
a bit of status to do greater good. And then
look and the other thing is she is regarded totally
differently overseas than what she is here. There's a lot
of people here who just simply hate it. And I
remember when they're remember running in the Grant Roberts at
once at some it was a book launch or something,
and he said to me, the DPS have told her
not to leave the building for two days. I remember

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thinking at the time, is this what we've come to?
So there's all that sort of true Away from New Zealand,
I mean, outside of New Zealand, she's very highly regarded.

Speaker 8 (56:44):
The Laby used John Key as the same role, you know.

Speaker 25 (56:47):
I mean you could say it's all very well from
say that today today extend the hand to a former
prime minister who could be useful.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Yeah, it's a fair point that you make it. We
didn't and when John Key, I mean after John Key,
we're actually pretty fine fetal as a country. We're much
more stuften and really need the pr at the moment.
What do you think, Nick, Are you triggered by her
or are you feeling just like chill vibes at the moment.

Speaker 17 (57:07):
I mean, I don't think anybody should get a dame
hood or a knighthood when you're under about.

Speaker 23 (57:12):
Fifty or fifty five. I've got a real problem. I
always thought.

Speaker 17 (57:15):
There was a lifetime of commitment to something, a lifetime
of doing something to create that. So I've got a
real problem with these young people picking them up.

Speaker 23 (57:23):
That's the first thing.

Speaker 17 (57:24):
Secondly, life change for Jasinda Ardurm when she opened a
school in christ church well somewhere down south.

Speaker 23 (57:30):
You remember it when she came in the van and
everyone was banging on the van. You know, she was
just opening a school. I mean, we've never seen anything
like that before in New Zealand.

Speaker 17 (57:39):
So yes, she's very popular, or was very popular internationally.
They thought of her as this, you know, smart young
woman that was running this country and taking us through
COVID and what a great effort. But I think it
was was I don't think it's current, and I think
that Chippy's living in the past.

Speaker 23 (57:58):
But if she thinks that she can represent us.

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Sure, I reckon.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
She's still a big deal overseas. I mean she was
at the on the sidelines of the Democratic Convention. The
Prince and Princess of Wales have made a video and
put it on their socials so that they can be
associated with her, and she's all over the newspapers. Man,
I reckon, she's got star purs do.

Speaker 23 (58:16):
She was sidelined.

Speaker 17 (58:17):
She was sidelined on that convention. That's what it really
got to me is they made a big deal about it.
She was out the back door talking to.

Speaker 23 (58:23):
Someone that no one ever knew. It wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
Run a lot of stuff on the side. But now
put it this way.

Speaker 25 (58:29):
If they decide to have a New Zealand, we want
business to come to New Zealand, do it New Zealand
House in London?

Speaker 8 (58:34):
Would more people turn up?

Speaker 25 (58:36):
I was hosted by Jacinda Adurn or would more people
turn up? I was hosted by Chris Luxen.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Oh, Cindy every day?

Speaker 17 (58:42):
Yeah, but you're missing You're missing a very What about
Peter Jackson? Now put him in the equation and tell
me who would turn up.

Speaker 8 (58:49):
Peter doesn't need to turn up there.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 17 (58:52):
If you want someone to actually represent your land and say, hey,
what a great city you want?

Speaker 3 (58:56):
What about Lord Lord versus Jacinda?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Well, different crowd and.

Speaker 25 (59:03):
I think Beanie should get it. Oh give Lord and
not a damehood that upset?

Speaker 23 (59:10):
Say at night, guys, knighthood come.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Home for knighthoods for everyone and we'll take a break.
Come back with these two v Shortly it's called to the.

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Speaker 3 (59:26):
Back with the hut on Nick Mills and Mark Sainsbury.
Hey next, so oh, hold on saints.

Speaker 8 (59:30):
I just pointed, would you take a dame hood?

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Yeah, but I've got no principles.

Speaker 8 (59:34):
Would you?

Speaker 3 (59:35):
Would you?

Speaker 25 (59:35):
Well, I call myself a Republican. I like think, no,
I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd like to be tested?

Speaker 8 (59:40):
You think, oh, would this be upgrades for the rest
of your life? Would you? Would you? Would you?

Speaker 17 (59:43):
Of course it?

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Would you get business class? You get business crass those
new seats right at the front.

Speaker 8 (59:47):
Would you?

Speaker 23 (59:47):
Then?

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Saying so, if you got offered a knighthood, would you
also insist that William give it to you?

Speaker 8 (59:53):
Look, I think I would say no. I would say
that I wouldn't get off the one in any case.

Speaker 23 (59:58):
But no, can can I make a confession here?

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
You were off the one?

Speaker 22 (01:00:03):
No?

Speaker 23 (01:00:03):
No, no, I've got one of the ones underneath it.
I've got an o Z to him. So that's I mean,
I've already sort of gone in that realm traditional just
a brag. Well, no, I'm just actually playing with a
straight bat.

Speaker 8 (01:00:14):
Are you republic Would you take a night of it?

Speaker 15 (01:00:17):
You know?

Speaker 17 (01:00:18):
Would I take a night now? Because I don't I'm
not deserved of one. If I was deserved of one,
I would definitely take it. I mean, I'm not deservant
of one and I wouldn't take it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Okay, Hey, next, so what are you reckons going to
happen here with with the council? Are you? Are you
getting the vibes that the government's going to intervene and
that Tory has not at all convinced to mean today?

Speaker 17 (01:00:37):
Can I tell you firstly that your interview with Tim
Brown is one of the best interviews of my whole life.
I have played it back more than I've played a
Beatles song back.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
I appreciate that from you because your interview with Tory
was outstanding and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Speaker 17 (01:00:53):
Well, it's not the mutual anthwer society here, but admiration
society here. But no, and I'm going to I'm going
to say this really really clearly, nothing is at very
very worse than it won't happen till No, it's not
going to even happen that they would put an observer
like it's nearly Christmas right in Wellington. It's nearly Christmas,
it's nearly the end of the year. Nothing's going to
happen before the end of the year. Then we're back

(01:01:15):
at February March before everyone puts their feet under the table.

Speaker 23 (01:01:18):
Then it's April, May, June, July, August, before an election.
They won't do a damn thing.

Speaker 17 (01:01:23):
They will just put it back on Willingtonians to vote
the right way at the next election, now, you know.

Speaker 23 (01:01:28):
And some of me says that's the right thing to do.

Speaker 17 (01:01:31):
It is a disaster.

Speaker 23 (01:01:32):
I watched that special meeting.

Speaker 17 (01:01:33):
I've never wasted three hours in my life ever before,
the same way that the actual council is. The whole
council is an absolute disaster.

Speaker 23 (01:01:42):
It really is. But I mean, if Simeon hasn't done anything, now,
when is he going to do something?

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I reckon he does something by the end of the
nth says I'll tell you what I think was fascinating
is so Tory calls a meeting with Simeon to try
to stop him intervening. Then she has the meeting with
Simeon and they don't even mention government intervention. Isn't that weird?

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
It's very weird.

Speaker 25 (01:02:02):
Well, it's you know, like, don't mention the war, the
most telling thing that has been And Tolly, you know
who was born in this commissioner across in total and
she made. I mean that it's a it's a very
big step to take it. It is a very very
big step, and it's politically risky as well. You've got
a lot of voters are gonna go, what are you
doing interfering? They're our sort of stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
Up to leave them to us. So I agree with Nick.
I think they'll think no, I think they'll hold off.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Okay, interesting, have you brought anything at t mouse sayings up?

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
I was crap. I mean it's it's like a drug.
You can't you go, God, that's cheap or that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Could be good?

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Did you buy?

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
I brought this whole?

Speaker 25 (01:02:37):
I bought a floating boar, A floating floating boar, like
a little drone thing which is about fourteen bucks and
it floats around. But look it's made out of you know,
match sticks or something. As soon as it hits something
that shatters, super super cheap.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
How much fun did you have with that?

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
I quite a bit of fun, did you?

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Is it the kind of thing that you enjoy when
you've drunk too much?

Speaker 13 (01:02:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
But like that? Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:02:59):
Okay, all right and they hear that, Yeah, can I
just say something that we've all forgotten? But you know,
who's everyone in one into everyone? Who's everyone's talking about?
Who's going to run for me next year in Wellington?

Speaker 23 (01:03:11):
Rachel a guy that you're looking at right now saying
so for mayor?

Speaker 8 (01:03:17):
I don't listen. I had a call from z B yesterday.
I had another one from Stuff today.

Speaker 9 (01:03:21):
Deny it.

Speaker 8 (01:03:22):
They head me down as I. You said, Oh, you're
you're on a ticket with with Diane Calvert.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
I said, I haven't met her.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:03:28):
I mean, where does this?

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
You're running for me?

Speaker 8 (01:03:30):
I'm not running for me yet, but I'm luck Nick
and I have talked about very very concerned about where
it's going.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
You make a really good mayor.

Speaker 8 (01:03:38):
You'd have to be convinced. I mean only because the
only thing is you look at that.

Speaker 25 (01:03:43):
It's sort of like I remember three years ago someone
tried said me, why don't you stand for me here?
And you go dysfunctional counsel in fighting billion dollar water
problems and you know, lack of financial expertise.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Well, listen, I reckon, we'll it needs look, it needs to.

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
Cheer at them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Yeah, will you be the mayor? And Nick and I
will help you you.

Speaker 8 (01:04:03):
Job share. I'll just do your Winston and Seymour.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Now I love it all right, guys, listen, thank you
very much, really appreciate chatting to you. And how exciting
is that gossip about Saintso that's Mark Saints Brian Nick
Mills a hurdle seven away from six.

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Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Hey, India's mounting a comeback. It's thirteen for three.

Speaker 8 (01:04:33):
How good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
I'm just you know what, I'm just going to enjoy
this because it is lasting and it is worth us
enjoying it, isn't it? Hither I feel rather sad and
ashamed of how this conversation about our previous prime minister
is going. The woman tried her hardest with some of
the biggest hurdles any government has had to face in
the Vitreo. She still faces from her own country as
pathetic and simplistic. Well, I mean she has a flake,

(01:04:54):
and obviously she could be. If you're not up to
the job, you can try as hard as you like,
you're still not up to the job. I think that's
the problem there, and also the other problem is, let's
be honest about it, is that I think Kiwi's really
get very frustrated that we could see that she was
just so shite at the job and then everybody loves
her around the world. It's a bit like when you
talk to a brit like I quite like Bojo because
he's kind of funny and he's got mad hair, and

(01:05:17):
when I talk to Brits about it, they are really
angry with me for finding any part of that amusing
because he just stuffed them.

Speaker 23 (01:05:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
It's kind of that kind of vibe. Anyway, listen Enios
and Britannia, right, So Aeneos Britannia, sorry, and Team New Zealand.
Ineos beat Team New Zealand twice overnight for the first
time in this regatta. So now it went. It was
four zip to Team New Zealand. Now it's four to two.
People are questioning whether this could be the San Fran moment,
because if you remember San Fran, we were up eight
to one and we just needed one race to win,

(01:05:44):
and then suddenly the Challenger Oracle took eight in a
row and beat us, right, And the reason people are
asking if this is the san Fran moment is because
there are some really weird similarities here. So these are
the three similarities. What happened in San Fran was that
Team New Zealand was so confident because they only had
two races to win, that they agreed to a lay day.
It was after the lay day that Oracle Team USA

(01:06:06):
mounted the comeback and never stopped winning. This time the
two wins in a row overnight happened after another lay day.
There's your similarity. Second similarity in San Fran. On the
day of the lay day, the only boat out practicing
was not Team New Zealand, was the other team. Same
thing just happened yesterday. The only boat out practicing not
Team New Zealand, and the final one the skipper of Oracle,

(01:06:29):
Ben Ainsley, the skipper of Anios, Ben Ainsley. History doesn't repeat,
so don't worry about us. We absolutely fine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Even in coming up in the next hour, Liam Dan
is going to talk us through TIMU and how it's
destroying New Zealand retailers. The industry. It's pretty worried about
a shortage of pilots. They can see coming. They're going
to talk to us after half past an end of
Brady out of the UK at seven past six now.
A number of people on the benefit has gone up again.
There were almost four hundred thousand people on a main
benefit at the end of last month. That's an eight

(01:07:14):
percent increase over the year before. Louise Upson is the
Minister for Social Development and Employment. High Louise, Good afternoon, Heather, Louise.
I'm not fussed about the numbers going up because to me,
that is what happens in an economic downturn.

Speaker 5 (01:07:27):
Yes, yeah, but it is challenging, but it is absolutely
dealing with the reality of what the last government left us.
But we're just getting on with the job.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
How worried are you though, because whenever we have people
going on to the benefit, it does always create the
risk that they get there and they can't get off.
How worried are you about that?

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
Well, I am really encouraged by the figures we've seen
in the last quarter where over sixteen thousand people have
come off the job seeker benefit in two jobs. It's
really encouraging. So while I accept it is challenging out there,
it's not impossible.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Do we know what jobs these people are going into.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
I don't have the detail of what those jobs are,
but what I'm very clear about is a job is
better than no job, and a job leads to a
better job. And so while I accept it's challenging, we
want to see more people in employment. And the figures
that have come out around the work exits nearly two
thy four hundred more than in the same time a

(01:08:34):
year ago, despite these challenging economic conditions, is encouraging and
it's great to see these results.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
I see that there are about forty four thousand main
benefit cancelations, which is up fifteen percent on the year before.
What is that like? Is this when you say a
main benefit cancelation, are you talking about a situation where
they want to continue to be on the benefit they
haven't got a job to go to. When you guys
go nah, you're off, No, there'll.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
Be a wholefferent reason for cancelation. So what that might be.
Just as when someone comes to the age of eighteen,
they might go on to a benefit, at the age
of sixty five, they might go off because they're going
on to superannuation. So there's a whole bunch of reasons
that people come on benefit and go off. Our focus

(01:09:21):
is absolutely on job seekers because that is the group
that I worry about, people who are on the job
seeker benefit. We want to see them get into employment
and to see them have opportunities for the future.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Okay, do you have no idea what proportion of the
main benefit cancelations is actually chucking people off the doll altogether.

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
No, But as I said, those sixteen thousand that I
just referred to job seekers, which are a subcategory of
that forty four thousand that have gone into employment.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
But that's countered differently, isn't it, because that's counted as
the exits into work category. But it's a subset. Oh,
that's a subset of those set of the original number
of its. Yeah, I'm with you. And the sanctions going up.
Are we seeing any indication that sanctioning these guys is
actually giving them the hurry up and getting them off
the door.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
So the fact that we've only got one percent at
Orange and one percent at Red is really really encouraging.
So it means that people are responding when there is
when they go to Orange, they'll take the actions they
need to get back straight into Green. And that's what
the system's about. It's about being really simple and clear
to understand. If you're on a job seeker benefit, what

(01:10:35):
are your obligations, what are your obligations to be in
contact with MSD, to be applying for jobs and to
accept a job that's offered. And as I said, ninety
eight percent are complying with their work obligations, which is.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Great, fantastic. Hey, Louise, thank you so much for talking
us through that. That's Louise Upston, the Minister for Social
Development and Employment. Eleven past sas ever dup c Ellen,
Heather Ben Ainsley was the tactician, not the skipper. Quite right,
you are quite right. A number of textappointed this out.
He was the tactician and not the skipper on Oracle.
What's important about that was that he only joined, he

(01:11:10):
only came on board as the tactician just as they
were sort of setting off that what about halfway through
that winning run. So he's kind of also a similarity
that is strong here, but obviously much less strong because
he's the skipper this time, but only the tactician last time.
Internet Auckland International Airport has just held its annual meeting
and a couple of interesting things have come out of
this now. The first is that the airport wants to

(01:11:32):
make up with their New Zealand. If you've been following
what's going on here, it's got pretty nasty between the
two of them. Been fighting tooth and nail over the
money that the airport is spending on upgrading the international terminal,
Like that's got to be sucking up a lot of
both sides time just having this massive public debate about
whether the international airport should be upgrading the terminal or

(01:11:52):
how much are spending on it and blah blah blah
blah got a bit nasty. They point out at their
annual meeting today that it's pretty normal for airport and
airlines to have these kinds of fights internationally when there
is a big upgrade, so it's not as if the
relationship breakdown is completely unexpected, but they'd say they do
need to get it right. The director there, Dean Hamilton,
acknowledged it was critical that the airport repair its relationship

(01:12:15):
with their New Zealand after a period of disagreement. Also,
they are quite worried about the lack of tourists, in
particular from Australia. Australia's tourists are only back up to
eighty three percent of pre COVID visitors. The trouble is
now that the Aussies are traveling again, they're going straight
to Bali, so they're not coming here. So somehow and
the airport thinks it basically needs to convince the airlines

(01:12:37):
to put on more flights trans Tasmin flights. So you know,
in order to do that you need a good relationship,
don't you. But yet worried about the tourists and won't
be helped by all the stuff that we're doing on
tourism at the moment. I don't know how much of
the how much of the fee increases. The Aussies cop
because they kind of get a bit of a free
ride come in here, you know, it's a bit of
a free passage thing. But generally the vibe is completely

(01:12:58):
off with how much we're charging tourists.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Teen past six, crunching the numbers and getting the results,
it's Heather due for c Allen with the Business Hour.
Thanks to my HR, the HR platform for SME on
news talksb I think.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Trump is going to win the selection, and I'm going
to tell you I've just looked at some polling BBC's
done like a pole of poles type thing. I'm going
to run you through this in just to take and
explain to you why I think Trump is going to
win it. Sixteen past six now it's started. The program.
We talked about the fact that like one in four
of us have bought something from Timu, the Chinese retailer,
in the past three months. It's been hugely popular, a

(01:13:34):
popular thanks to the very cheap prices in free shipping.
Liam dan Is, The Herald's Business editor at large with
us on this alien.

Speaker 14 (01:13:40):
Get Heather, you bought from Timu?

Speaker 23 (01:13:42):
No, No, never have. Actually guess my kids might have.

Speaker 7 (01:13:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 26 (01:13:46):
And there's another one in the story I was reading
at fourteen percent of Kiwis have brought something from Shane Shine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Sheen. We're not sure how to pronounce it.

Speaker 26 (01:13:55):
This is like me looking at the band's lists on
the rock music festivals now and it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
You can't remember this the case. So, Kenzie the Zuma,
are you a zoomer? Kenzie Kensi the Zoomer is still
at work at the moment, which is an unusual thing.

Speaker 26 (01:14:10):
And she says it's sheen, sheen, Okay, very good, and
I'm sure it's probably it's probably really great high quality stuff.

Speaker 22 (01:14:16):
Is it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
It's rubbish, It's total rubbish, she said, it's just nonsense.
But it's cheap, right, So if you're just going to
use it the one time, then happy day. It's like
for a party or whatever. Okay, what is it doing
to retailers?

Speaker 26 (01:14:29):
Well, I think it's a concern because obviously retailer has
been sort of down and out, having a terrible time
because of the inflation, recession, all these domestic issues that
we've got, and then it feels like we're going to
sort of wake up from that, and this structural issue,
this structural change in retailing is going to, you know,
just just make it that much harder for some of

(01:14:50):
these retailers to come back. I recall it was only
Dune actually, but in the last GDP figures we saw
signs of this because the was buried in there.

Speaker 23 (01:15:01):
There was.

Speaker 26 (01:15:03):
A statistic for consumer imports of low value goods that
showed that they had risen fifty percent in the last
year and up twenty percent in the March quarter alone.
So if that's you know, if that's the kind of
trajectory we're on and we've already got a quarter of
Kiwi's using Tamu, you've got to wonder where it ends.
I hope it ends with them people realizing they probably
need less stuff and maybe buy some more high quality

(01:15:27):
stuff and have it last. But I don't know that
that trend is suddenly about to descend on us.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Is this I mean, so this is obviously part of
the warehouse's problem. Is it possible for us to kind
of extrapolate how much of this is that is causing
the warehouses problems and how much of the warehouse's problems
is just the warehouse?

Speaker 26 (01:15:44):
Yeah, that's right. I think I think it's an issue
for where retailer is like a warehouse, because you know,
if you're a small retailer on the on a main
street New Zealand, I guess you can go up up
market and you know, sell the good stuff that people
buy for special occasions and things, and then you're not
not competing with Timu. But if you're you know, model
is based on importing sheep manufactured Chinese goods, then they're

(01:16:05):
cutting out the middleman here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
And that's the problem. And look, I don't know.

Speaker 26 (01:16:08):
It's multi factoral the warehouses issues, so I would be
hesitant to say it's one thing. But I think this
is a sort of a big downward pressure on sales
even beyond the sort of short term economic cycle. So
it will be interesting to see if it can overcome
that in the next year.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Hey, listen on the inflation number yesterday, and what the
ocr does Are you picking fifty or seventy five?

Speaker 23 (01:16:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:16:32):
I reckon maybe seventy five.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
I mean, you know, yeah, I mean, this is the thing.
If they go seventy five, right, that is an admission
that they stuff this up.

Speaker 26 (01:16:41):
Yeah, I guess it's how much, you know, But surely
they've got to do the right thing for the economy.
And I don't know that seventy five is yet, but
there are signs that, you know, if the economy is
really as bad as people are sort of saying and feeling,
and you know, you could make the case it was
a special event COVID the pandemic inflation happened. Rates had

(01:17:03):
to go up, and they had to go up in
a sort of in a crisis mode. If the crisis
is over, they should come down fast. And you know,
whether who was right or wrong or whatever, that sort
of secondary to getting the settings right quickly. I know
it's still an outside chance, but the markets have it
about forty percent odds on a seventy five point basis cut,
so you know it'll only take a little bit of

(01:17:24):
bit more bad news that unemployment data coming in a
bit lower, a bit higher, I guess it would be.
And you could easily see.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
That brilliant het, Liam love chatting to you. Really appreciate
its Liam Dan. The Herald's Business center are large. Hither,
there is no way that Trump will win the selection,
no matter what the polls reflect at present, most Americans
want change. Carmel will make a difference hither. If Trump wins,
I will never listen to you ever again. I don't
need to be blamed for what happens over there. That's
deeply unfair. Let me explain to you why Trump wins came.

(01:17:54):
So the BBC is running this poll. I think it's
actually it's five three eight ABC News poll. Right, don't
worry about what's happening in the national polling. The only
thing that you should care about is what's happening in
the swing states. The swing states being Nirvana, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan,
North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona. Harris is not leading by enough,

(01:18:15):
She's gonna lose. This is why Nevada she's got her.
The margin of her lead is less than one percent.
Pennsylvania the margin of her lead less than one percent,
Wisconsin lesson one percent, Michigan lesson one percent, North Carolina.
Trump's got by less than one percent, Georgia he's got
by one percent, and Arizona's got by two percent. Now
he will he will probably overperform in all of this. Right,

(01:18:37):
So whatever you're seeing in the polling, he does better
on the night, because that's what happened in twenty sixteen.
That's what happened in twenty twenty. Now, if you were
listening on the twenty third or twenty fourth thereabouts of September,
I told you that the Democrats were worried because they
did not think that Carmela had a big enough lead
in any of these swing states. And they will worried
that her lead was small enough for him to flip it.

(01:18:58):
Her lead was bigger than so in Pennsylvania on the
twenty third twenty fourth of September, she had a lead
of four to six percent, and the Democrats thought he
could potentially outperform that and win Pennsylvania. Even though she
was leading in the polling by four to six percent,
her lead in the polling is now less than one percent.
Back then, with Michigan she had a lead of one

(01:19:20):
to two percent, and in Wisconsin she had a lead
of one to two percent. She now has a lead
of less than one percent in both of those states.
Right so, in all of the states where they were
already worried about her polling lead not being enough, she
has come back to a tiny, tiny, tiny lead, which
means on the night the Orange guy overperforms, he does well,
he exceeds expectations, and he wins the swing states, which

(01:19:41):
is the only ones that he needs to worry about.
And if I remember correctly, he can win six of them,
the last one being Nevada. That doesn't matter so much.
He can win six of them, and that's his path
the victory. Brace Yourself Sex twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all
on the Business Hour with Heather Duperic Allen and my HR,
the HR solution for busy SMEs news dogs FB.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Hey, we have got a rain delay in the cricket.
Now apparently the rain has already stopped, so you know
they should resume shortly, and I hope they do because
thirteen for three I'm loving that. Heather, you'll never Trump supporters,
never trump any thing like never hyphen trump. You'll never
Trump supporters need to wake up and do a little
reading and watching. He may be orange, but for New
Zealand he is by far the best pack that's rempeate,
and it's probably an element of truth to that economically

(01:20:28):
he may well be. In fact, he may well actually
be the best thing for the US economically, which is
the most important thing. But then you do have to
deal with all the other crap that he brings. Anyway,
six twenty six, if you have been following the Solicitor
General's guidelines to prosecutors to tell them to think twice
before they put mardy offenders in jail, you might be
quite interested in the insight from Audrey Young of the

(01:20:49):
Herald Today. Now Audrey has published a piece in which
she says, apparently the Solicitor General Uner Jegosi was actually
given a little bit of a warning before she published
those guidelines that it's not a great idea to publish
the guidelines, but she published them anyway. Apparently what happened
is when she'd written up the draft guidelines where she
was like, hey, if your offender's Marty, maybe you don't

(01:21:11):
want to put him in jail. When she publish when
she wrote the draft guidelines, the Auditor General, who was
the Judith Collins, who is the only you know, person
senior to un A Jegozsi, saw the guidelines and she
she didn't love what she saw, and so she said
to UNA, but of worry about this, and UNA published

(01:21:32):
it anyway. And then so because UNA was going to
publish it anyway, Judith was like, well, I'm not going
to write a foreword for the guidelines. And normally an
Attorney General would do that. She didn't do it. Uner
published Here we are in the situation. This is what
Audrey says. It is astonishing that the seasoned Solicitor General
Uner Jegosie Casey has got herself into political difficulty over

(01:21:54):
the latest revision of the prosecution guidelines. Astonishingly, she did
not foresee the political difficulty it would place the government
in or she did foresee it and continued anyway, She
says as to the independence this is, Audrey says, as
to the independence of the Solicitor General's role, she should
not be a mouthpiece for the Attorney General being Judith Collins.
But there are limits to the independence of the SG

(01:22:17):
and her actions are inviting unnecessary tension in her relationship
with the government. At the very least, one would expect
Crown Law's general policies such as prosecution guidelines not to
conflict with the government direction. And boy, oh boy, do
they conflict with the government direction or not? Like the
government has gone out and said we don't want any
more of this race based stuff, and what is una,

(01:22:39):
go go and do it, and she goes, here's here's
a big old race based thing right in your lap.
So where that she did?

Speaker 22 (01:22:45):
That?

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
Headline's next.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Everything from SMEs to the Big Corporates, The Business Hour
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Speaker 27 (01:23:03):
Bay has resumed in the cricket like literally within the
last minute, I apologize for you, so the word literally,
but it really does underscore that it did just happen.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Can I also say shout out to Tim Southy, I
mean the guy by the way, because we didn't mention
this earlier, but the guy has just given up the
captaincy because he was being shite. And then Nick Minner
he comes out and he bowls what was his name,
Sharma for two so obviously pressures off Southey's back to
his best. Welcome back mate, Heather. One of my son's

(01:23:41):
scout leaders is a Crown law solicitor. He told me
one of their biggest unwritten rules and policies is Crown
law should never be in the news. Looks like they're
not really achieving that mark as it fails the sniff test.
That's quite right, Kevin. But also what's weird about it
is if the rule is Crown law should never be
in the news, then why did Una make a decision
that basically puts her in the news. Why because she

(01:24:02):
obviously had fair warning from Collins, who doesn't muck around
like I mean, we're not talking about like a low
level cabinet before me here, Who's gonna be like, well, well, okay,
Una got one over me. This is Judith. Judith knows
how to play the game. Are you gonna cross Judith?
Judath's gonna find a way? Like where do you think
Audre gets all her information from? It doesn't take a
rock size this to figure out you got brief by
Judith's office that Judith knew and Judith didn't write the

(01:24:25):
foreword Like that's pretty clear, right, So weird that Una
has made a decision to take on one of the
kind of like absolute ballers in cabinet and thereby land
herself in the news. Anyway, You've got to deal with
what you've got it. You've got to make your own decisions. Mate.
If that's how you want to go out in a
you know, I don't know. Maybe she wants to go
out in a ball of flames fighting for Maldi offenders

(01:24:47):
All power to her andder Brady's gonna be a thus
and ten minutes talk us through. I am sure the
reaction in the UK to the one Direction boys death
at thirty one twenty three away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Heather Duper is the Allen.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
We've got warnings of a pilot and engineer shortage. If
the government doesn't help students to pay for the training.
A two year course costs are whopping one hundred and
twenty thousand dollars. Now, that is a lot more than
students can borrow to be able to go on the course.
Simon Wallace is the chief executive of the Aviation Industry Association. Hi, Simon, hello, Ever,
so we need about one hundred pilots a year. Now,

(01:25:21):
how many are we actually training.

Speaker 21 (01:25:25):
We're training around four or five hundred students through our
flight training schools at the moment, and that includes international
students as well. That number has been as a recovering
number from COVID. Obviously, we were training a lot more
before COVID, up to one thousand. So there's many reasons
for that. And you know, one of the reasons is

(01:25:46):
around as far as domestic students is concerned, is around
the student loan cap, which has a set at seventy
thousand in tuition fees are now for training to be
a pilot or one hundred and twenty, so having to
funder a fifty thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
KI but we need one hundred and we're training five hundred.
What's the problem.

Speaker 21 (01:26:07):
Because many of those are international students and they don't
stay in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
So how many of them do we know? Would stay here.
How many of them are care.

Speaker 21 (01:26:15):
We students, so round about two hundred and fifty currently,
and those those are quite low numbers because we're only
just recovering from COVID.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
But again, and that doesn't sound bad. We need If
we need one hundred and we've got two fifty, what's the.

Speaker 21 (01:26:28):
Problem because some of those as well whither are going
overseas and not and we can't eat we can't always
retain them in New Zealand. So that's the challenge that
we've got.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
Okay, now, So as you were saying, when it cost
about one hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year to
train this and I think you can only take out
about seventy k, can't you in your student load, which
means you need your mom or your dad or yourself
to fund it. So this is just rich kids who
become pilots.

Speaker 21 (01:26:53):
Yeah, well, that that is the situation that's been created.
And yes, if you look at the pilot demographic now,
it is largely mailed, is largely from that cohort, and
we actually want to provide entry for a whole range

(01:27:14):
of New Zealanders to get into pilot training and we
can't do that with the way it is.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
At the moment, Okay, what do we do about it?

Speaker 21 (01:27:23):
So look, the government has asked us to provide some
evidence of the shortages are certainly anecdotes, and we've gone
away and done that work and we can now evidence
that there are shortages. And this is about the future, Heather,
this is about the next five to ten years, and
we're seeing you not only seeing shortages coming in New Zealand,

(01:27:43):
but obviously globally. So it's about giving a heads up
to the government that we need to get these settings changed.
If we want more kiwis coming into the pilot workforce
and engineering force, then we need to look at some
of these policy setting.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
If I remember correct in New Zealand is doing a
thing where the it sounds like they are paying for
the training, aren't they.

Speaker 21 (01:28:06):
Yeah, and that's great, and we are braud in the industry.
We are brawd in New Zealand. They've they've got thirty
they've taken thirty graduates on a cadet program. Yeah, they
can do that, they can fund that, and that is great,
but that doesn't say much about the funding and the
terstie policy settings that we've got here. That they're having
that they're being forced into doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
Yeah, I mean that's a very good point, Simon. Thank
you appreciate your time that. Simon Wallace, the chief executive
of the Aviation Industry Association New Zealand. Hey, University of Otago. Now,
actually a bit of credit to Grant Robertson on something here,
because he's holding the line on something that I think
is important. The University of Otago is coppying it a
wee bit for not taking a position on Gaza at

(01:28:48):
the moment. The students are upset, a couple of lecturers upset.
They've written an opinion piece for the Otago Daily Times
student magazine. Critic is upset and what they want is
the University of Otago to take a position on I'm
guessing condemning Israel and you know, and speaking on behalf
of the plant of the people of Gaza, blah blah blah,
all of that kind of you know stuff. The university

(01:29:11):
has decided it's which is commendable because obviously what's going
on in Gaza is devastating. The university has decided not
to it's it's not going to take a position, and
I think it's doing the right thing, because I don't
think that universities should take positions on anything, regardless of
what it is. On Gaza on jeez, I mean fluoride, vaccines,

(01:29:34):
climate change, nothing. I just don't think they should take
a position on anything at all, because universities are places
where ideas are supposed to be discussed and challenged, right,
So if they take a position, what it means is
that the people who might want to challenge that idea
feel like they can't say anything contrary to the official position.

(01:29:55):
And that's not what we want at a university. We
want all ideas to be challenged because once upon a time,
the Earth was flat until somebody challenged that idea, and
it was orthodox to say the world was flat, and
you were a nutjob if you said that the Earth
was round. Right, So we have to be open to
the idea that the things that we accept as orthodoxy

(01:30:16):
may in fact not be correct, and you've got to
challenge them. You've got to have an open mind, and
especially especially if they are Orthodox ideas. So anyway, I'm
not taking myself a position in saying this on Gaza,
I'm just saying God on Grant Robertson and the university
for holding the line on this and saying we do
not take positions on things, even if it seems like

(01:30:36):
an obvious thing to do. Seventeen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.
The Business Hour with Heather duper Clan and my Hr
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Speaker 3 (01:30:50):
The pilot's story gets complicated. Hither our son trained here
in New Zealand but has had to go overseas because
there are no jobs for low hour pilots in the
small country. Airlines are not going to take on pilots
until that between five hundred and one thousand hours and
there many of his fellow students have also gone with
him overseas. Gin thank you for that. Fourteen away from
seven into Brady UK Correspondents with us Hey Ininda, Hey,

(01:31:10):
Heaven speak to you in the Sad News about Liam Payne.
So have we heard from his family yet?

Speaker 14 (01:31:16):
There's very very little by way of reaction from family
at the moment, but a lot of tributes pouring in
from celebrities and singers and everyone in the showbiz industry
who knew Liam, and I think people here this morning.
Are really struggling to come to terms with this because
he burst onto our TV screens as a fourteen year
old boy auditioning on X Factor. Now obviously fourteen is

(01:31:40):
too young. Simon Cowell loved his voice and said, you
know what, come back in two years time, come back
to me when you're sixteen, and he did, and he
just kept going. And then Simon Kell saw something in
all five of those boys, and individually they weren't strong
enough to go off and have individual careers at the time.
Howell put them all together and made one direction and

(01:32:02):
the rest is history. And I think it's just so
sad that he'd gone to Argentina to watch his friend
from the band Niall Horan, who now has a very
successful solo career, the young Irish guy. They were pictured
the other day in Buenos Aire's and now everyone's getting
ready to bring Lim's body back and prepare for a funeral.
It's so desperately sad. Thirty one years of age, he

(01:32:23):
had a seven year old son, bear with Ryl Cole,
who is herself, of course a pop star here and
very famous.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Erycle wasn't a judge on the thing, was she She
was but not back then.

Speaker 14 (01:32:36):
I don't think she was a judge when he came through,
but she has been a judge over the years. I've
matter many times I've interviewed her. I didn't know Liam
at all, but I have to say, you know, just
it's heartbreaking, I think to see a guy everything in
front of him. There's a lot of information coming out
and now about behavior being erratic last night in the

(01:32:58):
hotel in Buenos Aire's reception calling the police to deal
with an erratic guest, and then when the police turned
up they found him dead in the courtyard.

Speaker 3 (01:33:07):
Yeah, and have you caught up on the backlash with
TMZ and posting the pictures of his body.

Speaker 14 (01:33:14):
Look, TMZ just push it too far, and I think
it's become such a beha muff of showbiz journalism. They
don't care about the impact on families. You know, there
will have been family members in the UK scouring the
internet for information last night who feasibly could have come
across that coverage. There is no place in correct responsible

(01:33:36):
journalism for that kind of picture.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
So I see that there's a big capital gains text
which is coming for people who self shares.

Speaker 14 (01:33:44):
Yes, so this is an easy hit really for the
labor government. Starmer is adamant that they're trying to just
fill the black hole and public finances left by the Conservatives.
Forty four billion enz dollars is the whisper that they
need to find. So we've already seen the win their
field payments for pensioners gone. That is gone. That's going
to bring in maybe three billion dollars of the black hole.

(01:34:07):
Rachel Reeves is the Chancellor and what they're going to do.
Capital gains at the moment is anywhere just around twenty percent,
So if you sell shares over the value of six
thousand dollars, the UK government comes calling with its handout
in the form of the taxman, saying what have you
got for me? So there is a whisper that capital
gains could go as high as thirty nine percent, from

(01:34:29):
twenty percent to thirty nine percent. I don't think they're
going to put it up that high, but ultimately what
we're seeing now is a lot of high net worth
individuals with colossal shareholdings getting rid of millions and millions
of dollars of shares before the budget in two weeks time.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
Now, how do you feel about a German taking over
the English football job.

Speaker 14 (01:34:52):
I think it's brilliant as an Irishman because I think
back to the success we had in the late eighties
and nineties with Jack Charlton, who was this burly yorkshire
Man English to the core. He came over to Ireland
and he was very blunt speaking, and I remember I
was a kid, I was a teenager. Ireland had achieved
nothing for a century in soccer and Jack Chardan turned

(01:35:14):
up and suddenly we qualified for the European Championships in
nineteen eighty eight in Germany, Italian ninety the Soccer World Cup,
we got to the quarterfinals in Rome, losing narrowly to Italy,
and then we went to the World Cup in America
in ninety four and actually beat the Italians in New Jersey.

Speaker 23 (01:35:31):
So Jack Chardan, you.

Speaker 14 (01:35:33):
Know a lot of people thought, who's this English guy
coming over here telling us how to do it. The
whole country fell in love with him and we went
on the most amazing roller coaster for years and years
and years. So good luck to Thomas Tookele in London.
He's got an eighteen month contract and it's clear he
has been brought in to win the Soccer World Cup.
England have not done it with the men since nineteen
sixty six, and I think he's you know, honestly, he

(01:35:57):
was a breath of fresh air in the news conference,
a spark. He charismatic German guy, you know, I think,
and people are saying, oh kind of Germans fit in.
But the England team he speaks English better than most
of the people who followed the England team away having
seen them on the ground. Honestly, he's going to have
no problems.

Speaker 3 (01:36:15):
There's such a there's such a funny coin from you
end it and harsh and I love it, Thank you
so much. Enda Brady, UK, correspondent to was the English
The English football fans are so funny about these things.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
I'm going to tell you there are some councils do
stupid things, but there are some things that are stupider
than others. I got a stupid one for you next
eight away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
It's all on the Business Hour with hither duplicy Ellen
and my HR the HR platform for sme.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
Usp okay, six away from seven. So, as I say,
councils just stupid things some things are more stupid than others,
and this is particularly stupid. What makes it even better
is it it's all Wellington City Council. Now, Wellington City
Council has this thing. This is the co textity to
understand about Wellington City Council.

Speaker 16 (01:37:02):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
They do all kinds of stupid things on the roads
and the and they always have the justification we're trying
to keep people safe. We're trying to keep people safe.
So everything is about trying to keep people save that
all the speed limits dropped to thirty trying to keep
people safe. Right, So they love keeping people safe on
the roads, right, So bear that in mind when I
tell you this. They decided to do a repaint of
Tenacoury Road a particular section there. This is where where

(01:37:25):
Tinacouri Road meets Saint Mary's Street. So it's just one
little section there. The Tinacorey Road, if you don't know,
is the road that the Prime Minister's residence on. It
is on it's up the hill behind Parliament kind of
runs parallel with the seashore almost, you could say, so
where Saint Mary's Street hits Tenancoury Road there, you know,
like if you can imagine extending Saint Mary's Street to

(01:37:47):
sort of the other side of the curb. That whole
block they have decided to paint it, and they've painted
it in sort of like a crisscrossy kind of thing
of yellow lines because it's part of a realignment project
aimed at relocating a bus stop due to ongoing congestion issues.
I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what
they're doing. It'scause something to do with a bus stop
that's being moved. So they decided this particular intersection they're

(01:38:09):
going to paint the whole thing. Chris Cross Yellow Lines
did this a month ago. Trouble is, the paint is
slippery in the rain, so in the last month, all
of a sudden they've had all of these accidents and
near misses and incidents and stuff. Two significant crashes have happened.
The first is a cyclist presumably slipped on this stuff
and fell over, and the other one was a motorcyclist

(01:38:30):
who came and skidded on the slippery paint and then
ended up crashing. Wellington City Council when they were first
approached about this, first of the complaints came in to say, hey, guys,
you've made a whoopsie here. They were like, no, no, no,
don't worry about it. All the materials we're using a
compliance with Mzta Whaka Kultahi standards. It's fine. So they
were like, don't deal with it. Then after the second

(01:38:53):
incident they did acknowledge that year maybe there was a
little bit of a problem with what they'd done. Now
they've decided that the new story they're telling everybody it's is,
it's temporary and it will be fixed. Unreal. I just
all I can say is who thought it was a
great idea to paint? Like everybody knows paint is more

(01:39:14):
slippery than tar seal in the rain? Why do you
go criss crossing the whole bloody thing in yellow lines?
You dickheads? Sorry for the language as Wellington City Council though.
So it's probably justified and the.

Speaker 6 (01:39:25):
Story of my life by one direction to play us
out tonight. Obviously it's the only kind of music story
in town at the moment. Very sad and shocking death
of Liam Payne. So I did a quick straw poll
of all the directions and former directions in the office.
They said this is probably the nice one to end on.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
So that's what is this a one direction song?

Speaker 6 (01:39:39):
This is a one direction song?

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
Yeah, okay, enjoy the rest of the song. See tomorrow
News Talks at.

Speaker 2 (01:39:44):
Beat It's f.

Speaker 23 (01:40:04):
Sorry this stile.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Story for more from Hither Duplessye Alan Drive.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
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