Full Show Podcast: 19 June 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Pressing the newspakers to get the real story. It's Heather
due to c Allen Drive with one New Zealand Let's
get connected news.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Falk said, be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show. And coming up today,
New Zealand Cricket's CEO on the news that Kane Williamson
will relinquish the black Caps captaincy. That new north Shore hospital.
We've learned it's going to partially open, but it's not
going to lead to any more surgery. So we'll speak
to the doctor's union about that and also speak to
a business owner in Newtown, Wellington about how much she
loves that cycle way that's got those two green MP's

(00:35):
in trouble today. Heather Dup for c Allen look on
the cricket you can hardly begrudge Kane Williamson. Can you
for finally deciding he wants to prioritize making money over
wearing the black shirt? I mean, the guy has more
than put in his time with the black Caps. He's
been in the squad since twenty ten, he's been the
captain since twenty sixteen. You can't. I mean he has
got so many records, you know, you can't fault his

(00:55):
effort and so actually is true even for Lockie Ferguson.
He's been in the squad since twenty sixteen himself. And
we've sort of got used to this idea through rugby,
haven't we, where the players do their time playing for
the squad and black and then they head off overseas
and they make their money around the world. That is
just what these two cricket boys are doing. But it's
not to say that there isn't something bigger going on here,
because there is something big going on. It is just

(01:17):
another example, I would say, of what's coming for us.
And we've been talking about this on the show now
for two years. This is the footballization of cricket, where
basically you get super tournaments like the IPL and the
South African Tea twenty Tournament, which become more important and
better spectacles than the international fixtures are because it's where

(01:39):
the money is, so they draw in the superstars. And
the first real sign that it's happening is that you
have your star players prioritize those competitions overrepresenting their country,
and we're seeing that happen. Trent Bolt has done it,
Kane Williamson is doing it Lockie Ferguson is doing it,
and let me remind you, basically the whole team did
it just a few days ago because the IPL players
apparently want to to rest rather than play a warm

(02:02):
up match before the T twenty World Cup, and so
as a result, no warm up match meant that the
black Caps were knocked out after basically two matches. That
there is a straight prioritization of the IPL overplaying for
the black Caps. Now, I think the only way for
us to fix this, I mean, we don't have to
take this lying down right. The way you can fix
them is if the rugby sorry, the cricket bosses globally

(02:23):
set aside very clear windows where they say, this is
the part of the year where the money making tournaments
can play and this is the part of the year
where the international fixtures can play it and they don't overlap,
and you get the players that you need for both
of them. Right, That's probably the only way I would
say to keep the black Caps from becoming essentially a
B squad, which is the future for us. That is
what is going to happen. The big tournaments are going

(02:46):
to have all the star players and we're just gonna
have the scraps pulled together for the international fixtures. Anyway,
on these two boys, as I say, you can't begrudge
these guys. They've put the time in, but don't overlook
what is happening here.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
We together do for see and we will talk to.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Scott Winingk about it when with us after five o'clock.
We'll put this to him now to something else. Sale
GP has pulled the plug on next year's event in Littleton.
The New Zealand Herald understands there will still be a
New Zealand event included in the sale GP schedule next year,
but as of yet nothing's been confirmed. Sale GP boss
Sir Russell Coots made it clear during this year's event
in Littleton that he wasn't happy that racing was stopped

(03:20):
because of Hector's dolphins.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
With any decision like this, there needs to be a balance.
For example, one could say that because there's a chance
of a road death, that we shouldn't be allowed to
drive on the roads. I suspect most people would conclude
that such a stance would be far too extreme and
not practical.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Lauren Aberhart is christ Church, New Zealand General manager of
destination and attraction and is with us.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Now Hey Lauren, Hey, how are you?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
I'm very well? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Ay?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
You gutted? Or did you see this coming?

Speaker 7 (03:47):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (03:47):
We're incredibly disappointed. And we've been working for years with
SALGP and worked very hard on securing and retaining the
twenty twenty five events, So of course we disappointed.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
How much money are you guys are going to lose
as a result?

Speaker 5 (04:01):
So the economic impact or the visitors been was three
point three million for the last event, so that's disappointing.
But we do have a huge partline of major events
this summer that will okay continue.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Just Deloutte has priced at about twenty one million US
dollars for the area just from this event. Are they wrong?

Speaker 5 (04:17):
No, So that's a different methodology which takes into an
economic impact, so that's also right. We consider three point
three million of new visitors beend money. On top of
that is the event delivery cost which takes it up
to twenty one million.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
What could you guys have changed to keep it?

Speaker 8 (04:34):
So?

Speaker 5 (04:34):
The Marine Mental Protection Acts nineteen seventy eight is a
national piece of legislation. It's was passed in Parliament many
many years ago and has been something that has restricted
the ability to race in Littleton because it's a marine
normal sanctuary. So complying with that piece of legislation is
largely what has created some of the operational challenges.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Was there a little bit Lauren, Was there a little
bit of discretion though that could have been used by
key players to maybe just make it a little easier,
or was that not even available under the legislation? No
discretion whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
So we explored what the options were with the Department
of Conservation. They were very actively involved and gave us
the grant to run the event on the harbor. We
wanted to work through options for that For the twenty
twenty five event that sal GP deemed that the time
frames and the potential to make changes were probably insurmountable
in that short time frame, so was four We had

(05:29):
twelve weeks, so we couldn't overturn legislation in that time
it possible.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Was it possible that under the existing legislation, Doc would
have been able to change things enough potentially for sale
GP to be okay with it.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
It's incredibly dependent on the day where the dolphins are,
I think from Doc's perspective, because we all had twelve
weeks to turn around this most recent event. There was
no way to change the legislation. Potentially for twenty twenty five.
With a little bit more time and working with the minister,
we may have been able to look at what options
were at salgem P deemed that too great a risk.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
And if we change the legislation, Lauren, would we have
been would it have been like a free for all
slice the dolphins up or would it have been just
at the edges.

Speaker 9 (06:13):
Lot.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
This is probably where I'm outside of my scope. The legislation,
as far as we understand it means that we need
to comply with it. The Department and Conservation have been
fantastic and working with us from their perspective. There's also
an opportunity here where we have raised the flight attectors
dolphins through sale GP and we're just disappointed we weren't
able to continue that partnership for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Okay, Lauren, thanks very much, really appreciated. Lauren Aberhart christ
ut Musing on general manager of Destination and Attraction, I mean, look,
there are going to be immediately it's going to be
it's going to be a binary thing for people. It's
going to be you can have the boats or all
the dolphins are going to die. That're all going to
get sliced up. And somewhere in between is where the

(06:54):
truth lies. And I suspect that there would have been
a way to amend the legislation. Take some power away
from doc, maybe take some power away from the local ere.
We do something like that to be able to make
the thing run properly. But anyway, never got there because
what do we have? What have we got lots of
in this country? Red tape, don't we And there's an
example of it right there. Anyway, he is hoping it

(07:14):
comes to Auckland. Aukland will be the happy Aukland will
be the happy recipients of the money that would have
gone to you. Christ Church. How good is this? Navidia, Nvidia,
the chip maker, has just become the most valuable company
on earth. That was yesterday's news. Today's news. We've just
made a bucket load of money offer thanks to the
super Fund. How good. At the start of the year,
the Superfund had about nine hundred and ninety one million

(07:37):
dollars worth of shares that is now worth one point
seventy five billion dollars, Thank you very much. AI. We
will take that also, just because you're probably interested in
what other stuff the super funds invested in, and it's
got major holdings in all of the other members of
the Magnificent Seven. This is as of at the start
of this year, so things will have changed in the
last six months. But at the start of this year,

(07:58):
our shares and Apple were worth one point four billion dollars.
How shares in Microsoft worth one point two billion dollars,
in Alphabet three hundred and five million dollars, in Tesla
three hundred and thirty eight million dollars. I wonder if
we voted did did we vote to give him the money?

Speaker 10 (08:12):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:13):
We voted against giving this Elon the money. Yep, Classic
New Zealand. No Elon, you cannot have the money. Meta
three hundred and thirty million dollars in Amazon two hundred
and forty five million dollars. Quarter past.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither duplicy allan
drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for business
use talks.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
It'd be eighteen past five four four.

Speaker 10 (08:36):
Let's try that one again.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Eighteen past four Darcy Waldgrave's wait here, how are you hello? Darcian?
Very well, thank you. So Patrick's back for the Blues.
So the Blues are going to win.

Speaker 10 (08:45):
Paddy tu Ups has made the return. It's Patrick two
Boty for those who don't know his nickname. This is
very similar to what Sam Whitelook Whitelock did last year
when he decided to miraculously come back from injury and
play a full eighty minutes for the Crusaders to win
that title. Of course that was Scott Robinson's decision. I'm
sure that Ian Foster wasn't overly pleased him. The fact

(09:05):
the hold on, that's one of our key all Blacks.
Don't you dare break him? So this time around the
medics he said it was going to be sixty seven
weeks on going to be a couple of weeks. So
nah and has media ligaments. Fine, should be right with Testil.
He's going to play. Paddy plainly does not want to
not be involved. Ye possibly the only Blue success in
many many years. He wants to be there. So I

(09:26):
don't see Scott Robinson, the Orblack's coach who pulled the
same trick last year, go hey, what are you doing
your guy? See Goose Gander, gotcha, you do whatever you want.
It's great for Patrick. I wouldn't say it definitely means
the Blues are going to win. There's so much going
in the Blues's favor. Forty four thousand people, and the
Chiefs just love taking big brother scalps, don't they. They've

(09:49):
been particularly adpted over the last few years. So this
is going to be exciting. I just hope he survives.
I hope he gets through the eighty minutes, and I
hope for all Black prospects that maybe after sixty minutes
stern or depends if they're winning on mirthful vern pulls
them from the park.

Speaker 11 (10:04):
DAEs he.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I don't want to be the guy who said I
told you so, Okay, but to August twenty twenty, I
told you that this was going to happen to cricket.

Speaker 10 (10:14):
And now look, how can you remember back four years?

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Oh my gosh, twenty twenty two. Sorry, that wasn't you,
That was me twenty twenty two. It's only two years,
only two years. And the reason I can name the
date is because there was an article in the Economists
called the Footballization of cricket. I read it and talked
to you about it, and what did you say exactly?
I said, well, this is the way that our cricket
team's going to go right. All of our good players
are going to end up playing for the IPL and

(10:38):
the big, big money making tournaments and stuff, and the
black Caps will come secondary.

Speaker 10 (10:41):
Slowly but surely.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
At pills A White started with ghetto law.

Speaker 10 (10:46):
How long can players play for the national team before
being given dispensation through contract to actually not play for
their national site? And I would say every different player
there is a different set of rules for it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's about how how much we need them basically right.

Speaker 10 (11:04):
And it's their negotiations. Heath Mills joins us in New
Zealand Cricket Players Association boss Tonight on Sports Talk Up
after Seven to talk about that Bolt's case, wood Enstin's case.
You're hardly going to say you guys don't deserve it. It's like,
get yourself go, you want to come back and play
a week bit for US Fantastic does.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Not extend the same courtesy to Lucky Ferguson.

Speaker 10 (11:22):
Well, depends where Lucky Ferguson sits in the peaking order.
If they deemed to think that he is valuable enough
to let him go away. The bigger question here is
not this, it's what the schedule internationally looks like for
global cricket and who's running this because as we know,
all the money is in T twenty. Plainly obvious. His
T twenty leads popping up every a lot of them,

(11:42):
backed by the BCCI, bought a control cricket absolutely and
they've got all the money. So they've got all the
control of the golden rule. It's fairly simple. So what
does the ICC do as far as putting an essentially
meaningless bilateral series jammed in between them where players really
don't want to play for the risk of break themselves,
thus taking them away from consideration. And there's T twenty series,

(12:05):
so that's got to be looked at. On that global level.
All the players have to come together. This is the
boards and the franchises and everybody else and go right,
we need international cricket because that produce the superstars, which
in turn go on to be superstars in T twenty cricket.
So yeah, how are they organized their windows? Is there
a one to organize those windows? Who's control of those windows?

(12:27):
There are so many questions around us, and Heath is
going to join us this evening to talk about that
because I get the sense nothing's happened for a very
long time. Why would anything change in the future.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
To be fair though, To be fair, the South African
Cricket tournament has only just started up, so you could
argue that we've sort of seen the signs of it,
but it's really accelerating now. So now the pressures.

Speaker 10 (12:48):
We saw the signs last year, didn't we because it
all sort of this, it all started up and then
they send over a B team who I'm doing pretty
well for you.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Look at this Hither. You're right, I remember you saying
that this will be the demise of the national team.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
The question is was that twenty twenty or twenty twenty
two texted?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Do you remember that in twenty That's when I said
it was in saying it for he aged Well, thank you,
I thought so too, Darcy, appreciate it. Looking forward to
your show at seven with Heath Mills. It's Darcy water
Grave sports stalk host, the.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Name you trust to get the answers you need.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Heather duper c Allen Drive with One New Zealand let's
get connected and news talk as that'd be heather.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
For goodness sake, let's stop thinking about all the damn
money all the damn time. There are hardly any Hector's
dolphins left. Geez, well, okay, here the christ Huts didn't
work hard enough. Let this minority pro dolphin group ride
shotgun shotgun. Well, I'll just look whatever. I will take
the money. I will take Christ Chuchers money and I
will use it for fun things in Auckland insteads of
we don't have a dolphin problem. Very happy to report that.

(13:47):
Now got the old justin Timberlake mug shot. Hey did
you see that?

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Woo?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Those are some red eyes, aren't they? And just pointing
out those eyes are pin pricks. If you know what
I mean, then you know what I mean. And if
you know what I mean, then you'll also understand why
he absolutely flat out refused to do a chemical test,
isn't he? He's like, no, I don't want you to
see what I've got in my system. He said he
only had a martini when he was pulled up aid

(14:13):
and only have a martini. Just look at those eyes anyway.
The cop said his eyes were bloodshot and glassy, and
there was a strong odor of an alcoholic beverage emanating
from his breath. He was unable to divide attention, he
had slowed speech, he was unsteady a foot. He performed
poorly on all standardized field sobriety tests. He's been released
without bail, and he's got a court date that's scheduled

(14:33):
for July twenty six, Dan Mitchines, and we'll talk us
through what's going on here very shortly.

Speaker 12 (14:37):
And yet Heather still can't take a bad photo, can he?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Oh my gosh, what a babe. Yes, I mean, it's
just he's in a mug shot, and you're like, you're
still handsome, Like you look absolutely like you've had a
hard night, but you're handsome. He is a handsome man. Anyway.
The other thing I need to tell you about is
that hospital on the north Shore has finally we've got it.
We've got this is the new one that's been sitting
empty for god knows how long, got a finally got

(15:02):
the heads up. It's going to be opening in a
couple of weeks. But nobody's any better off for this
because what they're doing is in order to do surgery
at the new hospital. They're having to shut down surgery
at the old hospital. So it's literally a game of
shuffling the deck chairs and just making it look like
the building's operating when really the building's not operating at all.
Because when that when five percent of that building's operating,

(15:24):
five percent of the other buildings not operating because they're
shuffling staff. They can't afford to run the place. We'll
talk to the doctor's union about at ten past five.
Headlines are next.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home. Hither dup to see
allan drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and
news talk as they'd be sure you can conger.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
In so high can conger right? Varrysopa is going to
be a US in ten minutes time and New Zealand
Cricket CEO is with us after five on the fact
that Can Williamson has now relinquished the captaincy. Hither I
was the one who told Milford to put our money
into nvideo. I sincerely hope you put some of your

(16:11):
own money into it too. And speaking of which, we're
going to talk to Shares. He's about this just the
amazing rise that's going on there. And how long? Because
I mean the AI thing is hardly at the end
of its You know, these people make computer chips, right,
need the computer chips for the AI, and the AI
thing has got ages to run yet. So how much
further can these shares go? We'll have a chat to them.
Quarter past five. Heather Victor's working on my street. It's

(16:33):
a colder sack of twelve hourses long. All the parking
has coned off, maybe one hundred cones and there's a
man stop go for a colder sack. Allan once again
red tape. How crazy red tape in this country. Christopher Luxen,
by the way, has admitted that he could have chosen
his words better rather than saying that the delegations who
went with labor were c list, but he's not backing

(16:56):
away from the sentiment. A He says, what I'm saying
to you very clearly is that when we come to
these delegations, I AM putting huge effort into it to
make sure that I've got the business delegation right. When
you look here, we have brought almost thirty cheers and CEOs,
senior folk who've done a great job. Now somebody is
text through and said have a look at the trade delegation.

(17:16):
Jacinda took away in July twenty twenty and then had
a crack at some of the people on it. So
I went to have a look at the trade delegation.
I'll read producer Laura says, I'm not allowed to can't.
I'm not allowed to say anything. I'm not allowed to
pass comment on the trade delegation myself because she thinks
it's poor form for us to be talking down any
New Zealand businesses. And for once, I'm gonna listen to her.

(17:36):
So I'm just gonna later, I'm just going to read
you the trade delegation. You just see how many of
those names you recognize? Okay, twenty three away from.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Five it's the world wires on news talks, it'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
The Boeing CEO has had a grilling from a US
Senate committee today. There have been a series of safety
issues on Boeing's aircraft, and the company has allegedly threatened
whistlebowers and so on. Here's Missouri Senator Josh Hawley questioning
the Boeing CEO.

Speaker 13 (18:00):
We've had multiple whistleblowers come before this committee and allege
that Bowing is cutting every possible corner on quality and safety,
and yet you're getting paid thirty three million dollars a year.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Shorty, Senator, we have increased our quality inspectors significantly.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Russian President Vladimir Puson has flown into North Korea late
at night local time for his state visit. Korean President
Kim Jong un greeted a person on the tarmac personally.
Former member of the US National Security Council says Russia's
dependence on North Korea for weapons will give him a
big advantage of negotiations.

Speaker 14 (18:37):
Kim Jolan could run a pretty tough deal with Putin,
saying that he wants higher end military technology that could
then threaten the United States through more sophisticated intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
And finally, Florida woman has called the cops on herself
while trying to steal a car from a dealership.

Speaker 15 (18:55):
Because I'm trying to steal a car that's not legally mine,
so you're going to make a report, I'm.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Reporting me now.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
She seemed to be under the impression that if she
told the authorities what she was doing, that would make
it Okay, legally that's why she was reporting me. That's
obviously not how it works. But the police did arrive
before the woman could actually steal anything, so she's only,
unfortunately been charged with trespassing.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business Dan.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Mitchinson US correspondents with US now Hey Dan Hey, Heather.
On a scale of one to ten, how tough was
the time that the Boeing CEO had um?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I guess it depends on how you look at it.

Speaker 16 (19:36):
I mean, doesn't it because he's still going to walk
away with that thirty something million dollar paycheck. We're talking
about David Calhoun, who was before the Senate Subcommittee on
Investigations today and he apologized to the families of the
victims who died in the Boeing seven thirty seven Max
crashes or two more than five years ago. He hasn't
spoken directly, he said, to any of the whistleblowers who

(20:01):
have alleged to have taken shortcuts and jeopardize the safety.
But I you know, the big takeaway that I got
from this was the knowledge that the company had retaliated
against employees who have raised safety concerns, and you know,
many of the families who showed up at this hearing said, hey, there's.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Got to be some kind of criminal prosecution.

Speaker 16 (20:18):
They say, the executives have been held accountable, and like
you just heard their outraged at Calhoun's salary, which is
almost thirty three million dollars.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
A ye, yeah. And so did he outline exactly what
kind of action they were taking against whistleblowers?

Speaker 16 (20:32):
Not exactly. I think he kind of talked his way
around that a little bit, but he has you know,
said that, okay, we did offer this kind of retaliation
and that could be a number of things, from you know,
a demotion in your position to being let go when
they did a number round of cutoffs during the pandemic.
You know how these things work. I mean, there's always

(20:54):
a way around it without it actually saying well we're
retaliating against Yah.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, fair enough. How did the apology go down?

Speaker 16 (21:01):
I don't think anybody, I think they took it at
face value. I think most of the people that you know,
thought it was just him, you know, saying what he
had to say, and you know, nothing's going to be
taken away from him. I mean, it's not like the
board or Boeing is going to cut his salary by
any means. But you know, there are changes at the
at the top, and I think there will be more
investigations into this. And not to mention, a lot of

(21:22):
people are concerned, especially going into summer over here, about
flying some of these aircraft.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Jan is justin Timberlake having a hard time or something.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I don't know what's going on with him.

Speaker 16 (21:31):
I mean, he was arrested early this morning in sag Harbor,
New York for allegedly driving while intoxicated, and then a
couple of hours later he made his first court appearance
and he's he's been arraigned on one count of driving
while under the influence, and he was released without bail.
I mean, you know, there's no big deal about that.
Everybody knows who he is and where he's going and whatever.
And according to the you know, a statement that the

(21:53):
Hollywood Reporter got, I guess there was an officer that
saw him failing to stop at a posted stops sign
and then he couldn't stay in his lane and so
they pulled him over. And you know, oh, it's justin Timberlake,
and he had bloodshot eyes and he couldn't speak, and
he was slurred, and he felt all the sobriety tests.
So he was cuffed and taken in by police, and
he'll have another court appearance coming up on the I

(22:13):
think the twenty.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Sixth of July.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Apart from remember that, there was that that prisoner who
became a model after he was released because he was
such a hot. Apart from him, this is the hottest
nug shot yet, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
You know, it wasn't bad.

Speaker 16 (22:26):
I mean, I guess you could say it was pred
forgot about the guy you just mentioned about until you
said it.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
I've got it filed in my head. Oh, it wasn't bad, Dan,
Who was better? How was your much?

Speaker 17 (22:38):
One of the two?

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (22:40):
Gosh, you know if the guy didn't smile that the
first one, he was okay, there was something I can't
remember if he was missing some teeth or not when
he smiled, or what it was about him.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
It was kind of strange, but you know, fair enough. Hey,
so what's going on in Wyoming? Are they gonna They're
not seriously gonna lict an ai Bot as the mayor?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Are they Okay?

Speaker 16 (22:58):
There's there's I mean, the guy that's kind of saying
this is that maybe this is kind of a stunt,
But the question is can a bot powered by artificial intelligence?
We're on a city. So this guy named Victor Miller
says he thinks so. So he filed paperwork for him
in his customized chat bot named Virtual Virtual Integrated Citizen,
which is VIC to run from air of Cheyenne, Wyoming.

(23:21):
So he filed out all the paperwork, and he says
he's going to serve as sort of an avatar for
the BOST so he'll do the ribbon cutting stuff. Bot's
going to handle all the decision making if he wins
and advances to the November election. But there's a speed
bump in this because the Secretary of State of Wyoming
says this is not legally. He says, it is very
clear that we have a law that AI is not

(23:42):
eligible as a candidate in any office. But the guy
that's trying this is saying, you know what, this bought
could be impartial. He could make somewhat rationalisms, but then
you have others that say, you know what, data alone
doesn't result in better decision making, especially if you don't
have real life experience or common sense, which is kind
of ironic when you their common sense and politicians, but

(24:02):
you get what he's seeing.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Dan, thank you very much appreciated, mate, Look after yourself.
Talk to you on Friday. That's Dan Mitche's and US
correspondent Heather. If that woman that reported herself was in
New Zealand, she would have started out with a sentence
of home d and then would have had been would
have been discounted down to nothing and then discounted down
even further to the point that the dealership would have
had to give her the car. Thank you, Nick. Sixteen
away from five.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
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Speaker 3 (24:26):
Certainty very sore, Senior political correspondence with US. Now, Hey Barry,
good afternoon, Heather. What do you make of Chris Luxe?
And see list of comments.

Speaker 18 (24:34):
I'll tell you what now he'll be wishing he never
made them, because look, this is to me an example
of an apprentice Prime minister. You don't look at former
trade missions and say that you know they are c
list because you're insulting the people went on them, and

(24:55):
you may be praising the one he's got with them
at the.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Moment, you're insulting your own voters.

Speaker 18 (24:59):
Ah, well, ind you are. And look, I've got to
say that he was in a tight spot and he
had to justify what he thinks are good trades people.
But look, I went on many trade missions over the
years that I was working out of Parliament, went on
all of Jaina Durn's trade missions, and I used to

(25:20):
sit in the seat look as scarce at the people
that were on them, thinking what are you doing here?
What they were doing there and what some on his
trip will be no doubt doing there as well, is
that they get on a plane with the Prime Minister
and are able to get his ear and socialize with him.
And I've got to say, looking at Jasinda Durn's trade missions,

(25:43):
there were many in that category signing very little business.
This one, you've got to say to Japan has signed
significant business, but it's been overshadowed by a broken down
plane and his se list of comments. So he'll reflecting
on that now as they board the plane to come

(26:03):
home tonight. Before he left though, he's meeting with the
Japanese Prime minister. I think as we speak, but Luxon
now can sides he could have expressed himself in a
better way.

Speaker 19 (26:13):
I could maybe could have expressed it in a different
or better way. But what I'm saying to you very
clearly is that when we come to these delegations, I
am putting huge effort into it to make sure that
I've got the business delegation right, We've got the media
delegation right, and we've actually got the political delegation and
the political engagement right. I'm really proud of actually what
we delivered in Southeast Asia.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
On that trip.

Speaker 19 (26:33):
I'm very proud of what we've delivered in this engagement
with Japan, which is an important relationship. And so when
I look at this delegation that we have been able
to form, we have New Zealand's leading cheers and CEOs here.
We have a huge number of them, the biggest number
that we've ever brought to Japan before. And we actually
are getting the business done exactly as I wanted us
to be able to do.

Speaker 18 (26:51):
Okay, there was no questions, please, That was from a
former press secretary of John Keyes. No more questions, but
you know he was in the tight spot. And I've
got to say much of that stand up from journalists
were more worried about one in particular, about not being
able to ask questions of the Chinese premiere when he

(27:14):
was here last week. Now, this was put to Laxon
in Japan. For goodness sake, don't they come up now? Well,
because apparently she was pushed to one side by officials.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Now the one in Australia.

Speaker 18 (27:26):
Yeah, no, no, this is traveling with John Key on
this particular trade mission. I was sorry John Key Chris
Laxon because she had been pushed around. He said, Layer
can play it. I'm totally unaware of that. Of course
he would be as well. But the media rather than
worrying about themselves, and he said he's got the right
mix of the media. Well, in the end, it's the

(27:47):
media that want to go on them and he accepts
whoever comes up, but for them to complain about it.
Every time I was told we weren't allowed to ask
a question of a visiting dignitary. Of course, course you'd
hear the raspy voice from behind yelling.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Out a question. You just disobey the rules.

Speaker 18 (28:05):
Of course, you disobey the rules. It's a press conference.
And I remember one asking him this is why he's
no doubt called sleepy Joe. When Joe Biden was here
the final final question at the press conference, and we
were told we weren't allowed to ask questions of the
the Vice President of the United States. I yelled out
a question and Joe Biden walked down from the podium,

(28:27):
came up and said, I can't hear what did you
say the microphone? I was back up on the podium.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
That breaking the rules. That's why I'm just Sinder famously
talks about how much she loved you when when she
was the Prime minister. What do we do about the
MPs right, because there is this call to allow the
security guards of Parliament good.

Speaker 12 (28:47):
Arrest and so on.

Speaker 18 (28:48):
Well, there's not a great problem at Parliament. Let's face it.
You know, there's been the odd breach of security there,
but not a lot. I mean, it used to be
we used to call them Dad's Army security at Parliament.
Now they're much younger and they're probably much fitter. But
it's not over to the speaker to say you can

(29:08):
now have the ability to arrest and detain people. That's
got to be through an Act of Parliament and the
police are the only people. Or I guess you can
do a citizen's arrest.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Give it a go.

Speaker 18 (29:19):
See how you get on. But no, I don't think
that'll happen. But I think you know, the biggest risk
we saw at Parliament. You may remember it in twenty
and seventeen mid twenty and seventeen a cop left a
loaded gun on a bathroom at Parliament. He kept his
job and no charges were late following an investigation. So

(29:40):
that would have been a danger. But that is the police.
So Jerry wants the DPS, which is there to look
after the Prime Minister and ministers that feel they need it.
The biggest problem, I guess is out in the electorates.
But I heard Jenny Anderson on Mike Hoskins this morning
saying that, look, they have these little button they can
carry around. One press of the button and the cops

(30:03):
are alerted. Well it seems pretty.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Good to me, but Barry, to be fair, somebody comes
in with a weapon, you have to press the button
and wait for the cops. That's a while.

Speaker 18 (30:11):
Well, yeah, I guess it is, but I suppose you know,
you go, well, it hasn't happened, and I guess they're vulnerable,
But then aren't we all vulnerable and all sick?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Key we attitude right, appreciate it very so for senior
political correspondence seven away from five.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

Speaker 20 (30:34):
Breakfast this speaking, Jerry Browne wants to do security for
politicians when they're out in the community. Is also considering
giving parliament security guards the power to arrest and detain
Political commentator Peter Duns with us on this.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Gear is right and it's been a long standing issue
because most of the time out in the community, Mpeter
by themselves don't have security with them and they are
at great risk. So I think you've got to draw
a line between protecting their privacy but also protecting the
publish right to have access to it.

Speaker 20 (30:57):
We would be one of the most free wheeling parliaments
in the world in terms of security, wouldn't we.

Speaker 7 (31:01):
I think we are and means that's a good thing,
or do I want to compromise that. On the other hand,
we've got to recognize that we're in an environment where
sometimes those things can be a bit of a luxury.

Speaker 20 (31:10):
Back tomorrow at six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Maybe's Real Estate Newstalk zb.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Here the Maid of Mine went on a trade delegation
with mze Mzte he runs as Trading Entsprose. He runs
one hundred and sixty million dollar business. He reckons seventy
five of them were tiny. Seventy five percent of them
were tiny startups worth Chicken Feed. Okay, here you go,
because somebody said earliergo and have a look at the
July twenty twenty two trade delegation who went with Jacinda
and you know and then Castle aspersions. I'm not going

(31:37):
to cast any aspersions because these people are listeners to
the show. Love every one of these businesses, but you
decide for yourself if you've heard of them before. These
are the companies that traveled with Jacinda Banker, financial education
FIRMSY Legal Industry, Software, Groove Mental Health Wellbeing, co Go
Carbon Management, Education, Perfect Channel Mental Health Wellbeing, The Mind

(32:01):
Lab Education Health Point. I think I've heard of them MYHR,
love my HR. They advertise with the show. They're great.
Heard of them many many times, Chasy's love them. They're
on the show in twenty minutes time. Take Communications zero.
Heard of them, Mint Innovation, Clean Tech, tourism industry out here,
or heard of them business events industry out here or
I never heard of them, New Zealand, Marty Tourism Garage Project,

(32:24):
they do beer Geesen, they do wine, Cureder, Honey, Oku
herbal Teas, Reefed and Distilling Company, Pure Food Company, Van
Dyke Fine Foods, Zephyr Cider, Becker warrener Marne. You've heard
of those two obviously united machinists. Cowtow heard of them,
nature Baby, love them. I'll take nature Baby gifts. By
the way, just if you feel like you need to

(32:45):
give me a gift, just nature Baby, because that's going
to bankrupt ub.

Speaker 12 (32:48):
Not sealisters, they are a listers for Suffer.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Cider are a listers. Ants will take that gift and
pioneer capital. There you go, not casting any aspersions. You
just decided for yourself. Okay, right, So we're going to
talk about the cricket next Scott Wenning. By the way,
just to remind you, that's because Laura is looking at
me and she told me not to and she's looking
at me right now like shut up, So I will.
We're gonna talk about the cricket next, and then we're

(33:12):
going to talk about the hospital.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
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Speaker 3 (33:33):
Said be but cricket us Today, Kane Williamson is stepping
down as the All Black as the black Caps captain. Rather,
he's also turned down a central contract with New Zealand Cricket.
He's going to be switching to a casual contract so
that he can play in overseas T twenty leagues over
the next year whilst still being available for black Caps selection.
Scott weiningc is New Zealand Cricket CEO. Hey, Scott, Hi,

(33:54):
did you see this coming?

Speaker 6 (33:57):
We've been talking with Caine for a while, so it
didn't come as a surprise.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
No, how long have you been talking to him about
it for.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
About a month? Probably?

Speaker 10 (34:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
What about the Lockey Ferguson decision? Did you see that coming?

Speaker 9 (34:12):
Again?

Speaker 6 (34:13):
You know when players sort of come towards the end
of their careers, you know, we know that they're going
to be looking at other opportunities. So I wasn't aware
Lockie was going to turn down a contract. But again
it didn't really come as much of his surprise.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
He's not really at the end of his career.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Is he.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Well, he's been well, he's sort of, you know, mid thirties,
has been playing for New Zealand for well over ten
years and as a pace bowler, you know, you're you're
probably he's probably in the latter years, so to speak.
I hope Locke's not going to be offended by me
saying that, obviously, but you know, but look, there's still

(34:51):
every opportunity that Locke will play again for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah. I was going to ask you that because you
have said in the press release that you committed to
pick and Kine for the squad, but are you also
committed to picking Lockee.

Speaker 6 (35:05):
So Cain will be on a casual playing agreement and
we've talked to him about the matches that he's available for,
so he's, as it turns out, he's essentially available for
the bulk of the international cricket that we've got coming
up this season. We haven't had a specific conversation with
Lockeye about what cricket he is available for.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (35:30):
He just hasn't raised that with us, And to be fair,
we wouldn't actually be talking about this now until the
contracts come out. But one of your fellow journalists managed
to get a scoop. So we've had we've had to
come out now and that WI always explains what's going
on now.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
This is the future, isn't it, Scott? I mean, our
best players are going to put the overseas money ahead
of the black shirt into the future, aren't they.

Speaker 9 (35:54):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (35:55):
Actually no, I think you know, the black Caps, certainly
the bulk of them still prioritize playing for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
But how can you say that they didn't even prioritize
playing for New Zealand and the T twenty World Cup
the other day?

Speaker 9 (36:10):
Of course they did.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
They didn't they do any warm up games?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Then?

Speaker 6 (36:15):
Sorry I missed that.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Why didn't they do any warm up games?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Then?

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Well, look there was a confluence of issues around getting
the team over there around the end of the I
p L.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
So yeah, that was that.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
That was nothing to do with their commitment to playing
for New Zealand. It was just unfortunate that we couldn't
actually get in the practice practice games and before the
tournament started.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Do you think do we need to maybe get the
cricket bosses to do some sort of delineation between what
is you know this. This part of the calendar is
for playing for your national squad and this part of
the calendar is for making your big bucks. Would that help?

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yeah, it's certainly would and that that's where I'd like
to see us to go. You know, I think it's
it's really important for the future of cricket that we
get some windows agreed which prioritize international cricket with domestic
cricket playing around international cricket.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Okay, might be the solution. Hey, Scott, thank you very much,
appreciate it, Scott. When in New Zealand Cricket CEO.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Heller do for see Allen.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Do you remember the new North Shore Hospital building in Auckland,
one hundred and fifty beds building has been all ready
to go for ages but he's been sitting there, just
lights on but empty. Well, it's now be confirmed that
it is going to partially open in a couple of weeks.
But get this, no extra patients will be treated. And
that's because in order to open this hospital, theaters an
award in the old hospital have to shut. Sarah Dalton

(37:41):
from the Association of Salary Medical Specialists with us, Hey Sarah, good,
how are you. I'm very well, thank you. This is
just shuffling deck chairs, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (37:49):
It absolutely is shuffling dick chairs.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Yep, what's the problem here? Can they just not hire
any more staff?

Speaker 21 (37:56):
So there is a bit of a recruitment freeze in
place at the moment. They'll say it's not a freeze,
but it's as close as you can get without seeing ice.
So yeah, recruitment has really slowed down. Money is very tight.
They haven't managed to meet their target to meet their
end budget for the year and it's paying me attention
to the health budget announcement in recent weeks. There is

(38:20):
no more money for health now.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
I thought last week when we spoke to Health New
Zealand they said that the freeze would be lifted this week.
Is that what we're expecting?

Speaker 21 (38:30):
So what seems to be happening is that all of
the jobs had to go up to the National Director
of Hospital and Specialist Services for approval. Now that is
being shifted to regional committees, but all of the jobs
are still having to go to those committees for approval.
So best case scenario is clinical roles will still be

(38:51):
approved for recruitment, but it's going to take even longer.

Speaker 9 (38:54):
Than it already.

Speaker 21 (38:55):
And of course the other existing issue is that we've
got lots of services who've had jobs being a ties
for a while and they're not being filled. People aren't coming,
they don't want them.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
How long do you think before we're able to start
getting enough staff to actually make this building like increase
how much how many surgeries.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
We can do.

Speaker 21 (39:12):
I'm really concerned about how long it might be. We've
just been having a look at some of the indicators
or planned care, and so it'll be mainly elective services
that were going on in that building as far as
I'm aware. And in the last year, the time it
takes so for patients who've been given a commitment to
treatment but are waiting longer than four months, that's gone

(39:32):
up by twenty five percent just in the last year.
That's thirty four thousand people who've been told you're going
to get your procedure but they haven't got it within
the four months. And the number of people waiting for
fair specialist appointments in the last year has gone up
by thirty four percent. That's nearly seventy thousand people not
being seen within that four month window. So I can't

(39:53):
see it being sixty any times soon. I went and
listened to the Select Committee discussion about the health estemits
the other day and it's pretty remustling.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, it does sound like it. Sarah, Thank you very
much appreciated that, Sarah Dalton Association of Salaried Medical Specialists,
Heather du Heather, you said you'd name some of those
school principles who are taking the piss on those overseas
professional development holidays. You mentioned eighty of them. Okay, so
yesterday we didn't name it because we wanted to check
it out. And good thing we did that because somebody
texted and said it was the principle of a school
in white Tatter, So we called the principle of the

(40:24):
school in white Tetter today. Principal's not there, principles in Wellington.
We're like Wellington, is he?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
So?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
No, the principle is in Wellington. No, it's actually is
this truth? Not in not in Fiji, not at the Hilton.
As it turns out, at all, the principal got one
of those flyers to go to the Fiji Hilton and
has sent us the flyer and has sent it, has
pointed out the but that he particularly so he isn't it.
I'm not misgendering this person. So he as Laura spoke

(40:54):
to him, and he's pointed out the thing that he
enjoyed the most in the flyer, which is the bit
where it's School of Transformation tells them all the cool
things they're going to do. Point number two, they're going
to talk about Ranga terra hoe order enhance your knowledge
in the areas of physical and mental health, stress management,
work life balance, mindfulness, and high performance school leadership. Note Worthy,

(41:16):
it says, I am quoting you verbatim. Note worthy. Conference
workshops take place each morning only. Hey what about that
each morning only? So what you could do your cocktails
with your husband or your wife in the afternoon. How
nice and have your little jolly. Anyway, that guy has
given us another name, so we're going to track down
that person tomorrow, so there might be another installment quarter past.

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Speaker 2 (42:32):
Ever, do for Celan Heather?

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Who is this guy trying a kit? Of course they're
prioritizing the dollars above the country, Craig, of course they are.
If Australia can have a warm up match before the
T twenty World Cup and we can't. I think you
know where the priorities lie. Anyway, Let's tell let's deal
with money. It is our priorities as well. Right nineteen
past five, the computer chip company in Vidia has officially
become the world's most valuable company. Shares climb three and

(42:55):
a half percent overnight, taking its market capitalization to get
this three point three five trillion US dollars, which means
it's overtaken both Apple and Microsoft. Leighton Roberts is the
co founder of Shares.

Speaker 9 (43:06):
He's and with us.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Now, hey, Layson, here, this is because of AI, isn't
it It is?

Speaker 17 (43:12):
Yeah, it's absolutely what it's about.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
I mean, given that we're only at the start of AI,
you could argue the potential for this company must be big,
mustn't it.

Speaker 17 (43:21):
That's definitely what's been priced at the moment. But what's
particularly interesting is the numbers seem to be reflecting the
price appreciation that we're seeing. So yeah, we'll be superintendents
paid out over the next couple of years.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Are you worried though about you know, like when you
get a big growth in a company like this, you
have to just whow and just check it out. Are
you worried about how quickly it's gone out because it's
gone from one one trillion to two trillion in just
nine months.

Speaker 17 (43:48):
Look, I've just seen adoption of a technology like what's
happened with AI as quickly as it has and also
for it returns value to businesses as quickly as it has.
So it's very hard to judge, and that's sort of
a people to do individually. But from where I'm sitting,
it's potentially a lot of excitements still to come.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
If you were in charge of the super fund right now,
they're stake and it has gone from just shy of
a billion to one point seventy five billion, would you say, sell, sell,
sell sell while you're high.

Speaker 17 (44:16):
I'm pretty happy I don't have that pressure to come
this and I think that more informant for that posision.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Fair enough, Layton, thank you very much, appreciated, Layton Roberts
Charesy's co founder. It sounds like the Auckland trains are
back up and running again. I don't know if you're
aware of the I mean, who even catches Auckland trays,
who even catches public transport in Auckland anymore? Because surely
by now the whole thing has become so unreliable you're
just like, never mind, I'll just do I'll just do
a green party, get in my car. All the trains

(44:42):
completely stop today because of a track fault near Middle More.
Apparently it was a points failure. Whatever the hell that means.
I don't even care anymore what it means. It just
means it's broken. And I'm like the heat points failure
all the same stuff. Even though the trains are now
running and have been running since about two o'clock this afternoon,
they will still have a delays and cancelations throughout the evening,
and they will have replacement buses operating, of course. And

(45:03):
I just will remind you that Auckland Transport's boss, Dean Kimpton,
I think, maybe as recently as last week said public service,
public transport rocks. It works really well ninety nine percent
of the time. No, it doesn't. Five to twenty one.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Heather Dupasicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's Heather duper Cy Allen drive with One New Zealand
let's get connected and news talk.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
As they'd be.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Heather, I think you need to jump on a plane
to Fiji to do some door stopping.

Speaker 5 (45:32):
Do you know what?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I think that's a I think I need to go
to the boss and say we can't track down any
of these principles I'm going to have to go to
Fiji to get the whole lot of them all at once,
and that's very important. And then I said, but I
don't think I'll stay at the Hilton. If that's okay,
I'll just stan at the Radison next door. I'll just
go to the Hilton or the Sofa Tower, whatever, the
one that just had the referve, I'll go stay there.
Five twenty four the old Greens, ay, let's talk about

(45:54):
the Greens busted asking around to borrow car parks and
Wellington after being the very people who took those car parks.
So let me tell you a little bit about this
car park saga in Newtown, Wellington. So you just can
completely understand how much the Greens need to suffer for
this hypocrisy. So what happened is that two Green MPs,

(46:14):
Tamotha Pool and Julian Jenta are really big fangirls of
cycleways in general, but in particular the new cycle way
down Adelaide Road in Newtown. Now, the effect of this
cycle way is that building the cycle way has meant
the loss of one hundred and fifty on street car parks.
That's a lot for a suburb. Right for just one
streetch It was bitterly opposed by local businesses. They were

(46:35):
really worried that they would lose foot traffic as Rosa
as a result of it, But Julian said to them, none, under,
you don't need to worry. We've seen around the world
the exact same fear and attitude from retailers. In truth,
it tends to increase foot traffic, she said to them.
It was also bitterly opposed by the staff at the
hospital just up the road, who said, where are they
going to park now? Because a whole bunch of them

(46:55):
driving from far away suburbs, and they work weird shifts
as nurses and stuff like that, and they're not on
big money so they can't afford expensive car parking, and
they were relying on these on street car parks. What
are they going to do now. The loss of the
car parking actually did hurt businesses. The Greengrosser's sales are
down fifty percent. Stack's Furniture had to relocate its shop

(47:16):
up the road to be able to get closer to parking.
So imagine the surprise of Stack's Furniture when the Green
staffers who work at the shared Electorate office of Julie
and Jenter and Tamotha Paul down the road turned up
asking to borrow car parks because they were going to
have a big event on a Friday night and they
needed it for their guests. Imagine the surprise of these

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businesses that suddenly, oh, we've got some car Oh you
want to use our car parks. So you can understand
why both Stacks and Repco next door said no, you
can't have our car parks. There's even more to this story,
I camp so I was told weeks ago that the
Electorate office was actually trying to sort out car parks
already weeks ago. Apparently they wanted two car parks, which

(47:56):
are around the corner on King Street. They wanted them
to designated short term car parks rather than long term
car parks, so that the car parks wouldn't just be
filled by somebody who was there all day, but could
kind of be ret rotated frequently and freed up for
you know, regularly for their office visitors. Remember and by
the way that's happened, Remember one of the MP's in
that office, Tamatha Paul, is the very one who wants

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Wellington to be a car free city by next year.
And what I think is interesting about this is how
much trouble the cycle way is causing the Greens, because remember,
this cycle way is the very reason that that fight
between Julie and Jenta and the florist happened. This is
what they were arguing about. And what I also think
is interesting is how hostile the businesses in Wellington are
to the Greens now, because well, how about hypocrisy? That

(48:41):
would make me pretty hostile to classic Greens the way
they want a revolution as long as they don't have
to do the mucky to get it together.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Do for ce Ellen's box ashore.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Oh, by the way, we're going to speak to the
Green grosser. She's going to be with us in maybe
ten minutes or so. And yep. So I asked the
Greens was it true that you asked for the car
parks around the corner to be designated short term. They
sent me a statement there have been no formal discussions
with the council in regards to using parking on King Street. No,
there were no formal discussions. I know there were no

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formal discussions and it's not what I asked you anyway.
I think the Greengrosser has also heard the details. She's
going to be with us shortly. As I say, just
after the headlines and boxer shorts. There is a trend
at the moment for boxer shorts to be worn as
short shorts, like as in your outer wear shorts. This
is taking people by surprise. I'm actually going to tell

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you why you do not need to be alarmed by
this and why actually this could be the solution to
all of the uncomfortable gene short you've been wearing forever.
You don't need to wear that anymore. You should be
a boxer shorts, but the specific kind. So bear with
me and I'll explain Headline's next.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Hard questions.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Strong opinion Heather due for see Ellen drive with one
New Zealand let's get connected and used talk and said.

Speaker 13 (49:59):
Be again.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Listen.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
As we mentioned earlier in the show, Ladd flew into
North Korea. The hot spot that is. I don't know
about you, but like that's one place I was like,
that's where I want to go. That's a banging place
I want to go to. I can't wait to have
them see the nightlife, and North Korea can't wait to
be there. And so he's obviously the same. He flew
in and it probably reminded him of the old days
of the USSR. You know, got met by Kim at

(50:35):
the airport because Kim doesn't get a lot of visitors nowadays.
I don't know if you know that, so he's got
a lot of free time. So he turned up at
the airport to meet with Ladd and they're going to
have a nice little court it or a little time together.
But there are serious implications from these two absolute losers
meeting with each other, and so we're going to talk
to Robert Patman about it. It's gonna be about six o'clock.
Give us the lowdown on that. We've got standing by
for the huddle, Jack Tamee and the inimitable Paddy Gower.

(50:58):
They'll be with us shortly right now, it's twenty three
away from six.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Heather doul Yes, I ever told you before.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
The Greens have been busted asking to use the private
car parks of some Wellington retailers for a party in Wellington,
which is so hypocritical because they were the ones who
took the car parking away so they could build one
of their favorite little cycle ways in the area. Right
Urmila Barner is the chairwoman of the Independent Business and
Residential Group. And for the record, not the greengrocer.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
But the what iurmina, the general grocer, the general.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Grosser, because the green grocer is on side with the Greens?
Am I right?

Speaker 13 (51:30):
Mm hmmm?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
And not you though?

Speaker 14 (51:32):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Why not?

Speaker 22 (51:35):
I guess I have a Shakespearean relationship with the cycle lanes.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Why do you call it Shakespearean?

Speaker 20 (51:42):
Well?

Speaker 22 (51:42):
How much do I love thee? I mean, you know,
we've got a spectrum out here which is pretty dire.
Businesses are down sixty eighty one hundred percent. They're either moving,
closing or heading into liquidation. And that's nothing to do
with recession. It's the car park remover And you sort
of like, hello.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
How do you know though, because I mean, like I
it's difficult for everybody, right, So how do you know
that it's the cycle way doing it well?

Speaker 22 (52:10):
In new Town we were ahead of the pack. Went
in two years ago and businesses were already reporting that
dire situation. The Newtown's been that the cycle Aid's been planted,
the parks have been removed. It's a ghost town. Like
you know, the uber drivers don't like getting into hospital
because there's fucking traffic to try and get here, So

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the meals that are going out to the poor residences
that want to eat are cold.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
What did you think that?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Yeah? What did you think when you heard that Tamotha
Paul and Julian Jeni's staff has been going around asking
to use private car parks have affected businesses?

Speaker 22 (52:46):
What did I think? Well, you know, what do they
say about hipocrisy? There's no forgiveness for that sort of evil?

Speaker 14 (52:53):
Is there really quite right?

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Do you know anything about this situation? Because I had
heard that they had asked this office had asked for
the council to redesignate a couple of car parks around
the corner from their office, to make them shorter terms
so that their visitors could use them. Did you hear
about that?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Well?

Speaker 22 (53:09):
Rumor has it that during a break at the Regulatory
Process meeting on the eighteenth of April, Jordie Rodgers was
speaking to the senior Wellington City Council offices with the
current Green Deputy Mayor Lori Foon about parking for the
Green MPs on King Street and King Streets the side

(53:29):
street of Adelaide Road. So we're all sitting here in
Newtown as residents. There's business owners outpatients, hospital workers thinking well,
hang on, we can't get to work because of you.
We can't get to the hospital because of you. We
can't get to the businesses we like when we want
to because of you. So this whole thing is hypocritical

(53:52):
and underscored with a golden pen. Ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Was that the eighteenth of April?

Speaker 22 (53:57):
Was it? Apparently?

Speaker 15 (53:59):
So it's the rumor.

Speaker 22 (54:00):
So I've chased it up with one of the senior counselors,
so hopefully we'll get a response shortly.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Irmla, thank you very much and best of luck fighting
this absolutely brain dead situation. That's Irmla Barna, the chairwoman
of the Independent Business and Residential Group. I'll just remind
you so the conversation happens between Jordie and Laurie on
the eighteenth of April at the regulatory meeting. But what
did the Greens say to me in the statement? There
have been no formal discussions with the council in regards
to using parking on King Street. No formal discussions, but

(54:29):
the informal ones they work though A nineteen away from.

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Speaker 3 (54:38):
By the way, the reason I know that that is
true because actually spoke to the person who overWe heard
and witnessed the conversation. So there you go with me.
Now on the huddle we have Paddy Gower of News
Hub and Jack Tame, host of Q and A and
Saturday mornings on News Talks. There be Hello you two.

Speaker 11 (54:51):
Hello, kay guys, we'll come back to this one.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
I just want to talk about Lux and though Paddy,
what do you make of lux and calling the previous
delegation see lists.

Speaker 23 (54:59):
Well, someone who went on you know about thirty of
those traps and was very formally in the Z list,
you know when I was a journalist and we literally
were in the minivan that was behind the little car
that was behind the five cars that eventually got to
the front of the metorcade in there. So it's a
proud Sea lister. Look, I think good on them. You know,

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it is about taking it is about taking a listers.
And and you know, I've got no problem with the
mining that I was a Z lister and you know
he's just he's just been he's just been honest. And
if there's a few little egos out there cracked because
they're on the C list, I say, as a proud
Z lister who used to sleep in the back of
the minivan, get over yourself. But I also just walked

(55:40):
past Barry Soper on the way and who went on
about four hundred and ninety five of them.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I think he got one of those little like crew
club ones for that particular plane. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 23 (55:49):
But he was the best because he was in the
Z list with the journos, but he acted like he
was as and pested.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
The A list so that they basically let him in. Yeah,
and I have seen that action. What do you reckon, Jack?

Speaker 11 (56:03):
I'm just reading through some of the potential sea listers
from the last trip. So if we're to go from
the last trip of Chrissipkins, we're talking about sea listers
including the CEO of the New Zealand, the CEO of
Auckland Airport, the CEO of Les Mills, the chair of
Sea Lord, the chief executive of Where to Workshop, the
chair of Fonterra.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
So yeah, I mean, but what about the rest of
the list.

Speaker 11 (56:27):
Say you're well about Christopher Luxon, but he's got a
high standards this designation. So it just, I mean, it
just seems to me like such an utterly avoidable mini scandal,
Like what a what a dumb thing to say, What
an incredibly dumb thing to say, especially when you when
you when you venerate your relationship with the business community,

(56:48):
like and for what gain like a little slight against
the previous government. Sure, but it just just seems like
a real, a real oversight, and one that I'm sure
he disappears in our memories as quick as possible.

Speaker 23 (57:00):
Yes, yes, I agree, I agree with you, dear Jack.
I think though, that he just told the truth. That's
what he'd say in the you know, in his office,
he would have said, I want a listers on my trip.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Now here's the thing, though, Patty and I've been I've
been about this today, right, this is his personality. Even
before he came into parliament, even sorry into the leadership.
Somebody in the corporate world said to me, watch out
for Chris Luckxen's mouth because he runs his mouth off
about people. And then Nick Minette, they hear about it
and they're upset about it. Right, So he is known
for this. So this is his personality. So does he
just I mean, if this is the stuff he's going

(57:31):
to if he's just going to tell the truth, he
needs to own it. Doesn't he just so apologize for.

Speaker 23 (57:35):
So what you say in the office to the public,
just keep going.

Speaker 11 (57:39):
There's no zero upside to slagging off the previous delegation.
Talk up this delegation as.

Speaker 9 (57:45):
Much as you like.

Speaker 11 (57:46):
But I mean, maybe we just the greatest delegation of
all time. But the zero upside.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
But maybe we But but this is like asking Trump
not to be a buffoon, right Like they are what
they are. And if you if this is what Luckson's like,
he just needs to lean into it.

Speaker 11 (58:03):
Authenticity is a rare commodity in politics. I agree with
that notion, But I don't know Trump when he doesn't
manages to be funny somehow, And I'm not sure that
Christopher Luxon has necessarily managed that. I don't think for
the guy who constantly talks up his business experience and
his business connections, I just sit the zero upside to

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being caught out.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
I feel so bad for comparing the two of them.
I apologize to Luxeon for comparing him to Trump. What
do you think, Patty of Cain Williamson giving up the
captaincy to chase the big dollar.

Speaker 23 (58:34):
Well, it just means that cricket and international sport are
changing and money rules. What people have said all the
way along about about all sports is that money will
eventually take over, and that's exactly what's happened here. We're
sending in other sports like golf, and no doubt we'll
see it in rugby which is sold which has sold

(58:54):
out as well. And this is what's coming. Get used
to it.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Couldn't agree more, Jack, I want you to take We'll
get it after the break.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
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Speaker 1 (59:03):
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Speaker 3 (59:07):
Right, you're back on the huddle, Patty Gower, Jack, Tame Jack.
What do you make of the Cane Williamson news.

Speaker 9 (59:12):
Well, I'm a cricket tragic, which means I'm a Cane
Williamson tragic. And I think if anyone deserves a big
pay day in New Zealand cricket, it is that man
for everything he has given us over the last few years.
Patty's totally right. This is the way that all sport
is going.

Speaker 11 (59:27):
Players are incentivised to chase the big bucks, and increasingly
there's maybe not the kind of loyalty to some of
the national national teams that there once.

Speaker 9 (59:36):
Might have been.

Speaker 11 (59:37):
That being said, for me, it all comes down to
Test cricket. So long as we can still have players
like Caane Williamson playing Test cricket and playing Test cricket
in New Zealand, I'm okay, I don't think you can
rely on that.

Speaker 21 (59:49):
Well, I see the T.

Speaker 11 (59:51):
Twenties is definitely going to be away, but apparently under
this new arrangement he should still be available for the
hanging the cricket?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Is that Jack? That's very specific to this year because
this we've got the English tour and it wraps up
by I think it's the fourteenth of December, and the
South African Tea twenty things starts like early early January.
So that means if he keeps doing that every single year,
he's not going to be there for many of the
Test games, the Test matches if they're in January.

Speaker 9 (01:00:15):
That's exactly right. It totally defends on the schedule.

Speaker 11 (01:00:17):
Let that he said he might he might be in
a position then to make a choice, do I want
to play in the South African Tea twenty competition or
play tests, and someone like came Williamson, I reckon, there's
still a test purist at heart. So I'm going to
cross my fingers and hope that when it comes down
to a choice between playing tests for New Zealand and
playing T twenties overseas, he's going to choose tests. But yep,
this is the way of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Yeah, he's hoping we're going to be left with We're
going to be left with the sea listers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I was going let us say that though we can't.

Speaker 23 (01:00:44):
We can't call people's sea list. It's been banned as Yeah,
well apparently it's bad, okay, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Yeah, well it's good to know. Thank you for clearing
that up for us, Paddy Jack. The Greens are hypocrites,
are they not?

Speaker 11 (01:00:55):
Yes, they are totally And it's pretty funny. I mean,
can you I just imagine being imagine being Julianne Genter
when the staffer had to come in and say, hey,
you know that meeting we were hoping to have, well
we were just trying to, you know, use some initiative
and get some parks so everyone could get their nice
and conveniently and it turned out that we might have

(01:01:16):
upset someone that knew, or someone else in the party
might have come across in the past. Of course, of course,
the hypocrites, I mean, we are all hypocrites. I don't
think this is the.

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
Worst scandal in the world, but yeah, it just goes
to show that, Yeah, as great as bike planes are,
sometimes car parks are actually that much more convenience.

Speaker 23 (01:01:35):
Well, the Greens are hypocrites, full stop. That's got nothing
to do with what's happened here, just in general hypocrites,
you know, because I actually came past Juliane's office earlier
this week and there was a very very big high
it was incredibly high green horse out the back, and
they've fallen right off it. They've fallen off their green

(01:01:57):
high horse, and it's just incredibly funny. And if I
was Julianne, I'd be staying right away from that cycle way.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
They can't because they're electorate office is right by the
side of the way, and the angry, angry retailers are there.

Speaker 23 (01:02:11):
No one, no one can stay away from that cycle
way and it's it's actually a tragedy what it's done
to the businesses there. And I agree to the business.
I agree with the business owner that was on before.
But yeah, Julienne should maybe book another nice long holiday
on the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Jet stay that femininely Jack. I don't have a problem
with these boxer shorts that that people are starting to
wear as just like our like normal shorts.

Speaker 9 (01:02:31):
Do you have at but I can look at them, Yeah,
it's all right.

Speaker 11 (01:02:35):
When my international models are wearing them whatever, right, or
wearing them on the catwalk, I don't think it's I mean,
I'm not going to cast any aspersions when it comes
to Paddy's physique. In fact, I know that he's more
than happy to take to the streets in skin tight
light or the kind.

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
Of guy with a confidence to pull them off.

Speaker 11 (01:02:53):
Given the nature of my legs, given my pathetic chicken legs,
there is no way on earth you would catch me
wearing them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I don't have a problem with them, Paddy, because do
you know what they look like? They literally look like
Aggasy's tennis shorts from the eighties, like George Michael would
have done a wham video in one of them. There's
nothing offensive, but they're just cotton shorts.

Speaker 23 (01:03:13):
Well, I sort of come from the era where it
was fashionable to wear boxer shorts and the rugby shorts.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Oh and with the top sticking out, yeah yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:03:21):
Yeah, which is sort of silky ones, which is a
sort of a very random sort of era. So so
I'm no one to judge. I'd probably put the Canterbury
rugby shorts on over the top of them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Would you. I'm going to go down to cotton On.
I'm going to buy a pair for myself and I'm
going to wear them in the summer. The ten dollars,
it's a bargain. It's great, guys, Thank you very much.
I really appreciate it. Anyway, that's just a fashion tree.
You need to get up on you because that's what
we do. Help you out with that kind of stuff.
On the show, Patty Gower, Jack Tamar Huddle This evening
seven away from six, on your smart.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Speaker, on the iHeart app, and in your car on
your drive home.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Heather duple s Allen Drive with One New Zealand one
Giant Leap for Business News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Heather, can you please go through just Cinda's delegation list,
because Chris Hipkins at least had half a brain. I
did go through Justinda's delegation list. Before I did it,
still under instructions not to say anything. I went through it. Okay.
This is the delegation that is on this current trip.
If you heard Discinder's one, then compare it to this

(01:04:21):
one asb Air New Zealand, A and z as co
Auckland UNI Services, Uricon, christ Church International Airport, Eastland Group, Fabrum,
Fonterra Go forty GNS, Science Japan, New Zealand Business Council,
Connor Morrison, NITAHU, Tourism New Zealand Inc. New Zealand, Rugby Commercial,
New Zealand Superfund, pan Pack Forest Products, Rocket Lab sec

(01:04:46):
Sequent Silver Fern Farms, Still in Capital Letters, Tartu a
cooperative dairy company, Tarfucki, National Airspace Center, Tourism Holdings Limited,
University of Canterbury and Zesbury. I'll leave that one to you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
How about this, ah, If you want some more good news,
this is good news, but like get a hurry on
New Zealand in order to make this good news work
for you. We've just been named as one of the
top safe havens for global millionaires. Like a top safe haven, right,
there's eight of them, so report by an investment migration
firm Henley and partners who you will have heard of
because they are the ones who do that annual process
that they rank the passports every year. We talk about

(01:05:22):
this stuff, right, So these guys predict that we will
have more millionaires and billionaires this year than ever before
moving to new countries. They reckon one hundred and twenty
eight thousand millionaires alone will move and that eclipses the
previous record which was last year, which is one hundred
and twenty thousand millionaires. And the reason these guys are
wanting to move is because they've got the ability, right.
They see the threat of war, they see poverty rising

(01:05:44):
in their countries, they see social upheaval coming for whatever reason,
maybe they don't like the politics or whatever, and as
a result, they're just upsticks and go to the list
of the countries that they want to go to are
the UAE, USA, Singapore, Canada, and Australia. Now that's not
the list that we're on. We are on the safe
haven list. The firm defines a safe haven as a
sovereign state with high levels of safety and security that

(01:06:07):
remain largely shielded from the world's political and economic problems,
and they call it the safe haven eight for some reason,
and I've looked everywhere. I can only find seven of
the countries in the eight but anyway, here they are
New Zealand, Australia, Switzerland, Singapore, the UAE, Malta and Monaco.
And the important thing for us is that's awesome that

(01:06:28):
we're on that list. They're probably going to want to
buy a house Winston, So if we could just organize
that thing where they can actually bring their money in
and buy something so they could be here, that'd be
great because we need their money. I'm very happy for
their money. Robert Patman. Next on vlad meeting with Kim
News Talks ab.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Oh, I give my keeping track of where the money
is flowing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
With the Business Hour with Hither Duplicylan and my hr
on News Talks ab.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Evening. Coming up in the next hour, We're going to
have a chat to Janative Trainey about that SEALSS comment
from the Prime Minister. She's on the trip with them.
We're going to speak to A and Z also about
the ETX auction failing and Lululeman. I need to get
you across what's going on there because we're going to
talk to Milford Acid management about that right now at
seven past six now, Russian President Vladimir Putin has arrived
in North Korea for the meeting with Kim Jong un.

(01:07:25):
Putin reportedly opened talks by thanking Kim for his support
on Ukraine and saying he admired Pyongyang's transformation over the
past twenty four years. None of us can confirm that
anything's happened there. We haven't seen it, Kim Jong un said,
relations between their two countries are entering a period of
new prosperity. International relations professor Robert Patman from Otago Universities
with us. Hey, Robert, what do they want from each other?

Speaker 14 (01:07:48):
Ah?

Speaker 9 (01:07:49):
It's a sort of dictator solidarity meeting, really, isn't it. Basically?
In September last year, Kim Jong uns met Putin in
vladith Ostok, and that marked the beginning of well, not
the beginning, but a landmark in North Korean military support

(01:08:10):
for Russian the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and both South
Korean and Ukrainian sources have confirmed that North Korean ballistic
missiles as well as a variety of munitions have turned
up on the battlefield there. And I think mister Putin's
visit on this occasion is to consolidate that North Korean

(01:08:31):
support military support as in return, I think North Korea
will want mister Putin to provide a variety of advanced technologies,
particularly for their space program, but also would want a
substantial flow of Russian oil and food products this country.
North Korea under this dictatorship often struggles to feed its population.

(01:08:54):
So and also I think the North Korean regime would
be looking for whole currency payments as well for their
support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And to be
you know, mister Putin wasn't exaggerating when he said that
he was very, very grateful for North Korean support, because
I think North Korea is one of the few countries

(01:09:16):
that from the outset backed the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
In quite unambiguous terms.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
Does Kim have the upper hand he had, given that
he has the weapons and Russia needs the weapons.

Speaker 9 (01:09:29):
I saw it's upper hand. Both states are, you know,
they both find themselves the subject of pretty comprehensive sanctions,
and one of mister Putin's remarks were that they were
combating the West. And the interesting thing is that you know,
mister Putin in a sense is saying that in their

(01:09:52):
opposition to the West, that they're winning. And I suppose
in a sense it's not surprising that mister Putin is
looking for support from North Korea. He does need as
a matter of urgency at military support. He gets it
from indirectly from China, but he's also getting it directly
from North Korea. China's official position is neutral, which complicates

(01:10:17):
the open provision of military aid. North Korea has no
such reservations, and it's another authority chairman regime in Iran,
which also provides support for Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
So we are getting increasingly involved as a country, New
Zealand with what is going on in North Korea. I mean,
we've been having a look at what they're doing with
the Poseidon and we're now seending it in Zidiya, Frigid
and so on to help monitor. Is this the West
ratcheting up pressure on these guys.

Speaker 9 (01:10:46):
I think it's a recognition by New Zealand that there's
a lot at stake in the Ukraine conflict and North
Korea is an actor, it's a player in the Russian
invasion of Ukraine. This is a This is an act
which tore up the UN Charter as a direct threat
to New Zealand's interests. After all, mister Putin gets away

(01:11:06):
with annecting Land from a liberal democratic neighbor which has
given up its nuclear weapons. That has direct ramifications for
New Zealand. After all, we conduct our relations with countries
around the world. We trade more than one hundred on
the basis of rules. If mister Putin succeeds in showing
that might is right, that has ramifications for us.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Hey, our navy said that they had seen some sort
of you know, anti sanctioned trading that was going on,
where the ships were hooking up with each other in
the sea and transferring coal and so on. If they
were who's trading with North Korea? Who would that be?

Speaker 9 (01:11:42):
Well, that's a good question. That's the first I've heard
of that report, So I couldn't really comment on that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Heather, Well, you need to listen to the show more.

Speaker 9 (01:11:50):
I certainly will after this, But Mark exams That's probably
why I've been a bit distracted. But I don't know.
I mean, there's just a lot of information coming in.
I think regime's under sanctions kind the variety of ways
around it, and mister Putin has evaded the intent of
Western sanctions largely through India. In China, who've both you know,

(01:12:16):
bought Russian oil, and Russia is largely dependent on the
export fossil fuels. So you know, there's a number of
countries which you come to mind that may be helping
North Korea in that situation. Yeah, but yeah, you know,
I can't be more specific that unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Robert, thank you as always for the expertise appreciated. It's
Robert Patman, International Relations Professor, Otago University. I might have
put you wrong earlier when I said that that Putin
had arrived late at night. It was not at all
late at night. It was the middle of the blinking day,
arrived on his plane. And you know, you know how
I love a little bit of North Korean music because
there's nothing like, there's nothing that Kim loves more than
making the music sound really upbeat. So you think everything's

(01:12:55):
just absolutely rosy over in North Korea. Never listened to
the din that bloody Vladimir had to endure when he arrived.
This is what he walks out on the red carpet to.
That would define you, wouldn't it. It also would serve

(01:13:17):
to make you sprint that red carpet, because there's nothing
that makes you kind of pick up your pace more
than fast music. So but maybe that's what Chem was like.
Keem is like, I cannot be bothered dealing with Vlad
and all of his gladhanding and stuff. Play some loud music,
make it fast. Let's get this over and done with.

(01:13:38):
What a happy country as a lovely place.

Speaker 10 (01:13:41):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Lulu Lemon I was telling, you've got to get across this.
Lulu Lemon was a market darling. It was drewing really
well through COVID. To spare, everybody's wearing the Lululemon. Everybody
sat around in those leggings and stuff, had a great
time winter brunch in it, you know afterwards, like wearing
Mo Lulu Lemon. Everybody loved it. Lately, though the shares
have fallen by forty percent, question is why, what's going on?
And then the second question, of course is can they

(01:14:02):
recover from this? Because this is a really significant retreachment
in the share price. We'll talk to Milford Asset Management
in about ten minutes. Next up, Jenati Traine fourteen plus six.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's headed duplicy
ellen with the business hours. Thanks to my HR, the
HR platform for SME on newstalksb hey.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
In the wake of the COVID pandemic, many employees have
got used to working remotely at least some of the time,
but plenty of employers now really like their team back
in the workplace more often to boost collaboration and culture
and efficiency and so on. So question, of course is
how can businesses go about bringing workers into the office
without coming across like the big bad boss who's taking
away employee freedoms. Well, to get to the bottom of it,
my HR spoke to employment and legal experts about the

(01:14:44):
new hybrid work dynamic and things that employers should consider
if they want their people back in the workplace.

Speaker 11 (01:14:49):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Firstly, what you need is to balance the business and
the employee needs.

Speaker 10 (01:14:53):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
There are some legal considerations because while you can demand
a worker be at the location specified in their employment agreement,
employ but also have the right to request flexible working arrangements.
And the best approach is to work with people to
get the best out of them at working at home.
And if you want to increase teamwork and productivity, getting
staff in on certain days may work best. Providing transition
time on any change in requirements will also help people

(01:15:15):
adapt now they've written an article about it. To read
the article on returning to the office and hybrid work,
visit myhr dot com forward slash resources full of insights
into the benefits of working remotely versus in the office,
as well as examples of how some larger key we
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(01:15:35):
of employment and people management. Heather duplic Allen eighteen pass
six Scott, A little update for you on the Fiji Hilton.
We have comms from the boss. I'm going to get
that to your eighteen past sex genative trainee Herald Wellington
Business editor with us now. But currently where are you, Jane?
Where in Japan?

Speaker 15 (01:15:54):
Hey, Heather, I am in Tokyo and we are in
this beautiful sort of office area filing our stories. We
have the New Zealand Business Delegation next door. Lots of
people in suits, shaking hands. Business still is being done.
It's a great, great vibe here in Tokyo.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Is the Business Delegation just fizzing about the fact that
they're the A Listers.

Speaker 15 (01:16:15):
They must be, I mean, how good would that be
to be the A Listers? But the awkward thing here
is that some of the people on the current business
delegation were on delegations when Labor was in government. So
you know, there'll be some people here thinking, oh, well,
why has the Prime minister effectively called us C listers
and tag alongs as well? And people who couldn't convert

(01:16:38):
talk into business during previous trips, do you think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
I mean, I can see what Luxen's trying to do here, right,
He's trying to talk himself up as the big business
guy as opposed to Jacinda, who was just sort of like,
well it's cool, the kind of like the cool prime Minister.
But in the crossfire of this are people who you know,
he's having a crack at, right, not so smart.

Speaker 15 (01:16:58):
Well yeah, look, that's the thing. It's one thing to
criticize labor, but it's another thing to criticize businesses ahead
of a trip aimed at selling businesses to the world.
I think that the timing of this was really poor.
And you know, even if Chris pha Luxen believed he
had a good point to make. You know, this business
delegation undoubtedly is excellent. We have the CEO's chairs from

(01:17:20):
some of the largest companies in New Zealand. Even if
he thought he was making a point, it is just
you know, absolutely the wrong thing to say, you know,
a real kick in the guts for businesses that went
on previous trips also just just naive. And the thing
with us is that he didn't. It wasn't just a
slip of the tongue to Newstalk z'd be. He made

(01:17:41):
the point to my colleague Jason Walls, and then he
made similar comments to me during interview I had with
him ahead of the trip. So you know, it's not
a good look. And another point that I had thought.
I went on a business trip when Jasinda Radun was
Prime Minister and there were in fact smaller businesses that went,
like you know New Zealand fashion brands and luxury goods,

(01:18:04):
these sorts of things, special types of food, handbags, so on.
But those for those smaller businesses, those trips are pretty valuable.
It's harder for them to get into new markets alone
than it is for Sponterra or an am Z. You know,
these guys already have the connections around the world, so
you know there is still value I believe in doing

(01:18:25):
trade trips with smaller companies.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
You know, you make some really excellent points, they enjoy
the rest of the trip and thanks for your time.
That's Gnative Trainee, The Herald's Wellington Business editor over in Japan. Okay, so,
as I told you, we've got comms from the boss
who is running. This is the boss of Growth Culture,
the outfit that is running the leadership, the professional Leadership

(01:18:47):
development trip for the eighty Principles to the Fiji Hilton
High Heather. This is Marshall High Heather Slash Laura, Sorry
I missed your call. We are so so excited about
our MAHI and the transformation we have been seeing in Fiji.
I am happy to do an interview with Simon Barnett

(01:19:09):
only for news talks. What do we not know about
Simon and his relationship with Marshall, who's taken the people
to the Fiji Hilton. Now here's the question for you, Laura.
Does Simon actually want to do an interview with Marshall?
We don't know. Okay, we are going to make Simon

(01:19:30):
do an interview with Marshall tomorrow, aren't we because I
feel like I don't. I do not think that I
have hierarchy over Simon, but I feel like we can
mount a pretty good argument to make the boss forsome.
So we're going to force Simon. We're gonna make the
We're gonna make the boss for Simon to talk to
Marshall tomorrow. Hopefully Marshall's available tomorrow. I don't know if
he could take some time away from the pool of
the cocktails, but that would be really handy because we

(01:19:53):
know that not doing any learning in the afternoon, because
that's what the pamphlet says, it's in the morning only,
and fortunately the boys are in the afternoon anyway. Anyway,
what Marshall has not thought through, though, is that I'm
going to write Simon's questions for him. So I'm gonna
help Simon with this, okay, because Simon, you and I
know Simon's a nice man and I'm not. And so
I'm gonna write my nasty little questions and I'm going

(01:20:14):
to make Simon read them in his nice voice to Marshall,
and we're going to get the answers that we want. Anyway,
and maybe I can even do one of those things.
We'll get like an earpiece and I talk to someone
asking that question. See if we'll see what we can do.
We're gonna we're gonna make this.

Speaker 12 (01:20:25):
Work for what We'll kind of spin it that we're
helping them with their show. We'll do our show for
the day, but hey, we've also got some time to
help you guys out with your show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Just you know, takes twist, plot twist. Do you think
that we could have a caller call into Simon's show
while Marshall is being interviewed and that caller be Heather
with a question the from Pons and he's got a
question and I'll put on a fake voice. Anyway, stay
tuned because this could get very interesting between Marshall and myself.
It's a little Minatretoi six twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Clunging the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather Dup
see Ellen with them business hours. Thanks to my HR,
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Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Heather Ai fake voice. This is the best idea I've
heard because what I could do is I could ask
Ai to just make me sound like Simon Bonney as
is possible. You just feed a bit of Simon Barnett
into it and then you just you basically just type
the questions out and it will ask the questions. I mean,
I'm going to this like we're gonna have to do
a lot of work overnight. It's basically gonna have to
learn how to use AI. I still don't really know,

(01:21:26):
so anyway, wish me luck now. The ETS auction unfortunately
failed today as you yesterday, as you will well know. No,
it was today, wasn't it? It was today? It failed anyway,
that's the most important point that you need to know.
The floor price was something like sixty four sixty four
dollars per carbon unit, which is way higher than the

(01:21:46):
price units have been trading it in the secondary market.
And absolutely nobody participated today. And why would they because
the whole thing is still up in the air. Why
would you buy into something that you don't really understand
which way it's going. The current government's taken a completely
different approach to the last government. So we're going to
talk to A and Z about that very shortly. That's
a fair bit of money that's just been foregone unfortunately
for the country. Got a little bit of good news

(01:22:07):
for you, we could potentially have another football player from
New Zealand heading off to an English Premier League club
by the end of the week. Apparently Nottingham Forest is
interested in this young guy called Marco Staminich. He's Serbian.
He's Serbian New Zealander. I think he's playing in Serbia
at the moment, in like some sort of a club
over there. He's also an all Whites midfielder. Right, so

(01:22:28):
we've definitely got a claim on this young man. He's
apparently agreed terms on a contract with Nottingham Forest. It's
supposed to be confirmed in the coming days. If he
signs the steal, it'll be worth ten million dollars. That
would be the highest sum ever paid for a Kiwi
footballer other than Chris Wood, which was fifty million dollars.
How good is that for all of the football kids
in this country. That is the second footballer from New

(01:22:49):
Zealand in a month. Going to the EPL headlines next.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
There is inflation down again in the UK will go
to Gavin Groves. It's below two percent now in the year.
We're going to go to Gavin Gray in about ten
minutes time. Also need to get you across the ets.
Elksin failing and Lululemon just really quickly. The New York
Post has broken as the outfit that broke the story
about Justin Timberlake's arrest this morning. They are now also
reporting that the officer who arrested him was so young

(01:23:36):
he didn't even know who Justin Timberlake was. Just to
remind you how big Justin Timberlake is. He's won a
Grammy ten times, so he is a He.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Was part of in Sync.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
He was going out with with What's the one in
Chefdt Britney Spears Hayes a big deal. Apparently, Justin when
he was arrested, said under his breath, this is going
to ruin the tour, and the cop replied, what tour?
And Justin said, the World Tour makes you feel old.
Day twenty three away from seven Together to Seal Siphany Bachelor,

(01:24:08):
Milford Asset Management, Hey, Stephanie Hi, Heather Steffanie. I see
Lululemon's shares are down something like forty percent At the moment,
I thought that they were once a market darling, weren't they?

Speaker 8 (01:24:18):
Yeah, that's right. So Lululemon has historically been a much
loved name for investors. It was really the pioneer of
at leisure when it was founded over twenty five years ago,
and it did really well during COVID. You know, people
stopped going out, they were working from home wearing comfied clothes.
I know, I pretty much lived in my Lululemon leggings.
And shares have done well historically. So for example, from

(01:24:40):
twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, Lulu shares delivered three
hundred and twenty percent, or about three times what the
broader US market delivered. But this year, as you mentioned,
it had a poor quarterly result in March and that
caused a big sell off. So shares are now down
about forty.

Speaker 3 (01:24:56):
Percent this year. What's going on? Why is this happening?

Speaker 8 (01:25:00):
Well, the big concern is around growth in the US.
Lulu is actually a Canadian brand, but you can think
of the US as Lulu's home market, and growth there
has slowed in the last couple of quarters from double
digit down to single digit. Now there are a couple
of factors that Lulu's management team have called out over
the last two result calls. The first one is that
they've talked about inventory mis steps. They said they didn't

(01:25:23):
have enough small sizes, they didn't have enough color, they
didn't have enough of the popular bags to satisfy customer demand.
But they're essentially saying the brand and the popularity is
fine and if they'd had the right product available, they
would have done much better. They also mentioned general macro weakness,
and we've seen that here in New Zealand and around
the world. With that painful cost of living, people are

(01:25:43):
cutting back in other more discretionary areas of spend. And
there are also questions around whether it just had such
a great run during COVID, you know, with people stocking
up on active wear, and now people are out and
about wearing thermal clothes again, so maybe they just don't
need to spend their money at Lulummm.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
What about competition, because as you said, they they were
the ones who started the athletes, but everybody else is
doing that as well now, aren't they.

Speaker 8 (01:26:05):
Yeah, So that's the other piece of the puzzle that
investors are really concerned about. There are a couple of
yoga apparel companies that are doing really well in the US.
One is Alo Yoga and the other is Viori, and
they've been growing pretty quickly and actually opening stores right
next to Lululemon stores. So there are questions around whether
Lulu is falling behind or lacking innovation relative to these newcomers,

(01:26:28):
But it is worth noting competition is nothing new for Lulu.
They've always competed against names like Nike and Adidas, and
six or seven years ago there was a lot of
concern around Lorna Jane athletea Sweaty Betty and a few others,
which Lulu seemed to navigate just fine.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
So given how far the shares have fallen, at what
point do you think the investors start buying them again.

Speaker 8 (01:26:49):
So it could take a couple more quarters until some
of the more bearish investors feel confident jumping back into
the shares. Management have said they planned to have the
inventory issues involved in the second half and that they
have a healthy lineup of innovation set to come through,
so that will help to answer the question on whether
this is just a short term slip or if there
are longer term issues around competition. Or the brand losing popularity,

(01:27:13):
and look, there are still a lot of positives. The
underlying as leisure industry is still growing. The international growth
for Lululemon is incredibly strong. They've expanded into men'swear, and
they've got market leading margins and profitability. So trying to
figure out exactly when a stop will recover is a
lost tricky. But right now it seems the more skeptical

(01:27:33):
investors are sitting back and waiting a bit to see
how things pan out before they start gazing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Interesting and why Stephanie, thank you very much, Stephanie Bachelor,
Milford Asset Managements, twenty away from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Seven ever duple Zoe.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Yet another carbon auction has failed. There are serious questions
now over whether our carbon market is actually working or not.
Just over four million units were available to buy today
at sixty four dollars each, but they're costing just forty
nine bucks on the secondary market, so no surprise, none
was sold at the auction. Susan Killsby is an agricultural
economist today in Zenen with us. Now, Hey, Susan, Hello,

(01:28:05):
Is this a case of just pricing them too high?
Or is it a case of people now being quite
nervous about the direction of the climate policy.

Speaker 24 (01:28:13):
Well, it really comes down to the fact that there's
a lot of units in circulation at the moment, so
more than the market really needs. So people don't need
to go to these government auctions to buy their units
at sixty four dollars when they can buy them elsewhere
at forty nine dollars. So essentially it's just the market
working as it should when there's an oversupply situation where

(01:28:35):
it's actually reducing the supply by these units not entering
the market.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Is it not the case also, Susan that the ones
that were unsold in this auction transfer over to the
next auction.

Speaker 24 (01:28:46):
Yeah, that's that's correct. So anything's unsold during the calendar
year gets transferred through through to the end of the year.
As we saw what happen last year, which we had
a lot of auctions that didn't sell, the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Is going to happen next time around, it, Well, the
chances are now increase that the same thing happens next time.

Speaker 24 (01:29:02):
Well, they've changed the rules a little bit so there
can be a partial clearance so long as they meet
those minimum prices, which wasn't the case last year. So
it did get harder and harder to clear clear the
market last year. Now there can be a partial clearance,
so as long as there's a bias for some of
those units, they will sell. But you know, there is
a huge amount of units in circulation at the moment,

(01:29:23):
and these really come into the market through alternative ways.
So anything that is any forestry plantings that are registered
into the ETS basically create units. So we've got this
extra supply coming in from forestry. So these the supply
from the government options isn't really needed to stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
So is that is that the problem with why we've
got so many It's that we just have too many
coming in from forestry, not that we're not using enough,
we have too many coming on.

Speaker 24 (01:29:52):
Yeah, well, most ets is around the world, there's a
lot operating in a lot for different countries. Most have
a capped supplies. There is a limited amount sup five
units that can come in. But the way we've set
it up with allowing forestry to be used as offsets
as well, there's real uncertainty around that supply that will
come from forestry. No one really knows who's going to
plant to how many you know the number of trees

(01:30:14):
and how many will be registered into the scheme, so
it creates this huge degree of uncertainty, so it can't
really be used as a cap and trade scheme like
it's been used elsewhere by sort of pushing the price
up to encourage the reduction and emissions as the supply
keeps growing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Now that agriculture has been officially exempt again from the ETS,
are there other sectors who are also hoping for the
same treatment.

Speaker 24 (01:30:38):
I'm really not sure. I think most of the other
sectors there's you know, there's been our ETS, and the
ZOON does cover a pretty broad range of sectors, particularly
compared with other etss around the world. I don't think
we'll see a lot of changes in that. I mean,
excluding excluding agriculture really came down to the fact that
most of the agriculture emissions are MEY SAYE not CO two,

(01:30:59):
so different. Guess they're really just treating it differently.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Susan, good to talk to you, Thank you so much.
Susan kills me. Agricultural economists hate this is kind of
like I'm actually I don't actually hate this. I think
this is kind of a cool idea you can if
you want to. From Hamilton council. Now you can buy
the old parking meter heads because obviously like the old ones,
you know the ones where you put the coin in
and then you turn the dial and then the coin
fell down and then you got your whatever a lot

(01:31:23):
of time or whatever. You can buy those. They've obviously
got rid of them. They got all the fancy ones
when you use your credit card and stuff. They cost
only thirty bucks each, or if you want to have
a multi by discount if you buy five or more.
Because I don't know what you're gonna do with them,
but anyway, if you buy five or more, twenty five
bucks each, so you could give them as gifts to
people byo pole. Unfortunately they don't come with their own pole.

(01:31:45):
But that's kind of a I feel like that would
be I've got a friend ho this would go perfectly
in their house because they have the kind of retro
kind of retro kitch thing going where there's a lot
of like just little like Nixon knacks from old New
Zealand that you would have seen around this. I mean,
that's Christmas. That's actually I'm going to keep that. That's
the Christmas present sorted quarter two every day from.

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Use talks, it'd be Kevin Gray UK corresponds with us
now even in Gavin Hi there, Heather, brilliant news for
you guys. Your inflation's back down to the two percent mark.

Speaker 25 (01:32:25):
Yes, it's been some time getting there. Two percent is
the target that the Bank of England has been set.
They're the ones that control the interest rates, and that
decision as well is now going to be an interesting
one after these figures came out, So it marks a
fall from two point three percent, and it's the month
ago the Prime Minister had called a general election on

(01:32:45):
the day April's inflation figures showed a continued decline. This
will really add to the debate about the economy and
whose hands it is safest in as we rattle towards
our general election in less than two weeks now. So
the set of figures for may Do, however, show a
headline rate of inflation at two percent, and that is

(01:33:07):
below most of the rest of the G seven. The
advanced economies apart from Italy and food prices though are
still twenty five percent higher than at the beginning of
twenty twenty two. Petrol prices are on the way up again.
So underlying figures for services inflation and core inflation are
what lots of people look at, and they are a

(01:33:29):
lot higher three point five percent for core inflation and
five point seven for services. So you know, inflation is
a difficult topic, but it's one that will give this
government a shot in the arm that the opinion polls
suggests they are going to be wiped out at the
general election on the fourth of July.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Totally. Hey, these allegations against the UK's richest family in
Switzerland sound pretty serious.

Speaker 25 (01:33:50):
Yes, so, I mean you might think that the Royal
family is perhaps the richest family in the UK. You
would be wrong. It is the Hinduja family. They are
a family of business people and they have an estimated
wealth of roughly seventy eight billion New Zealand dollars. However,
they're in Switzerland and in court accused of exploitation and

(01:34:12):
human trafficking. Basically this relates to the fact or they
have imported servants from India to look after their children
and household and it's alleged that Prakash and Camal Hinduja,
together with their son Aj and his wife, have confiscated
their passports and paid them as little as roughly sixteen
New Zealand dollars for an eighteen hour day and allowed

(01:34:35):
them little freedom to leave the house. Now they've reached
a financial settlement over the exploitation bit, but it's the
trafficking charges, which are very serious in Switzerland, which are
what is now up for grabs and being debated in court.
They deny any wrongdoing, but the court has heard that
they are hardly the servants are hardly allowed to leave

(01:34:57):
the house and only with the permission of the Induja,
and that some would say is effectively human trafficking. And
so this case likely to go on for a few
more days.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
And speaking of rich people, how is this Ares's fortune
being divided up?

Speaker 25 (01:35:12):
Well, this is an amazing story. So a lady called
Marlene Engelhorn, who's thirty two years old, made headlines in
January because she's being inheriting some forty five million New
Zealand dollars worth. And she's turned around and said, actually,
do you know what I don't want it? It's money
from my grandmother. I haven't worked for it. I don't

(01:35:35):
think that we should have such inheritance laws in the
UK where you can inherit so much money. And so
she set up a Momentum Institute which effectively looked at
a group of fifty people to work out how to
distribute the millions that she's inherited. And now we know
where it's going to go. And it's a fascinating list

(01:35:58):
of different organizations seven in total, as you would can
imagine charities but also think tanks dealing with a range
of environmental protection, education, integration, health and social issues, as
well as poverty and homelessness. In Austria. The smallest donation
is roughly for eighty thousand New Zealand dollars for an

(01:36:19):
initiative to support data based reporting on climate change. But
as I said, the total amount being given way is
over roughly the forty five million New Zealand dollar mark.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
Quite amazing, Yeah, a lot of money. Gavin, Thank you
as always, talk to you in a couple of days again.
Devin Gray our UK correspondence coming up eight away from seven.

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Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Talk CIB six away from seven. Laura, have you heard
yet about have you as Simon sug used to the
interview or Marshall Marshall nothing? Still nothing? Okay, Well, we're
working on both. This is becoming very complicated for us
because normally we just go, yeah, you want to do
an interview. You hear this here, I don't get a choice.
They're like, you're doing the interview. I'm like, okay, But
now we have to get that side, and then we
have to get the other side because now we have

(01:37:09):
to make sure the Simon's interested in. It's all just
a fairy bout.

Speaker 12 (01:37:12):
I mean in some parts of the country here the
afternoons with Sion James gets four hours. I mean, we
only get three. It wouldn't kill them to give us
five little minutes of their four hour shows.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
I mean, this is the pitch that this is the
pitch that we're working on right now for when we're
going to talk to Jason about this tomorrow. The boss
and there's going to force Andrew their boss who's going
to force Simon. So it's like a chain of people
who we have to But we're working on the pitch
to the people. Yep, answer, starting the pitch. Get a
load of this. This is this is a case of
a dispute between politicians in Vermont that's got completely out

(01:37:40):
of hand. One of them started pouring water into the
other one's work bag multiple times over a period of months.
What happened is that the Democrat Jim Carroll, by the way,
sixty two this is the age of these people, sixty two,
he noticed there was water in his bag all of
the time, and he suspected it was the Republican representative

(01:38:00):
Mary Morrissey sixty seven, because she had been nasty to
him for it quite a few months. And he thought
that was bit off because I've known each other since
they were kids, and they even go to the same church.
So he was like, I think Mary's the one pouring
the water into my bag. But he had no evidence,
so he went quite quite a length to prove this.
He started recording his backpack secretly. Twice he caught her

(01:38:21):
dumping a cup of liquid into his tote bag. After
he was able to prove it, it got media attention,
so Mary then apologized to him during a meeting presumably
one of their legislative meetings, and then she said, but
she was sorry, but she didn't know it was his bag,
and she said she flipped water onto it because she
saw there was a bug in the bag.

Speaker 12 (01:38:43):
Mary.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Nobody believed that. No, nobody believed that, So then she
changed her story, and then her news story is appears
to be the current story. She doesn't know why she
did it, so now she's admitting she did it, but
now she doesn't know why she did it. I mean, honestly,
it's incredible. It's incredible that, like, is there something that
happens to us? Do we turn a little corner at
a certain age and we start behaving like reversing back

(01:39:06):
to behaving like children again. It's incredible how many sixty
year olds plus behave like this?

Speaker 12 (01:39:11):
Ants post Malone and Morgan worn I had some help
to play us out. Tonight, post Malone has announced that
he is going to release an album. He did this
with a Billboard in Nashville. Very appropriate because presumably there'll
be lots of country music like this on it. The
album's going to be called if one Trillion, and it's
going to come out on the sixteenth of August. It's
not clear whether this song or what songs will be

(01:39:32):
on it, Because he hasn't announced a track lists or anything.
We just know the name and the release date.

Speaker 3 (01:39:35):
Are you into this?

Speaker 12 (01:39:37):
I think this is a banger, this one Okay, Morgan Wallan,
Post Malone, neither of them are my favorite artists in
the world, but when they want to make a good
pop song, they can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:44):
Okay, let's have a listen and thank you, see you
tomorrow and us stil zibay, blame baby, blame.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
That at.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
I like God to make this counting mess up by myself,
don't I got kill my hell? We pull itself every week.

Speaker 9 (01:40:11):
If you could tell.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
They said same one makes some train some.

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
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