Full Show Podcast: 20 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsweakers to get the real story. It's Ryan
Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand
let's get connected news folk zib the.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Third afternoon, everybody, it is seven after four. Bowl cancer
screening for some at risk patients is being stopped because
of a lack of resources. We'll tell you where and why.
Sir Roger Douglas is on the program, the godfather of
the Act Party taking a swipe at his own. That's
after six. Barbara Edmonds has done another big booboo today.
We'll tell you about that and my top five things

(00:35):
to not do at the beach this summer.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I am bread Bridge shit to that.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Shortly. I had a call this morning from somebody with
some intel about Auckland Council and their vote to oppose
the Treaty Treaty Principal's Bill. You know that a lot
of councils have been doing this. Apparently went down like this.
The Policy and Planning Committee was doing the vote on
whether to submit on the government's bill. There was a

(01:00):
draft of emotion which said blah blah blah will submit
on the bill, and apparently that was changed the night
before to say oppose the bill, and this rightly annoyed
some counselors who thought, yeah, we could submit on the
bill and explain what it might mean for the council
and what it might mean for our operations, but we
don't oppose it outright. So it went to a vote,

(01:24):
and I'm told in the first round of voting, ten
councilors were against submitting on the bill and opposing the bill. Right,
that's ten elected councilors and eight supported this, so eight
said yes. So you would think it wouldn't go ahead,
But I was told there were two independent Maori Statutory

(01:45):
Board members on this committee. They are not elected by
the public, and they sided with the eight councilors who
were in favor. So then you have a tie. It's
ten all. And then the chair, who's Richard Hills, he
uses his casting vote to get the whole thing through. Now,
according to stuff who I'm assuming had a reporter there,
the thing was changed slightly and eventually past eleven eight

(02:09):
with one extension. So now, according to my source, you've
got ratepayer money, time and effort, possibly some flights for
Hills and whoever else wants to fly down to Willington
and submit on the bill in person, which is kind
of absurd if you think about it, for two reasons. One,
the bill isn't going to become law anyway, So why

(02:31):
are we wasting rate payers money submitting on something that's
never going to happen. Just go and fix a pothole
for goodness sakes. Number two, why should unelected people get
to vote on how our rates get spent? This is
the point that was raised. Look no further than the
unaccountable cluster that is all contransport. That's what happens when

(02:54):
you've got people running the show who aren't accountable to us,
the voters. We the people need insurance, and our insurance
is an election, the chance to boot people out if
we don't like what they're doing, and in this case,
both are absent. Ryan Breck four Liam Lawson has been
promoted into Red Bull's senior team in Formula One. He'll

(03:17):
race alongside Max for stap in next season. After Red
Bull parted ways with Sergio Perez, the shareholders agreed to
promote Lawson in his place, ahead of teammate Euko Sonoda.
Before he was picked up by Red Bull, Liam raced
in the Toyota Racing series in New Zealand and Barry
Tomlinson founded the Toyota Racing series. He's now with NZ

(03:37):
one Race Management and he's with us this afternoon. Get
a Barry.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Hi, Ryan, Merry Christmas to you.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Merry Christmas. Great to have you on the show. And
what great news going into the silly season.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, fantastic news. Obviously it's been a long time coming Ryan,
You're probably the worst kept secret really, but yeah, look
to eventually come through. It's great news for New Zealand
and for motorsport here and all his fans and his
supporters here in New Zealand that have put a huge
effort in behind Liam, including his family, have sacrificed so

(04:10):
much to get him to this stage and you know,
it's it's a huge cutos to them all all.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Why why do you think red Bull pecked him over Sonoda?
Because Snoda does have more experience, right.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yes, So Yuki's been in Formal one now for four seasons,
so I think you know, in the end, really that
counts against Yuki because Liam came in. You know, he's
done I think what seven Grand Prixs, maybe a little
more than that, and this year he's done a great
job in this very short time that he's been there.
He's matched Yuki, you know on his results. Yeah, Yuki's

(04:48):
been you know, slightly ahead and qualifying. But you know,
for Liam to come in and to do what he's done,
you know, I think that that's what has got Liam
across the line. And plus all the work that he's
done in the background with red Ball sitting in the
simulator and all the testing that he's done. You know,
they've evaluated both drivers and believe me, they will have

(05:08):
picked Liam purely on his future talent.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, it's the potential buzz, isn't it Because he's basically
as good as the guy who's been performing much longer
than him. And if he's that good, now, you know
how good might he be in one two years time? Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Ryan, And I think you know this is the thing.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
I mean, Liam's twenty two and sure next year, you know,
in twenty five, it will be a tough season for him.
A lot of the circuits he's never been to, so
that's going to be you know, it's going to be
a big learning curve for him. But you know they're
looking at a future champion and somebody to support Max
in the shorter term and to score points.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
And you know, and then.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
For the future, you know, eventually Max will leave, He'll
go some to another team. I'm sure and Red Bull
really need to have a driver to step up and
to take the position.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Of number one in that team.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
And I'm sure if LIAMB can perform at the high
level that we think he can, then he will be
the man in the box seat for that role.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Do you think he can go all the way?

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Look, I think LIAMB is world championship material. Red Bull
I believe will think exactly the same thing. And you
know the test will be you know, twenty five, but
really I think, you know, into twenty six and twenty
seven is where you know Liam will really come alive.
And you know, I do believe that he is the goods.
He's you know, very good mentality.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
He's a fun guy.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
He's a highly talented guy, not only in the car,
but you know, he's quite clever with all sorts of
things outside the car. Good I think with the media
and all of these things count in his favor.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I know it's not polite to ask, but what would
you get paid for a gig like this? R?

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Look, I do have some experience, having been deeply involved
with Brendan Hartley, who obviously raced for Red Bull Racer
Will for Tour USO for Red Bull in Formula one
back in seventeen and eighteen. I do have a little
bit of knowledge on that, but I'm sorry I can't
pass it on. But look, he will be on a

(07:14):
lower salary in twenty five, but you know, they get
rewarded on the points that they score, and so you know,
the more points he can score next year, the more
money he will earn. And then from there obviously, well
sky's the limit. If his talent, you know, matches, then
you know he'll be He'll be on very very big money.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Would it like in your first year, would you be
on millions? Is that out of the realms of possibility?

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Look, look, I believe that he could well be earning
well over a million dollars, you know, if things go
well for him. Yeah, but again it's it's really points points, points,
and look, being in a Red Bull, you know, history
shows that they always run at the front somewhere, and
so therefore points haul you know, that will really you know,

(07:59):
you know, top.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
His bank account up.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
And to be honest, it would be great to see that.
You know, I think his parents have sacrificed a huge
amount to get Liam to where he is, and you know,
I'm sure he'll want to reward his parents, just like
actually Scott Dixon and Brendan Hartley and all the other
ki We boys that have gone on and they made
great careers around the world and motorsport. You know, they always,
you know, look to look after the family and the

(08:22):
supporters that have supported them to get there.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know, it's and that You're right. They have made
huge sacrifice, you know, remortgaging all sorts of stuff, so
they absolutely deserve the whole family. Barry, thank you very
much for being with me this afternoon. Barry Thomlinson, who
founded the Toyota Racing Series where Liam wants races now
with n Z one Race Management, it is caught a
past four Jason Pine Next, plus I'll tell you about

(08:46):
the Canterbury Fireband. Why the hell is any starting now?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Who will take the White House results and analysis of
the US election on Heather Duplessy Alan Drive with One
New Zealand Let's get connected news sport with TB get
your bed on our eight bed responsibly.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Eighteen after four on News Talk ZB. We'll get to
some of your texts in just a second. Jason Pine,
Weeking and Sport hosters with us. Hey Jason, Ryan, did
I mate? We've just spoken. We just had a great
chat atually about Liam Lawson with Barry Tomlinson and just
I suppose a great day. Everyone was kind of suspecting
it would happen. But now that it's happened, what's the
reaction being?

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Like?

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Yeah, I think fantastic. I think overwhelmingly positive. You know,
a Kiwi with a full time drive in Formula one.
Like you say, Ryan, I think we all hope that
it would happen. It felt more and more as though
it would happen, and now it's been confirmed. I think
the news came through ten o'clock last night New Zealand
time and social media lit up and it's been the

(09:49):
talk of the town today, that's for sure and will
continue to be for Liam. I mean, what a thrill
for a kid who, by his own admission, has been
dreaming about this day since he was six seven years old,
and finally it's going to come to fruition. I guess
the hard work is ahead. Now he goes into a
team alongside Max for Stappan, who is the biggest name

(10:10):
in the sports. So for him, Liam, I mean, I
guess the big ingredient he can add is helping them
win the Manufacturer's Championship again for red Ball to get
back on the top of that particular podium. I get
the feeling a lot of resource will be handed the
way of Max for Stappan. But for Liam Lawson, what
an exciting time, What a really really exciting time for

(10:32):
a talented young keiw.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah and great to be watching such a talented person
in Max for Staffan as well. Auckland f C back
at home tomorrow. Do you think they can keep this up?

Speaker 7 (10:41):
I think they will. Yeah, I think they will. You
see their trucking in a whole bunch of sand. They're
making a beach at one end of Mount Smart. This
is another innovation by Oakland DEFC. Get the feeling in
the weather. Might not quite play ball as far as
a beach party is concerned, But yeah, on the field
on the grass, Look, they're back home. They haven't lost there,
They've won all of their games there. They've got a
couple of injury although they might get a couple of
players back from what I'm understanding over the last couple

(11:04):
of days, I don't see any reason why Western United,
who are sort of a middling team really in the
A League, should cause them any problems. I reckon they'll
continue along their winning way and give their fans a
very merry Christmas.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right, yeah, well, let's hope it's not a sandstorm. Jason,
can I be a waiting to happen? That's we can support?
Host Jason Pine twenty after four Bryan Bridge, So Canterbury
is to begin a total fireband. We've had this news
come through this afternoon. Are we a little bit late
to the party here? Team? Like we've had what seven
fires that out of control fires in the past month

(11:38):
in Canterbury and this fireband that they haven't out today?
Total fireband doesn't come in until midday Monday. We can
probably chew through a few other hec tears before then. Like,
I don't know, am I missing something? Is there a
reason why you don't have a total fireband come in earlier,
especially when it's so hot and when it's so dry.

(11:58):
I know, you know farmers like to do burnoffs and
things like that, but can you not do them earlier?
That This is a serious question because it seems to
me you would avoid a whole lot of mess and
a whole lot of firefighter effort and energy by just
bringing the total fiveban in a little bit earlier, a
couple of weeks earlier, nine nine two. The number to
text twenty one minutes after four, by the way, that

(12:19):
is starting midday Monday, also for wideed Upper and for
Hawks Bay and Otago.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
The day's newsmakers talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on
Heather duper Cy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's
get connected and news talk as it'd be.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Sir Roger Douglas, the godfather of the act Party, has
taken a swing at his young apprentice in David Seymour,
and interestingly we are some both to come on the
show together to do a debate or have it, you know,
convivial chat, and David Seymour has said no, but Sir
Roger Douglas said yes, So we're sticking with Sir Roger

(12:57):
and there'll be no David Seymour. That's after sixth this
evening in Sydney, the New Year's Eve fireworks could be
canceled because the train drivers are all going on strike. Now,
I think we take for granted the fireworks at Sydney.
In Sydney at New Year's Eve, because it's so close
and you know, you see it on TV all the time,
and perhaps you've even been there and seen it yourself.

(13:19):
But it's a huge deal around the rest of the world.
My friend Donna, who's from Scotland, comes from this horrible, dark, dingy, windy,
cold northern corner of Scotland where everybody's pale and hideous. Anyway,
she said, we were sitting around having a drink one
night and I said to her, why did you move?
How did you end up in New Zealand? And she said, oh, well,

(13:40):
we first came to Sydney because of the fireworks at
New Year's Seriously, apparently it's a thing, so a massive deal,
and at the last minute they might all be canceled.
So all of these pasty you know from on flights
from Edinburgh, all these pasty Brits coming down the scott
coming down to Sydney might be out of luck.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Apparently what's happened is the strikes and the negotiations that
are going around the reaching impass. Guess how much they
want so combined unions representing thirteen thousand rail workers have
refused to budge from their demands for a thirty two
percent pay rise over four years. The new South Wales
governments starting offer to the rail unions nine and a

(14:25):
half percent over three years. So they've got fair work
hearings going on there continuing next week and they're hoping
to find a resolution to all of that before New
Years because otherwise it could all be over for the
fireworks on the on the Sydney Harbor Bridge. Barbara Edmonds
has had a big booboo. Have I got time to
tell you about that? Barbara Edmonds has put out a

(14:46):
Facebook post this afternoon. This is the Labor Party finance
spokesperson put out a Facebook post basically spreading false information.
She said under Jacinda Adirn and Chris Hipkins and their government,
government debt reduced, which I mean hello red flag what
She went on Facebook with a graph that was wrong.

(15:09):
And this is all after the hayfo on Tuesday. She says,
you can't blame Labor for all this. Look, we reduced
government debt, No you didn't. The facts debt increased by
depending on which measure you use, seventy two billion or
thirty six billion. When the Coglin got on the case
from the Herald Thomas and showed her what she'd done wrong.
Didn't even say sorry, just put a new graph up

(15:32):
on Facebook. Don't there you go? The Shame Award for Friday.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
The name you trust to get the answers you need,
Ryan bridge On, Heather dou Percy Ellen Dry with one
New Zealand let's get connected, and New Talk said be.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Five from five newsk said, be Merry Christmas everyone. I
hope you're enjoying your Friday afternoon. We are talking to
Professor Frank Fazel after five o'clock because there's a quite
concerning story. If you are somebody who has bowel cancer
in your family, like a family history of it, you
know you'll be extra alert. You know you'll be extra
aware of it, and you know that you want to

(16:18):
get screening right. Well, there's a hospital in New Zealand that,
because of resourcing issues, won't be doing those screenings. Can
you imagine that? Can you imagine if you had lost
a loved one, your father or a grandparent, or a
brother or sister had passed away and there wasn't the
resource to do your regular screening. How that would feel anyway,

(16:40):
We'll talk to Professor Frank Fizzel about what is going
on and get to the bottom of that. Also in
the US, apparently there's a last minute deal being done
to avoid a ushut, a government shutdown. This happens every
time they say, oh my god, they're going a shutdown,
and then it never really happens. It is twenty four
minutes away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
It's the world wires on news dogs. They'd be dry.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
The Australian oppositionally to Peter Dutton, has challenged Prime Minister
Elbow to a nuclear power debate. Dutton, who is campaigning
on building nuclear power stations, isn't happy about an ad
campaign campaign that's talking about the health risks of nuclear power,
is Dutton?

Speaker 8 (17:16):
If there is a security or a safety concern, the
Prime Minister should front the Australian people today. I'm happy
to challenge the Prime Minister to a debate on nuclear
power whenever he wants, but he won't take up that.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Also this afternoon, some squirrels in California have become merciless killers.
In the middle of the year, the voles running, the
voles living in a regional park had a baby boom.
So the local squirrels have taken it upon themselves to
bring the population under control by killing and eating as
many bowles as they can. While we already knew that

(17:52):
California ground squirrels are omnivorous, help me omnivorous, omnivorous, they
eat anything, right, yes, cass, this is the first time
they've been documented hunting adult mammals.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Could humans be next? That's a scary thought, isn't it.
Twenty two minutes away from five. Mitch McCann is our
US correspondent and he joins us now, Mitch, nice to
have you on the show. Hi, right, how are you good?
Thank you, thanks for being with us. So the iconic
images of Luigi Mangioni. He's now been extradited to New York.

(18:33):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (18:34):
This is the twenty six year old who was accused
of fatally shooting the United Healthcare chief executive outside of
Manhattan hotel a couple of weeks ago. And there's been
a few big developments in this case today. So earlier
this week he faced eleven charges at the state level,
but now the FBI and the US government have leveled
federal charges against him. So today they charged him with

(18:56):
murder through the use of a firearm, two stalking charges,
and a firearms offense as well. And as you say,
he was extradited back from Pennsylvania to New York today
and it was quite a show. They put him on
a helicopter and when he arrived in New York there
were around twenty or thirty police officers that sort.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Of paraded him in front of the cameras.

Speaker 9 (19:14):
New York's mayor turned up as well to really have
a show of force there.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
And then he was in court this afternoon.

Speaker 9 (19:20):
And it's interesting to note he's going to be staying
at the infamous Rikers Island prison in.

Speaker 10 (19:26):
New York, which that is not one place you want.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
To be, absolutely not. What's the US Attorney General saying
about the chargers.

Speaker 9 (19:35):
Well, look, they're saying that this is a premeditated attack
what Luigi Mangioni did, and they're really upset at what
they're calling kind of this fanfare or this promotion of
him at the moment. And there's been an interesting poll
that's come out from Pew Research. I believe it was
or Emerson College, and forty one percent of young voters

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say the killing of the United Healthcare CHI chief executive
was quote acceptable. That's a very unusual level of support
for Luigi Mangioni. There is means about him over the internet,
this kind of sort of fan fiction writing. It is
very strange, but there is definitely some support for him
out there as well.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, it's truly shocking that number. Fulton County, the Fanny Willis.
This is the district attorney there, the local district attorney
in Georgia who was running that case against Trump and
the alleged election rigging. What's happened with her? Yeah, big
development today.

Speaker 9 (20:29):
Now, this is the only one of Donald Trump's major
court cases that hasn't been thrown out or it hasn't finished.
It's the case where Trump and several co defendants were
charged over scheming to overturn.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
The election loss in Georgia in twenty twenty.

Speaker 9 (20:43):
Now it emerged at Funny Willis, the district attorney was
having a romantic relationship with one of the prosecutors that
she brought onto the case, and Donald Trump initially asked
her to be removed because of a conflict of interest
and failed at doing so. However, a court of appeals
in Georgia today was inappropriate for her to be on
this case, and she's going to be removed. So that's

(21:04):
a win of sorts for Donald Trump. But he's not
in the clear yet in Georgia, although this won't happen
for a long time in the future.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
What's happening with all these drones there? Well, pretty much everywhere,
but mainly around New Jersey.

Speaker 9 (21:17):
Yeah, thousands of drones.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Lots of discussion about it in recent weeks.

Speaker 9 (21:21):
Some people have been asking whether it's foreign governments are
surveilling Americans or even aliens. Ryan the US government, though
is It has investigated and the drones were a combination
of commercial drones, people using them as a hobby, and
law enforcement drones. And adding to the mystery today, the
Federal Aviation Administration has issued a month's long ban on

(21:42):
drone flights over much of New Jersey for what.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
It calls special security reasons.

Speaker 9 (21:48):
And several of these restricted zones where people can't fly
the drones are around infrastructure like power stations and things
like that. But he's not a clear reason why other
than spacial security reasons, which is having people asking a
lot of questions again because all.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
The conspiracy theorists were saying, well, it's probably a foreign
government that's going to take out some infrastructure, so that's
probably just adding fuel to that fire, isn't it. Goodness man,
and I think it.

Speaker 9 (22:11):
Didn't help the Donald Trump said they need to be
honest about what's going on in kind of adding fuel
to the fire there as well as he likes to do.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
All right, Mitch, thank you so much for that. That's
Mitch McCann, who is a US correspondent, just gone eighteen
minutes away from.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Five Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
You'll remember that shooting in Coromandel last week. Well, the
murder accused, Stuart Edmondson. People around town apparently called him
the pig Man because he had about one hundred pigs
on his property little piglets as well, and he was
raising them, hand wearing them and people would come and
take photos, etc. So now that he's been arrested, he's pleagued,

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not guilty by the way, to these charges, one of
murder and one of attempted murder. But a rural area
in Coromandel, lives on his own now everyone's going what's
happening with these pigs. There's a goose to one hundred
of them. Apparently forty or fifty of the pigs have
been taken and have been transported to Wellington and are
going to be re homed there. But they're still wondering

(23:11):
what to do with the rest of the pegs. Apparently
there's been no solution found. They're going to the Haywards
Hills to a pig charit well, to an animal charity
sanctuary there. There's been a give a little page set up.
Guess how much they raised thirty five thousand dollars in
the space of a week for some pigs. I know,
seventeen away from five newstalks. They'd be Barri soopernext.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
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Speaker 2 (23:35):
News talks said be quarters to five. Barry Soaper here, Hey, Barry,
good afternoon. Right, So Barbara Edmonds has this is Labour's
finance spokesperson. We've had the high food numbers out and
people have been rightly so putting laying a bit of
blame at the feet of the former Labor government and
out comes. Barbara with a Facebook post what she said.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Well, she posted a graph. Goodness only knows where she
got it from, but she's taken it down incidentally since
it was pointed out to her. But she said that
the durn Hipkins government reduced New Zealand's debt levels by
about thirty one billion dollars in its second term. That's
when Labor, of course was governing on its own. Well,

(24:19):
the graph appeared to show that Labor repaid debt faster
than any government. That's the graph that she posted since
nineteen seventy two. Can you imagine it. So basically, the
second term of the Labor government saw essential increasing of

(24:39):
debt significantly by about seventy two billion dollars. Now, the
Finance Minister, Nikola Willis, she described the incident as either
a case of extraordinary physcal ignorance or wilful deception. Either way,
she said she didn't think it looked good for Barbara Edmunds,
and she's absolutely right on that. But then Edmunds comes

(24:59):
back after making the correction and not even admitting she
was wrong. But she said that Willis was so desperate
to distract her from mismanagement of the economy that she's
going after the social media post that has since been corrected.
She said, kiwis expect more of the Minister of Finance. Well,
I'm sorry, they also expect more of the opposition spokesperson

(25:24):
on finance. So I mean it was a red faced day,
I've got to say for Barbara dam Edmonds.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, if you make a disown, it does own it.
And I have to Hey, despite all this doom and
gloom the economic climate, the government's pushing ahead with replacing
the Air Force's passenger jets Berry.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
I'll tell you what, It's not going to be a
cheap time for them. Visit that they're looking at replacing
them by the end of twenty twenty seven, which is
around the same time as they're replacing the two cock
straight fairies. So this is not going to come cheap
because they're looking at two planes at the moment, are
Boeing seven three seven Max eight or an Airbus three

(26:05):
to one that Chris Luxon would know very well because
it's the most common plane at air in New Zealand.
But essentially we've been embarrassed internationally by our Air Force jets,
haven't we. I mean I've been on them, You've been
on them, and they I remember running a book once
to see when would be the first port of call

(26:26):
that we would break down, and well, we're on the
way to Darwin, but we had to sidetrack at one
point to Brisbane and sent twenty four to forty eight
hours there while the plane was fixed. And if you're
leading a trade delegation overseas, you've really got to be
able to fly the flag. But you've got to ensure

(26:47):
that these planes work. So they're going to be costly,
no doubt about it. The defense the Defense Ministry says
that it's going to tender now in order to secure
the placement by the end of twenty twenty seven. They
won't come cheap, but you know, you've got to say,
and I think everyone would agree, the current seven five

(27:09):
sevens are old, unreliable, and they're far too expensive to maintain,
and they're an embarrassment. Chris Luxen has found them embarrassing.
Remember that trip he did recently to Japan, and that
saw a costly rescue effort for the media and the
business delegation, who was trended in Papa New guineas Chris
Luckson flew on before them.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, no, if you don't even make it to Darwin.
You know you're having a bad day.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
We had a lot of fun on those planes, Barry,
but we don't talk.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
They were party planes in the old days, not so
much so these days, I don't think, right.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
No, the Maori Party talking about well, this story is
quite interesting, so that there's three different versions of it actually,
depending on which party you are. But apparently the Labor
of the Greens and to Party Mali are working closely
to help each other towards government.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Yeah, and as you say, they're all telling well, at
least one of them is telling a bit of a
different story. Labor says discussions between the three are quite
casual and informal, but the Greens say they're meeting regularly
and planning on formalizing that arrangement. The idea came from
Debia river Packer. She says they needed to get past

(28:24):
themselves and collaborate, they said. She said, they've worked well
with the Greens in the past, and they now figure
out how to team up with Labor. Well, I'll tell
you what. Some of the antics that the Maldi Party
have gone up to would be nothing short of embarrassing
for the Labor party. But the Maldi Party are determined
this will be a one term government and they say

(28:47):
they have to do business. Well, I would say that
would be a worry. If you think you've got the
coalition of chaos at the moment, you're going to have
the coalition of calamity if these three get together.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, Barry, thank you very much for that. Barry So,
our senior political correspondent. We will chat to you again
later on to review the week in full with politics.
It's just gone nine minutes away from five on News
Talks b coming up after five and really I'll tell
you about a really unusual story in Auckland. If you're
into festivals and gigs and maybe you're going to one
this summer, to do with under eighteen year olds because

(29:21):
if you think about festival, there's a lot of drinking
going on. You can ready access to alcohol. Should under
eighteen year olds even be allowed at festivals? We'll talk
about that after five six away from five year on
News Talk SIB. I'm Ryan Bridge, and it's great to
have your company if you are out and about enjoying
your probably last day at work for most of you,
I guess do enjoy yourself have an extra drink. Ruth

(29:44):
says Hi, Ryan, hope you're back this time next year,
enjoying having you in this time slot. Yes, I can
tell you that I will be filling in for Heather
while she's off having a baby on maternity leave. So
I'll be here next year from January time for about
three months or so. So I look forward to being
with you then. Right now, I've told you about this

(30:07):
story before, but I need to update you. This is
in Wellington, you know, the hideous, headeous monstrosity with the
big wooden triangle things on at the bridge that goes
between the Waterfront and Civic Square. It's got the big
wooden triangles and everyone's underneath smoking dope or having a city. Well,
they're going to get rid of it. Well, well they

(30:27):
were going to get rid of it. In fact, it
was the only sensible decision Wellington City Council made this
entire year, was to demolish this bridge because the cost
of earthquake strengthening was going to be eighty five million dollars.
It's not a car. You can't get a car on
this bridge, by the way. This is a pedestrian bridge, okay. Anyway,
So smart decision. Eighty five million dollars too much, let's

(30:49):
demolish it. Cool anyway, And then there's a bunch of
people who worry about bridges and I don't know the
look of the city, go and take legal action for
a judicial review. Now before there's even been a decision,
Wellington City Council has now reversed its decision to demolish
the bridge and has now got it on hold. So
you've got a city let alone. They can't let alone

(31:11):
building something new. They can't even demolish something old. That's
how useless they are. The funniest part about the whole
story is what they wanted to replace this pedestrian bridge with.
They were two options. One of the options, and this
is not a joke, one of the options to replace
this pedestrian bridge was to build a new pedestrian bridge
and have a traffic light and a pedestrian crossing underneath.

(31:35):
Why would you why do you need both? Why would
you need both? Because it's Wellington, that's why. And Wellington
just doesn't make sense. So the next time you want
to hear about that, read about the city the city
to see bridge, just don't read it. In fact, just
put the city in the sea at this point and
be done with Wellington. Move the capital to Hamilton, somewhere else.

(31:57):
I don't care. I'm finished with you. Are coming up
after the News at five o'clock. We're going talked about
the festival in Auckland where under eighteen's have just been
barred even though they've bought a ticket. Also, we're going
to talk to David tammaheaded He's been convicted of the
murders of Heidi Parking and two Swedish backpackers and there's

(32:18):
just been an updated court decision around his appeal, so
we'll bring you up to date and speak to him.
After five.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.
Ryan Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New
Zealand Let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Good evening seven after five News Talks ZVB. We're speaking
to convicted murderer David Tamaheady in just a few moments.
Right now, Palmerston North Hospital is cutting back on some
of its bowel cancer screening procedures, and Health New Zealand
is unable to say if this is happening in other
regions around New Zealand. At the moment, in Palmerston North
there are eight hundred and fifty two patients who are

(33:38):
on the waiting list for a surveillance colonoscopy. These are
patients with a high risk of developing bowel cancer because
of their medical history or a family history. Well, the
hospital says pretty much all of those patients probably won't
be getting a colonoscopy until May at the earliest. The
hospital says it doesn't have the capacity to screen them

(33:58):
and it has to focus on people who are either
symptomatic or are already on the National bow cancer screening list.
The Professor Frank Frazell is medical advisor at Bell Cancer
in New Zealand. He's with me now, good evening.

Speaker 11 (34:11):
Good even.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Is this How concerned are you to hear this?

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Well?

Speaker 11 (34:17):
I think, well, I am. I'm very concerned. These are
patients at increase risk of having bow cancer. There they
had a previous pop or they've got a bmily history
that's very strong for bow cancer. So they've been identified
as not being your average risk, but they have been
substantially increase in risk. And now the delays of six

(34:40):
months before they can pick up and carry on. So
that's six months of those screening, which means they won't
clear them are at the start. So many of these
people will wait a lot longer in order to get
service delivered to them that they have been expecting.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Is six months as a minimum, a significant period of
time when it comes to the development of bowel cancer.

Speaker 11 (35:05):
Would you like to wait six months to find out
that you had bow cancer?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Certainly not no, And I think that's it's.

Speaker 11 (35:11):
Also the most importantly the ability to remove pre malignant lesions,
pre cancerous lesions, which stops from going on to cancer.
And so just that delay of six nine months, maybe
a year for some of these people would increase the
number of these people with which could have avoid the
cancer by having prem lesions removed.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Will this result in people having cancer that otherwise would
have been detected? Do you think?

Speaker 11 (35:39):
Yes? They would have had pre cancerous legions removed, and
now there will be a delay and they won't get it.
They won't get removed until too late, until they've got cancer.
See the whole that's the whole purpose of screening and
of the process, and it's a lot of work has
gone determining that these people are at risk and they've

(36:02):
proven both by family history and by having previous part
for previous cancers that they're at risk and so their
vulnerable group. And my understanding is that the short staffed
and Palmston or mid Central Health is the sort of
old region used to be called and the unable to

(36:24):
replace staff that have left, and that's partly due to
the infrastructure around appointment to aura Health New Zealand is
it's also called, and this has been an issue for
at least eighteen months two years, trying to get people
through the appointment process and a lack of.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Appointment and now it's kind of it's come to a
head and here we are with a six month pause. Professor,
thank you for filling us in on that. Professor Frank
Fazeli's balcancer in New Zealand's medical advisor, now Health New
Zealand has issued a statement and they say, I think
quite worryingly, we're unable to confirm if other regions have
also paused surveillance of colonoscopies, as this is a significant

(37:03):
piece of work involving going out to all districts and
we're already operating on a reduced roster due to the holidays. Honestly,
what was the point of House New Zealand coming together
as one organization in the first place? If it's going
to take I mean, ask yourself. Eleven after five Brian Bridgway.
The Supreme Court has decided it will hear David Tamahete's

(37:24):
appeal against his convictions for murdering two Swedish backpackers in
nineteen eighty nine. It comes after the Court of Appeal
decided just five months ago to uphold Tamahettes's convictions. Last year,
evidence by businessman Sir Bob Jones was revealed, who said
the lead investigator in the case had told him he
had made up the evidence against Tamaheerti. David Tamaheti is

(37:44):
with me now? Hello? Oh yeah, David? When did you
hear the Supreme Court's decision? When did you hear about
this or beert?

Speaker 6 (37:55):
What?

Speaker 4 (37:55):
No?

Speaker 12 (37:55):
Nearly three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Are you surprised to hear that the going to hear
an appeal?

Speaker 12 (38:02):
Yeah, we're expecting a refusal, but I'm sorry that yeah,
there was. We're expecting for them to say no.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Why do you think the we well, obviously that's because
the Court of Appeal upheld the convictions and that was
only in July. Right. Why do you think they did that?

Speaker 12 (38:28):
Well, I think they have looked at it properly. There
was all where they've ever done was argued the evidence
that was presented at the trial. And the Crown keeps
changing the story and the Court of Appeal judges that

(38:51):
have been going along with it. But I see that,
like the Supreme Court has said, they're more interested in
the submissions and these says you are and the principles involved.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
They're opened to, Yeah, they're open to hearing more evidence
on an appeal.

Speaker 12 (39:13):
Yeah. And the fact that they also mentioned that was
the importance of the constitutional role of the jury because
what we always argued said, look say what you like
at the hearing, you appealing hearing, but put it in
front of the jury. Let the jury.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Decide it, and that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 12 (39:37):
Yeah. Because of this, they pulled this provisio.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Crap on us, the Court of Appeal. This is back
in July. They upheld your convictions and afterwards the cops
came out and they said you need to reveal, David,
where is Heidie parkin AND's body.

Speaker 12 (39:58):
Yeah did you did?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
What did you say to them?

Speaker 12 (40:03):
Well, I haven't. I've just films can nothing to do
with me, So I don't word about you're talking about
because oh, I haven't actually spoken to them since it'll
be open, Oh when I reached a ten year mark
at my presence ends.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
So you haven't talked to them, right, So you haven't
spoken to them since the Court of Appeal upheld, since
the Court of Appeal uphold your convictions, you haven't said
a word to them.

Speaker 12 (40:30):
No, this was even before then, right, you.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Know you stand by your innocence, David.

Speaker 12 (40:37):
Yeah, yeah, my story hasn't changed. It's the Crowns story
that keeps changing, all.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Right, David, thank you very much for being with me. David,
tummy heady. It's just gone fourteen after five, seventeen after
five news talk said be Sir. Roger Douglas, the godfather
of the Act Party, the founder of the Act Party,
is on the show after six. He's taken a bit
of a swing today at the current lot and he'll
explain himself. That's coming your way out to six this
evening right now, YouTuber, mister beast, And if you've got

(41:08):
kids who go on YouTube, you will probably know who
mister Beast is. They will definitely know who mister Beast is.
He has just released an ambitious reality TV show called
Beast Games.

Speaker 13 (41:19):
I am standing on five million dollars the grand prize
of the.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Most insane competition show you've ever seen.

Speaker 14 (41:26):
Competing for it by these one thousand contestants.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
You heard that right. One thousand contestants will compete in
a squid game style competition to win five million US
dollars more than you get for winning the block here,
what do they give you? Ten grand or something. It's
believed to be the largest amount of prize money on
offer in the history of reality television. Our entertainment reporter
Richard Martin is with me. Good evening, Good evening. Now,

(41:52):
first of all, you hate mister Beast.

Speaker 15 (41:54):
Can't stand the guard.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
What's wrong with him?

Speaker 15 (41:56):
I think that this idea of miss to Beast and
this sort of capitalist dystopia that he's built for himself
on YouTube is just like a sign of the end times.
I can't stand it, Like this sort of Jigsaw from
Saw like games that he puts people in, and it's

(42:18):
very like, you know, old school the rich, almost a billionaire.
Now he's going to be the YouTube's first billionaire. And
how he entertains himself is he locks people on a
supermarket and says, you know, dance, monkey dance, I'll give you,
you know, ten thousand dollars if you do this. And
on top of that, like, I understand why the biggest

(42:42):
YouTuber in the world is a guy who has money
and puts it into his videos and makes more money
from that. But I just think the guy is so uncharismatic,
and I'm.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Like, why is it this guy? Well, the Internet's not
a particularly charismatic place. I had to say it. Well,
it's not like broadcast radio. To Shay, however he has,
he's gone out and then he's made hundreds of millions
of dollars, as he says, on his way to being
a billionaire. All power to him. And the shame is
not on him. The shame is on us for watching it,
is it not?

Speaker 15 (43:12):
Yeah, I've I actually have never watched one of the videos.
The whole way through. I see clips on TikTok and stuff,
and that was sort of how I was introduced to him.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Can you explain for people who haven't seen him? He
does little challenges you know all the time. So he'll
go on a boat when I watched, and they're all
clipped together really quickly. But he'll show you the difference
between being on a kayak and how you know, rent
a kayak for thirty dollars for a day. And he'll
go up each size of boat until you get to
know a billionaire's yacht. Yeah, and he'll take you on

(43:42):
a tour of it. And so it's a bizarre thing
to watch, but you will sit there and fifteen minutes
later you've devoured the whole thing totally.

Speaker 15 (43:48):
And I think that, yeah, there is this idea that
people just are obsessed with the idea of money and
especially like billionaires and stuff. And you know, there's a
bigger divide between between like the working class and the
and the elite more than ever, and so I think
that there is this desire to see how the other
half lives essentially. And also, mister Beast kind of does

(44:10):
the this could happen to you one day, Like a
lot of his stuff is, you know, me walking along
the supermarket aisle and it's like, oh, if you buy
my chocolate bar and if you follow me on tektok
I'll give you ten thousand dollars, right, And so that
I think is where like the sort of lottery stuff
that he does quite a bit, just like lotto, yeah,
which you know is and when you're appealing to young

(44:32):
kids as well that are like, well I don't understand
how odds work.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yes, hey, very quickly, there's some news that's got people
very excited in the entertainment world today about Blue Yes, well,
what's happening with Bluey?

Speaker 15 (44:44):
What's the complete other side of the argument? Blue fantastic
role model for children? Yeah, Blue is getting a movie.
It's gonna be Disney's making it, and twenty twenty seven,
I believe is the current release date. And yeah, full
featurely theatrical movie, not a straight to streaming thing. And
they also announced as well that you're going to be

(45:05):
start seeing some Bluey characters at the Disney parks and
on the Disney cruises that I believe early next year
are going to be leaving Australia and New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So Disney Blue is going big, going big time. Yeah, yeah,
all right, Well that's interesting. To be honest, I've never
seen Blue I have no don't I have no idea
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 15 (45:25):
Well, see the thing about Blue is that, yeah, like
it is this incredible role model, but it's also like
it teaches like parents' lessons as well. It's like, you know,
if you realize you've told off your kid for the
wrong thing. It like there's episodes where it's like, yeah,
you should apologize to your kid for that. It's an
awkward thing to do to like admit you're wrong to
a child and to back down on a punishment or whatever,

(45:45):
but that's an important thing of like fostering the relationship
with a kid.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Oh wow, God Bloe presum Blue is it's quite a
profound flick. Then coming out and been put on by Disney.
Thank you very much for coming in. Great to have
you on the show for our first time too. Richard
Entertainment Report had just gone twenty two minutes after five
when we come back the five things not to do
at the beach this summer on your smart.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Speaker, on the iHeart app and in your car on
your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Heather Dupless, Alan
Dry with One New Zealand Let's get connected and news
Talk zed Bow.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Twenty five and after five you're on News Talk said,
be great to have your company coming out after six ros.
Sir Roger Douglas on the State of the Act Party.
Also Barry Soaper raps the Political Week and we're live
to Hong Kong. Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent. That
all ahead right now. It is my last day of
work for the year, and I must say I very
much enjoyed spending the last couple of weeks with you.

(46:50):
In the afternoon, however, I am going to be off
to the beach and every year because I am essentially
quite an angry, grumpy person deep down. I go to
the beach and I get mad, and I get angry
at people doing dumb stuff. The problem with the beach,
you see, is that it's public and I can't yet
afford my own private one until then. Here's my top

(47:12):
five things not to do at the beach this summer.
Number one, rubbish bins. They get full quickly, so everybody
just piles their shit sky high like a bio hazard
version of Jinger. Don't do that. It's unsightly. If the
bins are full, please dispose of your rubbish in the ocean.
It's far less visible to your fellow beach goers. Just

(47:35):
I'm just kidding. Seriously, though, Just put it in the
boot of your car and take it home for goodness sakes.
Number two music just don't you may like Coldplay, thank you,
and it's just don't you may like Coldplay or Cardi b.
Others prefer the soothing sound of the actual ocean. It's
quite hard to hear that with Chris Martin wailing out
of your stupid dewey boom. The beach and the bush,

(47:57):
for that matter. For those who prefer the bush not
just visual spectacles, they are oral experiences too. Try closing
your eyes in the sun, listening to the sound of
the waves, the birds, the magic, but not your music.
Number three togs. There's always some wowser in the Herald
over summer winging about a woman's bikini being too revealing.
Do you know what I'm talking about? Too much skin

(48:17):
for my liking? It's just not right, honestly, look away.
People can wear whatever they like. In my mind, just
ensure that your nips and your bits are covered. Other
than that dental floss bikinis are aokay with me. And
if you're one of those people who complain, are you
in sense at the woman's body, or is it the
fact that your husband's drawling behind his dirty dog sunglasses

(48:39):
Number four? Swimming in jeans and T shirts? Do you
have a death wish? Eighty six percent of drownings happen
during summer, and you're a lot heavier in denim. This
is a fact. And you see people you set out
at Pihr Beach, people being rescued wearing track pants. Honestly,
take a leaf out of the dental floss book. Number five. Finally,
I love a good sun shoh shade tent, one of

(49:00):
those pop up tents. Some people have a full on
almost camping setup and I'm all for this. This is
fine with me. But you cannot, and I have seen
this happen, set it up and leave it for days
on end at a busy beach overnight. You cannot bags
bits of the beach. It belongs to nobody and everybody,
and that is entitled and shameful behavior. So don't do it.

(49:25):
Wishing you all a warm, quiet, easy breezy beach experience
this summer.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Bryan Bridge, but that was when a rule.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
The world Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Cutting through the noise to get the facts, it's Ryan
Bridge on here the duper see Ellen drive with one
New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Let's get connected and you talk instead be Chris Grins.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Oh, I can't wait the end those fast an you run.
It's twenty four away from six News Talks the b
It's all kicking off online and apparently there's heartbreak among
some sixteen and seventeen year olds. The Laneway Festival in Auckland.
It's based off of a Melbourne concept, Laneways. There's thousands
of people go to it every year. It's held in
I think it's in January, and they've just announced today

(50:28):
that they are having to revoke and issue refunds for
tickets that were given to six sold to sixteen and
seventeen year olds because of licensing issues. Now this is
a weird story because last year they were allowed sixteen
and seventeen year olds there and obviously you can have
a wristband to differentiate the two and have eighteen year
olds going to the bar to buy a drink without

(50:50):
selling alcohol to sixteen and seventeen year olds anyway. In
their statement, Laneways has explained it is apparent that New
Zealand's licensing landscape has a volved in recent months, with
a heightened level of scrutiny and responsibility placed on event
organizers to address alcohol related arms. So basically, if you've
bought a ticket for your sixteen or seventeen year old

(51:10):
to go to Lamewys, you're gonna have to get a
refund and they won't be able to go, So they'll
be a bit disappointed with that, which I find weird
because if you're sixteen, you can go to a bar
and not be served alcohol, but still go to a bar.
So what's the difference. If you're twelve, you can go
and have lunch at a restaurant that serves alcohol with
your galpals or whatever, and there's not going to be

(51:32):
a problem. So what is the difference with a festival
that changes things? I don't know. Twenty three away from six.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand southebyst international realty,
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Speaker 16 (51:52):
First car at twelve, so I was still racing a
go kart and obviously about five years or four years
away from me, I'll actually get my license and driven
the road, but I'm driving it as a race car
and track. That's where I think it starts.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
These sports is a sports just getting more and more popular,
and it is very accessible, as.

Speaker 11 (52:10):
You say, and very inclusive.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, Christmas in New Zealand is hugely appealing to me.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Frankly, I've spent.

Speaker 17 (52:17):
Quite a few Christmas Is off shore, so it's great
to be back.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Busy wee week of sports. So the sports huddleways in.
Clay Wilson's with US Newstalk ZBI sports news director. Hey
Clay Ay right, welcome to the show. And Jim Cases
with US sports journalists. Hey Jim, good to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Oh great to talk to you, mate.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I hope you will very well and hoping that you're
well too. And let's start with Liam Lawson. What an
awesome end to what has been a protracted suspicion of
a story but now a confirmed one.

Speaker 17 (52:47):
Jim, that's pretty fantastic, isn't it. I think a lot
of news Yealaders won't really understand or appreciate perhaps the gravitas.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
Of what's happened.

Speaker 17 (52:55):
But Formula one it's just massive, isn't It's the elite
of motorsport and to have a New Zealander driving and
that is quite incredible really, you know where it sits
in the pecking order of all those sorts of things
which we all always like to do. I don't really know,
but you just have to take your head off to him.

(53:16):
It's a it's an example of perseverance and talent and opportunity,
and good on him, you know.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
I hope, I hope he really succeeds.

Speaker 17 (53:24):
It's it's great and we get sort of that reflected
glory from it.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
Ryan, don't we were?

Speaker 17 (53:29):
It's so cool seeing a Kiwi succeed on such an
international stage. And I think it's fantastic. It's a it's
a it's a wonderful, wonderful story.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
It is, and what's cool about it. Clay is talking
to a couple of the sort of industry guys about
it today that the reason he was packed over the
Japanese driver because the Japanese driver has more experience than him,
but he's got way more potential. He's basically driving as
fast as this other guy who's been on the track
for years, so they're they're buying his potential.

Speaker 18 (54:00):
Yeah, and I think that's what's by a lot of
people that have been kind of promoting Yuki Snowder, and
he had more experience and he beat Liam in a
lot of their matchups in the last six races that
Liam raced in is that Liam has eleven Grand Prix
experience to his name. Yuki has at that point almost
four seasons, and Liam was matching him, if not beating
him on in a lot of metrics. So you know,

(54:21):
in terms of where the ceiling is, that's what Red
Bull are clearly looking at is He's a twenty two
year old kid who's come and he hasn't been afraid
to mix it with some of the big names, some
of the veterans in the sport and a car that's
not a superior, and now they're putting him in and
that's the big thing about this. They're putting him in
a car that's capable of winning Grand Prix, winning a
World Championship, alongside Maxistep and the most you know, the

(54:43):
best driver of this generation. It's a huge, huge moment
for a kid from Pukakoe to make it from our
little country and get across and be in that seat.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Red Bull finishes the year third place, seventy seven behind
points behind McLaren and largely that's because of Sujia there
is right, not so great and the seat it's a brutal.

Speaker 18 (55:04):
But this is Formula One. It's brutal, and it's right place,
right time. And you know, last year Liam got a
shot as an injury replacement, and but he didn't get
a seat for the start of the season that's just finished.
So you've got to be in the right place at
the right time performing and Liam has and now it's
just about going through that door and making the most
of it, and you know, and securing a long term

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future in the sport.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Jim. The sports people have been quite upset. We had
them on the show this week, quite upset, quite exercise
because they're missing out on sport New Zealand high performance
funding this week. What do you reckon?

Speaker 17 (55:40):
Oh, Ryan, Like, I don't know, maybe I'm showing my generation.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
I just I struggle with it.

Speaker 17 (55:46):
You know, is is chess? Is scrabble? Are they sports?

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Is sport a sport?

Speaker 17 (55:56):
What what constitutes a sport? Should it be for aical activity?
You know, if you're sitting on a horse or sitting
in a car?

Speaker 6 (56:05):
Is that it?

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (56:08):
I don't think that esports should be getting funded in the.

Speaker 4 (56:10):
Way that the Bush.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I know it sounds your traditional ones saying it.

Speaker 4 (56:16):
I just I just don't.

Speaker 17 (56:18):
I'm just not sure that the sports deserve to be
considered in the same funding bracket as kayaking, you know, rowing, cycling,
trifle on those sorts of things. I'm not saying they
don't deserve funding. Maybe they do, but I wouldn't put
them in the same bracket as some of those other

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sports when it comes to funding.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
So I don't think.

Speaker 17 (56:42):
I don't think that they are unlucky to have missed
out in this In this instance, maybe there's another category
that New Zealand government wants to fund them for. But
I don't think that sitting in front of a computer
is a sport.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, it's interesting one is that because you look at
actual sports that did miss out in this round and
you think, well, I mean, surely you go for them
before you go through it.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (57:09):
We've had this discussion about this topic this week, and
I think the thing is you can you don't want
to downplay what these people are doing. They're incredibly skillful
at what they what they do. They're very passionate about it.
No one can deny that. But you can do any
number of things and be that kind of way. But
to me, just because you have sport in the name

(57:30):
also doesn't qualify. And this is that opinion thing, right,
Like Jim said, like what is sport? Everyone has a
different definition. Really in the way I look at it,
I tend to side with Jim. To me, it's not sport.
It's more of a game. It's a hobby. But you
can still be great at it, and you know, and
if you can get funding somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
And plus it's the cost involved. I mean, to swim
from a you know, if you're doing e sports, swimming
from the couch, it's very different to having to build
a pool, you know what I mean? These things is
quite different. Anyway, the Breakers are playing on Christmas Day, Jim,
will you be watching? And how do you feel more
generally about sport on Christmas Day?

Speaker 17 (58:10):
Yeah, that's a really interesting topic, is And I probably
won't look not even probably I won't be watching the
Breakers on Christmas.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Christmas Day.

Speaker 17 (58:17):
But that's not to say that I'm opposed to sport
on Christmas Day, because you know, the perfect day to
watch sport is your day of leisure, isn't it so?
And we all get excited about the Boxing Day Cricket
Test and those.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Sorts of things.

Speaker 17 (58:30):
So having some sport to watch on Christmas on Christmas
Day from a consumer, from a from a spectator customer
perspective is fantastic. From an athletic perspective is probably a
pain in the backside.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
But I'm not morally.

Speaker 17 (58:44):
Opposed to watching sport on Christmas Day at all, you know,
sports entertainment. It's no different really to watching a movie.
But I'm not going to be watching the Breakers.

Speaker 18 (58:57):
That's probably partly to do with how the Breakers have
been as well. But I think I think the thing is,
you know, I think this has been a big part
of the American sports landscape for a while now. The
NBA basketball is sort of pioneered in this. In this department,
I sort of think about for me and my family,
Christmas is Christmas Morning, and then the day kind of,
you know, evolves from there, and if there's a game

(59:18):
on later at that day, then then I would watch it,
I think, you know, also in terms of the players
and if they should be playing on Christmas Day, lots
of people work on Christmas Day, right, I don't know,
And I was actually wondering about this, how it works
with remuneration for the players or bonuses or you know,
extra time or what is it just part of Is
it just part of their contract?

Speaker 6 (59:38):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 18 (59:39):
You would hope that because especially the break is they're
going to be in Tasmania, they're going to be in Hobart,
they have to be away for Christmas. So how does
that all work? I'm not really sure, but I'm not
generally opposed to it, and I think probably a lot
of people at the end of a Christmas Day are
quite happy to flick on the telly and watch something
like that.

Speaker 17 (59:56):
And Ryan, let's not let's not dodge the fact that
for a lot of people, and increasing majority of people,
there's no religious attachment to Christmas date exactly. It's a
day off in a day where we exchange gifts and
for a lot of people you have a big barbecue
and get on the booze. So having sport alongside it

(01:00:19):
seems to be a bit of an actual fit. I mean,
you know, if you went back to the fifties, sixties, seventies, yeah,
it was a very religious occasion in New Zealand, but
for a lot of people now the religious side of
it has got no bearing whatsoever, and it's really just
a relaxing day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
And also if you've got the sport on then you
don't have to listen to your family talking. That's Wroun
fourteen away from six Newstalks. There'b our Sports Huddle continues
with Clay Wilson and Jim Kay's Next.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty
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Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I'm Ryan Bridge Play Wilson News Talks. There's Sports News
director on the huddle with Jim Kay's sports journalists. Guys,
let's wrap up with your look back at twenty twenty four.
Jim will start with you. You're sporting highlight and low light
for the year.

Speaker 17 (01:01:06):
Yeah, it's hard to pick one, Ryan, you know, as
a born and bred Auckland, I loved watching the Blues
win Super Rugby. I loved watching the White Ferns win
their World Cup and the Black Caps beating India in
the series. But if I really had to nail it
down and chisel it down to just one person, it

(01:01:28):
would have to be Lisa Carrington, Dame Lisa Carrington.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
I'm a big lover of the of.

Speaker 17 (01:01:33):
The canoe racing, winning three Olympic gold medals. Was simply
quite outstanding in Paris or in France, the K one,
the K two, the K four, and you know, there
was something quite special about watching her perform and then
by herself, and then in the K two, and then
and then I guess captaining.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
The K four to their gold medals. So if you
really forced me.

Speaker 17 (01:01:57):
To pick one, it would be her achievements in France
at the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (01:02:02):
I thought that was something quite special.

Speaker 17 (01:02:04):
And I think she's, you know, would have to be
probably the greatest Olympian that New Zealand's produced. People will
argue that there's more Blue ribbon events like Peter Snow
with running and that sort of thing, but in terms
of share, number of gold medals and the dominance of
her sport over a long period of time now it

(01:02:26):
struggled to find a more complete Olympian than Dame Lisa Carrington.
I thought what she did in France was simply outstanding.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Yeah, Clay, who would be your well, what would be
your highlight?

Speaker 19 (01:02:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:02:37):
I racked my brain on this one, and the one
I always keep coming back to is the Paris Olympics.
But Lydia co and for a number of reasons, you know,
here's a player who was a teenage prodigy, had so
much success, fell off, came back, fell off again, but
then had just such a brilliant twenty twenty four and
went into that Olympics with bronze and silver medal and

(01:02:58):
so much hype around can she win the goal? Can
she complete the set? And it's one of those things
you almost talk out of existence, and especially in a
sport like golf where it's so hard to win, when
even when you're one of the top players, for her
to do that, and even the final day had so
much drama, and the sort of the icing on the
cake of that moment for me was seeing how emotional
Lydioco was receiving that gold medal. And not to say

(01:03:21):
she she is not an emotional person or she you know,
she hasn't felt you know, pride and a lot of
the success she's had, but you just don't often see
someone like her like that, and she was so she
was clearly so moved by it being up being able
to be up there and we're in New Zealand, fern
and that kind of thing. Lowlight's Yeah, I don't know
if there was there was heaps, here was probably a
few bits and PC ones the one that sort of

(01:03:44):
I'll look back on and wish it didn't. Everyone was
sort of the Warriors falling off, you know, because that's
for me these days. Like you know, I've really I've
always been a Warriors fan, but you know, in terms
of their success recently you get right in behind them.
Had such a great twenty twenty three and then this
year has sort of kind of been disappointing. We've lost
a few players, Shawn Johnson getting injured and then retiring

(01:04:06):
in that kind of thing. And I guess that you
look back at the All Blacks start to the year,
I remember at the time thinking, wow, this is like
hasn't started well at all for Scott Robinson has it?
But obviously things improved there. So I think in terms
of highlights versus lowlights, much more of a positive year
for Kiwi Sport than a negative one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Jim, we have about thirty seconds for your lowlight if
you've got one.

Speaker 6 (01:04:27):
Look.

Speaker 17 (01:04:27):
I agree with Clay New Zealand All Blecks losing to
Argentina not a great performance and the Warriors fantastic home
ground support just not able to match it. So you know,
in a year of huge success for New Zealand sport.
I think we should celebrate those because the lowlights don't
really matter. Amazing Olympics and an all Blacks team on

(01:04:47):
the rise and some great cricket results.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
So been a good year, right, more ups than downs.
The other lowlight The only other lowlight I would mention
would be the River sen That was disgusting. I've had
a lot of it. Seven minutes away from six, Jim
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Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
News Talk ZB just gone four minutes away from six.
Coming up after the news, Sir Roger Douglas. He has
had a swing at his old party. In fact, he
says that the ex party is part of a government
that could be sending New Zealand bankrupt, which sounds quite alarming.
We'll speak to him and ask him why and exactly
what for That is coming up after six. Also, we

(01:05:42):
wrap the week and politics with Barry Soaper. We're live
to Hong Kong with Peter Lewis and to the UK
with Gavin Gray. It's all the head stay with us
as we say Hello Christmas and goodbye working year. Who's
happy about that? I mean, don't get me wrong, I
do love working. It's nice to have you here, thanks right,
and I do love working with you guys. Ann However,

(01:06:05):
it is also nice to get the hell out of
an office, isn't it. I hope you're enjoying your evening
wherever you are.

Speaker 20 (01:06:11):
Any case, you, oh Dolly, have the hollid golly Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Vis you.

Speaker 20 (01:06:22):
Old Dolly have a holly jolly Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
We're Business meets Insight The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge
and my Hr on News Talk ZIB.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Good evening and merry Christmas everyone, just gone seven after six.
Great to have your company here on News Talks. Be
At party founder said Roger Douglas has thrown shade at
his own He's disappointed in the ACT Party's response to
the sweets bleak treasury forecast, saying he does ACT doesn't
have the right solutions for New Zealand's fiscal challenges. This
is the party that he founded. Instead his taken a

(01:07:10):
liking taking a shining to Shane Jones's speech to Parliament
in response to the Hayfu numbers, where he looks to
industries which said growth as a solution.

Speaker 14 (01:07:19):
Look no further than the massive group an export income
coming from the primary sector announced last week fisheries, ah
hortan culture, a farming, a forestry increasing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Now we ask David Seymour, the leader of the ACT party,
if he wanted to come on to have a chat
with Sir Roger Douglas, but he declined a panel discussion.
So I'm joined by the ACT founder, Sir Roger Douglas.
He's with me this evening. Good evening, good evening, Thank
you for being here. Why are you disappointed with ACT?

Speaker 21 (01:07:49):
Well, look, I formed that thirty years ago. And let
me quote a short extract from our founding document. The
question of money is particularly important at the moment. In
the immediate future, we are threatened to the largest debt

(01:08:10):
in our history, a debt that hasn't reached the public's
consciousness in any serious way. It is a debt that
the state owes all of us it's citizens for our
retirement pensions and our healthcare in retirement. Essentially, the deal
is this, we paying taxes. We pay taxes into the

(01:08:34):
system to fulfill our haalf of the social contract. And
between us and them, between us and the government, we
pay taxes. And when we are sick, the contract is
that the government will see look after it. When we
are old, the state will provide for We who pay

(01:08:55):
the taxes have kept our part of the bargain. But
when we are old does the state do its part?
And they are going about the waiting list and say,
when it comes to our retirement we are going to
get Are we going to get the care the support

(01:09:15):
that our parents knew in their post war years? And
that basically we said, in other words, back thirty years ago,
when this document Common Sense for the Change was published,
we predicted that unless we took action to start individual

(01:09:41):
savings account, if we stayed with the pay as you go,
we were going to go broke. And anyone who did
simple numbers three years thirty years ago would have come
to the same conclusion. You could have got a smart
ten year old, they would. But the government didn't want.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
To do that.

Speaker 21 (01:10:03):
No government, well here I wanted to keep power.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah, but well as every government does, apart from one
that Roger Douglas is in it because you're the only
one radical enough to say these things, aren't you? But
why pick on act at the moment, you know, why
write this?

Speaker 21 (01:10:21):
Well, I'm obviously disappointed that the party I founded stopped
following those policies.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
And David Seymour says it's easier from AFAR sitting back
looking on harder when you're actually in there in government.

Speaker 21 (01:10:41):
Oh well, that's true. But if you think about what
we did in nineteen eighty four, we had a cabinet
who said we are going to do the right thing
by New Zealand. We're going to do the right thing
even if we lose the next electure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
And you think that that's what we did, You think
that's lot doesn't have the bulls, that doesn't have the
bulls to do that.

Speaker 21 (01:11:07):
And that's what I'm saying. I don't believe they have.
And when I listened to that debate and listen to
the commentary, you know, I was so disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
So how hard would you have to hacken to spending to,
you know, to actually make it?

Speaker 21 (01:11:25):
Well. I published the answers to this back there thirty
years ago. We published a paper ten years ago with
Robert McCulloch. We published a paper, detailed paper with all
the numbers of what about answers?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Now, well, I mean, how much would you need to cut?
Twenty five thirty.

Speaker 21 (01:11:49):
That's what Treasury do, but I don't believe we have
to do that. My answer is this, essentially we make
the and this is why I get annoyed with that,
because David says these ideas are rubbish anyway, but it'll

(01:12:09):
take a lot of time. I would have attacked the
first fifty three thousand, five hundred tax free. Of the saving,
nine thousand and six thousand would go into SUMER, so
that if you're an eighteen year old, you'd retire with
at least a million dollars in the day's terms, about

(01:12:31):
four million dollars in dollars of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
So basically compulsory compulsory savings and no state super because
that was well, you take take that off the books
because it's going to cost them.

Speaker 21 (01:12:46):
It would, it would take it all off, and you
would save about three hundred billion and forty forty years tied.
And it does cost You're right, And let me tell
you what sacrifices you and everyone else have to pass

(01:13:07):
to make the key, we save a tax break, I
get rid of that. That's a thousand people are saving
six seven. They don't need that. I'd use the super
fun income which is about five thousand million.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, we can't, Sir Roger. Sir Roger, I can't go
through your whole list. I can't get through your whole
list tonight. But even though I know it's a good one,
but I just just one final word from you on
on David Seymour. You know you've given them a bit
of a serve. But at the end of the day,
you're still going to vote act, don't you.

Speaker 21 (01:13:43):
Well, what's my option? They keep my vote because they're
better than the others, doesn't make them perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Sir Roger Douglas, thank you very much for your time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Fourteen after six Analysis the experts bringing you everything you
need to know on the US election. It's the Business
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Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
ZIBB sixteen after sex on News Talk sibb our senior
politicals correspondent as Barry Soper. Time to wrap the political
week that was with Barry Barry High again, you're joining
us from our sunny spot. Now, aren't you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:26):
Hello? Ryan? You're with me to tell wonderful I'm actually
in Tyrone the Corimandel, And if you ever want to
get away from it all, it's a place to come.
The sun is shining brightly, the sea is looking pretty choppy,
it's a bit windy, but we're promised pretty good weather
here on and so here's hoping. Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Em Sorded let your secret out, but lucky you. And
there's a lot to get to want to get away from,
including the worst recessiance recession since nineteen ninety one. We've
been talking a lot about that this week.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
Yeah, incredible, isn't it. It's a pretty Barbara Edmunds, like
I mentioned earlier, didn't have a good look at these
figures and understood exactly what they meant. But you know,
when you look at the figures, basically we've gone into
a third technical recession in the past couple of years

(01:15:19):
and it's just not simply not good enough. It was engineered,
of course by Adrian or the governor of the Reserve Bank.
I think he overdid his pitch and took us in
far too deep and now is struggling to get out
of it. So it's incredible though to think, isn't it. Ryan,
And we spoke about this earlier in the week. You
have Treasury telling one story on Tuesday saying that they

(01:15:43):
may have to increase the bond program by sixteen percent,
which is essentially borrowing. Now reckons that we'll have to
borrow one hundred and forty six billion dollars through New
Zealand bonds over the next four years. That's twenty billion
more than was forecast during the budget in May. Now

(01:16:07):
that it is a pretty dire situation for this country
when you consider the last labor government, and that was
under mister Scrooge as we used to call them, the
late Michael Cullen. He reduced debt right down to I
think it was.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Not nine percent.

Speaker 6 (01:16:27):
I think it was yeah, yeah, of GDP and now
we're up over forty percent and going home forty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
No, it's out of control. Hey, Barry, what about the
local care O The big thing this week? Local councils,
governments now going to pass legislation or mental legislation, you know,
stick to your netting. Is this actually getting through? I
note that Wellington City Councils now not demolishing their city
to see Bridge, even though it's in desperate need of demolition.

(01:16:55):
I mean, they're holding onto these pet projects regardless, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (01:16:59):
Well, well, that's right, and you listen to Tory Fanal
her Golden Mile prospect that looks as it could go ahead,
although there's some certainly on the advisory Group, some dissatisfaction
with that, and there are certainly from retailers along that route.
But nevertheless, you know, no sooner than this reform of

(01:17:20):
local government was announced by Simeon Brown, the local government Minister.
We had the council in Wellington meeting on the Tuesday
and debating whether to make a submission to the Treaty
Principals legislation. Now just three were against that. So they're
going to spend rate payers money or waste ratepayers money

(01:17:43):
by drawing up a submission on the Treaty Principal's Bill,
which of course will no longer survive when it gets
to a second reading next year.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Interesting, lots of councilors are doing that obviously around the country,
and one of them rang me the other day Bury
and said, can you imagine all of them are going
to want to make oral submissions. So how many flights
is that for? How many staff? And you know, just outrageous.

Speaker 6 (01:18:08):
It's as though they don't listen, isn't it right? They
certainly don't listen to the right players.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Certainly not and certainly not the government. The finding that
what's taking so long the Maori party, census data, the
moneyed overm I why are we waiting till next year
for results?

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
Well, you know, there are so many government agencies involved
in inquiring into this that it's a pretty cumbersome process, clearly,
but we will here they tell us now was meant
to be out originally and around July, then it was
delayed further and now it's going to be next year.

(01:18:42):
But yeah, I mean essentially the Maldi Party and in
particular that it's chairman John Tammhery, claims there was no
wrong doing, Everything squeaky clean, and they say it'll all
come out on the wash. Well, let's hope there's not
the dirty linen that were led to believe could come
out on that particular wash, because you know, there's been

(01:19:03):
a lot of allegations fared at the Maldi Party and
using census information to shore up their own vote. They
won Tommockymcolder. Against all odds they beat Penny Henad there
so from labor. So yeah, there's a lot to inquire into,
and I would imagine when we get to next year, Ryan,

(01:19:25):
a lot for you and I to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Read, absolutely, and a lot to chat about too. Barry,
look forward to it. Enjoy your Christmas break and best
to you and here the hope you enjoynny A sunny
time off.

Speaker 6 (01:19:36):
Thank you very much, Ryan and you two and now
wonderful listeners. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Absolutely, if you are tuning in twenty two after six,
great to have you listening. And I hope you're settling
into your what do we call this pre Christmas weekend
or something like that, your little pre Christmas have a
drink basically is what I'm saying. Coming up after the
news at six point thirty, we are live to Peter Lewis,
our Asia Business correspondent. Also we're in London.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and my HR The
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Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Twenty five minutes after six. I've had the privilege in
the few short years that I've been doing this job
to talk and go to some awesome political events like
you know, APEC and stuff like that, where you go
to some interesting places. One place I would really like
to go, and one political piece of theater I would
really love to witness is Vladimir Putin's annual end of

(01:20:34):
year press conference. He's given it overnight, four hours long.
It's sort of like a game show, come AGM for Russia,
very strange, and he stands in front of the press,
which is all his press, right, it's just state media
for four long hours and answers questions, including from a
guy called Steve Rosenberg. And if you read the BBC,
he's BBC's Russia's Russia editor. Imagine being that guy and

(01:20:59):
living in Russi and asking quite challenging questions of Putin
in front of the entire nation. That's pretty much what
he did. Anyway, Putin just being Potin, saying, you know,
I should have started the war in Ukraine earlier, and
the reason I started it is because our sovereignty was
under threat. He says. He feels the country was in

(01:21:21):
a better state than when Boris Yelston was in power.
Who was you know, left power twenty five years ago
or so so that you go potin just being potient
at this, but just what a fascinating place to be
and to be present in. You'd also have to think
if you were Rosenberg and you were a journalist, you know,
for a foreign media outlet living inside Russia, that you

(01:21:42):
would be bugged. You'd be spied on up the wazu
and probably have to take precautions to that. I would
imagine twenty seven minutes after sex you're on News Talks.
He'd be News is Next and we're checking in with
Hong Kong and with Gavin Gray.

Speaker 22 (01:22:00):
Ever be next to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan Bridge
with the Business Hour thanks to my HR, the HR
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Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
We never off, Never, We're never off Zealand. Twenty five
away from seven, you're on News Talk ZAIDB and spare
thought for everybody who's still working. I'm not talking about me,
but I'm talking about people like this Texter who says, hey, Ryan,

(01:22:50):
great to see people out and about in Wellington, but
spara thought for us retail workers who can't slack from home,
can't finish for Christmas, as there is still four days
to go and we have to serve those people who
are all having their days off. Good point, well made. Yes,
you're right. I never did retail myself, but I did
do a lot of hospitality in my day, and there

(01:23:13):
was nothing worse. I know that feeling because you have
to someone has to be on duty, don't they, And
that's you. That's your job, and that's all good. But
there are some times, and there were some days where
you just wanted everybody to get the hell out of
the restaurant, you know, if you're doing the dishes or
you're a weighted there.

Speaker 13 (01:23:28):
I was going to say, Ryan, as a veteran of
retail myself as well, Christmas, not every customer is unreasonable.
A lot of people are very well organized and they're fine,
but that person who texted and is probably having to
deal with the odd person who's really really stressed about
their Christmas preparations and takes it out maybe a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Ye, So yeah, yeah, to what we used to do
to get people out of the restaurant was open the
windows slightly so that they wouldn't see we were doing it,
but it would be cold inside. And also there was
one woman who some described as in most unkind terms,
would start the vat cleaner in the corner of the
room as well, and before you know, the restaurant's empty

(01:24:04):
and everyone's going home, Cryan Bridge, right, we're going to
pay the Lewis Asia Business correspondent who's with us paid
a good evening, Good evening, Ryan. China has been desperate
to boost its economy, retail sales of mess the expectations
and November.

Speaker 23 (01:24:19):
Yeah, this has been the big theme really of twenty
twenty four in China. The consumer just does not want
to spend. And unlike in other Western economies where consumption
can be as much as three quarters of the economy,
in China it really is lagging behind. So China, which

(01:24:39):
has been relying on exports to try and boost its economy,
that's a pillar that is not going to be able
to rely on next year, really needs to get consumption going.
One of the reasons why I can't despite all the
stimulus measures that it's announced is because it hasn't really
done anything to expand the social safety net in China.

(01:25:00):
People are worried about their jobs. Youth unemployment is close
to twenty percent, so very very high. People are worried
about things like health care, which they after the pandemic,
many people realize that, you know, they were going to
have to pay for their own health care. So people
are saving for these unforeseen circumstances rather than spending, and

(01:25:22):
that's been a real drag on the economy. So China
has come up with all sorts of measures to try
and address this, but nothing is really really working. Presidenty
Jinping has said this will be the number one economic
priority next year to boost consumer demand. But the question
on everyone's lips is how what is actually you're going

(01:25:43):
to do to do this? And we haven't seen any
details of any policies yet.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
No when are we going to see details? Do we
have any indication of when they might come, and if so,
how significant they might be.

Speaker 23 (01:25:56):
Well, the China has what's known as its Two Sessions,
which is its major parliamentary meeting in March, and that's
when traditionally you get details. For example, it's economic growth targets,
which last year this year was five percent. The rumors
are it's going to stick with that five percent growth
target this year as well, But the markets are getting

(01:26:17):
very very jittery they just can't wait that long. And
one of the problems we've had this year is we've
had a lot of press conferences from ministry officials promising
all sorts of stimulus, lots of talk, but not much action,
and very little actually done in terms of real concrete policies.
So this is getting more and more urgent, particularly because

(01:26:38):
the Chinese economy is very, very unbalanced. It's really relying
a lot at the moment on exports and exporting all
its over capacity overseas, but that's running into fierce resistance
from places like the European Union and the United States
who are putting tariffs on all sorts of products. So
it's not going to be able to rely on exports

(01:27:00):
next year as its main driver of growth. Has got
to find a way of getting consumer's consumption going again.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Right South Korea, what on earth is happening there?

Speaker 12 (01:27:09):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
What's the situation around the president?

Speaker 23 (01:27:13):
Well, he was Congress voted to impeach him. So now
what happens is there's one hundred and eighty day period
where the Constitutional Court reviews that decision and they will
decide either to uphold the impeachment or they will decide
to reinstate him, and they've started that process.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Now.

Speaker 23 (01:27:35):
Now once that one hundred or once they've made that
decision within that one hundred and eighty day period, they
then have sixty days after that to hold elections and
elect a new president. In the meantime, the current president
is stripped of all of his responsibilities and the Prime
Minister has taken over as president. But it's a very

(01:27:56):
uncertain situation because it really means right now self pred
doesn't have a leader, doesn't have a president, it can't
really take part in major international or diplomatic initiatives, and
that's going to be very very important with the Donald
Trump coming to power next month. It's tried to build
up under the old president alliances with Japan in particular

(01:28:21):
and also the United States. So people are wondering what's
going to happen to those diplomatic initiatives, and everything really
is in limbo, which sort of drags on the economy
and leaves a lot of uncertainty.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Now there is a potential for a merger between the
Carmakers and and Honda. They're holding merged talks. What do
we know at the stage, Well.

Speaker 23 (01:28:44):
If this happens, it was reported on Tuesday that they
are in exploratory talks. The Japanese car makers, as have
car makers in Europe and elsewhere, have been absolutely decimated
by the rise of Chinese carmakers. They've really the last
few years come from nowhere to dominate the electric vehicle market.

(01:29:05):
Their brands all over the world now and they are
really the leading EV carmakers, and it's put enormous pressure
on these more traditional car makers like Nissan and Honda. Nisan, anyway,
has been struggling for years. If it were to merge
with Honda, it would create a fifty two billion dollar

(01:29:26):
car giant, and there's talk about including Mitsubishi Motors in
it as well. This would really transform the auto industry
because it will basically now turn Japan into a two
company market in that sector, and the combined Nissan Honda
Mitsubishi company will be the third largest automaker in the world,

(01:29:49):
behind Toyota and Volkswagen. So this is a really transformative deal.
If it were to happen, it will give the carmakers
a lot more scale to make investments to compete with
the Chinese manufacturers and also with Tesla in the EV space.
But there is going to be one big problem with it,

(01:30:10):
and that is deals like this, one of the ways
in which they save costs is there are enormous job cuts,
and there's a big question mark over whether Japan is
really ready to face up to the types of layoffs
that this type of deal would lead to.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Yeah, and what would they call it? Nissan and Honda?
Which the name do you go with or do you
do a hybrid? That's the big question.

Speaker 23 (01:30:32):
Well, they'll do some sort of new name, like they
did with Stillantis back in twenty twenty one when fear
Chrysler joined with Francis PSA group and came up with
a totally new name called Stellantis.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
I don't like that name. What would you would you
go like? Hessan, Maybean or Nanda? Thank you very much,
Peter Lewis that Asia Business correspondent just gone seventeen away
from seven Brian Bridge? I can't say I've never owned
in ni San. Here's a text for you. Nine two
nine two. What's better? Someone says, uh, Nissanda, Merry Christmas Jase.

(01:31:12):
Nine two is the number of text. What's better a
Honda or in Nisan? There you go, off you go.
I've never owned a Nisan. But my first car was
a Honda Integra and it was a v tech. Does
everyone know what a v tech is? And you know
what a v tech is, don't you. I can just tell.

Speaker 13 (01:31:27):
Because the ninety six Hondred Civic sedan I started out
with didn't have it, which I always wished it had it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Oh so you're without a v check, you're a loser.

Speaker 6 (01:31:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:31:36):
Yeah, it's basically That's basically what everyone told me at
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
Yes, And I'm like the last person who needs a
fast car or wants a far you know, I'm not
that kind of person. But here I was with a
v tech thinking I was so cool. All they are
really is like it's like a turbo, isn't it really?
It just makes it go faster.

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:31:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:31:53):
It basically takes what is a terribly fast car and
just makes it somehow, Like does the magic thing that
suddenly turns it into a hyph before it's machine?

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Yeah, and it makes it there.

Speaker 13 (01:32:01):
It did at the time when me and me were young,
which is all we well, we.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
While to go and it makes that noise, you know,
and it would take off. Yeah, highly dangerous anyway. The
Honda Intigra great car gearbox blew out cost me. I
think I paid for the car four grand or something
like that, and then the gearbox went and that was
going to be more than one thousand dollars and I
ended up selling it to a friend for about five

(01:32:25):
hundred bucks. So it wasn't a great investment. Should have
gone with a Nissan, whether it's Macro micro or just
playing economics.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
It's all on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and
my HR the HR Solution for busy SMEs News Talks FB.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Thirteen away from seven on News Talks FB, We're just
talking to out Asia Business corresponding about a potential merger
between Honda and Nissan, and about your cars. This one
from Jacob says a Honda Prelude VTech in nineteen ninety
nine was the best car you could ever own. Someone
else Brett says a Honda VT engine as one of
the most reliable engines of all time. My Honda CRV

(01:33:04):
has done four hundred and sixty thousand kilometers and is
still going. That is impressive. I thought only Toyotas did that. Anyway,
It's twelve minutes away from seven Bryan Bridge. Devin Gray
is a UK correspondent Gavin A verdict expected later today
in the case against the Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Savigni.

Speaker 24 (01:33:25):
Yes, indeed, run this has been a long time coming
to court. So basically, there was a non governmental charity
boat that was bringing one hundred and forty seven migrants
that they'd rescued in the Mediterranean to Italy. But the Italians,
and in particularly the then minister for that and now

(01:33:47):
Italian Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini, refused, said no, you
can't come here. We're not allowing any more boats and
migrants to come to Italy. By that stage, Italy was
pretty much in under every day with new migrants arriving,
particularly to an island called Lampadusa that one sticks out
into the Mediterranean and was therefore nearer for these boats to.

Speaker 10 (01:34:09):
Get to anyway.

Speaker 24 (01:34:10):
He refused to do it, but eventually the prosecutor in
Sicily ordered the vessel to be seized after inspecting it
and noting that situation had deteriorated very seriously on board.
After this standoff had kept going for three weeks, with
the politician Mateo Salvini saying no, you can't come and
the non governmental ship the open arms, saying, look, we've

(01:34:31):
got one hundred and forty seven migrants here. They are
seriously ill, there's nowhere else for them to go. And
the standoff continued until they were allowed on via a
prosecutor and a legal ruling. Well, it's all come to
court now with Matio Salvin. He accused of kidnapping, dereliction
of duty over that refusal to allow there the boat

(01:34:52):
to dock, and indeed prosecutors and sicily have asked judges
to sentence him to six years in jail.

Speaker 10 (01:34:58):
However, he's a close ally the.

Speaker 24 (01:35:00):
Prime minister, the current Prime Minister, Giorgio Maloney, and he's
saying I was doing what I had to do to
protect Italy. Even Elon Musk has weighed into it, saying
that the courts in Italy are sort of weighed against, biased,
against in favor of migrants and against the government. So
this is going to be a very very interesting decision though.

(01:35:22):
I think if it's against Matteo Savini, we can expect
an immediate appeal.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Yeah, it sounds like they would too. Let's move to
the UK and Minister there has been named in an
investigation into an embezzlement case. What can you tell us?

Speaker 10 (01:35:36):
Yeah, you couldn't make this up.

Speaker 24 (01:35:38):
So the minister who's responsible for tackling corruption in UK
financial markets is now alleged to be involved in a
massive embezzlement in Bangladesh. Sounds odd, doesn't it, But Tulip Sidik,
whose family come from Bangladesh, her family were involved in
a tie up with Russia to build a massive new

(01:36:01):
nuclear power plant, and that deal was said to be
struck in twenty thirteen. However, Tulipsidik, the British MP, who
as I said, is a labor minister, has now been
named into claims that her family embezzled some eight and
a half billion New Zealand dollars from infrastructure projects in Bangladesh.

(01:36:23):
So it was claimed that they deliberately overinflated the price,
Russia paid the price, and that the family that Tulipsidik
belongs to, which was also connected to the then Prime
minister of the country, managed to get the massive amount
of sort of backlayers it were from this deal. Now
Eulipsidik and her sources are saying these are trump to charges,

(01:36:46):
nothing to do with her completely politically motivated her aunt,
who was then leader of Bangladesh has been deposed back
in August, and so they're saying this is all part
of payback for that. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister says he's
got full confidence in Tulip Citygue she will continue her
responsibility as the minister overseeing anti corruption efforts. But as
you can imagine, the opposition party is having a heyday.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
With this rah. You can make hay while the sun shines.
The typical water build in the UK given is going
to increase twenty five percent on average from April. What's
driving there?

Speaker 24 (01:37:20):
Yeah, well, Ryn, this is a massive at a time
when I think people are once again beginning to feel
slightly better, wages rising above inflation. It looks like there's
going to be this massive rise, and that particularly is
because of a massive amount of work on the infrastructure
that needs doing. The many parts of the system are

(01:37:40):
Victorian believed it or not in the sewer system anyway,
and so different water companies, because the UK has a
sort of regional approach to different water companies in different
parts of the country are charging different amounts. But I
did a quick bit of mass and it looks like
the average rise is twenty five percent.

Speaker 10 (01:37:58):
Now, that's going to be about one.

Speaker 24 (01:38:00):
Hundred and ninety New Zealand dollars a year extra. Doesn't
sound much, does it. But we've got petrol and fuel
prices rising again, electricity prices rising again, and yeah, lots
of lots of consumers being need to think when will
these rises ever come to it?

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Opt Yeah, I think we're all wondering the same thing, Gavin.
Thank you for that. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent. It
is seven away from seven News Talk SIB.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Getting ready for a new administration in the US. What
will be the impact?

Speaker 1 (01:38:31):
It's the Business Hour with Hither Duplicy Allen and my
HR the HR Solution for busy SMEs neus Talk SIB.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
News Talk SIB. It is four minutes away from seven.
Can I just say thank you very much for listening
today and for all of your texts and your feedback.
I've very much enjoyed reading it all and thank you
for having me the past two weeks. If you're just
tuning in, I will be back next year with you
on drive. Heather is obviously a busy giving birth to

(01:39:00):
a bare back, so she is taking some maternity lead.
So I'm going to be with you from late January
through till about the end of April, I believe, so
I'm looking forward to seeing you all then. Have a
fantastic Christmas, a wonderful New Year. Just try and laugh
and smile. The world's a bit been a bit shite
this year, hasn't it, So try and enjoy yourselves. What

(01:39:21):
are we going out to today?

Speaker 13 (01:39:22):
An Oh, we're gonna care Harry on this positive theme,
We're gonna go out with wish. We wish you a
Merry Christmas, as performed by Alamino p. This goes to you,
the listener. We wish you a very merry Christmas, all
of us who work on the show, producer Laura, producer Mackenzie, myself,
and the other host, Heather whenever she's she's around as well.
We all wish you a very merry Christmas. And what
better way to celebrate that than this amazingly silly song

(01:39:43):
performed by a band who I don't think you're taking
it that seriously now.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
How I've never heard of either. Thank you, Aunt, and
thanks everyone for listening.

Speaker 19 (01:39:50):
Christmas Marry question you were merry Christmas. We wish you
were merry Christmas and a happy New Year. We will
go on to we well, go on till we get something, Well,
go on till we get some so breysome right here
with your merry Christmas week?

Speaker 3 (01:40:10):
Was your very Christmas week?

Speaker 6 (01:40:13):
What's your very Christmas?

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Happy?

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
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