Full Show Podcast: 22 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Hither duplessy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected you, Tom said.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
B.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,
the country's just declared a hoop and cough epidemic. We're
going to speak to the health bosses about it's serious
for the little ones. More than twelve gang members, twelve
of them have now been arrested and charged for those
gang patch breaches. We're going to speak to the top
cup in charge of chasing them down. And what is
this blue sky that all the cool kids are quitting
Twitter for. We'll have a chat to Bill Bennett, the

(00:35):
tech commentator.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Heather duplessy Ellen, tell you what it feels like.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
It's a bit of a tough time to be the
UN at the moment, doesn't it. I mean, I can't
help but feel that the UN's credibility is increasingly on
the line with how often it's actually just being ignored.
Right now, take for example, what's just happened overnight. Right
the UN's principal judicial body, the International Criminal Court, has
issued an arrest warrant for the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
nettan Yahoo. Now this is ballsy, It's really ballsy, because

(01:02):
this is the first time the ICC has gone after
a world leader who is actually democratically elected and also
one who is backed by a whole bunch of Western powers.
And there's your trouble. What do the Western powers do? Well,
sounds like a lot of them are just going to
ignore the ICC, or at least that's a possibility. The
US says they're not going to arrest Net and Yahoo. Well,

(01:22):
of course, of course they're not going to arrest Net
and Yahoo. There is big as backup. But they're also
not a member of the ICC. The UK, they're not
committing publicly to arresting Net and Yahoo and they are
a member of the ICC. And France, well they won't
say either. They just keep saying it's legally complex. Now
that's bloody awkward, isn't it. I mean, if you've got
three Western powers who are three permanent security members of

(01:45):
the UN and they won't say if they're going to
do what the UN's judicial body wants them to do,
doesn't that undermine the ICC and also the parent the UN?
Then what about the other big UN thing that's happening
at the moment. This is COP twenty nine. I mean,
this is a joke, right, bigger joke than COP twenty
eight last year, and that was a big enough joke already.
The big names haven't turned up this year, Shijingping, Joe Biden, Nerendramodi.

(02:08):
For the second year in a row, the host country
has been busted using the climate You almost can't make
this up. Using the Climate Conference to strike secret fossil
fuel deals on the side so they can make some
money off hurting the climate. And then it looks like
they're going to have to extend the conference by our
day just to try to stitch together the final deal,

(02:29):
because if they don't, this thing is going to look
like a complete flop. And this is without even mentioning
the fact that the incoming leader of the free world
is already preparing, apparently to pull out of the UN's
Paris Agreement, which is like its top climate agreement. So
I don't know about you, but I feel like it's
a tough time to be the UN because we are increasingly,
by the looks of things, starting to tire of its

(02:49):
overreach and it's ridiculous targets and just ignoring it ever,
due nine two is the text number standard text fece apply.
I get you across by the way, a little bit
more detail on all all of the stuff that's going
on with ben Yaminett and Yahoo in that arrest. Wirreate
it's fascinating onto something else altogether. Wellington Airport, now Wellington
Airport has announced it's going to try to attract more

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international flights from the likes of Los Angeles and Singapore,
and it's revealed it's going to do that in a
five hundred million dollar five year plan that includes extending
the runway with these energy absorbing blocks. Here's the chief executive,
Matt Clark.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Enhancing the safety areas around the airport mean that we
can actually optimize the space that we do have and
that produces a one hundred and thirty meta extension to
the effective length of the runway.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Now, catho Brien is the executive director of the Board
of Airlines Representatives and with us. Now, hey, kat Hey,
do you reckon that there's demand in Wellington for these
longer flights.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
Look, I'm not sure that there is a great demand
environment on New Zealand, despite you know, Wellington Airport doing
what is clearly the right thing and investing in some
runway safety areas.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
Why do you think that there might not be the demand?

Speaker 7 (03:57):
Look, if I look at air services demand for New
Yakand in total, I don't see any real growth.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
At the moment.

Speaker 7 (04:04):
So you know, Auckland Airport is looking at pretty much
a flat scenario. You've got a little bit of growth
going to christ Church which is great to see, and
we've got those news services coming to Hamilton next year.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
But outside of that, you know, there's not a lot
out there.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Oh do you think when you talk about growth, you're
talking about growth in terms of airlines wanting to add capacity?

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, airlines willing to come to New Zealand and fly
more to New Zealand. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:27):
I think you know, one of the reasons that they
that they maybe aren't doing that is because of the
increasingly high cost.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
That New Zealand you know, represents in terms of a destination.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yeah, I mean is keav are they future proofing? Maybe
because if we actually play our cards right, we will
increase demand again, won't we.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (04:45):
Look, I think, as I say, Wellington Airport is doing
the right thing by by looking at it safety area
around its runway and making sure it's safely operable, and
so I think that's that's a great thing. I think
whether or not that that brings us more international air
services to Wellington is a another thing.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
I think.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
You know, we, as I say, we aren't sort of
seeing that really around and I think that comes from
a lot of the costs that we're imposing on airlines
who fly here.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Okay, now what about how you pay for this stuff? Right?
Are the airlines going to squeal if they are head
up for it?

Speaker 8 (05:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (05:18):
Look, I mean Wellington Airport consulted with airlines as part
of its price setting process on the EMAS proposal, so
it's included in the capex. It may you know that
the cost of it may change as we roll through
the process. So airlines as is the usual way pay
for airport capex in New Zealand, and that is how
it works.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Is it not actually a good idea to bolster an
airport like this in order to be able to play
it off against Auckland Airport given that you guys are
in such a massive fight with Auckland Airport about its costs.

Speaker 7 (05:49):
Yeah, well, I think you know, it's good to see
Wellington considering that the area around it's one runaway and
making sure that it's safe. So that's a good thing,
and I think in terms of the capex spend it
pales into insignificance as we compare it to Auckland Airport's
five point nine billion dollars of aerononical capecks that we
are going to need to fund up there. So yes,
you know, the different airports have different capex profiles, and

(06:12):
so some airports become cheaper than others, and maybe that's
a good thing. But I think the important thing to
think about when it comes to this runway stuff is
that if the airlines are considering landing on a runway
in the world, their own civil aviation authority has to
consider whether or not that's safe. And so that's a
consideration for each airline and for each you know, international civilization.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
Are you suggesting that there would be civil aviation authorities
out there who'll look at Wellington's plans go not safe.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Well, I think everyone has to make their own assessment, right,
and so I see from Willington's announcement that the EMAS
will will allow any aircraft that runs off the runway
to be captured, which is a good thing, certainly better
than the water.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
But you know it does say with minimal damage.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
And so I think any airline with consult with the
very large, expensive asset would think how much exactly minimal damage?
And you know those are very reasonable questions to be asking,
and there will be a process in which those questions
will be asked.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Fascinating. Hey, Kat, thanks very much appreciated, As Kath O'Brien,
the executive director of the Board of Airlines Representatives known
as Barnes. Listen there and this is You're gonna get
a lot of this, but it is it does bear repeating.
There is a warning once again. It's the hearty annual
over the Black Friday sales. That's next week, isn't it? Yes?
Next week, next week, this time next week is Black Friday,

(07:29):
and things are ramping up already. I don't know about you,
but I've got a thousand emails sitting in my in
box saying, Hey, we're having at Black Friday sale. Will
I'm very excited about it. Now. The thing that you
need to know is before you go, it's a Black
Friday sale. Yay, oh buy that. Just double check the
prices and make sure that they actually are sale sale
prices or pretend sale prices. And the reason for that

(07:49):
is because one woman has gone to the media already
saying she's been looking at an oven at Smith's City
and this thing was on sale. She was looking at
buying the thing when it was on sale for two thousand,
four hundred dollars. It's now on the Black Friday sale
for two seven hundred dollars, and apparently the reason it's
on sale is because the recommended retail price is more

(08:11):
than three thousand dollars. Now it looks very much like
they've put the price up, isn't Obviously they have from
one sale to the other that put the price up.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Smith's City has responded saying, look, no, no, no, we're
not ripping anyone off here. It's just that beforehand, when
she was looking at it, it was a better sale, and
now it's on a less better sale, but it still
is a discount price. So that may well be true,
and that makes complete sense. But if you're gonna buy
it at Black Friday, do not necessarily believe. The lesson
in this is do not necessarily believe that Black Friday

(08:40):
is the best sale in the whole world, because actually
she would have been better off buying it beforehand, and
just double check your prices and make sure that what
you're getting is actually a good deal. You're welcome four sixteen.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Who will take the White House results and analysis of
the US election on Heather Dupless Alum Drive with one
in New Zealand. Let's get connected the news talk say'd
be sport with TB. Get your bed on our eighteen
bet responsibly.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters with us right now Piney.

Speaker 10 (09:13):
Hello, Hello, Heather Poney.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Are you surprised by how strong the squad is that's
been named to play Italy?

Speaker 11 (09:18):
Yep, I am. I am surprised by it. I thought, man, well,
I actually don't mind it, and the obviously raisers saying, look,
I'm not here to muck about. We are going to
get our best foot forward against Italy and rarely put
them to the sword. I wonder whither whether if they'd
beaten France last weekend and had England Island France win, win,

(09:40):
win in consecutive weeks, whether this might have been a
different squad. The fact that they lost last week, albeit narrowly.
I wonder whether they said no we're going to make
sure that the last test of the year is one
that we can hang our hats on. And they've put
out it's about as strong as squad as they could
have put out.

Speaker 9 (09:56):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yes, it's not necessarily about winning and securing the win.
It's about getting the maximum amount of maximum numbers on
that board.

Speaker 11 (10:03):
Yeah, I think the winner is almost inevitable, isn't it.
Sixteen games between these two, sixteen wins for the All Blacks.
The average winning margin across all that time is forty
nine points. So look, I think we all accept that
the All Blacks will win this one comfortably. But yeah,
they could really go to town. I think what we're
all looking forward to seeing and hoping to see is
a cohesive performance. I'm not sure that there's been an
eighty minute performance all yeah by the All Blacks, and

(10:24):
that's not necessarily unusual. But yeah, the fact that he's
put out his strongest side would suggest that he's very,
very keen.

Speaker 10 (10:31):
Razer to finish twenty twenty four and are high.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Ethan's back, isn't he.

Speaker 12 (10:34):
He is back?

Speaker 10 (10:35):
Good to see him back.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
No, he's not necessarily back because he's being a good boy.
Will fit it's because tom Ty Williams is injured, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (10:43):
Look I'm not really not really in possession of all
of the facts. I don't think he'd it to make
a judgment on that of.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Us are because that looks like they're not telling.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Us what's up. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
We'll find out is injured, isn't.

Speaker 11 (10:56):
He Well he's not the twenty three, so yes, I
think he is A was listed at your neck injury?

Speaker 9 (11:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yes, okay, So last game for Sam Caine, last game
for TJ?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Is that right?

Speaker 10 (11:05):
Yep, that's right. So can'll start TJ off the bench.
That'll be it. They'll ride off into the sunset or
to Japan and that'll be it.

Speaker 11 (11:13):
So I guess there's that as far as the All
Blacks have to play for as well to send those
two often.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Style poney Auckland FCA fourth game, Can I make it
four from four?

Speaker 9 (11:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (11:22):
Your favorite sporting team of the year, Heather. They've started well.
They've had a quirk of the draw they had after
they beat Wellington and the derby they had to buy.
Then there was the international break, so by the time
they play MacArthur on Sunday, they wouldn't have played for
three weeks, first time they've had to travel across to Australia.
But look, momentum is a wonderful thing. Even if it's
broken up by a bit of a break. I'd back
them to go over there and continue along the way

(11:44):
that they have been. They're a good football team. They've
proven that in the first three weeks. So yeah, I
wouldn't be at all surprised if on Sunday night we're
talking about Auckland back at the top of the table.

Speaker 10 (11:52):
Four wins from four good stuff.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Hey pony, thank you. Enjoy your weekend. That's Jason Pane.
Weekend Sport host Heather read the long haul flights out
of Wellington. Do you remember Singapore Airlines flew to Wellington
a year ago and then pulled the pin due to
very low demand at fairpoint. Actually, in the demand at
the moment will be particularly low because Wellington is really
copying it, isn't it with the cost of living crisis
and all the public service redundancies and stuff like that.

(12:15):
Now international news you'll have seen that Matt Gates has
pulled out of the running for the attorney general job
under Trump. Trump's already picked the one that he now
wants to replace Matt Gates with and is a woman
called Pam Bondi, who was the ag in Florida. Now
I'm telling you this quite unashamedly, so that we can
talk about Matt back Gates as botox, because that is

(12:35):
what's going on with that face. You do realize that,
I mean, that is not normal, right, Those eyebrows are
not like that is that he has arched eyebrows. He's
born with arched eyebrows, and then he's gone and he
has exacerbated that. He has enhanced that flip and tick
above his eye. Let me tell you so here's the advice. Okay,
if you want to get a little bit of the

(12:56):
botox in the forehead and look, let's be honest, everybody
over forty does you know you want to do it?
You want to freeze that farr down. You want to
It's light touch, boys, light touch, not what he's done.
You don't want to come out looking like a villain
from a DC comic. Okay, you're welcome for twenty two.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
The name you trust to get the answers you need
Heather duple c Alan Drive with One New Zealand let's
get connected and news talk as they'd be.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Heather, you're so right. You need to check your prices.
I use price by It is the best tool for
your sales shopping. You can look back on a product's
price sale history. That's actually quite handy, isn't it. So
you can look back and see if it is actually
not only is it comparable to everything else, because Google
can tell you that if it's the same price as
everything else on sale and the other stores there, you
look back and see whether it's gone up in price.
Thanks for that tip. Okay, so the gang patch bad jeez.

(13:45):
I'll tell you what. Cops are not dicking around here. Oh,
they are actually chasing these guys down if they hear
that they're wearing patches and going to their houses and
taking the patches off them. So this is what's gone
from the sounds of things, maybe potentially as many as
twelve arrests, if not more. So, this is what's happened.
White to Matar, a twenty seven year old headhunter was
at the Henderson Nightmarkets yesterday wearing a sweatshirt with a

(14:08):
patch on it. So he was arrested and charge day.
He's going to appear in court next week. In Counties Manukau,
a fifty one year old Black Power linked Mungo Kaha
gang member refused to hand over his patch to the
officers yesterday morning. He's been arrested and charged. He eventually
surrendered the patch after he had bit of a chat
with the officers. He will appear in court next week.

(14:28):
There were reports of a patched man in a stolen
vehicle in Tuckaninni, so the cops tracked him down at
an address in Altata and he's been arrested too. He's
a fifty one year old Mungo Kaha member. This is
the White Cuts all now forty one year old arrested
after the copp has caught him walking around Linden Court
with a white Mungrel Mob t shirit on shirt was seized.
He's in court next week. They are also looking for

(14:50):
and summons a thirty five year old Mungrel Mob member
for wearing a cap with insignia through a traffic stop.
Bay of plenty. Forty one year old patched Greasy Dog
was on a motorcycle Let's stayed high on State Hiway
twenty nine. They tracked him down at an address they
found a patch in a helmet. Twenty year old was
arrested in the rotruer for wearing a shirt with a
Mongrel Mob patch on it. And then they also found

(15:11):
a bunch of weapons. So that's quite handy, isn't it
that chap? You remember, I was telling you we went
sure if the chap was arrested for driving around it
just three minutes after midnight with the old patch on
the dashboard. Yet he was. He was arrested. Twenty seven
year old man also arrested for wearing a Mongol Mob
cap while driving at eleven am. I'm not even finished

(15:32):
with the list, shall I carry on with I'm going
to because this is so I'm taking a perverse pleasure
out of this. So we'll carry on with the list
after the headlines, shall we. He talks at beat.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
On your spart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Heather duper c allan drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected and you talk as they'd.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Be like a bean's hold.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
It's not PAMBONDI like you're in Sydney, Pam Bondie. So
Dan Mitchinson, our US correspondent, will talk us through Pam
Bondie very shortly. Also Barry super standing by to have
a chat to us in ten minutes time. Right where
were we? Let's carry on with our list of mobsters
who've been busted for wearing their patches in public? Where

(16:25):
was I think I was in the Eastern Districted wide Way,
so a wide oy. Yesterday a forty five year old
man was arrested for wearing a Mongrel Mob t shirt. Now,
just in case you have fallen into the trap of
joining many members of the media and thinking, oh, this
is so unfair on the gang members. He was just
walking down the road. He was just wearing his patch.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 4 (16:47):
His charge will be added to his other charges of
burglary and receiving stolen property. So yeah, he's a champ,
isn't he. Also a summons has been issued for a
thirty five year old man who was wearing a Mongrel
Mob hat at a petrels station and on Havelock Road
in Tasman. A West Side gang member was arrested at
a Stok address after he was seen wearing a patch

(17:08):
in public. I quite enjoyed that and they tracked him
down to his house but the absolute best of all
of them is what has happened to the Headhunters in
West Auckland. So yesterday, because nobody is as brazen and
arrogant in the gang world, obviously as a bikey, like,
they really do take the cake, don't they. So five
of them were on their motorbikes yesterday morning with their

(17:31):
patches on, being like, you can't get us, Well, actually,
yes we can, and we did. So the coppers heard
about that, went over to the Headhunter's West branch, raided
them while they were still sleeping and in their tartan pajamas. Yeah,
you don't look as scary when you're in your tartan pajamas,
do you. And they took the patch, and they took
the motorbike and it was the president's ones that they took.

(17:52):
And yeah, then the video came out of them in
their pajamas, which is probably the final ignomity. Anyway, heither
read the gangs. I'm a retired cop here. That's outstanding,
isn't it. So Paul Basham is the chat who's in
charge of tracking all these guys down and enforcing the
patch ban, and he's going to be with us after
five o'clock to stand by for that twenty three away
from five.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's the world wires on news talks, it'd be drive.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Vladimir Putin has confirmed that Russian forces have fired an
intermediate range ballistic missile at Ukraine. Now he reckons this
is a response to Ukraine firing American and British supplied
missiles into Russian territory. Here's putin.

Speaker 13 (18:28):
The question of further diplomas of medium and short range
missiles will be decided by US depending on the actions
of the United States and its satellites. The targets to
be destroyed during further testing of our newest missile systems
will be determined based on threats to the security of
the Russian Federation.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Donald Trump has announced Pam Bondi as his new pick
for the next attorney General. His first choice, Matt Gates,
has withdrawn from consideration after a backlash from lawmakers on
both sides of the Aisle.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Pam Bondi has previously said there's an anti Trump bias
in the Department of Justice and she wants a cleaned out.

Speaker 14 (19:00):
The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones, the investigators
will be investigated because the deep state last term for
President Trump, they were hiding in the shadows, but now
they have a spotlight on them and they can all
be investigated. And the house needs to be cleaned out.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
And finally, the city of Macon in Georgia is taking
its New Year's Eve fireworks to the next level because
it's hired a demolition firm to blow up a vacant
sixteen story hotel on the strike of midnight. Now, the
hotel opened in nineteen seventy, but it was never a
financial success and it's been empty ever since. Twenty seventeen.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Dan missions the US correspondence with US Hello.

Speaker 10 (19:46):
Dan, Hello Heather.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Great.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
What do we know about Pam BONDI.

Speaker 15 (19:51):
Well, we know that she was sure nominated very quickly
after Matt geezer that he was withdrawing dope. I mean,
I thought this was going to take a little time.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
And then about two hours later.

Speaker 15 (20:00):
Boom Trump announced her as his new choice, and she
had served as Florida's attorney general. Big Trumper Trump says
she's really big against trafficking and the drug issue down there,
and she had worked on the commission focusing on any
opioid crisis, and you know, she was also involved in
the efforts to overturn the results back in twenty twenty,

(20:21):
and she said, you know that the whole election thing
was rigged, and he won Pennsylvania. So definitely somebody that
I think Donald Trump will get along with. And interesting
that after this stuff with Gates came out a couple
of days ago, you know, he started seeing the smoke
and then boom, all of a sudden, today it was
all about the fire.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Now.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
The fact that it was announced that she was announced
so soon after Matt Gates withdraws suggests that Matt Gates
was either pushed out or had come to that conclusion
with Trump. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (20:51):
I think so.

Speaker 15 (20:52):
I think they saw the handwriting on the wall. And
you know, Trump issued a statement on his social media
site shortly after saying, you know, he's a great guy,
looks forward to seeing what Gates is going to do
in the future. But you know, he was putting the
party over his personal opportunity. And yeah, I just think
that that with all these accusations that we're coming out,
and I'm sure we're going to have more in the

(21:13):
future too. They thought this is gonna this is going
to take away too much, and we just got to
get somebody new on there.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Is she gonna, i mean, being quite a few of
his appointments have been pretty controversial and have raised some eyebrows.
How about her?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, I think she is.

Speaker 15 (21:27):
I think we're going to see a lot more too.
I mean every time you get a new president, and
there's usually one or two people that sort of raise
a few eyebrows or sometimes have to step aside because
of their their past. With Donald Trump, sometimes we see
a few more of those people and will likely see
a few more between now and next January.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Now, Ellen degenerous, Now she's left the country already.

Speaker 15 (21:45):
I Well, you know, it's interesting because she lives in Monticito,
which is this flashy part everybody in Hollywood seems to
own a place. It's about ninety miles north of Los Angeles.
And she had said that, you know, if Donald Trump
wins the election, I'm out of here a Carently she's
made the move already to the Cotswolds, which is in
south central England. She's listing her listing her place in

(22:07):
Montecito that she bought back in twenty nineteen, and you've
got a slew of other celebrities. I think Sharon Stone
was another one cher who have said, hey, we want
to leave this country following the election. But I'll tell
you what, Heather, nobody does really, or very few people do.
I mean, it's all talk and nobody holds them accountable
when you're like, well hold it, wait a minute, you're
still here three years later.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
So Ellen, though, I've got questions about this because you know,
I mean, when was your election. Wasn't it only two
weeks ago?

Speaker 15 (22:32):
Wasn't it three h Yeah it was it was It
was just a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, Cama. And she didn't buy the house and the
Cotswolds in the last three weeks, did she?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
No? No.

Speaker 15 (22:41):
I think she's one of I think she's been thinking
about this ever since her her career got sidetracked and
she did this Netflix special and saying, hey, nobody wants
to hire me any anymore. I think this is just
her way of getting out of the country and getting
out of the limelight. But it sounds good because she's
very much to the left, and as we know, mister
Trump's very much to the right.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Yep, it's a good yah, but it's probably not accurate. Hey,
so you guys aren't loving being at work, are you?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well?

Speaker 15 (23:04):
Hold it now now when you say you guys, there
is this poll right now, yeah, and it finds that
a third of employees, only a third are engaged. Now
when you look at it, when you take the global
view right here, there's only about twenty seven twenty eight
percent of people who say that they're happy with where
they are. Only nineteen percent see they're satisfying in the

(23:25):
place they work. So look around your studio right now.
Count yourself, Count your producer, count your text director. One
out of three of you is not engaged. And with
this is this, I wasn't going to stay, adds it.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Could be the German. It could be the German.

Speaker 15 (23:39):
Oh no, no, no, no, can't possibly be her.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Germans never Germans never do anything half pie. They're always excellent.
She's playing on her phone, he says, no, it's her. Yeah, okay,
so we've found out, we're found out one third.

Speaker 10 (23:50):
Who's yours?

Speaker 15 (23:51):
Well, I don't know a lot of people would point
the finger at me, I suppose, but so I guess.
But you know, it's funny because we get these polls
all the time, and I guess more and more too,
especially since the pandemic. They're saying that people aren't happy
because they're not getting the recognition for the work that
they do, and others say that they have a supervisor

(24:12):
or a coworker who don't care about them at work. So
I think what this poll is finding is that workers
who are engaged for a number of reasons find that, Hey,
we're going to do that if it's if we're getting
the recognition that we want right now, if it's a
well being to us as well as.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
To the company.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, I suppose it's probably true. Hey, Dan, thank you,
I appreciated. Good luck with getting your engagement up. That's
Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent. Now, listen, this is not great
news for people who are about to have babies, thinking
of myself here or mums of newborns. But there is
a hoop and coff epidemic that's been declared in this country. Now,
hoop coff is quite freaky when it comes to it
affects older people quite badly, but also newborns get really

(24:53):
badly affected by it. What's happened is that in the
past few weeks, we've had a spike in cases. Right,
We've had two hundred and sixty three k of hoop
and cough. This is pitassis, this is what we're talking about.
And that's the highest number of cases that we've had
in a month in the last year. So it's obviously
right up there. And we have had a bit of
a run of this because we had spikes in May, June,
and July. Now what that thinking is going on is

(25:15):
that this is a bit of a lag of COVID,
So you know, COVID kept all this stuff out and
the borders open. Now we're getting it coming through. Anyway,
I'd love to know how much of this has got
to do with vaccine hesitancy, which has now obviously gone
up as a result of trying to force other people
to take the COVID vaccine and now they've gone a
bit weird. So we're going to talk to the Ministry
of Health about that. When they were with us just
after five, it's quarter.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
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Speaker 4 (25:40):
Certainty Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US.

Speaker 16 (25:42):
Now, Hey, Barry, good afternoon here, though I'd just like
to start with one little issue that I heard in
the news and I'm sure your listener has probably heard
it as well, that it was the best question I've
heard asked. And this whole debate over the gang patches,
and it was not us by a journalist, was asked
by the Prime Minister who suggested to journalists when they

(26:05):
interview the gang members and many of them have been
doing these poor little souls, He said that they should
be asking what did that gang member do to earn
his patch? And I've been yelling at the television news
saying ask them that question, because, like Mark Mitchell has said,
there's tears behind every patch yep that a gang member

(26:28):
wears on his stone.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
I mean, let's understand what We're not just taking somebody's
jacket that they went down to working style and bought
off with their hard earned cash, which they earned sitting
behind their accountant's desk.

Speaker 9 (26:39):
Is it.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
No, It's like that patch has been earned through violent crime,
So ask them how they got it. Exact agree with
you and tyl Hey. So we've got some rules, have
we around how you submit to the Justice Select Committee
on the Treaty Principles Bill.

Speaker 16 (26:51):
Yeah. The interesting thing is Heather. I think there's a
perception that now for the next six months we're going
to have people making submissions to the Parliamentary Select Committee. Well,
in fact, there's not going to be the case because
really the hearings are only going to be heard over
four weeks. They start at the end of January and
go through February, and that's because there's so much administration

(27:14):
that has to go through. When they receive the submissions,
they've got to read them, they've got to decide which
ones will be able to be heard before the Select Committee,
and there's a lot of rules about what sort of
issue and what will be accepted and what won't be

(27:34):
accepted by the Parliamentary Committee. Now they'll hold hearings at Parliament,
but they're saying that they won't be able to hold
hearings on every submission that's sent to the Parliament on
the Treaty Principal's Bill. They'll be also doing them by
video conference, so there'll be that they won't accept submissions

(28:00):
that contain racist material, particularly overt racism and characterizing people
as racist and.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Of course call them race.

Speaker 16 (28:11):
I should have a word to Willie Jackson, who's had
that label a lot strong swear words. They won't be
allowed abusive personal reflections against the MPs or other individuals.
David Seymour will be quite happy about that. But there
are a number of essentially rules that will be surrounding
these submissions, and I would say, let's hope that we

(28:34):
have a good, open debate on it without these terrible
labels being attached to people.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
So is Karen shaw coppying a heavy time because one
of the kids who is at the boot camp has
gone on to reoffend.

Speaker 16 (28:45):
Yeah, well one of these fifteen year old toe rags
has gone out and burgled someplace and converted three cars
by the looks of it. And so she's been taking
flak from those who say these boot camps are a
waste of time and don't work at all. The point
that Karen Chure makes is that she can't personally do

(29:07):
anything about if these any of these ten youth who
were taken into the boot camp for the pilot, if
they reoffend. Of course you're going to get some people reoffending.
They're being given an opportunity to turn their lives around.
If they decided that they're not going to do that,
then of course they'll be reoffending, and that doesn't mean

(29:30):
to say that these boot camps are necessarily a bad idea.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
So how many people, how many kids were at the
boot camp?

Speaker 16 (29:37):
Ten in the lang?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
How many have reoffended one? So that's a ten percent
failure rate. Yeah, so at the stage in ninety percent
success that's right.

Speaker 16 (29:45):
Well, we don't know because they haven't completed.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Well, not at the stage. At the stage, it seems
like a really high bar. And this is criticisms coming
from the Greens large, is it coming from Ricardo with.

Speaker 16 (29:54):
Well, I was coming from yes it is.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Now can I just point out to the Greens that
they have had a greater failure rate with their own MPs,
haven't they than the boot camps?

Speaker 16 (30:04):
So well, the last year I've had three gone well yeah,
so one for offending, breaking the law.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Just saying, just saying they've had as many, by the
looks of things, out of their own caucus, they've had
as many breaking the law as the boot campus. Yeah,
thank you, Barry. We'll wrap the political week that was
later on with you to quarter past six. That's very
so for senior political correspondent eight away from five, putting the.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Time questions to the newspeakers the mic Asking Breakfast.

Speaker 17 (30:34):
I've got a question mark around the new proposed medical
school in Wycatto. It's National Party policy, of course, butack
to wonder about the maths and whether it all adds
up the act Leader David Seymore's with us.

Speaker 18 (30:42):
It's absolutely an argument around how you get more doctors,
for example, when it makes sense to expand the two
very good medical schools we've got before we eat the
fixed costs on creating a new one.

Speaker 9 (30:52):
This is a fight.

Speaker 17 (30:53):
Have you been recruited by a tiger in Auckland because
they don't like the fight and broken?

Speaker 19 (30:56):
You know?

Speaker 18 (30:56):
I look at the lay the University of Auckland's behavior
to earlier.

Speaker 9 (30:59):
In my deg we were forty second in the.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
World when I was there.

Speaker 18 (31:02):
Now we're one hundred and fifty because of the unending
crap they insist on teaching instead of actual science in academia.

Speaker 9 (31:08):
That I was prejudiced that it'd be against author.

Speaker 17 (31:10):
Back Monday from six am to the Mike Hosking Breakfast
with the rain drove of the last news Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Can you please ask Barry what he thinks of Matthew
Howson's article in today's Herald. It's scathing, Bruce, Yes, thank
you for that. Barry's gone already, so maybe when he
comes back at quarter passis. But we'll try and get
try and get to the article. We've got a fair
bit to get through today, but we'll try to get
to the article. I'm getting a bunch of texts on
the ICC versus the ICJ just pulling me up on
saying that the ICC is part of the UN. It

(31:37):
is fair to split hairs on this the ICC. This
is the International Criminal Court that's issued there rest warrant
for netnya, who is not strictly part of the UN.
But it was set up by the UN. Right, So
what happened was the UN established and a treaty called
the Rome Rome Statute, and that was negotiated within the
UN and it is endorsed by the General Assembly. So

(31:58):
it's kind of part of that, you know that they
go all mess that the UN is, So thank you.
Splitting hairs is fair enough. Still stand by the point
that I was trying to make Blue Sky, Blue Sky.
Blue Sky is the new thing on social medis. So
if you don't like the twits anymore and you're sick
of it, you can migrate yourself over to Blue Sky,

(32:20):
and you know, Luke sky Waterker is there, like Mark
Hamill in real life. Lizo's there, and a whole bunch
of other people, and they seem to have all quit
because they're very angry that Donald Trump is back, and
they're blaming Muskie for it because Muskie obviously helped them,
and that's a fair point, and so on. Now twenty
one million other people are there, and the question, of
course is should you migrate yourself over to Blue Sky?

(32:41):
And I would say don't bother because just give it
up altogether. I'm primarily of the view just give it
up all together for your own mental health. But if
you absolutely have to go over there.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
Go and do it.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
But I suspect this is going to end up the
new Threads. Do you remember Threads? No, because because nobody does,
because Threads were supposed to be the face book version
of Twitter, and everybody was like, whoao threads. Yay, now
we can get away from Elon Musk and the evil
Twitter and who uses it exactly nobody. So anyway, Bill Bennett,
I'm quite keen to see he's a tech commentator that

(33:13):
actually knows what he's talking about unlike me, and I'm
quite keen to see whether he thinks it's also just
going to become a nothing. He's with us at quarter
past five. But next up, let's talk about the hooping
coffee and then we'll talk about the games.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
New so zebby.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.
Heather due to Clan Drive with One New Zealand. Let's
get connected and news talk.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Said, be.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Good afternoon. Health authorities have declared a national hooping cough epidemic. Now,
this is a very serious or other infectious disease and
it has actually particular can be particularly dangerous and serious
and even deadly for older people and newborns especially. Doctor
Nicholas Joan is the Director of Public Health at the
Ministry of Health. Hey Nicholas, hi there, listen, give me
some context. How worried are you? Are we just at

(34:08):
the start of something or are we full blown into
a massive problem right now?

Speaker 20 (34:14):
Look, hooping cough is a serious disease, particularly as you said,
for children under twelve months, and we know that about
fifty percent of babies who catch hooping cough before that
age and are hospitalized under six months, I often need
to go into intensive care. So it's a serious disease.
We're at the beginning of this epidemic, and we've seen

(34:35):
in previous epidemics that can go on for about eighteen months.
The last time we had about forty seven hundred cases
reported over that time period, and judging by what we're
seeing overseas, we'd be expecting high numbers and that. Again,
so yes, it's a serious situation, but it's the beginning
and it's not going to it's not going to go

(34:56):
up overnight.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
How long before we're full blown into it then it's.

Speaker 20 (35:00):
Really hard to predict, but I think it's weeks to
months rather than days.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, okay, Now what are you putting this down to.
Is this kind of a lag effect from the borders
being closed in US not having much of it around,
or is it vaccine hesitancy or is it a bit
of both.

Speaker 20 (35:17):
Look, it's partly to do with this disease itself. You know,
the body's own immune response. This disease doesn't produce lifetime imenity.
So whenever you're in that situation that no vaccine is
going to give you lifetime immunity, so we're going to
be getting naturally waning immunity over time, and that builds
up in the population and we get these outbreaks. On

(35:37):
top of that, We've got situation where we've had our
borders closed and we've had control measures in place, a
lot of hygiene measures, et cetera with COVID, and we
think that probably means has been less infection in the community,
generally less opportunities for older children and adults to kind
of be boosted naturally. And we've seen this in other
countries that the levels are when it's come around again

(35:59):
seemed to be much higher. Whether I don't know how
much vaccine hesidency is contributing to this. I suspect not
as much as we might think. Look at an issue
and obviously getting your vaccines on time as one of
our key messages, but I think there's other factors at play.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Nicholas Hey, thanks very much for ruining us air at
Nicholas Jones, Director of Public Health at the Ministry of Health.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Ever due for see Ellens.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
The number of gang members charged in the forty one
hours since the gang Patch band came into effects now
sitting at around about twelve, among them the Headhunter's president
in west Auckland, who was arrested in his pjas during
an early morning raid this morning. Assistant Police Commissioner Paul
Basham's with me. Now, hey, Paul, here are you very well?

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Paul? Do you reckon that the gangs were expecting you
guys to go this hard and actually track them down
to their houses to get the patches off them.

Speaker 9 (36:48):
Well, we've said right from the very beginning through this
period of engagement that we would be consistent in the
way that we took in fust connection or if we
could deal with it at the time. Was subsequent we
when it was safe to do so, well, when we
were following reports of breaches of the Gangs Act. So
for us, this is us following through on exactly what

(37:09):
we said, what do we do and sending a clear
message that the people are going to break the law
or breach the Gang Act in the way that has
secured up to this point. We will follow through that
they can expect us to take enforcement action.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
How are you guys aware that they are doing this?
Are you actually seeing are your officers seeing them? Or
are you getting tips from the public.

Speaker 9 (37:28):
It's a variety of things. It's a variety in the
way that all sorts of crime and incidents are reported
to us through sort of common channels. So yeah, it's
not just one thing. It comes in different ways. But
we've said that when this sort of stuff comes through,
we'll follow up as quickly as we can. And today's
search Wance it's a case in point where something was
reported in the early hours after the law came into effect.

(37:52):
We were able to make those inquiries, sort of draw
those dots together, as it were, and get out and
do those wants this morning.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Do you want us to do if we're driving down
State Highway one and we see a gang member or
a bunch of gang members being clowns about it, do
you want us to call it in?

Speaker 9 (38:08):
Absolutely? You know, it's like they're breaking the law, and
we would expect people to make good judgments just like
they would have observed any other breach of the law.
I mean, we've been also sort of seending messages around.
Certainly if they are frightened or they're seeing something that's
kind of violent or arrest to safety, they will start
a triple one. If it's something that's a startical, they

(38:29):
can call one oh five or reported online. So all
of those normal channels and all those normal judgments that
people use all the time, and they make common decisions
around what they want to report to us.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
How many of these cases and how many of these
cases have you found when you go around to the
house to get the patch, Gangs, guns and other stolen
stuff and things like that.

Speaker 9 (38:48):
Well it's literally in terms of you know, you know,
going down on the search wors. Most of the enforcement
action that we've taken to date, there's a curred in
the public place where we've been able to move to
an aar rest and we'll see the pets in a
public place subsequent to better pest. But you know, it's
not uncommon for us to go through the front door
or the door being associated address for one reason and

(39:09):
stumble across, you know, or detect criminal offending on other grounds.
So that's always possible, and you know, I think this
is partly why members are encouraged to make good choices.
Was one, because if we want them to obey the law,
but have an interest in doing that because they don't
really want the heat and other parts of the criminal enterprise,

(39:31):
good stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
He Paul, Thanks very much appreciate it. That's Paul Basham,
Assistant Police Commissioner Heather Do for l Now, look you
if you're watching these cases, the people dying in Laos
from the methanol poisoning, and it's freaking you out. Look
fair enough if it's freaking you out, because who wants
who wants to go away on holiday, have a cocktail
and get in trouble. Here's a tip for you for
how to actually slow down the poisoning. If you think

(39:52):
you've got methanol poisoning, starts out apparently feeling you just
feel drunk, right, You just feel like you've just had
had something to drink, and then you start to feel sick,
and that's when you should be thinking, is this methanol poisoning?

Speaker 9 (40:03):
Now?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Doctor Paul g who's an emergency specialist and toxicologists says,
one of the first aid things that you can do
is actually get your hands on legit alcohol, proper alcohol,
you know, the stuff without methanols. So look, I don't know,
wine spirits whatever in a bottle and then drink it
and basically that will stop the production of the acid temporarily.
That's the stuff that is making you. Second poisoning you

(40:24):
and it'll buy you time and in that time, get
yourself to a hospital and I'll check you onto dialysis
and intensive care. Five point fourteen. Oh by the way, Okay,
you've seen obviously by and now it's coming up seventeen
past five. You've seen obviously by now the All Black squad.
You've seen Ethan's back, Ethan's back out of the dog box,
Ethan de Groot, and you'll have seen that's a full
strength team. And we talked about it earlier on. We're

(40:46):
going to have a chat to Scott Hansen, who's the
All Blacks assistant coach. He'll be with us just after
the half past five years. Right at the moment, let's
talk about what's going on with social media. So apparently
the latest thing on social media is the thing called
blue Sky. It's like an alternative to Twitter. If you
don't like Twitter anymore, then you can migrate yourself over
to blue Sky, have a nice time with people who
feel the same as you do about Donald Trump's election

(41:06):
and Elon Musk and so on. And apparently it's hit
about twenty one million people using it. Tech commentator Bill
Bennett has been checking it out and is with us.
Hey Bill, Hi, any good?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 12 (41:18):
It's really like old school Twitter, go back sort of
five or six years before Elon was involved, and again
a bit before that as well, and it's very similar.
It's got the same sort of vibe. It looks a
lot like Twitter. But there's a reason why it looks
a lot like Twitter, and that is because it's actually
a Twitter side project. It was started by the people
at Twitter. They were in effect rewriting the products, and

(41:44):
not long before Elon Must took it over. It's spun
off as a separate business. Kind of fortunate for them,
I suppose, given the way things turned out. So it's
really got that kind of old Twitter vibe to it.
It's not but it's not like Twitter in an of
really quite important ways. One thing is is that if
someone's annoying, if you're they're bothering, if you're a woman

(42:07):
and you're getting adrow from a bloke.

Speaker 9 (42:09):
You can just block them.

Speaker 12 (42:10):
You can just completely block them and you don't have
to hear from them and they don't hear from you.
And you can't do that on Twitter anymore. If you're
you know, if someone's bullying on Twitter, you've got to
put up with it, but you don't on Blue Sky.
The other thing is is that Twitter will decide what
it thinks you should see. So if you're actually still

(42:30):
on Twitter, you'll see an awful lot of what Elon
has to say his baby. You don't on Blue Sky.
You choose what you get to see. You don't get
someone else decide.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Like old school Twitter. Yeah yeah, okay, So I mean
this kind of thing kind of lives or dies based
on whether you get enough famous people. Got a few
few international famous people, got any famous Kiwis on it?

Speaker 12 (42:56):
I don't think I've seen anyone who recognizable yet. You
certainly don't see any famous sports people on there.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Is what's going to work or is this going to
go the way of Threads?

Speaker 12 (43:07):
Well, it's interesting at the moment. It's got twenty one million,
as you say, that's probably about a tenth for what
Twitter has. Threads should have more today than that. But
Threads is kind of It's got lots of people there,
but it's tumbleweed rolling down the street if you go there,
and Blue Sky is anxiety. But the thing is, I

(43:28):
don't think it's ever going to be another Twitter in
that it's going to be something that everyone goes. So
I think you're going to see a fragmented market with
different different social media platforms to people, you know, with
different vibes and different groups of people.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Interesting stuff. Bill, thanks very much, really appreciated. It's Bill
been at Tick commentator hither. I just had to look
at Blue Sky, let's say, or not be going there.
I'm not on Twitter either, but the rubbish from the
love's on there is ridiculous. It's not altogether a good
thing that this is happening, by the way. I mean,
like Twitter is horrible. You know that We've discussed that
a million times. But if you're going to have if
you're just gonna have Twitter now populated by a bunch
of right wingers, and then you're gonna have Blue Sky

(44:05):
populated by a bunch of left wingers, that's not really
that's just driving people into the echo chambers.

Speaker 21 (44:10):
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:10):
You're supposed to all hang out in the same place
so you can share ideas and not go further and
further into your corner. But anyway, whatever, this is the
way the world is going. I suppose now talked at
the start of the program about the arrest warrant that's
been issued for ben Yaman nettin Yaho. As I told you,
France won't answer the question as to whether they would

(44:31):
actually arrest him. They say it's legally complex. The UK
refuses to answer the question as to whether they would
arrest him. The US is not gonna arrest him because
they're not a member of the ICC. Netherlands and Italy
say they will arrest net and Yaho. It's very bloody
awkward for a bunch of countries, like especially European countries,
who are giving Israel arms, so they're actually helping Netanyaho

(44:51):
to do what he's doing, but then they're supposed to
arrest him when he arrives we in the country if
that ever happens. We're going to talk to a law
professor about this from Auckland University just after six see
whether this is ever going to actually result in an arrest.
Let's talk about Bunnings next. I'm quite into this.

Speaker 22 (45:05):
Five to twenty one, Heather Duplicy Allen cutting through the
noise to get the facts. It's Heather Duplicy Allen drive
with One New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talk
as they'd be.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Hither I beat you one hundred bucks. You can't get
it out of the All Blacks assistant coach? What happened
to group? You're on muzz Let's see how we go
five twenty four. Now listen on Bunnings. I'd been really
fascinated this week by the drama unfolding in Australia over
Bunnings using the facial recognition technology in its stores. We
knew about this a little while ago, but this week
it got smacked down by the Aussie Privacy Commissioner for

(45:38):
it because, look, to be fair, Bunnings didn't tell people
that they were using the facial recognition and they should
have told people that they were using the facial recognition,
but then the Privacy Commissioners had to crack at them
for actually doing it in the first place. I actually
think Bunnings is justified in doing what they were doing
because let's talk about this, right have you. I've seen

(46:00):
the footage of what is going on in the Bunning
stores in Australia. They've put out some footage to try
to explain to us why it is that they're doing
this stuff, and honestly, what's going on there is out
the gate. I mean there is one guy who pulls
out what looks like a fairly significant hunting knife, walks
up to a worker and holds it to their throat.
There's another guy who comes in just holding a shotgun,

(46:22):
starts walking through the store. And another guy is in
a verbal altercation at the counters with a staff member
just clean punches the staff member in the face out
of the blue. Another guy runs out with both hands
holding boxes of stuff that he's busy nicking, knocks one
of the lady staffers to the floor. She looks like
she cops her head on the concrete floor really bad.
And it's like, it's rrific what these people are having

(46:43):
to deal with. I can't blame Bunnings for wanting to
scan everybody's faces before we come in and making sure
that that guy who came in with the knife does
not come in again, or that guy who punched the
staff member does not come in again. I mean, isn't
that fair enough? The Privacy Commissioner says this in Australia,
just because a technology may be helpful or convenient does
not mean its use is justified. Well, I don't know.

(47:07):
I think it's justified in this case. I love Bunnings.
I'm gonna go there this weekend again because I'm just
looking for excuses to go there, and I could not
give two hoots if they scan my face. If they
scan my face, go for your life, Bunnings, because I
want you to scan my face to make sure I'm
allowed in it, and then scan the next guy's face
and make sure that he's not a bad guy. And
if he's a bad guy, keep him out at the store.
Because remember, if Bunnings thinks you're not a problem, they

(47:30):
are going to delete your face like that, like it's
gone in less than a second, the blink of an island.
They say they're deleting it that quickly. Now, I reckon,
this is an example of us worrying too much about
the wrong thing, Like we're worrying too much about an unlikely,
wild possibility of something happening like your face getting hacked
or something, and not worrying enough about the much more

(47:50):
likely possibility, judging by these videos, that someone actually gets hurt.
And I think, yeah, privacy is important. I value my privacy,
but geez, I tell you what I value the physical
the physical safety of those workers. If I have to
be honest, a lot more.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Heather duplicy Ellen, this.

Speaker 4 (48:07):
Is cool for Catholics. Have a listen to this. There
is a parish in Switzerland and you can go into
the confessional and you can confess to Jesus. You don't
have to make do with some crappy priest or like
some I don't know, some standing. You can do Jesus.
They've got an ai hologram of Jesus looks like what
we think Jesus looks like. And the good thing is
you're not going to fully believe it's Jesus, because I

(48:29):
don't think that's healthy. Because apparently Jesus will say to you,
peace be with you, brother, even if you're a sister.
So there's still an element of understanding that Jesus is
not altogether real, and apparently his answers is a little
His answers are sort of trite and cliched. But yeah,
there you go. You can go and make believe with
Jesus in Switzerland. Isn't that cool? I actually think it's

(48:50):
kind of cool.

Speaker 10 (48:50):
Headline's next.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Hard questions, what's the strong opinion ever?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand, let's get connected
and news talk zed be.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Heather, I'd be more worried about that Swiss Ai Jesus
capturing data than Bunnings's face recognition. Love your show, JEFGFF,
you're bang on. I mean, you're not telling Bunnings what
you did last night, are you? But you are telling Jesus.
So if they are recording that, you're in big trouble.
Fair point. Hey, Chijingpang apparently has been at G twenty
and APEC this week, pitching himself as sort of the
good guy versus Donald Trump is the bad guy. Peter

(49:27):
Lewis will bear us in an hour out of Hong
Kong and talk us through that. And also the sports
huddle is standing by. It's twenty five away from six now.
The All Blacks have announced a surprisingly strong side to
face Italy this weekend. It's surprising because Italy has actually
never once beaten us in the game of rugby union.
The game kicks off at ten past nine on Sunday
morning our time, so tune into ZEDB for life commentary.

(49:47):
And Scott Hansen is one of the All Blacks assistant coaches.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Hey, Scott, good.

Speaker 23 (49:51):
Morning here from turin, Italy.

Speaker 4 (49:53):
Heather, Scott, I'll tell you what I'm excited about, in fact,
Ethan Degrusie's back.

Speaker 23 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, Ethan, I'm excited looking forward to this weekend
tomorrow night, a big game up front against the Italians,
a big, passionate forward pack, so great for us to
send out the big man.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
So were you going to spill the tea on what
was going on? Was he naughty or was he unfit?

Speaker 23 (50:18):
Or our protocols? Our protocols? As mentioned, our protocols didn't
quite reach one of them. So at the time protocol
nothing more serious than that, to be honest.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Oh are you telling me you missed a deadline?

Speaker 23 (50:32):
Pretty much? So, just the standards we have in the group,
there's a deadline around where we needed to be. That
was the protocol and as we always do, we've been
held account to what that was as a group, and
then for us it's just around just moving forward, which
we've done. Ethan's excited for this game against the Italians tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
But was it like a you missed the deadline because
you got two booths the night before and slept in
or was it just like you just mister deadline not
a big deal.

Speaker 23 (51:03):
Yeah, again, it's been dealt with either I appreciate the question.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
It's been dealt with by.

Speaker 23 (51:10):
Raiser, the leadership group, and as I said, Ethan's excited
for the weekend. We're bouncing forward, excited to see him
jump out.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
No, I see where this is going. You don't want
to say that's all right, We're just fascinated by it. Now. Listen,
I see Sam Kines in the starting fifteen. Now is
this because he is your best or is it because
it's his last game?

Speaker 23 (51:31):
This is because this is the team that we need
this weekend to perform really well. And Sam will wear
the seven jersey, do you guys.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
I mean it's quite we're all a little surprised that
you're fielding this super strong team given it's the Italians.

Speaker 23 (51:46):
Oh, there's a lot of respect for the Italians here,
as you would know Whither. They've done a very good
job in your six Nations, very competitive there. They've brought
us to Turin, near the mountains and the cold. So
we're throwing a team that we know will do well.
But we're going to be focused on our our performance

(52:06):
of putting in a good one built around forwards, what
we need there and also our experience on the day.
So Hither for us, it's an all back team that's
going out. It's it's got to put in a performance
we can all be proud of, and it's of the
group that we're looking to do that with this weekend.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Scott, tell me, how do you feel you guys have
gone this year in your first year as a coaching team.
Do you reckon you've convinced us?

Speaker 23 (52:31):
Well, that's that's for you to decide. You've got the
ability to here through your narrative to decide to adhither.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
So I reckon you have. I mean, but I look,
I reckon you have because I reckon you took a
team that was performing really inconsistently and at times really poorly,
and you've managed to sort of it's a bit of
a shaky start at the start of the year, but
you've managed to get to the end of the year
doing pretty well.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Right.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
I think there are some rugby commentators who aren't as
convinced as I am. So what do you reckon?

Speaker 23 (52:58):
There's definitely things to work on, and to be honest
with you, hither, it's week to week here, so you
build your performance around that weekend's test and you bounce
into your Monday, you go through your learnings, whether it's
the outcome was your way or not, then you bounce
into the next Test. We haven't really sat back yet

(53:19):
and analyzed the season as a whole because Test match
rugby is so focused on each week. We'll get time
to do that in the coming weeks together as a
management group. But what I will say is we've been
so proud of the group the way they've responded to
our challenges. I think there's twelve due potents this year
that have come on and represented dealbacks for the first time.

(53:41):
All these little layers around how we've built our game,
our relationships both on the field and off. Really proud
of the group. Just an outstanding group of young men
that represent New Zealand so well, both on and off
the field. Where we go, the boys always complimented on
how they behave their manners, how they look after people,

(54:04):
so all these things in the background that I think
is zone should be really proud of.

Speaker 12 (54:07):
The all Black sport.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Now I heard that you guys are you are you
using Juventus as changing sheds? Is that right?

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Well?

Speaker 23 (54:14):
Possibly, we're definitely playing at the home field where we
had the great privilege yesterday of going in and visiting
their facilities and meeting some of their players and their
head coach. We went to their museum, which was amazing
the history of the club. So tomorrow nights, you know,
if we're in the in their shed, then again quite

(54:38):
a cool little moment for us.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Scott, thank you so much, mate, go well tomorrow. That's
tomorrow for you. Obviously a little bit longer for us.
Our Sunday morning, our time, Scott Hansen, All Blacks assistant coach,
did I I mean, so what we got was Ethan
to group, mister deadline, but that's all we got. I
felt like this a half win on the bet nineteen
away from six.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
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Speaker 24 (55:11):
The way that they would like to be remembered more
is like a good person from a small village in
Majorca that just a kid that follow their dreams.

Speaker 8 (55:25):
The guys were desperately disappointed last week. You know, we
created so much and Breach just talk a few opportunities
and you know it's been a big forty days for
us and we want to finish on Saturday night with
his performance with Creditive on the.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Sports Tittle of Us this evening Matt Brown, Oceania Football's
Confederations media manager and Nick Bewley, News Talk zbes Canterbury
Sports Free to hire you two. All right, So Nick,
obviously they want to end the year with a bit
of a statement score. But apart from that, what do
you reckon have they convinced us?

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Look, I think the first year ever worked up cycle.
So anyways, very much a year of discovery and look,
it hasn't probably been the revolution that some of US
rugby commentators were expecting, but I think, as Scott Hanson
alluded to there, they're very much in a better place
than they were during the Rugby Championship. When I reflect
on the year, that real black mark is that Argentina
defeat at home. I think I've been on your program

(56:17):
in this very slot saying there's no shame in losing
to South Africa twice in South Africa, and I'll add
to that, there's no shame in losing narrowly by the
barrister margins one point to France in Paris. So look,
we expect them to get the job done. And it
would be a very different conversation next week if they
somehow lost to Italy. But I think they can sit
back at home provided they get the job done, and

(56:38):
they should and look in Yes, four losses and black
and white doesn't look so flash. But again, first year
of a World Cup cycle. I can't remember the last
time I was sitting at a pub with my mates
talking about twenty sixteen or twenty twelve. It's all about
the years twenty three, twenty nineteen, twenty seven in this instance.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
So I think it's a pass.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Yeah, I think so too, Matt. Matt. I was saying
to one of the sports guys the other I'd read
somewhere that Razor has a winning rate at the moment
of sixty nine percent. Now, obviously if he wins against
Suttaly it'll go up, but sixty nine percent. They were like,
is it that high? That's not that bad. It's not
that bad, is it.

Speaker 25 (57:11):
Well, sixty nine percent is not great, to be honest,
I mean, but then again, we've been blessed with people
like you know, it's Graham Henry, Steve Hanson and.

Speaker 4 (57:20):
Graham Henris. It was a lot high, are you comparing
it to Graham Henry's first year though not his first.

Speaker 25 (57:25):
Year when he lost what five tests in two thousand
and was it two thousand and four?

Speaker 1 (57:29):
If we go all the way back, yeh did you go?

Speaker 12 (57:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (57:32):
Look, I give him about a seven out of ten
to be honest. I think performance wise at times, I
think the England tests, we did not perform well in
New Zealand, but they were the first two tests. I
also agree with Neck about South Africa in other benchmark,
at the moment, we could have won both those tests.
They were that close in South Africa, and of course
the highlight would have to be that winning Ireland to

(57:53):
break their winning run of nineteen tests in a row.
So yeah, a lot of positives, without a doubt. I
mean to see guys like it's a tt to really
emerge via and Byer's case, a real leader. I think
TV is going to be there for a decade, I imagine,
and you know, to see some of the young players
start to come through. I still have real concerns over
first five, particularly long long term. I don't see where

(58:15):
where the next first five is coming after after Boaden
Barrett and Demi McKenzie.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
So I think we have some concerns. But ye, overalls, overall.

Speaker 25 (58:25):
I think yeah, A past mark for sure.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
Yeah, okay, let's take a break. I want to come
back and talk about cocaine news. What a tease?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
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Speaker 4 (58:40):
Right, you're back with the sports tittle. Matt Brown, Nick
Beuley like Matt okay, answer this question for me. Should
we be suspending players for doing recreational drugs if we
didn't even know that they were doing it and they
did in their spare time and the only reason they
did a recreational drug was because we found it in
their blood because we were testing them for doping.

Speaker 25 (58:57):
Yes, yes, and yes ah, yes, I think we should look.
It's banned for as a band stimulant under the water
list for example. For that's the first point. And also
you know it's against the law, so something illegal. I mean, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
It's a bad role model.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
But Matt okay, hang on to take so marijuana is
also banned by WADA. That's not a stim like try
taking marijuana and playing a game of cricket, right, And
nobody believes cocaine is actually a stimulant, it'll lasts for
about twenty minutes, and.

Speaker 25 (59:24):
It's on the band Listen.

Speaker 21 (59:25):
As an athlete, you know you can't compas technical sport. Yeah, technically,
and in my view if you if it's a band stimula,
I mean on the list, Matt, why is it?

Speaker 10 (59:39):
That's not a question for me.

Speaker 25 (59:41):
But it is on the list, and I and he
would have known it's on the list.

Speaker 16 (59:43):
That's the other thing.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Yeah, I suppose. I mean, you can't get around the
rules cany nick. But it's a bit dumb, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I tend to agree with what Matt's saying. That's the
only point I'd make is that this Doug bracefl situation
that we're talking about in terms of recreational use.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
You compare that to.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Josh Ada Tart who is in our news the rugby
league player over at the Canterbury Bulldogs pulled over by
the cops and a random roadside drug test ends up
getting you test positive for cocaine. Is as NRL contractors
is ripped up. But I do wonder there where you
know where the cops should be doing this type of
thing when it comes to your road policing and what
have you? As opposed to drug free sportings, at least

(01:00:22):
having a deeper conversation with some wider context around should
recreational drugs be on the on our list of of
what our what we're what we're seeking in terms of
obviously doping and and performance enhancing drugs. But ultimately, as
Matt says, it's it's illegal dunk and all the other
New Zealand athletes will know it's there and that's and
that's the low.

Speaker 9 (01:00:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:44):
Yeah, So basically, how long do you do you guys?
I mean, like weed stays in your system for two weeks?
How long does coke stay in your system?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Asking the wrong people?

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Heather, Yeah, that's a pregnant lady as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
But look what the one thing I can say, and look,
I'm not condoning it by any way, shape or form,
but you do hear in sporting circles and this has
been around for quite a long time. I think the
Keywis rugby league team for example, that was the best
part of a decade ago. Now with Bromwich and Kim
Procter that it does exit the system within what twelve

(01:01:18):
to twenty four hours or something, So players no compared
to hangover more for performance.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
It's just google and he said three days to a week.
The reason I was asking Nick was because basically what
you're talking about, I mean, dud brace Will has been
playing cricket now for donkeys years. So what we're about here, Yeah,
what we're talking about and let's remember it as illegal,
but what we are talking about is that you cannot
do these drugs recreationally for the duration of your career
because if we find it in your system and you

(01:01:44):
did it on a Friday night, you are going to
You're going to be in trouble, regardless of whether it
actually affects your performance. Right, yeah, yeah, that's that's life. Okay. Now, Matt,
I know that you're hugely into tennis. So how do
you feel about Nadal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Of an Era?

Speaker 25 (01:02:00):
I mean one of the greatest players, one of the
greatest three players that the world has ever seen. He
had an incredible career. I saw twelve of his fourteen
French Open ones in Paris, so it really does you know,
he warns me warm my heart whenever I watched him play.
The greatest competitor I ever saw, So he will go
down I think is the greatest competitor in tennis, well,
you can say, I don't know if you can say

(01:02:21):
he's the greatest tennis player ever. The reason I wouldn't
agree with him being the greatest ever he won fourteen
it was twenty two slams on one surface. So in
terms of the all court game, you'd have to say,
you know, SIMI statistically Djokovic and in terms of the
style of play the way he played Federer for me,
probably still ahead of him in terms of the greatest
of all time, but right up there in the conversation
amazing athlete.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
What's he going to do now?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Nick?

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
I heard that he's opening pickleball courts or something like that.

Speaker 15 (01:02:47):
You know, whatever he likes.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Of course, he's got his foundations, he's got his academies,
you know, as Matt says, he'll go down as one
of the greats. And I mean, you've sink of the
last few years as well has been I've been agonizing
rarely to see him, you know, put what all that
stress that he's put over and through his body and
his knees and so on over the last fifteen or
so years, sort of catch up with him.

Speaker 9 (01:03:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
I think he spoke before this Davis Cup lost this
week about saying he could have gone around another year,
but he doesn't need that for his ego in terms
of some farewell tour, and I think that's an excellent
decision for me. Anyways, someone who grew up with Nadal,
Federer and Djokovic, you don't want to see your heroes
kind of going out, bowing out and losing in the
first round of the ASP Classic in Auckland. So yeah,

(01:03:32):
Kurt Austin Nadell, it's one of my favorite athletes of
all time, the.

Speaker 25 (01:03:36):
Most humble athlete. Heither the most humble athlete in sport.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
I think sound like it a sounds like there is
not a bit of ego in that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Hey, thank you so much. You guys, enjoy your week
in a sport. That's Nick Beauley and Matt Browner huddle
this evening ate away from six.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Red or blue, Trump or Harris who will win the
battleground states. The latest on the US election is Heather
duple c Allen drive with One News.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Let's get connected these talks. It'd be.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Five away from six, Heather. We are harder on our
all Blacks captains than we are on our politicians. That's
actually a fair comment. I mean, it's not even an
All Blacks captain. By the way, if you're talking about
Ethan DeGroot, he's an All Blacks nobody even knows what
he does, or he's just one of them's, do you
know what I mean? He's not one of the superstars
of the All Blacks. No disrespect to Ethan, but we
haven't mentioned Ethan de Groot as a name on the

(01:04:27):
show as many times as we had since he did
something naughty about four weeks ago. Anyway, he does something
naughty and he misses out on three weeks of work,
doesn't he three weeks of work? Willie j calls David
s a liar in Parliament and he just gets kicked
out for the rest of the day. Then he comes
back again. So yeah too. Right now, listen, if you
haven't watched After the Party with Robin Malcolm yet, this

(01:04:51):
may be your cue to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Back in the day, women.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Weren't allowed to talk about anything, and that's what made
us kind of victims.

Speaker 19 (01:04:57):
A lot of women make false accusations that complain joy
us at men's lives.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
How do you know they're inoson?

Speaker 9 (01:05:04):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
The show has just premiered on TV in the UK
and the critics cannot stop raving about it. The Guardian
has given it five stars, glowing praise for Robin Malcolm.
It's a bravura performance from the very beginning, continues with
glowing praise for Robin Malcolm, surely the performance of the year,
and it then ends with glowing praise for Robin Malcolm.
What a role, what an actor, what a performance? So

(01:05:26):
that's not bad Five stars from the Telegraph. Robin Malcolm
deserves a bafter. Writing for The Telegraph, Anita Singh says
the best TV performance of the year is by an
actor most British viewers won't recognize KIWI production that most
won't see. Actor is Robin Malcolm in After the Party.
If Kate wins Little Sarah Lancashire played this role even
half as well. That have bafters all sewn up? Five

(01:05:46):
stars from Iron News. The best KIWI drama since Top
of the Lake. Both a twisty and atmospheric, both have
plots spun around ugly pasts rearing up in the present.
Both star actors Robin Malcolm and Peter Mullen. The Times
Sour Pusses only gave it all stars beautifully controlled, but
said the opening sequence was it was the best opening
six minutes to a drama series I have seen and
sometime thanks to both the scorching performance in great dialogue.

(01:06:09):
So what a good day to be Robin Malcolm and
go and watch after the party Now listen. Slightly inappropriate.
Slightly inappropriate. So I'm sorry, but have you looked at
any of the photos of one direction from Liam Payne's funeral.
The reason I'm raising this with you is because I
looked at it and I was like, what's Elton John
doing there? And I was like, oh, sure, that's not

(01:06:31):
Elton John. That's Neil Niall Horn, who's thirty one, and
Elton John is like seventy five. He looks like Elton John,
got the helmet hair, he's got a little chubby face
going on, it's got a little round glasses. If you
go and have a look and tell me I'm wrong,
and you're gonna get cross to me because you're like, look,
it's a funeral. You shouldn't be saying things like it,
and I shouldn't, but I did have a lot and

(01:06:53):
let me know, news till to be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
We're business and that means the Insight the Business hour.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
We're the header dup to c Ellen and my hr
on News Dogs be.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Stephen and coming up for the next hours. Ujenping is
pitching himself as the good guy for the global economy.
We have a chat to Peter Lewis about that when
he's with us. In half an hour's time, Barry Soper
will wrap the political week that was, and Gavin Gray
out of the UK as well. At seven past six. Now,
as we know, the International Criminal Court has issued a
warrant for the arrest of Israeli Prime Minister Bingham and
Nettan Yahoo. Now this means that if Netanya who sets

(01:07:31):
foot in any of the one hundred and twenty four
countries that are signatory's to the ICC, and that includes us,
the authorities are expected to arrest him and hand him
over to the court for trial. Israel, which is not
a signatory to the ICC, has condemned the decision. Now. TRUSSA.
Dunworth is an associate professor at Auckland University. Hey trusseer, Hi,
Heather Trusse. He's not going to get arrested, is he?

Speaker 19 (01:07:54):
He may well get arrested, It depends on where he goes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
So if he stays in Israel not a signatory, he's okay.
If he goes to the US, he's okay. Presumably, Actually
what happens when he got quite interested to know what
happens if he goes to any of the European countries
who as signatories but are supplying ams, are they necessarily
going to hand him over.

Speaker 19 (01:08:18):
Well, we don't know whether they're going to hand him
over or not, but they're certainly legally obliged to hand
him over. And a number of the states already today
the European states have started making official statements about what
their position would be, and some of them are very

(01:08:39):
clear that they will surrender, like the Netherlands has said
it will surrender, and the Netherlands supply components of the
f thirty five's to Israel, but they have specifically said
that they would surrender. To my knowledge, Germany hasn't yet
made a statement. France has said that it is mindful

(01:09:01):
of its obligations and it will act in line with
the Rome Statute, but when specifically asked would its surrender,
it said that that was a legally complex question, and
the UK stated that it respected its obligations under the
Rome Statute. But when it was again specifically asked what

(01:09:25):
would they do if a netting now who was in
their territory, it didn't. It fudged the answer basically, So
we just don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Trust, So this is a big move for the ICC
because I mean, is it fair to say it's actually
put its own reputation on the line here.

Speaker 19 (01:09:44):
Well, I don't see how this is a matter for
the ICC's reputation.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Well, okay, let me outline it to you. So, first
of all, this is the first time it's issued, as
far as I can see, issued a warrant for the
arrest of a democratically elected leader. Secondly, this is a
a leader supported by Western allies, which is pretty unusual.
And then thirdly, if it gets to the point that
he actually turns up in any of these countries, for example,

(01:10:09):
the UK and France and they don't hand him over,
that's really undermining of the ICC, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:10:15):
Well, you've raised a number of questions. We might say
that it has enhanced the ICC's reputation that it has
been prepared to issue an arrest warrant for someone where
there is ample evidence to have a reasonable belief that
there would be a conviction if he came to trial.

(01:10:35):
And yet he is a Western ally because over the
last couple of decades, the criticism of the Court has
been that it just goes after the African states and
heads of states from the global South, and that it
is in fact biased in that way. So in one

(01:10:58):
sense we could say that this might and have set
the record straight.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Do you think, though, that it risks maybe losing membership? No,
you don't think anybody's going to say this is to
a bridge too far. We support this guy, We're gonna
pull out.

Speaker 19 (01:11:14):
No, who would do that?

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 19 (01:11:17):
States except for the United States hasn't joined it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Yes, no, okay, does he have any appeal rights here?

Speaker 19 (01:11:25):
He will have an appeal right, So if he is convicted,
he will have appeal rights he has had in terms
of the issuing. You know, because it was six months
ago that the prosecutor of the Court applied to the
chambers or to the judges for an issue of an

(01:11:46):
arrest warrant and Israel exercised its right to There weren't appeals,
but there were challenges to the court's authority and in
issuing these arrest warrants. The court has also said, we
don't accept your arguments that this case is inadmissible, and

(01:12:08):
we don't accept your arguments that we don't have jurisdiction.
So they're not exactly appeal rights because they are challenges
prior to the decision, But of course if there was
a trial and a conviction, there would be appeal rights
in the usual way.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Trussell, listen, fascinating topic. Thank you so much for giving
us your thoughts on that. That's trusted done with, Associate
professor at the University of Auckland's Faculty of Law. I've
got to get you across pretty It's an article in
the Telegraph today, pretty interesting signs that Zelenski is preparing
himself to basically give up in the face of Donald
Trump and various other things. Anyway, i'll run you through

(01:12:45):
that before this half hours through. Got a little bit
of good economic news coming out of the top brass
and the private companies for you. They're feeling far more confident.
These are the directors, far more confident about the economic
prospects than they were a year ago. The Institute of
Directors in ASB done a survey together and they found
that fifty two percent of board members and private companies
now expect the economy to improve in the next year.

(01:13:07):
Now that's compared to twenty eight percent last year. So
twenty eight percent, slightly more than a quarter thought yeah,
it'll get better in the next year, and now it's
more than half think it's going to get better in
the next year. Last year, fifty six percent actually thought
that the economy was going to get worse, and they
proved to be right, didn't they. Anyway, are the things
that are still worrying them the most cost of living

(01:13:27):
and inflation forty two percent of them, Challenges to the
global economy thirty three percent of them, and then low
productivity third biggest economic concern thirty two percent of directors.
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Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Side together do for clan.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Whether I'm not sure who won massback mass Back, I'm
not sure who won that bet, but I actually think
there was more to it than just Ethan Degroom being
a little late. And you think so because they were like, ah,
he missed a deadline, and then when you're like, oh,
yeah it was there, Booze involved. Now we're not talking
about it anymore. So, yeah, there was more to it
than just missing a deadline, wasn't there seventeen past six?
Now let's wrap the political week. That was with our

(01:14:57):
senior political correspondent, Barry Soap. But welcome back Barry.

Speaker 16 (01:15:00):
Hello again, Heather.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Listen, where are we at with the punishment that's going
to be meted out to these guys who did the
hucke in parliament?

Speaker 16 (01:15:05):
Well, unfortunately the Speaker was absent yesterday Jerry Brownlee. I'm
not sure why, but he wasn't there. So we'll now
have to wait until December the tenth, which is when
Parliament resumes, So it's now adjourned until then. But there's
little doubt in my mind that there will be at
least three Malori MPs who'll be facing Maori Party Party MPs. Yes,

(01:15:30):
who'll be facing privileges. I don't think there's been a
complaint laid.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Against pen Oh that sucks for her.

Speaker 16 (01:15:39):
Well, you know, well he try.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
To get in on their party. Everybody's forgotten about Penny.

Speaker 16 (01:15:47):
I mean, they may may do, but as I understand it,
it's just the Maldi MPs, the Maray Party MP's that
they'll be facing privileges. But the problem with the Privileges Committee, Heather,
is that, as we all know, it ends up with
a slap on the wrist of the wet bus team
because the rules that well, the penalties that are open

(01:16:07):
to the speaker are fairly limited and they are fairly light.
But they are looking at them again. They have a
committee that looks at these things, and they'll be coming
up with I imagine better punishments or more severe punishments
like docking pay or docking the amount of money that's
paid to keep political parties going in the House. So

(01:16:32):
I think that you'll see that will come into place,
probably maybe next.

Speaker 4 (01:16:37):
Year, won't have an effect. And I'll tell you why,
because if you're the Mariori party and you are able
to look at look at the attention that they've got,
on the support that they've got for this, right, Yeah,
all you need is call for donations to supplement what
you've lost. Problem solved.

Speaker 16 (01:16:50):
Yeah no, And that's the problem, isn't it. If you
live in a democracy, you might want to punish, but
they're elected to Parliament whether we like it or not.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
I I mentioned earlier in the program that Audrey Young's
written a really good piece actually on why the Hikoy
was so important, and it was in her argument is
simply because it's introduced a whole new generation to the
idea of Mary's sovereignty and got them really worked up
about it. And so it basically makes sure that that
battle continues for decades to come. That is really important,

(01:17:19):
isn't it.

Speaker 16 (01:17:19):
Well it is. And like I've said that the Maori
Party are the winners and all of this because this
was a political event. Make no mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Is she saying beyond the Maori Party what this is
as energized as a whole new group of people to
keep that fight going.

Speaker 16 (01:17:34):
Oh it does. Whether we like the fight is another matter.
I'd prefer to have a reason debate, which is now
what David Seymour will get with the bill going to
a Select committee for the next six months. Now, there's
some rules as I talked about earlier surrounding the select
committee process, but nevertheless there will be a lot of

(01:17:58):
and varying a lot of and varying opinions are given
to that select committee, and I hope it's a good,
intelligent debate. This notion that David Seymour is going to
in some way change the treaty is patently absurd.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
To be fair, that is basically a lie.

Speaker 16 (01:18:19):
Well, of course it is, and it's been propagated by
the man who obviously fancies you, Heather will he Jacks
my boyfriend, Yeah, your boyfriend, Willy Jackson. And you know,
he says the treaties under attack. The treaty is going
to be changed, while of course it's not going to
be changed. The principles have been part of the legislative
process now for many years and they can probably continue

(01:18:43):
to be unless somebody like the New Zealand Force have
tried in the pastor oral.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
I mean, the important part here is that the treaty
was written in eighteen forty and the principles were literally
dreamt up in nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, right, by the
government in all of our lifetimes. Right, Hey, the new
police commissioner, how good is this guy?

Speaker 16 (01:19:03):
Well, you know, look he came across to me like
an old time cop, and I think that's what people
basically want in their police commissioner. Andrew cost a very.

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Nice man, but a social worker.

Speaker 16 (01:19:17):
More of us. Well, he's in the right job now,
is that social agency? So I think Richard Chambers is
like some of the old commissioners that I used to
know when I was in Wellington, and they were pretty
good old cops. And I think Richard Chambers seems to
be like that, and of course he had to hit

(01:19:37):
the ground running with the gang patches coming into effect
almost immediately, and three minutes after midnight the first arrest
was made. And you know, the gangs might be trenchant
in their view that they'll be able to keep their patches,
but I'll tell you what it seems. The cops have
now been geared up, and I've had so many meetings

(01:19:59):
around the country with around the country with gangs that
the gangs should be no doubt that they mean business totally.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Barry, thanks very much, Barry Soper, Senior political correspondent. Rapping
the political week that was listen, I said I would
get to Matthew Houston's column on Chris Luxen. So let's
do it next, shall we. And I'd say this with
a grimace on my face, because who it's tough one
six twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all
on the Business Hour with Hither Duplicy Allen and my
HR the HR Solutions for Busy SMEs, newstalksb I've got
to get you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
Up to date with what Meghan and Harry have been
up too. Lately, You're gonna want to know this stuff
because especially if you love Megan and Harry. Okay, Sex
twenty five, Here we go, embrace yourself. It's brutal. Christopher
Luxen is completely out of his depth. Matthew Houton, so
this is his peace In the Herald today, he says,
I'll tell you what I mean. I never read anything
more brutal about about Christopher Luxon. Prime Minister is too

(01:20:56):
arrogant to resign, at least before the election. But those
who I've argued that the former corporate bureaucrat lacks the
attributes required for successful national leadership have been proven right.
Like David Brent, as in Ricky Gervasis David Brent, Christopher
Luxen has an unfounded sense of his own personal charm
while also running down his colleagues behind their backs. His
lack of understanding of the National Party means that he

(01:21:19):
means he fails to understand that everything that he says
about another MP soon gets back to them. However, his
lack of understanding of New Zealand, partly but not solely
because he lived abroad, is more serious. He says Luxon,
and this is just a taste of the stuff that
Houson says about Luxon, Luckson appeared to demonstrate little, if
any curiosity about the country he wanted to lead. His

(01:21:40):
record at in New Zealand was mixed. His language resembles
a cheap self help book if he genuinely believes that
our long term fiscal and health crises can be solved
through cost cutting. In Wellington alone, he is as enumerate
as he seems illiterate. Clark and Key had the knowledge, intelligence,
and personal attributes to charter Middle Path between China and
the US and shows no sign of it. So obviously

(01:22:02):
Houghton doesn't love Luxon. Then he says, then he has
a crack at quite a big crack at Luxeon for
the way that he's handled the Treaty Principal's bill, and
importantly says he had been warned about this by his
own advisors and senior MPs. Then he says he could
at least appreciate his cabinet ministers and not some kind
of Ilford second eleven captained by Sir Donald Bradman, but

(01:22:24):
at least half of them would be doing his job
much better than he is. Now I know I'm getting
text saying Matthew Howsion is bitter and look back Matthew.
Matthew can be very very very very harsh. But if
I was Lux and I'd be worried about this for
a couple of reasons. The first reason is clearly people
are talking, and those people are either MPs or staff

(01:22:48):
or both. But people are talking, and I'm hearing some
of this stuff as well. That the running down of
people behind the backs and stuff, I'm hearing that as well.
So people are talking and it's getting to Matthew Housion.
And also nobody talked about John Key like this, So
people are unhappy and I think he should be a
little bit concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Headline's next, everything from SMS to the big corporates, The
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Speaker 26 (01:23:19):
Babe for the first time, babies, fum.

Speaker 22 (01:23:32):
Your blood.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Heither who the labor is any better.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Than Chris Lux.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
And here there has Matthew Howson ever been that critical
of Chippy. I just need to know if he's got
biased or not here that Matthew Houston should ask Chippy
to lead the country and luxe and to the resigned,
would all be doing so much better, have a great
education system and no dairy farms. Thanks for that. Now,
Okay Netflix?

Speaker 14 (01:23:56):
Is it on Netflix?

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Is that on Netflix?

Speaker 21 (01:23:58):
Are?

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:59):
Okay? Netflix has it? And Mesa because remember they got
paid all of that money by Netflix. They've actually managed
to come through with something for Netflix again, and it's
not every day that they managed to do that. They've
been making a documentary series. Now, don't roll your eyes
just yet, because it's none of this do good bs
that we've got used to with them. This is more
keeping up with the Kardashians. The new show is called
Polo and it's absolutely about Harry's favorite sport, polo, and

(01:24:21):
the trailer is out. We ed, we breathe, We sleep Polo.

Speaker 6 (01:24:28):
For sure, it's glamorous.

Speaker 14 (01:24:30):
It's a sexy sport, too dirty, sweaty boys riding.

Speaker 4 (01:24:37):
I don't know if you have any polo players in
your life, but I'll tell you what, there's nobody as
naughty as a bunch of polo players. Now. Meghan and
Harry have both been named as executive producers for the
series five episodes. It shows Polo team's intense rivalries and
the lead up to the US Open Polo Championship. And
so if you're enter this kind of drama, this one's
for you. My father, here's the team motive and coaches us.

Speaker 10 (01:24:58):
Sometimes I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Like to hear criticized.

Speaker 24 (01:25:00):
Timmy Goodnight do many handoffs didn't more well, the transitions
were not drive.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Much to this.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
December ten, Netflix gither dup c Ellen right with us.
Right now, we've got Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent.

Speaker 27 (01:25:14):
Hey, Peter, Good evening header.

Speaker 4 (01:25:16):
Peter. How was Hong Kong reacting to these democracy leaders
being jailed?

Speaker 28 (01:25:21):
Well, it depends who you ask, really, I mean, obviously
the governments and the government supporters say that the Hong
Kong forty seven, there was actually forty five of them
convicted out of the forty seven, we're trying to subvert
Hong Kong and overthrow the governments. Now, what they will
say and what their supporters will say is it wasn't

(01:25:42):
overthrowing the governments. It was trying to win the election.
And remember what their crime was. It was basically they
held a primary election to decide which of their candidates
was best place to stand in the district's elections, and
then whoever won that primary would then gone on to
be the handidate in those elections. And obviously they were

(01:26:03):
trying to win that election and ultimately replace the governments.
There was a real chance at the time that they
could have won enough seats to certainly control the Ledge Code. Now,
the thing about that is that actually under the Hong
Kong Basic Law, which affected Hong Kong's constitution that came
into effect when China handed it back to when England

(01:26:26):
handed Britain handed it back to China, this was perfectly legal.
These types of elections have been held in the past.
The Basic Law stipulates that a party that wins the
election and forced the government to have to resign by
not approving its budget, and that's exactly what they intended

(01:26:47):
to do. But nevertheless they were found guilty of serversion.
And the other notable thing about it is the way
the trial was held. The forty seven were denied the
right to a trial by jury, which would be the
normal case here in Hong Kong, and instead three judges
heard the case. Now, those three judges were hand picked

(01:27:11):
by the Hong Kong Chief Executive, John Lee s and
his predecessor were handpicked by the governments in effect, and
also they were denied some of the representation that they wanted,
the legal representation that they wanted. And that's one of
the features of the Jimmy Lai case that's going on

(01:27:32):
at the moment. He was denied the opportunity to have
his choice of barrister represent him who was from the overseas,
because he was seen as a national security risk. So
a lot of worrying things about this case overall.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Yeah, totally, Hey tell me something about usingping. So is
he pitching himself as kind of like the good guy
in the world at the moment.

Speaker 28 (01:27:53):
Absolutely, He's been in South America. He was at the
APEX summit of the g twenty summach in in Rio.
Here's an effect presenting himself as the champion of globalization
and free trade. He's sort of stepping into the void
that the US has left or will leave when Donald
Trump arrives in office. And he's been basically talking up

(01:28:17):
the advantages of free trade. He's saying that globalism can't
be unwound. It's absolutely essential to stop the fragmentation of
the world economy. Now, part of this, of course, is
because of China's economy, which is struggling at the moment,
and what it doesn't want. The thing that Chiging Ping
most fears is that if Donald Trump imposes tariffs on

(01:28:40):
exports of Chinese goods, other nations might follow suits, particularly
in emerging markets. And there are some countries in South America,
like Chile, like Brazil that have also imposed tariffs on
Chinese goods because they're worried about the flood of imports there. Well,
that's a trend that Chiging Pig absolutely doesn't want to
see because it will be disastrous for China.

Speaker 12 (01:29:05):
So he is a.

Speaker 28 (01:29:06):
Meeting with all sorts of leaders in South America, presenting
himself as a free trade person and wants the global
sealth countries in the global selth to support him in
that arrangement.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
And what about this business with the North Korean troops
in Ukraine, I mean or not in Ukraine rather than
Russia fighting Ukraine. This must be incredibly uncomfortable for China,
isn't it?

Speaker 28 (01:29:30):
It is, and is saying absolutely nothing about it. He
was asked several times in press conferences while he was
in Rio what his stance was on that, and has
said nothing. Official about it, and Chinese state media have
said nothing about it either in their press releases. But nevertheless,

(01:29:50):
it's an issue that is very uncomfortable for Jugen Ping.
What he did say was that he told the presidents
of South career that things have changed on the Korean peninsula,
but he said that Beijing. He said Beijing will continue
to play a constructive role in its own way to

(01:30:10):
end the conflict. Now he didn't say quite what its
own way was, and certainly most people didn't envisage that,
including North Korean troops being in Ukraine. But the problem
for him is is this is an issue where in
contrast to what he's trying to do on trade, he
has been very much sidelined. This is all down really
to the US and EU and NATO in terms of

(01:30:33):
what happens here next. Has really very little that President
g can do to influence the outcome. But it does
appear he has less sway over North Korea. I mean,
many people thought that, you know, he will be able
to dissuade came to women from doing this doesn't appear
to have been the case, and it seems to be
Russia that has more sway over North Korea. At the moments,

(01:30:56):
which is certainly something that President g won't appreci but
he's not saying in public what is thought so on
this and what is doing behind the scenes.

Speaker 4 (01:31:05):
Yeah, fascinating. Hey, thanks very much, Peter, I really appreciate it.
Peter Lewis Asia Business Correspondent will speak to you and
in a week listen, let's go to the UK find
out what they are making of this business with the
ICC wanting to arrest ben Yamin Netanyahu seventeen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
The Business Hour with Heather duplic Eland and my HR
the HR solution for busy smys on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
Somebody, by the way agreed with me about Nile Horen
looking like Elton John, so I'm not alone. Apparently he
just needs to not smile and put the little glasses
on and it's spitting image. Fourteen away from seven and
Gavin Gray, UK Correspondence with US. Gavin Allo, I'll have
to check that out, Okay, Gavin. It's slightly awkward because
you are looking at funeral photos when you do this,

(01:31:51):
so I'm I'm it's inappropriate what we're discussing, but go
and have a look and then you know, and you
could see Elton John aged thirty one basically now on
the ICC business with Binyamin Ninyahu. What is the UK's position.
Are they going to arist him or not?

Speaker 27 (01:32:09):
Well, that's what's being asked of government ministers. Europe has
come out in very very strong support of the arrest warrants.
The EU Foreign Policy Chief Josette Burrell said, it's not
a political decision that's been made. It should be respected
and implemented by the entire block of Europe. Now in practice,

(01:32:29):
of course, that means that if Benjamin Etna who steps
onto the soil of the European Bloc, he should be arrested,
as would be his former defense minister, and if he's
still alive the military command of Hamas.

Speaker 10 (01:32:42):
So Europe coming out very.

Speaker 27 (01:32:44):
Strongly in support of this. Let's not forget the ICC.
The International Criminal Court is based in the Hague in
the Netherlands, and Israel and the US are not one
of the two one of the one hundred and twenty
four member states, so they don't have to do that,
they don't have to recognize it. But certainly of the
one hundred and twenty four member states. It would appear that, yes,

(01:33:06):
they will be arrested as they touch down there.

Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
Right, But I mean you speak of Europe doing it,
but then France has said it's legally complex and that
they haven't committed to arresting. So there seems to be
a little bit of wavering within the block.

Speaker 12 (01:33:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:33:19):
Oh, as is always heather with the block of the
European Union. A little bit of disagreements, but certainly I
think you know that that is a binding thing, that
it's all together in one block. So yeah, I'm not
quite sure how France are going to get out of it.
But each country will feel very uncomfortable about this, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (01:33:37):
And then what do they do, Jobby? Do they continue that?
Do they say, you know, in one breath, yep, Okay, fine,
we're going to arrest the guy if he lands here.
But then on the other hand they continue to supply
him with the arms to commit these alleged crimes.

Speaker 27 (01:33:50):
Yeah, and that's been the argument all along, some big
supplies here in the UK to Israel for arms. However,
having said that, a drop in the ocean of all
the combined sales of arms from the EU and the
UK when you compare it to the amount of arms
going from America.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
So although it's.

Speaker 27 (01:34:09):
Quite a big trade, it's absolutely minute in comparison to
what that trade is from America.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
Hey, so it turns out you guys came really really
close to running out of your gowns and your personal
protective equipment and stuff during COVID, didn't you.

Speaker 27 (01:34:23):
Yes, So some awkward exchanges for the former Minister for
Health Matt Hancock here during the COVID pandemic inquiry, And
in that evidence he was giving evidence for the third
time about the impact of the healthcare systems, and he
said there was never a quote national shortage of ppe

(01:34:45):
personal protective equipment for healthcare workers, but in some cases,
he said, they did run out and it was awful. Indeed,
there were rumors and photos of some nurses having to
wear plastic bin bags early in the COVID crime and
Matt Hancock said we need to learn the lessons of
what went wrong and put in place better stock bars.

(01:35:06):
But he said some hospitals came within six or seven
hours of running out of gowns. Of course, what he's
also trying to say is that is why the procurement
system was so rapid, I would say, chaotics. So with
the critics he would say, well, we had to act quickly,
which I can quite understand. These things always easy in hindsight,

(01:35:28):
of course, Heather. But yes, certainly a lot of money
was paid for some stock that was never used and
has since been either buried or burned.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Yeah, interesting, Kevin. Listen, how you guys reacting to this
town in Canada that's refewed The elected members are refusing
to pledge allegiance to the king.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
Yeah, quite interesting.

Speaker 27 (01:35:47):
This It isn't actually the first time this has happened
in Canada. In a couple of years back, a French
speaking province of Quebec pass legislation that ended the requirement
to have elective officials take the oath on the monarchy.
But nevertheless, this is a very interesting thing. So this
is the one of the former gold rush towns, and
that's in Yukon territory. This is Dawson City and in

(01:36:11):
that area lots of First Nation peoples were moved on
for the gold rush. And one of the newly elected
people is from the First Nations and is saying I
feel uncomfortable was the word used? He said, uncomfortable In
taking an allegiance to the royals when so much has
been done to my people. Now others are in solidarity

(01:36:36):
with him, and so consequently a whole new intake of
counselors refusing to swear the oath, and under Yukon law,
they must swear the oath within forty days of their election.
The clock is ticking. They've only got till the ninth
of December. After that, well, I think they have to
go for a whole new vote again. And at the
moment they are stuck in an impast.

Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Oh, Kevin, thank you very much, appreciate it. Look after yourself,
enjoy your weekend. That's Kevin UK correspondent. So I meant
to tell you about Zelenski. So Zelensky has changed his
language around how hard he's going to go with Russia
and Putin, and it sounds a little bit like he
is giving up. On Wednesday, he gave an interview to
Fox News and admitted that they cannot take Crimea back

(01:37:19):
by force. He's also like he's had some subtle shifts.
That's quite a big thing, by the way, right, He's
had some subtle shifts in his language. So in terms
of on the subject of having to give up territory
to Putin. Last month, he said Russia must lose the
war against Ukraine. This does not mean a freeze in fighting.
It does not mean any trade in Ukraine's sovereignty or territory.

(01:37:44):
So it's basically like, no, we're not giving up any
land this month. Ukraine cannot legally acknowledge any occupied territory
of Ukraine as Russian, so it's sort of like we
can't really do it. So a whole bunch of other
examples as well. This month, when the war was going
to end, or rather two years ago and when the
war was going to end, he said, we fight and
will continue to fight for the sake of the main

(01:38:06):
word victory. But this month he said it is certain
that the war will end sooner with the policies of
the team that will now lead the White House. On Crimea,
he said in July last year, we cannot imagine Ukraine
without Crimea. This month he said it's still not a
fact that we can bring it back with arms in
our hands. We understand that Crimea can be brought back diplomatically.

(01:38:27):
So he's giving up a wee bit, and apparently the
reason for that is not only that he's acknowledging that
Donald Trump is going to force him to give up,
but also fifty two percent of people in Ukraine told
the economists they just want to negotiate an end. They
just wanted over seven away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
Getting ready for a new administration in the US. What
will be the impact.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
It's the Business Hour with Heather Duplas Allen and the
HR Solution for busy SMEs, news talks and.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
Be fur away from seven. Listen. I don't know if
you're aware of this. Laura the producer the German has
brought it, drew it to my attention. There are all
of these athletes in the world who are doing the
Trump dance at the moment. You know the Trump dance
I'm talking about right, this is the one when he
puts on YMCA which is hard out his jams. He's
got that going and he starts doing that thing where

(01:39:15):
he sort of like he's got his arms rolled tight
into his body and he fist pumps forward and back
and forward and back. You've got to do it kind
of in sync with the knees as well, so it's
a whole body movement anyway, because it is it because
I think it's because we've seen so much of it.
It just is a thing now, as in, like, watch
so much of him doing it, so now the guys
in the NFL are doing it, and people who are

(01:39:35):
in the boxing cage and stuff. When when they start
doing it as well, the NFL has been asked if
it's okay for people to do this because it's Donald
Trump aligned. They say it's fine, You're allowed to do it.

Speaker 10 (01:39:45):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:39:45):
Next time you go to a party and you're like,
what move should I bust Trump?

Speaker 10 (01:39:48):
Dance and Frank new music?

Speaker 29 (01:39:51):
Well newish music from Franz Ferdinand to play us out
of these guys. Yeah, yeah, that's right. This The song
is called night or Day and it's off their upcoming
sixth album, Human Fear, which is coming out in January.
So of course I looked into it and I'm like,
where did these guys you've been go? And turns out
let didn't go anywhere. They've just been releasing albums for
all the years since they take Me Out the Game
a big hit and we just haven't been noticing. But
there you go, they're putting out another one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
Oh good, enjoy this is your Saturday listening. You can
Trump dance to that. See your Monday News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
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