Full Show Podcast: 24 June 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Questions, answers, facts, analysis, The drive show you trust for
the full picture. Heather du Plessy Drive with One New
Zealand let's get connected news talks that'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey get afternoon, Welcome to the show coming out today.
GPS and nurses are going to be able to diagnose
and treat ADHD. Lots of people be stoked about that.
We'll talk to the GPS. Is there or is there
not a ceasefire between Israel and Iran? Will go to
Jeffrey miller Gy, a political analyst. And also have you
seen the flash new public toilets in Wellington? Let me
tell you about them.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Good for Heather duplicy Alan.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Right, so this little thing is back again. A group
of Hagley College students want to rename Rolliston abb in
christ Church because they've discovered that the man that the
road is named after, one William Rolston, was a central
figure leading to the invasion of Padihaka in the eighteen eighties,
and they think that by continuing to name the road
after him, we are celebrating him and what he did.

(00:58):
And this idea has Land did well with at least
one counselor, Tyler Harrison Hunt, who says we actually do
need to be more informed about William Rolliston.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I agree with her? Generally, I agree with that you
got to know your history. So let me tell you
about William Rolliston. Yep. He was Native minister at the time,
so he was instrumental in the invasion of Paddihuker, which
is one of the blights on our historical record. Women
were raped, people were starved, they were kicked off their land.
It has led to decades and decades and generations of sadness.

(01:27):
William Rolliston also helped to establish the Canterbury Museum and
Canterbury College. I haven't been able to verify it, but
it seems to me he may have also helped to
establish Lincoln University. He supported universal education, which every single
one of us is now the beneficiary of. He also
advocated for women's education. Some would say that he was

(01:48):
a wokester of his time. Now, the point that I'm
trying to make by telling you this is that no
one has an unblemished record. You can see William Roliston
as a good guy or as a bad guy, depending
on where you're from, or you could just be mature
about it and see him as a complex guy who
played a role good and bad for the country. And
if we're going to strip historical names from complex figures,

(02:08):
then we are going to end up having to strip
tat Opaaha's name from the arena in Portadur Because to
some he was a military genius. He's also the man
who wrote the most famous hucker in the world, come
out there. But he was also a terrible villain who
murdered his way down the South Island in the Lower
North Island to do what he wanted to do, and
he basically forced women into marriages as concubines. So yeah,

(02:29):
our history is shocking, but we wouldn't know our history
if we didn't remember these names. And part of the
reason that we remember these names is because they're written
on our street signs and our landmarks.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Hever do see out nine two.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Nine two is the text number. Standard text fees apply.
We're going to speak to that councilor actually about a
half past five now, Shane Jones is drafting a bill
to force the country's largest ewi into a single treaty settlement.
North Island Ewing Napui is made up of a whole
bunch of different Harpoo and lots of them want to
settle individually. Shane was on the My costing breakfast this morning.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Reached the point where we can no longer afford this
hamster wheel politics. Segnapo he has descended into our bills.
Will ensure that Hapu sovereignty never gets to mention undivided sovereignty,
undivided citizenship is what I believe.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
In Okata is one of the Napao Petera Tippany is
a leader of Natahina and with us now Hipaa that
happy new year and and to you, thank you very much.
What do you think of this bill?

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Well, let's just say that Napihina, who's made up of
nine hpoo's a collective that is affiliated to Napuhi. There
are a number of collectives. We've all been making great progress.
We're working with the Minister, David Goldsmith has two chief
negotiators and teams and so we are making very good progress.

(03:50):
Here is the minister. That's who we we have conversations
with and that's how we want to keep it because
we don't want to be talking to the Minister or
anybody else that matter, through the media.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Okay, but are you going to accept what Shane Jones
is going to do if he does it.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
No, let's just say, exactly one hundred and eighty years ago,
a battle was fought nearby, exactly one hundred and eighty
years ago by the way, where a large military British
force camped and then subsequently attacked a local par which
is a battle long forgotten in most minds. And unfortunately

(04:27):
they charged the par and within five to seven minutes
over one hundred British soldiers were lying either dead or
dying on the field. A colonial government was trying to
bring the Huppo to Heal one hundred and eighty years ago.
No colonial government then or modern government now or bring
the nap Hupoo to Heal.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Okay, So what if he does this?

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Though?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
What if Shane Jones does it and says that it's
only going to take basically one group to sign this
on behalf of everybody? There are some there are some
Huppoo who want to sign this a So is it
possible that you get undermined by them?

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Look, as I say, we're very progressive and proactive people,
and there may be a feeling throughout the country, through
through our citizens that we don't want to move forward.
We do and we are and we're moving forward with
this government and doing well. That somebody has come in
from society and given an opinion about a future bill

(05:24):
is only confusing things and it's very unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Is there a problem with it? Is that do you
guys want to and agree to disagree clause in there
where you basically do not accept that sovereignty was seeded very.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Much So we're no different to any other EWI I
would imagine around the country.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, all right, listen, Peter, I really appreciate your time.
Thank you very much. Good luck with it. It's Peter Tippany,
who's a NAIR leader. A second major bank I don't know,
Auckland to my peeps in Auckland, and thoughts and prayers
because Auckland's having a tough time with the houses and
this is not going to make it any better. A

(06:06):
second major bank has now lowered its expectations for house
prices this year, so am Z has already done it
and BNZ has now just done it. Today. They thought
that house prices were going to go up by seven
percent this year. Now they think maximum four percent, maybe
even as low as only two percent increase. That would
mean that if it does that, if it goes for

(06:26):
four percent, I think at the higher end, it means
that the prices would at the end of this year
be roughly where they were in mid twenty twenty. So
we're just catching up to where we were four and
a half years ago, five and a half years ago.
So far this year now it is four and a
half actually maths. So far this year, house prices across
the country have only gone up half a percentage points.

(06:47):
So yeah, everybody, everybody, nobody who owns a home will
love that, but particularly auckland Is because you know, they're
obsessed with their houses. Fourteen past four, It's the.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Heather do Busy Alan Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
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Speaker 2 (07:04):
Heather. According to The New York Times, I run has
confirmed the cease fire with Israel after the Trump announcement. Tom,
thank you, We're gonna We're going to get you across
this shortly right now though. Seventeen past four and Darcy
Watergrave Sports Talk Hoosters with Mellow Dust. Hello, dull.

Speaker 7 (07:22):
A high high ankle sprain.

Speaker 8 (07:24):
He got he got hit dropped by Scott Sorenson over
the weekend and wasn't really noticed at the time, but
then they've wound back over the tape, so he's been
a's out for a couple of weeks. This is Sorenson
for doing that and dullin there's a change that three
might be five. They're not entirely sure, but he doesn't

(07:44):
need surgery, so that's a real positive. Well, he's had
a dog of a year when it comes to injury.
First ten rounds out well that brokenrist, broken hand, and
comes back in again, slowly working his way back into form,
although he has had some complaints saying to him about
constantly cutting back on the inn again and not looking

(08:06):
after his outside But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Did you stay on the field after the injury?

Speaker 8 (08:11):
I don't think so, so he went on, No, no,
he wouldn't have better keep playing. I'm just trying to
remember when he saw it and he was lying there
flating the ground looking terrible.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Because I can't remember him going off. She's look at
the pair of us. Are we old? Are we old? Darcy?
I think we are. I think we're over the hell?
Ye can remember anyway? There just crowd crowdsources information did
Dellan were tennis of Lisbie.

Speaker 7 (08:37):
The game.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Both of us was.

Speaker 8 (08:38):
At that stage in the game. But I've chosen to
forget most of that game because it was awful and
I'm fully concentrating on want the Crusaders to because they
made my Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Hey what about lu Lusun? Is this important?

Speaker 8 (08:51):
She got injured and she went off the park. No,
she didn't. She did so well. Remember last year and
we're when she got through the final eight and she
was like the star Tiano's greatest. She's played at tennis
down there at the Little Wee Tennis Club. All this
time she's managed to win and she beat this woman

(09:12):
who's the wildom sixteen, Daria Cousin Kena. She was the
number one seed for the Eastbourne Open and plainly the
defending champion and first round see her later. Lilu did
it in three. So she's not had the best year
so far. But whether that sets her up for Wimbledon, well,

(09:33):
I suppose we'll see. She was quarter finalist, nasty and
just didn't quite get this. She's ranked forty six in
the world so stats out. She's had a seven wins
seventeen loss season so far. So twenty twenty five hasn't
smiled upon her?

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Does they strapped him up on the field? He tried,
says Ian Corus says he tried to stay on and
run it off, but then he was taken off and
says he was helped off. Gregg says he was replaced
by the mighty mart Now how long? How how long
have they got in the round robin before we get
to the lake finals?

Speaker 6 (10:06):
E bit?

Speaker 8 (10:09):
Over halfway through?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
So is he going to be there for the finals? Ebit?

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Well, they seem to think it'll be three to five weeks,
but he should be back for that, for the for
the playoffs. Okay, yeah, sorry, and I'm just grimacing. I
feel sorry for him. It's an awful year.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So fast doesn't look happy at the moment?

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Does he thank you for a number of reasons.

Speaker 8 (10:29):
But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
What have you got on the show this evening?

Speaker 8 (10:33):
Will we'll be talking to no hot hand Hope them
as I like to call him. Who's the half back
who's come out of after winning a title for the Crusaders,
got his all black role and he'll got one test
all black?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
So good for him?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Are we joining a chat?

Speaker 8 (10:48):
I want to talk about the issues in no wingers. Two.
That's it in that squad. Okay, two, I appreciate it,
doesn't he zeel and have this history of amazing wingers.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Too, So why the derth? Yeah, fairpoint.

Speaker 8 (11:04):
Anyway, we'll talk about that as.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Well, Darcie. We'll be taking seven o'clock sports stalk coast
right now. It's four twenty one.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Moving the big stories of the day forward, Alwyn, it's
Heather Duperic on drive with One New Zealand. Let's get
connected the news talks.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That'd be a yeah. So listen, this is where we're
at with the ceasefire. Okay, So there's a bit of
confusion today. Trump said that Israel and Iran had agreed
to a complete and total ceasefire, and he was pretty
excited about that, but they're not long Thereafter, the Iranian
foreign minister said, hmm, that's not true. There's no agreement,
but if Israel stops, then we'll stop through. If Israel
stops the missiles, then we'll stop the missiles and we'll

(11:41):
make a decision later today, which actually sounded like he
was just being a bit of a dick, and actually
they may have agreed to the ceasefire, and now the
New York Times yes is carrying the story that Israel
that Iran has announced the ceasefire, but the status still
remains unclear. There's no comment from Israel at the moment,
but fingers crossed. We're at this point because it is,
as we've discussed, pretty serious. Now we need to talk

(12:04):
about what's going on Wellington. It's full twenty four. Have
you seen the toilets? So near a day goes by
where Wellington you can control its spending. And once again
we are in the situation where we're looking at Wellington
and going what.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
What did you do?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Okay? You did you? Okay? So what Wellington has done
is Wellington and this is going back a little bit.
We'll start with the backstory. You know Pigeon Park. It's
between Dixon and Manor Street, and it's where all the
undesirables have been hanging out. They've been coming out of
their little emergency accommodations and various other places and they've

(12:42):
been hanging out at Pigeon Park. And they've just made
Pigeon Park a little bit stink And nobody wants to
go to Pigeon Park anymore. So what the council decided
they needed to do was knock down the toilets and
Pigeon Park and then hopefully all the undesirables will leave.
I don't think it's worked, but whatever. So then so
then and they're finite wisdom, They're like, oh, we still
need toilets, let's build them across the road. Oh that well,

(13:04):
I don't feel like that's solving the problem, but anyway,
so they did. So they built the toilets just there
in front of les Mill's on Taranaki Street. But of
course Wellington cannot just build some toilets, can it. They
have to do something flash with the toilets, and they did.
They have built Let me just quote you James Roberts,
Wellington City Council's Chief operating officer. He said, the building

(13:25):
with its ribbed timber facade looks great during the day
and has transformed into a special light show at night,
because that's what you need when you're doing yuiwis as
a light show outside. So what they've done is it's
all that architectural stuff where they do the vertical slats
and then behind the vertical slats of all this rainbow
colors and cool stuff going on. Do you know how
it to cost for six toilets? Two point three million dollars.

(13:46):
That's a lot of money for toilets. I did a
bit of research for you because I was like, I
can't just go out there and say that's a lot
of money if I can't back that up. Dunedin, around
about five years ago said that a new public toilet.
Each new public toilet could cost a hundred thousand dollars.
Now let's adjust for inflation and we're talking about around
about one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. So if
you're building six public toilets, you're looking at what's that

(14:08):
seven hundred, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. These guys
blew two point three million dollars. Why I can't explain it,
and surely neither can they. But the lesson in this
is that it doesn't matter how much you shame Wellington
City Council for bad spending. They don't care. Remember how
we talked about the bike crack. We were like, how

(14:28):
can you spend that much money on a bike crack?
How can you spend that much money on a cycle
way and then rip it up and spend more money
and then rip it up and spend more. How can
you do that? And they were like, we don't care.
Let's make some toilets that light up at night. That's
what they've done. Anyway, This takes us, of course to
the conversation about rate caps, because they seem like they
should have a rate cap on them if you like

(14:50):
that idea. So we're going to talk about that later
on in the show as well. And Jordan Williams is
the guy who's responsible for the rate cap idea, will
be with us on the huddle before we go to
the headlines, which is coming up. Really shit, we have
got to talk about ADHD. So doctors and nurse practitioners
are now going to be able to GPS your GP
and your nurse there is may be able to look

(15:10):
at you and go, yes, you've got ADHD and then
prescribe you the medication that you need. This is wonderful
because the waiting list for ADHD is enormous. Right, people
can't get their diagnosis and stuff. Trouble is, of course,
there are questions now about whether we're going to be
over diagnosing and handing out too much restlance. So we'll
talk about that with a GP after five headlines.

Speaker 9 (15:29):
Next the.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Recamping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's
hither duplessy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get
connected news talks.

Speaker 10 (15:46):
That'd be.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Here that you can build an actual mansion for two
point three million dollars if you make such a good
point where you could build a very very very nice
house with the pool, like some outdoor pergolas, you know,
maybe double story, double glazing. You know, maybe you could
have a butler's pantry. You could and you could have
underground party. You could have like parking under the house.

(16:16):
You could get that for two million, or you could
get six toilets up to you. Anyway, we're gonna talk
to Diane Calvert about that. She's honestly Wellington City Council
Jeff Bezos, She'll be with us quarter passed by by
the way, Jeff Bezos has reportedly been forced to move
his Venice wedding party. Now I don't know whether that
means they're moving the party of the like, It's very
unclear what he's moved. It's all just reports at the moment.

(16:37):
Has he moved the actual wedding party, like the party
to celebrate the wedding, or has he moved the party
of people coming to the way you see where I'm going.
I don't know, but anyway, what's happened is the locals
we're gonna put the inflatable crocodiles into the canals to
stop the guests arriving. So they were like, we're gonna
have to do something about this, so they've moved things around.
Do you know how much money he speaking of? Like
he and Wellington City Council would get on really well

(16:57):
with each other because he is spending six million American
dollars on his wedding, one million dollars for flowers and decoration,
three million dollars for wedding planners, two million dollars for
the venue higher, one million dollars on catering, one and
a half million dollars for missus Bezos's dresses and outfits,
and then fifteen thousand euros for the costs of each

(17:18):
of the little transporting things that the guests are taking
around the event. As I say, head, look at those
toilets and be like it's a bargain.

Speaker 11 (17:24):
I tell you what if the wedding plan charges three
million dollars. If I could not find my seat by myself,
I would be very disappointed. I'd expect a lot of planning.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
You make a good point. And also when the wedding planner,
at three million dollars is more is around about the
same as the cost of the venue high around the catering,
I think we've got a problem.

Speaker 11 (17:41):
I mean, people had better not wait in line all day.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
I think everything should happen forthwith stat be the best
day ever. Murray Olds are standing by twenty three away
from five.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's the world wires on news talks. It'd be drive.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Donald Trump says Israel and Iran have agreed to a ceasefire.
Iran's government says it will stop its attacks on Israel
if Israel does the same thing. First.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
Jd.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Vance was delighted when he spoke to Fox News about it.

Speaker 13 (18:04):
When I left the White House, I thought that we
might be able to get it across the finish line.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Before this broadcast.

Speaker 13 (18:08):
And it looks like the President has been able to
do that. I mean, look, he's been working the phones constantly,
frankly before the Twelve Day War started, but certainly over
the past twelve days.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
But a former US Deputy National Security advisor, says c
spires are pretty tricky to implement.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
They're always complicated. The troops on the ground don't get
the word.

Speaker 14 (18:25):
There's always a lighter shooting, but it usually sorts itself out.

Speaker 10 (18:28):
Let's hope this one days.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Over the Tasman. The Aussie government has expressed its support
for the US attacks on Iran, but some critics have
accused Albow of taking too long to actually decide this.
Here's how he responded to that accusation.

Speaker 15 (18:39):
What my government does is acting in an orderly, coherent way,
and we were very clear for some period of time
that Iran could not be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And finally, some British Airways flight prove had a bit
of a sleepless night after a mix up with their accommodation.
They were meant to be staying at a four star
hotel in Milan, but they were accidentally pooked booked into
a pay by the hour six motel which has a
similar name. Krue got the next day off work because
they didn't get much sleep.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
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for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Murray Old's Australia corresponds.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
With us Now, ho, muz, very good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Okay, so please tell me, muz that we are getting
to the point where the jury is going to go out.

Speaker 16 (19:30):
Yes, yes, yes. This is the case of the accused
alleged triple murderer, Aaron Patterson, and the allegation, of course
that she denies that she deliberately killed three of her
in laws and other relatives and one survived. So after
an eight week trial, there was a lot for the judge,

(19:50):
mister Justice Bill to go through in instructing the jury.
I've struggled trying to sum it up for you, to
be honest, there's lots to get through. Look the key
point it seems to me as a non lawyer, I
never did any legal units at university at all. But
he's basically said to the jury, you must be sure

(20:11):
about the evidence that you're weighing up right, how credible
were witnesses. You must use what you believe to be
true and disregard the rest of it. He's spoken about
the evidence, for example, of Aaron Patterson's children different to
it than mother's and you know you put the accused
on the stand.

Speaker 9 (20:28):
Was that a good movie.

Speaker 16 (20:28):
He said, it was her decision was not required to
give evidence in her own behalf. If the jury agrees
with her and supports the idea that her evidence was true,
you must acquit. If the jury believes that the prosecution
has failed to make the case to the standard required
and that is beyond reasonable doubt, the jury must also equit.

(20:52):
And then he's gone through a long list of I mean,
a real shopping list if you like heather of evidence.
I mean clear, you need a very big brain to
be a Supreme Court judge. And he has certainly shamed
me this afternoon. I've just got a headache just trying
to follow it. But imagine being in that jury box
after all this time, all this time, and I must

(21:13):
be thinking, bluddy, how will you shut up and let
us go start deliberate.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Wasn't it last week that you I'm sure it was
like last Tuesday, if not the thursday before that you
and I was saying, oh, it's going to wrap up, buddy,
end of this week, and here we are, we're still
we're still waiting for so I mean, yeah, anyway, well,
hopefully it's worth it so much.

Speaker 16 (21:32):
To take in I mean, with the plates different colors?
Was her plate a different color to the deadly plates?
I mean, there's so much for the jury.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I really feel like you could whip through that summary
quite fast. Don't you think really getting their money is
worth you? Anyway? Listen, tell me what's going on with
the flights because of the conflict.

Speaker 16 (21:51):
Okay, well you got Quantus and Virgin operating. I think
daily flights are certainly in Quantas's case, I think Virgin
as well, which is operating in conjunction with Cutter Airways.
So there were flights to and from London and Sydney
and various spots across Australia, Brisbane, Melbourne, Perth as well.
Now some flights, for example, this morning the Perth to

(22:14):
London flight for Quantus was diverted to Singapore when Iran
targeted that American air base and Cutter the flight Perth
to Paris was turned back by Quantus back to Western Australia.
But this puzzles me here and my geography might not
be too good, but Sydney to London, London Sydney via

(22:36):
Singapore will are operating normally, as are flights from Perth
to Rome and Rome to Perth and Perth to London.
So there's a couple of flights to Doha from Sydney
and Brisbane this afternoon heading up to Doha on Cutter
Airways the courtesy of Virgin and those flights are going
ahead as well last time I checked in the newsroom.
Those flights are proceeding, but obviously delays will be applied

(23:01):
here because you're gonna they want to make one hundred
and one percent sure of their space is clear. Until that,
of course, both airlines saying you're out of your mind.
I think we're going to risk airline passengers and crew
and of course they're very expensive aircraft to rights.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It's good to talk to you, always is. We'll talk
to you hopefully next time we talk to you that
that jury has gone out. That's mury Old's Australia correspondent
here that for two point five million, not only could
you build a mansion, but you could have six toilets
in it. Got in new and I venture to say, Steve,
you could probably have a disco light wolf if you
wanted to, and you would still you would still have
a house all around that stuff, not like Wellington anyway. Listen,

(23:39):
some stupid things if if gas, IF gas related stories
and stupidity around it will get your wound up. I've
got something to tell you about that shortly, but I
have to before the end of this half hour. But
just big shout out because there's big musical news. David
Whole Evans has finally become an Irish citizen. Now this
is a big deal because David Hoole Evans is also

(24:00):
known as the Edge from U two and I didn't
realize this, but the man is sixty three and has
lived for sixty two years in Ireland and not being
an Irish citizen. He was born in England. Anyway, he says,
bit tardy with the paperwork, finally got it filed, finally
being given what he thought he had this whole time.
Ete politics is next sixteen away from five.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Jason Wall's news dogs. Here'd be political editors with us
A Jason, good afternoon. So did the Greens and Winston
have a bit of a spat? Did they?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
No?

Speaker 17 (24:33):
They held hands and they hugged and said that they
were the best. Of course they had a spat. It
wouldn't be Parliament with out those two going loggerheads. It
was quite an interesting one because it started with a
ministerial statement that Winston Peters gave as Foreign Minister, and
Winston started the proceedings where it was. It was quite pointed,
I thought, have a listen, we.

Speaker 14 (24:51):
Prefer diplomacy to moral outrage. Indeed, ours is a foreign
Polosi up letting all the facts, hearing all the Peters
and applying a careful, reasonable, call headed approach to the situation,
not knee jerk reaction and simplistic moral posturing. Those in
this House who rush to condemn, will call out one

(25:12):
actor or other, or who demand the government to do
the same, should pause to reflect on whether they are
seeking to understand and influence what's going on or simply
virtue signal about it.

Speaker 17 (25:24):
Now, if you're wondering who he's talking about, it didn't
take too long for that mystery to be solved in
the House.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
The Green Paddy condemns the United States unlawful and aggressive
strikes on Iran, and we call on the government to
do the same.

Speaker 17 (25:38):
So with a topic like this, these two, as I said,
were always going to clash, and that's exactly what happened,
and it didn't take long for Winston to respond to
the way that Madame mc davison was speaking to him
in some of those questions.

Speaker 14 (25:50):
But I have to say, when it comes to the
proxies for Iran that have committed so much terrorism in
the loss of thousands of lives, harmas his bela, the
hoodies with respect to Iran, when it comes to that,
the Greens have been not a syllable lot of sound,
not a lot of murmur, no continnation whatsoever.

Speaker 17 (26:12):
And so the Green leadership didn't like that, so they
went back and forth, back and forth, back and forth,
before Jerry Browne had to step in.

Speaker 14 (26:19):
Yes, the Iran's people have been under forty years of
deaths right on with Supena that what the track, It
takes five seconds to examine it.

Speaker 16 (26:27):
Neither party here is well, that's speak sort of the
chorum that you'd expect out of past size. But you're
not going to both sides to standing orders speakers rolling.

Speaker 7 (26:36):
This one fifty one.

Speaker 17 (26:38):
So we have the government calling for a ceasefire between
Iran and Israel and Jerry Browne calling for a ceasefire
between the Greens and New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
First, has Chloe been throwing shade at Chris Luxon's travel agenda.

Speaker 17 (26:50):
She has I have a listened to what she called
it this morning.

Speaker 18 (26:53):
He him as presently offshore, swandering.

Speaker 17 (26:55):
Around, swanning around. She reckons, this is the Prime Minister
who's at NATO at the moment. You know, if there
was a place to be on planet Earth right now,
I reckon, it would probably be NATO if you're a
global if you're a world leader. Before that, he was
with our biggest trading partners, China, meeting at President shi Jingping,
just swatting around old Chris lux In. Yeah, I've been

(27:15):
on dozens of these trips with the Prime ministers. They're
not sworn around. They've got quite a packed agenda. And
I'll tell you what. Nikola Willis wasn't having a bar
of her comments.

Speaker 19 (27:24):
I think they're naive because it is absolutely essential for
New Zealanders that we are well represented on the world
stage and that involves person to person relationships with leaders.

Speaker 17 (27:34):
Defense Minister Judith Collins wasn't impressed either.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Well, I thank the Lord.

Speaker 20 (27:39):
I'm not responsible for the Greens and their utterances, but honestly,
the Prime Minister is absolutely flat out doing the same
sort of work at NATO and going to visit our
memorials there.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
I guess that's what the Greens do when they're sees.

Speaker 17 (27:55):
So no swaning around for these government ministers. Not today.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
What was it that Chloe would rather he was doing?

Speaker 17 (28:01):
I don't know, maybe meander, maybe strut. I don't know
which way that she thinks she should be walking.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh my goodness, I thank you very much, Jason, appreciate it.
Jason Wall's News newstalksb's political editor ten away from five,
putting the.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast, the.

Speaker 21 (28:17):
First all black squad for twenty five is our coach?
Scott Robertson is back with us? How much depth have
we got in this country? How big could a squad
be of people who are genuine all blacks?

Speaker 22 (28:27):
So?

Speaker 10 (28:28):
Do you need four deep at all backs in every
position over a four year period? Can you name your normal?
Can someone's going to get a band? So who's next
of us? Not them? Name the team? Then you name
the next one that's coming in. And then you're always doing.
Robson's going to tight Cartne and all of a sudden,
who's next to you? Still going all deep. So what's that?
You know? Four fifteens at six times. Yeah, there's sixty
one number College and.

Speaker 21 (28:50):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
a Vida News Talk zb.

Speaker 12 (28:56):
Either.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
If that lady is found not guilty of murder, there
will be a lot of people looking for mushrooms. I
love that.

Speaker 12 (29:02):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's what we're Oh is that? How many people want
to kill some people that they know? They're like, oh,
she got away with it. Oh do you think that's
gonna happen?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Lord?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
What a dim view of humanity? Stix away from five?
Now this is the gas thing. Okay. So the City
of Sydney Council, as you can imagine, Sydney's big place,
so there are lots of little councils in there. The
City of Sydney Council has banned gas appliances for all
new homes and businesses starting in January. How mental is
that you build yourself a new home, you build yourself

(29:33):
a new new business. You need a kitchen in there.
No gas stove, no gas oven, no gas heater, no
gas cooler. It's all got to be electricity. Whether you
like it or not. You still have your gas hot
water systems or thank god, how generous of them. But
the rest of it you're not allowed. And it's of
course because of the climate crisis, because you know, Sydney's
got to fix the climate crisis. As you well know.
This is the seventh New South Wales Council to do

(29:56):
to do this right, this is nuts and you know
it's not so because this happened today and on the
very day that it happened, Victoria did the opposite. Victoria
has already done this and they've changed their mind now
and they're not going to false homeowners. When a homeowner
has a broken down gas appliance, the rule had been
you've got to replace it with electricity. They now not

(30:16):
going to do that anymore. They realize that that doesn't work.
But Sydney is going to go ahead with it. So anyway,
you know, for one hot minute, just be grateful for
once you don't live in Australia because otherwise you'll be
dealing with that kind of stupid stuff. I've got enough
of that to deal with now. Can I just give
a shout out really quickly to our emergency services because
this is the police and the fire guys because you

(30:37):
don't know this until you have kids, but they are
wonderful to children. So the other day I was saying,
the three year old made us, keeps making our cycle
them down to the local news to look at the
fire is really into the fire trucks, so that's the
fun for their afternoon. Can we go down to the supermarket?
Look just they're looking at a burned out supermarket. Anyway,
I said this on the radio, and then Chris from

(30:59):
mac Corral, who's there with the fire station, got in
touched and said, listen, do you want to bring him
up and we'll show him around, let him see what
a fire truck looks like up close. To say yes,
So we're gonna do that on Monday. So then yesterday
the father thought that the dude has had a bit
of a tough time of late. It has been a
bit on the naughty side, a bit of strictness coming

(31:20):
at him. So father thought maybe he needs a little treat,
so took him to the police station, which actually sounds
like he's in more trouble, but no, took him to
the police station because he loves policemen like he plays
every single day. He pretends he's a police officer. So
they went and they all they wanted to do was
just sit there in the offer, just you know, in
the front, but there with all the other criminals just
hanging around there, just wanting to see some police officers.

(31:42):
They go. The police officers came out, took the three
year old out to the police car, let him sit inside,
let him put the lights and sirens on, gave him
a little police car. He climbed into my bed this
morning and he said to me, Mama, did you know
I was in a police car yesterday? So I just
want you to know because on a show like this,
where we deal with often the bad news, we can

(32:05):
often dwell for a lot of the time on the
bad things that happen that involve the police or the
fire brigade or something like that. But in the ranks
of those big agencies are wonderful people who always wave
at kids or let them sit in the car and
press the lights and stuff. And it made a boy's
day yesterday. So thank you to the Fire Service and

(32:25):
the police for just being so awesome to kids. We're
going to do the ADHD next with the GP, just
find out if we're at risk of over prescribing. If
we're giving permission to GPS and nurse practitioners to do this,
news talks, that'd.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Be through the spins to find the real story. Soring.

(33:02):
It's hither two for clan drive with one New Zealand.
Let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Be good afternoon. So there is confusion this afternoon over
whether we have a ceasefire between Israel and Iran or not.
Donald Trump made the claim earlier that both countries had agreed,
but then Iran's foreign minister earlier said there was no agreement.
Jeffrey Miller is a geopolitical relations expert from Victoria University
with US. Now, Hey, Jeffrey, good evening here. So do
we have one or not?

Speaker 9 (33:29):
I think we do now as of four o'clock New
Zealand time. It is all very very strange. I've been
following it all throughout the day and there have been
claims and counterclaims and you just can't work out exactly
what's going on. But apparently there's now according to Donald Trump,
you've got a twelve hour window so until four am
New Zealand time tomorrow, in which Israel will be allowed

(33:50):
to strike Iran. But Iran will not be able to
strike that and if that holds, then the cease file
will a full seas file will be in Plas from
four am tomorrow morning. It's all very strange. Why would
those be good and hopefully, hopefully we do have a
cease fire?

Speaker 22 (34:03):
Now?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Finally, why would that? Why would those be the terms
that Israel can fire but not the other way?

Speaker 9 (34:09):
Goodness no, goodness no. Is a very strange ceasefire, and
Israel still has not even officially announced or confirmed the
ceasefire is in place. It is very difficult to make
out what's going on. But look, let's take Donald Trumps
at his word and we can all watch and see
whether the ceasefire does hold.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Does this mean that Donald Trump's gamble in bombing those
three sites has paid off?

Speaker 9 (34:31):
I don't think so. Look, I think this has been
madness over the last two weeks. I think it's been
incredibly foolish, and what we've seen from both Israel and
the United States, I think none of this is conducive
to Israel's future security, safety, prosperity. And I say that
as a strong supporter of Israel's right to exist and
right to prosper I just don't think you can get

(34:53):
here with a get there with a military solution. I
think this will only harden Around's desire to build a
nuclear weapon in the future. And if you think they're
really going to take this lying down and just give
up on their ambitions to have a nuclear weapon, I
think you've got another thing coming. You know, they've had
dozens of nuclear scientists now killed, They've had the top
military commands taken out, the top military leadership taken out,

(35:16):
hundreds of ordinary civilians apparently been killed, and many others
in Iran. So look, I don't know why you think
that this is going to make Israel sorry of make
Iran more amenable to Israel or the United States. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
What was the alternative?

Speaker 9 (35:33):
The alternative was to continue with the negotiations. Look, Donald
Trump started with the negotiations himself, with Steve Whitcoff leading
five rounds of negotiations. There have been in musket that
went best six round and then Israel came over the
top and bombed I ran. Then last week on Friday,
the Iranian foreign minister was there with the European foreign
ministers in Geneva, and then the US came over the

(35:55):
top and bombed Iran And it was all just a
great one, the great deception, the idea that Donald Trump
was taking two weeks it was none of that. Behind
the scenes, he was scheming with Bena Minette and know
Who to join the war.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yes, Jeffrey, I mean we can all see that one
side has behaved, you know, in an unbecoming fashion here.
But you would if if Iran had agreed to something,
would you really have believed them?

Speaker 9 (36:21):
Well, I'll put it to you, why would Iran believe
anything that the US says? Now? After how the US.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Is I'm simply asking the question because it seems to
me that it doesn't matter which path you pick, they
end up with a nuke.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Look, let's stop the madness. Look we saw what happened
today with Iran's striking cuta one of the golf states.
It's just never happened before. We haven't had one of
the golf states targeted quite in this way by Iran,
and it's unprecedented. And these are countries, by the way,
the golf states that New Zeven gets on very well with.
They're our friends in many ways. And Christopher Luxon was

(36:57):
up there in the United Arab Emirates. In January we
signed two trade deals with the Gulf States. As I say,
this is all all. Manhattan is here and we absolutely
need to get back to peace and get back to dialogue, diplomacy,
d escalation, and I think New Zealand really can play
a small but important part in that, just given the
connections that New Zealand has into the Gulf region. And

(37:19):
we shouldn't forget the Katari Prime Minister Shank Muhammad Thani.
He played a key role in brokering this ceasefire. Apparently
he was in Wellington last August visiting in New Zealand.
So Christopher Luxon has probably got his phone number in
his phone. He should use that.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Hey, I really appreciate your expertise, Jeffrey, Thanks so much,
Jeffrey Miller, geopolitical relations expert.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Heather duplusy Ellen.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Look good news if you or someone in your life
has ADHD or you think they may have ADHD but
haven't been able to get diagnosed. From February next year,
GPS and in some cases nurses will be able to
diagnose and treat adults and children with ADHD. Until now,
only psychiatrists could do this, but the wait time to
get to one of them could have been as long
as a year in some cases. Darren Bill is the
chairpert of ADHD New Zealand with us. Hey Darren, Hi,

(38:03):
Hey Dan, I'm very well. Thank you. Are you confident
that GPS and nurse practitioners have the skill set to
be able to diagnose and treat?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yes, we are.

Speaker 23 (38:12):
And I might note though that both GPS and nurse
practitioners have to be trained and working with an area
of practice, which means that the GP is not interested,
for example, in ADHD, they won't be able to help.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Do you think that there's a danger of over diagnosis?

Speaker 23 (38:30):
No, I don't think so. First of all, the underdiagnosis
in New Zealand is significant, we're half that of Australia.
And second of all, if you have the trained medical
professionals and they're working with guidelines, it should mean that
we have the correct level of diagnosis.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Do you worry because at the moment we already have
a bit of a crunch on ADHD medication if I mean,
it sounds terrible saying this, but if we start diagnosing
more and more people and handing out the medication, do
we not end up with more of a problem here.

Speaker 23 (39:02):
Yeah, look, there is that possibility for that, but there's
sort of two counter arguments. Of the first is the
medication shortage, so hopefully that's going to be resolved in
the next six months. Nighting or so far make have
been amazing in their approach to our community of this.
And the second thing is, you know, when it comes
to first a fair, there's not going to be a

(39:23):
whole stack of trained GPS in nurse practitioners available. They
have to go through the training, they have to work
with the Royal Colleges to work that availability out and
capability and capacity is going to be key and it
might take one to two years to work through.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Brilliant. Hey, thank you very much, Darren, appreciate your time.
That's Darren Bull, chairperson of ADHD New Zealand. Ever du Allen,
we now know who's Zolenskap will put a blazer on
for King Charles. So he met King Charles at Windsor
Castle for lunch. And what is remarkable about it is
that for the first time in whatever or just recently
or just a very long time, he turned up in
a black blazer, black trousers, but but still had I

(40:06):
have a look at it. You'll see what I mean,
has still has the combat look about it, doesn't it
Like you have never seen a jacket look more combati
than that, particularly, you know what I mean, you've never
seen a blazer somehow cross the line between being sort
of like, hey, I'm going to dinner with the king.
I'm going to lunch with the king. But if there's
some shooting, this suddenly turns into a combat jacket. It

(40:26):
has that vibe about it. And also he rocked up
with the combat bots just in case the war finds him.
Why would he break brand? Do you know what I mean?
Just to remind us, Megger turned up though in a
jacket fourteen past. Hey, if you haven't yet bought that
BYD but you want to, you need to get a
wriggle on because the BYD field Day's offer, which is
BYD BYD BYD. Field Day's five thousand dollars, your way

(40:49):
is only gonna last for the month the June. Right,
there's only a few more days left. Now, what house
works is if you purchase yourself a new BYD the Dolphin,
the Atto three, the Seal, the Sea Lion six, the
Sea Lion seven, or my personal favorite, the ute the
Shark Sacks. If you do that in the last few
days of June, you will get yourself five thousand dollars
back and you can spend it however you want. Upgrade
your vehicle, personalize your vehicle with some cool accessories, put

(41:11):
it towards the on road costs or the purchase price whatever.
You still get all the warranty in, the roadside assistance
and all that stuff as well. And there's plenty there,
and especially you need to get your wriggle on if
you want the ute, because there is limited stock of
the Shark six. They've got some more coming in, but
getting quick because even that's not going to last. And
this is a cool ute. By the way, a customer reported,
you would have heard me saying this the other day

(41:32):
that they drove sixteen three hundred ks, averaging two litters
per one hundred ks. Total fuel cost four hundred and
thirty dollars. What other car can do that? And for
every vehicle sold in June, BYD will donate one hundred
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dot Co, dot nz ever do for c Ellens hehether,

(41:54):
there's no guarantee of a correct diagnosis for ADHD, whether
it's from a specialist or a GP. Because my son
was misdiagnosed by a specialist and he was put on medication,
he was bouncing off the wall. So fair point, Jude,
thank you for that. It's coming up nineteen past five.
Now Wellington City Council's done it again, spending the big dollars.
They have bought themselves a new toilet block on Taranaki
Street just outside the Les Mills there two point three

(42:16):
million dollars. Diane Calvert is a Wellington City councilor and
with me now high Diane high, Heather, Diane, two point
three million dollars can build you a really nice two
story house with some car parking and you know, maybe
six toilets inside it. So why how can you guys
justify this?

Speaker 24 (42:35):
Oh look, I don't know, Heather. I mean it's a
bit like half five hundred and sixty three k bi
crack and spending one hundred one point four million dollars
to move a bus stop one hundred meters. So I mean,
this is the culture in the in the organization. It
just has to change. I mean, toilets are really important,
you know in our CBD, and there's no doubt about that.

(42:55):
But did we need to take three years building them
and you know, over two million dollars US and then
light them up like a glowing monument? I'm not convinced.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, whose idea was the light show on the outside
of the tut.

Speaker 24 (43:09):
I have no idea, but you know, I think I'm
going to light something up. We could pick something better
than toilets signed. Look, I don't mean that's this will
be an operational matter. And so look, you know, from
you know, from an elected member perspective, we obviously wanted

(43:29):
to see toilets there. We were obviously concerned in the
amount of time it took to put the to you know,
to put replacement toilets in. And remember we're building brand
new tourlets also around the corner, in in our new
town hall and our new library.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
You don't know who signed off on this.

Speaker 24 (43:49):
Look, it will be it will be somebody on our
executive team, but I don't know exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Who James is.

Speaker 24 (44:01):
This chief operating officer could well be. But but yeah, look,
I just don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Because Isn't this the problem with what is going on
in a place like Wellington is just some unelected guy
somewhere is going yep, two point three, absolutely fine, and
no one can hold anyone accountable. That's the problem, isn't it.

Speaker 24 (44:20):
Well, look at it should be the elected members that
should be holding the council. I mean that the officers
to account for something like this. I mean obviously we've
just become aware of the custom and that and look,
there will be questions as just like the five hundred
and sixty three k bikrack, which we're still trying to understand,
still trying to get a report out about what went wrong. Yeah,

(44:42):
but I'm hoping with a new chief executive, we're going
to see a change in culture.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
I appreciate your time, Diane, very very much. Diane Calvert,
Wellington City Council. Listen, we've got to talk about councils,
to talk about right caps next, and then I'm going
to talk to the huddle just to try to understand
how this kind of thing happens, something where the council
so goes yep, we need to do that thing, and
then somebody else runs the budget and it just gets
ridiculous because we've got to figure out this stuff, don't

(45:06):
we that that seems to be the number of the
problem five twenty.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Two informed Inside into Today's issues. It's hither duplicy elan
drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
News talk said been Hey, the christ you city councilor
who who seems reasonably open to the idea of changing
the name of Roliston av is going to be with
us after the half past. It's twenty four past right now. Now, look,
I can see that this idea of forcing rate caps
on councils is taking off. So can I just express
my concerns about this early on? I personally love the
idea of stopping counsels from continually jacking up what they

(45:41):
charge us, but I worry that this is not going
to fix the problem the situation, because it's not the
actual problem, is it. The actual problem is that counsels
spend our money on stupid stuff. Allah the light up
toilets in Wellington, even when they've got no money. Allah, Wellington,
it's got no money, but they keep on doing this stuff.
So even if you stop them having much money because

(46:01):
you put on a rate cap, they will continue to
spend the money on the wrong things. Alah, Wellington. So
what will then happen if you put the rate cap
on is that after years and years and years and
years of deferred capital expenditure, the pipes will break down
because Wellington hasn't spent money on them, and the roads
will be in disrepair because Wellington hasn't spent money on them,
and the buildings will need earthquake upgrades because Wellington hasn't
spent money on them. And then they will say, oh,

(46:23):
look at all the trouble we've got, we need more money,
And then some government run by somebody like Grant Robertson
will go, yeah, cool, we'll lift the rate cap and
they'll just make up for lost ground and go hell
for leather and jacket up. Or what they'll do is
for years and years and years and years, they will
just run everything on the credit card. And then they'll say, oh,
look it's a debt crisis. Oh we've got to pay
back our debt. We need more money, and some government
run by somebody like Grant Robertson will go, oh, yeah,

(46:45):
that's cool, let's lift the the rate cap, and then
off they go, and they'll they'll just make up for
lost ground, see what I mean. It'll make you feel
good about it in the short term, but they will
get you eventually because the problem is that they aren't
spending money properly, and that is actually what we need
to fix here now. I don't know how I think
getting rid of some of our councils, by canning the
regional councils, or canning the district councils, or canning the

(47:08):
local the city councils, I don't know. Getting rid of
some council somewhere may help to limit the costs, but
I'm not entirely sure even of that. Ultimately, I think
we just need smarter people on council and we need
to hold their feet to the fire. But as long
as you have numpties and council officials who are who
are shady and you're not watching them, a rate cap
will only delay the problem.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Heather Doopers.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
The al councils need those lords, don't they though?

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Jeez.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I mean, you'd start with Wellington City Council A just
to make it, because you just know that's the low
hanging fruit. You just start there anyway. Later, Stumping from
TikTok fridge cigarettes. So because the young kids at the
moment don't smoke cigarettes like we used to when we
were young and dumb, what they're doing is that they're
having fridge cigarettes. And a fridge cigarette is basically what

(47:54):
they're calling a crisp can of diet coke, which has
come straight out of the fridge. There's this has come
about from some sort of a techtok video. It's got
three and a half million views where someone says, the
woman says, overheard someone called diet coca fridge cigarette and
there's nothing been more true to me since. And the
caption was time for a crispy city in the summer.
So I'm telling you this because in equal parts TikTok

(48:17):
is stupid but also around you and you need to
know what the kids are talking about. So you are
welcome headlines.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Next on the iHeart app and in your car on
your drive home, it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one
New Zealand let's get connected news talk. Sa'd be.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Every right here from government about bringing unelected, unaccountable regional
and local council job for life bureaucrats to heal long
overdue bring it on asap. Well, Howard, if you feel
like that you are going to find it. You've got
high mind with Jordan Williams, who basically the guy who
started the rate caps campaign, and he's going to be
with us shortly on the huddle our standing by after six,
I'm going to tell you about a fantastic, fantastic good

(49:08):
news story business KII business doing incredibly well. And before
we get there we might have busted a minister just
telling a bit of it, a bit of a woo porky,
so we'll just deal with that before six A, just
just to casually just expose a bit of a porky
there before six stand by, it's twenty four away from.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Six, Heather Dupless hours.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
As I told you at the start of the show,
a group of Hagley College students want to rename Rolliston
ad in christ Church and they want to do this
because the man that the road is named for, William Rolston,
was a central figure leading to the devastating invasion of
Paddi Hukkah in Tartannuki in eighteen eighty one. Tyler Harrison
Hunt is a christ Church counselor for the Rickerton Wardhay Tyler,
Hey here, how are you? And well, thank you? Do

(49:47):
you agree with him? You need a name change?

Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah, I don't have a position one that Actually the
thing that I was actually most proud of was seeing
and come to the table, be brave and talk in
front of seventeen elected members about something they were passionate about.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Yeah, do you think do you think it's I can't
see it floating with christ Church Council. What do you think.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I think it's worth the conversation. That's the first step,
you know. Anything outside of that, we can't do anything
drastic obviously, and christ has got its own identity and
it's currently ever changing. So it's something that I really appreciated.
Then coming to the table with perpecually was something that
was so passionate about. Around the statues more than the
road names.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
How many studies we got.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
We've got quite a few actually, Captain Cook, Captain James
Cook's around there, Fitzgerald, Willie, Roliston's and Rolinson the air,
so there's quite a few hanging around and that adds
to the colonial heritage of christ Church. And after the
earthquakes we actually did lose a lot of that, so
i'd expect that the conversations would be a contentious one,

(50:50):
but also something that's actually really healthy to talk about.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
The fact that they have have learned the history, I
think is more probably actually proof of why we to
leave the name there, because if it wasn't that the
name was there, eyed out very much, that they would
would have connected the dots and realized house. You know
it kind of it makes you think about what the
sky has done and learn about what the sky has done.
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Yeah, I think so too, And I played devil was
dvocate and asking that exact question, and their answer back
to me was that while we acknowledged that the street
names and statues were named after these people, they weren't
wanting them to be seen as being celebrated for the
things that they did. Particularly they were talking about Rolliston
and Wakefield, of which a lot of Wellington and Nelson

(51:33):
is named after with the New Zealand Company. And for myself,
I descend from three tribes and Taranaki and Taranaki Tiatia
was one of them. My family were from White Tutter,
so that's a really close piece for me. And being
the only Maldi in council, obviously I had to question
them and see where they are.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Tyler, listen, it's good to talk to you. I really
appreciate it. Tyler Harrison Hunt, councilor for the ricketson Ward
and christ Church.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Reales Find You.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Or one of a guide as coming up twenty one
away from six and on the huddle we have Ali
Jones read pr and christ Church local board member and
Jordan Williams of the Taxpayers Union. Hell are you too, Hi,
Good evening, Ali? Do you want to change it?

Speaker 18 (52:13):
Nope?

Speaker 24 (52:13):
No, no, no.

Speaker 18 (52:15):
Tyler Welle does a good job. Lovely guy. Actually, But
you know what frustrates me about this is that they
use those words like you know, Tyler said that the
kids mentioned about celebrating people. I don't think we're celebrating
someone by putting their name on a street sign. We
are acknowledging them, we are noting them. They are part
of the history. And the other point too, is that

(52:36):
I understand that Rolliston didn't actually lead the attack on Pattihucker.
Yes he was part of the conversation leading up to it,
but someone else actually led that. Do we erase the history?
I mean He also set up the death Small Vanish
College out in Sumner here in christ Church. He was
also a key supporter of women's suffrage.

Speaker 24 (52:56):
So what do we do here?

Speaker 18 (52:57):
Do we throw the baby out with the bath water?
Or do we teach people New z On history in context?

Speaker 6 (53:01):
And we're all the there for us?

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Yeah, And I don't know about you, Jordan, but I
find often that history. I find I enjoy learning about
our history and then connected and going, oh, this is
a chap called Jenningham Wakefield. Oh that's why it's point Jenningham,
you know. And so actually those landmarks do help you
to learn it and realize the significance of these people,
you know.

Speaker 22 (53:20):
I mean history is actually can be quite dark, like
I mean, you know, and it's just a slippery So
I found at the Free Speech Union seven years ago
to fight against people, you know, that are alive being canceled.
Now it seems that the woke have now turned on
that if you did, you can be canceled.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
You know.

Speaker 22 (53:36):
We've got to get rid of this name, the cock Islands.
It's just it's so offensive Churchill Lane. But the worst
is down near Stuart Island, the Pit Islands. Yeah, no,
that is just I think the younger, it's true, cancel them.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
What great did he introduce it?

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I was very low, it was very low.

Speaker 22 (54:00):
But the thing is that the taxes they grow like
poison ivy.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Was it like ten percent back in the day or
something like that. I mean, if you said to them,
you know, if you said, we.

Speaker 22 (54:09):
Need to the history of taxation New Zealand was written
not by me, that was Paul Goldsmoth. You're getting confused, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
I mean I know that you'll just you just know everything.
But if you said at the time, don't let the
younger do this children, because he'll start a ten percent,
but it's the thin of the wedge and before you
know it, you're paying thirty nine percent, that's ridict.

Speaker 22 (54:28):
I don't engage with it because I find it so
so emotionally distressful, and that's why we need to change.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
The triggering triggering.

Speaker 18 (54:36):
There is one other thing. Can I just raise it
to where do we draw the line?

Speaker 6 (54:39):
Right?

Speaker 18 (54:39):
We've got Rollston Township. Rolliston's growing is one of the
biggest fastest growing areas just outside christ We've got Rolliston College.
I know people called Rolliston, what will they change the
names as well?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
It's just ridiculous, Yeah, totally. I mean, there is a
William Roliston, isn't it wasn't he in the Federated Farmers.

Speaker 18 (54:58):
Well, there's a Humphrey Rolliston who's well known in christ Church.
So it's christ Church name and it's still a name.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
William will have to change the thing all together. Now, Jordan,
what do you think about this adh move? ADHD move
A good move?

Speaker 5 (55:12):
Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 22 (55:13):
I mean, I'm I'm not libertarian on too much, but
HM on this, I take the sort of the Economist
magazine view that that you know that the more the
MA area, I'd say that the performance enhancing mental drugs
that are used widely in campuses in North America, I
don't have the same moral objection to as a lot

(55:34):
of people, but I know, I'm not My views aren't
very mainstream. But the Economist just says like that, Are.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
You saying it's it's cool to do your exams on Rittlin?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
No, I think it's cool.

Speaker 22 (55:47):
I just think that it's south so widely done. I
was astounded.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
This is obviously as.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
The playing field. If everybody is doing it, then you
may as well let the rest of them do it.

Speaker 22 (55:58):
As well, you're not. My young guys in Auckland say
it's very common at the University of Auckland anyway. But
I was astounded when I did at university exchange to Germany,
as I say, many many years ago, the extent to
which performance enhancing drugs were used by students to sort
of stay awake and cram.

Speaker 9 (56:18):
And just.

Speaker 22 (56:20):
From the Ivy League schools in the US, I didn't
know the extent to which it's done. I should ask
my young chaps in Wellington, but that I just don't
have the same moral issues with ADHD drugs being slightly.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
More widely available.

Speaker 22 (56:36):
I know that this over diagnosis, and I agree with
all of that, but I just don't. As I say,
but there's not a certainly not textosion issue, and I
know that it's not a of you widely held Allie.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I can't decide if we're overdiagnosing or underdiagnosing. I just
don't think we don't.

Speaker 18 (56:52):
Yeah, and look, it's really interesting and I support this
move one hundred percent. I've changed my mind on it.
I think seeing the difference that it made for someone's
daughter with ADHD recently to be diagnosed and then beyond
the right medication. It was absolutely life changing for her,
but it was going to cost well, actually it did
cost her eighteen hundred bucks to see a specialist and

(57:12):
she had to wait and that was privately, So the
barriers are really heartbreaking. What I'm concerned about here is
that it's all very well for the government to be
making these changes, but we need to have the support
for the GPS and the nurse magnetitioners the training we needed,
counseling and support for those who are diagnosed. Otherwise it's
just virtual signaling. I think it's great that this is

(57:32):
going to be available two more people, but they need
some support to be supports around it as well.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Yeah, okay, guys, we'll take a break. Come back to
you just in just attack. It's the Huddle sixteen away
from Sex.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty achieve extraordinary
results with unparalleled reach.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Back with the Huddle. Jordan Williams of the Taxpas Union,
Allie Jones, Jordan rates Caps tell me.

Speaker 22 (57:55):
Why, Like here, I know you're captured by big count
and don't want don't.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Want rate the cat spending.

Speaker 22 (58:04):
Hey, yeah, the thing is the spending was going to
core infrastructure. If it was going for where the Polly's
and the officials calime, you know, we look at the
pipes the first thing. We desperately need more money to
fix them.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
But whenever we've.

Speaker 22 (58:17):
Done this, from an analysis on this over time, a
greater and greater proportion is going on operating expenditure, not
capital expenditure. It's going on empire buildings and staff. And
I'm sorry, when you can't be trusted with money, you
don't keep giving the agreement.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
But tell me I'm wrong, Jordan, tell me I'm wrong,
because I what I predict would happen is that they
will just run it up on the credit card. You'll
cap how much money they've got. They'll just keep on spending,
run it up on debt. They will still spend on
the wrong things. They will scrimp on the capital expenditure,
and before you know it, you've got a crisis like
they've got on Wellington with the pipes. And then somebody
like Rant Robertson goes it's okay, just you know, go hard, Okay.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Turn me out.

Speaker 22 (58:54):
It's take Water Act because it's thanks to the excellent
work the tax Baser Union did before the election and
the National Party adopting the I mean the government squeezes
from the size around the power of general competence and
what local government can do. You got to squeeze it
from the top and bottom two and that is around this.

Speaker 10 (59:12):
You know.

Speaker 22 (59:13):
And it's not unreasonable. It is limiting rates to inflation,
except for if you convince people in a local referenda.
That's what the policy we're calling for happens in in
part in Australia, it happens in the UK. Well, we
can they do it in Australia in the UK. Can't
when you can do it in Australia in the UK?

Speaker 24 (59:33):
Okay, different countries money because random would cost an absolute fortune.

Speaker 22 (59:39):
Oh not so very chuck. Fifteen percent was the average
rate to increase last year. No household is spending year
after year fifteen percentage.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
That's what we're putting up with.

Speaker 18 (59:49):
I'm not disagreeing with you, Jordan, but you cannot run
things like this on a committee, which is what a
referendum system does.

Speaker 5 (59:57):
Well, you totally.

Speaker 18 (59:58):
Agree, hang on, I totally squeeze the want no no,
no no.

Speaker 12 (01:00:02):
I agree with what.

Speaker 18 (01:00:03):
You said earlier, Heather, which was you've got to put
people around that council table who have got the nouse
to be able to do the job. And the other
thing is it's not city how it's not the staff
that are their nets are on the line here or
the accountability is there with them, it's the chief executive.
The chief executive is the only person that is answerable

(01:00:23):
to the counselors. Now, if the delegations of such the
people are signing stuff off that they shouldn't be, that
it's far too high, then they have to change that. No,
you have got to allow people to do the job
that they are there to do. But if they can't
do it, there has to be oversight and that's where
the chief executive comes in.

Speaker 22 (01:00:40):
Look at a story that the Text pay Union exposed today.
There's two point three million dollar disco duney in Wellington
of of some public lows two point three minion with
all the flashing lights and stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:00:53):
Yeah, no, killing avant problem.

Speaker 5 (01:00:55):
But it's not like for irrelevant.

Speaker 22 (01:01:00):
Undred and two point three million dollar public laboratories.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Then Ali that is that is that is you cannot say.

Speaker 22 (01:01:08):
That that is not representative of the local council and
your solution to fix the Wellington pipes is to give
them more money. It is not a revenue issue. It
is the quality of decision making and quality of spending.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
I got a.

Speaker 22 (01:01:21):
Squeezegree with decisions.

Speaker 18 (01:01:23):
I don't disagree with you that it's an issue. And
two point three million is a ridiculous amount of money
to pay for toilets. In fact, I rang round because
that's what I do, and I found that you can
get a triple toilet built for one hundred and twenty
five K. You have to add plan into that, it
has to rate it.

Speaker 24 (01:01:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:01:42):
But the point is that I don't think. I think
procurement policies have to be looked at. The Boston has
to be looked at, and there is no doubt that
this costs more than should have because it took three
years to do so. There are a whole lot of
issues here that need to be looked at as to
how this even came to two point three million. I
think the lights of right more lights only if they're

(01:02:02):
not going to add a massive amount.

Speaker 22 (01:02:05):
In the district. Dunning, because this is this book.

Speaker 5 (01:02:11):
Cubicles.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah, I'm it's wonderful to talk to you, and I
really appreciate the fact that you're both the experts on
those particular subjects, so thanks so much being obviously counsels
not toilets. Allie Jones, Jordan Williams a huddle this evening
nine away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Hither in the words of Warren Buffett, if you don't
understand accounting, you don't understand business and councils or businesses
where representatives have a higher accountability as it's not their
money that they're managing. Fairpoint, fairpoint. I realize that I
am unsatisfactory in this argument because I say this is
not the solution. The solution is to get people who
are not numpties around the council table. But I can't
tell you how we do that, so I don't know. Now.

(01:02:55):
Scott Simpson, do you remember that thing where the gal
A government is changing the law to protect the banks
ASB and A and Z the Australian banks from US.
Do you remember that where they changing the law because
they don't want to they feel bad for A and
Z and ASB having to pay fines to their customers
who are taking a court case against them because maybe

(01:03:15):
they have to pay fines to their customers. Do you
remember that. Well, Scott Simpson was on the show back
in May and we asked him about it and he said, no, no, no,
it's just the government saw that there was a problem
and they were fixing it. They weren't siding with the banks.

Speaker 25 (01:03:27):
I've met with the Bankers Association and they aren't calling
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I mean, come off, at why would you people be
making this change if it wasn't for the fact that
the banks wanted it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Well, that's well you might think that here though, hm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Well look, in a shock twist, the banks were asking
for it. Look, I know none of us saw this coming.
Janetibschraney has done at the Herald, has done a LITTLEAA request,
little information at request and found some correspondents and what
a surprise, the banks did ask for it. In June
last year, the New Zealand Banking Association wrote to the
Consumer and Commas and Consumer Minister to raise concerns and

(01:04:05):
the association asked the then Minister Andrew Bailey to enable
the court to impose proportionate penalties for breaches as the
okay blah blah blah blah blah blah, asked for it.
I rest should we just listen again to what our
mate Scott said.

Speaker 26 (01:04:17):
I've met with the Bankers Association and they aren't calling
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
I mean, come off at why would you people be
making this change if it wasn't for the fact that
the banks wanted it.

Speaker 17 (01:04:26):
Well, well you might think that here though, and I do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Anyway, never mind, we'll talk to him about it next
time he's on Hey, very very quickly before we go
after six, We're going to talk to this business that's
just going gangbusters in the States. There's a piece in
the ABC today it is apparently rude to call someone
out of the blue, and I want to know what
you think, but I also just want you to want
to warn you. They've got Anna Mussen, who's an etiquette
expert from Adelaide. She says, calling someone out of the

(01:04:54):
blue like just dialing, being like I'm going to call
Jack today, that is the modern day equivalent of drop
in on someone unannounced. Doctor Naomi Smith a digital sociologist
at the University of the Sunshine Coast. She says she's
often struck by horror when her phone rings unexpectedly she says,
it feels very pressing the demand of a phone call.
You have to deal with it right then and there

(01:05:15):
and give it your attention in the moment, in the
same way you would if someone popped over unannounced. I know,
I'm look you and I of I mean, come on, pet,
please tell me you're with me on this. It's not
the same as it you can if someone calls you unexpectedly,
you just don't answer it. You just don't answer it,
don't you Who else gets stressed out like Naomi and

(01:05:39):
Anna Lord? Let me know nine two nine two. Maybe
I'm just so rude and I don't even know it.
News Talks, the'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Even coming up in the next hour, Brad Olson's going
to talk us through the oil price. Paul Bloxham of
HSBC will talk us through a comparison he's made of
the Ossie and Kiwi economies and end of Brady of course,
out of the UK. It's seven past six now. If
you haven't heard of the company Halter. Remember that name,
because this could be our next key, big Keiwi invention
that's going to go bank gangbusters. The company just raised
one hundred and sixty five million dollars in a funding round.

(01:06:32):
Halter is now valued at a billion US dollars, so
that's one point sixty five billion New Zealand dollars. They
managed to secure backing from tech investment company Bond, which
also backed the likes of Airbnb, Facebook, and Spotify. And
Craig Pigot is the founder and CEO of Holter and
with us.

Speaker 25 (01:06:47):
Now, Hey Craig, good evening, Thanks having me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah, thanks for coming in. Now, just explain to me
what you guys do as you put a little like
thing around the neck of the cow and basically create
an electronic fence where a fence doesn't exist.

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:06:59):
Yeah, we're system for a pasture based farm. So I
think dariul bee farmers on grouse with a collar for
a cow, an app on a farmer's phone and that
collar transcals to response to queue so we can fence
and shift them house farmers run a more productive and
sustainable farm.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Does this farmer not have to go out of mustard
then they could just basically shift them with the collars.

Speaker 25 (01:07:18):
Yes, they can do it all through through halter.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, but how does the cow know which direction to
go in?

Speaker 25 (01:07:23):
Yes, so the cow listens to the collar. It has
like primary queues, which is sound of abration, and so
the cow kind of learns to respond to the sound
of the collar instead of visually seeing the fences that
exist today.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, can you so it will know where the fence
is right, so it'll know I can't go there because
the fence is there. Yes, but when you want to
shift them, so you've created a little electronic paddock. Now
you want to shift them to another electronic paddock. Can
you get them to move down the hill?

Speaker 25 (01:07:47):
It's actually like the same way we tell a cow
or guide a cow if they interact with the fence.
So if they come into a fence and we give
them feedback on left and right, and it's the same
way if we're we're shifting a cow. And that's also
where we use a vibration vibration queue to help reinforce
the right way and which way they should be walking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
So so if they're walking in the right direction, they
will know because if they're walking in the wrong direction,
the collar will tell them yes, yeah, Well, so why
is this taking off? Because it's I mean, obviously it's
going to make the job a hell of a lot easier,
isn't it. And you're not going to have that infrastructure
costs of fencing.

Speaker 25 (01:08:21):
I think the farming is I think just such a
critical role to a like New Zealand's economy, but also
around the world. And so when you can build a
product which helps farmers like at the heart of what
they do, which is trying to lift the productivity of
their land, then you know, those are important jobs to
focus on for farmers. And so my background and I
grew up farming, and I think that's why we you know,

(01:08:43):
that was kind of our I guess initial idea was like,
we need to focus on productivity and kind of the
key parts of how you run a farm, and and
that's what the products become today.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
So does this make does this free up time? Yes, yep,
it does.

Speaker 25 (01:08:56):
It automates a bunch of you don't have to put
up fences a shift cow, so you save some on that,
but then it also enables you to be slightly more precise,
so you can therefore lift the productivity of your pasture
in your land.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Do you have set up costs? Because I haven't read
the article, it seems that you have some sort of
like you have some sort of transmission that you require, right,
So is that quite a big investment?

Speaker 25 (01:09:17):
It's actually it used to be once upon a time.
But these days we do put towers up on farms,
but they come in a cardboard box. Farmers clip them
together like really lego. And I think the record to
put up a tower is like twenty minutes or fifteen
minutes or something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Stop it. And how much are they worth?

Speaker 25 (01:09:32):
The towers they come as part of like and we
do like we map the farm and we give the
farmer maybe three or four towers, and so they pay
one off kind of installation fee depends on the size
of the farm and where they are and things of that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Okay, so you have got currently in your fences quarter
of a million cows. How many cows they're in the world.

Speaker 25 (01:09:52):
We crossed the two hundred and fifty thousand cow milestone
I think towards the end of last year, and obviously
been growing kind of since then. The world is about
three hundred and fifty million, so lush best scales, no end.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Of expansionary opportunities here for you.

Speaker 25 (01:10:06):
Agriculture is obviously like a massive industry, and so yeah,
we have a long way to go. We feel like
we are just getting started on the on the journey
and on the mission, and we're excited if we take
the impact we're seeing on our customers today and just
how they are lifting the productivity and sustainability and saving
time and it's better for the farmers and the land
and the cows, and trying to scale that through new
markets and things of that. We are excited to keep

(01:10:29):
kind of pushing that credit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
What do you think you are? You're the next what?
That's a big question.

Speaker 25 (01:10:37):
I think we these like heaps of so many cool
companies I think out there having a huge, huge impact.
And so obviously I spent some time with Rock Lab
and really at my opedia Beck and he's been instrumental
in helping to build Holter and just I couldn't be
more grateful to Pete. But I think for us, we
just focused on farmers and ag and that industry.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
And where where was the farm that you grew up on?

Speaker 25 (01:10:57):
I grew up in Marinsville, Well, actually all around the
South wak I do, but morons all was it's where
my parents are today, and it's whether everything kind of started.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Have the parents got this on the farm.

Speaker 25 (01:11:07):
They were the first customer for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
How old are you, Craig, I am thirty one. Oh
I see heapes behind Jinda Morrins from college.

Speaker 25 (01:11:18):
Yeah, we didn't. There was no overlap with Jacinda.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
But well maybe if you you know what, you could
be the most famous Moronsville guy if you keep going
at this. Craig, thank you very much for coming in.
I really appreciate your time.

Speaker 16 (01:11:29):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
That's Craig Pigot, founder and CEO of Halter. Remember the
name twelve past six.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Get a load of this. This is from Nathan Heather
during carving, I spend three hours a day putting up
fences for cows. Halter can do it in ten minutes,
so I can save twenty hours a week for twelve weeks.
That's two hundred and forty hours for our farm at
one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars per annum and an
aging workforce. I'm replacing a labor unit at a lower
cost than the people I would normally have to replace
them with. It's brilliant tech and it's an innovation that

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is game changing. Nathan, thank you. And these guys, by
the way, have got backers that include Peter Teal, Peter Beck,
Sir Steven Tindall. The funding round was led by Bond.
Bond is based in San fran Bond's founding partners have
backed the likes of Airbnb, Door, Dash, Facebook, Uber so
On drew investment. This funding around drew investment from NewView Capital, Blackbird,
ice House Ventures, and had returning investors from Bench Partners,

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Palo Alto's DCVC, and a whole bunch of others. So,
I mean, you know, if the smart guys are putting
their money there, then they might must be onto something.
You'd think. Sixteen past six now, oil prices dropped surprisingly
with Iran's striking Qatar Brad Olsen is in for metrics
principal economists and with us A Brad.

Speaker 27 (01:12:57):
Good evening.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Would you have expected them to do the opposite.

Speaker 27 (01:13:01):
Well, we've sort of been expecting a bit more of
a fulsome response from Iran, So if that had happened,
then yeah, we were expecting oil prices to go higher.
If we saw the strait of Hormus being blocked or similar,
you could have seen a much different result. As it is,
over the course of twenty four hours, we've had the
markets go from being still quite worried about things to
now a ceasefire being in operation. Oil prices have crashed

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something like fourteen percent since their peak. We're now under
seventy US a barrel. So you know, in the course
of a couple of days, we've gone from what feels
like the brink of World War III to you know,
everything's back to normal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
So now we've got a cease Well, don't get over excited, Brad, jeez,
I mean, it's still Trump running the free world. We've
got a bit of a ceasefire deal here. What's that
going to do to the price of oil?

Speaker 27 (01:13:48):
Well, so far it really seems to have settled everyone down.
The expectation and the concern, I guess was always that
if you had this wider regional conflict. If you saw
the Iranians that we're going to block the straight of
hormone that has twenty percent of the world's oil going
through it, that would see further spikes in prices. You
would have seen that in New Zealand with potentially three

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dollars a eet of petrol starting to come back. As
it is, things have actually gone back now. Oil prices
are now lower than where they were before the original
Israeli strike on the thirteenth of June, and so everyone
seems to be now looking at things and going, well,
there's no real reason that oil supply should be constrained.
There seems to be no ongoing risk to getting fuel

(01:14:30):
and so on. That basis is sort of no need
to worry quite as much, which is why you've seen
the price is sort of I'm not going to say
they've crashed, but Jesus, it was a pretty big drop
over the last twenty four hours of over ten percent.
I mean, we really have gone from one end of
the spectrum to another in a very short space.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Now with the whiplash is something else. So Brad, thank
you so much. Appreciated. Brad Olson Infometrics principle economists who
Fletcher building a Never a day goes by, never a
week goes by without Fletcher doing something that you're like, Wow, Okay,
So they got more or impairment costs they had the
Investors Day today, the company said it expects new restructuring

(01:15:05):
and investment impairment costs of between three hundred and five
hundred million dollars over the twenty five financial year. Most
of this relates to restructuring, redundancy costs, goodwill and brand impairments,
closure costs, provision for owners contracts, blah blah blah. They're
also sinking another ten to fifteen million dollars into defending
the IPEX issue iPLEX issue in Western Australia, which is

(01:15:27):
kind of dragging on a wee bit. The company's chair
Peter Crowley acknowledges that there has been quote past unacceptable
performance and has said that lessons have been learned and
a major turnaround was underway and I think a lot
of investors probably like to see that. Nineteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
The Rural Report with MSD Animal Health home of Rotovec
Corona ends its leading calf scars vaccine.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Heybreaking news. Israel has just agreed to the ceasefire with
the run. We've been waiting for that, so it's come
through six twenty two and Jamie McKay, Host of the
Countries with us.

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
Hello, Jamie gooda heathere.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Are you at some sort of award again?

Speaker 6 (01:16:04):
Yeah, well I'm not getting one. I'm handing some out tonight,
which is good. It's the This is like Heather the
Rural Oscars, the Rural Academy Awards, and it's happening in
the Flash. Have you been to the NEWPAI or relatively
new SUPPI conference center and christ Church It's quite magnificent.
So that looked good. Well, it's looking marvelous. It's like
the big flash one that you former in your case,

(01:16:27):
Wellington ratepayers have got on Wellington Keina. We've got these
wonderful conference centers. We've just got to pay for them.
But this is beautiful and tonight this is the primary
industry New Zealand summit, so organized by Federated Farmers and
they get two days all the industry leaders in one room.
They had some fascinating talkers, including a guy by the

(01:16:49):
name of Michael every this morning on Trump and what's
happening around the world. See that was frightening. And tonight
we have the primary industry awards, the Rural Oscars, and
then tomorrow we lick our wounds, get out of bed
and do it all again and then go home.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Why was it frightening to talk about Trump?

Speaker 6 (01:17:08):
Oh, it was just interesting. He was talking about where.
This is a guy called Michael every who's a Singapore
based global strategist FABO Bank. His views are widely sought
around the world. He's a regular on my show and
I often say to him that after I've chatted to him,
I feel like climbing to the seventh floor Heather, which

(01:17:29):
is the top floor of the West Back building in
Duneden where we broadcast from and jumping off because because
he is so depressing and that's when we're in good time,
so you can imagine what he was like this morning.
But it was interesting. He spoke about Trump and I
was walking out of the out of his address and
a farmer said to me, you know, after hearing that

(01:17:50):
maybe Trump's not as nutty as we think. And he's
saying basically that Trump is changing the direction of how
politics a is being played, but more importantly will be
played in the next twenty or thirty years and it
was almost singing the praises of Trump's terraffs.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Well, there you go. Well you know what I think
there's there have been times where I have wandered myself
where there may be in the long rut run he'll
actually be proved, right, But I don't know. Jamie, enjoy yourself,
don't go too large, drink responsibly, et cetera, et cetera.
Jamie McKay, host of the Country sixteen ever do for
c l Right, here's your daily dose of Showbur's news
that you have to know. You know the UK TV

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star Nol Edmonds. He's got this new documentary because he's
settled in New Zealand right and Richmond, and this new
documentary series has got the reviewers and tuzzy.

Speaker 28 (01:18:36):
New Zealand's a great place to come to. It's not
the easiest place to set up a business. Welcome to
the bugger. We're hemorrhaching money at the moment.

Speaker 7 (01:18:48):
We need a bigger cream.

Speaker 28 (01:18:50):
You travel half way around the world and he turns
up what lives.

Speaker 29 (01:18:54):
And I wish to achieve his community and people are happy.

Speaker 16 (01:18:58):
That's the key thing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
So Noel Edmonds's key we Adventure shows him on his
eight hundred acre estate river Haven in the South Island,
including a pub that he has set up called The Bugger.
In The Guardian has The Guardian has given him three
out of five stars and said you'd have to utterly
hate the TV host to resist this tale of his

(01:19:21):
woo woo life as a New Zealand pub landlord.

Speaker 30 (01:19:24):
Welcome to the Bugger.

Speaker 29 (01:19:26):
It's a very nice, hazy IPA boring bastard hot liquor
and American ipa. The old Gitsa Pilsnum tits up is
our lager and Dick Insider is very popular, particularly with
the Lady Hm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
The US say it's like a slower paced Clarkson's farm,
so if you like Clarkson's farm you might enjoy this.
The Independent. The Independent has watched it as well. This
is what they say. We learn about Knoll. We learn
that Knoll considered Liz, considers is Liz's lady. Yeah, Liz's
lady to be a quote Earth angel. I believe she

(01:20:00):
was a gift from the Cosmos. He considers his fancy
nail gun to be a sex toy. He has a
crystal bed, literally, he has a bed with some crystal
suspended above it, to which he partly attributes has amazing longevity.
And he also has a workout regime that he calls
tranquil Power. And he has a nickname finally, as if

(01:20:21):
like as if you need any more convincing to go
and watch this. He has a nickname for his private parts,
mister Happy, mister Happier.

Speaker 12 (01:20:35):
And the Twins, Mister Happy in the Twins.

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
Honestly, it's so.

Speaker 12 (01:20:46):
Bad, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
You just know that he is. That will be part
of his routine when he's trying to get Liz fizzing
for the night. Is I'm Master Happy And the Twins,
Oh Jesus, Honestly, grown men, grown men. They hit three
and then they never developed that.

Speaker 12 (01:21:02):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Anyway, go and watch it. I'm going to be at substage,
aren't you right. Paul blocks him next. He's a proper
grown up. He's going to talk us through the comparison
he's done between the Australian and New Zealand economies. He
reckons we're okay.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
News talks b.

Speaker 31 (01:21:29):
Again for a new person, over again, crunching the numbers
and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
It's Heather due to c Allen with the business hour
and mass insurance and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future.
News talks that'd.

Speaker 30 (01:21:48):
Be Doglady's going to BUI with us out of the
UK in ten minutes time, and we need to deal
with the I did talk about the people who get
triggered by phone calls.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
We've got to deal with that. It's twenty five away
from seven. AGSPC chief economist Paul Bloxham is back with us. Hello, Paul.

Speaker 26 (01:22:10):
Good eight Now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Paul, you've been telling me for months that you think
the New Zealand economy is doing better than we think.
You got the numbers now to back you up.

Speaker 26 (01:22:17):
Yeah, well, we got the GDP figures and they were
fairly strong. I think you aligned with the sort of
view we've had for a little while that New Zealand
would be in an economic upswing this year, and it
would be a reasonable, reasonable one. We've got GDP running
at point eight in the quarter. That's actually a pretty
decent number. It was twice the pace that the Central
Bank had been forecasting just in their last set of forecasts.

(01:22:39):
And we think it's underpinned by things that will continue
to lift growth through the year. The two big ones
that interest rates have already come down a long way
two hundred and twenty five basis points of easing so far,
and that's going to start to flow through. It's effect
takes time, but it'll flow through. And the other big one,
of course, is that dairy prices are high and you've
got a positive lift in export's going on. That's driving

(01:23:02):
incomes in the agricultural sector, and we think that tends
to flow over through to the cities as well. It
just takes a little bit of time. So those two
big factors we think are driving New Zealand into an
economic upswing this year.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Do you think the beating of expectations that happened in
the first quarter carries on throughout the year.

Speaker 26 (01:23:18):
We do think that where our forecast is at the
top edge of the consensus. So if you listed the
whole the economists right now and looked at what their
fullcasts are for growth for New Zealand this year, we
would be at the top of that list. And that's
because we think that actually there's going to be a
bit more momentum than others do. So yes, I think
in principle we think that quite a bit of the

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momentum that started off in the first quarter continues into
the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
So the thing that's given people a bit of the
wobbles is the readings we got in May, right for
the PMI and the PSIE. You're not too worried about that.

Speaker 26 (01:23:51):
I think you've got to be careful to overly interpret
any one month's indicator. And you've have got this Indica,
the set of indicators for May that have weakened. But
keep in mind what's going on globally and then try
to have a think about why sort of these global
shops that are going on in trade policy should really
fundamentally feed through to New Zealand. And I think it's

(01:24:12):
a stretch to believe that. You know, it's more likely
to be sentiment than it is likely to be a
genuine sort of slow down in the growth story, given
the momentum we think that's there from as I say,
interest rates coming down and the particularly strong rise in
dairy exports. So while we're aware of it and we're
watching it and that may it may prove to be
that actually things have weakened a bit, we're not prepared

(01:24:34):
to jump quite as strongly in that direction just based
on one month's reading.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Now, now you've done a comparison between how our economy
is tracking in Australia and to your mind, we're doing
a lot better than Australia. What's going wrong with them?

Speaker 26 (01:24:47):
Well, the first thing is that part of this story
is purely cyclical. You know, Australia didn't have as big
a slowdown last year, and so we don't think it's
going to get as big an upswing this year. Inflation's
coming down slowly. New Zealand had a much deeper downturn
last year, and so interest rates have come down a
lot more quickly, and of course you're going to get
as a bat on the back of that, we think

(01:25:08):
a cyclical upswing. Both economies have some structural challenges and
the primary issue there, of course is that productivity is weak,
and that productivity story is constraining growth in the economy.
It's much more prominent in Australia, though. I think in
Australia we've got some really quite dismal productivity outcomes. So
on the last print we got output per hour work,

(01:25:31):
which is exactly as it sounds. It's how much output,
how much GDP you get for how many hours you
put into the economy was falling by one percent. It
fell by one percent over the past year. This is
not a new story. It's been going on for a
while now. But productivity is really quite a big challenge here.
I know it is in New Zealand too, but it's
an even bigger challenge in Australia, and that is presenting
a pretty decent headwind to the pace at which the

(01:25:53):
Australian economy can grow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Why why is it a bigger problem there?

Speaker 26 (01:25:58):
I think we just haven't done very much reform in
recent years, and that's one of the factors. I mean,
you could say the same about parts of the New
Zealand story too, and you know, policymakers need to really
focus on on the reform agenda. I think the other
thing is that we've seen a lot of growth in
the Australian economy over the past couple of years has
been driven by public spending. It's been public demand. In fact,

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you know, eighty percent of the growth in the Australian
economy over the past two years has come from public demand,
or three quarters of the job creation has been public
demand as well. Public demand funded and so those jobs
tend to have lower levels of productivity on average. We're
talking about things that are mostly related to the care economy,
aged care, disability, the disability insurance scheme, the health, the

(01:26:39):
health side, and these things tend to have lower productivity.
I think if you looked at the comparable numbers for
New Zealand, although public demand's been solid, it hasn't been
nearly as strong as you've seen in Australia.

Speaker 24 (01:26:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
Interesting, that's fascinating. Also good news there. Thank you very much, Paul,
appreciate it. Paul Bloxham, hspec's chief economist, twenty away from
seven Together dulh Hey, the Order to Generals just put
out a report today into how conflicts of interest were
managed in the fast Track approvals process. Because remember there
was a lot of talk about the people making the
decisions having conflicts of interest and blah blah blah. He's
found overall the system for managing ministerial conflicts in the

(01:27:13):
fast track approvals process was sound. So we can stop
talking about that, then, can't we. Now, have you had
enough good news today because I don't feel like I have.
I've had a lot, but I can give you some more.
Do you know roadblocks? Now? I don't know roadblocks because
I don't, like, I really hate my cell phone, but
other people love their cell phones, they really really do.

(01:27:36):
And so that been playing a lot of games on it.
Not talking about anybody but our producer Sam anyway. So
what roadblocks is is that there is It's like a
gaming platform, right, It's one of the world's largest gaming platforms.
At the start of this year, it had ninety million
people who were active in this virtual universe, this particular platform,

(01:27:56):
and this platform you can. Sam showed me how it
works today and basically you go on, you open the
old DApp and then from there you can choose which
game you want to play. One of the games on
there is called Grow a Garden. It's made by some Kiwis.
It's going gangbusters. It's clocked twenty million people playing it
at once last weekend. That made it one of the

(01:28:16):
most played games of this year. It has had nine
billion visits since it was created in March. That's extraordinary.
It was made by a sixteen year old in about
three to four days. Then it was like I guess,
bought and run by a twenty eight year old guy
who runs a Splitting Points studios. They make a habit
of going and buying these games and then running them

(01:28:38):
and you know, trying to monetize them and stuff like that. Anyway,
the game basically involves you getting a patch of virtual land,
growing yourself a garden, and then when you harvest all
of your virtual crops, you can sell your items for money.
And then you can't if you can't be bothered with
the hard work that that entails, you could just go
and steal it from other people's gardens made by a
Kiwi going gangbusters. We're just winning at the moment away

(01:29:00):
from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics. It's all
on the business hours with Hither duplicy Ellen and mes
insurance and investments. Grow your wealth to protect your future.
These talks ed me hither.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
That game was known as Farmville on Facebook fifteen years ago. Grace,
thank you for that quarter to seven into Brady UK
correspondence with us right now, Hey.

Speaker 7 (01:29:22):
Inda, Hey, Heather, how are you?

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
I'm well? Thank you?

Speaker 31 (01:29:25):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Is this five percent of GDP for the military spending reel?

Speaker 7 (01:29:30):
Yes, it will be in ten years time, that's the problem.
And where will we be in a decade. We simply
don't know. So Keir Starmer is heading over to the
Netherlands to the Hague. There is the big two day
summit of all the NATO leaders starting today. What's interesting
is out of nowhere yesterday, and this didn't really make
the news because of everything that's going on in the

(01:29:50):
Middle East. President Zelenski arrived pretty much unannounced into London yesterday.
He went straight to Windsor Castle for lunch with King
Charles and then he came back to number ten Downing Street.
They literally rolled out a red carpet at the front
of number ten Downing Street for Zelenski yesterday. So the
threat from Russia, the war, it has not stopped. The

(01:30:12):
Russian threat has not gone away. And Starmar's pledge to
NATO today will be that yes, Britain will start spending
five percent of GDP on defense, but it'll take them
a decade to get there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Now, what is interesting about it is that it's made
up of three point five percent, which is traditional defense spending,
and then one point five percent, which is whole of society.
What does that mean.

Speaker 7 (01:30:35):
I think that's investment in infrastructure. And look, given what
we saw the other day with pro Palestinian activists getting
onto an RAF air base in Oxfordshire and effectively destroying
aircraft tens of millions of dollars worth. They need every
penny they can get because that was very embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Hey, so where's the statue of Queen Elizabeth? Gonna go?

Speaker 7 (01:30:58):
Saint James's Park in front of Buckingham Palace, And basically
Lord Norman Foster, the renowned British architect, has been given
the gig. He was one of several entries and the
government and the royal family have chosen him. So there
will be a statue of the Queen on horseback. There

(01:31:19):
will be a kind of like a see through bridge
over replacing what is a bridge there at the moment
in Saint James's Park, And interestingly they're also going to
have a statue of Prince Philip. So it'll be a
really kind of standout kind of moment, I think. And
the plan is for it all to be done by
April next year, when she would have turned one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Hey, tell me about this island and the key we
connection to the Scottish island.

Speaker 7 (01:31:45):
Yeah, this is a lovely story. Today, So there is
an island for sale called Shoona Shuna and it has
a ruined castle on it. Eleven million dollars if you
fancy it. It is beautiful, but the castle is in ruins.
Would you believe? In nineteen eleven a Kiwi adventurer called
George Alexander Buckley McLean he built that castle. It's absolutely

(01:32:09):
stunning the beaches. It looks beautiful, very serene and peaceful.
But I think eleven mill is just a starter. If
you can buy the island, you're gonna probably have to
spend another ten or eleven doing up that castle. But
a Kiwi adventurer, he was a mate of Shackleton's. He
was on the expedition to the Antarctic on the Nimrod
and he somehow rocked up on a Scottish island in

(01:32:31):
nineteen eleven and built himself a castle. The family are
selling it. Family are selling it now. Bottom line is
eleven million ends z.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
What do you know about? This castle is double glazed, nunsulated.

Speaker 7 (01:32:44):
It's got trees growing out of the windows. Come on, Heather,
come on, that's the catch. You're gonna have to spend
a lot of money doing it up. There was a
family living there up until maybe three or four decades ago.
The kids were home schooled and it's been in the
same family for eighty years. They're now deciding to sell.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Is that that's the Gully family, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (01:33:06):
This is it?

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:33:06):
Yeah, the Gully family and that they've Dave's decided to
cash in their chips. Boss. Look, someone in Ireland last
week won about four hundred million dollars on euro millions
matching seven balls. So this will be loose change for someone.
And what a project, what a project.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Thanks and to appreciate it. Into Brady, UK correspondent. Yeah,
it's it's quite the yarn and it's worth going through
reading about it. Actually loving a yarn that ends up
being connected to Shackleton here that you can tell by
that game that it's made by a Kiwa. Don't like
what's in your garden go steal from someone else? Yeah,
that is it's a bit a bit of us, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
There's a bit of news about Ponsonby Road in the
last twenty four hours, and I care about it because
I live in Ponsonby and I, you know, loiter around
Ponsonby Road and have really loitered around Ponsonby Road since
I was at university. It was it was the place
I went to to drink far too much when I
was studying my Bachelor of ass and then you know,

(01:34:04):
grew up, bought a house around there. Thought I was
a big deal. Now I just marched the children up
and down it, you know, pop into the Dlhi. Actually
the Dalhi is fantastic. But anyway, I get off track.
Why I care about Ponsby Road is because I live
there and someone has suggested, and that many of people
have suggested this particular article that Ponsonby Road is dying.
And I'm glad they said that because it confirms to

(01:34:27):
me I'm not imagining it, because I have noticed this.
I've noticed that Ponsonby Roads is just having a bit
of a tough time, and I feel like we should
discuss this. So let's hold hold, hold the line caller,
deal with it in a minute, tend to.

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Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
The good news doesn't end, we have been voted the
country that is the best in the world for work
life balance.

Speaker 12 (01:35:06):
Again.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Yep, right now, we're having a great life time out
sixty countries been ranked on factors like paid maternity leave,
sick leave, public happiness, and average work hours per employees.

Speaker 22 (01:35:18):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
Feel good about yourself anyway. Listen, let's talk about Ponsby
Road really quickly. I think there's a lesson here for everybody,
whether you live in Auckland, Ponsonby, down country wherever. What
they've done is they've mucked up the road, right, so
they've got too much hospitality and not enough retail, and
there are lots and landlords are trying to keep the
price of rent up. Landlords really suck sometimes. I don't

(01:35:39):
know if you've noticed this, but they really do not
do us any favors in our in our hot spots.
The landlords are apparently in Ponsoby, leaving places empty rather
than dropping the rent to get people in. God only
knows why they do that, but they do that. You've
got longtime fashion businesses just getting tired of it and
leaving Zambizi. Kate Sylvester, Juliet Hogan, Carlson I mean Zambizi.
I grew up with Zambizi and world being there. They've

(01:36:01):
been there forever. And now Zambizi has gone. Flotsam and Jetsam,
which is a vintage home Westol which is a strange
little shop that used to be on the corner of
Williams and Ab and Ponsby Road, that's gone. It's gone
to Richmond Road in Grayln And basically what's happening is
the same thing that happened to Parnell Road. Or do
you remember how parn Ow Road was really cool in
the sort of like nineties and early two thousands. That's

(01:36:22):
where you went to have a good time. Not anymore, Beattie.
When was the last time you went to Parnell Road?

Speaker 9 (01:36:28):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:36:28):
Hell no, ans I used to live there like three
years ago, so probably not since then.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Oh that's see, I haven't been to Parnell well. I
stayed on an apartment on Parnell Road. Really good people
rented it to us when we first moved back to
Auckland start of twenty three. Haven't been back there. I
don't even know if I've been back there. No, probably
won't drive around it anyway. So there you go be
careful of that situation. Hey, thank you, because everybody who
texts me earlier on about people getting triggered by phone

(01:36:54):
calls is on the same page as me. Bloody hell, Heather,
these women cannot be married, can they? Because who the
would have them if they get triggered by our phone call? Hither,
what is wrong with these whimps? Where's the courage? I
mean that you need courage to answer your own phone
is a mental situation. Hither, it's called voicemail. Dennis, you
bang on ants.

Speaker 11 (01:37:13):
Right here that you remember this one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
This is the story of a girl Crow.

Speaker 11 (01:37:19):
So the band who made the song called nine Days,
I genuinely couldn't have told you that before I looked
the Startlets. This is their only song that really got popular.
But they have done eight albums. They're going to Australia
for the first time ever. In the entire history of
the band, they have never been to Australia. But it's
happening in November. They're going to be playing in Brisbane,
in Sydney and in Melbourne. Normally I'd be optimistic and say, well,

(01:37:40):
this room and that schedule to do a New Zealand
show as well. No, no, no worry about it. Oh yeah,
they just tend to discuss us these days. But still
easy enough to fly over there. If you would really
like to see the song and some of the other
stuff off their eight.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Albums, would you fly for the song?

Speaker 11 (01:37:52):
Absolutely not, even though the song is called absolutely and
the band is called Nine.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
Days, So this song is called absolutely.

Speaker 11 (01:37:58):
Absolutely in brackets story of a girl. Like, guys, just
admit it. Everyone is just going to call the song.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Story of a girl.

Speaker 10 (01:38:04):
Why just call it story?

Speaker 11 (01:38:05):
Just call it story of a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:38:07):
This is a shock to me that it's not called
story of a girl anyway. Thank you, as we learned
something every day. See you tomorrow, have a lovely evening
in the best country to live in or whatever it
was before. Yay U s cool?

Speaker 9 (01:38:20):
We wind us.

Speaker 31 (01:38:21):
This was the words I would saying here a wedding.
Where to day when you're walking to Nell.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
This is the story of.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
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