Full Show Podcast: 24 September 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hither dup cy Ellen drive with one New Zealand
let's get connected us. Tom said, be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Hey, good afternoon. Coming up on the show today, Police
Minister Mark Mitchell on the Police commissioner quitting, Jeffrey Miller,
foreign policy anist analyst on how far off war we
are in the Lebanon situation, and Chloe Swarbrick on whether
they're sure, really sure that they should try again to
kick Darlene out.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Heather Dupicy Ellen.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
So, Andrew Costa has resigned his Police commission. He's got
himself a new job. He is going to be running
the government's new social Investment agency, and I reckon he's
actually going to be good at this job. Now I
acknowledge this may not be a popular appointment. I think
a lot of people will see this for what it
probably is, which is that it's a job that's been
given to him to get him to leave the police

(00:55):
job because the government doesn't want him an there anymore.
And also this will reinforce the eye that there's a
job Mary go around in Wellington, which is obviously true.
And also there will be questions about why on earth
you'd reward someone for being pretty bad at their previous job,
which Costa definitely was when he was a shocker of
a police commissioner. And all of those criticisms, many of
which are already in my inbox, are completely valid. But

(01:17):
set all of that aside. I think he's going to
be good at this job because this is his wheelhouse. Right,
Andrew Costa never was a crackdown on crime guy. He's
a cotton wool guy. He's a believe in people's potential guy.
He's a given them another chance guy. He believes so
much in the fence at the top of the cliff
that he forgot that his job was actually to be
running the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. But

(01:38):
this job that he's just been given is the fence
at the top of the cliff job. The point of
the Social Investment Agency is to help people before they
become criminals, right, put a lot of money and a
lot of resource into them to try to stop them
going down the path that leads them to criminality. You
even start investing in them when they're babies. Now, that

(01:58):
is right up, Andrew cost dos Aally, isn't it and
for all of his failings as a police commissioner, his
inability to be tough on gangs, his inability to even
do the basics like clear out the parliamentary protest before
it got out of hand. Remember how he kept saying,
I'm gonna tell your cars. Now I'm this, No, this time,
I'm really going to tell your cars. No, okay, today,
I'm really going to tell your cars. And it never happened.

(02:18):
Remember all of that stuff. For all of that, I
actually think he is still a very bright and decent guy.
So I just think what this was was a case
of the wrong job for the wrong guy. I am
very happy he's leaving the police. I hope we never
have a commissioner as weak as week on crime as
him again. But I think that there is a very
very good chance that he's actually going to be very

(02:38):
very good at what he does next. And I hope
he's good at it because this is a very important job.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Heather due for CLA nineteen nineteen is the text.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Under standard text fees apply And we're going to talk
to Mark Mitchell about all of this when he's with
us after five o'clock. Now, the government's pushed to get
the public servants back into offices and Wellington is catching
on half to the city chief executive in Auckland, Beck
says Auckland Council should lead by example. The council, however,
of course, says it has no intention to do that.
Verve Becker's with us now have viv Hello, how much

(03:09):
of a difference would it make if the Auckland Council
workers were actually back in the city.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, overall, we're about thirty thousand people down in the
morning peak on week days. That's a lot of people, yes,
every day if you look before COVID and some of
that is all the construction and some of it is
COVID and working from home. And obviously Auckland Council can't
single handedly change that. And I do understand one size

(03:36):
doesn't fit all, but I am thinking this is a
good initiative to tighten those working from home policies. And
really I'm saying to council there's an opportunity to take
a lead here.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
What proportion of the inner city workforce is thirty thousand.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, put it this way, we're about that's about about
thirty percent down.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Wow, Okay, that's really significant. So this will be this
will be felt by basically the same story as as
in Wellington, by the hosper guys and the retail guys
and so on. They will notice that there. Yeah, it does.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, and this also just has that effect on the
vibrancy of the place. You know, it just feels better
when there are more people around. I mean, we're fortunate
we get tourists, we've got people living here, we have events.
But that's a big So that's a foot traffic, but
in terms of the peak, that morning peak, you know,
that's that's around twenty percent fewer than we had before.

(04:36):
But in terms of foot traffic, we're actually thirty percent down.
So you know, the reality is it's a significant impact.
And you know, I understand flexibility is around and I
mean I implemented flexibility in a business many years ago
and people said you couldn't do it. But the reality
is we have got a significant shortfall of people and

(04:56):
it's quite some way off before the CRL opens.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
And what we've.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Been saying to count sol and to be fair, we're
getting a fair hearing and basically saying to them that
we need to do everything we can to get people
back here. Because it's no point waiting for the CRL
and expecting fifty four thousand people to pop out every hour.
We've actually got to keep the place alive and vibrant,
and this is one way that would make a difference.
So I'm really just asking them to reassess their policy.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
You have a good relationship with Wayne Brown, because I
mean it's one thing for Auckland Council to say, Na,
they're not going to do it, because I mean, this
is exactly what you expect from bureaucrats. But Waine might
be able to whip them into shape.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, So that's another conversation.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I can have wanted to be a fair r.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
No, to be fair, I got a good hearing from
the mayor and counselors, and I have had to from
the chief executive around the importance of getting people back
into the central city. And you know some of the
things that we that happen right now that are deterrents.
I'm asking them to change things.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
So how can you say you had a fair hearing
when like day two of this they come out and
they go, no.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
I know not on this.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
What I'm saying is I presented to them some weeks
ago and raised these points, got a fair hearing and
I'm just continuing to remind them that this matters absolutely.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
The best of luck with it. I really appreciate your time.
That's Vivbeck, heart of the city Chief Executive. Yet I mean,
just how much is how much? Is Auckland Council just
basically another version of the bloated the blob in Wellington.
Auckland Council says it has no intention of changing its
policy which requires staff members to work only three days
a week in person. All right for some, isn't it
ill tell you what ratepayers are paying those people's bills

(06:32):
If we can slap our butts into the office three
days a week, five days a week, sorry, and fight
the buses and the trains and the commuter traffic, and
we can find childcare for our children if we can
do it five days a week. Frankly you can too.
Stop being lazy. Now we're twists in the P did
he story? P did? He is making more money right

(06:53):
now than he was about a week ago because of
his arrest last week on the sex trafficking charges. And
the reason is because since he was arrested, there has
been a jump of around about eighteen percent plus in
the streams of his song, And every time you stream
one of his songs, he just gets a little bit
of something. It might not be March, but it all
adds up in the end. And basically the reason people
are streaming his music at the moment is because they're curious, right,

(07:15):
They're like, Oh, this is horrific. What this guy's been
accused of. What kind of person would do that? Let
me go back and listen to his songs again and
his lyrics. Maybe you've never even heard of him, if
you're of a certain age, to go back to listen
to him. Same thing happened to r Kelly, Remember that
documentary that was put out about him and the underage girls.
Same thing happened. His numbers nearly doubled after that quarter
past four.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c
Allen Drive with one New zealand one giant leap for business.
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downloaded today Ri eighteen bed responsibly.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Darcy Warder, Grave host of Sports Talkers with Me, Hello.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Darce, Hello, Heather.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
So turns out there's not a lot of love for
Yitka clin Yitka clan. I'm so worried about getting it
wrong with you now because you're worried about it, I'm
the only.

Speaker 6 (08:02):
One that says you can clink of her. Except yet
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Talking about her, aren't they the people.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
That are right?

Speaker 7 (08:12):
Because the players that have talked about and the player concerned,
they won't go public. So in essence, no one's really
talking about it at.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
All because did she actually do well?

Speaker 6 (08:22):
This is it?

Speaker 7 (08:23):
No one wants to go to record to say that,
so no one can back that up and go while
she did this because he's been legal ramifications around. If
you say stuff, well I know some things, but I
can't say them, I'll get rolled. So and then you've
got New Zealand Football not wanted to say it, and
then Whi's is no surprise there, That's what you get.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
You get clink of her not saying anything. There we
go again.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
So Darcy Okay. So, at one end of the scale
of what you could do to a player, you can
punch them in the face of the end of them unconscious.
At the other end of the scale of what you
could do to a player is maybe you playfully tap
them on the bottom or something like that. Was you
into the scale are we're talking about here? Is it
the lighter or the heavier?

Speaker 7 (09:03):
Well, it depends on you if you're the person that
received whatever it was.

Speaker 6 (09:08):
But because some people.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Are not knowledge what is well, I don't know how.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
I don't know how an athlete would respond to their
coach in a situation such as that.

Speaker 6 (09:21):
I know that round here on the O. Okay, I'll
carry the office right.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
If I was to come up and give you a
big cuddle, you probably wouldn't take me to HR.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, I think, I mean it's a possibility. Now, let's
see what you mean.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
Yeah, And so we don't know because we don't know
what has been put in place for the athletes around protocol,
around the coach and the ethics. Look, it might be
something as insignificant as a cuddle.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
Yes, So the reason you touched me, you don't touch me.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Let's go there. The reason I'm asking you this question
is because what I've heard is that it is something
as insignificant as a cuddle, in which case I'm wondering
why on earth a group full of women have reacted
like this.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Okay, so I would say if it is something as
I don't know exactly how insignificant it seems. Yeah, if
it was, then maybe Yetka wasn't like there's a coach
and that was a trigger to move her on.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
Is that an idea?

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Yes, again, because no one talks and no one knows
the effect that's had and what's driven it. As I've
always said, when you have a vacuum, what happens?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
It feels like a viper's nest in there, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
It really does.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
It doesn't feel good.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Way too much estrogen in there.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Say Bonnie Jansen.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
Credit to her, she's been running around harassing people left,
right and center, making all the moves.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
So harassing them consensually. They spoke to her so they
didn't hate it nicely. But MCL injury for Jordi Barrett
sounds quite serious.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Any injury to your knee is quite serious, isn't Although
cameroy guard's on his way back, looks like you've been
joining the camp after blowing his peteller.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
I think it was on craps.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
So no MCL for Jordi four to eight weeks, nothing
official yet, but he won't be around, but it's gonna
be what not a month before they head on tour,
so got a while to see what they can do
with that.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Sorely missed.

Speaker 7 (11:14):
He's been one of the better players in the back line,
more consistent and reliable players in the back line.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
And also it's his home test.

Speaker 7 (11:22):
You know, he knows how to carve off the meters
at Wellington, So it's a bit sad. I don't see
them making massive changes in the midfield. I really don't.
Billy Proctor is hanging around as a center. Maybe he
comes on the bench, I think, but I don't think
they're going to move Rico Yuani. You don't want that
much distraction in the midfield, especially when you're first five eight,

(11:45):
still trying to work out which ways up.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I mean, oh Jesus.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Sorry, you don't need that distraction. You don't.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
We're going to miss Jordi Barrett. Now that we realize
the Wallabies are actually a great squad, I wouldn't call.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Them a great squad. I wouldn't got them going.

Speaker 7 (11:57):
I'll tell you what now, what they're doing, mister Wallabies
are doing like the rest of the world.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
They're going, oh wow, the unbeatable all Blacks are. They're amazing.
I just let them score twenty points in the first
twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
We'll rub them down on me.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
It doesn't matter. So I know that now, Yeah, and
the All.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Blacks know that. People know that, they know that.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
They're all freaking out about it.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
When it gets it makes so much more interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Hey, Darcy, thank you appreciate it. It's Darcy Wardgrove, hosts
of Sports Talk seven o'clock this evening for twenty two.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's hither Duper c Allen Drive with one New Zealand
let's get connected and news talks.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
That'd be well.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Katy Perry is finding herself in one of those awkward positions,
especially at her rage that she has been already by
the looks of things, she would she's she's doing the AFL.
Is it like the Grand Finals halftime entertainment or something
like that, And they've told her in no uncertain terms,
they only want her bangers, and she wants to perform
some tunes out of her new album. But her new

(12:55):
album frankly sucks according to the critics, and so the
AFL like, no, we don't want your sucky songs, want
your awesome songs. Anyway, loggerheads, we'll talk to Murray Old's
about it when he rather is with us in the
next half hour. It's full twenty five. I am sorry
to tell you this, but just when we thought that
Tory Farno had done her worst and that was the

(13:18):
end of that thing, it's not. There's more. So it
turns out that straight after she filmed that interview with
Jack Taymee for Q and A, which was a train wreck,
she went onto a podcast immediately afterwards. That's a wise
thing to do, isn't it. I Mean, when you've had
an absolute train wreck of an interview, the best thing
to do after that is go and give another go
and give another interview. And Tory makes brilliant decisions. So

(13:38):
that's what she did. And when she was on the podcast,
she talked about the interview that was a train wreck
and how it didn't go well with Jack.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
I think I was just exhausted. I let my guard
down and then it just sort of, you know, usually
just takes one moment, one mistake, and then it all
goes downhill from there, which is what happened.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Yeah, but Tory would know about that. Tory would know
that it usually just takes one moment, because she has
had quite a few of those. She explains why it
was that she told us that she'd sold her car
to pay the bills, when she hadn't actually sold her
car to pay the bills. It was a slip up.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
When I make little slip ups about selling my car,
which is so unintentional. I just I do beat myself
up a little bit about that, because silly little mistakes
really really disappoint me.

Speaker 9 (14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
I don't know about you, but I often find myself
just sort of slipping up and telling complete lies. Do
you do that too, Just just tell people things. It's
just a slip up. I often just it just comes
out of my mouth, lit out of come, what a
slip up? No, that's not true at all. I didn't
even do that. How weird? Is that unbelievably? She also
says she didn't expect to be in the public eye
as much as she has been.

Speaker 8 (14:48):
I kind of thought that mayors sort of flew under
the radar a lot more, which is kind of why
I went for counsel in the first place.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
I mean, obviously, a lot of the reason why Tory
is in the media because she's drawing media attention to herself.
She's the second most famous mayor in the country. It's
Wayne Brown and then her wayn Brown, because he runs
the biggest place. HER's because she's just a moron. And
you will not believe this. You will not believe this.
But in the podcast she made another slip up. She
was talking about the Maori Woods referendum and the cost

(15:17):
of it, and she seemed to suggest that she was
open to breaking the law and just completely ignoring the
central government's instruction to hold a referendum.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
We've been told, well, that's essentially breaking the law. That
might be a fine, and we're like, well, what's the fine?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Right, So this afternoon the Council had to clarify that statement.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Because of course it did.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Her office said the mayor was not inferring that we
should disregard the change's handed down from central government, except
that is exactly what she was doing. Lord, can they
make it Tory, stop giving interviews for the love of God,
still want to run for mayor next time? Actually keep
giving interviews because then hopefully it won't happen.

Speaker 10 (15:56):
Headlines Next, the day's newsmakers talk to Heather first.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Heather duplicy Allen drive with one New Zealand Let's get
connected news talk z be.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Sill, bregod.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Baby blame Wow.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Cory Fano slips up so spectacularly while sober. Imagine what
she could do for Wellington while she was drunk.

Speaker 11 (16:29):
Woo gin.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
That is probably part of the reason why she's off
the gin Actually is because it's quite a ride when
we're sober. We don't need anything added to that. Mixed
by the looks of things. Speaking of errand Greens, because
don't forget Tory is a member of that party. The
Green Party held a press conference that at twelve thirty
and announced theyre going to hold another meeting to vote

(16:53):
on whether they should kick Darleen out of Parliament. The
meeting will be held on the seventeenth of October. So
what is that. That's about three weeks away or thereabout.
So I've got three weeks to try to lobby and
I really strongly suspect that is what's going to be
happening in the three weeks time, because I just am
not convinced that they've got that they are that they
are convinced that they've got the seventy five percent that

(17:15):
they need to be able to kick her out. We're
going to talk to Chloe Swarbrick about that after half
past five, and Barry Sober will cover it off. I'm
sure in about ten minutes time. Murriol's is standing by.
It's twenty three away from five.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
It's the world wires on news talks. He'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Tensions are high in the Middle East as Israel went
on the offensive against Lebanon again last night. Here's being you,
Minette Yahu's message to people in Lebanon.

Speaker 12 (17:37):
I urge you take this warning seriously. Don't let his
bala in danger your lives and the lives of your
loved ones. Don't let his balla in danger. Lebanon, Please
get out of harm's way now. Once our operation is finished,
you can come back safely to your homes now.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Following that warning, the carnage then came.

Speaker 13 (17:57):
In a display of power and milit herry might. The
Israelis unleashed a massive aerial bombardment targeting ammunition and infrastructure
belonging to Hezbolla.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
To the US, where Trump has been attempting to woo
the female voters.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
This I always thought women liked me.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I never thought I had a problem.

Speaker 14 (18:18):
But the fake news keep saying women don't like me.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I don't believe that. You know why.

Speaker 14 (18:21):
They like to have strong borders.

Speaker 15 (18:24):
They like to have safety, nothing personal.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I think they like me.

Speaker 11 (18:27):
I love you too because I am your protector.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I want to be your protector.

Speaker 16 (18:32):
As president, I have to be your protector.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh dear God. And then he went after the illegal
migrants again.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Do you think Springfield will ever be the same.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
I don't think.

Speaker 16 (18:40):
The fact is, and I'll say it now, you have
to get them the hell out there.

Speaker 14 (18:45):
You're going to take in some murderers and things, and
you'll put them on the planes and the buses, and
you're going to start doing it.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
And finally, Spanish police have a risted five people over
a fake breadpit scam, accused of scamming two women out
of over five hundred thousand dollars. Now, what happened is
that the suspects made contact with the contact with the
women on the internet page for fans of Brad Pitt,
and then led them to believe that they had a

(19:12):
sentimental relationship with brad Pitt. The members of the gang
then allegedly encouraged the women to invest because they were
pretending to be Brad Pitt in various projects that did
not exist.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
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Speaker 3 (19:30):
Murray Old's Australia correspondent hems.

Speaker 17 (19:33):
Very good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Do you have that fair enough? If these guys at
the AFL are paying the bills, they get to demand
what Katie sings?

Speaker 18 (19:39):
No, oh god, bus Yeah. I mean look, it was
a bit of a sort of a mind. Look, it's
not like Taita. She's not like Taylor Swift. She's like
b Grade.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Now.

Speaker 17 (19:49):
Anyway, they were all wetting themselves down in Melbourne. We've
got Coty Prairie with a grad final. Well, Katy Perry said, look,
I'd like to do a couple of new songs.

Speaker 18 (19:58):
Oh no, so the old suits at the AFL, you
can't do any new stuff. We want the old songs
like Raw and we want teenage dream and firework. Well
I went and had to listen this morning because I
knew they wanted to mention it.

Speaker 17 (20:11):
And I know one song that.

Speaker 18 (20:13):
Raw you hear me raw O great pop songs, but
every other song sounds exactly the same.

Speaker 17 (20:21):
Is that blasphemous to say?

Speaker 18 (20:22):
That God Almighty as you can sing any song, it
all sounds the same.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yes, I mean I can see how you would come
to that conclusion, Muzzle, But the fact of the matter
is they are not all the same. Some of them.
No they I mean, look, you and I probably sit
on the same place with our views on Katie Perry's
musical ability. But some of her songs. But if you
can believe it, the songs on the new album are
even particularly more shite than the last one. So we

(20:47):
don't want it.

Speaker 17 (20:51):
Oh, I love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
That's fair. I mean, if they're paying the good money,
they get to decide, don't they.

Speaker 18 (20:56):
I guess so, I mean yeah, I mean they've hired
of a seven sing seven songs and a half times.

Speaker 17 (21:01):
She's probably going to get a couple of million dollars.

Speaker 18 (21:03):
Yeah, so she's she's doing a bit better than my band,
Rocking Horse.

Speaker 17 (21:07):
I can assure you. Yeah, I played drums and.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Sing, do you I did?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Hold?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Are you the lead singer from behind the drums?

Speaker 18 (21:15):
Well, when our female singer turns up, she's the lead singer.

Speaker 17 (21:19):
When she doesn't turn up, when she gets hammered, I.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Am that's that is a hard job because you can,
like the drumming is already quite a physical exertion without
then having to actually project your voice.

Speaker 17 (21:29):
Oh it's all right, mate, I can just.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Give us a give us a sample. What do you
sound like when you.

Speaker 18 (21:35):
Sing A pull in the Nazareth was feeling about a
half past.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I'll tell you what. If Katie doesn't want to do it,
you should do it. It's not a bad muss. I'd
come and see you very good.

Speaker 16 (21:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
What about the reserve banks? And they've decided to hold
the interest rates? Have they?

Speaker 18 (21:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (21:52):
They have?

Speaker 17 (21:52):
What's at four point three five?

Speaker 18 (21:54):
It's been that way for nearly four years last interest
rate cut. Ten months since the last rate move though,
so it's being held steady. There was a bit of
speculation obviously, on the back of what the US Central
Bank did last week. Now, of course the big half
a percent interest rate cut, but the Reserve Bank.

Speaker 17 (22:13):
Holding firm here.

Speaker 18 (22:14):
It's not gonna move no matter how much it gets
bullied by the government and bullied by the opposition and
bully by the Greens.

Speaker 17 (22:20):
The Reserve Bank is saying, bug her off. We are independent.

Speaker 18 (22:24):
We will decide when it's appropriate to cut interest rates.
So I mean, if they thought Michelle Bullock was going
to be a pushover, think again, boys, and they're all
boys and suits. This woman is eminently capable and she's
more obviously tough enough to hold her own.

Speaker 17 (22:39):
So no cut.

Speaker 18 (22:40):
And what economists are now suggesting here that it's not
going to be until early next year when rates come
down in Australia.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, okay, I think we can believe that. Hey listen, okay,
So it's not the first time that Ozzie's have got
into the super funds to pay for cosmetic stuff like
teeth and boobs and stuff. But apparently you guys are
ramping this up.

Speaker 18 (22:56):
Why because they want to, you know, look nice now
and don't worry about it when I'm old and gray.
Eight hundred million dollars was taken out of superannuation accounts
last year, according to the Australian Tax Office, eight hundred
million to play for, you know, to pay for things
like bigger breasts, smaller breasts, you know, possibly white teeth,

(23:16):
looks like the Southern Alps marching across your face, and
I mean, hello, eight hundred and here's the stat that
came out from the ATO. You take twenty k out
of your super account when you're forty. That's one hundred
thousand dollars you're going to miss out on at sixty
five when you retire. Now, do you really want to
have that brilliant smile and bigger breasts?

Speaker 17 (23:37):
Now?

Speaker 18 (23:38):
I guess many people do, because eight hundred million dollars
is not small change.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Maz, what about this is an idea though, because there's
there is There are some photographs of these people with
fixed up faces, and I'll tell you what they look.
They look amazing, And I reckon you could actually earn
more with those pearlers than if you had a bunch
of sort of jaggedy teeth, don't you think.

Speaker 18 (23:55):
But if you're still a bogan or a bozo, you can't.
But he tie your shoe lacers up, don't matter how
good your smile is.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Really no, you make a very good point. Actually you
are right, Marz. Thank you very much appreciated. And that
was actually excellent sing And that's mury Oult's Australia correspondent.
Go on, then have the rule. I mean, that's not

(24:22):
bad a like, that's that's the kind of stuff you
want to hear from. Katy. Okay, thank you for I
have no comment on Katie, actually no comment whatsoever. She's
done very well and good for her. She's done very
well peddling this nonsense and good for her, very Soper
next sixteen Away from five.

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Speaker 6 (24:47):
Hey, Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Okay, So I see Luxon went read in the face
when he was asked about Andy Coulstat.

Speaker 11 (24:54):
Well, yes, he wasn't quite about to announce the Social
Investment Agency new head of it.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Also he had had this actually got ahead of itself.

Speaker 11 (25:05):
Well, yeah, what happened was the press or release was
issued about the same time that Christopher Luxen was speaking
to journalists yes on his way into caucus, and he
didn't realize clearly that it had been released. And then
push part way through, he was told, well, we've already
got a copy of the release. So that made him
a but red face. I think he was sort of

(25:26):
caught on the hop on that one. But Andy Coser
is really interesting to me because I remember all the
brew haha at the time when he was appointed over
others like Mike Clement, a hard nosed old kop at
the time by Desin dar Dun because the Prime Minister,
along with the Minister of Police, but the Prime Minister
has the final say on who the commissioner is and

(25:49):
this was sort of out of left field if you
like Andy Coster taking the job and he's been the subject,
as we all know, of much criticism and Bridges you
remember the Strikeforce rapt up Man when he was the
head of the National Party, he described him as a
woke Commissioner of Police, which is pretty unusual for a

(26:11):
politician of that elk to do that. But I've got
to say Chris Luxon wouldn't hear an ill spoken word
against Commissioner Costa and was quite defensive of the outgoing
cops record.

Speaker 19 (26:23):
I'm the leader of the National Party and I just
say to you, when we came to power, mart Mitchell
wrote a lovely four page Leader of Expectations and he's
on an exceptionally good job for us. I'm very proud
of think he's an exceptional good job. Now he's done
a really good job. You might want to be little
at with those sort of questions, but the point is, well,
I'm not Simon Bridges. If you have noticed I'm the
leader of Chris Luck's and the leader of the National

(26:44):
Party promise for resilient.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Somebody pointed this out to me. It might have been Yeah,
I realized who it was actually pointed out to me yesterday.
He's getting quite shirty with the media.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Aim.

Speaker 11 (26:55):
Yes, and it's a bit of pushback. And I think
it's probably time that luck and did that because he's
been too placid up until now. And look at all
Winston Peter has taken a leaf out of his book.
I mean, he's not lost nothing in the way he
treats the media if they get annoyed. I remember old
Jerry Browne once and Paddy Goal would remember this.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Paddy wrote some.

Speaker 11 (27:18):
Stories that Jerry wasn't all broadcast some stories that Jerry
wasn't happy about it.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
Jerry literally refused to speak to.

Speaker 11 (27:25):
Him when he came across for bridge runs and normally
politicians speak to everyone.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Hey, is Takuta Ferris in trouble tomorrow?

Speaker 9 (27:32):
Well?

Speaker 11 (27:32):
Yes, remember last week the Mauldi party Fairis accused his
parliamentary colleagues of being liars. Then in the next breath
he told one himself.

Speaker 17 (27:43):
Here he is to remind.

Speaker 20 (27:44):
You lies in other words, many in this House are
masters of it, and it is a disservice to those
who voted you into your positions.

Speaker 16 (27:52):
He made the allegation that members of his parliament liars.
He should have been stopped in the tracks right then.
My apologies, I didn't quite pick that up. But if
that is what the members said, then he should withdraw
and apologize as quickly as possible.

Speaker 9 (28:04):
I haven't made that statement.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
Ha ha ha.

Speaker 11 (28:06):
Well, you know Parliament has forgotten that he did make
that statement, and I believe there'll be more about it tomorrow.
He's got to set the record straight the privileges. He's
had a privileges complaint laid against him, and he's gotten
until midday tomorrow to respond to that complaint, presumably apologized

(28:27):
to the House in the afternoon.

Speaker 17 (28:28):
If he doesn't do that.

Speaker 11 (28:29):
Then it's over to the Speaker and Jerry Brownlee I
think would probably be of a mind to send him
to the Privileges Committee.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Karen Saw, Oh, well, this was a.

Speaker 11 (28:38):
Great piece from carent Sure I felt today now everybody
knows that the Children's Commissioner, she was herself a foster child,
and she left no one in any doubt about how
she feels about children coming under the care of a
runga tamareki. Chure was being questioned by the Greens Kahrangi
Kata about tracted services being cut to a rung tamariki,

(29:03):
but she was passionate to say the least.

Speaker 21 (29:05):
Children do come to the attention of ding a timodicqi
when those who are supposed to care for them have failed,
and auto atomitickey has to come in at a child's
worst moment and actually make sure that they are taken
care of. It is disgusting that auto atimitickey has to exist.
People need to step up and start taking care.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
Of their children.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Here here, Yeah, a lot of people will agree with that. Hey,
do you think the Greens are doing the right things
thing taking us to.

Speaker 11 (29:29):
A meeting, Well, it's got the potential of dragging it
out even longer that you imagine. They've now put down
October the seventeen, when they'll all get together at sex
thirty at night or their delegates will and decide whether
they will enact the Wrocker jumping legislation. Well, in the meantime,
of course, Darlene Tanna could play the mat in the
game again.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
And appeal the decision, So this could go.

Speaker 17 (29:52):
On and on and on.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, interesting, And I said, the part of me hopes
it does because.

Speaker 11 (29:57):
It's well you just like you, just like seeing so
somebody being an irritant.

Speaker 22 (30:03):
If you pick it, you.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Got to live with a thank you, Barrier. I appreciate
it very so. For senior political correspondent eight away from five.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Putting the time questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Crystal luckxin's with us?

Speaker 15 (30:14):
Have you read the Supreme Court's order around the Murray
Coastline appeal and how you now have to pay in
advance for their fees?

Speaker 9 (30:21):
Yeah, I'm aware of it.

Speaker 17 (30:22):
What hell's that about?

Speaker 9 (30:22):
Station?

Speaker 19 (30:23):
All we're doing on the MACA legislation is returning it
to what Parliament intended, as we said, he.

Speaker 15 (30:27):
But they don't like that a court in this country
is now telling the government, which is the ultimate court, to.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Pay money in advance.

Speaker 9 (30:33):
And how you run your what I mean, come on,
we have to respect the judiciary.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
We do, even when.

Speaker 15 (30:38):
They're just so egregiously invasive an activist, it's laughable.

Speaker 19 (30:43):
Well, all I can do, Mike, as I say, Lot,
we had the balance right in twenty level with the
legislation that it's not right.

Speaker 23 (30:48):
Now, we're returning it back today.

Speaker 15 (30:49):
Back tomorrow at six am. The Mic Hosking Breakfast with
the Jaguar FPAs used talk z B.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Hither. I don't know why, but I'm liking that Luckxson's
getting more grumpy with the media. Hither. I agree with
barryt's time that the Prime Minister stopped pandering to the
media the childish and vindictive. I enjoyed Barry's comments on
it tonight. Look, here's there is a line on this
to walk like. He should push back, but he should
only push back so much because if you don't push back,

(31:15):
because what was going on before was at the press gallery,
which is super hostile, which is berating luxon and because
he was absorbing it all, he just looked weak. He
looked like he was weak and sort of being bullied
by a bunch of children. That's not a good look.
But then if you take it too far and you're
too shirty, then you start to look defensive and like
you're under too much pressure. And so there's a kind

(31:35):
of like line that he needs to walk on this
where he pushes back firmly and tells them cut the crap, basically,
but without looking like he's the one who's actually losing
his mind here. So you know, I just am not
convinced he's striking that balance just yet. But hey, let's
see how it plays out over time. Anthony Albanize, he's
just announced that he is not going to get held, sorry,

(31:58):
not going to get married before the next federal election.
The next federal election is due by May next year,
and there had been speculation he would, you know, get
married in advance and then get a little bit publicity blip.
Everybody loves, you know, a couple of boomers getting married
to each other ahead of an election's great. Look, you know, yay,
happy happy days. Now I want to vote for him
because he's made an honest woman at her all that

(32:18):
kind of stuff. But now, no, apparently he doesn't have
time in his diary. And the reason he doesn't have
time in his diary is because he's got a hell
of a fight on his hands, isn't he He's going
to have to focus. There's no time. There's no time
for a honeymoon or planning wedding stuff. And you know
how women are, We're all like, do you want the
bows around the chairs to be purple or pink and
we'll just not cope with that while losing an election.

(32:40):
So fair enough. Now we're going to talk to Mike
Mitchell next about the Sandy Costa business because obviously obviously
they've given him a job to get him out of
the other job, because they were like, you've got to
get out of the police commissioner's job. This is not working.
We'll put that to Mark when he's with us. Shortly,
Jeffrey Miller, foreign policy analyst, is going to talk us
through what's going on in the Middle East with the

(33:01):
air strikes on Lebanon. It's pretty clear we're getting much
much closer to full on war. And then also looks
like fire guys in Christchurch have managed to figure out
where the Porthill's fire on Valentine's Day this year started.
They found the house, they found the specific place it started.
We'll have a chat to them shortly. News Talks AB.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers by the fact and give the analysis.
Heather due to Celan Drive with One New Zealand. Let's
get connected and News Talk as the'd be.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Afternoon, Andrew Costa has resigned as the Police Commissioner. He
will finish up with the Police in November and then
take up a new role as the boss of the
new Social Investment Agency. Now Mark Mitchell is the Police Minister. Mitch, Hello, Hi, Heather.
Is this what it looks like? You know what it
looks It looks like it looks like you guys have
done a deal with him to quit. Found him a

(33:58):
nice job to replace the job you want him out of.

Speaker 24 (34:02):
No, not at all. I mean, obviously Nicholas is forming
the Social Investment Agency because that's a critical that's a
cornerstone for us. Us actually is in government, is to
start to deal with all these really difficult intergenerational social
issues that we need to deal with as a country.
The Social Investment Agency's got a big role to play.

(34:22):
And I think that, you know, Andy Costa, when you
look at his background and his experience, he's the perfect
fit for that role.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Look, I know you're not you're not going to agree
with me because you can't. But he wasn't that good
as the Police commissioner, So why would he be good
at this job?

Speaker 24 (34:39):
Well, he was, in all fairness to the commissioner is
a change with a changing Obviously, in opposition, we felt
like labor had completely taken us in the wrong direction
in terms of public safety, and they had without a doubt.
We've gone backwards on every measure. There's a lot of
work to do. We're slowly starting to turn that around. However,
in all fairness to the Commissioner, he had to serve

(35:00):
the government of the day as the incoming national government,
as the incoming minister.

Speaker 23 (35:04):
I sent out.

Speaker 24 (35:05):
A leader of expectation.

Speaker 9 (35:07):
I released that publicly.

Speaker 24 (35:08):
It was very clear in terms of what I wanted done,
and he has responded to that. So in all fenus
there's been a real change in the way that gang
convoys or police. We haven't had any of our provincial
or rural towns taken over by gangs. They've been hammering
and doing running operations against the boy racers. We're really
getting stuck into the retail crime. There's been a big
increase in police presence through beat patrols. You know, every

(35:32):
single common chero in the country's got currently facing charges.
So he has actually responded well to that letter of expectation.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, I kind of feel like this is more of
his Wheelhouse like the way that he approaches crime, this
is where he needs to be, he might actually.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Listen.

Speaker 24 (35:50):
I agree with you entirely, and I think that when
you know, I worked with him when he was Deputy
CEO IT Justice and ized the Associate Minister of Justice
in the last National government, very good in that role.
You know, I've enjoyed working with them in my role
as Police Minister, and I enjoy and I'll enjoy working
with him this role.

Speaker 9 (36:07):
But I agree with you.

Speaker 24 (36:07):
I think that he's got the strategic sort of oversight
in terms of what we need to do, but he's
also very much in tune with the operational stuff and
the stuff, you know, the front line stuff, and an
understanding of where we need to target our resources and
efforts and in terms of getting stuck at and starting
to deal with some of the intergenerational art that we
see in this country.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
So who are you going to pick? Gevin mcskimming or
Richard Chambers.

Speaker 24 (36:30):
I will that'll be interesting to see who puts their
name forward, but you know, we're all obviously the Public
Services Commission runs the process. It'll be a fair process
and we'll see who emerges from that.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Mitch thank you really appreciate your time. This make much
all the police Minister. So apparently it's a two horse
races is according to the Herald, between Deputy Commissioner Gevin
mc skinning and Assistant Commissioner Richard Chambers. And I'll run
you through those boys details when I get a chances
to eleven passed five escalation in the Middle East overnight
with Israeli air strikes on Lebanon killing around five hundred

(37:04):
people and thirty five of them were kids, and a
whole bunch more thousands were injured. Israel attacked hundreds of
Hezbola weapons storage facilities, leading them to the deadliest day
since the Civil War in nineteen ninety. Now. Jeffrey Miller
is a geopolitical analyst.

Speaker 25 (37:17):
Hey, Jeffrey, good evening, Heather.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Is it inevitable that they are headed for a full
scale war?

Speaker 25 (37:23):
Look, I think we've been heading this way since October
the seventh last year, October the eighth, when the first
air strikes from Lebanon really began, the rocket attacks from Lebanon,
And you know, unfortunately, there has been a level of
inevitability about this, and this just takes up a notch
further though. I mean, it's a huge death toll in

(37:44):
a single day, almost five hundred people killed. You know,
to put that in context, in the entire thirty four
day war back in two thousand and six between Israel
than Lebanon, thirteen hundred Lebanese individuals were killed.

Speaker 23 (37:57):
So we're already at a third of that on more
more than a third in just a single day.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
What happens next? Do you think that there's retaliation?

Speaker 25 (38:05):
Look, we've been waiting for retaliation since July really when
the Habela commander for Sugar was killed. Israel killed another
one last week in the aftermath of those Paiterer attacks.
I mean, there's plenty of reasons for retaliation from his
and from Iran directly, and I think there are various
plans that are being made, but yet they're unable to

(38:28):
carry them out. Israel has very very good intelligence. Clearly
they conducted thirteen hundred strikes yesterday, or they attacked thirteen
hundred targets. I should say they've got very good intelligence.
They know what they're looking for, and as we saw
last week with those pager attacks, they're not afraid now
to the audacious. So I don't think it's through a

(38:49):
lack of a lack of desire that his Bila.

Speaker 23 (38:56):
Is not responding to what Israel is doing here.

Speaker 25 (38:59):
But they're just being fowled at every turn, and I
think that's preps the risk here for Israel in the
end his BLA, if they keept trying, they will probably
break through and then we end up with the all
out war between Israel and his BLA that we've been
trying to avoid. So I think dangerous times ahead.

Speaker 23 (39:16):
It does seem all very ominous.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
It already is bad.

Speaker 23 (39:19):
It is a very bad situation.

Speaker 25 (39:21):
It could only get worse. And I think we also
need to remember that his Bela is not Hermas. Hisbela
is very very well armed, very very well capable. They're
much closer to Iran by the virtue of being a
sheer group. They've got fifty thousand fighters, one hundred and
fifty thousand rockets, and they're more They're better armed than
many many governments, many states are in the Middle East.

Speaker 23 (39:43):
So it's a different kettle of fish here.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, altogether, Hey, thank you very much, Jeffrey appreciated. Jeffrey Miller,
geopolitical analyst.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Whatever dul either.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
I've got a mate who looks after property for a
government department who moved into new premises on the first
of July. So what's that August September, so coming up
three months, still has twenty six access cards not collected
by people who haven't been in once yet. So get
those lazy civil servants back to work, Jews. I'm here
for that.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Al.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
I love that this thing has got some legs. Remember
last week we were just like, do you know what,
they should go back to work? And this week what's happened.
They're going back to work. Happy days Now he want
some economic growth, Go to Gisbon. That's where it's at.
ASB has just released its latest regional Economic scorecard, and
this basically ranks regions based on their annual growth and
employment and they're building consents and their retail sales and

(40:30):
so on. And for the last quarter, which is the
three months to June, it's been mostly bleak across the board,
but Gisbon is awesome. Its construction consents are up forty
one percent year on year, house sales growth second highest
in the country, up twenty six percent, and this is
obviously because of the rebuilt after cyclone. Gabrielle took the
spot in the top spot in the country for the

(40:50):
first time in four years. Auckland is ninth equal big mortgages.
That's the problem. That's why Auckland has a hit harder
by the high interest rates. Wellington is the fourteenth equal
sector carts plus everything else is really hit them. Regions
who have dairy and them. They are going to be
doing well in the next wee while and next year
is looking good, says ASB because of the easing inflation
pressure by the end of the year. Some good news

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two sixty six two Ever past five fire investigators reckon
they found the exact spot where the Porthills fire started

(42:36):
in February this year. You'll remember it. It burned for
about three weeks one hundred households were evacuated. It burned
through six hundred fifty hectares day. Excuse me, Dave Stackhouse
is fire an emergencies district commander and with us. Hey, Dave,
good evening, Well, thank you. So where did it start?

Speaker 9 (42:54):
Me?

Speaker 26 (42:54):
As I said, it's started fifteen meters from Worsley's there
into an area of five meters by five meters. So
we've tracked down the point of origin. But unfortunately the
point of origin of the fire is on private property,
so we aren't disclosing the exact location.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah, and the person who owns the property is actually
working with you guys, right, they're not a suspect, that's correct.

Speaker 26 (43:19):
We interviewed the property owner three times and he was
cooperative throughout the entire investigation and.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
No idea what started it.

Speaker 26 (43:28):
It's just the investigators worked pretty hard obviously there. You know,
we understand the public interest in this fire is with
all of our investigations, but we have to have enough
evidence to satisfy a removal of all the ignition factors,
and we're looking for that positive ignition factor and we
weren't able to determine it in this case.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Property owner has no idea.

Speaker 26 (43:52):
He was on scene at the time or just prior
to the ignition, then realized there was a fire there
when he saw it one on one, so he did
the right thing. And as I said, he's cooperated with
the New Zealand Police and Foreign Emergency during the investigation.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Dave, is it a part of the property that other
people can access?

Speaker 9 (44:11):
You know?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Can you walk off the road onto the property or
something like that?

Speaker 26 (44:15):
Where's the tracks? Quite well, all the tracks around the
portals are widely used the mountain bikers and walking and
running tracks, So where's the track and road as widely
used by the public throughout the year.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
So am I right in thinking this is the end
of the investigation. You've taken it as far as you can.
If there's more info, you'll take another look at it.

Speaker 26 (44:36):
Yeah, well, we've said as the classified is undetermined, but
if further evidence comes to light, New Zealand Police and
Foreign Emergency will reopen it and examine that evidence and
see what comes from that good stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Hey, Dave, thanks very much and hopefully something does come
to like this, Dave Stackhouse. The District Commander Fire and Emergency,
Chloe Swarbrick, is going to be with us in fifteen minutes.
I'm dying to ask her whether she actually I think
she's got the seventy five percent to kick Darlene out.
So bearwith we'll get there shortly five to twenty one.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
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Speaker 3 (45:14):
It's three four past five. Listen. There's been a fair
bit of speculation around the place in the last day
or so as to where the Madison Ashton, who is
the Hooker mistress, would have changed the jury's decision in
the Philip Polkinghorn trial had she appeared. And the answer
is obviously no. I mean suggesting anything otherwise is just
mischief making, isn't it. So the fact is that Madison

(45:35):
Ashton is what you would call an unreliable witness, and
that is a polite way of describing the woman. There
are people in the world who are straight up and
down right and when if they sat in front of
a jury, the jury would believe every single word that
came out of their mouths. And then there are others
who are jury I would venture would struggle to believe
or take seriously, and unfortunately for Madison Ashton, I think

(45:56):
she's one of them. Just have a look at what
she's been telling the newspaper in the last day or so.
First of all, she refused to appear in court, she says,
because she felt the police had disrespected her. I mean,
can you believe the gaul of it. It's not a
quiz show appearance. It's a murder trial. It's one of
the most serious charges that a society can level at someone.

(46:17):
And Madison doesn't want to turn up because the boys
in Blue hurt her feelings. Give me a break. And
then she says that she was very serious about the
whole thing, praying for a guilty verdict, but the cops
watched the trial because they didn't take her seriously and
didn't use her to wear a wire right, which suggests
she cares deeply. But then when they do come to
her and give her a summons and ask her for
help by appearing in courts, suddenly she doesn't appear that much,

(46:38):
and she goes on Hollybops in Europe, and then and
then she claims that she and Philip Pulkinhorn were going
to get married and have children. The woman is forty nine.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I mean, come.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Off it, lady. That's not a believable story, is it? Honestly?
Based on what she said to the media that has
been published, I don't feel like she have changed the
outcome of that trial at all. I feel like the
jury would have sat there and listened to her and
just disregarded a whole bunch of stuff, don't you think.
And I can't help but feel that what she's doing
right now, which is to talk to everybody like didn't

(47:12):
want to talk to the jury, the most important eleven
people in this whole thing, we're happy to talk to
everybody else right now, is self serving, isn't it. I mean,
tell you what, running yourself a little private business? How
about this for some free pr.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Heather do for ce Ellen Heather.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
From a cops point of view, Richard Chambers all the
way hither as a current police officer over twenty years
frontline service, it has got to be Richard Chambers here
the cost and may have mixed feelings about departing, but
I can tell you the frontline definitely doesn't. This is
great news. I would have absolutely believe it. I think
Richard Chambers may be the dude he's been. It was
Richard and who was it? It was somebody else, wasn't it?

(47:48):
Who was in the running? I can't remember the other
Chap's name for a little while there, and then they
both went off. Oh it was a lady I think actually,
to be fair, and then the two of them went
off and off. It took a Sue. Was it Sue Schwalga? Laura?
Was that who it was? Anyway? It was the two
of their names. I think it was Sue. Two of
them went off on international postings, and he's the only

(48:10):
one who He's still at Interpol, but he is still
in the mix. And so you've got to say that
you feel like Richard is the guy probably going to
get the job. He's got a lot of frontline experience,
a lot of experience in the field, and I feel
I feel like the boys in Blue need that, do
you know what I mean? After what they've just been through.
Either should I grab one or two bottles of dressing

(48:30):
for Chloe's word salad? Heither don't let Chloe just regurgitated
word salad? Ask for yes or no answers? Thank you guys,
I mean, jeez, you know, okay, Boomer, Yeah, don't make
it too hard for me. It's hard enough. Headlines next.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home. Heather duper c Allen
drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news
talk because they'd be.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Ye understanding by after six o'clock. We're gonna have a
chat to the FMA because we have had a milestone
with the key. We save her investments one hundred billion dollars.

(49:22):
We've topped for the first time in New Zealand, which
is awesome. We're playing with the big boys now, so
we'll find out all about that hither. I can't believe
that Madison Ashton's previous relationship with the billionaire Richard Pratt.
Pratt hasn't been mentioned. It's about fifteen years ago. Court
case Baby, big scandal in Australia. That's right, if you
google her. She's not just famous in New Zealand, she's
famous in Australia as well. That lady is Yeah, she's

(49:46):
got a profile. Twenty four away from six now in
the never ending Darlene Saga, the Greens have now set
a new date for party members to decide whether they're
going to boot her out of Parliament or not going
to hold a meet in October seventeen. Chloe Swarbrick is
the Greens co leader. Hey, Chloe Kilder, how are you
very well? Thank you? Do you reckon? You've got the numbers,
if you've got the seventy five percent support amongst the
delegates to kick around.

Speaker 27 (50:07):
I am incredibly confident in the wisdom of our party
and that's part of the reason that we've also set
the stage with the opportunity for our members to properly
deliberate on a number of pieces of information, noticiably what's
transpired in the last month or so, and to come
to a well considered opinion.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yes, so you've got confidence in the wisdom of the party,
but does that mean that you've got confidence you've got
seventy five percent?

Speaker 27 (50:30):
Look again, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here.
We are very proud. I'm sure you have had many
Green Party co leaders on your show over the last
few years saying that we're very proud of our internal democracy.
And look, I would to be completely straight up and
say that as at the best of times, we've demonstrated
democracy can be missy, but ultimately that means hearing from
everyone in the room and making sure that we move

(50:51):
forward together.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
As you know what they say, you never call you
never call for a vote unless you know you're going
to win a day, So you might be making a
mistake here.

Speaker 27 (50:58):
Are you're looking at Sunsu out of or aren't you Look?
What we've said is that we very clearly as a
caucus and we haven't come to the position lightly is
based on that independent expert investigation into the facts and
the behavior of d'arlan Tana that we very clearly have
come to the conclusion that she is not fit to
be a member of parliament, and we have moved forward

(51:19):
to put that recommendation to our party to reconcile. Actually
with an unprecedented situation, we have never been in a
situation before where we have had somebody who has been
elected on the Green Party list who we have come
to the conclusion is unfit to be a member of parliament,
yet is intent on sticking around.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
If your delegates do say yes, how fast can you
remove her?

Speaker 27 (51:40):
So, as I understand the legislation as it presently sits,
is that subsequence to that SGM and our delegates giving
that endorsement. If that were should be the case, then
we would write a letter to the speaker. And actually
the legislation is relatively silent on how quickly the Speaker
would then need to move, but that would sit within
his discretion, and as I understand it, things could move

(52:01):
relatively quickly, especially given that Darlene has already resigned herself
as a member of the Green Party.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
And then what do you think she's going to do.
Is she's just going to take this one lying down?
Or she challenged you again.

Speaker 27 (52:10):
Look, I've kind of given up on estimating what Darlene
Tana will do. What we've been focused on is consistently
continuing to perch our values at the forefront.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Of ye with integrity. You should be thinking about this
because this is her humans, because it's but this is
I this is making this makes you guys look like
idiots in public?

Speaker 27 (52:29):
Well I think you are.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I'm just saying she is making fools of You're in.

Speaker 27 (52:35):
You're entitled to your freedom of speech here. But look,
what I will say is that we have control over
what we have control over. And look, as I have
found in the last several years that I have been
doing this job, and the public arena, everyone is always
going to have an opinion on everything that you do.
The best that you can do is step with your
values at the forefront and act accordingly, and we have

(52:56):
consistently done that demonstrating and I think that it makes
it pretty clear on that independent investigation, our executive summary
that we put out there publicly as to why we
have come to that conclusion that Darlian Tanna is not
fit to be a member of Parliament, and we've simply
been asking for that accountability and that responsibility. And again
make the point here that if we were looking for
the best possible result, it would be for her to

(53:18):
take that accountability and responsibility and to resign herself. But
in lieu of doing that, we are stepping through the
motions and operating consistently and in line with our values.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Are you sure that you shouldn't just let this one go,
just leave her up there in siber area, because it
just you know, because this could just keep on dragging
on and making fools of you.

Speaker 27 (53:38):
Again, we have control over what we have ConTroll over,
and what we have control over is going back to
our party membership and saying, let's reconcile with this deeply
unusual and for the first time that we've ever been
confronted with this situation. A member of Parliament that was
elected on our list, noting three hundred and thirty thousand
New Zealanders across the country, voted the month's recent election

(53:58):
to give the Greens fifteen seats in Parliament to fight
for people and planet. We're now down one of those
seats and the vote that comes with that seat, but
also obviously the kind of proportionality of questions that are
afforded in the House, and also the likes of the
resources that we have to go out there.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Money to engagatically. Want your money back, Chloe had, Well,
how do you feel about the fact that there is
a wealthy Green Party donor backing her?

Speaker 27 (54:24):
I am not interested in really speculating on her. If
it's backing her, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
It show you that the party's divided on this.

Speaker 27 (54:32):
I think that you'll find in any given political party
that there'll be a difference of opinion, and you could
probably find one person on any given issue who will
disagree with whatever the leadership's up to. So I'm pretty
comfortable with that.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Thank you, Chloe, appreciate time. As always, It's Cloe Swawbrick,
Green Party co leader hear the Why doest Chloe think
an interview has a minimum word count? Nineteen away from six?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
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Speaker 3 (54:57):
I'll muddle with me this evening. Tim Wilson of the
Maximum Institute in Richard Hill's Auckland councilor hello you too, Cure.
Do you think Richard they should just give it up
because the old mates thinking about appealing?

Speaker 17 (55:09):
Oh?

Speaker 28 (55:10):
How annoying is this process? Just walk a jumper out
of here like.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
But they can't because democracy and it's the Greens I know.

Speaker 28 (55:18):
But what is she going to do for the next
two years? Sit there and just be in.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
The appeal and just reappeal and just reappeal.

Speaker 28 (55:25):
It seems ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah, but if you were in this and listen, you're
a politician, Yes, if you were in this position, what
would you do?

Speaker 6 (55:32):
Which position?

Speaker 3 (55:33):
This position where Darlene is screwing you in public?

Speaker 17 (55:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I would just if you were Chloe.

Speaker 28 (55:38):
Find a new lawyer to say they should not be
in parliament. I mean she's not in the Green Party anymore,
and people voted for the Green Party for MP's and
she's not.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
So would you so at this point you become slightly
dictatorial and you say, never mind democracy, We're just going
to walk a jumper.

Speaker 28 (55:53):
No, I think the issue is relationships and apparently that
she didn't say the right truthings. It's not about disagreeing
on a policy, if it was about a policy something.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
But Richard, so, yes, they can walk a jump up,
but now they are always wanting to go to their delegates,
and in the three weeks before they go to their delegates,
she appeals again, what do you think, Tim? What should that?
Because if you look at the polls, Mate, when Chloe
took over, they were sitting fourteen fifteen in the polls,
they're now sitting ten and eleven. Because Darlene is hurting them.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think a few things are hurting them.

Speaker 29 (56:26):
But I've got to say I'm heartened if I hear
the Greens leader talking about sun Zu, free speech and
accountability and those are fantastic. Those are fantastic concepts. Let's
embrace them. And look, I think I think you're right,
but I think in terms of in terms of the
way that people are going to respond to it if.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
They do, if they don't go through this process.

Speaker 29 (56:49):
You've already seen the Pacifica Greens leave and if there's
declining support, I do feel like they're cannibalizing their own
interior in some ways. So so it's super problematic. I
think they do have to do it in public. They
do have to get the seventy five percent. Sure she
can get a lawyer, but she'll be increasingly isolated and
perhaps they'll be able to gather gather some momentum. But

(57:12):
again the issue, I think there's a deeper issue there
with how Pacifica people feel like they've been treated by
that quote unquote democracy.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Yeah, they're not loving today, hey, or you guys, you Richard.
Auckland Council are going to see the Auckland Council workers
back in five days a week.

Speaker 28 (57:27):
So I saw Verbeck asking, and I'm hoping she's talking
to all her members, not just Auckland Council. So I
hear a lot of the buildings around the city center
are empty or not very full. But with Auckland Council
we have about eighty eight percent last month in the
city Center building was full. I think Monaco was one
hundred and seven percent.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Averaging and then you downsized. Yeah, we're downsized size to Mancow.

Speaker 28 (57:54):
We downsized as a city.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Now you downsized your floor size and manecaw for Auckland
Council no size.

Speaker 17 (58:00):
As a city.

Speaker 28 (58:00):
We're saving about thirty four million dollars by downsizing office spaces.
We've moved the CEOs into our building things like that.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
So why it's full because you've reduced the floor space,
isn't it?

Speaker 28 (58:11):
Well a little bit of that, but also we have
our staff and libraries, leisure centers working nights. Yeah, it's
not like a perfect system of.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Okay, what about I'm talking about the dudes at the desks.

Speaker 28 (58:22):
The building is like eighty eight percent PIL last month,
and the Monaco Albany are all about eighty ninety percent.
So people are working from the office. But there's still
ability to have flexibility for parents for whatever reason. And
I talked to the CEO today and he said they're
having no issues with productivity or they don't believe anyone's
like taking advantage. It's actually helped people come back to

(58:45):
the office earlier if they have that choice because they're
able to have a bit more flexibility coming fewer days.
So but largely, to be honest, I'm there almost every
day because I like, I prefer it. Most councilors are
not in every day and most of the floors are full.

Speaker 17 (59:01):
The cafe is full.

Speaker 28 (59:01):
That elevators trying to get up if you're in a
rush is a bit of a mission sometimes. So I
am not seeing an issue from our building. But if
the Beck wants to talk to all of their members,
if that's an issue. But I don't think it's also
up to Auckland Council organ council staff to go out
and buy this, you know, only Aukan Council's responsibility to
buy stuff in the city center.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
No, No, it's about leadership and setting an example life because
where she was going, Tim, I want your take on it.
We'll get it after the break. It's fourteen away from.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
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Speaker 3 (59:35):
Right, you're back with the Huddle Richard Hill's and Tim Wilson. Tim,
what do you reckon about Auckland Council sending the staff
back in yeah.

Speaker 29 (59:41):
Yeah. Look, I think what we do at maxim as
we do four days and at work and one day
flexi on a Friday. And I think it's all about productivity,
isn't it. It's like, how do people actually produce the
most in this at work? Is it at home or
is it in the office? And some studies say it's
at home? Some studies saying what's what? I thought was

(01:00:02):
really interesting And one of the things I read was
that workers aren't very good at assessing where they're the
most productive. So it'sing the CEOs are saying they're productive,
then that's positive.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
I do.

Speaker 29 (01:00:14):
I do think though, that accountability is a big issue.

Speaker 5 (01:00:16):
And I've heard someone someone who.

Speaker 29 (01:00:19):
Sort of two steps removed, went in as a manager
and found that people were doing ten minutes work and
billing for an hour. So you've got to cut that
sort of stuff out, like you know, I think, Look,
I say, you know what, come in three days a week,
but make it easier to sack people who aren't performing.
That's the way forward.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
That's true. Why do you do a Friday though? Why
don't you do flexi on a Wednesday?

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
What's what's wrong? What's wrong with well? Wednesday.

Speaker 29 (01:00:43):
Wednesdays the day when you got to grit it out, Heather,
that's hunt Days.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Friday is obviously spending spending time in your car driving
to the corimandal, isn't it.

Speaker 29 (01:00:54):
No, No, we operate a high trust environment at Maxim Institute.
I know they're not driving to the corimandal because I've
got ankle bracelets for.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
The lad of that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
It makes absolute sense. Do you think Richard, that Madison
Ashton the mistress prostitute? Had she appeared? I mean, isn't
that just so salacious? Had she appeared in court, would
she have changed the jury's mind?

Speaker 28 (01:01:12):
I think I might be one of the only people
in New Zealand who has not read or what followed
this all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Why not?

Speaker 28 (01:01:19):
Because I'm very busy and it seemed like bold.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Enough, and because it's good. It's good for it's good
for you. Richard, don't follow the details.

Speaker 29 (01:01:28):
You're actually a more cheerful, optimistic and hopeful person because
you don't know the details.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
Did you not follow it?

Speaker 28 (01:01:34):
It sounded wild?

Speaker 29 (01:01:35):
I just know I deliberately avoided it, To be honest,
I didn't. I don't want to sit there drawling like
some for you about the sexual incontinence, the sadness and
the fragility of the rich and miserable.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
No, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Oh you've shamed us now, Tim, Like, there's no coming back.

Speaker 29 (01:01:52):
I can't even can I say that in a funny way?

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Can you try that?

Speaker 28 (01:01:58):
I do imagine if enter the Pole did get hurt too,
it would have blown up into this even bigger, ridiculous spectacle.
And it does seem odd that it was. I think
it's like a podcast and everything now, but.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
Oh is it a podcast? It's multiple podcasts. You just
show how little it's multiple. Holy Hannah. Hey, okay, listen
Tim on Andrew Costa, do you have any concerns about
the fact that he quite clearly has been given a
sweet job to leave the job that we don't want
him in anymore.

Speaker 29 (01:02:31):
Look, maybe I'm a bit nay, but I think he's
he's proved a great deal of leadership within the police.

Speaker 26 (01:02:38):
Now.

Speaker 29 (01:02:38):
It probably goes back to as my understanding is that
the police commissioner pretty much has to execute what the
government determines his policy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
So under under Labor, he did what they what they wanted.

Speaker 29 (01:02:49):
I actually think he showed leadership during the parliamentary protest
because he went and engaged with the protesters, which is
something that almost no one come in our political class
did stop it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
If you don't move you, I'm going to tell your
cars today And then the next day he'd be like, no,
I really.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
Mean I did hear that.

Speaker 29 (01:03:07):
I didn't hear that. But he's also here's the deal.
He's also locked up common chieros. So if he can
work with both sides of the House, he's going to
be awesome on this role.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I actually think he is going to be good in
this role, Richard, because I think this is as will happen.

Speaker 28 (01:03:18):
He has a really good and this is the problem
with politicians when they're campaigning either side bagging the public servants.
Because we're not like America where we switch all the
public servants out tomorrow, sweep them all out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
They're actually got to work with them.

Speaker 28 (01:03:31):
Whoops, Like I'm elected now and I have to deal
with these people I've been dashing every day. So I
think the issue is it's good in New Zealand that
we have this continuity, we have these people that can
work with either side. But it does come back when
you see Mark Mitchell like sort of red face when
they're asking him in those first few months, like do
you hate Andrew Cossin. They're like no, he's actually a
very fine man, you know, because they don't have a
choice now because ministerial rules are different to opposition rules,

(01:03:54):
and so it's a bit of theater, it's a bit
of campaigning, but it is a good lesson for the
next election or the following elections that people just need
to think about what this is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
So it's MAC talk guys, it's really lovely chatted the
pair of you. Thank you. Tim Wilson of the Maximu
Institute and Richard Hll's Auckland counselor seven Away from six on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
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car on your drive home. Heather Duples see allan drive
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Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Zibbi Okay, I was just talking to Richard as he
was walking out the door about sleep regressions. I didn't
know this, but did you know it? Two and a
half years you get a sleep regression with your baby
and it's just like Satan on wheels. Isn't it just
crying in the cop for a full hour, isn't it
but it's obviously not crying by itself in the cop
for a full hour, because that would be cruel. So
it's crying at mummy's face. So anyway, best of luck

(01:04:43):
to myself. I just said to Richard, this is what
I said to Richard, because his boy is two months
off three, so they've been dealing with the sleep regression
now for four months. And I said to Richard started
for us on Friday night with a hiss and a raw,
and I'm going to break the back of this thing
by in two weeks time. And so I've set it
in my diary two weeks from now it will be over.

(01:05:04):
We'll see, we'll see. That's some epic confidence. We're going
to talk to the FMA just after six o'clock about
this fact that we've got the key we saver going
up by epic amounts. Also quite a bit coming out,
people taking it out, presumably for hardship and stuff like that.
We'll talk through it. The Democrats are apparently increasingly worried
that the Poles are getting it wrong, and Karmela is

(01:05:24):
not as far ahead of Donald as we think. Now
bear this in mind when you read the polls from
heroinin because I do. I mean, if the Democrats are
saying this themselves, they've got a point. They reckon what's
happening in the polls, as they're under counting Trump's voter support.
What they're worried about, particularly are three battleground states Pennsylvania, Michigan,
and Wisconsin, because her margins are small there and she

(01:05:45):
has to win these three. Her margins are only about
one to two percent. Maybe in one of them. I
think it's up to four percent or thereabout, but it's
not big enough. In twenty sixteen, Trump outperformed predictions in
all three of those state and won them all. And
in twenty twenty, Biden had a massive lead on the night,
his lead with tiny, so that says that they do
not count those states properly for Trump. What's really freaking

(01:06:07):
them out is the latest New York Times poll, which
shows Trump doing better in three battleground states Georgia, Arizona,
and North Carolina than he has in weeks. Arizona he's
leading by five points, Georgia, he's leading by four points.
North Carolina, where they've got that ridiculous Mark Robinson causing
him trouble. He's only got a two point lead. If
he outstripped the polling predictions in these six states by

(01:06:29):
the same margins that he did in twenty twenty, he.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Wins, what's down, what were the major calls and how
will it affect the economy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Of a big business?

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Question is on the Business Hour, we've hit the Duplessy
Allen and my Hr on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
News Talks V.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Even coming up in the next hour. Gareth Keernan with
some actual numbers on working from home because we actually
don't have any of those. He's going to run us
through that. Jamie McKay on what to expect from Fonterra's
numbers tomorrow. And Paul Blocks on why the Reserve Bank
of Australia held the cash rate today. It's seven past
six now. Ken we Saver investments have had a new milestone,
topping over one hundred billion dollars for the first time
in New Zealand. The amount of money in managed funds

(01:07:11):
has increased by nineteen percent and what that means is
that sixty two percent of us are now invested in
a key we save a fund. John Horner is the
director of the Financial Markets Authority. Hey, John, Hi, is
there a particular reason why our key we save in
investments have jumped up that much in just a year.

Speaker 14 (01:07:27):
Look, it's probably a bounce back from the prior year
where returns on investment we're negative. So we always look
at these things long term. Great to see a bounce back,
but that's the long term accounts.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
What do you make of the number of withdrawals or
the value of the withdrawals.

Speaker 14 (01:07:42):
Possibly a sign of the times, that's these cost of
living challenges, that's difficult economic conditions, and so it's probably
key we Saber working as it was designed to allow
those withdrawals to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
How much okay, so how much of the money that's
being withdrawn is being taken out to basically just pay
the bills.

Speaker 14 (01:08:01):
We won't know the reasons in for the withdrawals. I
mean hardship applications. It's quite a high threshold. It's not
a matter if I can't pay my bills just now,
but it's quite a significant threshold to overcome. That's dealt
with by the supervisors Saber providers. They assess the hardship
applications and make those decisions.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Yeah, just off the top of my head of something
like five billion, that's been taken out in the last year.

Speaker 22 (01:08:24):
Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 14 (01:08:27):
Yeah, five billion was drawn by members and so that'll
also be over sixty fives as well. So they're the
ones who are actually using their kiwisaver in their retirement.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Right, And the key we say, sorry, the over sixty
fives actually make up the vast majority of that about
three billion. But how do we know they don't need
it for hardship?

Speaker 14 (01:08:45):
Well, they can use it for whatever reason they like, right,
So you're right. I mean, if you're in your retirement,
kevsaver is all about your financial wellbeing and your retirement years.
Some of those folks will still be working, maybe part time,
maybe full time, but TV taper is available for them
to use as they wish.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
And so I suppose we can't break it out and
look at how many of them are taking it up
because they're leaving the country altogether or anything like that.

Speaker 14 (01:09:07):
Can we look the numbers are as reported? There's an
also a lot of numbers in there, so I can't
speak to all of them. But yeah, the withdrawals, the
headline figures for the withdrawals is the number week we focus.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
On, what do you make of only sixty two percent
of us being invested in key We SAB fund. I
suppose glass half full. That's not a bad number, but
glass half empty. There's still a fair chunk of us
who aren't invested.

Speaker 14 (01:09:36):
That's right. We'd always like it to be more, and obviously,
like the members who are part of KI we savor
to be contributing. But again, relative to the times we're
going through at the moment, we think the contributions have
held pretty steady. We'd always like those who have cys

(01:09:57):
to make contributions to come back and start those again
just as soon as they can.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
John, most people are in growth funds. Now. Does that
reflect the age of the investors that they are of
a younger profile or is this something else going on here?

Speaker 14 (01:10:11):
Maybe not so much the age, more the investment horizon
that they're looking at as their long term investment. They've
got a long term horizon sort of ten years and plus,
then growth fund is most likely to be the right
fund for them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
John, it's good to talk to you. Thank you very much,
really appreciate it. John Horner, Director of the Financial Markets Authority.
Heither can you please look into the realize that agents
losing their licenses for not completing the Maori cultural courses. Yeah,
I'm going to raise that with you. You're going to
hear this. You're going to have to hear this. The
old Fletcher Building thing seems to be an old albatross
hanging around some people who are associated with its next

(01:10:47):
at the moment, A Bruce Hassel made buff may be
regretting that he ever had anything to do with it.
He was the chair of Fletcher Building. He has now
just withdrawn his nomination for election to the Victor Board.
Completely unrelated, but has decided to withdraw his nomination for
election because feedback from shareholders, obviously when it was not

(01:11:08):
very positive about his previous role as the chair of
Fletcher Building. The Victor's current chair, Doug mckaye's expressed disappointment
on behalf of the board said Hassel had made you know,
significant contributions since he joined last October and blah blah blah,
and he had the unanimous support of his board colleagues,
but unfortunately the shareholders don't love it. And so he's
out twelve past.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Six crunching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
It's Heather dupice Ellen with the business hours thanks to
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Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
The Chloe's interview is definitely two bottles of salad dressing
from Steve Hither. We will need a four year term
if the Greens have anything to do with the next government,
as it will take them more than three years to
make a decision. That's a fair point. Actually, can you
imagine if they decided to start taking everything to the delegates.
We're going to meet with the delegates in three weeks
time to see if they like what the Prime Minister's
suggesting that we have to do and how we should
vote on this in the future. So that's going to

(01:12:01):
take a little while. So yep, democracy, democracy and action,
isn't it? Quarter past six now? Working from home right
has been the talk, big talking point of the week
so far. What we don't have is a lot of numbers,
so we thought we'd crunch a few of them just
to get a bit of context into this debate. And
Gareth Kernan is Informetric's chief forecasters, who's been a forecaster,
who's been doing the numbers for us at Gareth evening here, mate,

(01:12:24):
do we have any idea how many people are actually
working from Home.

Speaker 20 (01:12:28):
Statsenter did a survey last year and showed that about
forty three percent of people have the option to work
from home, and some other numbers suggest that around about
eighty percent of those people have worked from home in
the last three months or so, not saying they work
from home every week, but at least utilizing that option
to some extent. It's interesting when you look at professional services,

(01:12:50):
which you know, the talk has been about the government
this week, and it's probably the closest industry we've got
sort of lining up with the sort of work there.
Eighty one percent of people are able to work from home,
so it is massively prevalent, as you'd expect, I guess
through you know those sort of office based jobs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Do you think that sending these guys back is the
proportion of the workforce in Wellington being the civil service
big enough to actually impact Wellington if we sent them
all back five days a week, let's say.

Speaker 20 (01:13:19):
Well, I mean, look the civil service, it's about twenty
percent of Wellington's workforce, compared to across the rest of
the country around about five percent, so it is significant.
But I was fascinated looking at the public transport usage
actually on a regional basis. I mean Wellington's public transport
usage this year to date, it is down about six
percent from where it was in twenty nineteen, back when

(01:13:39):
the world was all normal. Auckland, I was surprised to
look at Auckland fourteen percent down, and then I remember
that you guys have had massive problems, you know, and
fixing your train lines and all that.

Speaker 17 (01:13:48):
Sort of thing.

Speaker 20 (01:13:50):
But even bus usage in Auckland are still around, sitting
around about seven percent below where it was in twenty nineteen.
So there's sort of a bit of a feeling that
there's other issues at play in Wellington, a part up
from just the fact that public servants have been working
from home. I mean, there's been a lot of discussion
down here, of course about the sort of creek in
infrastructure and the unattractiveness of the center of town with

(01:14:10):
earthquake damaged buildings and that type of thing. We haven't
had a lot of population growth here as well at times.
And you overlay all of that, of course with the
actual job cuts we've seen to the public sector, and
I think there's probably bigger issues at play then simply,
you know, too many people working from home and not
spending enough in the cafes in town.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
The defense that you get from people who don't want
to have to go back to work, the unions or
you know, don't want to have to send the staff
back to work is that there isn't a problem with productivity.
It hasn't decreased. But can we actually say that with confidence?
Is anybody at any of these agencies or private sector
employers actually measuring productivity often enough to know for sure?

Speaker 20 (01:14:45):
I think there's been so many sort of conflicting studies
on it, it's really hard to come to any sort
of firm conclusion about the productivity outcomes. And I get
the feeling that it really depends on your organization. It
really depends on the individuals that play as well. You know,
for some people working at home with the interruptions is
fantastic and they do get more done. For others you
kind of feel like, you know, maybe maybe they are

(01:15:06):
taking the piece of it and you know, a couple
of hours work here and a couple of hours work there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
So, gare you work in Wellington? Do you know any
public sector? Got any mates? So we're taking the mickey
a little bit.

Speaker 20 (01:15:18):
No, My mates are all very very strong working. I
can't believe you to cure some of that, but no loans,
I know, heaps, Yeah, no, I mean look for look
from an infometric's point of view, I mean, we've always
had quite a flexible work and policy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:33):
Even pre COVID.

Speaker 20 (01:15:34):
But we're a small organization with you know, twelve thirteen,
fourteen people. It's pretty easy to see sort of holes
in people's productivity if they're not pulling their weight. It
is a lot harder in those bigger organizations and obviously
the public sector. I think imagine it's a lot harder
to keep tabs on everybody and that sort of situation.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Yeah too, right, Hey, Gareth, as always really appreciate you
doing the numbers for us and chatting to you. That's
Gareth Kenan, chief forecast at Informetrics. All right, here we go.
This is what's happened with the the compulsory Maori cultural
course for the real estate agents. There is a chap
who was or is I don't really know because I
don't watch Mary at first sight, but is at some
stage has or is going to be on this show.

(01:16:12):
His name is Mike Wilson and he is himself a
real estate agent. He has lost his complete real estate
agent's license because he didn't do the Maori cultural course,
in particular the course called tech Carcinal the Seed. Now,
he didn't have a problem with tech Carcinal. He just
was busy. He was busy filming the reality TV show.

(01:16:33):
It took six weeks. He didn't check his emails when
he was doing the six weeks, and so as a result,
he didn't get the reminders from them saying, don't forget
to do the seed. Do the seed. Oh no, you
didn't do the seed. Okay, we're canceling. Yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. Real estate license. Now, this is the one
and the same course that Janet Dixon is in the
High Court over. You know this one. This is the
one she refused to do it, and she's completely different

(01:16:54):
to Mike. Mike just forgot or got busy, But Janet
didn't want to do it, but she didn't see any
point in doing it. So she's taken a judicial review
on the thing and it's gone to the High Court
and blah blah blah. It's the same course. Now, I
forgive me if I got this wrong, but I was
under the impression that when Janet went to court over this,
that it stopped being compulsory, that they had changed their

(01:17:16):
rules at the real estate whatever body that called nowadays.
I thought that changed the rules over this. I thought
you didn't have to do this thing anymore, But evidently
you do anyway whatever hopefully, I mean, Mike's obviously suffered
from being a boy. Boys forget to do things like this.
But it's drawn our attention to this again, and it
brings me back to a point that I think I
was making maybe last week. Is it not remarkable to

(01:17:39):
you how this idea has taken hold, that it is
completely and utterly acceptable to force people to do things
in one particular area. I mean, because absolutely, Marty T.
Kunger is very important to understand. But we could probably
mount the same argument for a lot of things, like
if we were particularly feeling particular exercised about women's rights today,

(01:18:02):
we could force all of the real estate agents. Why
don't we force all of the real estate agents to
do a compulsory course on consensual sex because we want
them to understand that, or the gender pay gap, or
how women feel uncomfortable when you treat them in a
certain way in a private residence. I don't know like,
why don't we do that, Why don't we make that compulsory?

(01:18:23):
You know, but we've decided this one particular idea. It
must be compulsory at Auckland University, must be a compulsory
aspect of whether aut staff can can travel, must be
compulsory at the real estate agents, you know. Like it's
quite remarkable how widespread it is. And you can see
how if you are a government, a party in government
wanting to turn that around, you've got a big job
in your hands six twenty two crunching.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
The others and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Twenty four past six. Remember Paul Bloxham is going to
be with us after the news talk us through what's
going on with the interest rates at the Reserve Bank
of Australia et cetera, et cetera, and whether they're affected
by what the Fed did Right now with us Jamie McKay,
Host to the Country, a Jamie Gooda here that what
are you expecting from Fromterra tomorrow?

Speaker 30 (01:19:13):
Well, not much in terms of the final milk price
for the twenty three to twenty four season. The experts
telling me it'll be a rounding exercise. At this stage,
they're currently sitting at a midpoint of seven eighty. There
might be a wee bit of upside. I'd be surprised
if there was any downside. I think tomorrow's number that
might be of interest is the dividend, though amounts the

(01:19:34):
final dividend for the twenty three twenty four financial year,
remembering in twenty two to twenty three it was fifty cents,
but you don't have to go that far back in time.
In fact, to twenty eighteen nineteen it was nothing, not
a sausage, nada, and then in twenty nineteen twenty it
was only five cents. So I'm assuming I'm going to

(01:19:55):
make the assumption, perhaps rather foolishly, that that dividend's going
to be in excess of She's fifty cents. Miles will
probably prove me wrong. At about eight thirty tomorrow morning,
we'll have that number confirmed. Wee bit of upside on
seven eighty, as far as I'm aware. Once again, Miles
will probably make a fall to me. I'm not sure
they update the current season forecast, which is currently sitting

(01:20:17):
at eight dollars fifty midpoint. Mind you, the futures markets
are doing a bit better than that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Oh, Jamie, sounds like it's a bit tough in south
and for the farmers at the moment with all the rainfall.

Speaker 30 (01:20:27):
Yeah, well you talk about diversification and farming, Heather. I've
still got a lot of mates, as you know, you
know some of them down in Southland who are sheep farmers,
So I think they're going to diversify into growing rice.
It's literally like a rice paddy down there. I was
talking to an old timer today and I said, is
it worse than the lambing of twenty ten or eleven
when the roof on Stadium Southland fell collapsed because of

(01:20:51):
all the snow lying on it? Or is it worse
than the lambing of eighty six when we're not only
had rained for three weeks. We had Roger Douglas and
he said that was almost as bad as the lambing
seventy two. That's how far back some of them are coming. Look,
it's been a bloody disaster. You've got no grass, poor
utilization of the grass that's growing. Eye it all gets

(01:21:11):
stamped and trampled into the mud and you've got low
soil temperatures, not much sunshine, horizontal hail down there today.
So look, they're in a bit of a fix. But
you can go up the road a bit to North
Canterbury and they've got completely the opposite problem, and probably
a worse one. Those guys can't buy a break in
terms of soil moisture, so they're headed for a stinking drought.

(01:21:33):
It would be fair to say that Southland's a wee
way from a trout at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Jamie, good to talk to you. Thank you for that.
Appreciated As Jammy mackay hosts of the Country. Hey listen.
Last week during the show, we broadcast audio evidence from
the trial of Philip Pulkinghorn, and we didn't give any
of our listeners a warning before we played that audio.
Now we acknowledge that the content could have been actually
pretty distressing for members of our audience, So we would
like to apologize for that. Twenty seven past six now, now,

(01:22:00):
I don't know if you wanted it. Do you want
to know this? Green Peace are up to it again,
aren't they. Yeah, they are just talking yesterday about the
guys from Extinction Rebellion causing trouble with the trains. That
was historic, but they're not going to get in much
trouble by the looks of things today. Must have given
them longtime listeners green Peace, I don't know if you know.
Must have given them an idea. Must have been like
it's been a while between them between protests, so today

(01:22:22):
they decided to lock themselves inside the Stratira HQ. Now
Stratira are a you probably don't know who they are
because most of us just get on with our lives.
But oh no, not green Peace. Stratira has been winding
them up. Stratira are like the lobby body for the
representative body for the mining industry. So three green Peace
dudes went and there locked themselves inside. Must have been

(01:22:42):
like hell for being in there with all the pictures
of all the mining on the walls and stuff. Two
more climbed onto an awning at the front of the
building and they held up a big nosey bed mining banner.
A cops arrived, but they were not going anywhere, and
they decided that wasn't enough, So then they climbed a
giant crane like thing down at the train station in
Wellington as well. I hope stay safe up there, because
it's it's high headline's next.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Two whether it's macro micro or just playing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Economics, it's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy
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us dogs bad.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
It's going to be at us in ten minutes time. Okay,
So this is what I was going to tell you
about the race for Andrew Costa's job. So apparently it's
between Deputy Commissioner give A mcskimming and Richard Chambers, the
Assistant Commissioner. Now both of them actually graduated Police College
in the same year, nineteen ninety six, so if they've
both been but both of them must have done all
up around about what's that twenty seven twenty eight years

(01:23:50):
and the cops, that's not bad A MC skimming give
the mc skimming did ten years in front run roles
in Auckland, Southland West Coast, then went to Wellington, took
some leadership positions to National Headquarters Police National Headquarters in
twenty ten, rose through the ranks there last year became
Deputy Commissioner. Chambers also worked on the front line in
Auckland and then became a detective and then moved to Wellington,

(01:24:12):
then became the area commander for Lower Hut in two
thousand and seven, then the district commander for Tasman and
then Auckland and then went back to Wellington as an
assistant commissioner. In twenty sixteen when he missed out on
the job to Andrew Costa or maybe some other job.
There was some promotion he didn't get. He decided to
go on secondment earlier this year and accepted as seeing

(01:24:33):
your role into poll he said at the time he
was prepared to come back for a role in New Zealand,
like he was intending to come back at some stage,
might be coming back sooner than expected. Between the two
of them. The thing that puts Richard Chambers slightly ahead
probably of JEVN mcskimming. I'd imagine if you're looking for
frontline experience is simply his frontline experience. He's just had
more time being an actual cop. So anyway it'll be

(01:24:54):
Really that seems to me like they've got some decent
candidates there to choose from. If even if it's just
those two two away from seven Kell du forer c Allen,
so the reserve Bank in Australia held its official cash
rate at four point three five percent for the seventh
time today in a row of course if the FED sorry,
and the Reserve Bank here in New Zealand have both
dropped their rates in recent times, but the RBA said

(01:25:14):
it will be sometime yet before inflation is sustainably in
the target range. Paul Bloxham is agspec's chief economist. Hey,
Paul good, Paul, listen, tell me if I'm wrong, But
I thought that you guys with headline and inflation are
expected to very shortly actually be within the margin, aren't you.

Speaker 22 (01:25:31):
Headline inflation is going to fall, and probably tomorrow when
we get the CPI indicator this is not the CPI
that it's our new timely monthly version. It's going to
show headline inflation falling quite strongly actually, But this is
not the key. The key is that headline inflation is
likely to come down simply because the government has given
energy subsidies, they've lowered people's electricity bills, and so that

(01:25:53):
doesn't really constitute a sustainable fall and inflation. That's a
policy measure. And so the RBA has made it absently clear,
and today they were very very clear in their statement
that they are going to focus on the underlying measures
of inflation, not the headline rate of inflation, because that's
being affected by these temporary policy changes, and so it'll
be key to watch out for what the underlying measures do.

(01:26:14):
But our take is the underlying measures that the trimmed mean,
for example, is still are still going to be well
above where the RBA is comfortable, well above the RBA's
target band. And we saw that today in the tone
of what they delivered, they remained on hold. They talked
about the idea that they've not ruled anything in or
anything out, and they noted that near term rate cuts
are really not on the cards at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:26:34):
Does it get awkward for Michelle Bollock to have the
FED cutting by fifty, the Reserve Bank cutting maybe even
by fifty at some stage at herders sitting.

Speaker 22 (01:26:42):
There, It certainly raises the bar. It raises the bar
for them to think about where they're at and say
to themselves, why are we different? You know, why is
Australia in a different spot? And the argument we've been
putting forward for a while is Australia is in a
different spot We're in a different spot for a number
of reasons. One of them is that the RBA didn't
lift interest rates as much as everyone else. I've talked

(01:27:03):
about this all year along with you. I know, you know,
they did four hundred and twenty five basis points of hiking,
whereas the Fed did five twenty five. The RBNS they
did five twenty five, just did less, They did less tightening,
and so one of the consequences is they haven't had quite.

Speaker 9 (01:27:16):
As much disinflation.

Speaker 22 (01:27:17):
And then the other really big factor is that the
supply side productivity has been really quite quite quite weak,
quite weak in Australia, and so we're not getting as
much disinflation. We do look different to everyone else, but
they're going to with other central banks now cutting rates
across the world, it's going to be that bar is
higher for them to convince themselves continually that we are different.
We don't think rate cuts are coming through for a

(01:27:38):
while though. We think rate cuts aren't coming into a
well into twenty twenty five in Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
What do you think about the feed having cut by
fifty basis points and the impact it's going to have
on the Reserve Bank in New Zealand at the next decision.

Speaker 22 (01:27:49):
Well, I think the first thing to take from it
is that, actually, this is what a soft landing looks like.
You know, the reason why the Fed's been able to
cut this because inflation's coming down quite quickly and they
feel that can deliver more support, and they've done that
while the economy is actually the US economy is still
got positive momentum, growth is still holding up pretty well.
You want to be able to cut interest rates before
growth slows down to prevent it from slowing down by

(01:28:12):
very much. This is, again, what a soft landing looks like.
I don't think it's a bad story. I think it's
a good story. I don't think it has that much
bearing on the RBNZA. I think the RBNZ, like the RBA,
gets to run its own race and said it's policy
based on domestic conditions. And I think the RBNZED will
cut rates further twenty five in the next meeting, twenty
five at the one after. We think that the RBNZ

(01:28:32):
has broad inflation down enough to be able to continue
to ease its policy setting a lot like the FED,
but not necessarily because of the FED.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
Yeah, Paul, Hey, thank you. As always really appreciate your take.
That's Paul Bloxham, HSBC's chief economist. Listen on this business
with Winston Peters and the vote on the UN resolution
read the settlers in various parts of it basically occupy
pealasin the in territory. I think you can broadly say.
David Seymour has now said that he's asked Winston Peter's
in the future to talk to acts before they make

(01:29:02):
any decisions like like voting on that. He says, we
do support the government's position, we're compelled to do that.
And I've also just had a quiet chat. It's been
a pretty controversial decision for a lot of people. It's
not something I've participated in. I've talked to Winston Peters.
We had a friendly chat. I say, I said, you know, look,
it would be good if we could chat about this
war in future. So you can see trying to sort

(01:29:24):
of say, not altogether happy with the way it's been handled,
but jeez, David seem was treading carefully with Winston Peter's ego.
They're a eighteen away from seven.

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Speaker 3 (01:29:43):
It's quarter two and with us now as Endebrady are
UK correspondent Evening Ender.

Speaker 9 (01:29:48):
Hello, have they love it? To speak to you?

Speaker 12 (01:29:49):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
To talk to you always?

Speaker 9 (01:29:50):
Is?

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
What do you make of Angela Rainer getting these vanity
photographs taken?

Speaker 31 (01:29:55):
Well, Look, this is a spillover from the Conservative government
because they had professional photographers. Boris Johnson had his own
professional photographer, and it is it's a control mechanism basically
to make sure that the pictures that end up in
the papers and nobody is unhappy with them. And look,
whatever anyone thinks in public life of photographers who work

(01:30:17):
for newspapers.

Speaker 9 (01:30:18):
They're there to document history. They are there to document
the news and archive life as they see it, not
how you want to be seen. And we've we've had some.

Speaker 31 (01:30:29):
Kind of stupid pictures over the years of politicians in
public doing stupid things and they get on the front
pages and the narrative kind of sticks. I mean, we
had a guy, a labor politician, he was the labor leader,
Ed Milliband, he never became Prime Minister, and there was
a picture of him eating a bacon sandwich one day
that a photographer took and it was he just made
a mess of eating a sandwich, And that basically was

(01:30:51):
the narrative that you wouldn't let this guy run the country.

Speaker 9 (01:30:53):
You can't even eat a sandwich. So I think what Browner.

Speaker 31 (01:30:56):
Is doing basically is a spillover from everything that went
on in Downing Street on theer Boris Johnson, that taxpayer
money was put aside for professional photographers.

Speaker 9 (01:31:05):
Johnson had a huge, huge ego, and you know, the
money's there and she's just using it, same as the
Tories did.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
What about her drinking whiskey through a straw though, that's
gonna be some sort of a crime.

Speaker 9 (01:31:18):
Yes, and she was.

Speaker 31 (01:31:19):
Look, Look, she gets a lot of attention in the
media because an awful lot of people she's quite divisive. Look,
she's a working class girl from a working class background
and she's deputy Prime minister. An awful lot of people
here on the right hate her for that very reason.
So whatever she wears tomorrow, she goes out and wears
a ten dollars blouse tomorrow, they will say, oh my god,

(01:31:40):
she's deputy prime minister. Wouldn't she dress up, make an
effort and then if she's seen in the Designer Frock
next week, it'll be oh my god, who's paying for this?

Speaker 9 (01:31:48):
She can't win.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
It was not gonna win if she's drinking whiskey out
of a straw. But maybe it's a thing that's going
to catch on. Hey, listen it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:54):
How is it?

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Five and a half percent pay rise for nurses not enough?

Speaker 9 (01:31:59):
They say that they deserve more.

Speaker 31 (01:32:00):
And the inflation last year, at the start of last
year was running at eleven percent. And I think what's
happened is they've seen the junior doctors get thirty five
percent over the next couple of years. They've seen train
drivers get twenty two percent, and I think the nurses
have just looked around and thought, do you know what?

Speaker 9 (01:32:18):
You all were happy enough to stand every.

Speaker 31 (01:32:20):
Thursday evening during COVID on your doorsteps and bang pots
and pans and clap for us. Well, you know the
time for clapping is over. They were the absolute heroines
and heroes of the pandemic.

Speaker 9 (01:32:31):
My mother was a nurse in Ireland. She was a
psychiatric nurse.

Speaker 31 (01:32:35):
Nurses do a bloody, bloody good job and they don't
get paid anywhere near what they should.

Speaker 9 (01:32:41):
And I think a lot of nurses here are a
breaking point.

Speaker 31 (01:32:44):
And I think the big winners out of this will
be the health services of New Zealand, Australia, Canada, United
States do buy where people want to go and actually are.

Speaker 9 (01:32:51):
In a living and have an awful lot less stressed.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Yeah, I believe that now Kiostama speech right, He's going
to see in his vision for Britain today at the
party conference. Are you expecting it to be a real
tub thump or.

Speaker 9 (01:33:03):
What he doesn't really do? Rasmetass. He's not Tony Blair.

Speaker 31 (01:33:09):
I mean everyone's expecting Blair and you know, dream music
in the background and things can only get better.

Speaker 9 (01:33:15):
He's a pragmatist. But I think the problem.

Speaker 31 (01:33:18):
Starmer has now is he spent the last eight weeks
telling everyone how bad it is. And it is bad
here seven million people on the waiting list for hospital treatment,
seven million people waiting for hospital treatment in Britain. A
GDP debt is now one hundred percent of GDP. Absolutely
everything in this country is broken. And I think, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:33:38):
As much as people hated the last lot, they.

Speaker 31 (01:33:41):
Need to hear that he has got some solutions and
Hopefully today's the day where he just spells out that
you know there are better days coming, but just bear
with me. We need ideas, not word salad. I mean
we've had fourteen years of word salad under the Conservatives
and it's got Britain absolutely nowhere. So all eyes on
Starmer today. I think the big problem he has is

(01:34:02):
there's no money. There's simply no money left in the pot.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Yeah, it would be tough to have to govern like that.
And it's always good to talk to you. I appreciate it.
We'll talk to you in a couple of days. In the Brady,
a UK correspondent. Look, I don't know if you've ever
dreamed of owning a gang pad, but maybe you need to,
because boy, have I got an opportunity for you. In fact,
it's probably gone under the Ham or already I think
it was going. Laura, wasn't your your dream house? In

(01:34:26):
Wigram the Headhunter's HQ under the Hammer at half past six,
it was do you know how much it's sold for?
You got to look for the This is good research
for us. We need this. Laura is going to look
up how much it's sold for if it to sell
at all, it's it's got a lot going for it. It's
a it's a desirable corner site that this cop has
obviously took it off the headhunters or something like that,
and anyway, desirable corner site, fantastic development opportunity, nine hundred

(01:34:49):
square meters of residential suburban land in two titles. A
bit of a mess. It's a do or upper. I
think we'd call it a do or upper. It's a
small brown wooded bungalow, very high fence, which, you know,
depending on how you feel about your neighbors or you know,
the police, it could be quite handy for you to

(01:35:09):
have that high fence. Unfortunately, what's behind the high fence
is just a mess. It's just like brown broken furniture,
appliances littering the ground. A washing line, old school washing
line still standing there. So that's all there. They did
do a little bit of alterations. They tried to jazz
up the place. Chucked in a new bathroom, chucked in
a new kitchen, well equipped motorbike repair shop because that's

(01:35:32):
what we all need. And a bar and lounge and
some more accommodation, probably a like bunk style, so you could,
you know, have all of your friends over at exactly
the same time. Lots of parking obviously, so you can
have more of your friends as well as nothing the
headhunters love more than a good party. It last sold
in July twenty eleven for two hundred and fifty nine

(01:35:53):
thousand dollars, and the most recent valuation two years ago
was around about five hundred thousand, so that's probably around
about where you're looking for. Obviously, brought down slightly by
all of the tidy up that you're going to have
to do in the state of disrepair and stuff. But man,
I tell you what, if you look at a first
home buyer, what are you complaining about? There you go
Workham property. May have a few problems with previous owners

(01:36:18):
who may get to know you a little bit by
turning up uninvited, but hey, look there you go entry
level eight away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Listen. I've avoided talking about this all the way through
the show, but I feel like I just want to.
I just want to say this really quickly, because when
Richard Hills was in earlier Auckland counselor, he also said
the same thing to me, and so it made me
feel like I wasn't just going to be a curmudgeon
if I if I said this. So I'm just going
to say this. Oh, by the way, the household for
three hundred and seventy eight thousand dollars bargain valued at

(01:37:01):
five hundred sold for three seventy a's comes with extra
appliances lying outside and unconsented alterations and a washing line.
That's a bargain. I don't know. They better have been
a first home by it who got in there, otherwise
I'd be like, yeah, you are ungrateful, stop complaining anyway.
So this is what I want to say. There is
a scandal in Auckland today because you remember the council

(01:37:23):
took away all of the city's bins. And when they
took away this, well, not all of but like a
fast proportion, like a big number. It was hundreds, hundreds
and hundreds of bins. And when they took them away,
they said, don't worry, we will recycle these bins. We
will replace craddy broken bins. By using these bins and
everybody's oh, thank you, okay, cool, that's all right. Then
unfortunately somebody called Jason has just found And I don't

(01:37:46):
want to say Jason's full name because I don't want
to cause him unnecessary trouble for being numpty. But Jason
got very upset because he went to Auckland Domain and
he looked behind the fence and he saw all bins
lying there in what he calls a bin graveyard. He
was so upset about it he decided to get in
touch with the papers about that, and he said he

(01:38:07):
was really surprised that the bins were stored in such
a disrespectful manner, like they're being chucked in a pile.
What's the problem, Jason, what's your problem? The bins were
lying outside. That's where bins live. Bins live outside. That's
they are made to weather the conditions because they are bins.
So what's the problem with the bins? Did you want

(01:38:29):
the bins stacked? Because I mean, we can, we can
pay somebody to go and stack the bins like little Domino's,
all next to each other, so it looks like an
orderly kind of I mean, if if what we're dealing
with you is but OCD which want to have them tidy,
we can do that. But if what you're advocating, Jason
is that we take the outdoor bins and put them
in internal storage, get a grip mate, because that's that's

(01:38:50):
going to cost us money to put the bins somewhere inside. Look,
what the hell? Also, can the media please have higher
bar for things that we complain about. That's not a complaint,
that's just put it on your Twitter account.

Speaker 5 (01:39:02):
Andy.

Speaker 32 (01:39:04):
Yeah, imagine Jason with an organic an organic collection. Imagine
him walking around the streets when everything's out on.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
The side of don't tell him about that.

Speaker 32 (01:39:14):
He's not gonna like that or that gang pad that
you're trying to sell earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
Imagine if he sees those appliance as lying outside they're
actually supposed to be inside, lying outside.

Speaker 32 (01:39:23):
And she's quite annoyed about the bins there to be
fair and go to the local park with it with
the kids, and I can't put the nappies anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
Well, yeah, that is annoying. But don't you just have
like in your baby bag. Don't you have the little
poo bags you put the nappy in?

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Not a dog.

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
I'm not saying she's a dog.

Speaker 12 (01:39:42):
Pooh bags.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Don't you have poo bags? I don't have poo bags. Andy.
I'm gonna have to get you some pooh bags, little
poo bag.

Speaker 32 (01:39:48):
You just put the some poo bags tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
That's and they're centered.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
Ye okay, if I remember, I'm a right out of
my hand. Here, hold on poobee bags for Andy.

Speaker 32 (01:39:56):
If a cold play for at least more tickets we
go out with clocks tonight, you can get them from
Live Nation for Eden Park for their three shows.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
It's going to be so epic. I got a ticket
from Colpay for my birthday from my wonderful friend Rachel.

Speaker 28 (01:40:06):
Isn't that nice?

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
I have a friend I know. Go Rachelhw's next.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
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