Full Show Podcast: 25 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Digging through the spin spens to find the real story.
Oring it's Heather du Passy on Drive with One New
Zealand Let's get Connected News TALKSV.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Today, we're going
to talk about the Epstein files with US lawyer Randy Zellen.
We're going to talk about the GP funding shake up
with the GPS themselves, and we're going to talk about
Hulk Hogan with the woman who wrote the book on
professional wrestling and yes, there is a woman who wrote
a book on professional wrestling.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
For Heather Duplicy out.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
First up, though, we're going to have to talk about Garza. Now,
don't turn off your radio. You don't need to turn
it off. I'm not going to be graphic and I'm
not going to talk about what's happening there in detail.
You already know. You can choose to read about it yourself,
and I recommend that you do, just to the point
that you can kind of handle it. Credit today to
Anthony Alberonizi, the Prime Minister of Australia. He has stopped
pussy footing around what's going on here. He's just put

(00:53):
out a strongly worded statement This afternoon, he demands, demanding
that Israel stops starving children to death and let in
more aid. He says, we call on Israel to comply
immediately with its obligations under international law. Now that is
a shed load better than the waffly joint statement we
signed up earlier this week. We need to get a
spine on this, don't we Our joint statement didn't even
mention the word starvation or starving or any variation on

(01:18):
that word. It is watered down to the point of
having absolutely no impact. And that is what it had.
No impact.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
I am not naive enough to think that New Zealand
telling Israel off is going to change anything. But we've
got to do something. And if all we've got God
as words, then we're going to have to use them.
Because maybe I am naive enough to believe that if
enough world leaders call out Israel and name what is
going on and don't puss his foot around it, and
call the deliberate starvation for what it is, and if
enough world leaders say you have got to stop this now,

(01:47):
and if enough leaders then in act sanctions on Israel,
then surely Trump cannot ignore it anymore. And Trump is
the key here. He's the one we have to convince.
Now I know that Israe else still has hostages in
those tunnels. And as I said earlier this week, COMUS
must release them for this water end. There is no
other way. But let me put this to you in

(02:07):
very very stark numbers. Ten hostages is not worth even
one of those children's lives. You do not starve a
child to death to get ten hostages out. They are children. Now,
as I say, I cannot believe that we are watching
this happen, and that we are letting this happen.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Heather d for Seela Right.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
So Facebook, get a load of US drug dealers are
openly selling Class A substances on Facebook marketplace, psychedelic mushrooms, cannabis, alsti.
They've all been popping up for sale a blay of plenty.
Man says he's tried to report the accounts doing this
to Facebook hundreds of times, he reckons, but nothing has
been done about it. Glenn Dobson is the CEO of
the Drug Detection Agency and with US. Hi, Glenn, yeah, Hi,
hear that you know this was happening.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Oh, Like, it's not a surprise. They're using social media platforms.
We've known about the dark web for years and technology moves,
you know, it's not a surprise. We've got herb eats
and now I've got something similar to Uber drugs.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
It's hardly the dark web, though, is that? I mean
his Facebook marketplace? Like literally you and I could go on,
our kids could go on Facebook marketplace. Isn't that mental?

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
And that's the scary thing, you know for us with
the workplace drug testing we do. We've seen a real
increase in drug use recently, and obviously the access to
the drugs and using social media platforms like this as
a concern because the easy you can get the drugs
makes it more prevalent in the community.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is there anything that the cops can do to stop this?

Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:33):
There is, Look, I think there definitely is, both from
a police and from a government regulation perspective. Obviously the
police have a big focus on the I guess the
higher end, higher quantity supply at the moment, but certainly
they still have an obligation to polase it. Either mean low.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Glenn, have you touched on the problem there, which is
that if you're busting millions and millions and millions of
dollars coming out of the stuff coming over the border.
Then somebody selling I don't know, analyst sheet is hardly
hardly of any interest to you. If you're the cops, right,
you got a fish to fry.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well, that's the challenge too. And you know, we're an
island with a lot of sure that that people can
get their goods through, and we do it decept a
lot of drugs at our borders, but we still don't
know one hundred percent what percentage that is. And so
we definitely some drugs are still coming in. And that's
now as we see being marketed through platforms like Facebook.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And what about the fact that Facebook market Facebook's being
warned about this and apparently has done nothing.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yeah, and look, that's atrocious for a big organization like that.
Meta has a they have a moral obligation to do
something about it. You know, they've got a they've got
a public policy that bans the supply of drugs on
their platform, But they seem to be very very slow
to react in this scenario.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Is there some sort I'm trying right now, Glenn, while
I talk to because I'm a woman, I can multitask.
I'm trying to buy it. Well, I'm not trying to
buy it, jeez. I'm trying to look it up on
Facebook Marketplace and I typed and alist have got nothing.
Then I typed up MDMA nothing. I tried to tried marshes.
Nothing is there like a hold or something.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Well, look, there is often a street slang that they
may use. The terms change often, but I saw the
Herald article and it was blatant. There was just mushrooms
that were being marketed and sold in that particular article.
The challenge is always that the drug trends, the drug
market changes, and the regulators and Facebook and Meta need

(05:24):
to keep up with that. But just because it's difficult,
there's no reason to say they shouldn't be doing it.
They've got an obligation to the community.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, all right, hey, I'll see what I can find
out about the slang. Thank you, Glenn appreciated Glenn Dobbs
and the Drug Detection Agency CEO. I'm not trying to
buy it for myself, obviously, because if I was, I
wouldn't be telling you this on air, would I just
want to see what the stuff looks at so I
can report it back to you.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I've got some young people on the team who know
what's going on in the world much better than this boomer.
So they'll give me some hot tips and I'll talk
you through it shortly. By the way, update in the
Coldplay kiss cam video, the woman has now resigned, So
this is the woman who's the h arch. So you
had the bloke lost his job, woman's lost their job.
We've got all the scalps we possibly can, I would say.

(06:06):
Thirteen past four.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
It's the Heather d pussy Allan Drive full show podcast
on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZEPPI hither.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I'm not trying to be nice, but I don't I
don't mean to be nice, but I don't think that
you're a boomer. Well no, I'm not a boomer, but
I am a boomer my spirit. If I need the
young people to tell me how to find the drug
by the way I did, I'll run you through it
in a minute. Sixteen past four, Jason pine sports talk host, Hello, Pony.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
Is Pony there?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Oh, don't know, don't know where Piney. Now, they're waving
at their hands at me. They don't know where Pineyers.
They will find Piney. While we're waiting for Piney actually,
why don't I tell you about the drugs? Okay? So
what it was was that I didn't look stop texting
me and telling me I shouldn't be talking about this
on near This was in the Herald. If it's in
the Herald, then it's okay to talk about it. Okay.
So what it is, I don't recommend that you obviously,

(06:58):
just so that this is consider this. Consider this a PSA,
like a public service announcement, so you know what your
children are accessing. So basically, you go onto the Facebook
marketplace and you type in mushrooms, simple as that, and
then you look at it. And what my problem was
was that I had my radius for the search only
set to Auckland, but when I expanded it to the
whole country. Let me tell you, you have got listing

(07:20):
after listening after listening after it's just it's incredible. It
is incredible that they are in Reeft and they are
in Westport, they're in Christ, they're in Lincoln, they're in Christ.
You share in Christ, you share imported or are? It
just goes on and on and on. It's like fifty
bars forty five bucks. So there you go, watch out
what your children are doing. On the Facebook seventeen past four.
You there now, Pony, I am here.

Speaker 8 (07:39):
I've been here the whole time listening to you.

Speaker 9 (07:41):
Have you.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Cruel and Unusual punishment cruel and I've loved it.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
I've loved it.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Poney, tell me about the Black Ferns team. Are we
expecting anything here?

Speaker 7 (07:52):
Ah?

Speaker 8 (07:52):
The big I guess point of interest is whether Ruby
Twey will be named or not. The site is meant
to be named, said to be named in about an
hour from now. I'm on my way out to Upper
Heart where it's being announced. And Ruby Towey, we know
what a big influence she's been on the side, was
on the side at the last World Cup back end
of twenty twenty two. Is there room for her in

(08:14):
this current squad? She wasn't selected initially for the most
recent matches against Australia, but came in after a couple
of injuries. Will she be there? Won't she be there?
That's probably the biggest point of contention. There's a lot
of competition in the outside backs, with the likes of
Poorschell Woodman Wickcliffe, Caitlin Carlo, Letty Ainger, the new girl

(08:35):
on the block, Braxton Sorenson McGee. So will Ruby Towey
be squeezed out? Maybe we'll find out in about an
hour or so from now. Otherwise it's said to be
a fairly consistent squad given what Alan Bunting has produced
over the last year or so.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Good stuff. Okay, and now listen on the Warriors. Are
they going to beat the Titans?

Speaker 10 (08:52):
Well?

Speaker 8 (08:52):
I think I must have eraised this from my memory, Heather.
But last year the Titans beat the Warriors sixty six six.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
A graceful one, wasn't it, Poney.

Speaker 8 (09:03):
I know I'd completely forgotten that, and I think maybe
my memory was protecting me from the anguish of it.
But I can't see the same thing happening again tomorrow.
That was on the Gold Coast. The Titans were bottom
at that time as well as they are now. I
just think there's too much in the Warriors team for
that to happen again. They got home off the back
of Lacquahalli Semas brilliant, so we could go against Newcastle.

(09:26):
I get the feeling they'll be okay tomorrow, get another
two points and sort of consolidate themselves in the top four.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Brilliant. Look forward to talking to you again on Monday, Poney,
that's Jason Pine's sports talk post. He'll be here seven
o'clock this evening on news Talks. Actually, I don't think
you'll be here seven o'clock. He'll be here the weekend
Sport from tomorrow at twelve o'clock. Heather, I read the
mushroom article in the Herald this morning, and then I
looked it up this morning. I had two menus, including
hard drugs, and they could have delivered it within an
hour search mushrooms connect via telegram. Isn't that absolutely meantal? Listen,

(09:57):
this is why what you need to understand about Facebook
is that Facebook are not good people.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
They might be good people at home, but when they
get to work, something weird happens to them, and they
just don't care any more about anything. And they're like, oh,
are your children addicted to social media? Not our problem?

Speaker 11 (10:13):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Are someone selling drugs on Facebook marketplace? Oh did you
tell us about it? Don't care? Oh did somebody rip
off your face for a scam? Are they pretending to
be Mike Hosking selling you I don't know, some heart
pools or something. Don't care. They're just they're brutal and cutthroat,
and I wouldn't trust them. So when I look for
every opportunity to give Facebook a hard time, I don't
know about you, but this should be evidence of why

(10:35):
you should. Also now there is a bit of a
shakeup going on with the way that we fund the GPS,
and we're going to talk about this later on in
the program after five o'clock, because before what was happening
is we were funding the GPS based essentially on you know,
per patient, based on if you go to the GP,
what your age is, and what your gender is, and
obviously gender less so but obviously a significant thing like

(10:58):
if you're a little baby, you're going to need lots
of assistance, and if you're older, you're gonna need lots
of assistance, and somewhere in the middle you're probably not
that expensive. But now what we're doing is we're just
making a little bit more complex, a little bit more nuanced.
So now also going to fund for chronic health conditions,
for deprivation and the issue of many family doctors being
in rural locations. This should change very much how GPS

(11:18):
are funded. The question is, does this make a significant
difference as to whether you can get into your GP faster,
because that's all we care about, isn't it. I don't
care how you fund them, as long as I get
to see them when I need them. We're gonna ask
Samantha Merton of the GPS that after five four twenty.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
One, moving the big stories of the day forward ALBN,
it's Heather Dupas and drive with one New Zealand. Let's
get connected the news talks.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
That'd be Hey, did you know jeez, I'm sort of
like half I'm in two minds about whether I discuss this. No,
I think I need to. Okay, did you know that
Ozzy Osborne's adopted son lives in Wellington. He's an IT technician. Yeah,
he lives there. He lives there with his wife. What's
his wife's name again, Joe Anne Ane lives in Wellington
with him. They moved there five years ago. I know

(12:03):
this because basically it's been all over the news today.
It was in the Daily Mail and then it was
picked up by the New Zealand media. But the reason
I'm talking, why I'm in two minds about talking about
this is because I don't know that you need to
know this that well, you might be fascinated by the
fact that he lives I supposed to some extent, I
am like, oh, that's called Elliot Osborne lives here. Whoop too? Yeah,

(12:25):
well go for you, go you. But then this is
what I found somewhat weird about it. So it was
reading the Herald article, which is my favorite publication obviously,
and in it it told me exactly where missus missus
Osborne works and where the son, the adopted son works,
And I thought, now, why do I need to know

(12:46):
this is? This is quite strange, and I thought, I know,
fair play, fair play. They probably just ripped it right
off the Daily Mail like thet No, the Daily Mail
didn't even print that, so I thought, well, surely they
got it from so No. Stuff didn't print it, The
Post didn't print it. Radio New zeal It was literally
only the Herald. Do you actually need to know where
these two clowns work?

Speaker 11 (13:06):
Was?

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Shoulds? They clowns are not clowns at all. They have
very nice people who have suffered a bereavement. Probably do
you need to know where they No? I don't feel
like we need to know where they where they work?
Is that to me was quite strange, and especially at
a time where We're like, you know, very deep in
a conversation about about civilian privacy. Alah, the two who
got busted having an affair at the cold Play concert,
We're like, is that really necessary? And then go and

(13:27):
print where these two people work? Anyway, I withdraw, sorry,
apologize for the clowns are just popped out, because there
are a lot of clowns who need to be discussed
on this show today. They're not clowns at all. Full
twenty six here the Duper Hours, speaking of clowns, and
I'm talking about the Orange one here. Things got as
awkward as you thought that they would get when Donald
Trump finally came face to face with Jerome Powell after

(13:47):
calling him all kinds of things. What happened was that
Trump he popped over to Jerome's house the Fed Reserve
to go and check out the big renovation that's going on,
and he does not love what it's costing.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
It looks like.

Speaker 12 (13:57):
It's aid about three point one billion, one up a
little bit or alive.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
So the two point seven is now three point one. Yeah,
it just came out.

Speaker 13 (14:08):
Yeah, I haven't heard.

Speaker 10 (14:10):
That from anybody.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
For first, No, Jerome hasn't heard that at all, and
it's his renovation. So what's Trump talking about? Well, what
you can't see is he's like shaking his head the
whole way while Trump is talking about it, and then
Trump he whips out. Trump He's like, I'm not going
to have this. I can pre prepared, whips out of
his pocket a sheet of paper, unfolds it and gives
it to Jerome and is like, there's your bill. Jerome
puts his little glasses on, has a look at it.

(14:31):
But because he's a very clever guy who's running the
Central Bank and no flies on him, he spots the
problem immediately. There is a building in there that is
actually not being paid for because it was finished four
years ago.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Are you're including the Martin renovation? You just added our
entire capital?

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Ye?

Speaker 5 (14:44):
You you just added in the third buildings?

Speaker 8 (14:46):
When that is that's a third building.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's a building that's being built.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
It's been he was built five years ago with yeah
no Trump Trump Still it might have been built five
years ago. Trump's not going to have this. As a
real estate developer, what would you do with a project
manager or would.

Speaker 14 (15:01):
Be over budget.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Generally speaking, what would I do?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'd fire them? So do you know what, though, do
you not feel slightly heartened by the fact that Jerome
Powell is not going to take it from Trump and
that he is going to just face him down on stuff.
I quite enjoyed that exchange. I thought team Jerome for
me on this one. Hither OMG, Mikey Schuman is going
to be chasing Ozzie Sun down the footpath any minute. Yeah, well,
now that the information is out there, anyway, listen. Epstein

(15:28):
files more developments today. Dan Mitchinson on that shortly.

Speaker 9 (15:31):
News is next time fliers and only twice.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines. It's
hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get
connected news talk sa'd b.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
It would just come up with a quite a crafty
little way of getting money back from people who call
from post fines and stuff like that, which is to
come looking for their cars and then clamp them all
toe them.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Labor Party doesn't love it. Labor Party says, Oh, well,
it could be some nice lady is just driving down
the road with her kids and then you know her
husband's been a dickhead and he's racked up thousands of
dollars of fines and he hasn't. He's been to court
and he hasn't paid them. She didn't know anything about it.
She's driving the car and then you toe it and
now she's stuck. I mean, that's not how the real
world works for most people. But anyway, whatever labor, anyway,

(16:34):
Barrystop is going to run us through that shortly. Dan
Mitchison is standing by as well. Took us through Hulk
Hogan's legacy, and it's twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
It's the world wires on news talks.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
He'd be drive so hospitals in the Gaza Strip are
being overrun by starving children. Israel has been accused by
the WHO of preventing enough aid entering the enclave. This
man's son is suffering from malnutrition.

Speaker 15 (16:55):
I don't care if the war continues, but let the
borders open, let in for children. If he leaved his boy,
he will slip through our fingers.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Elaine Maxwell would have another visit from the US Department
of Justice tomorrow. The attorney, the Deputy Attorney General rather
has met with her today and here's her lawyer.

Speaker 6 (17:12):
Miss Marswell. He answered every single question. She never stopped.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
She never invooked a privilege, she never declined to answer.

Speaker 16 (17:21):
She answered all the questions truthfully, honestly answered that of
her ability.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
And finally, I believe in Google has been ordered to
pay an Argentinian policeman twenty thousand New Zealand dollars because
they put his bare bum on Google street View. What
happened was the cop was in his yards naked in
twenty seventeen when the street view car cruise by took
a photo of his butt. He took Google to court
because his neighbors and his colleagues and stuff have mocked

(17:47):
and mercilessly. Google says he should have built himself a
tall offense around the yard, but appeals judges have ruled
in his favor.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Business danrichinsonnew with correspondence with US. Hello Dan, Hello Heather,
So what has Gilain told them?

Speaker 14 (18:06):
Well, that's what we're waiting to find out. Like you
just mentioned in the World Wires, Supposedly she was very
open about everything. We were told that Mark Epstein, the
brother of Jeffrey Epstein, told The Guardian and Interview that
he you know, had he had the opportunity, he would
have asked asked her, you know, what kind of dirt

(18:27):
did you have on Donald Trump? Because supposedly, you know,
there is some dirt there that is not being released,
and I think that's what prosecutors and investigators are trying
to find out. Will we find out anything more tomorrow?
If so, is it going to be made public? I mean,
who's to say at this point?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Right right? This thing is getting I mean the fact
that it has been news now for three weeks is remarkable.
It has completely got away on Donald Trump. How does
he get through this?

Speaker 14 (18:53):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question too, because
I mean, Republicans have been turning against him, like we've
talked about before, and the Republican House to Be Mike
Johnson is questioning though, whether Maxwell could be trusted, and
I think that's what Donald Trump may be going for,
and that could be an angle where we could hear
more of as we get into the weekend, too, saying that, hey,
maybe she's looking for a pardon, and who would be

(19:14):
better to give it to her than a co conspirator
who is now and this is him saying this, who
is now in the Oval office.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I mean, it seems to me. Tell me if
I'm wrong. But the only way that this ends, as
far as I can see, is either it just peters
out over the summer for you guys, or he releases
the files.

Speaker 14 (19:32):
No, I think I think there's going to have to
be something a lot bigger in the news cycle, especially
in the summer months where things are kind of quiet,
to push this over to the side. So I think
you're right. I think they're going to be forced to
release more more documents.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
So you guys aren't having enough babies by the looks
of things.

Speaker 14 (19:48):
No, no, no, no, people are marrying later. They're worried
about their ability to have money, health insurance, all the
other stuff that you need, as you know, when it
comes to raising kids in an environment like this. So
what we're finding is that the fertility rate is d
off to an all time low this year. They're saying
few and I don't know where they get the one
point six because they see fewer than one point six
kids are being born for every woman here. And you know,

(20:10):
we're kind of one of the few developed countries that
you could sort of count on generation after generation that
would sort of replace itself. So the Trump administration now
has been you know, talking about this for the last
six or seven months, and they're saying, Okay, our birth
rates are falling here, and so they issued an executive
order that is going to expand access to reduce costs

(20:30):
for in vitro fertilization. And I'm not laughing about that.
What I am though, is that they're backing the idea
of sort of baby bonuses now that might encourage more
couples to have kids. I mean, you're talking about a
few thousand dollars, and you know, from having a kid,
a few thousand dollars isn't going to encourage you to
have another child when it costs hundreds of thousands of
dollars to get them to eighteen.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's also just like it's just not going to work, right,
because we've found that in Europe, but financial incentives to
have babies just simply doesn't work. There is something it
has to be that you actually want to have kids,
and we just need to accept many many people don't
want to have kids, right.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
That's true.

Speaker 14 (21:04):
Yeah, that's true. That or they're they're just realizing, hey,
you know, I want to have a life up until
a certain age, and I'm going to sort of postpone
it a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Hey, Now, so how long had Hulk Hogan been sick?
Because there were rumors going around then his wife had
denied them, hadn't she?

Speaker 14 (21:18):
Yeah, like the last month or so, there had been
these these these uh well, even radio shows over here
were doubling down saying that he had been ill and
that he was in a coma and he wasn't doing well,
and he couldn't speak, and he wasn't long for the
world here, and even as there well, gosh, I guess
it was maybe Monday of this week. These these horribas
were going around, and then of course we learned that

(21:40):
he had passed away earlier today. I mean, you know,
from from a cardiac issues, but he had undergone maybe
twenty or thirty surgeries, and he had had health problems
from steroid use and everything that he had done in
the in the ring over the last thirty or forty years.
So is this surprising? I think it always is when
somebody passes away, But when you look at his history,

(22:01):
maybe not so much.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
It's good to talk to you. Enjoy your weekend. That's
Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent, on that The Herald ran a
story today. I don't know if you remember this, but
back in the day, Holk Hogan had been outed by
a media website I suppose when you say media, well,
I suppose they are anyway, but like a mino media
website called Gorka a few years ago. I think it

(22:23):
was a sex tape or something like that. And he
then fought them over that, and that effort, that lawsuit
was funded by Peter Tel. Peter Tile had borne a
grudge against Gorka because they had outed him for being
gay or something like that that he hadn't chosen it,
they had chosen, and so he had a grudge and
so he funded hel Cogan's court case. So anyway, the
Herald wrote like just reminded people of this today and

(22:46):
their headline was how key wee billionaire Peter Tele bank
rolled blah blah, kee wee billionaire, key wee billionaire. Since
when is Peter Teel a key wee billionaire. He's an American.
I don't want to claim him anyway. Brings me to
one of my favorite subjects. Just because someone has a
New Zealand passport, does not make them a Kiwi. And

(23:09):
this happens a lot in the media. You see, oh,
Kiwi attacked in South Africa. Oh my gosh, you read Hey,
that's a South African who's got New Zealand citizenship. That
ain't a Kiwi. What are you doing? And you get
a lot of that.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Anyway, So apparently Peter Teeler is also a Kiwi. Seventeen
away from five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers
and get payment certainty. Actually, by the way, on Epstein,
which we're going to discuss a little bit, there is
a fascinating timeline that sheds light on this. I'll run
you through it shortly. It's quarter to five and with
me now with seenior political correspondent Barry Soberhy.

Speaker 17 (23:38):
Barry, good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
So what do you make of this passport redesign?

Speaker 5 (23:43):
Well, you know the thing is, I've.

Speaker 17 (23:45):
Got a relatively new passport and on every of you
took any notice of it, it apparently has Urufenowa R
t R printed above the New Zealand passport. I didn't
really take in he noticed what I got by a passport,
But it seems that certainly the Coalition doesn't like the idea.

(24:06):
Of course, some New Zealand First Coalition agreement with National
stipulates that the public service departments have their primary name
in English and they're required to communicate basically in the
English language. Interestingly, Winston, of course, has got a bit
of a slap down yesterday in Parliament by the Speaker

(24:27):
Jerry Brownly over his abhorrence word at row are being
used in questions in parliament. Jerry Brownie said, well, Winston,
of all people should know that he's been around the
world many many times using his passport. That Tiro is
on the front cover. Well, it will still be on
the front cover, but nevertheless the New Zealand passport, the

(24:51):
English will be at the top, so they'll be swapped
and the urufenawa Artro will be below it. Now, is
this doesn't make any difference?

Speaker 2 (25:03):
No, it really doesn't. And I was going to ask you,
is this because Winston wants it all? What's brought the sun?

Speaker 17 (25:10):
Well it's interesting, isn't it. That is Brock van Valden
that will be making the changes, and they won't come
into being until twenty twenty seven, when the current crop
of books have already gone out to people. And they
run out. They'll then have the new updated passport. But
it's Act that's doing this, not New Zealand first. But

(25:33):
no doubt Winston Peters will have a big smile on
his face today.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
It's quite a bizarre one. Okay, Now, what do you
think of these fine dodgers having their wheels clowned?

Speaker 17 (25:43):
Well, it's fascinating, isn't it. Court bailiffs, they're going to
be trialing hand held devices that can scan number plates
on parked cars and see if they've got any fines
or outstanding or any reparations. If there is a match,
then the vehicle could be clamped in toad. And I

(26:04):
don't know whether you heard Paul Goldsmith on with Homes
with the Homes he goodness, gracious man with hosking this
morning and him saying, look, there's too many people dodging
their fines. Apparently up to one hundred million dollars is outstanding,
and you'd have to say, okay, if they're not paying

(26:25):
their fines, they should be doing so or making an
attempt to at least. Well, the long arm of the
law is going to be right on and apparently during
breath testing checkpoints this weekend, that new technology will be
deployed as well. So if you are pulled up at
a by a booze bus, even if you're under the limit,

(26:46):
just beware if you've got any fines outstanding, then you
could end up being clamped. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Now, now this is not just for you didn't pay
your you know, you went and parked on Polsby Road
and got a fine and you haven't paid that yet.
This is properly like you've been through the courts on
this right. You are, this is this is you are,
by the stage a reasonably serious offender if they're going
to claim the car.

Speaker 17 (27:06):
Yeah, but although you know, fines tend to add on
to each other, don't they If you're not if you're
not paying them, then they go through the courts and
you know, penalties are added on and you know you
can end up owing a hell of a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Has Luxel been swearing again?

Speaker 17 (27:23):
No, he hasn't. But I just coming to the end
of the week, I think it's hilarious because there's more
stuff coming out about what Adrian or was up to,
and I can guarantee frickin wasn't a word that he used.
It would be the real version of that word. But
Chris Luxon that he just has shown this week just

(27:44):
how much pressure he's been under, because not only did
he use the word frickin' when it came to Chris Hipkins,
he's called him a smart ass. And for certainly for
Chris Luxon, that's pretty unusual. He's normally a very mild
mannered and well spoken individual. But on this occasion, obviously

(28:05):
Hipkins has got under his skin. But interesting, the Reserve
Bank stuff that's coming out, I can't see there's this
so much in this. So Neil Quigley said that Adrian
or left of his own volition and no doubt with
a few frickins on the way he walked out the door.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
And I'm sure he was.

Speaker 17 (28:28):
Annoyed that the government wasn't prepared to stump up with
the money that he believed the Reserve Bank should have
been funded through the next few years.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
That was a wild seguey, wasn't it? Okay? So are
you saying to me that you think nothing to see
here with the Adrian all thing. And basically, even though that,
even though his resignation may in fact have been prompted
by some serious and long standing concerns about his behavior
and when it was put to him that there was
some serious and long standing concerns about his he quit

(29:01):
that it's okay that nobody knew that and we were
just told he quit because.

Speaker 17 (29:05):
Said that he left of his own volition. I think
that's what people are saying. Well, he in fact, you know,
anybody who leaves a job like that under these circumstances,
they do it for themselves. They're not He wasn't sacked.
I don't think Neil Quigley has ever suggested that. Do
you know that?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Does it take a rocket scientist to read between the
lines that if he hadn't resigned, there was a chance
he was going to be sacked. Barry, he was presented
with a list of concrete allegations against him by about
his behavior. Apparently.

Speaker 17 (29:33):
Look, I've talked to people, a lot of people around
this particular issue, and the general consensus is that Adrian
or was not an easy person to work with. And
you know, it was pretty explosive and that was about
that was about it.

Speaker 14 (29:49):
That.

Speaker 17 (29:50):
Yeah, okay, you say, if he didn't walk, he could
have been pushed. Nobody really knows that, do they.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Hey, Barry, Well, that's why we ask the questions. Barry,
thank you very much. We'll wrap the political week that
was the quarter pas Sis. It's Barry Sober, senior political
correspondent eight away from five, putting.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
The tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
How about that week in Butterray and is it any cheaper? No,
it is not.

Speaker 18 (30:11):
In the midst of all of it was the Finance
Minister Nikola Willis, who as well as you looked like
you had a newsy.

Speaker 6 (30:16):
In your handbag and you're going to gun them down.

Speaker 18 (30:18):
If there wasn't a good explanation, then you came out
went international markets.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
I was very clear that commodity prices internationally are the
major driver. But that also I was interested in how
Fonterra in the supermarkets divide the costs and the margin.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
But you know that you know how they do it
because you worked for Fontira.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
I worked for Fontira nine years ago. I never we
was branded part of the business.

Speaker 17 (30:42):
Back Monday from six am, the mic asking Breakfast with
Bayley's real Estate Newstalk.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Z B either A friend of mine used to work
at the Reserve Bank and they were telling me that
Adrian or used to sign off his emails to staff
with chure. Somehow, that doesn't surprise me, because do you
remember the other day when he was when he was
in Taupo and he was wearing his bogan outfit.

Speaker 15 (31:03):
Is that a firable offense. I'm just going to go
quickly check some late.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
And has been sending it out. There was a side
of Adrian all that was actually quite relaxed, which may
actually be well. I mean, if you can be relaxed
and angry at the same time.

Speaker 15 (31:14):
That I mean, I mean, I don't think I complain
if someone said to me at a meeting, I mean
you no, I don't think they'd be agreeing with that.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I think that was that was that was giving us
a different perspective on Adrian, the myth, the man, the myth,
the legend, that he actually could just be a normal
human being. Heither love your show. Quick question, are you
a key we? What makes a key we? This is
a good question, and has told me to stop discussing
this immediately. He's terrified of BSA complaints about this. So
I'm going to come across like some kind of a
nativist or some like a migrant hater. I don't know

(31:42):
what makes a kei we. I've pondered this a lot
actually over the years. I'll tell you what isn't a
key We is Peter Teel because he's a news he's
got a New Zealand passport. But he's basically an American
who lives here, like some of the time he doesn't
even live here, so he's got a house. It doesn't
make him a Kiwi. I don't know. Somebody said, so
you have to be here five generations, which I think
is taking them. But I don't know is a keyw

(32:03):
Is it maybe the child of a migrant who speaks
like a Kiwi and has grown up here their whole life.
I don't know. I don't know. Tell me Answers told
me not to give my thoughts on this any further anyway, Epstein.
The latest overnight, as you heard, is that Gallaine Maxwell
has talked to the Justice officials right and is going
to talk a second time. But there is a very
interesting timeline on CNN which I think is the most

(32:24):
interesting thing that's come out today. It shows that everything
changed in May. Up to that point, Donald Trump had
been reasonably confident that they were going to release the files,
and all his little henchmen were really confident they were
going to release the files. But in May they start
talking it down and playing it down, and they don't
want to release it. What happened in May? In May
we now know Donald Trump was told that he is

(32:44):
in the files. For example, April twenty two, he says
in the Oval office about the files, he says, he's
one hundred percent all of these documents are going to
be delivered. That's April twenty two. In May, stops talking
about it, starts asking why we're interested in it, blah
blah blah. Anyway, we're going to talk about it a
little bit more. But next up GPS they're going to
have their funding change. Doesn't mean we get in faster.

(33:07):
Let's find out news talks, d.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Be questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust

(33:28):
for the full picture. Heather Dupasy on Drive with One
New Zealand, let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
That'd be.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Afternoon. We've got some good news finally for GPS. Their
funding is being shaken up. They've previously been funded for
their patients age and sex, but now that will also
include underlying health conditions and deprivation. Doctor Samantha Merson is
the president of the Royal New Zealand College of General
practitionersm with us high Samantha, Hi, how are you well?
Thank you? Is this going to reduce wait times for GPS?

Speaker 19 (33:59):
The the package as a whole will help us to
reduce wait times and the reason being that not only
is there the more funding for capitation and for people
that have higher needs, but also there's more funding for
our trainees so that we can get more through. So
both of those packages will help us.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Okay, So it's not because the fear initially was that
there was going to be the same same, same pot
of money that's just split up slightly differently. But actually
know there is more money is.

Speaker 19 (34:25):
There that's well, we believe that what will happen is
that it comes in in twenty twenty six. I can't
imagine that they're going to cut down our capitation as
a whole so that some practices will. We can't have
practices losing money, so therefore practices that will. We would
hope that it would stay level for everybody. But there

(34:46):
are those patients that are either high needs with home
will bidity, like lots of conditional health conditions in deprivation
areas or in rural areas will get more funding.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
So is it fair to say that if your GP
is in a nice part of town, you're probably not
going to see much change, But if you are in
a more deprived, poorer part of town, or in a
rural part of town, you're more likely to see there'll
be more funding there.

Speaker 19 (35:13):
Yeah. And it is about patients. It's about the patients
who need it. And I think what we don't recognize
is that people who are in deprived areas do need
more care. And if the fundings are saying with someone
who doesn't need the extra then the GP services struggle
to make sure that they're putting that extra care in.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, totally. Now you have a target. There is a
target of GP practice is seeing eighty percent of patients
within the week, which I think Kickson mid next year.
Is that doable?

Speaker 19 (35:43):
I think it could be doable. There's things like infrastructure
change as far as how you set up your patient
acute appointments and how you run your clinics and how
you look after the patients that you're looking after. Normally, anyway,
we wouldn't want that to be the only way that
you could get in that it has to be within
the week. We want people to still have choice. So
if you rang up and said, oh, look I'm away

(36:06):
in a week's time, can I see you in two
weeks time, that should still be allowed. You should be
able to see them the next day. So there should
be choice. But also we should be able to say, well, actually,
if you've got a high need or urgent requirement, that
you would absolutely be seeing within a week.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Right, Samantha, Thanks very much, doctor Samantha Merton. Presidents of
the Royal New Zealand College of GPS. Ever do for
ellens to Gaza and Australia's Prime Minister Anthony Albaneze has
released a statement condemning Israel for starving the children of Gaza,
in language that is much stronger than the statement that
New Zealand signed earlier this week. Unfortunately, ceaes Fine negotiations
have again collapsed. Now former Prime Minister and former head

(36:41):
of the UN Development Agency Helen Clark is with us, Hi, Helen, Hi, Heather,
is there any chance that we can end this before
those children die or other children going to die?

Speaker 18 (36:51):
Children are now dying every day, and do you look
at those absolutely shocking, shocking images of the children. These
children are going to have permanent damage to their development,
even their mental development, if they live at all, the
ones who are so emaciated and staffed. Let's remember that
starvation of a civilian population is a war crime and

(37:15):
people will be held accountable for this. But of course
people are dying while they are getting away with the
use of starvation as a war crime. So it is
really desperately urgent that the gates are opened for the
flow of aid which is sitting at the border with
the many UN agencies from UNICEF to the Whos and

(37:36):
many to get it to the people. And that's just
not being allowed.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Is the world doing all it can?

Speaker 19 (37:42):
No, not can.

Speaker 18 (37:45):
So the US could change this. The US could say
to NTNYA, who just stopped, We're not going to put
up with people being staffed to death. It hasn't done that.
I think the meeting that's supposed to occur was online
between the UK, French and German leaders tomorrow will be

(38:06):
very important. They need to be speaking with one voice
to Washington, d C. To stop it and to pledge
all efforts that they can make to support the humanitarian effort,
but until the US puts pressure on Israel, nothing is
going to change.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
And can we as a world put pressure on.

Speaker 18 (38:23):
Trump, Yes, we can, and New Zealand really does need
to come up much more strongly. You may have noticed
today that the President of France has announced that they
are recognizing the state of Palestine. New Zealand should be following.
This is a very important signal that we want an

(38:44):
end to the ongoing cycles of conflict and disaster. We
want the Palestinians to have their state, as agreed with
you all those years ago in the Oslo Accords, that
this has to stop, and New Zealand's voice needs to
be a lot louder.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Okay, what do you think, Helen. I mean, you've been
around a long time, You've watched a lot of stuff
happen in the world. Do you see this ending anytime
soon or unfortunately not?

Speaker 18 (39:07):
I think the critical thing now is for those three
major European leaders to be on the phone to Trump
after their meeting tomorrow, to say stop it. We're poised
to throw everything at resolving this situation, but stop the siege.
It is a siege. Civilian populations are being starved as

(39:27):
a deliberate policy.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Yeah, Helen, thanks very much appreciated. Helen Clark, former Prime Minister.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
For ever do for see Ellen's Yeah, there's some.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Interesting things happening in Israel, actually, some pretty wild stuff happening.
So I'll rang you through it later on, just give
you a bit of a break after that. It's pretty intense. Westpac.
Now west Pac has just cut it's the latest bank
to cut the forecast for what happens with our house
prices this year. So it was thinking that it was

(39:57):
going to go they were going to go up six percent.
They're now saying that they've dropped that down to four percent.
They're not the only bank doing it, you'll have I
think Benz was the first to do it. A and
Z have done it as well. And if you've wandered
and fortunately next year you're looking apparently at a six
percent increase of four percent this year, six percent next year,
so it starts to pack up. But it's got like
in order to pack up, it's got a fair bit
to do, ah, because do you know how much house

(40:19):
prices have gone up in the last six months? One percent,
So that's what you're seeing fourteen past five, seventeen past
five sad news obviously with the passing of Hulk Hogan.
He passed away from a heart attack at seventy one
years old. His real name is Terry Bollier. He became

(40:40):
the face of the WWF with Hulkamania sweeping across the
US in the nineteen eighties. Now Sharon Maser is a
professor of theater and performance studies at aut who literally
wrote the book on professional wrestling and is with us. Hi, Sharon, Hello,
how are you. I'm very well. Thank you. I can't
tell if you're excited to be on the radio or
sad about Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 11 (41:00):
I'm mostly amused and having flashbacks at the theme song.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Ah you, it was a good time. Did you ever
see him, riscle?

Speaker 11 (41:08):
Oh? Yes, I used to go when I started this research,
almost forty years ago. I hate to admit when I
first wandered into Madison Square Garden for the first matches, Yes,
Alkogan was the top of the card often.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, And is it true that he would stay behind,
he'd do his fight, he'd be the superstar. He'd stay
behind and he'd pack up the chairs.

Speaker 11 (41:31):
Well, he didn't pack up the chairs, but he'd be
in the center of the squared circle, still posing for
whatever kids were left, as the garden itself was getting
itself ready for other things, packing up the chairs as
fast as they could. I mean, madisons were growing very busy.

Speaker 14 (41:47):
You know.

Speaker 11 (41:48):
Basically you sneeze, they got right, you're over and have
you out and the next thing in. But he'd be
posing and signing shirts and entertaining into the last little
kid had left. It was quite extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Was he the biggest star in recently?

Speaker 11 (42:04):
I think for a time yes?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
And now who else is even comparable over the time period?

Speaker 11 (42:12):
Well, I think they were all superstars in their own way.
He wasn't the best wrestler, but he was the golden boy.
He was the one in the bright light at the
end of the night and generally the victor unless he
was the poor but draggal cheated upon and and you
know who had been robbed of his belt. You know,

(42:33):
he was the golden boy in the spotlight.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Yeah, when he won.

Speaker 11 (42:38):
At whichever WrestleMania was I watched, I couldn't get a ticket.
I was too late to get a ticket. I watched
at the Beacon Theater on a closed circuit television. You know,
back in the days before. We have all these fancy
things now, But back in the day, you could go
into the Beacon Theater in the Upper West Side and
watch it on a screen. And I watched russ Mania,

(43:00):
and when he won, the crowd went wild and was
taking pictures of the screen with their little flash cameras.
The end of the eighties, so you couldn't see the
screen any longer. I mean, I just wiped out the screen.
The fans were so excited.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Why did you say he wasn't a very good wrestler
or wasn't the best.

Speaker 11 (43:18):
Well, he was stiff. He had a number of moves
that he could do, but he wasn't a great elegant wrestler.
He had his signature moves. He was best at working
in the audience, and he did that really, really well.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah, did you know that he was He got baptized
a couple of years ago.

Speaker 11 (43:36):
Wouldn't surprise me?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Why wouldn't I surprise you? Because that seems so out
of step with somebody whose whole persona is this you know,
aggressive wrestling character, pumped up on steroids.

Speaker 11 (43:47):
Yeah, but he was mister Virtue. He was you know,
the you know, whole cam maniacs. Take your vitamins, follow
the amendments. I mean it was the kind of fervor
that you would associate also with you know, I don't
know the Power Team, who are bodybuilders of Jesus at
the same time, and you know, big evangelical kinds of movements.

(44:11):
He was the same, big tent kind of performers. So
it doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Okay, Hey, Sharon, thank you. That's fascinating. Sharon Maser, Professor
of Theater and Performance Studies at aut Listen, do we
need to talk about this business of the passport because
I'm getting a lot of text like hither. If you
don't think moving out heat or to below New Zealand
on the passport matters, you're completely out of touch. Most
of us would want it removed completely well count it. Okay, okay,

(44:36):
you asked for it. You sent me a lot of
texts on it. So we're going to talk about an expert. Firstly,
to talk about Epstein five twenty.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
One informed inside into today's issues. It's hither duplicy Ellen
drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected. News talks
had been.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Hey, news just out Ruby Tooey has been left out
of the Black Fern. So we have a chat to
the Sports title when they're with us shortly on that.
Right now, it's five twenty four. Listen, I hat to
say this, but I am joining the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theorists,
or at least I'm kind of joining, like on the
fringe of this thing, because I am now convinced, are
you not, that Donald Trump does not want to release
the Epstein files because he's in them and it's embarrassing

(45:17):
to him or something, and there is no other reason
why he doesn't want to release them. I mean, that's
pretty clear from the timeline that I was telling you
about before, right that he was sounding really confident about
releasing them all the way through to late April. But
then come May, when he finds out the extent of
his involvement in the files, suddenly he goes quiet on
the files, and all his lieutenants start playing down the
files as well. Everyone, including serious commentators, are now saying

(45:41):
that the Justice officials are going to strike a deal
with Gilaine Maxwell when they finished talking to her overnight.
And remember she's been basically dead to the world up
to now. But suddenly, when there's trouble over Epstein talking
to her again. The theory goes that she gets out
of jail I early, either because she gives them new
names to prosecute, or, more likely, she promises to say

(46:01):
publicly that Trump committed no crimes and there's nothing to
see here. What kind of a strategy is that No
one's going to believe that? Who's going to believe Gallaine Maxwell,
when she pumped bipe seven, says, I know Donald Trump
was innocent, nothing to see here, or but by the way,
he's letting me out of jail early, come off it.
The only way for Trump to get out of this
is for him to release the files now, isn't it,
which is the very thing he said at the start

(46:22):
that he would do. I don't even think that waiting
it out is going to work. Normally that would work.
But if there's one thing we know from our favorite
conspiracy theorists in our families, it's that they do not
get bored of their favorite conspiracy theories. They spend a
lot of time, a lot of time trying to prove
that they were right after all, which is why, for example,

(46:42):
we're still talking about JFK's assassination sixty two years later,
we are in week three of this. Now Trump can
let it drag on if he wants to. But the
longer that this goes on without him releasing the files,
the more it looks like the files are embarrassing or
worse for Donald Trump himself, and the more that normally
rational people, and I would like to consider myself one
of them, start to wonder just how much the conspiracy

(47:04):
theories theorists have actually got right here, Heather duper Cil
the way on the actual legals of this. US Defense
Attorney Randy Zellen is with us after six to talk
us through that. Okay, Heather, why is it the bizarre
that English is the preferred language on our passports and
so on and so on? Okay, I I am. I

(47:25):
am not impressed. I'm not impressed by Brook van Velden
doing this today, saying we're gonna put We're gonna switch
it around, and English is gonna go first. Why is
this even a thing? This is silly, This is childish, right,
this is this is so unbelievably childish, because what this
is is, which if these two languages are more important
than each other, who's more important, who's more special? Is

(47:46):
it indigenous people or is it the other people? Is
it the immigrants? That is a silly argument to be having, right,
And look, I'm not picking sides in who I blame here.
I blame both sides for this. I'm disappointed in both sides.
I'm disappointed in the likes of Winston Peters jumps up
in the house and says, oh, you can't say the
word out here at all in the house because the
name of the country is New Zealand. Wouldn't come on today.
A maria is said is an official language, It's allowed

(48:07):
to be spoken in the house, and using the word
out heat or for the name of the country is
perfectly reasonable. We all understand what's going on there. But
I also blame I also blame the other side, right,
I blame the side that thinks we have to have
a Maori and an English name for every single government
department and we have to say both of them at
the same time. Like if you go to another country,
they don't force you to do that because they're actually

(48:28):
grown up about languages. So yeah, I'm not stoked about this.
I just I feel like it's incredibly childish and I'm
disappointed that we it's come to this because what do
you think is going to happen next? Next? Woe clot
we get in is just going to switch it around?
And what we can keep doing this for the rest
of time? Are we use us next?

Speaker 1 (48:51):
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Speaker 10 (49:00):
That'd be.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Apparently happy news for TV and TVs. It has managed
to secure the rights to the fee FIR World Cup
next year, which is the biggest sporting event on the planet.
And apparently this is according to Shane Curry's column. He
writes a fantastic column in The Herald. If you don't
read it, it's called Media Insider And apparently, let me
quote anyone who thought that Sky's firesale purchase of TV

(49:34):
three this week would create a broadcasting monster capable of
blowing TV ins int and other rivals out of the water.
Has not factored in the digital investment which allows media
firm six. But basically what he's saying is anyone who
thought that is wrong, and that would be me. Anyway,
we'll talk to the sports tittle about it shortly it's
twenty four away from six right now. Now, let's have
a chat about alcohol. Supermarkets and bottle shops are under

(49:55):
fire for selling high strength bears. Now these days you
can find beers on the shell that actually go up
to past sixteen percent alcohol by volume. A group called
Communities Against Alcohol Harm have called on the government to
ban those high strength beers from sale sale. Dylan Firth
is the executive director of the Brewers Association and with
us Hi, Dylan, yeah, high here for how you going?

(50:16):
I'm well, thank you? Is there a problem here or
nothing to see?

Speaker 13 (50:19):
No, I don't think banning something is kind of a
bit of a jump in this instances. You know, we
look at the kind of stronger beer sector and we
see the volumes that are actually be sold compared to
you know, most beer in New Zealand, and it is
a really small proportion. You know, actually strong beers is
over five percent, so you know, some of the lower
stuff and there quite a lot of craft as well
can be up to you know, ten eleven percent. So

(50:40):
you know, banning something really removes a whole lot of
different variety in what consumers have as choice. There's a
number of other products as strong such as you know,
spirits and wine as well that you get that are
readily available. So I think it's a bit of a jump.
But you know, we also have acknowledged that these individual
licenses go through the licensing process. You know, there's conditions
and be put on them. There are other means to

(51:01):
kind of address some of the issues if there are
concerns about specific areas.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Tell me how much does one of these strong beers cost?

Speaker 13 (51:09):
Oh, look, it really depends on the products. There's loads
of different stuff. You know, if you're looking at a
like a nine percent stout from a craft brewer, it
could be anywhere from ten to fifteen dollars. There's a
cheaper beers that are available, you know, seven, eight, nine dollars,
but not for those really strong ones. I wouldn't be
that low.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Ad I mean because still in part of their argument
is that what they're worried about is young people going
and buying a couple of these beers and getting absolutely smashed.
But that doesn't make any sense to me because a
bottle of wine is quite a bit stronger than these beers,
and you can buy a bottle of wine for about
fifteen bucks, So you know, you might if you outlaw
these beers, kids just going to do the wine instead,
aren't they.

Speaker 13 (51:47):
Well, I think, you know, you've got to look at
it reality. You know, how many people are actually just
looking specifically for this Bankford buck type thing. And I
don't think it's a huge amount. You know, there might
be some people out there. It has the drinking behaviors,
and you know, overall we are seeing that decline easy
on the hazard of drinking. Volumes that are measured by
a Ministry of Health are at their lowest ever level,
you know, and so and also overall alcohol consumption has

(52:08):
been declining, you know, by thirty thirty percent in the
last thirty years. So, like you know, trends that are changing.
You know, if you're pointing out one individual thing, well
you can, as I said, you know, looking at the
licensing opportunities, you can really address it specifically in there.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Why is it that some beers end up so strong?

Speaker 13 (52:24):
Oh, look, I mean it's people look for different things.
Some people enjoy it two and a half percent beer,
some people look for a sixss in beer. There's quite
a big flavor profile and alcohol itself. Yeah, so that
actually changes things. You know, there's different styles that go
better with a stronger flavor. West Coast i pas are
particularly strong style. Some of there's some heartier double I
pas things like that. So you know, it depends on it.

(52:46):
You know, that's the whole thing about having choice and options,
and if we're trying to reduce harm, I think there's
definitely other ways.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
To tackle it.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Good on you, Dylan, Thanks very much, Dylan, First Brewers
Association executive Director. You know what can I love? I
love a beer. It's definitely my favorite beer. And whiskey.
Don't bring don't don't bring me near wine. I just
I'm over it. I'll have like a nice glass of
red wine with maybe a steak or something that would
really or whatever. But a beer. I love a beer,
but I have had my fill of Kraft beer if

(53:14):
I'm if I'm honest with you, like occasionally I mean man,
but nah, not really. And my brother loves a loves
loves He's tacky as he's basic. He loves a corona.
That's what he'll go or go buy a twenty four
pack of corona and then I'll do one of those
stupid vortexes, you know, like he's like that kind of
a kid anyway, so father of three. So anyway, he's
got me onto the coronas now. So if you like,

(53:37):
because here's the thing, like being boozed is not that
fun actually, and so when you go out, unless you're
like setting out to be a bit boost, if you
go out for a lunch and stuff, a Kraft beer
can be a little bit tiring. Can't do you have
a craft beer and then next minute you're like, oh,
I'm sorry, I need a nap, and you can't have
a nap because you've got children. So what you want
to do is you just want to have a nice
little corona, don't you Just a little nip, just just

(53:59):
that it's just a tidy little drink that is going
to be You can say I had a nice beer,
it was enjoyable, thank you, but I'm not on my
butt now. So anyway, that's a piece of advice to
anybody going out and buying a twelve percenter. You don't
need it. Twenty Away from six.

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Usik Parker would now be worthy of a stadium in
the UK and it would be a global television it ends.
I don't think it's as credible for Usip to go
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Speaker 16 (54:49):
He's already beaten.

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Speaker 2 (54:59):
On the huddle. With that the sports title this evening,
Clay Wilson News Talks, they'd be sports news director and
Paul Allison News Talks he'd be rugby commentator. Hello lads, whatever, Paul,
why's Ruby two? We've been left out? Or she just
not she hasn't got the form anymore.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Well, she's more of a seven's player.

Speaker 20 (55:14):
I know that she was in the New Zealand team
that won the World the World Cup back in twenty
twenty one. She's only played ten test matches and she
is a real public favorite in terms of a personality.
She's got some skills. I don't think it was a
major surprise when she was left out because she was
left out of the recent series against Australia, and then
she did finally come back and scored a couple of tries,

(55:36):
probably put herself.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
Back in contention.

Speaker 20 (55:38):
But you've only got so many spots in the fact
that she's I know it's young compared to me, but
old compared to some rugby player. She is now thirty three,
and it's a young person's game. I think it's not
really a surprise for me to see that she's not there.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yeah, not surprising at all.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
Player.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
I mean we were expecting this, weren't we.

Speaker 16 (55:57):
Yeah, I think so on you have to look at
some of the names that have come in since that
twenty one World Cup. He looks at like the Caitlin
Baracolo has been just brilliant since she's coming to that
Black Fans set up, and youngsters likes Brexton Soorrenson McGhee
who was one of the stars for the Blues and
siber Rugby all picky this year, so just other you know,
I guess younger kind of faces have come in and

(56:18):
while someone of who has great experience has kind of
been on the aid of this year. So I don't
think a massive shock. But obviously someone with a massive
public profile has done a lot of good around the country.
But you know, the real ideas they want to win
the World Cup and they want to pick the who
they think of the best plays.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yeah, now we're not surprised by Were you going to
say something, Paul.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
No, no, listen, listen.

Speaker 20 (56:41):
Hev to listen to your beer choice as well.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Heither I think I'm getting. You will not believe the
number of techs I'm getting. Hither, did you know corona's
made in China? Here the corona is now made in China.
Here the corona's brewed in China. Here the corona's made
in China. It's yang Se river water. What why do
we care? Why do we care? Paul?

Speaker 6 (56:58):
Of it taste good?

Speaker 20 (57:00):
But there are some pretty good Southern brews down on
this part of the country we're I'm.

Speaker 6 (57:02):
From, So, madam, go too far overseas. If you go
too far overseas.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Your guys beers, though, put me on the butt. They're
quite quite a lot to take, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (57:13):
No, come on tough enough, They're not that bad at all.

Speaker 20 (57:16):
You know, we've got the Pride of the South, which
has been around for the donkeys years, way back in
the eighteen hundreds, is still one of the one of
the more favorite public beers around.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
And I think it's only four percent.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Oh there you go, well there, So for me, Okay, Clay, No,
not at all surprised about Ruby twee. Are we surprised though,
that TV and Z has got the fee for World Cup?

Speaker 16 (57:38):
Well, I mean, I guess you know, tv Z has
been putting their head in the ring in terms of
sport for a little while now, haven't they, in terms
of chasing rights, And of course they kind of inadvertently
initially picked up the rights via Spark for some of
the stuff that Spark haad and that, you know, the
cricket being one of them. And since that's happened that

(57:58):
they've kind of dipped their and starting to put some
money into the mix here. So I mean, obviously there's
a lot going on with what's happened with Sky and
TV three, but to see TV and Z, I know
that they're really interested in trying to get more sport
and add to that offering. So yeah, I think they're
keen to do it, and if they can get it
for the right price, then they're obviously going to have
a crecktit.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, do you so? Paul I looked at that purchase
of TV three by Sky and immediately thought, right, that's
a TV Inz's out of the game now. Because we've
got the free to air thing sorted. Was I was
I being a bit hasty.

Speaker 20 (58:28):
Yeah, I think it's actually good from a public's point
of view. You're going to have more competition. It's good
for Sky because they've obviously got another platform and being
able to provide a free to air offering. But I
think TV and Z will still compete, So I think
it's good.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
You and me could have bought it for a dollar though,
couldn't we.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's where it would end though.
We would buy it for a dollar and then we go,
now what do we do? No, bloody, Yes, that's so think.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
I think actually it's a good move. It's a good
move for Sky.

Speaker 20 (58:54):
They've come out, they've they've been able to probably have
some back room efficiencies as well, so they're not starting
from scratch with this. They're able to provide different offerings,
and TVNZ, as Play said, has actually become quite competitive
in that space, taking over from Sparksport in some way.
So I actually think it's good from a public point
of view. We're going to have a very competitive situation,

(59:14):
and I think also the sports codes that do benefit
from some of these television rights will find that it's
quite a competitive game.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Happy days. Okay, We'll take a break, come back shortly
quarter two.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
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Speaker 2 (59:30):
Fact of the Sports Title Clay Wilson Paul Allison Clay,
is this USAK park a fight actually going to happen?

Speaker 16 (59:36):
I don't have great confidence if I'm want us with
you heither. I mean, as much as we were all
here in New Zealand love to see it. And the
thing is is that not just here in New Zealand,
but I think globally at least in the sport of boxing,
it's acknowledged by a lot of people that he kind
of deserves to be on merit. The next guy to
get a shot at USA can get a shot at
all these titles. But it's boxing heither, as with a

(59:57):
lot of sport, but especially fight sport, money tur And
you know the problem for Joseph is that while he's
his name has got bigger and bigger over the years.
You compare to the likes of as good Mate, Tyson Fury,
Anthony Joshua and now we've got in the mix these
influencer boxes, the poor brothers Jake Paul who's out there
boxing and there's talk about Usak fighting him. Is that
is Usk? He's maybe this might be his last fight

(01:00:20):
as next fight. Is he going to choose to fight
someone that deserves it the most and is going to
be the biggest challenge, or is he going to choose
to take their out, you know, the retirement option. Not
that he hasn't made a crap ton of money already,
but you know, to one final big paycheck and you
kind of feel like, even though it's been ordered by
one of these sanctioning bodies, that Usik might just give

(01:00:41):
up this belt. I really hope not. I would love
to see Joseph get his crack at Usak coming, given
his rise and what he's done, but I don't have
I mean, never say never, but I don't. I think
at this stage it's more likely to go in a
different direction for Usk and a fight.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
That's interesting. I thought if they were ordered, they were ordered. Now, Paul,
we have to give some credit to netbled New Zealand,
right because they've finally seen the light, haven't they.

Speaker 20 (01:01:04):
Well, I think it's sported under siege to be honest either.
I mean, they've got a New Zealand Premiership competition which
is really in doubt going forward. I know they said
next year they're still going to be six teams and
ten games, but they haven't really got a lot of money.
The fact that you're going to get more of these

(01:01:24):
players going off shore potentially they've still got to work
out what this exclusion looks like or this dispensation that
they're going to have for their model to be able
to play overseas, and the fact that they're able to
New Zealand players are able to get more money overseas,
I think will be a major attraction for them. So
if they're not going to stay in New Zealand, they
can't get money from television rights to be able.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
To pay the players.

Speaker 20 (01:01:46):
You'll have more players going off shore, which means it
will be less local players staying here to have a
domestic competition, So it could water down the domestic competition.
Could be good for some of our top top line players.
But I'm surprised that donning you two. I mean they
put the line on the scene and said Grace and Wicket,
you're not available. You got gone off shore. Now they're
saying well, if you go off shore, yes, we'll make

(01:02:07):
some rules around it and we'll have some exceptions and
will work out what that looks like. But I think
they've got some major problems nitball at the moment and
will be interesting to see how all this plays out
over the next three to four months.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, I totally agree, Clay. How do you save it?
Because it feels to me like the only way that
you can save it is if you join the Australian League.
But that don't want us, do they?

Speaker 14 (01:02:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:02:25):
And that's the challenges that come with that as well,
is that you know you, I would say, nip all
Australia aren't probably that keen to share the broadcast money,
which is where the money comes from for these competitions
in terms of the sporting organizations themselves. Do you get
money out of that? I mean, I don't know, So
how does that all work? Maybe that's what Newborn New
Zealand are considering. But there's no doubt, as Paul says,

(01:02:46):
that they're in a precarious position compared to the once
kind of lofty position they held as the dominant female
sport in this country, and that other sports have kind
of caught up and maybe even you look at the
likes of rugby have even gone past sevens has obviously
been a big factor for women's sports. So yeah, I
think there's some real work to do. While I think

(01:03:06):
the eligibility thing had to come, what is it actually
going to look like? How many players are actually going
to go? You know, like I spoke to Emilia Andi Canazio.
They out going captain to the silver Ferns. She doesn't
know the criteria yet. Karen Berger spoke in christ which
a couple of days ago silver Ferns defend it. She
doesn't know the criteria. So you know, how clear is
it going to be, how many players are going to

(01:03:26):
be able to do it? I think there's still a
lot of water to go under the bridge. Not to
mention the no broadcasting or for next year and what
happens there? How much money do they get and what
can the players earn playing here versus playing and likes Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
Yeah, well I'd be heading off if I could. Guys,
let's brilliant to talk to the pair of you. Thank
you so much, that is of course. Klai Wilson and
Paul Allison our sports tittle eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Randy Zellen, us attorney who's been on the show quite
a few times, actually is going to be with us
after six o'clock, took us through the Epstein files and
whether whether Gilaine Maxwell is going to strike a deal,
because you do not have to be it's okay now
to think that Gilaine, you're not a conspiracy theorist. If
you say over dinner to night, if you go with
your friends tonight and you're like, by the way that

(01:04:15):
Gilaine Maxwell's going to strike They're going to strike a
deal with her, aren't they to shut her up? That's
not a kooky thing to say anymore. So he's going
to explain to us exactly how that will work. Do
you remember I top five away from six? Do you
remember I was telling you the other day about this
chap who'd faked a CV and he claimed that he had,
and then Nicole McKee had appointed him as like a
visiting justice something or other whatever, like one of those

(01:04:36):
roles that you didn't know existed and you wish you
weren't paying people to do it. He'd claimed that he
had a law degree from Yale when all he'd actually
done was a free online course during COVID, and he
claimed he was a diplomat, and he really wasn't a diplomat.
He'd organized some sort of like a random summer camp
vibe type thing. It's just the delusion was just wild. Anyway,

(01:04:56):
he has changed his mind now and he has decided
he's not going to quit from all of his roles.
One of his roles is to sit on some sort
of a local board in Auckland, and then he had
the visiting justice role. They have various other things going
on was JP as well. He's emailed the media outlet
that busted him and he said he would like to
retract his story about the fact that he was going
to resign from the roles because he's had such overwhelming

(01:05:19):
support from his community that he thinks he doesn't need
to resign. It can basically unresign now. And the editor
of the media outfit said, well, you can't really retract
your comments about resigning because we've actually published the story
and it's on the record now. We can't sort of
like unpublish the story. So it's just that you can't
retract that, but you can do another interview if you
want to, to explain the support that you reckon you're getting,

(01:05:41):
because it doesn't look on Facebook what you're getting his support.
And he didn't give an interview, to no surprise to anyone,
but he did give a statement, and now it looks
again like he may well be quitting after all. Anyway,
The thing is, I don't really know who the man is,
and I'm not particularly fussed about the role. But do
you not find it fascinating? Because I find it absolutely

(01:06:02):
fascinating that there are people out there who just make
up stories, like really wild stories, Like it's a wild
thing to claim that you got a law degree from
Yale when all you did was what looks like maybe
a week long course on a week long online course
on COVID.

Speaker 21 (01:06:20):
And there is a part of me that it kind
of slightly admires how how confident you have to be
to do that, Like that's quite a ballsy thing to do,
isn't it to be like, yeah, I got a lad agree,
did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
But I'm saying it and you put it on your
CV and then you're like, you get all these public
facing jobs anyway. I mean, you know, like I don't
want to hire them, but you know, all power to
them because that was That was a stunt, wasn't it anyway?
Randy Zellen?

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Evening coming up in the next hour. Japan's Prime Minister
has lost the election, but he ain't going know where.
Peter Lewis will explain. Barry Sopall rap the political week
that was, and Gavin Gray is with US out of
the UK. It's eight past six. Galaid Maxwell will meet
with the Deputy Attorney General of the US for a
second day in a row tomorrow. Her lawyer said the
meeting was productive. This is the one today was productive
and she answered all of the questions honestly and will

(01:07:30):
continue to do so. Now this comes at the same
time that Donald Trump is under huge pressure to release
the documents related to Jeffrey Epstein, documents that we now
know he is in. Now Randy Zellen is a US
criminal defense lawyer Randy Hallo, Thanks for coming on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
I appreciate the chance to be on.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Do you think they're going to strike a deal with her?

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
What will be the terms of the deal.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
That I think is difficult. Right now.

Speaker 12 (01:07:56):
There are two paths for ms Maxwell to get home.
One way is if she assists the government, the United
States government, the United States Department of Justice, in prosecuting
someone else. That's what we call in the United States cooperation.

(01:08:17):
If she provides cooperation, if she provides that substantial assistance,
that will allow the government to go back to the
sentencing judge and say, Judge Glaine Maxwell helped us, we
were able to prosecute someone else or other people, and
in exchange for her cooperation, we would like you to

(01:08:39):
resentence her. It's what we call a downward departure. And
our laws do permit someone who has been sentenced to
be resentenced based upon their cooperation.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
So that's one way she gets home. The other way
she gets home.

Speaker 12 (01:08:55):
Is if she gets a pardon from President Trump or
President Trump grants her clemency. In those instances, it is
up to the president to determine whether or not her
entire conviction should be wiped out like it never happened,
or her sentence should be commuted, it should be stopped,

(01:09:15):
and she gets to go home. So those are the
two paths to get Miss Maxwell home.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
How does this help Donald Trump if at all, with
the situation that he finds himself in right now, which
is that everybody's starting to believe that he really is
in those Epstein files in a big way.

Speaker 12 (01:09:32):
Well to the extent that Miss Maxwell, and probably aside
from Jeffrey Epstein, there are a few people who know
better what actually went on, and to the extent that
she truthfully says to the Department of Justice, Hey, yes
they were friends, they did socialize on occasion, but no,

(01:09:57):
Donald Trump is not in the client book. Donald Trump
never did anything untoward or inappropriate. And in fact, I
recall when Donald Trump made Jeffrey Epstein persona non grata,
And anybody who says differently is full of crap. And

(01:10:22):
there is nothing to see here. And this is all
much ado about nothing when it comes to Donald Trump
and Jeffrey Epstein, Randy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
No one's gonna believe her if she says that, are
they like I mean, if she if she comes out
and goes, Donald Trump had nothing to do with it.
Oh and by the way, I'm a free woman now
I can get out. No one's gonna believe what she says,
are they.

Speaker 12 (01:10:42):
Well, the truth of the matter is, it doesn't matter
what anyone else believes. The only thing that matters is
what the Department of Justice believes and what.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
Donald Trump believes.

Speaker 12 (01:10:55):
And if that is something that they believe, then either
the government will go back to the sentencing judge and
it will be up to the sentencing judge to be convinced.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
And certainly, if the Department.

Speaker 12 (01:11:08):
Of Justice puts pen to paper and says we're able
to prosecute other people as a result of the information
she gave us, that unlocks the door for the judge
to say, Okay, miss Maxwell, I'm taking your sentence from
twenty years down to whatever, including zero, in which case,
just get the hell out of here and go back

(01:11:29):
across the pond. Or the President can decide to either
pardon her or grant her clemency, in which case the
courts have nothing to do with it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
The court is.

Speaker 12 (01:11:39):
Completely cut out of the process. It is between the
president and Gallaine Maxwell.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Okay, from a political point, and I take your point
that it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks, but everybody's
got opinions on it now and it is going global.
Something that was just a conspiracy theory before is now
known by everybody around the world politically. How does he
get out of this.

Speaker 12 (01:12:01):
If Gleayne Maxwell can again say they were friends, Yes,
Epstein was at his wedding, they did socialize, but over
and above that, that was the extent of it. And
I never saw anything inappropriate. I never saw anything untoward.
I never saw Donald Trump with anybody that he wasn't

(01:12:22):
supposed to be. And if that is something that the
Department of Justice believes, and if that is something that
President Trump believes, then that is an instance where miss
Maxwell could be on the right side of a pardon
or the right side of clemency.

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
In either event, she goes home.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Fascinating stuff. Randy, Thank you, Randy Zellen. You Iss defense
lawyer Barry Soople reaped the political week that was with
us very shortly. Just just want to bring up to speak,
just another development in this business with the protest and
the Essex Police that I have been talking to you
about over the last couple of days. What's happened now
is that the Essex Police chief has risen to the government,
written to the Home Secretary in the UK and demanded

(01:13:03):
that the migrants are who are in that hotel are moved.
This is the hotel where the protest and the counter
protest has been happening. He's written to her. He said
it is completely unsuitable for housing and housing migrants and
asylum seekers to be in that hotel because it is
clearly creating community tension. He hasn't heard back from her
and he's demanded a meeting. He hasn't heard back from
her at all. There is speculation that they will be

(01:13:25):
moved into a hotel on Canary Wharf in the center
of London because there have been mattresses and toilet brushes
delivered there and that's been going on for a week
while now. So keep an eye on this because this
thing is blowing up for the government quite badly. Fourteen
past six.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast
on my Heart Radio powered by news dog Zebbi.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Heather, there are hundreds of people on that list. How
can Trump drain the swamp when he's swimming in it? Well,
that is exactly the problem, isn't it anyway? Seventeen pass
six Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, raps the political week
for us of course at this time every week. Welcome back, Barry,
Hello again, Heather. I'm very much of the view now
that the price of butter thing is completely irrational, because
we're talking about eight dollars sixty and it's not the

(01:14:07):
most expensive thing that you have in your budget that's
gone up.

Speaker 17 (01:14:10):
No, absolutely not. And you know the problem for Nikola
willis it's the old political problem that you sound as
though you're going to go and talk to people who
could control the prices. Well they don't. It's the international
market that controls the prices of butter. You sound as
though you're going to be able to bring it down somehow,

(01:14:31):
and of course that wasn't the case, and it isn't
the case. I thought the performance of Miles Hurrel here
at Parliament he met with the opposition parties as well,
and he was chased down the road and I thought
it was very unsavory him being chased the way he was,
as though he was some sort of criminal. I mean,

(01:14:52):
the man is the chief executive of Fonterra, which is
doing extraordinarily well. And for a reporter yesterday in christ
to ask him how much he was paid, I mean, please,
who cares how much he's paid. This organization and the
farmers who belong to it are making this country a
lot of money, and unfortunately for the consumer in New Zealand,

(01:15:16):
when they make a lot of money out of Butter,
we tend to suffer. And that's exactly what's happening. So
there might be a lot of political posturing on this,
but that's all it is because they can't really affect
them now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Now, the debate about this is whether Nikola Willis has
come out of this badly or not right So, those
who watch politics very closely, I think she is now
developing or quite clearly has developed a reputation for talking
the big talk but not following through with actual action.
But has that actually has your average voter actually realized
that yet?

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
Well?

Speaker 17 (01:15:47):
No, I don't. In fact, probably the average voter doesn't
really care and doesn't really take much notice of what's
being said. But Butter's not going to come down anytime
soon if it doesn't de fond terror by saying that
the price remains high, and that means it's good for
the New Zealand economy. But there is a political problem here,

(01:16:09):
isn't there That if you indicate that you may be
able to affect the price in some way and then
nothing happens, then you do get a bit of egg
on your face. But the thing is, I think within
the next few weeks you're going to see what will
be a reasonably substantial announcement on supermarkets. And that's the

(01:16:30):
one thing that maybe Nichola Willison's You've.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
Better not be talking. This better be substantial because we've
had a lot of announcements on supermarkets, and that it'll.

Speaker 17 (01:16:39):
Be a third buyer. I would imagine a third entrance
into the market and they'll be fast tracked through having
a number of shops open around.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
The const I hope you're right that way, That's what
i'd imagine. Who knows, I hope you're right. Okay, Now,
the White Cousle Medical School, I mean, I have my
doubts about the medical school's costs in the end, Like
you know, it seems like a reasonable idea, but I
think it's going to be more expensive then than I think.
What do you think?

Speaker 17 (01:17:03):
Well, who knows? You know, I think, you know, we
have a problem with doctors in this country and attracting
them to the country, and particularly getting them into the provinces.
Now I think that's going to be the biggest problem
for a medical school at the Waikata University. How do
you tell a graduate doctor that they've got to stay
in the region from whence they came without bonding them.

(01:17:26):
And there's no question that they're going to be bonded.
But nevertheless, it is churning out more doctors. Hopefully most
of those who are turned out will stay in the country.
The cost of the medical school is fascinating, isn't it
Because during the election campaign it was costing three hundred
and eighty million dollars. Now the government is only putting
in just over eighty million dollars and the university is

(01:17:48):
coming up with one hundred and fifty through philanthropists and
their own money. So they've cut the cost dramatically. And
before they could even now else that the school was
going ahead, Act to put out a statement with David
Seymour claiming that they had got the cost down. Well,
you know that's politics again.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Now I am I remain I know you'll like David
Seymour and you think they're all dropcacks. But I remain
uncomfortable about what's going on with these the change to
in the enrollment. Have you changed your mind overnight?

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
No, not at all.

Speaker 17 (01:18:22):
I think you know, if people can't get their A
N tog and get on the roll thirteen days out
from an election, the advertising will be blanketed throughout the country.
And if people don't realize that the election is on,
and if they as many of them do, turn up
on election days, sorry, sorry, oops, I haven't enrolled, but

(01:18:45):
ole and roll now and vote. I think they've got
to be a bit more orderly than that, because the
problem now is Heather that we've got the election takes
what up to two weeks maybe three weeks to finalize results,
and that essentially is the special votes and people enrolling
on the day because there's a lot of checks and

(01:19:06):
balances got to go into that, so that drags out
the final result. But yeah, no, I don't think it's
a bad thing at all. I think people should be enrolling.
And I also think that treating at election polling booths
is something that's got to be outlawed, and that's so
going to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Yeah, Barry, thanks very much, Barry Soper wrapping the political
week that was for us. If you follow UK politics,
you might have been a little bit depressed to hear
that Jeremy Corbyn's name for the party that he's launched
with Zara Sultana is your Party. Because that's a shite name,
isn't it. It sounds like a crappy Elton John song,
you know what I mean. Anyway, it's not the name, thankfully,

(01:19:47):
it's just the name of the it's just the website
that they've set up in order to kind of get
people to sign up and stuff that they yet to
do the big reveal on the name. And I feel
like the pressure is on.

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
What do you think because we all a hot minute there,
we all thought it was called your Party.

Speaker 15 (01:20:02):
Maybe they're just setting the bar nice and low so
that no matter how bland or mundane the party namers
will be like, oh, at least it's not your party, dodgeable.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Can't get any worse than that. So yeah, that's the
game plan there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Six twenty three, Approaching the numbers and getting the results.
It's heathered duplicy Allen with the Business Hour and maz
for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
That'd be Yeah, we're going to have a chat about
that trade deal that the US trumpey has struck with
Japan when we're joined by Peter Lewis shortly. Don't know
if you've been following the drama about the jury and
the Aaron Patterson mushroom trial, but this is the thing
about them all staying at the same hotel as everyone else.
There is now an investigation. So what happened is that
the jury was supposed to be sequestered right all by

(01:20:45):
themselves and whatnot, but they ended up staying for about
a week in a hotel where there were seven journalists,
two prosecutors, and three detectives. And anyway, the judge and
the defense didn't know. It took six days for the
authorities to tell the judge that this was happening, and
then it took another two days before the defense was informed,
and the defense was only informed just hours before the
jury returned its guilty verdict. Anyway, they've started this inquiry

(01:21:07):
already had a speed bump. They've asked for the CCTV.
This is the CCTV and the cameras and the lobby
in the hallways outside the rooms where all the jury
members were staying. Here's no CCTV. It's already been erased,
so we'll never know. We will never know if they
were chatting to the seven journalists, two prosecutors, and three
detectives twenty seven past six in some ever do for

(01:21:28):
c Ellen Shoba's news.

Speaker 21 (01:21:30):
Speed for Cracks and Wi the comin Nation.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Planned had had a rather interesting team up get their
Madison Square Gardens show. They met up with the Democratic
candidate for Mayor Zora and Mandami Zoran if you don't
know as the Democratic Socialist candidate who took out the
establishment Darling Andrew Cuomo at the Democratic primaries. Anyway, Mam
Darmi posted his conversation with the frontman of Wu Tang,
which is Riza backstage at the concert.

Speaker 5 (01:21:54):
Thanks for having me, Thanks for coming.

Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
A real pleasure. Wow, it's a real pleasure to.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
Adda Will Tanks job.

Speaker 21 (01:21:59):
He said, you can make Brownsville a place where you
want to live exactly, and they could afford it and
they get the quality of Yeah, all right, so it's
a mission.

Speaker 15 (01:22:08):
So we'll tank financially.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
So it turns out that Zoran is actually quite a
big rap fan. But he's not just a fan. He
actually used to be a rapper himself. I know, never
never let anybody hear the stuff that you did when
you thought you were going to be a superstar with music.
He performed under the name Mister Cardiman and Young Cardiman,
and he even made it onto the soundtrack for the
Disney film The Queen of Kutswere. Here's a listen to

(01:22:31):
his song called Nanny Oh hold on, I have to
play it. Lord, I was trying to spare you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Here you go.

Speaker 22 (01:22:43):
Sound for you.

Speaker 9 (01:22:46):
There is the nnny hand of the bad time waits
Luger band songer.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
My damn s Hey, I don't hate that.

Speaker 7 (01:22:57):
I don't hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Do you know what that sounds like? That sounds like
what producer Sam would call freak music? Yes, is it?
It is freak music. Freak music is the music that
you know, back in the day you put on a
little bit of Marvin Gay Woo the Lady. Now that
news next, whether.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
It's Macro micro or just playing economics. It's all on
the Business Hour with Heather duper Cy, Allen and Mas
for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Gavin Grads can get us out of the UK shortly.
Here the Great Show. I've been listening since you were
interview with Helen Clark, but I haven't heard the other
information you were going to share about Israel that I
miss it. No, you didn't miss it. I just haven't
got around her. But thank you for reminding me. Bridget
So what is not specifically about Israel, but it is
about some far right Israeli politicians, and in particular Smotrich.
He's the finance minist of the one who's had various

(01:23:54):
sanctions put on him. I think we've actually sanctioned him.
And then also a settler activist called Daniella Weiss. Anyway,
a whole bunch of them had a conference in the
Knesset on Tuesday this week Israel time, and they met
to discuss a plan which would involve displacing Palestinians from Gaza,
then annexing the territory, and then turning it into a

(01:24:15):
high tech luxury resort for Israelis. Basically took inspiration from
Trump's Riviera of the Middle East idea, and it's called
the Master Plan for Settlement in the Gaza Strip. It
envisions the construction of eight hundred and fifty thousand housing units,
the construction of high tech smart cities. These are cities
that trade cryptocurrency and that kind of thing, and then

(01:24:37):
a metro system that runs across the territory. It has
been seen by the Guardian, so it's not making uppy stuff,
and it has been condemned by various other politicians who
are in Israel as well. But anyway, what is remarkable
about this is that the Overton window has shifted here.

Speaker 17 (01:24:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
If you had said this time last year that there
are characters within Israel who would like to have to
entirely remove the population of the Gaza strip and take
it for Israel, we would have said, oh, whatever, conspiracy theory,
conspiracy theory that has now been Trump shifted the Overton

(01:25:15):
window by suggesting it. And since then we have had
now so many reports that this is a real, live
consideration that you should absolutely accept that this is a
real live consideration, and that if you start moving people
into some sort of a concentration camp on the ruins
of Rafa, that's just the start of it. So yeah, everything,

(01:25:35):
everything starts to make sense if you think that Smattritchen
has a lot want to end up basically owning the
whole territory twenty two away from seven. Peter Lewis Asia
Business correspondent with US right now, Hey.

Speaker 23 (01:25:46):
Peter, good evening, Heather.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
Now, that deal that Trump has struck with Japan, is
that a good one for Japan?

Speaker 23 (01:25:52):
Well, it could have been worse. That's really the way
we have to look at it. He was threatening tariffs
as much as thirty percent on Japan. What they seem
to have got at the moment is a baseline tariff
of fifteen percent. That compares quite well with what other
countries in the region have got. Indonesia and the Philippines

(01:26:14):
got nineteen percent, Vietnam got twenty percent. But here's the
key thing. This is all about auto's. Autos are by
far the biggest part of the Japanese economy, and they've
been given a deal whereby most of the rest of
the world is paying twenty five percent tariffs on the
auto sector that's been reduced to Japan for fifteen percent.

(01:26:39):
But here's the issue. Since nineteen seventy eight, Japan has
not charged a single penny on auto imports from the
United States, whereas the converse is that the US has
been charging two and a half percent on cars twenty
five percent on trucks. Despite that, Americans still prefer to

(01:27:00):
Japanese cars to American cars, and the Japanese prefer Japanese
cars to American cars too. And this has nothing to
do with anti competitive behavior or pricing. What it has
to do with is the fact that Americans just simply
don't make cars that Japanese people want. So, for example,

(01:27:22):
their steering wheels are on the wrong side to start with,
and they seem reluctant to change that when they try
and sell their cars into Japan. They are huge gas
guzzlers in a country where there's an enormous tax on fuel,
and the cars are so big that they don't fit
down Japanese roads or into small Japanese parking spots. So

(01:27:43):
this is really the issue. It's a you know, it's
a consumer choice issue, and in many ways, the American
manufacturers don't make it very easy to make Japanese consumers
prefer American cars as opposed to Japanese ones.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
So, I mean, are you telling me that they're just
out completely out of interest? Is there no American car
that is actually a normal human being sized car? Are
they all messive.

Speaker 23 (01:28:08):
Well that most of them are very big, yeah, because
you know they're used to very wide, sort of free
ways in the United States. By contrast, you know, Japanese
cars tend to be small and compact. They have to
to be able to be sold in Japan. So you know,
this trying to sort of false consumer choice through tariffs,

(01:28:30):
I don't think is really going to work. You know,
the American economy the japan economy are market economies. They're
not command economies. So the other aspect of this, whereby
Japan says well, we'll invest five hundred and fifty billion
dollars into the US, it isn't Japan that invests that money.

(01:28:51):
It's companies. It's individual businesses and companies which go and
invest if they see opportunities in America. So I don't
think you can just decree a country will go and
invest half a trillion dollars in your economy. But when
they're they're not Chinese style economies where you can try
and dictate from above. This is all about consumers and

(01:29:14):
businesses and their choice and the opportunities that they see.
So on paper, it looks like not a bad deal,
but I just think in practice, we're going to find
over the months and years it's not going to work,
and there's going to be disappointment in this deal, and
we'll come back to to the beginning, whereby we'll be
looking at new measures to try and change the preferences

(01:29:37):
of consumers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
What's going on with the Japanese Prime minister That he's
lost but he doesn't want to go anywhere.

Speaker 23 (01:29:43):
Well, yes, he doesn't seem to want to go away.
He lost very badly. He's lost now both houses of
parliament in Japan, both the upper House and the lower House.
There's been all sorts of rumors in Japanese media that
is going to resign in August once we've seen the

(01:30:03):
tariff discussions completely put to bed. He denies that and
says he has every intention of staying on. The problem
is history is not really with him, because no prime
minister since nineteen fifty five has been able to stay
on when they don't have a majority in both the
upper and lower houses of parliament. Now, he says he

(01:30:27):
wants to protect the country's politics from instability, but I
suspect that he is dead man walking. I think fairly
soon there's going to be pressure on him to go
and resign, and probably the oldp is going to have
to have a big rethink about what it stands for
and how it reconnects, in particular with young voters who,

(01:30:48):
as we've seen in other elections around the world, have
deserted mainstream parties and gone for extreme populist parties, particularly
on the right wing. And that's exactly what we saw
in Japan. It was the same issues. It was the
cost of living. Rice prices in Japan have served one
hundred percent over the past year, and it's about immigration.

(01:31:11):
Those were the two big issues, and they were exactly
the two issues that have walked down encumbered governments in
other parts of the world over the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Same and much of the world. Hey, thank you, Peter,
lovely to talk to you. We'll talk to you next week.
That's Peter Lewis Asia Business, corresponding on the bigcaus like
have you seen the ram You know, the ram mute.
The ram mute has got surely to God has got
to be the biggest ute that we have available to
us in New Zealand. That's an American ute. I went
round to the BYD showroom, went to check out them.
It's very cool, by the way, all the stuff that

(01:31:41):
it's not actually that it's like the warehouse thing anyway.
That are a bunch of rams in there because they
also distribute them. And those vehicles are so enormous you
almost have to see it to believe it. Like the bonnet,
the top of the bonnet is at my shoulder level,
and I compare that to four weeks. Hold on, let
me just measure it quickly. Yeah, so you know the

(01:32:01):
old jeep, So I've got the jeep. The jeep is
the old Jalopi for the beach. I've had it for
fifteen years. It's a twenty year old cars. Nothing special,
but it's just a Jeep Wrangler. But it's like a normal,
normal human being sized car. That bonnet would be sort
of at my navel or just like maybe slightly above
my navel. That's a huge step up from a navel
to my bloody shoulder. Like these vehicles are so boog

(01:32:24):
so big, wouldn't fit down my driveway. Like we have
to completely redesign outry.

Speaker 15 (01:32:28):
I just can't let this go. So before you just
stood up to work out how high your jeep is.
Your jeep is not in the studio with you. How
on earth did you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Just memory? I had to you just.

Speaker 15 (01:32:38):
Needed to stand up and picture the jeep where the
desk is.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
I was manifesting it for the right right, okay.

Speaker 15 (01:32:43):
Or probably not a scientifically accurately, but it was accurate.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
No, but you know close enough, close enough, Heather. What
you just did with Rie Israel is like broadcasting that
the Greens had a meeting in Parliament with some basket
case and then said they had planned for something nice
one yes, no, I know, which is why I said
only some politicians. But hanging a tick in this story.
The Rans are the finance minister, the Greens are in government,
and what happens when you're in government the things that
you want to do can be done. So fourteen away

(01:33:08):
from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Talks dB, Kevin Gray UK correspondence with a Fello Gevin. Hi,
there have that Kevin, We've been speaking a fair bit
about Gaza on the show this evening, and that moved
by Macron to recognize a Palestinian state is a reasonably
significant one, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:33:32):
Yeah, very significant. So it's going to be the first
country in the G seven, the first nation in order
to recognize Palestine. And this is something which is going
to set him obviously on a collision course with Israel,
but not just Israel, also with America, the US saying
it strongly rejects Macron's announcement and calls the decision reckless.

(01:33:54):
According to the Secretary of State Marco Rubio. So, France
is saying that it will recognize the Palestinian state formerly
at the UN General Assembly in New York. And this
of course all about the urgent need for the warring
Ghaza to come to an end. And now there's quite
a bit of pressure as well here in the UK
on our Prime Minister to do the same, but I

(01:34:17):
think that's going to be unlikely, but he is under
huge pressure to do the same. It's a brave move
by France or is it a silly move by France? Well,
seeing the pictures out of Ghaza, you have to think, gosh,
is there not more that we can all do? And
maybe France has had enough with it so to speak.
So yeah, a decision that could get France into a
bit of hot water, or it could win Macron some

(01:34:37):
huge support.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Has Trump arrived in Scotland yet.

Speaker 6 (01:34:43):
Not yet.

Speaker 22 (01:34:43):
But this is a most unusual visit. It's not his
state visit, which is just coming up actually in a
little over a month's time, where he of course he
will be fated by the King and politicians here. This
is a private visit. He's gained to visit two golf
resorts that he owns in Scotland. But this is causing
a massive security problem because some five thousand police Scotland

(01:35:07):
officers are on duty at any one time for this.
Masses of security that he's brought Donald Trump was brought
over from America, plus all sorts of safe vehicles and
security measures and people in the local town. I mean
one of these towns, Turnbridge, is quite frankly, really small.
It's like a village, and it's going to be absolutely

(01:35:29):
swamped by all these people there to protect the president.
It's very interesting this Donald Trump is going to meet
the Prime Minister Secure Stama. He is going to meet
the Scottish government First Minister John Swinney. But these are
sort of unofficial if you like, trips and unofficial visits.
And I can't think of another US president who has
mixed business with pleasure, in other words, openly visiting them

(01:35:53):
as president, with all the presidential baggage that comes with it,
but on a private trip to promote his commercial interest
bits sailing close to the bones something here.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
Oh yeah, you know what. You're never never allowed to
use the word pleasure around Trump ever. Again, thanks very much, Gavin,
appreciate it. In Kevin Gray, our UK corresponding hither, here's
another theory if you re Epstein, bugger it. It's it's
a free for all, now, isn't it. We're just gonna
go hard on it, aren't we. Like we're in this now,

(01:36:23):
aren't we. We're going in boots and all into the theories.
Oh again, here we go here, yeah, nowhere into it
because the conspiracy. I feel like I need to justify
this to you. But this conspiracy theorists have got enough
right for us to be like, well, let's go for it.
And he's making it look weird, isn't he. Trumping Hither,
here's another theory for you regarding Epstein. They were going
to release it until three days after the big beautiful

(01:36:46):
bill got approved. A few were against it, this is
the Big Beautiful Bill, but then they changed after talking
to Trump. They may have found something that helps making
people's minds up, which is obviously in the files. So
why give that to the media. If they had something
on Trump? Why did Biden not release it? They've been
trying since twenty sixteen. So if you haven't quite well,
I do you know what? I like your logic. I

(01:37:07):
don't know if it's true or not, but you know,
as I say, it's free for all. What he's saying
is whole bunch of people didn't want to support Trump's
Big Beautiful bill, and then they got convinced after they
found out what was in the Epstein files. But it's
probably just not true. But hey, who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
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White Lotus.

Speaker 6 (01:37:46):
I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle chans,
and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable
chans I've ever.

Speaker 11 (01:37:52):
Wanted, or that they make your butt look amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Now, Sidney Sweeney is a big star, and because of that,
at the minute it god announced that she would be
fronting the ad for the clothing brand, the stock jumped
as much as twelve percent in New York. It added
two hundred and twenty eight million US dollars to the
market value. Completely untethered from reality, said the analysts. Basically,
what's going on is people are still gambling on the
stock markets. People who don't know what they're doing, you know,

(01:38:18):
like sitting on the Reddit threads and stuff like that.
They're just having a bit of a gambling because they
like Sydney. They went, hey, yeah, by those stock, and
enough of them did and it made a marked difference.
And by the way, double Denim, if there's one thing
that you take away from what I'm telling you right now,
double Denim is in because Sydney's got on the jacket
and she's got on the pants and it looks cool.

Speaker 15 (01:38:39):
An oh, I buried the lead today.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
That's huge.

Speaker 15 (01:38:42):
Back in the Saddle by Luke Colmes two play us
out tonight. This is brand new from Luke Colmes. I
thing I like about Luke Colmes is if you don't
know what kind of singer is just I mean the
song is called back in the Saddle. What is Back
in the Saddle going to sound like? There's exactly what
you would expect a song called Back in the Saddle
to sound like? He is exactly what he says on
the turn. He knows what people want and he gives
it to them.

Speaker 17 (01:39:02):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
Go on, give us a lit lip. I'm gonna sell
so well. A bit more Metallica than the average country song, though,
isn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:39:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
I suppose so, but Ozzie Osborne isn't it anyway? Enjoy
your weekend, See you on Monday.

Speaker 9 (01:39:29):
Saddleboy who does is Well is great? Christos Pistol Time Telcorder.

Speaker 7 (01:39:52):
Sad from Back in Los Again.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
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