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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Not questions, answers, facts, analysis, The Drive show you trust
for the full picture. Heather dup c Ellen Drive with
one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Afternoon. Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Trivan Mallard
is being sued by an eleven year old. We're going
to speak to the lawyer representing her. IID wants to
lift GST. We'll find out if that's a smart idea.
And Murray Crane, the man who makes beautiful suits, doesn't
believe Auckland CBD is there, so he's signed on for
another twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Heather duper c Ellen.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Question for you, should Moana Pacifica be saved at this stage?
There is a really strong chance that this has been
more Onana Pacifica's best and last season in Super Rugby?
Do you want them to have another one? And here's
the second question for you, if you do, how much
should the taxpayer put into save this rugby club? Should
it be seven million dollars because that's apparently what they're short.

(00:56):
The final order money is gone. It's understood that Sky
TV is pulling its sponsorship of half a million dollars
a year It's also understood that World Rugby wants to
either reduce or completely cut the money that it puts in.
That's about one point seven million dollars a year. So
when you add it all up for a club that
costs about twelve million dollars a year to run, it
is short maybe seven million, maybe most of the money
that it needs. My answer to the first question I

(01:19):
asked you is yes, Miner Pacifica should be saved. There
is a very very good reason to have a super
rugby team dedicated to giving professional opportunities to players from
Tonga and Psalm War. I'm not sure it actually works,
but the idea is worth it. The idea is worth
seeing if it can work. And the other reason that
they should be saved is they were basically the best
success story out of the past season. My answer to

(01:41):
the second question is nothing. The taxpayer should put in
absolutely nothing. Now I'm preempting what I think is going
to happen, but I'm pretty sure it's going to happen, don't.
You can almost guarantee there's going to be a request
for taxpayer help. I've already heard it suggested by commentators,
especially given how big that funding gap is I mean
seven million dollars in the twelve million dollar bar. It
does a lot of money to find and I doubt

(02:02):
very much you're gonna find it from corporate sponsors. Do
you think so? Sky TV is skinning the game? Sky
TV actually needs this squad to do well, and even
they apparently are pulling their sponsorship deal. This is not
a taxpayer problem. This is why I don't want money
to go into it from the taxpayer. This is a
rugby problem, right, This is a problem for New Zealand
Rugby and Rugby Australia to fix. They are the ones
who own the Super Rugby competition. They are the ones

(02:23):
who make money off the broadcast deal. They are the
ones who need to save this team. I hope they
can sort it out, though, because in a Super Rugby
competition that honestly failed to excite people during the regular season,
more Onna Pacifica were one of the best stories ever.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Dup CL nine two nine.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Two is the text number. Standard text fees apply and
we will be discussing this with a sports title later on.
Right now, though, and what's being described as a pretty
big move, the National Aerospace Center in Canterbury has been
given permanent airspace for test flights. Now, the center's already
been used to test advanced aviation and space technology, so
drones and space planes and stuff like that. John Holt
is the executive director of the National Airspace Aerospace intern

(03:01):
is with us. Now, Hey, John, how are you well?
Thank you? How helpful is it?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well?

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Look, it's really great.

Speaker 6 (03:08):
But maybe firstly, our most common name is Tarfucky because
we're a joint venture between the EWE and the New
Zealand government. Cool and this has been a joint effort
to get the space above KA three test but where
we're physically located to basically give us a global advantage
in building a new vertical in our economy, which is

(03:29):
all about testing, refining, and researching aerospace probably most commonly
defined at the moment as these dasher drones.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
So does this basically just take the paperwork out of it?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
So it's really difficult when you're in the early stages
of creating an aircraft to find places where you can
operate safely and sort of be comfortably not that far
away from the public, but making them feel that they're
safe with some airspace specifically designed for them to stay
with them.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Sure who was using the aerospace center.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
We've got a range of users and probably the most
exciting one is well, I mean they will have their
own positives, but Dorn Aerospace has certainly received a lot
of publicity recently. So they are the first aircraft since
the concord in a private context to actually break the
sound barrier.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Do you imagine that you will get more business as
a result of this?

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (04:25):
Absolutely, It's incredibly important that we have something so close
to facilities like christ Church and the airport and Littleton
Port for these test companies to get their gear in.
But regulation is one of the biggest barriers for these
new aircraft types.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, Now do you hope to be able to expand
what you're doing here? Is it possible that you could
actually take over more space?

Speaker 7 (04:49):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Well, look at the whole idea is to have these
facilities readily available in the right places.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
So this is one of well, this is.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
The first for New Zealand and it includes the land
plus the airspace, but certainly not off the cards that
there'll be others around the country.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Okay, John, thank you very much, good luck Tenarquer talk
corded or my Ahorapita John Holt, executive director of the
tar Fucky National Aerospace Center. Heather, tell me, how old
is this eleven year old who is suing Trevor Mallard.
He's a twit, but I'd like to know who's paying
her lawyer? Well, i'd imagine the Well look, okay, so
the lawyer, Actually, we've got to discuss this. The lawyer

(05:29):
is Tudor Clee. Now we've had Tudor on this show.
I think that Tudor was on the show representing Charlotte
Ballas and I think Tudor's been taking a few of
these mandate cases. So I feel like Tudor sort of
developing an area of expertise in the COVID related stuff,
do you know what I mean? So you can see
that it's possible he's doing it pro bono. It's possible
also her parents are doing it. But we will discuss

(05:51):
it very shortly. I just got to update you on Lord.
Lord's the big story of the day for people who
are into into the entertainment, and the vinyl has arrived
in the hands of the fans who were who opened
it up carefully and were shocked to discover a giant
photograph of Lord's bits inside. It's not on the front

(06:12):
front of the which is why we didn't know until
everybody opened it up. It's and it's only in the
vinyl version, but it's in the inside. It is a
photo of a woman in plastic shorts and being plastic.
It's when I say plastic, I do mean see through plastic,
so you can see. Yeah, you can see. So we're
not sure it's Lord, but we are assuming it's Lord.
And it's probably not a bad assumption to make, given

(06:34):
that it's not the first time that we've seen Lord's bits.
Because if you cast your mind back Solar Power, the
last album, the cover of it was a shot of
her jumping across over the top of the camera, and
if you, you know, had a closer look, you would
you would actually realize that she had no pants on
when she was doing that. Also, I'm reliably informed that
in one of the videos accompanying the new album there

(06:56):
is no topper at some stage, So I think I think,
I think Lord developing a pattern of wanting to show
her bits off, So it's probably hers anyway. That's so
talk to you if your children have land. If it's
landed with one of your children the vinyl album. You
might want to ask them what's on the inside. Fourteen
past four.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
It's the Heather duper Sea Allen Drive Full Show podcast
on iHeartRadio powered my News Talks.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Be Hey, it's seventeen past four. Jason Pine is of
course doing a weekend sport. He's the host this weekend
piny Hello.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
Hello Heather.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Why is it only a one year deal for SALGP
and Auckland.

Speaker 7 (07:31):
Mysterifying to me.

Speaker 8 (07:32):
I would have imagined that it would have been a
longer deal placed in front of those who make these
decisions in Auckland. I know Russell Coots said to us
during our broadcast last year that they were keen to
examine a multi year deal with Auckland to come back
not just once but three four five years. For whatever reason,
Allkland said no, no, we'll just take the one for now.
I am hearing in the background though hither that it's

(07:55):
actually a deal which will be extended. I just don't
know why they haven't come out with it now. It
seems so odd. It's a great economic benefit for Auckland,
it's a great events. I don't know why you wouldn't
wouldn't bite Russell Cook's handoff for a five year deal?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Is somebody using this for leverage somewhere along the way,
I mean, because it feels like silly buggers are being
played here right.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (08:16):
I don't think there's any leverage that Auckland really have.
I mean, and sale GP's got plenty of leverage. As
Sir Russell said, you know, we've got lots of places
who would like to host. Look, if you're not interested,
we'll find somebody else.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
Look. Whether or not that's absolutely true, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (08:29):
And he's a key we I think he loves coming
back to New Zealand foot with sale GP. So I
don't know who's got leverage over who really, but we
know it's coming back in February. We look forward to
that and hopefully, either before that or after that, we
get it locked in for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Does this mean that christ Church is now it's Gomburger
for christ Church?

Speaker 7 (08:49):
I think you might be bang on the money there, Heather.

Speaker 8 (08:52):
I don't think SALEGP will ever go back to christ Church.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Why is it really just the Dolphins?

Speaker 8 (09:00):
Well, I just think they struck so many problems, not
just the Dolphins. The Dolphins with a I was going
to say the straw that broke the camel's back. It
was quite a big straw. Didn't allow any racing on
that first day a couple of years ago. I just
think they ran into so much red tape down there
and so many issues. That's or us will said, you
know what, I can't be bothered with this. I'll go
somewhere where they want us to be.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yeah, okay, listen, the Warriors tomorrow night playing the Broncos.
I mean with full from the table that seventh on
the table, but we actually have the same number of points,
so it should be a pretty tight game.

Speaker 7 (09:30):
Yeah, should be.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
And what your hope is that the Warriors do what
they've done all season, and that is when they've had
a loss, which they did last week to Penrith, they've
bounced back with a win every time they've lost the season,
and it hasn't been very often they.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Rebounded with a win. Now they've got the Broncos.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
As you say at sun Corpse Stadium, Broncos are a
good team either.

Speaker 7 (09:46):
I think they'll probably favored at the tab. But like
I say, I.

Speaker 8 (09:50):
Backed the Warriors and their ability to bounce back after defeat.
I made the bold prediction, as you've pointed out, about
the Chiefs winning Super Rugby a week ago, so I
wouldn't be asking anybody listening into to take my absolute
Carso no, I didn't guarantee on it.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I didn't say that to you. I said it behind
your back and you found out.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
No.

Speaker 7 (10:09):
I was tuned.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I know, piney I forget, I forget that. You've got
a radio that's right, yeah, now here listen. Can I
make this prediction though, and be happy to be proved
terribly wrong if that's how it goes. But the Warrior
is actually because the loss of Delan Watten is a
lesnie because often you know, I mean, that's obviously something
that would be quite worrying, but these guys often actually
just play outstandingly when they're missing their key players. So

(10:30):
chances are in fact they overperformed.

Speaker 8 (10:32):
Tomorrow yep, next man up mentality absolutely. I remember earlier
in the season they don't never wrote to two bars
of Cheek that James Fisher, Harris, all the hyphen iphonated
names were out.

Speaker 7 (10:41):
But it was next man up and they stood up
and they and they won.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
Looked a big loss Dellan and of course we know
with Mitch Varney it also out for the season. That's
tough too, But they've got a great mentality at the
Warriors that you know, whoever is next up stands up
and look, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they
beat the Broncos tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, well let's see how it goes. Piney, thank you
very much. As usual, Jason Pine Weekend Sport host mid
day to three o'clock. Hey have you hurt tomorrow? By
the way, have you heard of Nathan Garrow? So, Nathan
Garrow is a key where who's become slightly famous and
particularly in South America because he is the Auckland City
goalkeeper who has now been inundated with new social media
followers basically after Auckland City managed to eliminate Boca Juniors

(11:20):
from the FIFA Club World Cup. Because what you don't
realize if you didn't watch the game, is that I mean,
obviously you know it was it was a low It
was a pretty stock standard football game. One one was
what it had ended up being. But the reason it
stayed one to one was because of course these guys
were firing all the shots at goal, and Nathan was
saving them. He faced forty shots, he produced six saves.

(11:43):
He sprinted off his line and out of the penalty
area to make a crucial intervention to stop one of
their attacks. Later on, the Brazilians love them, especially because
they don't love the Argentinians and he spoiled the Argentinians fun.
So they're pretty excited about that. Nathan world famous. Nathan
is twenty years old and actually study civil engineering at
the University of Auckland and he's not even Auckland City's

(12:04):
first choice goalkeeper. Well deserved four twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Two Getting the facts, discarding the fluff. It's Heather duplicy
Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
That'd be Heather. So it was a very famous game, Maria.
They did it again. It wasn't going to mention it.
But the caption in that article that I was in
the article about how awesome the goalkeeper was, there was
a photograph and it was the first photograph and it
said Auckland City celebrate famous draw against Boker Juniors And
I was like, okay, so either the people it's stuff.

(12:38):
I don't believe the people at Stuff don't listen to
the show, So the people at Stuff know that I'm
upset about it, and they're continuing to do it because
they either don't care, which is a fair enough position
to take. I mean, why should you listen to me?
Or they're deliberately trolling me, and I prefer that story.
This makes me feel more special in my own head.
So that's what I'm going to go with, like they
actually care for twenty five. Okay, Trevan Mallard, let's talk

(12:59):
about this. So Treva Mallard is being sued for turning
the sprinklers on the anti mandate protesters at that protest
outside Parliament in twenty twenty two. Now, I do not
hold much hope that this case is going to go anywhere,
mainly because it's being taken by, as I said, that
eleven year old girl now obviously probably about fourteen, I
would imagine, and her claims are a little bit kind.

(13:19):
I mean, her claims are outlandish, right, that he caused
her mental anguish, humiliation, degradation, and dehumanization by turning on
the sprinklers and playing baby Shark at high volume. I mean,
I think that would be most of us would be
would flip a lid. If somebody did that to us
would be pretty upset, but I don't know that we'd

(13:39):
have mental anguish anyway. Good luck to her whatever. The
thing I'm most interested in about is what the lawyer
has managed to discover in trying to put this case together.
He got some documents under the Official Information Act that
show that senior police actually told Treuva Mallard not to
do this. They warned him that if he turned those
sprinklers on, the protesters would get angry and that they
might damage the sprinkler system. And Trevor said he was

(14:01):
not concerned about that at all. So he turned the
sprinklers on, and guess what, the cops were right. The
people did damage to the sprinkler system. It cost us
two nine hundred dollars to fix that, and then it
cost us one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to fix
the lawn, which, of course, when I say cost us,
not Trevor, us the taxpayer. So thanks a lot for that, Trevor.
As per usual, just you know, and I don't say

(14:23):
this lightly being a dick, the lawyer is going to
be with us after five. We'll have a chat to
him about where he thinks this case is going to go. Now,
if you remember when lud said she was putting out
this album and she was going to put out a
gazillion different versions of it and special editions and stuff
like that, Sam the producer had announced that this is
not hosking Sam, this is our Sam, different Sam's, but

(14:44):
we've all got Sam somewhere. Sam the producer announced that
he was going to buy the special edition from overseas
somewhere that was going to cost ninety dollars and when
you put it on the turntable, it was go. There
was a picture that would form as a result of it,
and was it autographed as well? It was autographed as well.
Like it was everything you could possibly want in a
Lord album, her nudity, her autograph, and a picture that's

(15:06):
spun on. Guess what didn't arrive? What a surprise. It
didn't arrive today, And as I predicted, Sam went out
and spent more money buying a second vinyl. So because
the special edition one didn't arrive on the day that
he was absolutely panting for it to arrive, he walked
down to Jbhi Fi and brought another one. Do we
know how much he paid for that one sixty dollars,

(15:28):
so he has now sunk one hundred and fifty dollars
into two Lord vinyls. How many Lord Vinyls have you got?
That's right? Zero? Wait for the mental anguish. Here you go.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Let's go.

Speaker 9 (15:45):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Pulling the challenging questions to the people at the heart
of the story, it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Let's get connected news talks that'd be.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
It's been pointed out to me that's nothing knew what
Lord has done being done by Madonna before. Blah blah blah.
It's a fair point. When Madonna did it was truly shocking, right,
So I suppose everything's been done before.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
News out of politics today is that there's been a
surprising and unexpected quitting of parliament by New Zealand First
List MP Tanya Kovic. She's only been there. I mean
she came in for the first time in the twenty
twenty three elections, so she hasn't seen out even two years.
She reckons. Her reason for quitting is that she thinks
she can do much more good for the country and

(16:44):
her private work, which is through coaching and consultancy and
stuff like that. Obviously, I mean it doesn't you know,
you don't have to be a rocket scientist to read
between the lines here that she has gone in and
found it to be a deeply disappointing experience in parliament
and obviously not at all what she expected. Thomas Coglan
will give us are the lowdown on actually what has
gone on here when he is with us in ten
minutes time. Right now, it's twenty three away from five.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's the world wires on news talks every drive.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Donald Trump says he's got some massive trade deals in
the pipeline.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
As you remember a few months ago, the press was saying,
do you really have anybody of any injured as well?
We just signed with China yesterday, right, But we're having
some great deals. We have one coming up maybe with India,
very big one.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Well, we're going to open up India.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Oh, according to the White House. By the way, the officials,
the China deal will allow the trade in rare earth
minerals to resume, and China cut that trade back heavily
because of the tariffs. Now over to the US again,
US senators have had a classified briefing on the effectiveness
of the strikes on Iran. Here's what Republican Senator Lindsey
Graham said after the briefing.

Speaker 11 (17:44):
Obliterated is a good word for me to use.

Speaker 12 (17:48):
I can deal people in South Carolina.

Speaker 13 (17:50):
Nobody is going to work in these three sites anytime
soon now.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
The Democrat Chris M. Murphy was at the same briefing,
but that's not what he heard.

Speaker 14 (17:58):
The President was deliberately misleading the public when he said
the program was obliterated. It is certain that there is
still significant capability and significant equipment.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
And finally, a terist in Japan has had a very
lucky escape. The woman picked up a pretty shell on
a beach in Okinawa, not realizing it was a poisonous
cone snail. Now, a cone snail is quite poisonous. The
poison can kill a human in five minutes. But thankfully
this one didn't sting her. The woman says she panicked
a bit when she learned what a cone snail was.

(18:32):
A few days.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Later, International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Incidentally also called a cigarette snail because once it stings,
you've got five minutes and that's enough time to smoke
a cigarette before you die. Twenty two away from five
kirk KLi at US Correspondence with us.

Speaker 12 (18:50):
Hey, kirk Hey, it's great to beat with you, Heather,
And you have kind of alluded to it with these
differences of opinions from the US senators. There's an all
scene in Journalist. If your mom says she loves you,
get a second source. And the Trump administration is certainly
not too happy when reporters try to get a second
source and push back on the official line that the

(19:12):
administration is still sticking with. With American B two bombers
obliterated Arand's nuclear facilities, there was just a wild press
briefing at the Pentagon this morning. Now, this is Jennifer Griffin.
She is the Pentagon correspondent for Fox News, a former
colleague of Secretary of Defense Pete Hetchis when he was,

(19:33):
of course at Fox News, he was the weekend morning
show host before becoming Secretary of Defense. And she was
asking hess a question about what is going on as
far as the ability of NURAN to regenerate their nuclear program.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
Do you have certainty that all the highly enrich uranium
was inside the four Dau Mountain or some of it,
because there were satellite photos that showed more than a
dozen trucks there to day in advanced Are you certain
none of that highly enriched uranium was moved?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Of course, we're.

Speaker 12 (20:04):
Watching every single aspect, But Jennifer, you've been about the worst,
the one who misrepresents the most intentionally.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
I know what the President.

Speaker 12 (20:14):
Says, and of course Haig says at the NATO summit
just recently concluded at the Hague and the Netherlands said
so if you want to make an assessment of what happened,
you better get a big shovel and go really deep,
because Iran's nuclear program is here again their favorite word, obliterated.
The President is not at all happy with some of

(20:34):
these leaks that have now been confirmed to come out
in all capital letters. This morning, he posted on social
media fake news reporters from CNN and The New York
Times should be fired immediately three exclamation points, bad people
with evil intentions. And the administration today, including the Press Secretary,
has called out Natasha Bertrand from CNN with the president.

(20:56):
How is it to have the President of the United
States call for you to be fired? From CNN. He
goes on and on the President Trump says she should
be fired immediately and thrown out like a dog. Just
amazing commentary that we have continue on a daily basis
from the White House.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, just another day with Donald Trump and charge. Listen,
if you've got senators going into the same briefing and
you've got the Republicans coming out and saying it was abliteration,
and you've got the Democrats coming out and saying it
was not obliteration at all, then I think the fair
assumption is that it's somewhere in the middle right, that
there was significant damage downe but we don't know how much.

Speaker 12 (21:33):
That is pretty much the case.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
You know, it's always the story.

Speaker 12 (21:36):
If you're in a courtroom and you have eyewitness testimony,
always take that with a grain of the grain of sand,
because it could go really either way. And we have
amazing stories coming from the Department of Homeland Security. They're
now pushing back, Heather. You may have heard about this
earlier this month. A young Norwegian tourist named Madz Milkinson
says that he had been denied entry to the country

(21:59):
simply because he had a mem of a fat and
bald Vice President jd Vance on his phone. DHS says
he was not let in now because he admitted marijuana
use and had a picture of a wooden pipe on
his phone. But wait, how can you be deported for
doing something that is legal for recreational use, including in
New Jersey where he came into the US at Newark Airport,

(22:21):
in almost half the states. Well, the states say it's
okay to use marijuana, but it's still a federal crime,
so you still can technically be deported. Same thing happened
to Australian journalist Alistair Kitchen when he tried to come
back into the US earlier this month. The real reason,
and it was even alluded to him by, according to him,
by some of the Customs and Border Patrol agents, was

(22:43):
because of his reporting about pro Palestinian demonstrations at Columbia
University in New York. Speaking from Melbourne after flying to
Los Angeles and then right back to Australia, he had
this advice for anyone thinking of a visit to the US.

Speaker 15 (22:58):
If you don't have a great reason to go to
the United States and you're a tourist, this might not
be the time. The second is that if you have
anything sensitive on your phone, do not take that phone.
Take a burn a phone, populate it with some content
so that it doesn't look suspicious.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
And the third thing is.

Speaker 15 (23:14):
If all that fails and you end up in the
position that I was in, and you were offered after
getting off a fifteen hour flight, a choice between depotation
and having your phone searched and downloaded. My view is
accept immediate devotation.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Now have there.

Speaker 12 (23:31):
I don't go quite that extreme. I was just in
Mexico last week and last month. But what I even
do is I turn off face ID because in our
interesting lives, I don't think our founding fathers had any
idea of biometric identification. They can just hold the phone
up to you and unlock your phone if you have
face ID, but if you turn that off, they are

(23:53):
not allowed because of Fourth Amendment and unreasonable search and
seizure to get into your phone. They're not able to
tell you to give them the pass code if you're
an American, but they can still take your phone.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Now, Kirk, that is very very good advice to anyone
traveling with dodgy stuff on their phone. Thank you appreciate it, Kirk,
Client US correspondents, Hey, Super. Gosh, this thing just keeps
coming up, doesn't it. Okay, super annuation. You know it's
going to be so expensive, blah blah blah. IRD has
got itself involved in this.

Speaker 16 (24:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
IRD says, we've got to do something about the cost
of SUPER. So it's put out a draft long Term
Insights briefing, they call it. It's the draft one out
for consultation. They said, the bunch of ways we can
deal with this, right, we can number one, you know,
cut spending here and there to save a few dollars.
Or we could lift tax. And it'll be no surprise

(24:46):
whatsoever that the taxman decided that the best thing to
do would be to lift tax. And their preference for
how to lift tax in order to basically pay for
Super into the future is to lift GST. Currently gess,
I mean GST recently in the last what fifteen or
so years went from ten from twelve and a half
percent to fifteen percent. They haven't said where they would
raise to it, not that I can see. We will

(25:07):
have a chat to Jeff Nightingale about this. He's of
course a tax sex, but he'll be with us after
five o'clock. If us had taken where it would go
to if iad got its wish.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's quarter two politics with centrics credit, check your customers
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Speaker 3 (25:20):
Thomas Coglan, New Zealand Herald Political Letters with us A Thomas.

Speaker 17 (25:24):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
So why is Tanya really leaving?

Speaker 17 (25:28):
I'm stumped? If you know this is that I am.
I'm as stumped as everyone else. I did hear a
bit of a whisper that this might be happening today. Tanyankovich,
obviously New Zealand first MP first term, just announced out
of the blue that she was going to be leaving
parliament this week. Today the parties posted a nice picture
of a farewell on on Twitter. Unfortunately for Tania, they

(25:53):
chose the picture where she has her eyes closed, so
they did her a weave bit dirty there. I know.
Do you want to did the the beehive criminologist might
want to read into that what they will.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
The photo guy had one job.

Speaker 17 (26:06):
Exactly, but but look it doesn't. It doesn't look like
there's anything anything to this yet. She's seems to have
gotten a better offer doing a bit of motivational speaking,
making more money in the private sector.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
It seems.

Speaker 17 (26:19):
And it also would appear that she doesn't really like
parliament that much. If I know, you might be able
to read into this decision that conclusion as well. But
that doesn't look like there's anything anything else to this
than than just an MP deciding they don't want the
gig anymore. But weird though to leave.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Midterm, Yeah, it is. It is weird. But even that
in and of itself is interesting, don't you think, Thomas,
Because this is Tanya is not a backbencher in the opposition,
which truly would be a sucky job. She is a
backbencher in a coalition government, right, So surely that that
you have some sense of being at least close to
the nexus of power or able to do something. The

(26:58):
fact that somebody is in one of the governing parties
and is like this really sucks. I think says a
lot about the way that parliament works, doesn't.

Speaker 17 (27:05):
It, Which is a lot about the way that an
MMP parliament works, which is that if you are a
backbencher in the government, you're really doing the sort of clapping, seal, smiling,
smile and wave routine. Yeah, you sit on the back,
clapp your hands really loud, ask stupid Patsy questions and
talk about how great your government is. You don't really
have much power at all. If a constituent wants something done,

(27:25):
you can try and knock on the minister's door, but
you're only slightly more likely to get welcomed in than
you are if you are a member of the opposition,
And in fact, opposition MPs and the backbench MP's might
have more fun because they have more freedom to speak.
You know, if Tan your Unclevitch didn't like, you know,
hypothetically didn't like what the government was doing, she suddenly
wouldn't be allowed to say so. So I think it

(27:46):
says a lot about EMP parliaments that perhaps backbench career
isn't that appealing.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
And I suppose the fact that she's sitting next to it,
I've dug up the photo Jesus is really honestly as
bad as it's not even like it's not even like
she's in the back row and you don't notice her
eyes is closed. She is front and center with her
eyes full of No they did, but I suppose it's
it's I mean, everybody's there looking like a happy family.
So there's probably nothing nothing sort of like there's no intraparty.

Speaker 17 (28:14):
You wouldn't post a heavy photo like that if this
was a you know, the precursor to a scandal.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
No true, Hey, listen, the chances of the s eleven
year old's case against Triva Mallard succeeding on a scale
of one to ten.

Speaker 17 (28:25):
Well, look as Whins and Peters might say, I am
no Philadelphia lawyer. But but I would say, on the
face of it, low.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I don't blow question mark zero one two.

Speaker 17 (28:40):
Yeah, just look that the child claims that Triuva Maillard
is speaker breached their rights during the parliamentary protest. They
have they have taken a legal election against Tuvia Maillard.
But it looks yeah, it doesn't look like the kind
of case that would go far. But like I say,
no Philadelphia lawyer or no lawyer of any kind.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
No, okay, thank you very much, Thomas. We'll wrap the
political week with you later on quarter passix or thereabouts.
It's nine away from five. That was Thomas Coglan, the
Herald's political editor.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 13 (29:14):
The interweber's awash currently telling me Erica Stamford is the
Wocist minister in the government and under the cover of
Dartin she is snuck into legislation commitment to the treaty
that entrenches it in a way we should all be
alarmed about. And Erica Stamford is, of course the Minister
of Education.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
You say what I mean, This is what happens when
you get a bunch of people who get all whipped
up with hatred and spout and complete and uttered lies.

Speaker 13 (29:35):
It is correct to say it is in there, and
therefore some of the stuff that they're talking about can happen.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Therefore they are correct.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
Well, hold on a minute, Yes it's there. I didn't
put it there like that, claiming it's been there for
a very long time.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Are there legitimate questions? Yes?

Speaker 13 (29:49):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
a Vida News Talk z B Hire are.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Other words, these guys are completely wasting the time of
the court to say nothing of the cost. One would
hope if said child loses the court orders them to
pay the costs of it all. Five Away from five
press release Hot Off the Old Printer from Tipuney Corky
TPK is ordering a review into what they say is
the quote alleged inappropriate use of Fano order funds, which

(30:16):
is basically what we were talking about at the very
start of this program, which is the money that was
you know, that you and I would think was going
into Keddy's jabs and health and education and so on,
being used to fund more Onana Pacific, a rugby team.
The review will focus on whether the commissioning agencies have
met their contractual obligations for the use of the public funds.
The terms of reference for the review and the reviewer

(30:39):
will be announced next week, so stand by for that.
Looks like the Minister's managed to get get a bit
of movement going there. Can I ask you a question?
Do you think this is too long to have somebody
else's package sitting on my front doorstep?

Speaker 16 (30:53):
Wait for this?

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Okay, so Monday, I look, I didn't even hear the courier.
I just looked out the front door. Oh there we go.
Oh there's a box, I thought, yay, who doesn't like
seeing a box? Much to my disappointment, not not addressed
to Heather, in fact addressed to Elena, and I thought, whoops,
there's a problem. What's the address? Oh, that's right. So

(31:14):
the only thing that Elena and I have in common
is the number of house that we live at. It's
the same number, completely different road. Elena lives at Fisher
Point Drive in the CBD. So if you know Elena
who lives at Fisher Point Drive in the CBD, can
you please tell her that her Mocker packages are sitting
on my doorstep. They arrived on Monday, and so I

(31:36):
called the courier company. Because I'm a good citizen, so
I called the courier companies like, hello, you've dropped it
off to Heather. You meant to Lena out. She's like, oh,
thanks for letting us know Tuesday Wednesday. I thought, no,
something's gone right. I told them again. She's like, oh,
I talked to you before. I was like, yes, I remember,
and she said she said, oh, the courier driver lied
to me. So he told her in dispatch that he'd

(31:56):
come back and picked it up, and he had. That's
why are you winning them? I'm not finished with my story.
So he told her he picked it up and he hadn't. Anyway.
I said to her, no, can you can you get
him to come around? Yeah, I'll get him in the air.
It's Friday, it's still there. We've just had a rainstorm.
Now Elena's furniture flat pack furniture is wet, isn't it.
So I've called Mocha and I've told Mocha because I

(32:19):
figured maybe Mocha can tell the This is naughty, though,
isn't it. This is naughty because I feel like what
they're They're expecting me to go and take the package rump.
It's too heavy. Otherwise I would and I'm so lazy today,
so I'm not going to. But that's naughty, isn't it.
You can tell me, you can. I mean, I feel
like the whole pole is just going to be Yes,
that's naughty, isn't it. What's the point in getting a
poll done on it? Anyway? There you go, talk to
the lawyer. Next News Talks at.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Be digging through the spin fence to find the real story.
Oring It's Heather Dupsy on drive with One New Zealand.
Let's get connected.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
News Talks that be.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Afternoon. Trevor Mallard is being sued by a teenage You're
for turning the sprinklers on the protest is at Parliament
in twenty twenty two. The girl was eleven at the time.
She's accusing him of causing mental anguish, humiliation, and dehumanization
by weaponizing Baby Shark, and she's seeking forty thousand dollars
in damages. Tudor Clee is the lawyer taking the case
and with us. Now, Hey, Tudor, good afternoon, Tudor. While

(33:20):
I love that you're suing him, and he absolutely does
deserve this, this is not going to succeed, is it.

Speaker 18 (33:27):
Well, I think it is, and that's why we're taking
the case. I mean, ultimately, it's a case about whether
or not this child was degraded and having extrement flooded
into her and being blasted with music is, on the
face of it, my view, degrading. And if it isn't,
then what is it?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Are you doing this pro bono?

Speaker 18 (33:48):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I am Why.

Speaker 18 (33:52):
Well, I think that we've got to a point where
we can even have a consensus about whether or not
it's wrong to flood excrem into children order to blastem
with music, and I think that something has to be
done about.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Just because you said it twice, what do you mean
by flood excrement into children?

Speaker 18 (34:09):
Well, so, there doesn't seem to be any dispute that
Trevor Mallard flooded the Parliament grounds, like he told police
that he was going to do it, he did it.
The next day, he went at the News and said
he did it. A week after he told Audrey Young
at the Herald that he was aware that there was
excrement in the grounds and that's what he was flooding
the water through it. So the police described it as

(34:33):
a quagmire of quagmire of human feces and mud by
the next day. So again this doesn't seem to be
any dispute about the sanitation issues that were there. And
so the question is that is this how we treat
them for the New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I love that he's getting his come up, and but
this is exactly the kind of long bow that's being
drawn in this case. It would appear that makes it
really unlike it's going to succeed.

Speaker 18 (35:03):
Well, if it doesn't succeed other then at least we
know moving forward that if you have a protest of
Parliament and you disagree with the people, then you open
the sewage and you flood them out. And if that's
how if that's what the case is, then I think
that everyone.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Look, I'm not a fan of Truva Mallied but I
feel like you are exaggerating what's happened here. He didn't
open the sewage, did he? I mean he played the
macarena at people like a child and then turned on
the sprinklers, knowing full well that they would likely to
be damaged. I mean, if we stick to the facts,
what he did was was he bad? Like a dickhead?

Speaker 6 (35:34):
Right?

Speaker 18 (35:36):
I mean I get yeah, I'm not going to argue
with that.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Sure, Okay, have you heard from him?

Speaker 9 (35:43):
No?

Speaker 18 (35:43):
I haven't. I mean, it's it's obviously in a court process.
But yes, so they says that it's just progressing.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Okay, And when is this likely to actually go to court?

Speaker 18 (35:54):
I would say probably about a year to get a
trial there realistically. Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Are you worried at all about wasting court time here?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 18 (36:03):
And I think these sollegitimate questions that need to be answered.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Okay, sheet a best of like, I really appreciate your time.
We'll keep an eye on it. That's due to Clee,
a lawyer taking the case.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Ever do for see Ellen.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Inland Revenue has recommended lifting GST higher in order to
pay for superannuation. It's released a report, it's a draft
report looking at the expected cost of supern It says
we can either we could do one or two things.
We can either cut government spending or we can and
this is the tax man's preverred option, raise more tax
Jeffna Nightingale is an independent tax expert in with us.

Speaker 16 (36:32):
Now, Hey, Jeff, Good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Now, they haven't said what they would prefer to lift
the GST to. But if you take a punt at it,
where do you think it would go?

Speaker 16 (36:41):
Well, it depends. The lifting GST is a very fast
and efficient way to raise revenue. Gsts about quarter of
our quarter to a third of all of our tax
so it's a very quick way, but it's got a
whole of problems that it's very regressive, it impacts much more,
much harder on lower income people, and you know, it's

(37:06):
a politically difficult.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Thing to do.

Speaker 16 (37:08):
So all we're doing really is trying to explore if
we can't halt the track of increasing expenditure mainly driven
by age, we will need to raise more taxes or
cut that expenditure. But if we can't cut that expenditure
politically too difficult, we need to raise new taxes. So
they're exploring what the best mix of new taxes might
be in a sort of a prink piece.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
As you say, it is regressive, right, But what they
say is, rather than cutting the GST of groceries, which
is obviously the one everybody goes to, what could be
used instead as tax credits? Would you prefer that?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (37:40):
The problem? The problem with taking GST off food or
good things, if you like health care or education, is
that you're not always sure that those savings are going
to be passed on to consumers. Some of them might
get captured by the suppliers, and so it's a bit
slippery where the savings go. And the second thing is
that it causes real compliance difficulties. What's fresh food, what's

(38:03):
not fresh food? And there's some hilarious examples off sure.
So the other option they've suggested is that we raise
the GEST, keep it really broad, no exemptions, but we
rebate back a certain amount of the extra tax revenue
are extra GST revenue, We rebate it back to lower
to higher income support at the lower end in order
to offset the aggressiveness. That's the system that I would

(38:26):
prefer if we have to go down that track.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, Now, very quickly, do you think this is the
case of a government department telling a government what it
wants to hear.

Speaker 16 (38:35):
No, No, I think this is the case. Under the
Public Finance Act, they have to do this every three years.
They have to think out loud about the future, and
that's what they're doing. They've been very careful not to
make any recommendations and they absolutely say it's the parliament.
It's the government's job to make the decisions. They are
just setting out the various options.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Okay, good stuff, Jeff, good to talk to you as always,
Jeff Nightingale, independent tax expert Heather do for clos but
use obviously the sale GP confirmed for a year and
proper thereafter. We're going to talk to Auckland Unlimited about it. Shortly,
quick update for you on the wedding of the year,
Jeff Bezos's wedding, because as you know, it's obviously very
very very early morning in Venice, and so they are

(39:12):
just that we're now into wedding day. We are now
officially into wedding day, but of course they've just finished overnight,
which is when the pre party was happening.

Speaker 19 (39:19):
You know, you saw it.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
Oprah arrived and Gale arrived and Orlando arrived and Katie
wasn't there, which started us asking, well, what's got why
it's Katie. Oh, they've separated, So that's a side story.
And you've got all the Kardashians there, you've got the
Jenna there, and you've got just absolutely Trump said no,
but the in laws went and blah blah blah. Anyway,
it's been rained out. Unfortunately, the thing came to a

(39:41):
grinding holt, huge freak thunderstorm, Lightning bolts across the sky
and thunder you know, and like torrential downpours, and they
had strong wind and was whipping the tablecloths and everybody
was getting completely soaked. So they ran them all had
a little gold outfits on. The officials were working there,
and they ran them all out with their little gigantic
umbrellas and try to keep them dry and got them

(40:03):
into the water taxes. Everybody are completely soaked, and so
unless they wrap that, if they go straight into the
air con in the hotel, you know they're going to
get a cold and then today is going to be ruined.
So that they're going to have to manage the next
few minutes very careful.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Left.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
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past five now very very good news if you love
seeing things work properly and also love sale GP It's
coming back to Auckland next year, slightly later in the
year though it's going to be in February. Michelle Hooper

(41:22):
is the head of Major Events at Tartuki and Auckland
Unlimited and is with us now. Michelle.

Speaker 16 (41:26):
Hello, good to.

Speaker 20 (41:27):
Evening, Heather, to bring you some great stunny news on
a dreary old winter's day.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Tell you what it's good in the middle of winter
to be thinking about sitting outside watching sailing in the summer.
Explain something to because I'm a little bit confused. Is
this is this a new deal or is this just
part of the original four year deal and this is
the last year of it?

Speaker 20 (41:45):
What the latter has creped starts the end of a
four year deal, So you don't we delighted to have
secured it for twenty twenty six for Auckland obviously the
mbhead of kind of overriding agreement with sales up and
then we lockdown the details between ourselves and christ Yurts
at different times that this is the final kind of
piece of puzzle.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
So the delighted to have secured the new but here
is that it's not christ Church, it's us in Auckland.

Speaker 20 (42:08):
Yes, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, correct, Yeah, and that it's yes,
it's well great that it's coming back.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Do you think that we're going to get it in
twenty seven as well?

Speaker 21 (42:17):
Oh, we hope to.

Speaker 20 (42:18):
Yep, we've just got to get through the obviously have
another great year next year and it'll go from strength
to strength. The you know, intention by all parties is
that we do we just have to sort the long
term funding solution out for major events that the intention
is that we'll get there with them and you know,
for an event like cel GP and how it really
takes all of our boxes in terms of it.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
You know what New.

Speaker 20 (42:39):
Zealanders love, what Autan does love. You know, it's a
really it's a great it's a great product.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Okay, So it comes down to money before we know
about twenty seven, what's the problem there?

Speaker 20 (42:49):
Well, I mean it's very public in terms of the
going back and forward about the bed Livy and how
we'd like to secure that nationally, and there's been very
vocal about wanting to secure that and really we need
to unlock our ability to deliver a major event on
a much border scale across the country. You know the
fact that we weren't able to government wouldn't contribute to
supporting the America's Cup. You know, we kind of get

(43:10):
into the perpetual cycle of not being able to get
the things we need. But however, we're very fortunate to
have the likes of sale GP, which is an amazing product,
and you know, we're really lucky with that we can
utilize all of the incredible infrastructure that's been invested over
previous major event hosting for international sailing here in Auckland,
good Seah, and you know, we're really delivering an event

(43:32):
which we have an incredibly educated sailing audience in New
Zealand thanks to the legacy of America's Cups. And it's
great that we can just you know, get an event
like sale GP, stand it up incredibly quickly and deliver
an incredibly professional event in the best way possible.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Michelle, thank you very much. Best of luck with that.
That's Michelle Hooper, head of Major Events at Auckland Unlimited. Heather,
you don't get the flu when you get wet from
the rain.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
Hang.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I never said you get the flu. I said you
get a chill. And if you're going to debate with
me with you get sick from a chill or not
well I'm just going to refer you to the old
old ladies. That's what the old lady said. They said,
don't go get yourself wet and then get cold, because
then you're gonna get a chill and then you're gonna
get a snotty nose. And are you disputing that with me, Adam,
because if you are, I want to know what your

(44:17):
science is, because my science as old ladies five twenty one.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Checking the point of the story.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
And youth dog sa'd be.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
You are absolutely correct, Heather. The new science agrees with
the old ladies that cold makes your your system more
vulnerable to viruses. Bob, thank you. So it's Bob and
the old ladies and me against I think with Adam
before than a five twenty four. Listen, there is a
conference on in Singapore right now where they've discussed the
importance of knowing your neighbors. Now, we obviously know you
need to know your neighbors for the obvious stuff like

(44:51):
watching out for each other's houses when one of you
is on holiday, having an extra set of eyes on
the kids in the neighborhood someone to borrow your sugar off,
that kind of thing. But apparently, according to the people
who are at this conference, and it's a significant conference,
apparently it is also one of the best ways to
overcome the increasing polarization in the world right now, to
know your neighbor, presumably, because you can't choose your neighbors,

(45:13):
so you cannot choose whether your neighbors think like you,
or vote like you, or live like you. So if
you get to know them, you may in fact learn
that people with different politics or different views or different
lives are actually okay, and you have empathy for them
and therefore empathy perhaps for other people like them, thereby
reducing polarization. Now I love this. I mean, I'm baffled
how many people don't know their neighbors, and worse, I'm

(45:35):
baffled at how many people don't want to know their neighbors.
When we were getting some work done at the house,
for a minute, it looked like we were going to
need resource consent. If you know how resource consent works,
you basically need to get your neighbors consent in order
to do the work right. The company that we were
using said, why don't you get this resource consent consultant
to come and help you out. I didn't want to
have to spend on a resource consent consultant. I called

(45:55):
them up and said, how much do you charge so
our five to ten thousand for this? I said, for what,
five to ten thousand dollars for basically asking my neighbors
to sign off on something? They said, yeah, but some
people don't like talking to their neighbors. Isn't that mental
that people would pay five to ten thousand dollars so
that they can avoid having to talk to their neighbors.
Turns out, not only can you save money by talking

(46:17):
to your neighbors, but you can also save the world
from increasing polarization. So get to it.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Heather duplusy Ellen, I have got a.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
New theory on why the mushroom Chef judge in Australia
is still summing up for the seven hundred and five
fifth day in a row. That yes, the judge is
still summing up. They said that they would be summing up.
He said he would be summing up until Monday. This
is my theory is that he's doing it basically to
get us across the weekend, so he is he's just

(46:46):
he's just flat. It's just flannel. At the minute, he's
just saying, everything's just he's done a chat GPT search. Yeah,
filibustering heart out. He's like that guy who's stood there
for twenty five hours without doing a wi wi and
just talked. And it was at Congress anyway. I think
what he's done is a chat GPT search and he
said to chat GPT, tell me everything you know about

(47:06):
Aaron Patterson. Just printed everything out and he's just reading
it to them. And why he's doing this, this is
my theory. Why he's doing this is because he needs
to get the jury across the weekend, right, because if
he sent them out tomorrow all today, you'd go, okay, out,
you go come back with a verdict, and they'd be like,
stuff this, we've been here for eight days. Everybody, she's guilty, right,
and we're out, And so they would be incentivized to

(47:27):
reach a decision really quickly so they can get on
with their lives. So what he's doing is he's sucking
up their time, right, because what it means is we've
got about four and a half clear days to the
next weekend, so we could at least get four and
a half clear days of deliberation before they, you know,
force each other to say that she's guilty. That that
is the only explanation for why this man is still

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talking headlines. Next, and let's go to the sports huddle.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Heather first.
It's Heather duplessy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
They'd be.

Speaker 9 (48:20):
Heather.

Speaker 16 (48:21):
Adam's right.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
A cold and flu are viruses, and you don't get
them just by getting wet and cold. Steve, Steve wrong. Wrong,
flu is a virus, cold as bacteria. Actually, you're welcome.
Trust the old ladies, mate, trust the old ladies. Now
after six o'clock, Murray Crane is going to be with this.
Murray Crane is the man who Taylor's Fine men's suits,
and he has long been a proponent, a big endorser

(48:44):
of Auckland Central. He thinks that we're way off if
we think that Auckland Central hasn't got life and it
yet he's actually been there twenty six years. I think
it is in High Street in Auckland Central. To just
signed at least for another twenty five he's going to
be with us and explain it to us after six
o'clock quickly, how good? What is the news that Paul
Henry is back at TV and Z not on the well,
he is on the screen obviously for the traitors, but

(49:05):
he's back on the board, so he's going to be
calling the shots. Just being appointed by Minister Paul Goldsmith.
Now I realize that just because you're good at one
thing doesn't mean you're going to be good at another thing. Right,
So just because you're a great broadcast it doesn't mean
you're going to be a great board member. But I
reckon there's a greater than average chance that he's going
to be fantastic because I like the way he thinks.

(49:26):
He's no nonsense, he's not sentimental. He's not going to
stick stuff on TV and keep on funding it if
it's not paying its way just because he's sentimental about it. Right.
I like how he thinks. I like that he's prepared
to try new things. So let's see you could do worse.
Let's see how it goes. Twenty three away from.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Six Friday Sports of LOLd with New Zealand Southurby's International
Realty find You're one.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Of a kind.

Speaker 22 (49:53):
What a game, what a pacifica speak the blows for
the third time in their history.

Speaker 23 (50:01):
There as a result of this deplorable behavior, there will
be no Rugby this coming weekend.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Get twenty eighth We then Hottest Renol Carpeting.

Speaker 7 (50:11):
I would talk it to you this way.

Speaker 16 (50:12):
If you got into the ring with Muhammad Ali and
you came out of it and you didn't lose, and
you didn't when you'd still be pretty happy on the sportshuttle.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Of me this evening got Darcy water Grave, sports talk
host and Nathan Lim news talks. He'd be sports reporter.

Speaker 23 (50:23):
High lads, Good o'heather, Hi there, Mary Crane made my
seat I got married in all those years ago that incidentally,
I still fit only bespoke seat I've ever purchased in
my life acrost, an arm and a league. But I've
still got it and it is amazing.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
And what you just did is humble brag about the
fact that you've still got your eighteen year old body.

Speaker 23 (50:41):
I've got a pair of trousers I bought when I
was eighteen and I still wear.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
He talks about the suit all the time.

Speaker 23 (50:49):
It's a beautiful seat though, wasn't it?

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Oh yeah, sure, what do you think about this?

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Okay, So a lot of people don't realize that Darcy
on a Friday, only in winter, only in winter, has
formal So the rest of the time you turn up
in all kinds of weird outfits and then on a
Friday in a suit. What's up with the sky?

Speaker 1 (51:05):
No?

Speaker 20 (51:06):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Look.

Speaker 19 (51:07):
Winter is drab, and it is wet, and it is dark.
And what Darcy does provides a bit of spark in
the news and you can tell he's walking in and
he knows he looks good and and he's feeling himself
a week but and it just provides a little spark
in the newsroom.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
And I don't mind it. I don't commit to it,
but I just turned.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
But this level of enthusiasm from Nathan for you.

Speaker 23 (51:29):
He's an enthusiastic human being. I do believe he's coming
to get my job.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
He's that good. So he's got to be nice to me.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Let's give it a home. Then, dars is more on
a pacifica dead.

Speaker 23 (51:39):
It doesn't look good unless someone comes in from the
outside and signs a big check, or unless World Rugby
finally realize that it's not up to wins Are to
look after South Pacific rugby. It's actually up to World Rugby.
When you consider all of those PACIFICA players that are
playing over in England and Wales and has Gone and
everybody else, Like Stopper, they play the best brand of rugby.

(52:03):
It's big, strong, fast.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
We need to say it's not a New Zealand rugby
problem because New Zealand Rugby and Rugby Australia owned the
Super Rugby competition that makes the broadcast money. So isn't
it on them actually to disupport one of the best
stories in this competition only.

Speaker 23 (52:15):
To a degree because it's about using that power to
help with the someone and the tongue and rugby. So
they can't take everything onboard. They've got no money anyway,
have they. So yeah, they need to be engaged and
involved in this and they're doing what they're doing, but
I think World Rugby needs to look deeply at what
they're doing for the lesser nations.

Speaker 19 (52:37):
It definitely World Rugby needs to come in and help.
But we have to be clear about the fact that
if Moana Pacifica were to fall over, it would be
an unmitigated pr disaster because the rebels fell over last year.
We can't have two franchises go down in two years.
And what was the story of Super Rugby this year.
It wasn't the Crusaders winning another title. It was Ardie
Savia and it was Mona Pacifica having their best pace. Well, see,

(53:01):
it's going to be a combination right into it. And
ra have a revenue sharing agreement and Super Rugby does
fall on them. There is an independent judicial that sort
of overlooks it, but it does also those two unions
bear a lot of responsibility. Win A Pacificer have eyeballs
on them. They increase these social media following on platforms
by over one hundred and fifty thousand. This year they
had forty eight thousand people turning up to their games.

(53:23):
There are eyeballs on this franchise, which makes it effort, yes, exactly,
which makes it an investment opportunity and a business opportunity.
I'm going to go out there and say I wouldn't
mind my taxpayer money be used to help keep from
the flight. Okay, you know you know how many you
know how many you know how much government money goes
into projects that just ended up being hoped. There's been roadwords,

(53:44):
roadworks on the road where I live for the past
eight months. I don't know anything about make it tip line.
I know much about roads, but it cannot possibly be
taking that long. So whatever money of mine is going
into that, put it into my winder. Because this is
a good news story and it's making people happy.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I'm going to come back again and we say, just
because you're seeing bad, bad use of taxpayer money, doesn't
mean we have to have more bad use of taxpayer money.
And if we're put it into more one Apacifica because
they're struggling, should we also put it into the hurricanes
because they're struggling in the hurricanes.

Speaker 19 (54:11):
If the hurricanes were about to fall over, would we
be having the same conversation, Because I think a lot
of people would come out and be like, no, we
need to do whatever we can to keep the hurricanes afloat.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I think it's not that far all. It's not outside
the realms of imagination that some of the other squads
also come close to falling over.

Speaker 23 (54:28):
The important thing here is what's happen behind the scenes,
though this is the effect it's going to have on
the pacifica community and the rugby players, which is one thing.
The other side of it, what is actually going on financially,
That is the interesting thing. How many conflicts of interest
are involved in there, with the way the money streams
through and goes from one organization from the government to

(54:49):
another organization and then suddenly owns the team that's got
to be opened up. And we have to let a
look at that, because that's important. I'm not saying there's bad, bad,
bad habits going on there, or there's something untoward, but
I think we need to look. If you're financing that
much trouble and you're losing millions of dollars, mate, you
go look at this. You can't hide under the blanket,
go someone bails out, find out what the root of

(55:11):
the problem is, right, So.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Listen on that though. I mean, at the heart of this, Nathan,
the problem is that we've actually got a super rugby
competition that is struggling, right, And if you look at
the audience numbers, this is just broadcast, not bad, but
not lifted from last year, is it.

Speaker 9 (55:24):
Well?

Speaker 19 (55:24):
I think it's really easy to go look at two
numbers and be like, oh, okay, the number's gone down,
so that's bad. Or the numbers the same as it
was last year, so it's stagnant. Like Okay, TV viewers
have gone down, yeah, one hundred percent lest people are
watching TV, right, but streaming viewers are up. The amount
of digital content being consumed is up. Eighty thousand more
people watch the Super Aguar Final this year, skoty go.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
You know, we're not counting that as part of the
broadcast viewership.

Speaker 19 (55:50):
The full package, sure, but like people are consuming content
in different ways. They're not necessarily watching the game live.
They're watching highlights packages afterwards, they're watching analysis videos, watching
content on tech talk and that sort of thing up.
And well, I'll tell you I'm on those platforms all
the time, and the amount of engagement on Super Rugby
content is really up there. There are constantly people arguing

(56:11):
in the comments about who should be playing for what team,
who's team's the best, And for all the talk about
rugby's dying, it's going out the window. I can see
the passion in the people who are using.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Those question is how you monetize it, right, because that's
the problem is how do you get those people who
are having the fight on X to actually pay you
some money for your content.

Speaker 23 (56:28):
I thing what Nathan's touching on as well, and he
talks about it because he's of that generation. How much
times he spends on social media and all of these
platforms to see that that's the future. The future is
not analog television and old Bugger's liking and he's sitting
down on a Friday night at seven o'clock and watch
and we're not the future. The future is the youth.
And I think that Super Rugby Pacific have climbed into that.

(56:48):
They understand that and they're trying to plow forward in
that sense, and that's the only way forward.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Is Okay, guys, let's take a break. Come back very
shortly sixteen away from six.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
The Friday sports HITDLE with New Zealand South of E's
International Realty, the ones with local and global reach.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Right you back of the sports Hitdle, we have got
Darcy Wadgrave, Nathan Lym. Nathan, do you think that the
cricket fans have got a reason to be reasonably upset
about the schedule this summer?

Speaker 19 (57:17):
I think they've got a reason to be disappointed. Like
the height of summer is January and February right. To
have no home cricket during those two months is disappointing.
Having said that, I really do think that New Zealand
cricket has done the best with what they have. There
is a T twenty World Cup in February, right, the
world doesn't stop so that we can have a good
summer and January. The really is the bigause of the

(57:37):
Black Caps are so much better now than they used
to be, you know, fifteen years ago, is we're a
much more attractive opposition and that means that teams come
to us, but it also means that we have to
tour them. And it just so happens that a couple
of years in a row we have had to tour.
During January, we're going to be touring India events. So
I would love to have test cricket all the way
through January and February. It's part of New Zealand culture.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
I see it.

Speaker 19 (57:57):
And it's disappointing that there is only three tests and
they are in December. But the reality is T twenty
is what makes money. And before you were used to
scheduling tests and you put odo cricket T twenty in
around the test. Now it's the other way around, and
they've done well to secure the three tests we do have.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
It just kind of is what it is.

Speaker 23 (58:14):
Follow the money, that's what it is. And as you
point it out in Eathan, I think the fact that
New Zealand cricket have been so flexible in the last
few years around what the dominant force in world cricket
is and where the money comes from, they should be
applauding for that. They've shown themselves to have enormous elasticity
if you will, around that space. And that's the same

(58:35):
with the contracts as well and letting guys go and play.
You can't stop this happening. You can't put again head
in the sand and I hope it goes away.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Awesome For us in the stars is that we need
to start watching a little bit more domestic cricket and
being interested in what's going on domestically, because you can't
just fly on the national squads.

Speaker 23 (58:52):
Well I watched domestic cricket, but that's tim a cricket,
So yeah, what it is and we don't know and
that of course the dime sick T twenty and the
like that is all moving on to help players get
into a position that they can play at the national
level and then they can get flogged by some pirate.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Mercenary tea league money for themselves as a professional. Dallan
waen is a lesliek Nathan. Is he a loss or
will the Warriors do what they do which as they
step up and they make you go? Dallan who he
is a loss?

Speaker 19 (59:23):
But it is something the Warriors will be able to
manage the course he's coming into the side. He's He's
scored two tries last weekend in the New Southwest Cup
Sides went against Penny.

Speaker 23 (59:33):
Dallan hasn't been great since he's come back from injury.
He was out for ten weeks with that injury and
he's come back and he's been jagging inside. He's not
been making again. Will on time, No no, no no,
but he will.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
He's not.

Speaker 23 (59:46):
They won't miss him as much because of his input
hasn't been as great as we know it could be.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
He will warm into it.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
We know this.

Speaker 23 (59:54):
I'm just saying it.

Speaker 19 (59:55):
The Warriors defense down there at each has been vulnerable.
That's where teams have been scoring try on Down's edge.
I don't think this has all been downs for I
like people like to bag down and say, oh he
comes in office, and he does from time to time,
but I think there has been issues with the center
position inside in the defensive positioning before that. I don't
think it's all on him. But having said that, given
Down's position and the other players that the Warriors have

(01:00:17):
at their disposal, taint to a peak. He played so
well earlier this year and he's waiting in the wings
as well, so I think the Warriors will be able
to manage this pretty well. The bigger question is is
managing the whole left by captain Mitch Barnett. Obviously he
ruled out for the season a couple of weeks ago,
so for me, that's still the bigger deal.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
Okay, do we beat the Broncos?

Speaker 5 (01:00:33):
Yeah, we beat the Broncos.

Speaker 23 (01:00:35):
Did you know that seln Cobo one of their best players,
he's not been playing, which is having been a ruckus
with him. He's actually joining the Dolphins just as well.
So they have got a phenomenal, phenomenal back line. Now
they've also got a couple of mean ass forwards. They're
playing at home and do you remember Nathan when the
Bulldogs were unbeatable and they went to Brisbane and they

(01:00:58):
got embarrassed. They've got the potential, they've got the potential
to floggers. But I think the embarrassment of last week,
the punch in the nose they got from Benbers. This
is a worries teammate, dude. That was shameful and they'll
come back all right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
You want to put the tax payer money, Nathan into
I told you Auckland City instead.

Speaker 19 (01:01:22):
Look look Auckland City are they are going to get
some prize money from how well they've done it? Are
they going to get We don't know, because the prize
pool is decided. There's a pool of it and then
it shared out depending on where you finished in the competition,
in the whole tournament. Now, Auckland City FC is currently
engaged in a legal dispute with New Zealand Football over
how their portion of the money is going to be

(01:01:44):
divvied up. So Auckland City FC they want to actually
put it into a I was talking to their chairman
earlier this week and they want to put it into
a community project. That's what they want to use some
of their money for. They obviously want to give the
players a bit more and you'd think that given their success,
what they've been able to do, they should be able
to decide where that money goes. Having said that, do

(01:02:06):
you raise the question, okay, do we start pouring money
into the National League.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Money?

Speaker 19 (01:02:13):
Is this result going to make everyone watch the National League?
I don't think so, because football fans are going to
watch Aukland f C. And they're going to watch the
Wellington Phoenix instead.

Speaker 7 (01:02:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:20):
Probably.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
How good was Aukland City.

Speaker 23 (01:02:22):
Darcy well going from shipping ten goals in the first
match to six and the second to drawing one of
the best teams in the world. That that is epic
and they can never have that removed from regardless climbers
and real estate agents and jimmies and whatever else and
like a genius hull mud too good.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Hey, thank you so much, really appreciate it. Nathan Limb,
News Talk ZIBBI, Sportsport of Darcy water Grave, Sports Talk Hoost.
It's eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Hither the problem is with super rugby is that the
players are pay too much compared to the revenue that
has actually bang on. Players have paid huge amounts hither
I entered the three road cone violations into the system
under your name. I wondered who that was, because three
of them came through last night. This is from Colin
Harttepeh Lake Taupo entire straight, two lanes of cones and

(01:03:18):
four cone trucks and one small truck working well. Actually, Colin,
I've already got a response from Downer, so here we go.
Let me read it to you like your chat GPT person.
Good morning, Heather slash Colin. We now find out thank
you for reaching out with your concerns about excessive road
cones at heart tepep. We wanted to let you know
that these road cones may seem excessive, However, they are

(01:03:38):
put in place to protect the safety of our staff
working on site because unfortunately, not all members of the
public adhere to the roadworks site speed limits. Good news, though,
our crew hope to complete their Colvit cleaning by five today,
so it should be done fifty six minutes ago, Colin.
If you go past it again, it should be okay.
When the site will be closed, all road cones will
be removed, However, if they don't get every r However,

(01:04:00):
if they don't get everything completed today. Please note they'll
be back on site again Monday for a while. Sorry,
Colin Kelly's let us down on that one. Anyway, You've
keep those road cone tips flooding and keep them busy.
Why not make the most of it, By the way,
really quickly. They are digging up at the moment. The
research is what they think is the world's oldest farming settlement,
and it turns out it turns out it was run

(01:04:22):
by women, not by men, which upends the assumption that
early agricultural settlements were ruled by men. This is a
village in Turkey. It's about eight and a half thousand
years old. We know that women were the most important
because girls who died were adorned with more elaborate burial
offerings than boys, about five times more gear, and females
usually remained connected to their household while males moved away.

(01:04:45):
So what it suggests is that the husbands were forced
to relocate to their wife's household when they were married.
As it should be. I've told you women, aren't We
are the born rulers, we are bossy, we are intelligent,
and also we're the ones stay at home. Therefore we
can sit there and plot and tell you what to do.
We designate and you do. This is how it should

(01:05:05):
be as in the old days in Turkey. This business
with the patriarchy is just a modern it's just a
recent thing. We'll get rid of it. Don't worry about it.
Murray Crane with us Next News Talks edb CLO.

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about the future of Auckland CBD well known Taylor Crane
Brothers has been a fixture on High Street for twenty
six years and so committed they've just signed for another

(01:05:55):
twenty five years now. Murray Crane is the man behind
Crane Brothers.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
Hi Murray, Hi head, how are you this evening?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
I'm very well, thank you? So what is it that
you're seeing in the CBD that others may be on't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Well.

Speaker 21 (01:06:09):
I think it definitely helps that I'm pretty close to
being here every day, so it is my daily kind
of commute to get here in the morning and be
here most of the day. So I definitely see a
lot of people with businesses who are seeing positive growth
and are trying new things, and there's a return to

(01:06:31):
people coming back. I think, you know, Covid really did
knock the CBD for SIS, and on top of that,
we had a lot of people working from home and
the numbers of the number of people coming into the
city reduced dramatically. But we're definitely seeing that tide turning

(01:06:51):
reasonably slowly, but it is turning that all the numbers
seem to be pointing in the right direction, which is great.
And in particularly where we are in high stre we're
seeing tendencies being refilled and lease is being fined and
people looking for space. So it feels like we're definitely
on the front flop, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
That's good to hear. And I know you've been pretty
positive actually because you you I've been getting text on
the show from you a fair bit actually calling us
out for being too negative about the CBD. So all
of that, do you think that the stuff that the
kind of the general narrative about there being too much
crime and too many too many you know, I guess

(01:07:31):
troublemakers in the CBD, and it can too many road cones,
not enough for traffic. All of that is kind of
is not true story, Is that what you're saying.

Speaker 21 (01:07:40):
I wouldn't say it's not a true story, but I
would say that I don't think it's any worse than
any other anywhere else in the world, and probably not
as bad as any other part of New Zealand, given
if you look at the spread of crime. I mean,
it is a large, bustling CBD, and I think some
of that narratives kind of a selfisforling prophecy. You know,

(01:08:02):
she kind of keept saying that things are bad. You
just believe that they are bad. I mean, it's not perfect,
but I think there's definitely been a large reduction in
crime and a large reduction in just general kind of
unrest in the city. As parts of the city begin

(01:08:24):
to kind of flourish and become active again. What we
tend to find with rough leapers and vagrancy is that
they they really don't want to be around areas where
there's lots of people. They tend to want to go
to parts of the city that are very quiet and
they can kind of be.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Left alone, basically them out.

Speaker 21 (01:08:45):
Yeah, so as the city becomes busier, we're seeing we're
seeing that move, which is why we're having these issues.
We've also had a big clamp down on retail crime
and new market which has kind of pushed that element
to others as as it's become as I've become more
aware of what's happening there. So it's a bit of

(01:09:07):
a moving target, but I don't think it's ever going
to go away. However, well it's polaced and however busy
or quite when you go to a city like London
which is incredibly busy and incredibly bustling, and there's just
as much crime because because of the scare volume of people.
So you kind of damned if you do, and you're
dan if you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Really, you guys are a store on Ponsonby Road, don't you, Yes,
we do. So did you see that piece that was
around earlier this week suggesting Ponsonby Road is possibly dying?
What do you think of that.

Speaker 21 (01:09:38):
I think there's some there's definitely some truth in that,
having been up there now for a few years and
then having had stores there in the past as well,
and I think I think that's partly symptomatic of just
the changing demographic of Ponsonby as well house prices, the

(01:10:00):
aged people living there. It's it's definitely feels like it's
lost some of its edge and I think.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Is it becoming a bit baby?

Speaker 21 (01:10:09):
There's a lot of empty spaces that's a land I
think there's a disconnection there with with what what the
people that live there want and what's available. Right there's
still some great stores.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Is the is the empty space is not a landlord problem?

Speaker 14 (01:10:24):
Uh?

Speaker 21 (01:10:25):
Well, our land world has been incredibly proactive with us so,
but he is. I mean they are quite a large
land land owner on Ponti Road, so they may be
in a slightly different positions of some other ones. I mean,
there's definitely pressure on land landlords the same way there
has been on house house buyers and house owners. They

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have the same challenges the business owners as well, and
they have challenges with that. If they've got borrowing on
their buildings, they they need to be meeting their covenants.
I guess with the banks, so yes, it's challenging for everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Murray listen, good to talk to you, Thank you, and
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Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Heard about the new boss of the British spies. I'm
going to have to get you across that very shortly.
Sixteen past six. Now, let's wrap the political week that
was with The Herald's political editor Thomas Coglan. Welcome back, Thomas, Right, Heather, Thomas,
I mean read that you ran Israel situation and the
bombing of around. Our government's been walking a pretty fine
fine line here not endorsing anything. Is that going to

(01:12:20):
change once some evidence comes through?

Speaker 17 (01:12:23):
I mean, if evidence comes through, I imagine you might.
We might be able to if the evidence supports the
US case, and there is you know, the Iranians do
have a nuclear program of a kind. If there's more
evidence that comes to light that shows how close they
were to making a bomb, then potentially you would see
US sign up to a more full throated defense of

(01:12:44):
the Americans, a bit like what the Australians did. The
Australian Foreign Minister Penny Wong was pretty supportive of what
the Americans were doing. You know, whether we can get
that evidence, whether that evidence will come to light, I'm
pretty skeptical. It's a pretty difficult country to get into
Iran and any evidence that that the regime itself furnishes
as possibly well, it certainly won't support the Americans case.

(01:13:07):
So so I would I would think that the likeliest
scenario is that we kind of stay in this. I mean,
David Seymour says we're not sitting on the fence, but
I still think we are a wee bit sitting on
the fence, and I think we'll probably stay there for
the foreseable future.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
But it's the kind of sitting on the fence that
is wise, isn't it, Because I mean, if you're going
to no one can no one can say with any certainty.
I mean, we all believe they were building a bomb,
and they ought to have been building a bomb, but
no one can say it with certainty.

Speaker 17 (01:13:33):
Yes, that the Uranians were enriching uranium. Look, I I
do not know much about building nuclear bombs. You'll be
relieved to know. But but the Uranians were. It seems
you're enriching uranium to the to the to a level
that that would make it, you know, plausible that the
end goal was was this or was it was a
nuclear bomb?

Speaker 9 (01:13:55):
You know?

Speaker 17 (01:13:55):
But but but again connecting the dots and going going
that that distance to actually saying this is what was that?

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
What this is what was going on?

Speaker 17 (01:14:02):
I mean that would that would be very very difficult
to prove, so and and and for that reason, you know,
there's no benefit in the in the government full throatedly
defending the Americans, nor is there much benefit trade wise
and internationally, you know, going all out criticizing the Americans. Either,
we're taking that classic New Zealand foreign policy strategy of

(01:14:24):
putting AIDS down and hoping no one knows.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Ye and lucky after that we can do that. Hey,
why was it that none of the other P four
leaders were at NATO with Luxeen.

Speaker 17 (01:14:34):
I think those in terms of the people are not going.
I think each country probably has its own reasons for that.
Anthony Alberanzi was overseas the Australian Prime Minister's overseas in
Canada at the G seven and that G seven meeting
was just a wee bit too far before the NATO
meeting for him to conceivably do both at the same time.
It would have been out of the country for a

(01:14:54):
bit too too long. The Australians have some I think
they call him the ear elbow or something got some
some mean nickname about Anthony Albanesi for the amount of
time that he's spent flying in his first term. So
Anthony Albanesi is very keen to make sure that he
doesn't spend too much time overseas in the second term.
So I think I think it's a domestic reason mainly
why they why they didn't go for lux And I mean,

(01:15:16):
I can see why we go to NATO every years.
We're not a member of NATO. We've been going every
year since twenty twenty two. But it's a good it's
a good one for us to go to because so
many powerful countries are the year, Like it's not any
chance you get to maybe see the US president rub
shovelers with the US President at dinner. What's worth getting
on a plane for that?

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Totally? Now, when are we likely to have a by
election in Thomaki Makoto.

Speaker 17 (01:15:38):
I actually don't know how how soon this says it
would be in the next few months, so that the
passing of the death of Takata tash Kemp needs to
be gauzetted, then the speaker that's speaking gazette it and
then the Prime Minister sits a date. I haven't heard
anything about when that date would be, but it'd be
in the next in the next few months.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I mean, if there is, you know, it's it's it's
obviously a terrible thing to lose somebody, especially somebody as
young as the MP. But if there was something good
that came out of it, it was a reminder that
that the people do not always need to fight in Parliament, right,
and that for all of the superficial fighting that goes
on there is there is a level of humanity across Parliament,
and to such an extent it even seemed to have
surprised Willy Jackson.

Speaker 17 (01:16:18):
Did you notice that, Yeah, yeah, I mean Willie Jackson
had had a great speech in the House yesterday talking
about the fact that you know, in politics, particularly Malordi politics,
it's pretty common to go hammer and tongs in the
house and hammer and tongues on the hustings. But then
when you're done, you go and have a cup of
tea and a sandwich at the Mudai and and and
you know, see the common interests that you share and

(01:16:39):
and and get along get along together as people. And
you definitely saw that yesterday. I mean, particularly like what
obviously the labor labor and green and peace, paid tribute
to uh To Taka tai. But but but but it
was also the opposition that sorry the government MPs. You
saw Shane Jones, who has been incredibly critical of to party,

(01:16:59):
my singing a very beautiful wiat and say some very
moving words about you know, mortality, and then even David Seymour,
who was acting Prime Minister. You know, David Seymour was
one of the most significant speeches, the most senior person
in the chamber speaking. He was very moving too, talking
about you know, the shared humanity of all MPs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Thomas, listen, thank you was always appreciated. Thomas Coglan, the
Herald's political editor, rapping the political week that was for us. Heather,
I'm a microbiologist. I'm afraid you are incorrect both colds
and flus of viruses, which is why you can't treat
them with antibiotics.

Speaker 18 (01:17:36):
Bucker.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
The cold was a bacteria for so long, and I've
been telling everybody this I'm wrong. Don't listen to me,
Listen to Allison Allison. I will note it's not only
a microbiologist, pro probably an old lady as well. Six
twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Be Heather say sorry, Steve, you were right from Steve.
Sorry Steve, you were in fact right. Should stop saying
things that I haven't actually researched before it comes out
of my mouth. I apologize, Okay. So here's here's the
update on the head of MI SX. Remember how the

(01:18:24):
new head of mix as a lady for the first
time ever. Well, it turns out her grandfather was a
Nazi spy. He was known as the Butcher. He was
Agent number thirty. He was Ukrainian. He defected from the
Red Army to help Hitler because he was cross with
Russia because Russia had killed his family and seized their
estate in the Revolution of nineteen seventeen. So, I mean,

(01:18:44):
it does kind of somewhat blunt the story, doesn't it.
It's not as if he defected from the good guys
to the bad guys as in the UK to the Nazis.
He defected from the bad guys to some other bad
guys you can choose which is worse. At one point,
the Soviet Union put a head on a bounty on
a head of fifty thousand rubles, which is about two
hundred thousand pounds. Now it's a fair amount of money,

(01:19:05):
and called them the worst enemy of the Ukrainian people.
She can there's plausible deniability. She never met her grandfather.
Six twenty six got your show biz news for today.
It's a goodie if you have been desperate to get
your hands on Meghan's jam or flower sprinkles. I'm sorry
to be the bearer of bad news, but you've missed
out again because Meghan has restocked her products this week
because the last batch sold out almost instantly. But I'm

(01:19:27):
devastated to tell you the second batch has also sold
out instantly again, and not even Meghan could believe it.

Speaker 24 (01:19:32):
We spent so much time making sure we had so
much more inventory. That's why we took the time, and
you guys are doing it again. We're nearly sold out
on everything and I can't believe it. Even Flower Sprinkles,
which I knew was going to be the big one again,
so that has more inventory than all of it, and
that's also about to sell out.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
And it's already sold out. Since she recorded that fantastic video.
There is hope though She's announced a new product for
her as ever line. It's whine. It is a Napa
Valley rose. Chances are it's not going to be great
because when people who are not wine people start trying
to make wine, it generally is just so awful. But
it is going to be pricey. We don't know what

(01:20:12):
the rose costs, but the Apricot jam was fifteen bucks.
The flower sprinkles were twenty five bucks. So you know
the wine's going to be up there. It's going to
go on sale July July one. That's next Tuesday, not
any old day because that would have been Princess Diana's
sixty fourth birthday and also the day that Harry first
messaged Meghan.

Speaker 17 (01:20:30):
Yeay.

Speaker 25 (01:20:31):
Peter lewis next to talk about, not Meghan, new stalk
Staus for a new person.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
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Speaker 20 (01:21:05):
Won't you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
And you've got Davin Gray out of the UK shortly.
A little bit of good news on consumer confidence. It's
on the app am Z Roy Morgan Consumer Confidence Survey
says it's lifted six points to ninety eight point eight
in June. Now that's a welcome change because it's a
dropped last month. It's a little bit soft in some
core areas though, proportion of households who think it's a
good time to buy a major household appliance negative seven.

(01:21:32):
Inflation experts expectations are up again to the highest level
in two years. Sharon's on this says the economy is recovering,
just taking a little bit longer than expected right now
twenty four away from seven. And Peter Lewis is our
Asia business correspondent with US out of Hong Kong.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Peter, Good evening, Heather.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
I see some analysts reckon that that China's limited role
in the Israel Iran conflict has exposed its limited leverage.
Would you agree.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
In some ways it has.

Speaker 26 (01:21:59):
China hasn't been able to do anything to help Iran
in this conflict. It did condemn both Israel and the
US for the attacks on Iran. And that's despite the
fact that Iran and China did sign a cooperation agreement
back in twenty twenty one, a twenty five year Cooperation Agreement.

(01:22:19):
One of the parts of that was that China will
be able to buy cheap oil off of Iran and
about a twelve percent discount to the prevailing market rates.
But really China is not a very good mediator in conflicts.
We've seen that in the past. It hasn't been able
to do much, for example in the Ukraine conflict. And

(01:22:39):
also it has this policy of non interference. It likes
to do development projects like the Belton Road Initiative, offer
loans to countries in the Global South, in emerging markets.
But it makes a point of saying we're not like America.
We don't get involved in your internal affairs, we don't
call for political change, we don't get involved in wars.

(01:23:03):
But what this has highlighted is two particular things where
China is now thinking it might be vulnerable. The first
one is on energy security and how reliant it is
on Iran for oil and the Middle Easter in general,
and it's going to have to think really about trying
to diversify more. It's energy security. There's been a talk

(01:23:24):
going on for years now about building a pipeline between
China and Russia, and maybe China will need to rethink
that and maybe think about perhaps speeding that up and
seeing if that project can get off the ground. The
other thing that really this has highlighted and China is
having a big rethink over is Taiwan. And China had

(01:23:45):
really assumed that if there was a conflict over Taiwan
that maybe America Donald Trump wouldn't want to get involved
in that. You know, his relationships are very transactional and
he wouldn't intervene in anything to do with Taiwan. And
in fact, one of the things that was going on
in the financial markets was what is known as the
Taco trade. Trump always chickens out, in other words, whenever

(01:24:09):
push comes to shove, he really doesn't follow through. Well,
this has been a shock to China because this time
in Iran he did follow through, and it's making them
completely rethink what he would do should there be any
moves on Taiwan. And this will be obviously a big
issue for China going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Jeez, that's fascinating because that is the opposite of what
we were predicting, right. We all thought, if he gets
himself tied up in Iran, the possibility that the strongest
possibility is the thing drags on, and it gives space
for countries like China to actually make moves while he's distracted.
But it's had the opposite effe, which is remarkable, isn't it.

Speaker 26 (01:24:47):
Absolutely? I mean this is really in many ways, has
been a good week for Trump's foreign policy. You know,
he's got this success in Iran. He also got this
success with NATO wordy persuade, did all of the countries,
with the exception of Spain, to increase their defense spending
up to five percent. I mean, he must be really well.
He is really gloating at the moment, and it's not

(01:25:09):
what people would have predicted. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
Yeah, it's fascinating. Now. Did you see, though, while while
we're celebrating what he's up to, did you see that
the White House has just said recently that July nine
is not a deadline that is now critical and it
may in fact be extended.

Speaker 26 (01:25:26):
Yes, that's correct, and in fact, in following up from that,
we've just heard today Donald Trump is claiming that he
has signed the trade deal with China. Now we've had
no confirmation of that from China. There was a press
briefing that the Foreign Ministry did earlier on today and
they were asked specifically about that and they had nothing
to say. But he is saying that the deal, which

(01:25:48):
really implements that Geneva agreement where they agreed to take
tariffs off or reduce tarifts on each other. But that
sort of fell apart with misunderstandings over things like China's
sports of rare earths. The US put restrictions on things
like semiconductor sales to China. So we then had that
London agreement. Well both held. Lucknick, the Commons Secretary and

(01:26:12):
Trump himself are saying that has been signed, and what's more,
they're going to do ten other deals before this July
to ninth deadline, which, as you correctly said, Katherine Levy
was saying just yesterday that wasn't a real deadline. It
could likely be pushed back.

Speaker 21 (01:26:28):
Now.

Speaker 26 (01:26:28):
We don't know who these ten deals are going to
be with, but I think you could assume Japan is
almost certainly one of them. India, whe you would think,
will be another one. The Japanese government has sent its
trade negotiator, now for the seventh time, over to Washington
to try and get some sort of deal. The sticking
point is on Auto's Donald Trump wants to keep Tarott's

(01:26:51):
twenty five percent tarrets on autos. This is a real
big issue for Japan because it's a huge part of
their economy and if they were to end up paying
those sorts of reciprocal tariffs that could well push the
Japanese economy into recession. So they're pushing back on that,
but so far no agreement. So we wait with baited
breath to see who these ten countries are. How Lucknik

(01:27:13):
is saying they're on the verge of signing agreements with.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
Citing day is always exciting with Trump and charge I
thank you, Peter, appreciated as always to talk to you
in a week. Peter lewis Asia Business correspondent.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Ever dol have you seen what's going.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
On with these thieves stealing petrol from underground petrol fuel tanks.
It's happening apparently around the North Island, and it's happened
a couple of gas stations at least have spoken out
about it. There's a gas station in Northland and then
there's another petrol station unspecified what the brand is in Hamilton.
So the gas station is and is that Kaihu which
is about twenty three minutes away from Dargaville. Now they reckon,

(01:27:47):
they've been hit twice and they've lost two thousand liters.
And what's happening is that the thieves are pulling up
and they're parking up by the underground fuel points and
they're just helping themselves. And it's not clear how they're
doing that, but I would imagine it's a pretty standard siphoning,
and it sounds like they are just chucking the fuel
in the back of the ute or the back of
the car, So you're assuming it's a stock standard self

(01:28:09):
siphoning into some sort of a you know, BYO canister.
Incredibly dangerous, as the petrol guys are saying, incredibly dangerous
because what's underground is about eighty to ninety thousand liters
of the good stuff, so if that goes up, it
goes up. And then of course if you're hening around
with some cans of petrol in the back of the ute,

(01:28:31):
I hope you know what you're doing there as well. Anyway,
on one of the occasions that this gas station in
Northland called the coppers, they say they called the coppers
while it was happening and the police told them no
one was coming, so she and her husband went out
and confronted the thieves themselves. Now I think that's interesting
because remember that we had the leaked memo recently and

(01:28:53):
it said, well, you know, we're not going to deal
with low level crime and if there's a petrol theft
of under one hundred and fifty dollars, we're just going
to file it. And came out and said, oh no,
that was no, Absolutely, that's not going to happen. Well,
judge for yourself, because it sounds like they may have
nicked a little bit more than one hundred and fifty
dollars worth the petrol. Anyway, couple confronted the thieves, husband
smashed the rear window of the car, but the thieves

(01:29:14):
were able to flee the scene. So if you see
some weird people loitering at a gas station in the
middle of the night, just don't hang around. Get out
of there quickly, because I don't feel like these people
know what they're doing. Sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Talks at me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Hither do you mean don't go over and ask for
a light? That's a good place to start, Bob, don't
don't don't go over and ask for a light, And
absolutely don't even go over in the first place, because
if it explodes, it's a big crater. I would imagine.
See they gone, you don't want to be gone with them?
Thirteen away from seven now Gavin Gray, UK correspondence with
us Elo Gavini. So what exactly the Palestinian supporters of

(01:30:01):
the EU for.

Speaker 11 (01:30:03):
Well, Israel and the EU have a massive set of
trading partnership. In fact, the European Union is Israel's biggest
trading partner, and what the protesters want is to suspend
the EU, to suspend that twenty five year old trading
accord over Israel's actions in Gaza. And they're pointing to

(01:30:26):
a report that the EU themselves have authored which had
found that there were indications that Israel had breached human
rights obligations under the EU Israel Association Agreement. And so
at the European Union leaders summit, they were hoping that saying, look,
you commission this report. It has shown that there are
clear indications that there are human rights breaches here and

(01:30:49):
therefore you should suspend the trade agreement. However, I'm afraid
that the EU once again unable to come up with
this sort of decision that everyone agreed with. And although
the protesters have been backed by more than one hundred
non governmental organizations and charities, I'm afraid they are just
saying no, we're going to carry on the trading agreement.

(01:31:11):
We're going to look at this report a bit further
and see a bit more about what it says. Oxfod
for instance, based of course in the UK, saying every
red line has been crossed in Gaza, every rule has
been breached. It's high time the European Union acts. However,
it fell to the Foreign policy chief, Kayak Kalus to
explain that the European Union would do well, not a

(01:31:33):
great deal, saying she's first goal is to change the
situation on the ground in Gaza, believing that if they
stop the trade deal it'll actually make life worse for those.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
On the ground.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Kevin I was fascinated by the fact that Kirstamer has
done a U turn on the benefits. Now, how damaging
is this to him? Personally?

Speaker 11 (01:31:53):
Extremely damaging, So This is the third U turn this
government has done in the last two three months. And
let's not forget they aren't even one year old yet.
So the first U turn that they did was effectively
a winter fuel payment cut for millions of pensioners. They
get a one off payment to help them with the

(01:32:15):
winter fuel payments. The government you turned on that and
said no, no, no, that won't now take place.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Then we heard that there was no.

Speaker 11 (01:32:23):
Need to hold an inquiry into the grooming gangs where
many men of Asian or Pakistani descent have been found
to be grooming young girls predominantly white in the UK.
This led to so much ill feeling and they were
told no, we won't be holding an inquiry. All of
a sudden they are. And then we were told it's

(01:32:44):
essential because of the blooming. The burgeoning benefit bill here,
particularly for those of working age who should be at
work but say they're too ill to work, was massive
and getting much too large. So they wanted to save
about twelve billion new Ze dollars a year by the
year twenty thirty, and they were going to cut lots
of payments to lots of people. Guess what it now

(01:33:06):
looks like owing to a rebellion within his own parties.
Se Keir Starmer's done a complete U turn on that
and said these reforms will only affect those who aren't
already claiming benefits, and that of course leads to a
two tier system. Those that are claiming it will receive
the money that they currently get. In future, however, you
might have exactly the same illness as somebody else but

(01:33:28):
not get the payment. So he's really getting himself into
hot water here, and he's seriously been weakened by roughly
one hundred and twenty of his own MPs despite having
a massive majority in.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
Parliamentkevin, good to talk to you. I really appreciate it, mate,
Devin Gray, UK correspondent, want to watch here? These youtunes
are becoming embarrassing for Keir Stammer. Colin's got back to
me on the road cone situation. So we've got a
little I'm going to take Colin's side on this, okay,
So down a email Colin made the complaint about the
road cones Downer emails, but Colin put mine emen and

(01:33:59):
then down emailed and they were like, man, that was fine.
Actually there was there was a fair amount of road
cones colinsays, Actually the issue was that there was only
one small truck doing the work. This is at hard
Teppe by Taupo, only one small truck doing the work.
Yet they had core coned off two lanes from hard
Teppa up to the top of the plateau a few
k's long, including the passing lane cone off around the truck.

(01:34:20):
But why kilometers of road? That's the issue where Colin,
that is the issue we are fighting now. Downer, I'm
not happy with your response because it seems to me
part of the problem here is that companies like Downer
actually think they're not road coning because they because they
they well I don't really know. I thought that they

(01:34:40):
were road coning because those were the dumb government rules.
They were like, I hate putting these cones out. I
wish they were not the rules. Actually, down is like,
I love putting out these road cones. Let's have so
many road cones. Because their response was it was totally fine.
So no, Downer, it's not totally fine. We don't like it.
Stop it. Colin will keep complaining and I'll keep reading

(01:35:00):
it out and saying your name on air, and that
will suck for you. Eight away from seven it's the
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Hey, Lord's album. We haven't dealt with this properly. This
is basically a national thing that's happening, right because she's
like a national institution. So the whole country needs to
pay attention to this. Lord's new album has been out
for eighteen hours or should we say is it twenty
one hours?

Speaker 11 (01:35:27):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Almost? It's about twenty one hours, isn't it. We're just
adding we're just counting it really quickly. At a length
of about thirty five minutes. It means the die hard
fans may have listened to it possibly or nineteen hours,
so they've probably listened to it thirty two times.

Speaker 7 (01:35:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
You know by now that nobody is as big a
fan as Sam Our producer. He took the day off
and this is not a joke. He took the day
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In his review, he says ten out of ten. Virgin
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and the girl we met at sixteen experimental production reaches
new limits. Blah blah blah, Clear Blue and David are

(01:36:04):
two major standouts. These are the songs Clear Boo. Blue
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for something to hold on to like a souvenir. David
is a swelling epic about purging the last of your
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timeless classics a massive effort. Rolling Stone four and a

(01:36:27):
half stars out of five. Guardian four out of five
times was harsh two out of five. Sam has since
followed up with an addendum to this to me to
tell me that there are a number of references that
we Alla has made to her ex boyfriend in which
she suggests that he liked to spit in her mouth.
So there's that, and.

Speaker 22 (01:36:49):
I mean, never break up with a music just don't
do it to be really nice to them.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
They're going to tell this kind of thing to everybody
and now we know what you do.

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
That's right.

Speaker 22 (01:36:58):
I also gave Sam mcau's well to ask what will
be a good one in the show with and he
reckon this one. It's called grown Woman, but you spell
at gr WM. I'll just sort of let that sit
speak for itself, Like the song is called gr WM,
but it's clearly grown Woman because of what the lyrics
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Yeah, okay, too clever for me, but I do get
it and get enjoy. See you, hey, enjoy your weekend.
Keep those road tips road cone tips coming through to
the tip line. Why not, I'll read them out now.
I'm enjoying this actually quite a lot. Weirdly, See you
on Monday.

Speaker 27 (01:37:29):
Look after Yourself, Mama's arm streets Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
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