Full Show Podcast: 28 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
duplicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like
no one else.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
News talks heavy.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Afternoon.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Coming up today the Minister on the government loosening the
liquor licensing laws, the former boss of Costco on whether
we're going to get more cost goes and whether that'll
actually bring down our grocery prices. And NIEWA on whether
their new thirty five million dollars super computa will make
us better at predicting the weather.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Heather duples Cyllen, It's.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Fair to say World rugby's copping it today a even
more so than yesterday. This is following the death of
Shane Christy, the former Highlander who had the headaches and
the memory loss and all those other symptoms that were
consistent with CTE from too many head knocks. A former
Whales number eight with early on set dementia, Alex Popham
has gone straight to World Rugby and the All Blacks
as Twitter accounts and told them they've got blood on

(00:50):
their hands and our very own Scotty Stephenson has written
a piece saying it's time to stop spending money on PR.
This is obviously for rugby time to stop spending money
on PR and start spending money on helping the former
players with these symptoms. Absolutely, I mean, there is no
doubt that World Rugby could be doing more right. The
standown period for a professional rugby player for a suspected
concussion is, what do you think, twelve days It's that's ridiculous,

(01:13):
twelve days, twelve days. In boxing, it's thirty days. And
if they actually lose consciousness and they know they've lost consciousness,
it could be anywhere from six months up that they're
forced to stand down. I think we've all seen pretty
gnarly cases of head knocks recently, or players talking about
migraines over the summer period, only for them to be
back on the field when they, if you were being careful,

(01:34):
should not be back on the field. And who knows
what World Rugby will be forced to do once these
lawsuits are successful. But here's the thing. Our ability to
keep blaming the rugby bosses is going to run out,
if it hasn't already, No player in twenty twenty five
can blame World Rugby if they end up with these
symptoms in years to come. No one playing rugby in
twenty twenty five doesn't know that if you take repeated
knocks to the head, you are opening yourself up to

(01:56):
future problems. We know that, in fact, we already knew
it when Shane Christie was playing professionally, even if we
didn't know it as widely as we do today. It
is terrible that this may be the thing that has
happened to him. It is terrible that it is undoubtedly
happening to rugby players playing today. But personal responsibility is
now very much in play here.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Heather duplusy Ellen.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Nineteen nine ten is the text number standard text fees applied.
Greek Foreren has delivered his final profit as the boss
of Air New Zealand before he leaves in a couple
of months time. The airline offered him an extra nine
hundred thousand dollars to stay on, but he decided to
leave anyway. Air New Zealand made an annual net profit
after tax of one hundred and twenty six million dollars.
That is down fourteen percent on the year before. And
Gregor is with us. Hello greg hi there, how are you?

(02:43):
I'm well? Thank you your final result, but as sweet.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Yes, it is you know, I've been almost six years
at the airline and been incredibly enjoyable. So bit sad
leaving a number of people in a few weeks time,
but also excited for Nickel and his opportunit unity and
also for the rest of the team.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, do you. I mean, it's been a tough industry
to be in the last few years. Probably couldn't have
been worse. Are you happy to put it behind you?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Do?

Speaker 7 (03:12):
You know?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
As you reflect on these things, you always learn more
when it's hard than when things are easy. So I
do actually appreciate the fact that it has been difficult,
and you know, whether it was starting when COVID began
and doing capital raises and then hurriedly having to restart
the business and sort of a parade of engine challenges,

(03:34):
and now we've got a few other headwinds. But you learn,
and I would say to you that I'm proud of
what we've done and what we're doing and the way
we're setting ourselves up.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
So why are you leaving?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
Well, I've got another you know, itch that I need
to scratch in terms of what I want to do,
and I can't share anything about that at this stage.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
So there is something here. It's not just lying in
the sun.

Speaker 8 (03:57):
No.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Secondly, if you've got succession in place at a point
in time, you need to let people get on and
do that because otherwise you stand the risk of losing them.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Can you at least tell us if you're etches locally
or overseas?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I can't at the stage on So have you heard
the rumors? I've not heard any room rumors are.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
You're too busy?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
The rumors are either that you're the new rugby boss.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
I've not heard that rumor.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
And as I said, so we can scratch that one off,
can we?

Speaker 5 (04:26):
I have no knowledge of anything.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Now listen, profit down this year, profit down last year.
When does it turn around? Do you think?

Speaker 5 (04:34):
I think we're in for another challenging year this year,
to be honest, so perhaps the year after. But it's
going to be tough this year.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Is it the difference?

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Different set of circumstances. We're still dealing with engines. We
don't expect any significant improvement there and we've said, you know, look,
we came in at one hundred and eighty nine pre tax.
We would have done another one hundred and sixty five
million on top of that. If we could have flown
what we wanted to, we ended up flying less than
what we did the previous year, which is never what

(05:04):
you want to do, but that's what happens. The economy
is still pretty tough out there domestically, and you know that,
and your listeners know it, our customers know it. So
we're dealing with that, and we're seeing that with sort
of less government spend, less corporate spend and even leisure
travel domestically is still pretty tough. But the other thing

(05:24):
that we're leaning into is we get a fair amount
of inflation coming our way, and inflation that you would
expect on things like spare parts comes our way, and
it's been forty percent over the last five years, but
it's ten percent again on top of that this year.
But then we're seeing other services that we get and
that could be CIA airways, airports. If I just took

(05:47):
those three that the airports, the CIA, av SEC and airways,
that's laid in eighty four million dollars worth of cost
for us just this year. So we're going to work
out how to become more efficient. We're doing some of that.
Lots of things that I could talk about, but as
well as that we absorb a bit and you can
see that in the profit result and then of course

(06:09):
you do have to pass some on.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, so do you have I mean, as a guy
leaving and leaving an industry where it is really tough
to the point that we have regional airlines asking for help,
what would be your advice to the government to help them?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Well, I would look a field and say, what do
you see happening elsewhere? And you know, if I look
at Australia, twenty seven twenty eight million people, two airlines,
and they struggle to make a regional airline work. Example Rex,

(06:46):
So I think Rex recently got about a fifty million
dollar bailout by the Australian government in order to keep
flying two locations. Similar sorts of things happen in the US.
If I look in places like Finland, and when I
see that happening, if we want airlines to operate in
really remote locations, they're going to.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Need a hand.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
And that hand could come by having a look at
the total ecosystem and saying how do we deal with
all the costs that are in that ecosystem? And or
it could be some type of financial assistance. It's tough
running an airline. You know, they are really capital intensive.

(07:31):
We've made this year two cents in a dollar, and
I'm actually proud of the result. We had to work
really hard to do that. We've tried to keep fears
reasonable and at the end of the day, two cents
in the dollar. And we've still got to buy new planes.
You know, got two new Boeings coming in the beginning
of next year. You don't get much change out of

(07:51):
two hundred million dollars for each plane.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Well, I'll tell you what if I was you, I'd
be very happy to leave two cents and a dollar
behind and go to greener pastures. Tell me, if you
you're not going to tell us what you're doing, are
you at least going to get a break before you
do it?

Speaker 5 (08:03):
Look, that will depend on what I end up doing.
And I haven't decided yet. So maybe my wife loves me,
but she also loves me outworking.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Says every wife. Greg. Thank you very much, Greg for
in New Zealand's chief executive Hei. There is CTE only
a rugby problem. Look at Wally Lewis in League AFL
only has a twelve day stand. Doown stop blaming this
on just rugby, Paul, I think you misunderstand what I'm saying.
I'm not just blaming this on rugby. I'm blaming this
on us. Now we know what it is. Listen if
you want to if you take a head knock. I'm

(08:35):
not going to name names, but I was reading an
article one of our most famous all blacks, like current Crop,
reading an article about him a few years ago a
couple of seasons ago, complained about like extensive migraines basically
all of his summer break, and then was back on
the field and some ridiculous I think it was like February.
We started early or something like that. Back on the
field in February, and I was like, you shouldn't be playing, bro,

(08:57):
You've clearly had too many head knocks. So I'm blaming
it on us. If you want to be a professional
rugby play player, no, all of the stuff that we
now know, and you still want to go on and
do that when you clearly have got something going on
in your head, It's on you. Full sixteen It's the.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
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Speaker 9 (09:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
The Greg is presenting the facts. People will complain, but
he is actually a big loss to US nineteen past four.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
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stads SORR eighteen bit responsibly.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I see water Grave sports store coasters with USLO.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
Does hey, Heather, let's climb straight on unto this the
bets of the week. If you will remember R eighteen
do bet responsibly. We've got this thing about multis going
on at the moment, right. I think they're quite funny,
but with a twist. So I've taken the under one
dollar twenty odds in the NPC. Okay, so there are
five of those games. They have plenty of dollar four

(09:52):
end win Canterbury a dollar thirty in to win, Taranakia
dollar eighteen to win, Tasman a dollar seventeen to win,
Waikato a dollar six to win. Now it's not a
sure run thing, but you don't actually win that much
of you do that. So what you do is you
add something a bit crazy at the end just to
see and my a bit crazy is well the Auckland
has finally win a game they're playing against. Well, heaps

(10:14):
are three sexty to win. But if you put them
all together in a heap Wellington. I've got four all
blacks coming back, so best of luck. They haven't been
great this here either, but they've got to win sometime
twenty bucks on that one hundred and fifty bucks.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Hey, you're not stupid?

Speaker 11 (10:29):
Ay?

Speaker 10 (10:30):
Oh wow, thank you. I could cuddle you right now.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
Okay, talk to me about the lucky loser, because I
don't get it. What is the difference with the lucky
What are we changing about the lucky loser? Simply that
the lucky loser is the one that has to travel.

Speaker 10 (10:44):
Well, the lucky loser loses all rights to play at home?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Is that what it?

Speaker 7 (10:48):
Jan?

Speaker 10 (10:48):
Drops right down the table? Okay, So the highest ranked
losing team from the qualifying finals, which is the first final,
the top six right sex place one and back from
that two, five, three, four, right, So once that goes
through the next is basically the semi finals. But if
you lose, is the top that you've got to be
excuse me, the highest ranked losing team you'll progress is

(11:09):
the fourth seed. You won't just go second. So it
won't offer that problem that we had last year. It
will be and here it is what I've always liked
about systems regardless of how they work out, keep winning
and no one cares. Yes, that's the whole idea. Start
keep winning. Stock complaining about second best or lucky lose it.
Just keep winning. Like keep winning it means you stay

(11:31):
at home. You keep winning at home. You And what
I like about this has been pointed, I'm sure a
lot of people is that the sniff test. I think
Jason Pine called it. They looked at that, that a
stiff that went, oh that stinks. We're going to do
something about that.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
And they did it. Yeah, they didn't wait away.

Speaker 10 (11:48):
They didn't some one we were going to say, we're
going to talk to all the union, Oh, we're going
to do this. We go maybe in ten years you
might do something. This is what Super Pacific are doing.
Now they're going this is a problem, let's change it.
And Jack miss is going to join us on the
show to night to talk about this. This new draw
and no games to be confirmed with the Blues home games.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Well, what's that supposed to mean.

Speaker 10 (12:13):
Why, there's a possibility there's been thrying up the idea
a couple of weeks back that maybe, just maybe they
won't play all of the games at Eden Park because.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
It was already locked in.

Speaker 12 (12:22):
How many mounts canous mess?

Speaker 10 (12:28):
I don't know that. The problem with Mount Smart is
they've got two other teams.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Well, hold on, I've confused. What's our local team called
Auckland and the Blues? What's the well.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
The Blues is that.

Speaker 10 (12:43):
Organds where you live. That's the NPC. The Blues are
a conglomerate of it. Super fan.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
No, the Blues, I'm sure, I'm sure the Blues have
confirmed that they're playing two games.

Speaker 10 (12:57):
They they say TVC when you're conducing to.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Me, because your face was confusing me. But in the
end I was who.

Speaker 10 (13:04):
Knows what they're going to do around where they play
all of their games?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Darcy Wave of course talk four twenty three.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
The name you trumped to get the answers you need,
it's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand coverage
like no one else US talk there'd be hey.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
So the government's announcement yesterday about the supermarkets, as we
discussed yesterday, it seemed to be squarely aimed at Costco questions,
of course, is Costco going to open more supermarkets around
the country? They were already going to do Wellington and Rickton, Ricketon, Ricketen,
I think it was. It was somewhere in Christchurch. Anyway,
why haven't they follow up question? It was Rolliston, That's
where it was. And is it going to bring down

(13:49):
our grocery prices? All of this. We're going to talk
to the former boss of of Costco, have a chat
to him after five o'clock. Okay, here we go. I
I'm already getting texts about it because because it appears
that John Tamahada has rarely lost as nut, isn't it
He's done it in He's something weird going on with him.
He was doing a podcast. This is he, by the way,

(14:10):
is relevant at the moment because he is of course,
the president of the Marti Party has done a recent
podcast and he said the government is worse than Nazi Germany.

Speaker 13 (14:18):
So you've got this whole problem in the whole of
government where you've got this bully boy mentality, you step
out of line. Any academic that wants to provide an
alternative economic opinion is beat up right now. No, this
is worse than Nazi Germany. This is a fastest praising.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
Fastiest I forgot he said that. I laughed the first
time I heard that and I enjoyed it just as
much as the second time fastiest you dick anyway, if
you're going to use the word use it properly anyway.
I mean the giveaway that this is not Nazi Germany
is I don't know, the lack of concentration camps. Then
he went on and had a crack at the Marty

(15:03):
Development Minister, Tama Pawtucker.

Speaker 13 (15:05):
Tama Portucker is a disgrace to our Marty Race. Okay,
he sits there, says nothing makes up stories. We've got
the worst social housing problem out exited people out into
the gutter in the winter.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Except yeah, yeah, yeah. Boss of the Public Service Brian
Roach too.

Speaker 13 (15:22):
Have a look at who runs the state services at
the moment.

Speaker 14 (15:26):
He didn't.

Speaker 13 (15:27):
He didn't apply for that job. He was appointed, right,
So he's just a typical National Party hit man, right.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
See, his tick is coming along quite nicely. Anything. I
just feel like it's open season on Brian on off.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Brian's thought.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
They're all as bad as each other. It's on time ahead.
I wouldn't normally be that unkind about him, but he does.

Speaker 14 (15:48):
He does.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
He's asking for it, and because what you've got to
wait to hear what he says about Judy. Stand by
for that.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in
your car on your drive home, it's Heather duplicy Ellen
drive with one. New Zealand had of power of satellite
mobile news talks, they'd be.

Speaker 8 (16:12):
I remember when we were driving.

Speaker 15 (16:15):
Driving in your car speeds the faster Feller dram right.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Garry Sop is going to be at us and ten
minutes Simon Murray Olds is standing by. I have to
apologize to Darcy. He has insisted on it twice now
in the intervening period between him being on the show
and now I need to apologize to him. That the
Blues have not confirmed yet that they will be playing
at Mount Smart two of their games. I read it
in the Herald. The Herald said it was understood. I

(16:40):
assume if the Herald says it, then it's basically confirmed.
But obviously that's that's that's so bad for me, and
it is not yet confirmed. We will see what happens.
Parcel mail is resuming to the US. I can tell
you New Zealand posters confirmed this. They're going to start
getting the because remember they stopped the parcels because of
the tariffs. They're going to start them again, but only

(17:00):
for business and commercial operators, and only if they have
postal accounts. Everybody else's parcels are still not going to
get through to the US. They're working on a solution.
They reckon it should be a week, a few I think.
I think what they said was a few weeks or so.
Twenty three away from five.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's the world wires on news dogs. They'd be drive.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Two young children have been killed in a shooting in
a church in Minneapolis. It's being investigated as a hate
crime against Catholics. This boy was in the church the
first one.

Speaker 16 (17:27):
I was like, what is that?

Speaker 17 (17:29):
I thought to just something the like again. I just
ran under the pew and I covered my head. My
friend Victor like shaved me though because he laid on
top of me, but he got hit.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
The suspect in the Victorian police shooting is still at
large two days after the attack. Here's premieerjacent to Alan.

Speaker 16 (17:47):
I'd love to convey my deepest sympathy to the family,
the friends, the colleagues of the two officers. To Detective
Leading Senior Constable Neil Thompson and Senior Constable that m.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
De Vart Murrayol's of this Shortly and finally, our postcard
has been returned to a sender seventy two years after
it was originally sent. Alan Ball sent the postcard from
somewhere in New York to his parents in Ottawa in
nineteen fifty three, but it got lost somewhere in the system.
So the card then turned up somehow at an Illinois

(18:21):
post office earlier this year, of all times, and the
postmaster was intrigued, so he tracked down Alan Ball returned it.
Alan doesn't remember sending the postcard, but to be fair
to him, he sent it when he was a teenager
and he's now eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
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Speaker 4 (18:39):
Murrayol's Ossie corresponds with us, Hey.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Mas, very good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
Happens still not track this guy down?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
No, And look, conditions are dreadful. It's raining, absolutely bucketing
down down there. It's very very cold, as a cold
front whipping through wins you strong enough to blow a
dog up a chain. And it really is very tough going.
And the fellow they're looking for, I mean, you've got
literally hundreds of police. You got dogs, you've got helicopters,
you've got coppers on motorcycles. I dare say police on

(19:08):
horseback as well. It's that sort of country if you
can imagine the toughest part of the West Coast in
the down South or maybe the Coromandel, and it's that dense.
And here's the thing. The guy they're looking for, he's
des philby You also known as Desi Freeman. We get
it because he is a man who was He's not

(19:32):
a fan of a law. He says, he's got sovereign president,
does not obey police, does not recognize governments. He knows
this country very very well. He's been living in a bus,
very privative, off the grid with his wife and two children.
They are accounted for. They went to see police I
think Tuesday and not a Wednesday morning, so he's been
on the run, of course ever since he shot well,

(19:52):
the allegation is that he shot dead the two police
officers and wounded the third. And he knows the area
very very well. He's a good bushman, knows the country,
can live out the in the you know, in the rough,
in the field, so that you know, this hunt will
go on until they find them.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
Do we know yet what the police were turning up
to talk to him about.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yes, it was in relation to allegations of some sort
of underage child sexual activity. That the allegation is he
was involved with this in these sexual offenses against at
least one child under the age of sixteen. So we
don't know anything further beyond that. That's what was released, right,

(20:33):
you know, in the immediate aftermath of this tragedy down there,
I mean, it really has a hell of a shock wave,
not just through Victoria. I mean, you know, it doesn't
happen every day and day, right the two police officers
doing their jobs get shot dead and they don't go home.
It is very, very shocking, and people have responded accordingly.

(20:53):
You know, to be down there in Victoria, you basically
you just can't believe what's happened. I mean you heard
just Center Allen there. She's absolutely shocked the call.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah too, right now, See, Britney Higgins has lost her defamation.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
She has you know, this is just this slow motion
drama that's played out of men. She was attacked six
years ago in the office of Linda Rendols, who was
a minister in the Morrison government. She was attacked by
Bruce Lherman, her colleague. They were both staffer for Miss Reynolds,
and that was definitely proven. It was found to the
satisfaction of the Federal Court last year that yes, she

(21:29):
was raped by Lherman. But the thing here is that
Britney Higgins and Brittney Higgins then alleged in a series
of social media posts that basically her boss and the
boss's chief of staff, both women, basically tried to persuade
her to play it down. The suggestion was that you know, look,

(21:54):
let's not take this too far. Okay, we've got the
federal election coming up and so on. Well, for Linda Renolds,
who was the minister in the Morrison, that was absolutely intolerable.
She said, under no circumstances would I walk away from
what happened to that young woman. Never and the same
for a female chief of staff. You're kidding. Neither of
us did anything of the sword, and that's now been proven.

(22:16):
She sued Higgins for defamation and has been and has
been vindicated in the Supreme Court in Western Australia. Basically,
what happened, I mean Higgins was raped, yes, and the
Federal government in a one day hearing paid her two
point four million dollars without getting any evidence whatsoever from
Senator Reynolds. And so she's now going after the Commonwealth saying, well,

(22:39):
hang on a second. All that did, all that did
was reinforcing the public eye, Heather, that I'd done wrong.
And what now is going to happen. It's a minimum
three hundred and thirty five thousand Australian dollars and damages
that they have to be paid by Higgins toward two rendoalds.
But her legal bill, Heather, could be in the order
of one and a half to two million dollars. Have

(23:00):
to have sold their house in France that they bought
with that payout. And you know, this saga just drags
on and on and on. But a comprehensive victory for
Linda Reynolds and her chief of staff is going through
a separate avenue. But she also is going to be
claiming some sort of compensation. That's the apparently what's going
to happen.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Thanks for talking us through that. It's Murray Old's Australia correspondent.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Heather Do for ce Ellen.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
So I'm happy to tell you that the government is
loosening up the rules around liquor licensing, because I don't
know if you've been following lick a licensing, but this
has this has become ridiculous, especially in a place like
Wellington where where basically you've got I'm sorry to say
it's largely the coppers who are making it really hard
for Wellington hospow joints to actually sell booze. But anyway,
what the government's done has made it harder to object.

(23:48):
You can only object a few people from the local community.
It would also give the applicant the right to respond
to objections that they hear at the district licensing committees
and blah blah blah. Also going to loosen restrictions for
breweries and cellar doors and look into digital ideas. This
is what I love. This is Nicole Mackey. Most New
Zealanders who choose to drink alcohol do so responsibly. Our

(24:08):
reforms recognize that responsible drinkers should not be penalized because
of the behavior of a few who do not drink safely.
Here here she's with us after five o'clock. Here's John
tarmaheera getting personal against Judith Collins.

Speaker 13 (24:21):
Than God, that woman Colins what a real ugly, little
evil person. And always even the way you're starting to look.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
That's not fair objectively. Objectively, Judith's hair and brows are
on point at the moment. Sixteen away from.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
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Speaker 4 (24:43):
Thirteen away from five. Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, is
with us in studio.

Speaker 12 (24:47):
Hey Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
What do you make of the liquor licensing rule changes?

Speaker 12 (24:50):
Well, I think they're long overdue. Actually, that's been very
restrictive in communities. Under the reforms, only people from the
local community would be able to object to new license applications,
while applicants would gain a formal right of reply. So
that's a good change. The other changes will allow and

(25:11):
you'll you'll be happy with this one.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
Here.

Speaker 12 (25:12):
When you go to the hair dresses, you'll be able
to have a drink legally. So wineries, breweries and distilleries
in fact off licenses.

Speaker 10 (25:22):
They'll let hair dresses and.

Speaker 12 (25:24):
Barbers serve small amounts of alcohol without a license. But
then I guess the question is asked, isn't it what's
a small amount of alcohol? So I don't know how
they're gonna get around that.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
One small to you might be someone else's gigantic quantity.

Speaker 12 (25:36):
Precisely you come out come out of the hairdresser looking
rather wonky. But then to tide the point, it's interesting.
Nicole McKee, who's the Associate Justice Minister. She said the
changes also included harm reduction measures, she tells us including
barring delivery services from serving highly intoxicated buyers issues.

Speaker 18 (25:58):
Hooper Eats as one excemp or where they already have
measures in place to make sure that they are delivering.

Speaker 19 (26:04):
To the correct people.

Speaker 18 (26:05):
We want to ensure that that's across all delivery services,
and it will be incumbent upon them to ensure that
they do not serve or deliver to those that are
already well intoxicated and those that are underage. There is
a bit of a loophole there in the deliveries, and
so I'm making sure that we are managing that and
closing it.

Speaker 12 (26:24):
How on earth they're going to do that, I don't know.
You imagine, if you're an uber driver, you turn up
to an address, somebody's pissed at the door and wants
to take delivery of more alcohol that you're going to
tell them no, you're not allowed to have it because
you're drunk. I mean that's really putting.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
A lot look away.

Speaker 12 (26:43):
Well no, I just I think it could create for
Uber drivers and the like. Other delivery people are real problem. Well,
if somebody's boozed and you're, you know, you keeping the
liquor from them, I wouldn't like to be in that position.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
No, fair enough, okay, So explain to me how this
electric office rent is working.

Speaker 12 (27:03):
Well, I think it's a bit of a storm to
keep teacup actually, because they're saying Chris Luxon he has
a rental property that he's letting out to Parliamentary Services
for his electorate office. And look, if you've got a
property you might be your elector office. There could be

(27:24):
I guess some would see a conflict of interest there.
But he's made it quite public that he earns about
forty five thousand dollars a year for his office. But
it's not only that Labor's doing the same thing. They're
letting out offices as well. And these are officers that
Labor Properties Limited own, so they're all doing it. I

(27:47):
can't see there's anything wrong in it. I mean, if
you've got to have an electorate office, you've got the
landlord's got to be somebody.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Well, I think that, Barry. The problem is the perception
that these guys are making bank of us because they
are all right, they're getting into it. They should be
getting into it and serving the people of New Zealand,
not making bank. And every single one of them based well,
that's not fair. Many of them are making bank.

Speaker 12 (28:08):
Well, you know, you own a building, you own an office,
you're on an electorate office, So would you sooner pay?

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Another Lane says sorry, gee, sorry, I answer. I answered
your question, answered your question. Hey, can I have you
seen have you heard what John?

Speaker 12 (28:27):
I was going to talk about it, but look, tell
me what you I think the comments are disgraceful, to
be perfectly honest, and this is typical of John Tammaherdy.
And I've got to say the Moldi Party, there are
a bunch of protesters. They have seats in parliament unfortunately,
so I guess you've got to talk about what they
say and what Tamma Harry has said, not just that,

(28:49):
he said much worse than that about Nazi Germany.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
It's just not all Hey, Barry, thank you very much
appreciate it. Barry Sober, senior political correspondent nine away from five.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Putting a tough question to the newspeakers the Mic Hosking Breakfast, the.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Willis as the Minister for Economic Growth.

Speaker 20 (29:04):
We all agree red tape, Yes, clean it up, but
elder don't want to bar of it.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Little don't want to bar of it.

Speaker 11 (29:09):
Ask yourself why, First of all, we don't agree.

Speaker 21 (29:11):
We've got an opposition opposed.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
You forget it there, idiots.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
You're in charge.

Speaker 22 (29:15):
Get on with the red tape.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
I owe it to.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Everyone to make sure we've taken all those steps before
I take any more dramatic modes.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
We're on the side of a shopper.

Speaker 20 (29:24):
We're all on the side of the shopper. But I
just want more actions. This is where your messages are
getting mixed wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Glash and burn the paper.

Speaker 20 (29:33):
You've got to admit Costco and not rolling out a
series of nationwide supermarkets. Back tomorrow at six am The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Avida News talk z B.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Here the John Tommy Heat is letting himself down with
his recent comments. He's better than that, HM. That would
be a minority view. I would imagine to be fair, listen,
the Prime Minister's cringey proposal for Taylor Swift and Travis
has actually paid off just a little bit. He hasn't
made it onto any of the big shows, but this
is the one where he said yesterday that he has

(30:04):
invited them, on the day of their proposal being made public,
to come and get married here. He has made it
into the Mirror, the online version of the Mirror, and
he's made it onto CNN's TikTok. They've done a little
real on the TikTok, had got twenty four thousand likes,
a thousand comments, eight hundred shares. It's better than nothing,
you'd have to say. And then in the Mirror article,
it's hard to kind of see the readership of the
Mirror article. What the Mirror is widely read over in

(30:27):
the UK. This is what they've written honeymoon. In a
strange turn of events, even world leaders have got caught
up in the Swift Kelsey wedding mania. Prime Minister Christopher
Luxon has extended an open invitation to Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelcey to host their wedding or honeymoon. In a
video posted on social media, he told them, blah blah blah, whatever,
all the stuff. If Taylor and Travis do fancy spending

(30:49):
their first holiday as a married couple in New Zealand,
they could treat themselves to a luxury New Zealand's self
Drive tour, because that's what you want to do when
you come here. You want to self drive yourself with
prices starting at sixty two thousand dollars for two weeks.
I think we're trying to make bank off them. What
do you think I think we've looked at them, We've

(31:10):
gone that's a million dollar ring on your finger. Oh no, No,
when we said the car is two thousand, what we
meant is sixty two thousand. They can then leave the
getaway car keys at the hotel and explore Australia and
New Zealand on a luxury silver Sea cruise with ordly
traveling with the Seaventure setting them back thirty seven thousand
dollars for twenty five days, really selling ourselves there, which

(31:32):
totally the mirror has undone all of the good work
that Chris Luxon had done. But anyway, there you go.
At least he's done it. So if you were cynical
about what he did yesterday and you were thinking it
was cringey and not worth it. At least he got
some pick up from it, so it made it slightly
worth it, isn't it. Now we're going to talk to
Nicole McKee shortly about the liquor licensing. Also going to
talk to Patrick Noon, who is the former Costco managing director,

(31:55):
about where the Costco will actually set up and if
so were and will it bring down our gross through prices.
But also the thing I'm most looking forward to finding
out in the next half hour of the program is
whether the thirty five million dollars supercomputer that we've brought
from Niewer is actually going to help us better predict
the weather, because you, like me, have realized that we're
quite shit at it right, We are really crap at

(32:16):
predicting the weather. Like remember that time in Auckland when
we were like it was a bit of rain and
Elton John's on tonight, Elton John, all the rain's going
to ruin the concert and then next minute houses are
flooded to their roofs and the ceilings are underwater. And
so remember that. I'm just hoping that maybe this computer
is going to kind of get around that and make
it a little bit better. Also, No, that's far too selfish,

(32:39):
shall I Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, I might.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
I'm trying to decide whether I'm trying to decide whether
we stay in Auckland for the start of the school holidays,
taking the week with the kids. Do we stay in
Auckland hope like hell for good weather and like heat
the pool up to try to swim? Do we do that?
Or do we just cut our losses and go to
Wellington and freeze. I'll ask them if their super computer
can answer that question for me.

Speaker 19 (33:00):
US Talks at B.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
The only drive show you can try the truck to
ask the questions. I get the answers, find the fag sack.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
And give the analysis.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
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the power of satellite mobile news dogs B Afternoon.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
The government is loosening liquor licensing rules. Only locals will
now be able to object and ministers will be able
to invene with intervene without legislation for major televised events.
Nicole McKee is the Associate Justice ministan with US. Now Hey, Nicole,
good afternoon, Heather. Where you getting objections from outside the
local area. Yes, we were.

Speaker 18 (33:55):
In fact, I had one bar owner that told me
he received an objection that came from the United Kingdom,
so it was more than just being outside of their
local territorial authority areas.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Why is anyone in the UK interested?

Speaker 18 (34:08):
Yeah, that's a really good question, and I think that's
why we need to look to limit who can object.
We want to make sure that the serious concerns are
able to be voiced by those within the community, but
it should be those within the territorial authorities which make
the decisions that should be able to make those objections.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Is it someone who is anti liquor? Is that kind
of thing?

Speaker 18 (34:30):
Well, I never got down to who it was. I
was more gobsmacked that it came from overseas.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah. What about the police approach to it, because a
lot of the problems have been caused by the fact
that the police are really keen to shut the stuff down.

Speaker 18 (34:43):
Yeah, and I can understand why they're really keen to
shut some stuff down, But I've had to find a
balance here and I thought it was really important to
do so. The majority of New Zealanders that drink drink responsibly,
and I want to make sure that they have the
opportunity to do that. We want to regrow our sector,
So it means also having tourism, having people been able
to go out there and enjoy a night out. And

(35:06):
while we have some harm stop people from getting out
there and socializing, we need some good stories on the news.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, totally. Well why the ministerial intervention for major televised events.

Speaker 18 (35:18):
Well, this really is so that we can go out
there and celebrate good things like Rugby World Cup without
having to do a legislative change or ordering council every
single time. So we're basically saying, if there's a big
event like the Rugby World Karpa, something that's happening that's
outside of our time zones, the pubs can open. Have
seen success with that in the past, and we're basically

(35:39):
saying ministers can do that again in the future without
having to go through the Ordering Council and cabinet process
to make it happen.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
And one of the other things that you're doing is
the online verification of age. What are you changing here.

Speaker 18 (35:51):
Yes, we're making sure that the digital identity credentials can
be used as evidence of age documents. Once we get
that framework up and running. So we're future proofing the
way that we can check ID into the future. And
this means that deliveries of alcohol at home, those rapid deliveries,
for example, can be easily verified and checked upon when

(36:13):
somebody places in order.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Is this the same kind of verification that you'd be
able to use for social media?

Speaker 18 (36:19):
It may be, But in saying that, Heather, I we
know that a party are not in agreement with the
restrictions on social media, and I know you are. Our
concern is how do you enforce it? But let's not
say no to everything. Let's see what this framework can
develop and whether or not it can be utilized internationally
as well.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Good stuff, Hey, Nicole, thanks so much, Nicole McKey, Associate
Justice Minister.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Ever do for see Ellen thankfually.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
When Nichola will is a supermarket shakeup will make a
difference in your weekly shop. Yesterday, of course, she announced
a raft of reforms to make it easy for new
supermarket players to open and expand across the country, and
it was clearly aimed at Costco. Patrick Noon is the
former managing director of Costco and New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (36:58):
Hi Patrick, Hi, how are you very well?

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Thank you now Costco was already planning expansion outside of Auckland.
So has this actually changed anything, you.

Speaker 6 (37:08):
Know, I'm not aware of the costco current plans. I've
been retired for two years now, but I can comment on.
Before I did retire, Costco was really interested in New
Zealand market. It's a great market. There is a lack
of competition there and Costco can bring goods and services
to the market, add some really really good savings to
our members there and a case in point, you know,

(37:30):
the West Auckland store. In that same precint we had
pack and save, we had war wors across the street,
and we are able to operate and be extremely competitive
to the local market. So yes, New Zealand market is
a very attractive proposition for any food retailer. I would
think around the world, why.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Hasn't Costco If Costco loves it so much, why haven't
they actually expanded thus far? Because they had the Wellington
plans and they had the what appears to have been
the Roliston plans and nothing's actually open.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
Well again, I'll just couch it and saying I'm not
aware of the current plans. They'll be sort of out
of touch with the group there. But at the time,
you know, steek up a new country is a very
expensive proposition. It takes a lot of infrastructure in terms
of the buying side of it. In terms of at
that time, the cost of building in Auckland was very expensive.

(38:19):
The cost of dealing with the Auckland Council added layers
of cost to the whole project. So it's a very
expensive cost. So you have to have a return on
your investment. So one costo at that time was sort
of a test to see how it all worked out.
The last thing. The other thing about New Zealand is
you're an island or two islands, and getting inventory from

(38:40):
North America, from Asia and from the Australian market took
a lot of coordination, so that that also presents some
issues as well being in stock all the time.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Do you think that it's the game change of Costco?
Is the game changer that the country is looking for?

Speaker 6 (38:54):
Oh? I think so. I think I think Costco just
from the merchandising perspective and now that they're working out
the kinks we had initially, I think Costco can bring
a lot of value to the market for the New
Zealand consumers. Absolutely, we're proving that already and in fact
that hasn't changed this day we open.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Patrick, thank you for your time. Patrick Noon, former Costco
Managing Director of New Zealand five fourteene. Even better than
I thought when I was telling you yesterday that the
Women's that's being reported that the Women's Ministry and the
Pacific People's Ministry and the pair the Ministry for Disabled
People all going to be rolled into bigger ministry, sucked
up by somebody else and basically sucked up into non existence.

(39:32):
Even better us than that. Apparently it's much bigger what
is being considered. Apparently there is potential for a significant consolidation.
It was discussed during a Crown Entity Board chairperson meeting
with the Public Service Commissioner Sir Brian Roach this month,
and what was discussed was that a bunch of a
bunch of government departments may in fact merge. There are

(39:54):
forty public servants, service departments and departmental agencies at the moment,
and that that number could reduce to twenty. How good
is that? Basically, what you want to do right now
is go find a list of government departments and agencies
printed off and then start scratching the ones that you
think don't really matter, they're going to be sucked up
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Speaker 2 (41:09):
Heather Duplessy Allen.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
Seventeen past five. Now the country's largest supercomputer is officially
online and we're using it to predict the weather. Earth
Sciences in z which was formerly KNIEWA, has acquired the
new tech for a cool thirty five million dollars. Jess
Robertson is the chief Science Scientist for Advanced Technology at
Earth Sciences, New Zealand, and it is with us.

Speaker 14 (41:29):
Now, Hey, Jess, good a, Heather, how are you doing well?

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Now?

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Is the supercomputer going to make our weather prediction more accurate?

Speaker 14 (41:37):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (41:37):
Look, we absolutely hope.

Speaker 24 (41:38):
So.

Speaker 23 (41:38):
I mean it's an absolute beast, this thing that's sixty
eight thousand cores. It'll do more calculations in a day
than you could do in thirty million years. And that
means we're going to be able to run a higher
resolution forecasts quicker and get them out to people sooner.
So really looking forward to what it can do.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
So if we had had this tech back in twenty
twenty three, could we have better plan for cyclone Gabriel
or the Auckland floods.

Speaker 23 (42:02):
Yeah, look, I mean, this is certainly one of the
big questions. It's really really hard to predict these really
extreme events when they roll through. One of the things
that we want to be able to do with the
new supercomputer is run ultra high resolution forecast. So, for example,
over Auckland, we have a three hundred meter resolution forecast
at super high resolution. Team New Zealand used that to

(42:22):
win the America's Cup. We want to be able to
roll those out to other areas when we have events
like Cyclone Gabriel rolling in so that we can better
prepare people on the ground for what's coming down the pikat.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
So do we have enough? I mean, one of the
things with these really big computers in AI and stuff
like that is the lack of energy or the need
for energy. Have we got enough energy for this thing?

Speaker 23 (42:43):
We do, actually, and we've been really pleased with how
much energy it has actually used. It's ended up using
about thirty percent less energy than we thought it was
going to. We've got this, We've got this hosted up
here with our partners CDC here in Auckland. It's run
on one hundred percent renewed energy. So that's well, the
energy is kind of a big cost of running one

(43:05):
of these machines. We've sort of made it as planet
friendly as possible.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Basically, Jess, do you live in Auckland or Wellington?

Speaker 23 (43:12):
I actually live in christ Church at the moment.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Do you know anything about what happens seasonally? I want
to know whether it's worth staying in Auckland for the
first week of the school holidays in late September to
see if I would I be able.

Speaker 23 (43:23):
To swim m I being over well, I think you
have to go and have a look at our five
week forecast, which one of our yeah we do as
an a there's an AI five week forecast. It's called
me We're thirty five because we haven't done the rebrand yet,
but eventually we'll update the acronym and that gives you
sort of roughly roughly five weeks out. I think three
weeks out for that kind of start of September is

(43:45):
looking wet for the North Island. We were thinking it's
probably going to be wet for the All Blacks game
and Wellington. Unfortunately. The really really big benefit though as
a christ Church person is we're looking at a massive
dump of snow down in Southern Alps tonight, So unfortunately
I'll be stuck in Wellington tomorrow. But if I was
back home in christ to Hey.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
Thanks for that. That's actually really useful to know that
you've got a five week forecast. Jess robertson, Earth Scientist
for Advanced Technology at Earth Sciences, New Zealand formerly known
as neewhere. You're gonna have to get used to it.
The days of newer are gone. Got some interesting marriage oh,
by the way, Henry Rickins on the text that Guam,
with the population of one hundred and thirty thousand people,
has got two costcos we've only got one, so step

(44:23):
it up. Costco. Some interesting marriage data out today. The
number of couples getting married or entering into civil unions
is down. Now that weren't really surprising because there are
other options available Now, you know, you don't have to
get married, like there isn't the societal pressure to get married.
You can show your commitment in other ways, like getting
matching tattoos or whatever. Back in the nineties, twenty one
thousand people on average got married every year. It's now

(44:45):
down to eighteen thousand people. That's a fall of fourteen percent.
But The other reason that that people aren't getting married
at the same rate is because is because fewer people
get remarried. So back in the nineties, and I'm looking
at you, back in the nineties, when you knocked off
the first wife, not like killed her, but I mean
like when that one finished, you were like, oh what

(45:06):
am I going to do with my life? And you
found the second wife, and then you know, if you
were if you were really wild, you'd be onto yet
fourth or you know, doing a Liz Taylor. Nowadays, it
doesn't happen as much. Back in the nineties, thirty five
percent of marriages were remarriages. It's now down to Winny
a quarter of them ma remarriages. You know, I don't
know why do you think that is? Why do you

(45:28):
think that is? Guys? Do you know why? Because ladies
have got our own money now we don't need you
as much. And then we're like, is it worth it?
On balance? Like on balance, I can live by myself
have a happy life, or I can get married again.
Hmm did it one time? Found out how it went?
That's what's going on here, isn't it? Isn't it though?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Five twenty two, cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's Heather duf cy Ellen drive with one New Zealand
coverage like no one else news talks.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
They'd be Heather, it's Jase from Queenstown. You can't make
this up. But my old man's been married nine times
back in America, nine wives, five twenty five. Now, this
is not going to shock you at all. But Labour
has criticized Nichola Willis's supermarket announcement yesterday. Barbara Edmonds is
the one doing the criticism. She said the fast track regime,

(46:20):
while sensible, would not make any immediate difference for struggling
New Zealanders. Edmonds, however, did not offer up any alternative
suggestions of her own, because of course she didn't. Now look,
let's cut the cynicism. I mean, it's been fair to
be cynical up to this point because Nichola Willis has
actually done a lot of talking without any delivering. But
this was actually a good announcement. If it takes a

(46:41):
supermarket four years to open up from go to woe,
you know that there's too much red tape. Cutting the
red tape is a no brainer. It's not going to
open up a supermarket tomorrow Shaw. But if a supermarket
chain does see value in coming to New Zealand, which
is a crucial part of the equation, it will help.
It's certainly much more helpful than nonsense like a grocery commission,
which if I remember correctly, was set up by labor,

(47:02):
or a grocery code of Conduct, which if I remember correctly,
was set up by labor. Now what would Barbara rather have,
because it seems like the step up from this is
supermarkets being broken up, either through force, devestment or structural separation.
That is so nutty that even the nuttiest government that
we've had for ages, which for the avoidance of doubt
was obviously the Arduran government, even they did not do it.

(47:24):
They were nutty enough to do the oil and Gas band,
but still not nutty enough to do this, because it
would have scared international investors off New Zealand so badly
that you'd wonder if we would ever have been able
to get them back. To be honest with you, I
worry that all of the chat that we've already had
around regulating and punishing supermarkets may have already started to
prevent these guys from wanting to come in here. Who knows.

(47:45):
Let's see how it plays out. But short of doing
something crazy like breaking up these businesses, what we got
yesterday I think was sensible and welcome and not to
be criticized unless you've got a better idea Togever do.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
For ce, Ellen, we need to.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
Talk about Graymouth's district council. They've been laughing at rates.

Speaker 9 (48:04):
Now.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
I don't have the time to play you the audio
right now, so I'm going to play you the audio
in a minute when we can properly, properly sit down
and and and just really appreciate the laughing that they've done.
And you can make your judgment as to whether it was,
as they say, nervous laughter or just outright hahaha. You're
getting stung with the rates bill. You decide for yourself.
But next up, let's have a chat to the toting

(48:26):
a business association about that Port Warf extension being stopped
in the courts yesterday.

Speaker 7 (48:32):
News is next, hard questions, strong opinion, Heather Duplicy Ellen
Drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite
mobile news dogs'd be.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Where you going.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Half been home Landford. Yes, actually it would appear done
kind of well which does really force me to reassess
whether I want to see them sold off or not.
We're gonna have a chat to them after six. Huddle
is standing by. I've got a question for you really quickly.
What age do you think you are going to live to?

(49:24):
So at what age do you think you're going to die?
Think about that. I'm going to come back to him.
It's a bit grim, I know, but I'm going to
come back to that shortly. Right now. It is twenty
five away from six now. As I told you yesterday,
the Port of Todunger has had another snag in its
efforts to extend the wolf at Sulfur Point. The port
has been trying to get this consented for years. It's
had to fight objections from local EWE and the Environment Court,

(49:45):
made an application to be fast tracked, but then found
out that the application is on hold after a judicial review.
Matt Cowley is the CEO of Todunger Business Chamber and
with us Hey Matt Hey, Heather, I imagine this is
hugely disappointing.

Speaker 9 (49:59):
Look, it is a very cool, calm and collected guys
you would expect from many publicly listed company, but for
them to issue such a statement shows the level of
frustration out there.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Yeah, because what are they frustrated by the fact that
they'd left a couple of words out of the application
and as a result of that, the judicial review scrupped it.

Speaker 9 (50:16):
Yeah, you wouldn't believe it. They managed to get inside
schedule two of the legislation, they missed out a few words.
So the High Foot judge obviously said, nah, it doesn't
flit the scope. And it's amazing how a little insignificant
sand during has gotten the way millions of dollars coming
into our economy.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Does the E we have edie? Is there any merits
to the ewi's objections here?

Speaker 9 (50:40):
Oh, I don't know the ewe's case that much. But
they're in mitigation. So even the Environment Court has said
that the environmental impacts are negligible long term, so the
mitigation is kind of what's holding it up, which of
course can happen while building is happening in underway. It's
been five years and there is a lot of frustration

(51:02):
up there, particularly missing cargo and shipping lines to the Americas,
which is obviously a big part of me and Brown's
talk around lining up with China's belt and Road initiative.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
What does it mean to get this, to get this
wolf done, the extension done. What would it mean for business?

Speaker 9 (51:21):
It will obviously have a long term impact in terms
of greater capacity because soon there's going to be bottlenecks
and the last thing we need is supply chain bottlenecks,
you know, with ships either being delayed or staying left
out at sea just waiting for their anchorage to come in.
And it's just that time delays which really impact and

(51:44):
having to turn ships away because the capacity is a
big no no, not what we need for this economy.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
No jeez, not at all. Now we are waiting. Obviously
they were supposed to have the fast track hearing on
the first of September. Do we have yet any idea
when it will once they've managed to refile the paperwork
when we're looking at for that.

Speaker 9 (52:03):
Ideally the government would amend the legislation immediately to clear
this up so they don't need to go through judicial review.
That that's the ultimate bolve.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Okay, Well, here's hoping, Matt. Thank you very much, Matt
Cowley toting a Business Chamber of CEO. Now here we go. Okay,
have a listen to this. This is the Graymouth District
councilors laughing at the fact that their rate payers across
about rates rises. So what happened is they lumped their
rate payers with a thirteen percent thirteen percent rates rise,
which which you know a few years ago would have
seemed outrageous and now apparently it's just what we do.

(52:35):
And they had a meeting on Monday to discuss it
and one counselor asked if there had been any pushback,
but it was one of those rate increase and this
was how they responded, Yes, thirteen percent lolls. One of
the councilors, Kate Kennedy, had said, look, sorry, it was

(52:56):
nervous laughter.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Was it nervous laughter?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, was it?

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Though? Twenty one away from six.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty find your
one of a kind on the.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
Huddle with me this evening. We have two counselors, Morris
Williamson from Auckland Council and Alie Jones from somewhere in
christ Church something. What are you, Alie? I don't really
know anything board.

Speaker 21 (53:20):
I'm good.

Speaker 11 (53:21):
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Yeah, this's like basically the same thing. Well, Okay, Morris,
was it nervous laughter? Was it?

Speaker 14 (53:28):
No?

Speaker 25 (53:28):
No?

Speaker 26 (53:29):
And look, quite frankly, any rate rise of that sort
of magnitude is embarrassing for them, and they should have
because here we've got an Uckham, we've got a five
point eight. People get fired point that there's a lot
up in the fifteens and the twenties, because at either
end of an average there's eiland some of winners and losers.

(53:49):
And I just feel for some of those poor sods,
you know, they're on fixed income. Some people they live
in a place that where it just happens that they
are on the higher end of it, a struggling to
pay already, and we got unsuited them.

Speaker 27 (54:00):
So I sit there every day pleading with.

Speaker 26 (54:02):
Counselors to say, let's polease, not just keep spending money
that just gets adding a bill onto ratepayers. And at
five point foot still high, thirteen's disgraceful.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Yeah, totally, Ali, Did that sound nervous to you?

Speaker 6 (54:18):
Do?

Speaker 13 (54:18):
You know?

Speaker 21 (54:18):
I think the mayor actually said, or what someone said,
They were not laughing about rate payers.

Speaker 11 (54:23):
It was the irony of being asked if they'd been
pushed back over the rates.

Speaker 21 (54:26):
But the optics were awful, And I think that's the point.
If I was in a room with a whole lot
of colleagues and someone said, so, did you get pushed
back on thirteen point nine percent, I'd go, are you kidding?
But I wouldn't do that in a public meeting, So,
you know, I think it's the context of it, and
they were silly to think that they could do that.

Speaker 11 (54:46):
In a public meeting.

Speaker 21 (54:47):
It's a very somber, as Morris said, it's a very serious,
important issue. So I think it's about appropriate appropriateness, and
it wasn't appropriate.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Do you know what that? What it felt to me
like was if you really understood the for stating impact
that these rate increases have on some people's lives and
the decisions that have to make, like potentially even selling
their house, you would have no reason to even nervously last,
like it would be far too grim to even crack
a smile. And the fact that they were able to
suggest to me they maybe don't realize, which is what

(55:17):
I've always suspected, don't realize the impact of what they're doing.

Speaker 21 (55:20):
No, I think it's I think that's not right, Heather.
I think it was the context. It was the irony
of being asked if they've been pushed back. You know,
you say to someone, I'm trying to think of an
example that I might use.

Speaker 11 (55:32):
I don't know. I can't think.

Speaker 21 (55:34):
So you're getting.

Speaker 11 (55:34):
Old house your memory. It's really terrible, you know.

Speaker 21 (55:38):
I mean that's a bad example. Yeah. So I don't
think it's that they're out of touch, but you certainly
don't do that in the public arena. And look, but
I do think counselors are out of touch. We need
a cat's rate. That's what I want in christ Church,
and I think that's what we should be delivering.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
A raidscap.

Speaker 14 (55:53):
Yeah, I look, Heather.

Speaker 26 (55:54):
All I can tell you is I get in calls
from people in tears and saying we've lived here, like
in how I go. But just as they get a
lovely view of Harbor, I mean, they're on the fix.
They're on their superannuation and maybe a bit more and
that's it, and they're struggling like steak to keep in
the house they've been in. And I've had a couple
of them in tear saying we're just going to have
to sell because of what you guys keep putting.

Speaker 27 (56:17):
Your rates every year every year it goes.

Speaker 14 (56:19):
Up way more than inflation.

Speaker 27 (56:20):
There's a few graphs.

Speaker 14 (56:23):
We're more than double whatever wage.

Speaker 26 (56:25):
Increases have been over the years and whatever the infatient,
I only have been priced out of house and home.
And we've got to stop doing it because we're regularly
cutting services but increasing what we're charging for it. There's
going to be a big, big bust up.

Speaker 14 (56:41):
You better be ready for this on your radio show
within the.

Speaker 27 (56:43):
Next few years, because we've got people open.

Speaker 26 (56:45):
Counsel who want to move to fortnightly rubbish collection and
some people who say to me, my bins are fall
every week when I put them out same amount, and yes, well,
I mean it's just madness. And so I really feel
for the poor ratepayers of the city, and I keep
saying at those meetings, let's stop spending money.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
They's just stop spending money on things like two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars for the fairy lights at Silo Park.

Speaker 21 (57:10):
Oh, I haven't got the numbers around the table, Morris.
What's your table made up of?

Speaker 14 (57:14):
That's your problem, that is all.

Speaker 26 (57:16):
It's the prolem and local government see in central by
thirty years off you just when you're a minister and
you put paper together and you get it done at cabinet.
You don't even worry about it because the votes are
done down in the House and you know you've got
the whips and the whips carry it was done. But
you bring something to the council on any one day.
We've had a gardening body meeting all day to day.

Speaker 27 (57:34):
You actually have no idea where the votes will form.

Speaker 14 (57:37):
You have no idea.

Speaker 26 (57:38):
And on many occasions I think, oh, this will just
get absolutely slammed, don't finished, and it gets through and
then there's.

Speaker 27 (57:44):
Others other this is innsible. Stuff gets bold and I
keeps Jesus I can't read it.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Yeah, okay, listen, We're just going to take a quick
break because Morris, your line is dodgy as all hell.
And we'll come back shortly sixteen away from six.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
The huddle with new Zeale Southby's International Realty's a global
leader in luxury real estate.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Right, you're back with Morris Williamson and Allie Jones. Allie,
what do you make of the government loosening the liquor
licensing rules?

Speaker 21 (58:12):
I think it flies in the face of what a
lot of people are saying around local alcohol policy.

Speaker 11 (58:17):
Certainly in christ.

Speaker 21 (58:18):
Church we've managed to get one through after not having
much success the last time we tried it. I didn't
have a problem with liquor stores closing a little earlier,
and there seems to be a lack of consistency over
it as well around the country, which I think is confusing.
But yeah, I would I'd think it is opening us.

Speaker 11 (58:36):
Up to more harm from alcohol abuse. To be honest,
I mean, I.

Speaker 21 (58:39):
Think you know you although we have to sort out.

Speaker 11 (58:41):
The delivery, the home delivery of alcohol as.

Speaker 21 (58:43):
Well, there's no point in closing alcohol stores down in
supermarkets and other places if you can pick the phone
up in order until God knows when in the morning.

Speaker 26 (58:52):
Morris Well, I lived in California and you had big
billboards all up and down the road offering uber each
delivering you your wacky backy. So I thought that was
quite I thought that was quite interesting. Look, I would
have thought there were plenty of outlets for alcohol and
open enough, as it is the idea that somehow if
you're at three o'clock in the morning on a Wednesday,

(59:14):
stuck somewhere and you can't buy yourself a drink. Well,
so what I mean I'm reasonably liberal on all these things,
and it's not the biggest I wouldn't have thought it
was the biggest thing on the government's radar. I think
they've got a lot more on their plate to be
sorting out now. I just think there's quite a lot
of harm from alcohol. Alcohol, in my views, like a toyota.
If you use it properly, it's good for you. You
misuse it and it's really bad what it can descrive you.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
No, No, fair enough, Hey, listen, tell me Morris. We
had the guys from at On yesterday and they were saying,
to spend on the temporary traffic management and the roe
Cones is fair because it's only five percent of the
capital expenditure. Now you're on the board. Is five percent fair?

Speaker 26 (59:51):
I think that's a dreadful answer to say that. That's
sixty three million, and I think it worked out it's
sort of what was it, seventeen thousand dollars a day
or something. I think if you might divide that by
the three sixty five and it's just a port one
hundred and seventy one thousand a day, that is one
hundred and seventy one thousand a day.

Speaker 14 (01:00:07):
Look in the end, We've tried. The Mayor's tried.

Speaker 26 (01:00:09):
He's really tried to say to them right from the outset,
there's a new regime in town because the National Party
came in and put a new policy statement on temper
traffic management, which is a risk based system. When I
heard that interview last night, I thought to myself, Yeah,
there are contracts in place, so we really can't do
anything about it. Well, if you had a commercial bone
in your body, you'd go straight to those big contracts

(01:00:30):
you've got and say to those people we'd like to renegotiate,
are going to actually make it less onerous for you,
So dropping how much you have to do, and we'll
try and have the amount that we can save you
take fifty percent. You could have drop back to the
new risk based system which was introduced by nz TA,
which is the leader. That's the government's one. We should

(01:00:50):
be following the government. We should be having all of
the contracts new as of now. Not I mean halfway
through twenty twenty seven is just nonsense. But you could
also do some the big contracts that are in place
and say to the big companies, here we go, we'll
share in the in the largess out of this, you
can get about three million. Yeah, split savings, and we'll
go to that new regime as of next week.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Yes, yeah, tar enough.

Speaker 11 (01:01:12):
Do you like the idea of that, Alley, Yeah, I
do like the idea of that.

Speaker 21 (01:01:16):
But I think going back to what you were saying before, Heather,
about you know, why do we keep spending this money?
Why do rates keep going up? And I think it's
I think it's a culture. I think it's a lack
of understanding that every dollar counts. I mean, this is
how we run our homes, how we run our businesses,
and within reason, it shouldn't be any different in government.
But for eighty to say that sixty three million dollars

(01:01:37):
isn't much considering they've got a one point two billion
dollar infrastructure program to me encapsulates exactly what the problem
is here. This is like boiling a.

Speaker 11 (01:01:47):
Frog in hot water, you know, it's it.

Speaker 21 (01:01:49):
Happens over years, over years, over years, and then you
get to point you go, how the hell did we
get here? Oh, it was only a point zero two
percent of the rates, So, you know, I think that
kind of attitude has got to go, because that's why
we're in the shop that we're in totally Alie's.

Speaker 26 (01:02:04):
Ali's absolutely correct. But let me tell you one other
thing is that it's not their money, and that's what
annoys me about it. You see, if you were in,
if it was your money and you were deciding whether
you would do it or not, you'd take a totally
different attitude to what you were doing. And I was
on the board of a private company here in Auckland
that was very successful, and everything was about should we

(01:02:25):
need to spend this money? Why are we not getting
that now? Safety is one of those issues where you've
got to get it clearing your head. It always has
to be safety at reasonable cost, not safety at any cost,
because if you make it any cost, you could turn
the speed limit to five kilometers an hour for every
vehicle in New Zealand, have a man walking in front
of it with a red flag, sorry, a person walking

(01:02:45):
in front of it with a red flag, and we'd
have no one die on the roads, but we'd be
bankrupt within a week.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Yeah too. Right now, listen, Alie, can I just ask
you really quickly do you have any theory as to
why it is that remarriages are down since the nineties?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Was just the.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
No, you're a woman. You'll have a theory on this.

Speaker 11 (01:03:04):
So marriage.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
So in the nineties when when they looked at the
number of marriages happening across the country, thirty three percent
were people getting remarried, like you know, the first marriage
didn't work or the second and they were on their third.
Now it's only a quarter. And my theory is is
because as women we don't need the men anymore, Like
financially we're dependent so independent, so we're tossing it up.
We're going it's just too hard. Had one. Yeah, I

(01:03:29):
think you're right.

Speaker 11 (01:03:30):
Now, I think you're right.

Speaker 18 (01:03:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:03:32):
I researched the documentary number of years ago called Married
Again and Again, and we found a woman who'd been
married eight times and she'd be.

Speaker 11 (01:03:38):
Married for two guys twice than that.

Speaker 14 (01:03:40):
So she was a cheam.

Speaker 21 (01:03:41):
But not the reason.

Speaker 11 (01:03:43):
Yeah, no, it wasn't.

Speaker 21 (01:03:43):
No, I think you're right, And I think the reason
is too that people have decided that they can live,
you know, much more frugally.

Speaker 11 (01:03:50):
That's that's how I feel.

Speaker 21 (01:03:51):
I'd live in a bus if.

Speaker 11 (01:03:51):
It meant that you didn't have to marry again.

Speaker 26 (01:03:53):
Okay, God one of the one of the lovely Old
sayings I used to remember being said, is that a
woman who remarries doesn't deserve to have lost her first husband.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Guys, it's lovely to chat to the pair of you. Honestly,
so many of us are getting in big trouble. Later on,
Morris Williams and Allie Jones Our Huddle.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
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Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
Heather, women don't need to get remarried because they took
everything they need from the first husband. Thank you, Keith,
what about this one? Hang on to take hang on,
I've gotta find a view, absolutely, Heather, the remarriage. I'm
still married, but I told my husband if he dies,
there's no way I'm going back for round two. And
if he ever cheats, that's my get out of jail. Freak.

(01:04:41):
I walk past this bookshop non Ponsonby Road and there's
a card outside that said it says something like when
I was young, I always wanted to get married at
twenty two. Everybody laugh with me and it just tickles
me every single time. I will pass anyway, epsos. I
asked you earlier, at what age do you think you're
gonna die. Someone says seventy five. Someone says, I'm seventy

(01:05:03):
seven at the moment, but I think I'm going to
live until one hundred and ten. Why not exactly, Mike?

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Why not?

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Well, the reason I was asking you that is because
IPSOS has actually done a study of what we think
they do. They do these interesting little studies from time
to time, and most people think that they're going to
live to the age of eighty one. The gen x's
they are the people who are kind of like forties
and fifties at the moment. Gen X is reckon they're
going to go to eighty three. Baby Boomers reckon, they're
going to make it to eighty five. The average is

(01:05:28):
eighty one. Most people think. They also ask like, what
do you think is old? And the young ones these
are the youngest ones in the workforce at the moments,
they'll be in their twenties. Gen zs they think that
when you hit sixty one year old, just the honey,
you're in for a shock when you hit sixty one.
Baby boomers think that it's that you're old. When you
hit seventy two. The average is sixty six. So if

(01:05:50):
the average of us. If on average we think we're
going to live to eighty one, and if on average
we think that's sixty six is old, they're on average
we think that we're going to be spending fifteen years
in old age. Apparently the prime of life is considered
to be twenty eight to thirty five. Now I would
I would push back on that. I don't reckon that's

(01:06:11):
the prime of your life at all. I reckon the
prime of your life is sort of like, well, I mean,
I don't think I've come to the end of the
prime of my life. My knees do hurt a little bit.
I'll be honest with you, especially in the mornings when
I get up. It's hard, isn't it. I don't come
through that. What's that very convincing?

Speaker 8 (01:06:29):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
I don't think that I'm through the prime of my life.
But I reckon the prime of your life starts about
thirty five when you're actually making proper money. Before that,
it's just it's just a grind, isn't it anyway? Land
Corps who are actually making proper money with us. Next
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Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
Evening coming up in the next hour. The luxury sector
is having a bit of a tough time. Sam Dickie
will explain Jamie mckaias with US shortly and Ender Brady
does the UK for US. Seven past six now huge
turnaround for Land Corp, reporting a net profit after tax
of one hundred and twenty million dollars for the year.
That is up from a twenty six million dollar net
loss last year. This means the business is going to
pay the government a dividend of fifteen million dollars. Mark

(01:07:36):
Lesley's the chief executive and with.

Speaker 25 (01:07:38):
US Hi Mark Evening here you be with you now.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
You sound as thrilled as I think that you are.

Speaker 25 (01:07:46):
I am, and it's great to post the result, but
equally I'm thrilled for all of our people as well,
because there's a lot of people right through the organization
who work hard every day and many who do the
mahia on the farms every day. It's nice to be
able to acknowledge the hard work turning up and producing
some fantastic results.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
What's the secret to the turnaround? How do you do this?

Speaker 25 (01:08:07):
I think it's it is something that we as a
team have been working on over the last few years.
It's it's a very new look leadership group with some
few white heads in there as well, and just really
going back to some real good basics of farming and
farm management. So whether it's our livestock farms and just
start focusing on the core of lending percentages and things
like that, or our dairy units and focusing on cows

(01:08:30):
and condition and the likes. We've just really gone back
to those basics to get the core fundamentals right. And
the nice part of it that's gone with it is
actually getting some really good commodity prices, so that's that's
helped as part of that as well. And I think
you're saying where I suppose a we're a good signal
of where the agriculture sector is at at the moment
and in a pretty good heart.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
What have you ditched?

Speaker 25 (01:08:51):
We We've had We've we've had to make some few
tough calls, so we've we've Palmer Foods, which was our
venture into selling products beyond the farm gate. We had
a tough call on that about eighteen months and closed
some of that down. We've consolidated some leadership roles and
taken them some overheads out. There was a number of
when I started, there was probably one hundred plus little
trials right across the farm, across all of our farms,

(01:09:13):
and they were each in their own right, we're interesting,
but they were probably an element of distraction as well.
So we've simplified and stripped some of those things back
to then allow us us to focus on those core
things that farmers need to do every day.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
What kind of stuff was Palmu Food selling?

Speaker 25 (01:09:28):
So Palmu Foods were selling milk powder, bulk milk powder
out into the international market. So yeah, that was at
a time I suppose in the past where the business
was looking to diversify its incomes trains and so that
was established and hey, you end up competing with some
of the very large processes out of New Zealand. And

(01:09:49):
with call was we made the call that that wasn't
our core business and go back to where we can
fundamentally make a different And.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
What about these trials? What was the most ambitious of
the trials.

Speaker 25 (01:09:58):
There was a number of and there was technology trials
looking at condition scoring cows and the likes, and many
of them will have their day and they will come
to fruition. So but we've gone back and said, hey,
let's look at those. We don't need to be at
the bleeding edge of some of those technologies. We've continued
some of the areas with jets and dairy beef and
where we believe we've got some real skills. So we're

(01:10:21):
focused back on those because they will drive our core performance.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Yeah, are you still doing the deer milking?

Speaker 25 (01:10:27):
Yep, we are still looking at it. Well, we're still
doubt selling deer products as we speak, and we've got
really strong consumer demand coming out of Southeast Asia. It's
a very very small part of our business, so my
focus is on the bigger part. But we've kept that going.
It's a nice compliment to our large dear business. We
have a very large year business across the rest of
the network.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
So do you reckon you've put the brakes by delivering
a result like this and then also talking about you know,
maybe even increasing it through to twenty thirty and the
next five years. Do you reckon You've put the Brakes
on the government selling off bits of you.

Speaker 25 (01:10:58):
I've always been pretty clear on that that's a decision
for the government.

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Of the day.

Speaker 25 (01:11:02):
But also the bit I've also see it does have
some complexities with it as well. There is a number
of those farms that are still subject to treaty sentiments settlements.
Is a number that a lease, there's a number of it.
They've got first right of refusal, so that that has
some complexity. That's a decision for the government of the day.
The bit I can keep doing is what we've just
been talking about, is delivering some fantastic results and paying

(01:11:22):
playing a dividend back to the crown.

Speaker 4 (01:11:23):
Yeah, good stuff, Mark, keep it up. Thank you. Mark Leslee,
Chief executive of Land Corp. Isn't it amazing? Though, I mean,
I hate to be the person who says this on
a good day, but I'm going to say it. Isn't
it amazing that the government had to come in and
be like, hey, can you do your job properly and
then went oh yeah, okay, fine, we'll do our job
properly and then they shut down all the nonsense. Isn't
that wonderful? That's all It took twelve past.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Six, Heather, do for see Ellen here the why are.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
You holidaying in the school holidays when you don't have
school aged? Oh, I've got a lot of those texts. Actually,
hither your kids are too young to be worried by
school holidays. No, here's the thing. One of them goes
to kindy. So the kindy, I don't know if you
know this, but the candy it's not daycare. It's not daycare,
it's kindy and KINDI runs on school hours, didn't I?
So it runs eight thirty five thirty h school term,
doesn't that? So I have school holidays already and I

(01:12:08):
made that decision. I'm already into it. I don't even
have to wait till till the kids are five to
be like, we have school holidays. And this is anyway,
this brings me to the thing that I need to
talk to you about, which was when he was on
before Jess said to us, this is Jess from Niewer.
Jess said, if you want to know what's happening in
September when the school holidays is going on, you need
to dig up the five week forecast. It's called knee
with thirty five. Now, please tell me if you're in

(01:12:31):
the no if I'm doing something wrong here, because I
cannot understand this. This is very very ninety ninety seven.
But I've gone and found the KNEE with thirty five
and it's a data request form. Nee with thirty five
Data request form. Please complete the form below to request data.
I've could put my name in my organization, my address,
my phone number, my email address, and then I've got
to explain to them what i want, which is I

(01:12:53):
guess rainfall. I don't want the drought index, and I
don't want the soil moisture geographic areas, island scale or regional.
I just say Auckland one night, Auckland by my pool. Anyway,
Surely this is not it, Like, surely I'm not gonna
have to tie up these people. All I want to
know is what's happening in September. To decide this is ridiculous,

(01:13:15):
to decide if I want to stay by the pool
in Auckland or you know, just flag it and go
down to Wellington and see some people who we love
down there. If that is what? Yep, this surely this
is not it is this is it? If you know,
please let me know because I I'll fill out the
form if I have to, but I'm paying the tax
for the kneework, so THEYOWEMI. But that is very nineteen
ninety seven to get a forecast five weeks out, isn't it? Anyway?

(01:13:36):
Hit me up nine two ninet two let me know.
If this is what I'm dealing with it, I'll just
go ahead and do it. Thank you. Fourteen past six.

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Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
I've had the misfortune to watch another TV one hatch
job on Erica Stanford's education curriculum changes. Got you the
Actually we were watching it too, got you the details,
will run you through it shortly seventeen pass six, Jamie
McKay hosts the Countries with Me. Hello, Jamie good. So
how good is that big Land Corp turnaround?

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:15:02):
It's pretty good actually, And I'll give a bit of
credit to Mark Leslie. I've been one of their critics
in the past few years. I think he's moved on
from his predecessor, and I think they were a bit
guilty of being away, bit woken, going down non traditional
farming paths. He's got them back to their knitting. A
fifteen million dollar dividend to the Crown. That's okay, But

(01:15:25):
you know this is I guess it's an organization with
I think about one point six billion dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
Worth of property.

Speaker 24 (01:15:33):
The return on equity is interestingly seven point three percent,
but the return on asset value total asset values less
than one percent. But look, they can't sell it. They
can't sell it holes Bowldus because it would collapse the
landmarket and they wouldn't there wouldn't be buyers for it anyhow.
So I'm just pleased to see Land Corp getting back

(01:15:54):
to its knitting and getting good results. Now a lot
of you have to temper that, Heather, as Mark did
when he was chatting to you. You know, a good
portion of this is due to the upturn in commodity prices.
So they've had a big upswing, especially in their dairy
and their red meat. And I don't think he mentioned this,
but I was chatting to him on my show earlier

(01:16:14):
today and that what they're forecasting for the financial year
twenty six next year is even going to be better,
and that is off the back of obviously increased commodity
prices from their financial year twenty five. And like the
rest of us, who are in farming, probably considerably less
in terms of their interest payments. So you know they're
heading in the right direction. Pat on the back for

(01:16:35):
that one. They're still not out of the woods yet, though, Heather,
because there's the issue of what they do with Molesworth,
New Zealand's biggest farm. It's owned by dock Landcourt Palm,
who's only the least sea there. I think that lease
is only confirmed up until twenty twenty six. There's a
lot of concern down at Molesworth and marlbre there about

(01:16:57):
wilding pines or even the prospect of plant some of
that wonderful farm, and it is a very expensive farm
and pine trees for carbon farming. We had the sudden
resignation of the long standing manager, Jim Ward in July.

Speaker 6 (01:17:11):
So you know, a bit to come out on the wash.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
Yet why did.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
That manager actually quit? Was it really the pines?

Speaker 6 (01:17:18):
Look?

Speaker 24 (01:17:18):
I don't know, to be perfectly honest, he's been gagged,
are we? But I asked Mark about today on my
show and he sort of said, oh no, Well, we
change our managers quite regularly. Look, Jim Ward had been
there a long long time. From all accounts, he was
a popular manager. Successful manager. They had a great beef
operation I think something like six thousand beef cattle there.

(01:17:39):
I know that he was not happy with the way
the wilding pines were being managed. That may not even
be a land corp issue. That's probably a dock issue.
And I just apparently Mark said to me today on
the show Mark Leslie that Doc is going to make
an announcement about what's going to happen to Molesworth Station.
They haven't necessarily had the best track record on the

(01:18:00):
past Heather of taking over productive farm land. So I
just hope it doesn't go to rack and Ruin and
Gorse and Broom.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Yeah, hey, thank you very much, Jamie. As always Jamie McKay,
host of the Country six twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Heather do for c Ellen.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
So this is what TV and Z is reporting. A
couple of little headaches for Erica Stanford. The first one
is that eighty nine school principles from around the country
have sent Erica Stanford an open letter urging her to
immediately stop plans to replace NCEEA. Now I'm going to
come back to that. The second one is that the
High Court has agreed to hold an urgent hearing on
a claim from a tap from the teacher union n

(01:18:34):
ZEI against the government after the government decided to defund
resources teachers for Maori and literacy. The hearing's going to
take place next month.

Speaker 6 (01:18:43):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
On the eighty nine school principles who sent the open
letter to Erica Stanford, I thought about whether I needed
I read it this morning in newsroom, and I thought, well,
do we need to talk about it on the show,
And then I thought probably not, because I think even
though eighty nine is a reasonable it is a reasonable
group of principles, and it does suggest that perhaps when

(01:19:07):
I assumed originally that there had been like basically no
resistance at all to eric A. Stanford, it does suggest
that there is some resistance to what is going on,
that people are just kind of being quiet, and maybe
that being quiet because they are in the minority. So
I decided not to talk about it because I thought, well,
we'll see how it goes. I mean, people writing open

(01:19:28):
letters is basically is the thing to do. It's the
dujure thing, isn't it. And I'm grumpy I'm write an
app and letter Anyway. Why I was not convinced by
their argument is because it's it is largely made up
of what we would in the old days have called
low decile schools, which is the school that I went to.
So I'm telling you that so that when I have

(01:19:49):
a crack at the low decile school principles, you know
that I'm beating up my own kind, right, I'm not
punching down. So what the what the low decile school
principles are arguing? Essentially, I'm an like nutshelling. What I
read this morning was that they don't like first of all,
they don't want to lose the flexibility. But the second
thing is that it had worked really well for these
kids because these kids have managed to achieve. Well, yeah,

(01:20:11):
these kids in low desc our schools have managed to
achieve because you lowered the standard. Mate, that's what happened.
Like you went, oh, did you get a C before?
Hold on, we've got a new system. It's called the Nceea.
We're gonna give you what's equivalent to an a well
done off you go go to university. And so they
were like, it's making the kids in our skills the
chief Well, that's not good for anybody. They can walk
away with a certificate that says that they got whatever

(01:20:33):
the stupid thing is that they got an NCEEA, but
it doesn't actually teach. That doesn't mean they know how
to read, and it doesn't mean they know how to write.
So anyway, which they don't. Actually you'll find and they
said that most were the low dec our schools most
impacted by the changes. Yes, it will be, because it'll
be because you guys who have to actually lift your
socks up and start teaching your kids properly anyway. So

(01:20:54):
on account of all of that, I decided to better
not talk about it's get to get too I get
too cross at principles of already vulnerable kids basically trying
to like keep them down because that's too lazy to
actually like just lift the standards. That's essentially where I
think we're at with it. So you can see why
I didn't want to talk about it. And now I
have six twenty four.

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Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
K Sam Dickeye on why the luxury brands like Louis
Verton and stuff is doing having a bit of a
tough time. At the moment, I've got show biz news
for you. Stand by that. That's the Allen theme. That's
how long it's been. We've already forgotten. Allen is in
some hot water again. There are allegations new allegations of bullying,

(01:21:48):
even three years after her show was canceled. A former
camera operator has spoken to The Daily Mail anonymously, and
he's given us an interesting look at what the job
was like behind the scenes. Apparently she fired eight stage
managers in a single season, and then he revealed that
there was a celebrity that she banned from reappearing on
the show.

Speaker 8 (01:22:05):
You really did?

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
I did because I wasn't concentrating.

Speaker 18 (01:22:09):
Now I feel it was extremely guilty.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
I was trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Teach you at the same time, right, I know, But
it's convenience of red papas.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
In a blow.

Speaker 4 (01:22:16):
Gordon Ramsey, if you're wondering, it was Gordon Ramsy, but
it wasn't after that time when he cut himself on air.
Apparently they did an unaired segment where her team brought
him some rancid meat to cook and he took a
bite and he said, this.

Speaker 19 (01:22:27):
Is rubbish, but that's disgusting.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
And Alan did not like that he said that, and
on account of that, she banned Gordon from ever coming back. Yeah,
I reckon, that's a C grade story. What do you think?
I don't think that was. That wasn't our best show
show bus News.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
But hey, look we can always do better, can't we?
And we will tomorrow.

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Speaker 4 (01:23:07):
Is coming.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
Please don't go par.

Speaker 4 (01:23:13):
Kender Brady is going to be with us in ten minutes.
And yeah, look, I'm wondering whether I should warn you
now I'm gonna warn you. Okay, we're gonna talk about
adrian Or in a minute. But I think this kind
of may tie a bow around the thing. So this
could be like the last installment, the last episodic episodic
installment in the adrian Or saga that's dragged on too long,
so stand by for that. Hither There are about four

(01:23:36):
hundred and twenty high schools and secondary schools, which means,
and this is apropos what's going on with Nikola willis
which means actually that the eighty nine principles is a
big number because eighty nine out of about four hundred
and twenty odd is what like twenty one percent, So
it's one in five. That's a significant number of principles
who don't like something. I mean, still not the majority,
but big enough. Twenty four away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Heather du for see Allen So, luxury.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Brands and luxury spending as a category have been booming
for the last twenty five plus years. But Gucci, Chanel,
Louis Vuitton brands like that, they've pushed product prices coming
out of COVID, and that's really starting to come home
to roost now. Apparently Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is
with us to explain a Sam Good isn't here, okay,
so give us a little bit of context about what's
been going on here with a luxury sector.

Speaker 28 (01:24:18):
It's a it's been a home run for the past
sort of twenty five years. So luxury as a sector
has grown sort of twice as fast as global retail sales,
and companies like kind of Hermes, Ferrari, Louis Verton.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
And mont Clear.

Speaker 28 (01:24:31):
They're up sort of ten twenty thirty fold over the
past twenty five years. Miles more than the stock market,
and the customer base is inherently significantly more resilient than
the average consumer. So the other thing is when you
think about the motor around these companies. You and I
have talked about brand motes before, being tough heather through
the lens of companies like Nike.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
They these companies have been.

Speaker 28 (01:24:54):
Around for you know, in Ume's case, sort of one
hundred and eighty seven years sort of, and they're steeped
in hand crafted quality. They they have long waiting lists,
they're some of the most recognizable brands on earth, so
they really do have sort of wide motes around their businesses.
And the final thing is, in this kind of ultra
fast moving world, as an investor, you want to know
what a company's going to look like in ten years,

(01:25:14):
and most people couldn't tell you what the average tech
company will look like in ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
They might look.

Speaker 28 (01:25:18):
Completely different or they might be non existent. But in
fifty years from now, wealthy consumers will still want scarce,
ultra high quality, handcrafted leave the handbags.

Speaker 4 (01:25:30):
So how hard did these guys drive the prices during
and after COVID?

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Very hard?

Speaker 28 (01:25:37):
They really did gouge, so they kind of had the
perfect storm conditions to gouge. So there was boutique closures,
There was tons of liquidity given low interest rates and
luxury by the way, like art is a bit of
a kind of a liquidity proxy. Even there's lots of
cash flowing around, people will buy art, people buy handbags.
There was the prevailing general inflation which they had behind,

(01:25:59):
and of course is the limited supply, which is like
pricing power on steroids for these guys. So the Chanel
classic sort of jumbo flat bag. I don't know much
about these bags, by the way, I do know the companies.
So they jump from sort of less than six thousand
dollars in twenty nineteen to well over eleven thousand dollars

(01:26:19):
and twenty twenty five, so they sort of doubled in
six years. So classic channel were really gouging. Multiple price
rises per year became the norm. Like Louis Vuitton raised
prices three times and seven months at one stage. Normally
they raised prices once a year, So they really did
gouge their customers.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
Now what's happening as a result, what's going on with
the revenue now?

Speaker 28 (01:26:42):
Yeah, so that this gouging or overruning is coming home
to roost, like you said, and so that they're facing
their sort of harshest reality checks since the two thousand
and eight financial crisis. So the luxury market is sort
of shrinking about nine percent right now. But companies like
sort of Curring, which owns multiple brands, but Gucci the
most recognizable, they've been shrinking by as much as twenty percent,

(01:27:03):
especially in China. Because China has been a very small
part of the luxury market way back pre GFC. They're
now a huge part of the luxury market. And the
China luxury buying is really quite sentiment driven, quite liquidity driven,
and the all important property market in China has been
a horror show for the last couple of years, which

(01:27:25):
drives consumer sentiment. So we are already seeing these guys going
through their winter of discontent.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Yeah, well, Chicken's coming home to roost. What does it
mean to investors?

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Well, this is a strong market.

Speaker 28 (01:27:38):
Nothing's changed as a strong market that the customer base
is very resilient, and these brands, you know, especially someone
like as one hundred and eighty seven years old, is
among the most recognizable in the world. But it's just
a reminder that when you gouge your customer. The chickens
really do come home to roost. So we'll have to
see how this plays out for the next quarter or two.

(01:27:59):
But right now they're deep in the winter of discontent.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
Yeah, that's fascinating stuff. Sam, Thanks for talking us through it, mate,
And you know, go and brush up on your handbags,
because I feel like there are people in your life
who would appreciate that that. Sam Dickey Fisher Funds nineteen away.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
From seven Heather duplicy Llen.

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Right, So here's the update on the Adrian or resignation that,
as I said, as a saga that's dragged on way
too long.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
Now, yesterday, do you remember, Jane told us that she'd
gotten her hot little hands, she'd got the ombudsman's ruling
that had forced the Reserve Bank to come clean on
the timeline, We've got the timeline. Actually, the timeline tells
us a lot more than we knew before. So this
is what happened. There was a meeting with Nikola and
Neil and Adrian and Christian and that happened on February twenty.

(01:28:42):
And then there was the meeting, the fateful meeting with
Treasury where they took the minutes, which Neil didn't like.
And that was four days later, on February twenty four.
What we did not know until now is that on
February twenty seven, three days after that second meeting, Adrian
or stood down temporarily as governor. He had to stay

(01:29:02):
out of the office. Christian took over as the acting
governor on that day, and Neil wrote to Adrian about it.
He wrote on behalf of the non executive members of
the board outlining a series of concerns, noted the apparent
lack of trust between Adrian and the board, and Nikola
and Treasury voiced his concern about the tenor of the
dialogue at the meetings. Remember how we thought that he'd

(01:29:25):
sworn at the meetings and they told us he hadn't sworn.
While obviously the tenor of the dialogue was a thing though,
wasn't it. Anyway, that was February twenty seven. So between
February twenty seven, he's out of the office and Christian
is in charge, and he's not coming into the office
and he stood down and he's got the letter basically, well,
I would say that sounds like a bloody warning letter,
doesn't it to you anyway then March three, which I'm

(01:29:48):
guessing is what like? Was it a leap here this year? No,
it wasn't, says four days later, March three, Adrian. Adrian
writes back and rejects the assertions in the letter, but
agrees that a lack of trust between the parties. They
then have it, and it wasn't March the third, the Monday.
I think March the third was the Monday, wasn't it
when Nikola Willis had previously dated her? Anyway, I'm getting

(01:30:10):
in the weeds the end of mine. Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it. But that's when she remember when
she had she had already they wrote, they'd already written
his bye bye press release on March the third, they
dad chats and what not, sorted it out. Two days later,
Adrian resigns. The press release goes out with the wrong date.
The Boar degrees to withdraw the letter it sent Adrian
on February twenty seven. God, Jessey, didn't it now? It's Jersey.

(01:30:35):
Now we know what's really going on here, don't we.
He was behaving like such a fill in the blank
that he had to go out that he was kept
out of the office for it and he had to
go in, or maybe he chose to stay out of
the office and Christian had to be in charge. But anyway,
the thing is what this brings us to is when
Neil was asked why did Adrian quit? Was the right

(01:30:57):
answer not? Actually, well, Adrian because we had a couple
of meetings and he busts nut in them and I
sent him a warning letter and he had to stay
out of the office. And then after all of that
we agreed that he would quit and I'd withdraw the letter.
That's why he quit, because he's been behaving badly. Wasn't
that actually the right answer instead of answering the question
with a it was a personal decision. Once again, Neil

(01:31:20):
Quigley was fitting sixteen away from seven.

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And Brady UK corresponds with us. Now, Hey, Enda, hey Heather,
how are you? Yeah, I'm good. Nigel Farage is having
a good time, isn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
Yes?

Speaker 14 (01:31:43):
He is so.

Speaker 22 (01:31:44):
All week long he's been talking about deportations and removing
six hundred thousand illegal migrants from the UK if he
becomes Prime minister. Today the d Ward is on the
front pages. But it's a defection from the Conservatives. A
Scottish member of Parliament called Graham Simpson. He has announced
that he will no longer be with the Conservatives and

(01:32:05):
he is joining Reform UK. So we're seeing this constant
drip of defections. Basically for Ash building up his forces,
gaining more traction. He's riding high in the polls twenty
six percent now, Labor and Starmer are on twenty, Conservatives
way behind on fifteen. It's all there for Forage. But

(01:32:25):
you know we're four years out from the election. That's
a long time to maintain momentum.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
Now what's this Chip's reason for wanting to join Reform?
What's it for him?

Speaker 22 (01:32:35):
Well, knowing politicians as I do and as you do,
I would say self interest and self preservation. I think
a lot of people in Scotland will be looking at
the polling of the Conservative Party. You know, as much
as the SMP aren't doing brilliantly and Labor aren't, the
Conservatives are fading away and I think there is a
danger for them that north of the border as well,

(01:32:58):
reforms start picking up some of their seats.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Okay, now, what is going on with the French government.

Speaker 22 (01:33:03):
Inda, they're going to fall next week. If we believe
all of the analysis coming out of France, all of
the political pundits believe that time is up for Francois Beyroux.
He is going to be another short lived French Prime minister.
Macron has a huge crisis coming his way, so Beiru
called a confidence vote. It will happen in the next

(01:33:26):
ten to twelve days and he's not going to win it.
So the left wingers have said they won't support him.
The hard right have said categorically, we're not supporting you.
We want a national election again. I actually covered the
previous election. It only seems like yesterday I was in
Paris and there was lots of optimism with this guy
coming in. It's all over. Francois Beroux will fall. And

(01:33:50):
the real issue is the economic situation facing France. They're
running a GDP deficit of somewhere in the region of
five point eight percent this year, and the national debt
is touching getting on for five and a half trillion
and z.

Speaker 4 (01:34:06):
Dollars yees and it's messive stuff, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:34:08):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
Does chep who won the Chase and then die? Do
we know why? He died?

Speaker 22 (01:34:13):
Long standing illness his family have said, which he didn't
want to tell the producers of The Chase about because
he was very worried that, you know that they might
say we can't have you on the show. He was
a huge, huge fan of The Chase, as a lot
of us are. I watch it as often as I can,
and I think it's a brilliant show. Beating the Chaser
does not happen that often. Tim McCarthy, however, sixty four

(01:34:36):
years old, a head teacher from the Greater Manchester area.
He went on the show and he beat the Chaser
with one second to go and nobody knew this. His
wife knew it, and his children knew it. And then, sadly,
between filming and the episode being screened on British TV yesterday,
Tim passed away. So his wife invited all their family

(01:34:59):
and ends to the local pub in Tildesley in Greater Manchester,
a pub called the Colliers, and they sat down at
five o'clock yesterday evening to watch The Chase with everyone
else not knowing what happened, and I reckon, you could
have lifted the roof off that pub with the chair
when Tim won and he walked away with one hundred
thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Good is it?

Speaker 14 (01:35:19):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
How far in advance of an airing do they film it?

Speaker 22 (01:35:23):
So I asked this question yesterday. They actually filmed that
episode October of last year and it wasn't broadcast. He
passed away in July and it was not broadcast until yesterday.
So there are months and months and months in advance.

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
Jays, Hey, Inda, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Into Brady, UK correspondent. There is another political just back
home here, another political poll that's out there. It's the
Talbot Mills Pole for August. It basically confirms everything that
It basically is much the same as everything we've seen
up to now. Labour's on thirty four percent, up one.
National hasn't changed. They're thirty two, so Labor store beats National.

(01:35:57):
The Green Pad has come back slightly now sitting on
eleven percent. New Zealand First has gone up because they
are on a rip at the moment, A gone up
two percentage points now sitting on nine and a half
actors on eight. Steady Mary Party has gone up a
little bit, sitting on four point four percent wrong track,
right track, still major problem for the government. Fifty percent
of the country reckons we're on the wrong track, thirty
seven percent reckon we're on the right track, and the

(01:36:18):
remaining thirteen percent are unsure. We're too scared to say.
Nine away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
I've been meaning to read you this text from Jace.
Jason sent me a couple of texts today. Actually they've
both been bangers. Here that it's Jase from Queenstown. Here again.
I'm going to be fifty one next week and I
am most definitely in the prime of my life. I
am more fit than I've ever been, and I'm in
the best part of my career I've ever been.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
A year.

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
It just keeps getting better. My life is now. I
think that means like, as in my life, the best
part of my life is now. And we were talking
about this before. We all agree on the in this team,
the best part of your life now, the prime time
is basically what you want it to be, isn't it?
And then you could keep finding all some things to
keep making that prime time last whatever whatever it is.

(01:37:07):
I feel like my prime. I feel like will I
will still be in my prime when I am retired,
because I've got so many things I'm going to do
when I'm retired. I've got a list of things that
I need to get through. It's boring. You'll look at
it and you'll go, geez, you need a life. But
to me it brings me joy. You know, things like
going back to university. I know, see going back to
university it's studying another I know, I know what a

(01:37:29):
loser anyway, listen. Chris Luxen has admitted that running a
country is in fact harder than running a business.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Who knew.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
He did an interview with the MBR and he was
asked whether it was more or less stressful to be
a prime minister.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
A lot more. Yeah, there's a lot more to it.

Speaker 29 (01:37:46):
That's it's quite different running a country than a company, obviously,
but there are things that are consistent.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
It's obviously more stressful because there is us numpties to consider.
He can't just do the things he wants to. I
don't know what he wants to do. I don't know
what he wants to do. That's part of the problem.
But he can't just do the things he wants to
do because he has to consider what we want him
to do. Anyway, the things that are that are pretty
much the same.

Speaker 29 (01:38:05):
And a lot of that is about team building, about
putting the right ministers on the right assignments with clarity
about what I'm expecting them to deliver, supporting them, but
also holding them to account.

Speaker 4 (01:38:14):
And I'm really proud of what we've done management. So
management is the same. So when we set when we
called him prime manager, bang on, bang on, what have
you got?

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Ends?

Speaker 30 (01:38:25):
What's my name? By Snoop Dogg to play us outside?

Speaker 4 (01:38:28):
How good would that news?

Speaker 8 (01:38:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 30 (01:38:30):
And are very very good news. And to tell you what,
you're going to have to get your act together as well.
Snoop Dogg is going to be playing at the dew
Drop Event Center in Marnoco in Auckland in like a month,
September the twentieth. So yeah, the sales start on stop it,
yes see. Yeah, I'm looking at the Herald story and
it says September twentieth, twenty twenty five, So.

Speaker 4 (01:38:48):
I'm not going anywhere. We're not going to Wellington now,
cancel that.

Speaker 30 (01:38:52):
Yeah, sales start at six pm on September the first
go to the event. Find it at co dot Nz.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
I've been invited to a birthday party that night. Cancel that.

Speaker 30 (01:39:00):
Of your apologies to the person, good news your president.
It's a ticket to Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Is he skinned or something?

Speaker 30 (01:39:07):
I mean, let's not look at gift as in the mouth.

Speaker 4 (01:39:09):
But is he skip?

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Why are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
Why are you announcing you're doing a concert in like
three weeks time? What's up?

Speaker 30 (01:39:15):
Was the promoter worry that we would have another the
weekend situation, and so they waited until it was definitely
going to have something.

Speaker 4 (01:39:20):
Funny going on here? Is that there's something funny going on?
And also like who does a considant? Do you drop vants?

Speaker 30 (01:39:27):
I think he's played there before, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:39:29):
He played up?

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
But not sure.

Speaker 4 (01:39:31):
Last time I was there, I was having a grizzle
fizzzle type tizzle.

Speaker 30 (01:39:35):
I've been some stuff at do you drop events?

Speaker 6 (01:39:37):
Here?

Speaker 4 (01:39:37):
It's very nice, but oh god, we're got to go
hod on. I'm writting it on my hand like an
old person. The snoop. We're gonna go to that the
the perimenopausal women are going to snoop dog watch out
do you drop events Center, were coming to see you
tomorrow and.

Speaker 31 (01:39:53):
That wild because don't you filmed the king my blank
pusal swe I'm a long him legit now more for
wrongs with the dog pound right behind me, and you're
rolling up with my best and for your make bind
me ringing that bringing that cheek thing she wrote, the
cheek with the biggest sack in old sack, he is
I and I am him slim with the tilting brun

(01:40:14):
what's your name?

Speaker 8 (01:40:20):
Go?

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
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