Full Show Podcast: 29 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spin spin to find the real story boring.
It's Heather Duper Clan Drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,
we'll have a chat about these new rules designed to
get the economy going. We'll talk to the RMA Minister.
Also head off to the USA to find out what's
happened to Elon Musk and main freight boss Dom Braid
on why We're down, why the US is down, and
why Ozzie is up. Heather Dupercyla, Right, let's talk about
these kids who have been born here but have no

(00:36):
right to be here because the parents are overstayers. Seems
to me a total no brainer to give these guys citizenship.
I mean, set aside even the bleeding heart stuff that
is relevant, but set that aside. Just from a purely
economic perspective. We should be helping them stay here, shouldn't we,
Because I mean, we've invested huge amounts of money into
these kids. We've educated them sometimes all the way up

(00:56):
to the age of eighteen. We've given them free healthcare,
we've given them whatever stuff we do for kids in
this country. So surely it only makes sense to let
them stay here, let them work here, let them pay
their taxes and essentially pay the country back. But also
we can't afford to kick these young workers out. I mean,
what have we been talking about on this show for
nearly a week now. We've been talking about the rising
cost of superannuation. It's completely unaffordable. Apparently we used to

(01:20):
have seven workers supporting everyone pension and now we only
have two and a half workers. We can't carry on
like that. If we accept that to be true, and
it is, then we cannot afford to lose these young workers.
We need every single decent one that we can keep here. Now.
Decent is an important distinction. I mean, obviously we don't
want to keep the rascals because they'll just be a
net cost to New Zealand. So here's a very simple test, right,

(01:42):
if the kid and their parents haven't fallen foul of
the law in a significant way, you know, small infringements
like traffic finds aside and so on. If they've largely
been good, tax paying, law abiding people, then keep them
because think about it as like this as well. At
some point most of those parents, if not all, all
of them will have been given a visa, so they'll
have been wanted by this country. They will have passed

(02:04):
some sort of a test. They've just overstayed. So I
think give them an amnesty, both the kids and their parents,
because surely, purely based on economics, we have invested too
much into them to give a potentially good taxpayer to
another country just out.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Despite Heather Dupless, then two nine two.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Is the text number. Standard text fees apply. Now there
are calls on the government to back off changing the
law to protect Bagazzi banks. One hundred and seventy thousand
kiwis are in a class action against ASB and A
and Z. Allegedly these two banks breached respondible responsible lending regulations.
The only trouble is the government's about to pass a
piece of legislation that will unwind all of that. Scott

(02:41):
Russell is leading the class action and is with us. Now, Hey, Scott, hey, Heather,
why is the government changing the law to wipe these
guys responsibilities here?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
It's a good question.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
We can't understand that either aims in ASB A is
saying that generally is under the law potentially present an
substantial risk to the economy. What we're saying is that's
just simply rubbish. There's no evidence of that, and it
seems the suspicion is that by amending the law, it's
just National helping out the Australian banks in this case.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Have the banks just lobbied them hard.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Seems to be the way. We've actually sought information from
MBM in the Ministers about that lobbying and we've been
rejected that that's been withheld from us. So we're not
able to see why this law has actually come into place.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
How much is each of these people You've got one
hundred and seventy thousand kiwis in this class action. How
much is each of them potentially standing to get from
the banks?

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Well, I current representative plaintiffs a dueu between sort of seven, ten,
fifteen thousand dollars each depends on the size of your
loan and the amount of interest you are paying over
the time period. But our estimate is it's going to
be in the hundreds of millions of dollars that ordinary
Kiwis are due and compensation from their banks.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Okay, it's hundreds of million dollars, millions of dollars split
between the two banks. Yeah, that's correct. I mean, what's
the existential threat those guys make what like a billion
dollars at a time in a year.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Well, that's what we're trying to work out as well,
because when you look at their balance sheets, they're making
over a billion dollars each year, which is flying straight
back into the Australian parent companies, which actually make almost
ten billion dollars a year.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Okay, what are the chances, like, how long have you
got to fight this before this piece of legislation has passed?

Speaker 5 (04:32):
What was inter just introduced to the House and it's
going to select committees shortly. So we're going to fight
it tooth and nail the whole way because we just
don't think it's it's fair and we don't think it
applies applies with the rule of law in New Zealand.
It's not what New Zealand's about.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
What are the chances do you think who's the minister?
Is it Scott Simpson?

Speaker 5 (04:49):
Now Scott Simpson?

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Commerce what are the chances that he backs off?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
I think pretty high. It doesn't even reading the Parliamentary
the legislation in Parliament it says retrospectivity should not be
should not apply to any law. And they actually, in
this new law have put in a little clause that
says the normal rules under the legislation don't apply to this.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
All right, Scott, listen, thanks very much. I really appreciate
you talking us through a best of luck fighting that,
because it seems a no brainer. This is this bizarre,
isn't it, Scott Russell, Director at Russell van Hout. Goodness.
I don't know, by the way. Put that one in
for a chat with Nikola Willis on Monday when she's
with us on the show. We'll ask her about that,
because this seems like a weird one that it's gonna
be a hard one for the government to defend because

(05:37):
it comes down to it's simply you're taking the side
of four well, in this case, two Australian banks against
one hundred and seventy thousand Kiwis, how do you justify that?
I'd love to know the answer, anyway, Listen on to
something else. I don't know how the people of Mission
Bay are going to take this, but McDonald's has just
been given permission to build a restaurant there. Yep, yep,

(05:59):
I know it's big deal.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
For that.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
They don't have anything like that. They are a McDonald's
free zone in Mission Bay, Iraqi. Really didn't want it.
There were three hundred and eighty one submissions. Three hundred
and thirty one of them were apposed. They were worried
about the usual stuff. The kids are going to get
fat seeing the McDonald's and eating it. You know, there's
gonna be litter everywhere from all those big mac wrappers.
It's gonna be traffic. Traffic is traffic, I feel is

(06:24):
an acknowledgment that it's going to be popular, do you
know what I mean? So they're like, everybody's gonna all
these all these gross people are gonna come and eat
burghers in our suburb. And then my favorite is the
light pollution. Apparently the Golden arches are so bright and
shiny that at night it's going to cause light pollution. Anyway.
Regardless of all of these very persuasive arguments, the McDonald's

(06:46):
is coming, in fact to an Iraqi near you and
a Mission Bay near you, so kiir Kaha to everyone
who lives there. Fourteen past four.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's the Heather to Bussi Al and Drive Full Show
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Speaker 3 (07:02):
Heather, there has been a McDonald's Mission Bay before. It's
where the Mervin pack is now spelt so badly. I
almost didn't know what you were talking about.

Speaker 8 (07:12):
Character, isn't it pecks.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's funny. Yeah, anyway, so there was McDonald's before, So
it's just a return to the good old days in
Mission Bay. Darcy water Grave at seventeen past fours with me. Now, Hey, Darcey, Hey,
here the hell are you doing?

Speaker 8 (07:25):
Can I offer you are chippy?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
What are you doing?

Speaker 8 (07:28):
What are we talking about on Tuesday?

Speaker 6 (07:30):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Geez, your lame?

Speaker 9 (07:31):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
You blame lame? However, did you go and especially go
to the vending machine and buy chips?

Speaker 8 (07:40):
I never go to the vending machine because I can't
stand the vending machine. I think it's an absolute scam.
But yes, I went to the vending machine machine and
I purchased, said Crisp, so I could make another terrible dad.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I'll tell you what interesting that you've gone for sea salt.
It would be I just think sea salt's like buying water,
isn't it. That's the it's born, isn't that?

Speaker 8 (08:00):
I like salts? I'm a very boring individual. I like simplicity,
playing T shirts, playing jeans.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Anyway, thank you to ask you to share that ship
with me. So Patrick's recited lame though, Patrick and All.

Speaker 8 (08:12):
Thirty two up says, Yeah, he's decided that he's going
to stick around in twenty eight which is so good
form not only the Blues, but you know he's been
around since twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Wow, it'll take him fourteen years twenty fourteen.

Speaker 8 (08:27):
Playing rugby for the Blues?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Are you serious?

Speaker 8 (08:32):
That's one hundred and six? But he's not He's not
going He's not going to go anywhere.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (08:39):
He made his All Black debut in twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (08:44):
And so when he gets the end of this, this
is so good because.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Japan for a while, didn't he for a bit? It's
made a few dollars.

Speaker 8 (08:53):
Wow. I don't think if you're an All Black for
that amount of time, you're really going to be short
of a crust, are you?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well's I don't know.

Speaker 8 (09:01):
I don't know the detail behind it, but I suspect
that he's got a couple of young kids. It's like,
do I need to go to it?

Speaker 7 (09:09):
No?

Speaker 8 (09:10):
I'm on a good wicked here. I love it here
in New Zealand, and I'm going to hang around here
and do that.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, well, you've got the kids, you like the family around,
you know, the grannies and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
So I get that you need the free babysitters, don't you.

Speaker 10 (09:20):
It's not a.

Speaker 8 (09:22):
Isn't that what they are?

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Sound like me making everything economic? Hey, yees see the
Blues one. I'm really sorry.

Speaker 8 (09:29):
No, I don't apologize. It was a terrible game, was this? Yeah,
I'm apologizing. I sat through it. I didn't get what
I wanted ordered a good game. It was the New
South Wales team tried the best they could to butcher that.
They scored four tries to one, but couldn't kick anything
over the past like one from five. I think it
was so that means Queensland.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Were there or thereabouts.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
It was the chance, but Queensland the talk about feet
for hands that were they Honestly it was so bad
to watch them, my oh no and the crowd. But
this is only they went back to back and this
hasn't happened New South Wales since twenty eighteen twenty nineteen.
If they go back to back and win the series
ago to Perth next but since ninety seven have they

(10:12):
gone back to back at sun Corp. So the crowd a,
this is not ir works, You're not supposed to do.
That wasn't the game i'd like I expected. There was
some magnificence, but mostly it was it was salty or
crunchy or whatever.

Speaker 11 (10:28):
You want to point at the chips.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Of course I'm gonna point it, because of course you are,
all right, what are you talking about this evening?

Speaker 8 (10:33):
I want to talk about Origin. I want to talk
about Andrew Webster yesterday for the Warriors saying look it's insane.
These are not his words, he's a mine. But basically,
the NRL cannibalizes itself for six weeks of the year
when they start cutting a drift players and teams, and
just for Origin, it's so big, it's the pinnacle.

Speaker 9 (10:51):
So you get why they do it.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
But just because it's.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
Always been like that doesn't mean I have to carry
on being It's going to be perfectly honest about this.
Half of the best players, maybe more in the NRL
are not Australians, the New Zylanders, pacifica yep. And during
that period they don't get to do much except get
beaten around the head and face because a lot of
their teammates are off playing origin, so you'd.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Think they should dominate.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
Maybe something should happen here do we get someone and
I know it's been talking to be a.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Part of Cooper Darce. It's working. It's fun working for who.
We'll talk about it this evening, Darcy water Grave. We're
back at seven o'clock for sports Talk for.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Twenty the advice moving the big stories of the day forward.
It's Heather Dupers and Drive with one New Zealand let's

Speaker 3 (11:41):
That'd be hey, a bit of trouble for former police
commissioner Mike Bush. He's been named Victoria's next chief commissioner.
But now the appointments had a bit of a snag.
They have to, by the way, apparently have a look
at the laws in order to clarify whether he's actually
eligible to be the police chief there. So anyway we'll
get we'll see how that goes. So that doesn't sound

(12:04):
like a very well laid plan, does it for twenty
four Now Lord's song must have dropped about twenty four
minutes that well, they're they're digging it out. They dig
it it's got the thumbs up. They dig it out
because I don't know if you caught up on it,
but boy, it was a Festival of Lord last night.
So our producer Sam spent hours hours standing outside the
YMCA first of all, basically all day trying to figure

(12:25):
out where it was. And then when he figured it
out where it was, he went to the YMCA last night.
So that what happened was this is what the event was.
It's basically what they're doing. This is none of this
is organic, by the way. The whole thing is constructed
and fabricated and designed to kind of create a moment,
right so that like a viral sharing type moment in
social media, and it's been done really really well. People
are really getting into it. So what they did last

(12:47):
night was the central of these invitations to about ninety
well I think it was forty eight people and see
you and a plus one can come to this event
last night, and they turned up at the YMCA on
Vincent Street in Auckland and then they got lead down
in groups. There were three groups. They were separated into
three groups of thirty two and one group at a
time got taken down and they were taken into the
building handed over their phones any recording devices. Then led

(13:10):
down a stairwell into a pitch black toilet cubicle, and
then they waited there for a little bit by themselves,
this group of thirty two, And then one of the
toilet doors swung open, and Lord stepped out into the
darkness and said hi. And then she worked away to
the center of the group and chatted to them, pulled
a lighter out of her pocket hit it was the

(13:32):
only light in the room. The song what Was That
started playing, and she sang and danced to What Was
That in amongst the crowd, just holding her lighter. And
then for the next song, she pulled out some sort
of like a little box or something to stand on
in the toilet cubicle. It was like a makeshift stage,
and then she played more songs just with her lighter,
and then a little bit of laser came on and

(13:52):
a little bit of haze came on, and they all
danced together in the toilet. I like, this is what happened.
But of course there came everywhere filming it, right, So
presumably they're going to use it for some sort of
a thing, if not the music video, I don't know anyway,
by the end of the set, said somebody who was there.
The walls were wet with sweet went on for about
twenty minutes. Then Lord left. Then they escorted everybody else

(14:14):
out because that the next group had to come through.
They were handed a paper towel from the bathroom dispenser
as they went out, and each paper towel was numbered
out of ninety six and was signed by Lord. And
it was it was the album artwork and the track
list and the reason why she did it there in
a toilet and we said to you last night the
events center would ANSWER's got the song gone? Then aunts
pump it up. It wasn't going to be the event center,

(14:36):
was it, because that's not vibe for laughs, But toilets
are gentle. This man of the Year anyway, Sam is
going to come and give us Sam something of a
Lord for Shenado. He'll be with us later. Only you'll
give us all the rundown of all of this stuff. Also,
we're going to talk to Chris Bishop about the changes
to the rats. A lot come in your way, so

(14:58):
I'll run you through that shortly. Headline's next than he is?

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Lord?

Speaker 6 (15:07):
How uh.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Can say less mouth?

Speaker 1 (15:22):
He recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.

(15:47):
It's hither duplessy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's

Speaker 6 (15:52):
That'd be right.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Not been a good day for Trump as it, because
there was the thing with Elon, Elon's gone, isn't he here?
It was bad mouthing Trump. He bad mouth Trump. He
said something about the old, the beautiful the is it
big beautiful bill? Is that the way one big beautiful bill,
the one big beautiful bill act? If you saw that
there was a nickname for it, it actually isn't It's
its formal name, which is why I was trying very

(16:26):
hard to get it right. Anyway, So Elon had a
bit of a crack at that nickmann. Elon has gone,
isn't he? He is basically been. He's announced he's no
longer going to work for DOSH and they're getting him
out of the system. They're taking his email address off
him in a swipe card and all that stuff. Immediately,
we're going to go to the US to find out
what is going on here. Has he been a breakdown
in the relationship or is it simply a case are

(16:47):
these things unrelated? Unlikely? But we'll find out after five o'clock. Also,
as I said, Chris Bishop has announced some sweeping changes
to the RMA. Now this is quite technical what it is.
It's not the RMA legislation that is changing. But under
the REMA, there are twelve National Policy Statements and they
kind of they basically govern what happens with fresh water,

(17:07):
what happens with various land kinds of wetlands, blah blah
blah blah blah. And that is what they're changing because
those things you don't need to faff around trying to
rewrite the RMA, which takes years. You can just get
really instant results by changing these things. So they're doing
this basically to cut red tape, try and get stuff
out of the way of the economy and get the

(17:27):
economy going. So, for example, fresh water, they are gonna
have a look at the Temeno or to why part
of fresh water. If you know what that is, you'll
be welcoming that. I'd imagine. It's unclear if they're taking
it out or just deprioritizing it. But we'll talk to
Chris Bishop about that. Grayzed beef and cattle and deer
and low intensity farms would no longer need to be
kept out of wetlands. That's another change. They're going for

(17:48):
more quarries, basically in a nutshell. I mean, they're gonna
hate me saying this, but it seems incredibly apparent what
they're doing is they're basically going, let's just deprioritize the
environment a little bit and prioritize the economy. I ain't
got no problems with that. I'm going to talk to
Chris Bishop about it when he's with US after five.
Right now, twenty three away from five.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's the world wires on US talks.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
He'd be drive right well, as I said, a US.
It's been a tough day for Donald Trump and the US.
A federal court has overruled his tariffs. The White House
has appealed the decision. This lawyer is representing the small
businesses that took this case to court.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Of course, we're delighted.

Speaker 12 (18:25):
This is a huge problem for not only our five
business clients who were tremendously impacted by these tariffs negatively,
but also for businesses across the country, and I think
for consumers, American consumers who will feel the effects of
these tariffs.

Speaker 13 (18:42):
Have they gone on longer.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
The US is again trying for a ceasefire in Gaza.
Here is US Envoy Steve Whitcoff.

Speaker 14 (18:48):
We are on the precipice of sending out a new
term sheet that hopefully we'll be delivered later on today.
The Pression is going to review it, and I have
some very good fears about getting to a long term resolution.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
And finally, Turkey has taken action against the common breach
of traveling tickets. The country's aviation authority has brought in
a fine for airline passengers who get out of their
seat too quickly after the plane lands. Anyone who gets
up before the plane has finished taxiing can now be
fined one hundred and twelve New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Dollars International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
Murray olds Lossy correspondence with US.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Now, hey, muz hey, here they're going to afternoon.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
What's happened in the Mushroom Cook trial today?

Speaker 15 (19:36):
Well, the last prosecution witness is still in the court,
Aaron Patterson. Of course, the Victorian bum accused of three
counts of murdering family members by preparing a lunch using
death cap mushrooms. Now, Mss Patterson's in laws died along
with the sister of her mother in law, after she
served them lunch late July twenty twenty three. And as

(19:59):
I say the I mean, it's into the fifth week
now this trial down in Victoria, and the thing I've
found really fascinating is we're being taken behind the police
investigation into this, the evidence from the chief homicide officer
who's investigated the case. He was the fellow who interviewed
Miss Patterson for the first time. Now her barrister has

(20:21):
been taking us inside this investigation. They've been unlocking mobile
telephones for retrieving data and messages on family threads, examining
websites that relate to the location of death cap mushrooms
found in Victoria. Online searches we understand carried out by
Aaron Patterson, books that she bought, recipe books and the like.

(20:41):
This is day twenty two of the trial. She has,
of course, denied all charges. Now the big question for
me this afternoon is will her defense council, who's been
conducting the interrogation of the policeman for the last couple
of three days, will her defense council call MS Patterson.

Speaker 16 (21:01):
To give evidence.

Speaker 15 (21:01):
So that's going to be the next fascinating chapter, I suggest, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I imagine. So, hey, what is this business with this
thirty year old missing person case?

Speaker 15 (21:08):
Well, a cold case and a big reward, and it
looks like there's been well, there has been a breakthrough
a couple of hours ago, well late this morning, and
arrest was made. This concerns a forty nine year old
woman last seen thirty years ago December nineteen ninety three,
down in Wollongong, south of Sydney. Now Inquiries Cold Case

(21:30):
Inquiries decided to reopen this case last year. At the
same time, there was a half million dollar reward offered
for information into the disappearance of this woman and presumed
murder of this woman all those years ago. Now a
sixty four year old man is in custody, Police confirming
the reward has led to the possible breakthrough in the case.

(21:51):
Some clothing heather was recovered last year, months after this
reward was offered, and as I say, this fellow now
in custody, we're going to find that more than next
day or three.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Interesting Hey, listeners, have you still not got figured out
what on earth is going in Bradfield.

Speaker 16 (22:06):
This is amazing.

Speaker 15 (22:07):
This is a rock solid Liberal electorate in Sydney's North.
The election, as we all know, May the third. They're
still counting. Incredibly, there's about one hundred and twelve thousand
people who cast a ballot in Bradfield on that election day.
Would you believe the margin in the recount is a
single vote. This is from a total vote tally of

(22:32):
one hundred and twelve thousand. The Australian Electric Commission ordered
the recount four days ago. Automatically this happens when there's
a margin of fewer than one hundred votes. Now the
Liberal candidate isn't front by one single vote. She was
eight in front when the first ballots were counted. Again
of this week. And here's the thing, ever, she's already

(22:54):
been confirmed as a member of Susan Lee's shadow cabinet.
If she doesn't get up, I'm not sure what's going
to happen down in Canberra. But her name is Giselle Capterian,
very well credentialed Liberal candidate. As I say, one vote, Edit,
this recount's going to go on for some time. They
count every primary vote, every preference vote, They count all

(23:17):
the informals and finally, not your when, don't even ask me,
not your when. We're going to come to a final decision.
But the margin could not be tight.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
Too, right, Hey, muzz thanks very much appreciated. Murray Olds,
Australia correspondent here that you're incorrect about Elon Musk. He
can only do that role for one hundred and thirty
five days and that will come to an end. It's
nothing to do with what he said. Fair point. Slightly wrong,
but fairpoint. What it is is that he can only
do the role technically for one hundred and thirty days
because he's a special government employee, and that means in

(23:47):
any one calendar year, he's only supposed to work for
the government for one hundred and thirty days. And you
know Donald Trump stickler for the rules, so when he
saw one hundred and thirty days was almost up, he
was like, Elon, gonna have to follow those rules, mate,
You're gonna have to leave a whatever whatever. Apparently Elon's

(24:07):
given this interview that's gonna be So I think it
works out that what happened January for how many days
has may gotten it? BETI do you remember thirty is
e short's thirty one because I don't have time to
do the rhyme. It's thirty one how many days? Anyway,
so thirty one days. So I think it's supposed to
actually run out on the thirty first of May. And
he's given an interview that's going to air on the

(24:29):
first of June in which he criticizes the one big,
Beautiful Bill. So I don't know. I mean, it feels
either Elon has has just played this beautifully, whereas like
my time is up and now I can go out
and have a can have a crack at Trump, or
Trump's had it, got wind of it and he's not
happy about it. Anyway, we'll go to the US, we'll
find out what it is. Heather, incorrect, by the way,

(24:51):
on the migrants, this is this text on the migrants, Heather,
it's way more likely that these overstayer families have been
on benefits with the children likely to follow. Now, I
don't know that that is the case. I don't know
that that is the case because I've actually be told
that the overstaying parents are all working, they're actually paying
their taxes. Because there's no chatting between government departments, you know,
how it is so you can have an eye. You
could be an overstay. I have an id number be

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paying your taxes and stuff, while while the other government
department that's supposed to be deporting you is just blistfully
unaware of this. I've been told for the most part,
they're actually not on benefits, they're actually tax paying. However,
if they are on the benefits, if they are bludging
off the government, get rid of them. I don't mind,
absolutely get rid of them. But if they're paying their
taxes and their kids are going to have been educated

(25:34):
by us and are going to pay their taxes as well,
let them stay. We need them.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
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Speaker 3 (25:43):
It's thirteen away from five. Jason walls up political editors
with us. Hi, Jason, good evening. What's Jenny done?

Speaker 17 (25:50):
Jenny, Jenny, Jenny our poor Jenny Anderson. That's from the
Labor Party, that is, if you're not familiar with the name.
I think she needs a little bit of a history lesson.
I'm afraid we're not talking each history. We're talking quite
recent New Zealand political history, which you would have thought
she would have been pretty well clued up on She
was on Old Nate Nick Mills's show Wellington Mornings this
morning talking about the government's coalition arrangement.

Speaker 18 (26:13):
Have a listen, And there's only been one instance, which
is the current government, where you've had ministers in the
cabinet room. So the bigger party typically always takes up
those cabinet roles in the and it's part of negotiation.

Speaker 11 (26:26):
Hang on a second, what was that first part?

Speaker 18 (26:29):
And he's only been one instance, which is the current government,
where you've had ministers in the cabinet room.

Speaker 17 (26:33):
Well, what about one Winston Raymond Peters in twenty seventeen
to twenty twenty, Shane Jones, Tracy Martin.

Speaker 11 (26:40):
I could rattle off.

Speaker 17 (26:41):
A few of the other New Zealand First, so maybe just.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Give us That was she saying that New Zealand First
has never been in the cabinet room before.

Speaker 18 (26:49):
I'm going to play this for you again, and there's
only been one instance, which is the current government, where
you've had ministers in the cabinet room.

Speaker 17 (26:55):
So like a good well, like a good broadcaster, our
friend Nick Mills pushed back, and this is what she said.

Speaker 18 (27:01):
But they were, they were in the cabinet room.

Speaker 17 (27:05):
So that was when he was talking about these New
Zealand first MPs. So the deputy just for the record,
the deputy prime Minister was very much in the cabinet room.
In fact, when j Cinda Ardun was away on maternity leave,
Winston Peters was the chair of the cabinet.

Speaker 18 (27:20):
She went on, they would come to cabinet when they
have a paper. But currently correctly if I'm wrong, but
my understanding is this is the first government where we've
had multiple parties inside that cabinet room meeting for cabinet regularly.

Speaker 17 (27:34):
Now she is right on that latter part. This is
the first three way coalition where all three parties are
actually technically always sitting around the cabinet table. Under Labor
in twenty seventeen, the Greens were Confidence and Supply, so
although some of them were ministers, they would come in
and they were ministers, they were not part of the
cabinet per se. So good bay Nick.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
He follows up again, tell me if I'm wrong, and
you know this is your party I'm talking about. But
Whinston Peters was deputy prime minister, so you had a
deputy prime minister that wasn't in the cabinet moon room.
Is that what you're telling me.

Speaker 18 (28:08):
I have I still look, I wasn't in kidnet being,
to be honest, so I don't remember. I was not
a kidnety in the meion.

Speaker 17 (28:15):
It's a hard lessen, it's a high lesson. We all
do make mistakes. It happens from time to time. But
you know when you're on radio talking about something like this,
and the point was, you know, she's sure that the
Prime Minister needs to be more careful with the likes
David Seymour and Winston Peters. This is the sort of
things you should get right. And for the record, yes,
Winston Peters did sit in cabinet It's not the first
time that he's done it, and you know, might not

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even be the last day.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
How long has Ginny Anderson been in Parliament.

Speaker 11 (28:40):
Since twenty seventeen?

Speaker 3 (28:41):
So wasn't she there? Like, correct me if I'm wrong,
But wasn't she there when Jacinda was sitting next to
Winston in the cabinet room?

Speaker 11 (28:49):
Correct? Yes, she wasn't a minister at the.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Photo of Winston sitting in the cabinet room.

Speaker 17 (28:54):
Apparently not Apparently not Jinny, I like Ginny, I think
and I think she actually has had some you know,
some good moments in the house. But it was just
a bit of a lapse from old mate.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Oh wowie, hey, what's going on with lux And it's
not true that he really dry cleans his suits every
time he wears it.

Speaker 11 (29:11):
Is it's unfortunately not.

Speaker 17 (29:13):
It was a funny little anecdote that came from his
ketchup with Ryan Bridge on Herald Now this morning, which,
by the way, is it's actually going quite well. Congratulations Ryan,
if you're listening, if you're not already.

Speaker 11 (29:24):
Asleep, so well.

Speaker 17 (29:25):
We'll file this under the sort of the unrelatable Prime
Minister moments, because you know, since apparently it's in vogue
to ask MP's where they get their clothes from and
who they're wearing these days, Ryan asked about this and
the Prime Minister said, you know, he gets his clothes
from Working Style is a good Kiwi company.

Speaker 11 (29:40):
Then Ryan asked, do you will wear the same suit
twice that.

Speaker 13 (29:43):
I buy or two of the same suits at times.

Speaker 17 (29:46):
Which is I mean, wouldn't it be nice These suits
go for anywhere between fifteen hundred and two thousand apiece.
And then we get onto the conversation around the maintenance
of said suits.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Well, you always wash it before you wear it?

Speaker 16 (29:57):
What do you mean wash?

Speaker 13 (29:58):
I don't put it.

Speaker 16 (29:58):
Miss at the dry cleaners.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
It goes regular service and the dry cleaning service.

Speaker 17 (30:02):
Yes, so there was some conversation as to it was
a bit unclear if he meant after every single time
you wore it he went to get it dry cleaned.
I have confirmed with senior beehive sources that this isn't
in fact not the case.

Speaker 11 (30:13):
But he does.

Speaker 17 (30:14):
He cleans them regularly and it is patient. In anticipation
of your next question, No, we as taxpayers do not
pay for the cleaning.

Speaker 16 (30:22):
He does that himself.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Hold on, though, don't you get subsidized cleaning if you
work in the beehive?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Do you?

Speaker 11 (30:27):
I mean probably there's probably because.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
When I was in when I worked in the pres gallery,
there was a dry cleaners just down there where the
where the gymmers. Don't they still have the dry Kevin
collected and they took it, took it away and then
they brought it back for the ministers. Do they not
still do that?

Speaker 11 (30:41):
But they still do that.

Speaker 17 (30:41):
I don't know if it's subsidized though, because when I
get my suits dry cleaned.

Speaker 11 (30:44):
It's about forty five dollars upon.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Now you know what you're doing with the rest of
your afternoon. Can you make some phone calls?

Speaker 11 (30:49):
Oh yeah, okay, I'll hit the blower.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
You'll hit the phone, not the blow thank you, thank you.
It is the blower is also the phone.

Speaker 17 (30:56):
If okay, saw my Korea flashing before my eyes, there're.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Doing a Jenny Jason Wall's political editor seven away from five.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Putting the time question to the newspeakers, the Mike Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 19 (31:08):
Who reserving governor gave us a lot to think about. Yes,
the predictive cash rate can't came. But where we go
is potentially a bit of a mystery from here on.
In Christine Hawksbley's with us, we had.

Speaker 18 (31:16):
Lowered interest rates a long way and it does take
time for that to work its way through.

Speaker 13 (31:20):
Kind of see that in the effect of Morgat rates,
they are going to come down mechanically, so there is.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Still to come there.

Speaker 13 (31:26):
In our projections, we have a recovery continuing.

Speaker 19 (31:29):
Where is it You're seeing this recovery park, the farmers
and all that stuff that we obviously get. Where is
this recovery in services? Where is it in downtown Auckland,
downtown christ due to downtown Wellington.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Where is it?

Speaker 20 (31:38):
It's not?

Speaker 13 (31:39):
You know, this is the art of economics.

Speaker 19 (31:41):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Husking Breakfast with
Maybe's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 21 (31:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
So, Ginny, do you remember that when Stewart Nash was
on with On Politics Wednesday with Mike and Mark Mitchell,
we used to have a regular segment called Nash Facts
because that's how often stew we just make things up.
I think I think Ginny is of the same elk
because yesterday I was listening and she said that cataract

(32:10):
surgery wasn't that important.

Speaker 18 (32:12):
Cataracts are not important as knees and hipswitch are mobility.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
And who quality of life?

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Who says we said too?

Speaker 18 (32:18):
Who are waiting three years for a knee or hip?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Hop ark? Okay, now hang on attack okay mobility and
quality of life? Now, I don't know about you, but
I reckon mobility and quality of life is pretty hard
if you can't see anything because you got cataracts. I
was listening to that and I thought, m Ginny, are
you filtering that through the little thing that goes? Should
I say this? And I don't feel like you are anyway.
So if this carries on, I'm just I'm just putting
it out there. If it carries on, and there have

(32:43):
been a few examples now and I've been giving her
a bit of a long rope on this one. But
if it carries on, we're gonna have to revive nash
facts and we're gonna have to come up with a
name for it. And I don't know what to call
it yet. I haven't spent a lot like Jenny Fibbs
something something like that, you know, I don't know, spitball
that between ourselves anyway, Just a word, just a word

(33:05):
to the wise for Ginny, maybe just check those facts
because we're all listening. Chris Bishop is with us. Next
we're going to talk the RMA changes, and then we're
heading off to the US to find out what's gone
on with Elon Musk News talks. They'd be.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for
the full picture. Heather Duplessy on Drive with One New Zealand,
let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Hey, good afternoon. The government's announced sweeping changes to RMA rules,
in particular the National Policy Statements that deal with infrastructure, farming,
freshwater management and so on. For example, the government announced
they're going to make it easier to get consent for
mining and quarrying, boost the housing supply, and then use
rules for farmers as well. Chris Bishop Is, the Minister
for RMA reforming, is with us now bishallow, Hello, what

(34:05):
are you planning for the electricity sector.

Speaker 22 (34:07):
We're planning a strength and national policy statement for renewables,
which I mean it's complicated, but the short story is
it will send a really clear message to people doing
resource consents that we need more energy, we need more renewables.
In particular, the current policy statement is pretty vague and
it's not directive enough, so it will be much clearer
about that. Likewise, on transmission, you know, for generation you've

(34:28):
got to have the transmission and the distribution. Really hard
to get consent for some transmission around the place. It'll
be easy to get consent for all of these major appros.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Trying to wait the consent in favor of a.

Speaker 16 (34:37):
Yes, yes it is.

Speaker 22 (34:38):
So it seems a clear message from central government that
we need infrastructure. We're also doing a new policy statement
on infrastructure, which there isn't at the moment, which is
crazy when you think about it. So we need infrastructure,
we need renewable energy, we need these things to grow
the economy and boast energy. Does it make it a default, yes,
It doesn't make it a default, yes, but it seems
a very clear waiting in favor of development through these statements.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
And brings the costs down.

Speaker 22 (35:02):
Well, it will in time, because if you're trying to
get a resource consent for a wind farm or geo thermal,
you can spend literally years in court, millions and millions
of dollars on lawyers. And it's also the time like
it takes sometimes it takes six eight years to get
resource consent for a wind farm. It's totally crazy at
a time when we have an energy shortage and all
of these abundant renewables out there.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
And the freshwater statement, are you getting rid of the
tamno or to wipe part.

Speaker 22 (35:25):
We're consulting on rebalancing it and that's one of the options.
So we haven't made a firm decision on what.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Rid of it all together. It's so vague and weird.

Speaker 22 (35:33):
It is vague and it does cause complexity. We're going
through a bit of a two stage process there and
we are consulting that's one of the options is to
get rid of it entirely. But generally we are rebalancing
the system in favor of all water users and making
sure that we protect fresh water but also we can
use it. And also we're looking at things like greater
direction around water storage.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
It needs to be easy to store water for it
totally in Auckland. What's the problem with quarries. Why is
it so hard to get a quarry or expand a quarry?

Speaker 22 (36:01):
Well, good question. So we are making changes to a
whole suite of different things to make it easier to
get a quarry underway and a mine. It's really hard
to get consent for a quarry and we need them.
One of the major drivers why roads are so.

Speaker 16 (36:12):
Expensive to build on the Zealands.

Speaker 22 (36:13):
It's just really difficult to get the fill, get their
aggregate to build the roads. So there's all sorts of
rules around indigenous bio diversity, around wheatlands, around significanatural areas
that the system makes it just really too hard, and
so we are stripping back some of those protections in
order to allow quarries.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
You need to be honest about a right you're deprioritizing,
not completely deprioritizing, but you're lowering the priority on the
environment here.

Speaker 22 (36:35):
Well yeah, I mean we're saying that in relation to quarries,
they are of such significant importance to our future infrastructure,
redressing our infrastructure deficit that where it makes sense to
you should allow quarries to expand and open new ones.
That people don't necessarily like it, but the reality is
they also need we need roads, and they also don't
want to spend billions and billions of dollars building the roads.

(36:57):
So it needs to be easier to get through the
consenting process and the costs of the material going them,
like the fell and the aggregate.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
You know, it needs to be cheaper. Yes, Okay, Now, Bush,
what's going on with the road cones? But I'm going
to talk about this later in the program. But I
see road cones everywhere, and I thought your predecessor s
Me and Brown declared a war on road cones and
they were supposed to be gone.

Speaker 22 (37:12):
We've got a war on road cones, have you though?

Speaker 20 (37:15):
We do?

Speaker 22 (37:15):
We the war there and I can report some progress.
So we now track Well, firstly, we now track how
much is being spent on it, so the number of
dollars being spent as tracking down as a percentage. One
of the reasons why you do see them it is
that we're spending a huge amount more money on maintenance.
So when you do maintenance and you fill in all
the potholes, you know you don't necessarily need as many
as the road cones are out there at the moment,

(37:37):
you do need a bit of protection.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
But yeah, okay, listen, I'm okay with five road cones
at every pothole. If there are a thousand potholes, there
are five thousand road cones, I don't mind. What I've
got a problem with is five thousand road cones at
the one pothole and I'm still seeing that.

Speaker 22 (37:51):
Yeah, look, I can't I can't not agree with you.
Of course I agree with you. One of the interesting
things that I've just got the data today because I
suspected you might ask about this, is in is it
has been going around and actually checking when they're needed.
And they've actually removed three thousand road cones from three
thousand sites in the last year or so.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
What like three thousand road cones from three thousand signs.

Speaker 22 (38:10):
No, sorr, it's three thousand sites around the country. They
are just taking out the road cones so that they
found that well they weren't requiet they weren't. Yeah, they
just meant they weren't needed. So they're redundant. They call
them redundant road cones. So we've still got a war
on it. We're winning the war, but it will take time.
You know when battles overnight.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Are they ignoring you?

Speaker 16 (38:28):
Bish?

Speaker 22 (38:28):
No, But I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what
I am king to crack down on. And there's some
stuff coming around this in the future. There's councils, so
ins TA has got their house in order a bit.
That's central government councils though, like seriously charging one thousand
or five thousand bucks for temporary traffic management to run
a parade. Yep, that stuff's nuts.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
You know we're going to stop that.

Speaker 16 (38:47):
Well watch the space don't care.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
So thank you very much. I appreciate your ka and
go well at the Music Awards the looking for top Yeah,
I hope, I hope somebody decent wins. I don't know
who you're rooting for. That's Chris Bishop, Minister for RMA.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Reform than together do for Sea Alan.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Fonterra as another business absolutely smashing it out of the
park at the moment. As you will know, profit for
the last nine months is up eleven percent, so they're
now recording more than a billion. It's looking good for
the upcoming season again. So this season it was ten
dollars per kilogram of milk solids. The forecast is again
for the next season ten dollars per kilogram of milk solids.
That having said this, though, the CEO, Miles Hurrell has

(39:25):
acknowledged that the price of butter is winding you up right,
So it's absolutely bringing money into the country, but it
is winding you up that you have to pay for
it as well. He's blamed it on the rising international prices.
If they're paying it, we have to pay it, which
is true. We'll talk to Jamie McKay about it. He'll
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Speaker 4 (40:47):
What ever do for c Ellen who's gone little bit
like this?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Ah seventeen past five and that's of course Lord's new
single just dropped. It's the second one just dropped one
hour and seventeen minutes ago. Trouble is, some Kiwi fans
feel that Lord might be playing a little too hard
to get with the Kiwis because just ninety six of
the Kiwi fans got led into her very exclusive listening
party and the toilets at the Auckland Central YMCA. Our

(41:13):
producer Sam Robinson was one of the hundreds dying to
get him, which is absolutely not able to an ease
with me. Now, Hi Sam, Hi, Heather.

Speaker 20 (41:21):
You know, Bishop was just sitting in the seat, and
I think this is a really great follow up to that.
You know, it's a really great It flows on those.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Because both of you are music enthusiasts so much for
Sea and from the Hut, Yeah, and both from the Hut.
There you go. Did she use this toilet gig as
part of her video like she did with the thing
that she did in New York.

Speaker 20 (41:39):
No, So there was a lot of confusion about what
was going to happen with this toilet gag. I mean
all day people were by people, I mean me were
running around trying to find out what was happening and
where there were cameras that were in the cubicles though,
so something might come of that footage. And she did
go live on Instagram live, but I just watched the
video and can confirm no, no, no footage, Ye, no

(42:01):
footage on the bathroom.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
You were telling me that the guy who organizes these
things is a bit of like a wonder kid.

Speaker 8 (42:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (42:07):
So his name is Terrence O'Connor. He is the mastermind
behind Bratt Summer from last year, if anyone will remember.
And he's also he's around, He's on Tektalk. You've probably
seen him if if you're scrolling enough, and he is
a marketing genius. Gen Z kind of gets all these
crowds out, and I think that's kind of what last
night was, is a way to kind of announce that track.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
So something about this will go viral.

Speaker 8 (42:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Hun, So you're telling me that the YMCA Vincent Street
toilets are going to be seen worldwide.

Speaker 20 (42:35):
They already have been. Last night, Lord went live to
premiere some of some of those new songs on her
Instagram and I think ten thousand people were listening, yeah,
and watching those beautiful, those beautiful toilets.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I'm getting a lot of texts from people who hate
on Lord. Now is this because Lord, are we doing
the crowded house thing to Lord right now where she's
our child so we're hyping her too heavily? Or are
they not understand that she's a big deal globally?

Speaker 20 (43:01):
We new Zealand is a great place to live when
you don't have someone complaining about tall poppy syndrome in
your ear. But I do think there is a case
of tall poppy syndrome when it comes to Lord. I
think we really love to claim our artists, and when
they don't always come back and give us the best
thing first, we tend to be a bit of hateful
and I bet if I got in last night, we
would be having a completely different conversation.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Shure, Now you misunderstand me. The texts are like, Lord
is overrated, She's not that great, her music sucks that
kind of thing.

Speaker 20 (43:28):
Look, I mean she is definitely for the audience she
is for, and I am that prime audience. I think
a lot of people my age at that prime audience.
If you were fourteen when Pure Heroin came out, when
that first album dropped, you're hoped for life. There is
no way you're getting off that train, no matter what.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
It was a moment, wasn't it. Hey, So Chris Bishop
was just saying he's off to the Music Awards tonight.
Is Lord going to be there?

Speaker 20 (43:50):
Well, the roma is that Lord is going to be there.
She's been nominated for Single of the Year for her
remix of Charlie Xx's Girl. So confusing and yeah, this
inflicting reports. I think she'll be there. Apparently she told
people in the bathrooms last night that she will, and
that's actually what she's come back to New Zealand for.
So the question is whether she'll perform tonight.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Okay, she did she explain why she's not performing here
on her tour at all. Look, I think that may
have been about isn't it Sam?

Speaker 20 (44:17):
I don't think so. I think the way tours roll
out nowadays, they need to see how those tickets sell.
And I'll tell you Solar Power Tour did not sell
super well overseas, so I think maybe the label are
just holding back, waiting to announce those dates until they
see how well America is selling. But with the way
that this album is being publicized and latched onto, I
think we're going to have no trouble selling out any venue.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
And you said, and have you got over missing out
on the toilet gig No.

Speaker 20 (44:40):
But if Lauda is listening, she is welcome to invite
me to any other private listening parties.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
I think she's listening to news radio while she's putting
her face on.

Speaker 20 (44:50):
Isn't listening to you?

Speaker 14 (44:51):
Right?

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Sam? That's exactly what she says, having a little bit
of a kickback and just getting some other and spo,
isn't she while she puts her face.

Speaker 20 (44:57):
Yeah, there's inspiration from everywhere, and you inspire me every day.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Lord, honestly, listen to this nonsense out of this kid's mouth.
I have to listen to this crap all day. Okay, Sam,
thanks very much, Off you go, then, Sam Robinson News
doorgs he'd beat producer five twenty one.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Informed insight into today's issues. It's hither duplicy ellan drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks that'd
be here.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
The Lord got political. That's the reason that people don't
like her. Thank you, Mark five twenty four. Now I
worry that we have got a case of empty talk
from this government on the road Cones, so hear me
out on this. Okay, by now, you'll have heard about
this raised pedestrian crossing in Wayoku, which is south of Auckland.
Now that raised pedestrian crossing is supposed to cost four
hundred thousand dollars. Nearly the crossing itself only costs sixty

(45:45):
five thousand dollars. The rest of the nonsense is made
up with things like traffic management. Traffic management apparently within
just this project alone apparently sits at about one hundred
thousand dollars. Now, I don't know why that is still happening,
because Simme and Brown, when he was the Transport, declared
a war on the road cones, and he said he
was putting an end to this endless wall of cones
that you see every time someone digs a hole next

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to the road, because he was going to tell the
roading authorities that they need to change the way that
they waited the risk when they were putting the road
cones out. And yet we still see thousands of road cones,
don't we. The other day I drove down Lincoln Street
in Ponsonby. It connects Ponsby Road to Richmond Road. All
that was happening on Lincoln Street was there. There was
some chap in a tiny digger digging a hole on

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the side of the road. The digging space was no
bigger than the size of one car, maybe had a
push two cars. And yet they had coned off a
huge section of the road. They had laid out cones
in a gigantic maze so that they could create a
little funnel, a single car lane for cars to drive through.
And then on one side of this little car lane
that they made they had a chap sitting with a

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stop go sign, and on the other side they had
another chap sitting with a stop go sign. And they
were completely over complicating the situation because it was only
me using the road. Every time I was out, I
went one way, just me, came back, just me. They
didn't need that. The road is not a particularly it's
a street. It's a street, it's a residential street. It's
not particularly busy. It's wide enough for any driver to

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basically figure out how to go around the driveway and
the digger and the other driver to see all that
car is going around the digger. Let me stop. You
don't need any of the road cones, I would have thought.
So my question is why as this still happening, Because
I thought Simeon was ordering the roading authorities to stop
this road cone overkill. Two options. One, they are blatantly
ignoring him when they keep laying the road cones and

(47:31):
keep pricing those road cones into their raised pedestrian crossings.
They're just ignoring the directive. Second option, it's just hot
air from him, and nothing that he has done actually
changes anything.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Ever do for see Allen Hither.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
I used to live in California. I was surprised to
learn that the illegal migrants hardly ever qualified for any benefits.
They all had jobs. Often the jobs weren't were the
ones that the locals didn't want to do. And many
times the Americans would say that California would grind to
a halt of the illegals were deported. Paul, very good point.
We're going to talk about these kiss of the migrant
overstayers next up with Alison mcclemont, who's the lawyer dealing

(48:04):
with them. I have got so many suggestions on what
to call the Jenny Fibbs situation. Hither we could call
it Jenny dribble, Ginny's gems, Ginny's gaffes, Ginny's junk. Hither
what about gin spinhither what about fueled by gin Jinny fibbs?
For me, Heather Spinny Jinny would be a good na.

(48:25):
Actually that would be a spiny JP. I don't hate
that here. The last week on Mike's show, Jinny Anderson
concluded by saying, verbatim, this is the budget that caused
women's pay to go backwards, and that's the truth. Obviously
we know that's not the truth, So there's more where
that came from. It would appear headlines, next.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
On the iHeart app and in your car on your
drive home it's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected news dogs that'd be.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
More sorry and.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Haven't thanks.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
As well.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
One of the questions call de question really right now
in the wake of that court blocking Donald Trump's tariffs
is what does it do to the tariffs? Do the
tariff's stay in place? Do the tariffs are they suspended?
Is it all of the tariffs or just some of
the tariffs? I might be able to answer that question
later on. We're also going to talk to Don Braid
of Mainfreight, who obviously will be dealing with a lot
of this stuff, and he might have an insight into that. Incidentally,

(49:27):
they've just reported actually their results US New Zealand Asia
business profits are down, but Ossie, the Ossie business is
absolutely punching. So I'll talk us through it after six o'clock.
The huddle is with us very shortly right now. It's
twenty four away from six now. There are calls to
grant amnesty to New Zealand born teenagers who are technically
illegal overstayers. Birthright citizenship was outlawed in two thousand and six,

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and kids who have been born to overstayers since that
date are about to turn eighteen. But the trouble is
turning eighteen when you're an overstayer means you can't study
any further means you can't work. So what do they do?
Aliston mcclimont is an immigration immigration lawyer representing a bunch
of these cases and is with us now Alistair, Hello,
Hi Heather, how are you well? Thanks mate? How many
of these kids are there?

Speaker 13 (50:11):
It's impossible to know because when kids birth are registered,
you don't have to put down the parents' immigration status,
so there is absolutely no way statistically we can know
how many children are out there, apart from anecdotal reports
that there may be you know, in.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
The hundreds, hundreds rather than thousands.

Speaker 13 (50:27):
It's really difficult to say. You can really only estimate.
It's really difficult. There is no statistical way that we
can actually tell what are their.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Parents up to. Are their parents on the benefit, are
they working, are they paying taxes? Is it under the table?
What's going on?

Speaker 13 (50:40):
They're all working. Some of them are actually just normal
tax paying, you know, workers like everybody else. Because IOD
doesn't share the information of immigration zealance, so there's no
harm in getting a job and paying a tax. So
they're the ones who are picking our fruits and vegetables
and cleaning our offices and working their butts off to
try and you know, provide for their families just like

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everyone else.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Now, if we give the kids amnesty, we have to
give the parents amnesty, don't they don't.

Speaker 13 (51:08):
We Well, I'm advocating for the children and this one.
You know, sometimes the parents just want a future for
their children. And a lot of times, you know, that's
the reason why a lot of people might grate to
this country, because they want to bet a future for
their kids.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Alistair, what child is going to come forward and say, hey, look,
I am an overstayer, technically I need amnesty. If they
know that that risks their parents' status and the parents
might be deported.

Speaker 13 (51:32):
Well, it doesn't necessarily mean mean that at all. I
mean if you basically grant the kids residency, it doesn't
mean anything for the parents. The parents' cases will be
considered on a case by case basis. How do they
become an oversayer? What steps have they taken? Do they
have a criminal background, are they well settled in this country.
Everything's done on a case by case basis. It's just
for the kids. They are innocent victims and they are

(51:55):
extremely vulnerable, so they really need to be separated from
adult to make conscious decisions to remain in a country unlawfully.
These kids don't make those conscious decisions. They're just born.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Are these people generally law abiding other than obviously being overstayers?
Are they generally law abiding or have they brushed up
against the law in other ways?

Speaker 13 (52:16):
Immigration? New Zealand prioritize the deportation of overstayers who criminally offend.
Quite often they'll go to the courts and sort of
deportation orders when they come up from the courts. The
fact that these the parents of these kids have been
here for twenty five years. Tells you that they do
not have any criminal offending.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Alistair, thank you for your time. I appreciated Alista mcclemont,
the immigration lawyer for a bunch of these kids, Heather.
Yesterday there were two guys doing touch ups to the
pedestrian bridge over State Highway fifty nine at Gray's Road
and portadur heapes of cones, two utes with flashing signs,
four other large trucks blocking a lane north and southbound,

(52:55):
two painters, six vehicles and drivers. Go figure here the
what's going on with the traffic management? Are the NZTA
rules for traffic control? We have been working in a
dead end street with has five houses, stop go control
was insisted on by counsel to obey the Honestly, in
a colder sack with five houses, stop go control was

(53:18):
insisted on by council to obey the rules. Fulton, Hogan,
Downers and Fletchers just love the ottbs that we need
to do to work on the road. Thank you, Derek.
Thank you. Keep those texts, covetant, keep those texts rolling in.
I love her in These yarns just makes me feel
more religious about this stuff. Get rid of the road
Cones twenty away from six the.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real d find you
all one of a kind?

Speaker 3 (53:43):
David Farrak can we bloging? Curi Opolster and Mike Monroe,
former chief of staff to Just and Adern?

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Hell?

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Are you two?

Speaker 16 (53:49):
Oh goodat Heather?

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Listeners, Are either of you feeling the vibes on the
road Cones as well?

Speaker 9 (53:54):
Or is it just me?

Speaker 16 (53:57):
I don't think it's just you. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Oh that sounded like you were letting me down gently, David.
I don't think it's just you, but probably not to
the extent that you are. Come on, don't you get
don't you get educated? We can see two painters and six.

Speaker 21 (54:10):
Trip today they closed off entire laying with police car
and truck and from what I could tell was there
was a broken bottle there and someone was sweeping out
with a brush, pin and shovel, and you definitely needed
sub sort of traffic management. But it just seemed out
as always way over the top for what was a

(54:32):
ten second job.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Unbelievable. Unbelievable, Mike, do we need to give these kids
who are born to overstayers who now themselves now find
themselves without actually the ability to be here. Do we
need to give them an amnesty?

Speaker 4 (54:45):
Yes?

Speaker 23 (54:45):
I think we do have to give them an amnesty
that these kids have. These kids have grown up stateless
and it's really sort of no fault of their own.
You know, they were born here. It's the only place
they know. Their lives have been shaped by this country.
In your council punishing them for some error that their
parents made a long time ago. And I think if

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we start sort of picking on these kids and doing
the wrong thing here, it's another stain on our reputation
as a He's a good global player and a good
global citizen.

Speaker 6 (55:16):
What do you think, David, I'll go the other way,
because the long term issue is it's a terrible policy
to say if you come to New Zealand and illegally stay,
but mentioned.

Speaker 21 (55:29):
The kids here, the kids get a citizenship. It seems
all the wrong signals.

Speaker 16 (55:34):
You see.

Speaker 21 (55:35):
The massive problems in the US about the solution is
it shouldn't take fifteen years to deport overstairs so that
the kids have then grown up there.

Speaker 16 (55:44):
All their life.

Speaker 21 (55:44):
Now there is a case for the current one just like, Yo,
we've had immigration amnesties from time to time when you
recognize you haven't had it right in the past where
you might do a one off at the show. But
going forward, I think we should be very clear that
are illegal immigrants who have children New Zealand don't get

(56:06):
automatic citizenship.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Okay, I agree with you that you don't want to
set a precedent. However, David, it's hardly as if we
have a massive problem with illegal immigrants. And we were
talking about in the last eighteen what nineteen years, we're
talking about maybe hundreds of kids, aren't we And we've
invested a whole lot of money into these kids, We've
educated them, we've given them free health care and all
that stuff. So surely actually it's in our best interests

(56:28):
to make use of them as workers.

Speaker 21 (56:31):
Well they potentially if they have valuable skills, you can
of course get work visas. Anyway, the solution again isn't
that they live here illegally for fifteen years. But yeah, Locke,
you show up of humanity for those who are currently there.
But if we change the law to say children of
illegal immigrants get what they have in the US or

(56:53):
harmaic birthright citizenship. I think we would have a lot
more illegal immigration because come for a holiday, over stay
two months and being your kids are citizens.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Why, by the way, Mike, did Helen Clark do this?
Because it feels out of step with the labor government.

Speaker 23 (57:13):
I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Are you doing a Christian Hawks be on us? And
you're like, oh, I just happen a couple of months ago.
I can't remember that.

Speaker 13 (57:19):
That's right.

Speaker 23 (57:20):
Yeah, I know it's anespathetic. When was the two thousand
and yeah, yeah, okay, twenty years. Look, really, I really can't.
I can't call what the state of play was at
the time with over stays and how big an issue
it was, because you know, I'm sure the policy was
in reaction to some you know, to some issue with

(57:41):
overstays and some data showing that it was a problem.
I just can't call what the details enough agree with you.
It's an unlabour thing to do.

Speaker 13 (57:48):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
It's it's only fair enough that we give you a
bit of a pass. It has been twenty years. We'll
take a break come back. Shortly sixteen sixteen away from sixty.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
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Speaker 3 (58:04):
Back with the huddle, David Farrah, Mike win rode, David,
what did you think of Jenny Anderson saying that none
of the New Zealand verst has never been around the
cabinet table.

Speaker 21 (58:12):
It was very bizarre because a they were around the
cabinet table, not just in the last government. They were
around the cabinet table and the first National New Zealand
First Coalition and Jim Anderson was round the cabinet table
and depth keep Home minister for the entire nine years
of the Clark Game. The ten MMP governments, you've had

(58:33):
people from minor parties around the cabinet table in six
out of ten.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Okay, So Mike, can you explain what's going on with Jinny?

Speaker 23 (58:43):
Oh no, Look I can't. It was a real brain fade.

Speaker 16 (58:45):
It really was.

Speaker 23 (58:46):
Maybe she had a stressful ride into work this morning
on a and you know she just wasn't thinking straight.
Like like David says, right from the beginning, we've had
coalition of partners in cabinet, right from the fi that
Jim Bolder made Whinston Peters's treasurer back in nineteen ninety six.
And there's a whole list of the medicine. So look, yeah,
a brain fade and there's really no explanation I can provide, David.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
I don't want to be too unkind to Jinny because look,
we all make mistakes and we say stupid stuff and
we feel a bit stink, And she'll be feeling a
bit stink right now. Is everybody's laughing at her? But
she's not the strongest, is she? So why do they
keep putting her up and giving her good portfolios?

Speaker 13 (59:27):
Well?

Speaker 21 (59:31):
I tried to be a bit tied to you when
I say, you have to look at the rest of
the team. See you've got The reality is she's a
former Minister of Justice, Minister of Police et sect. She's
often very good communicator, but she does every three to
four months she says something just a bit horrendous. Are

(59:53):
you know there was one with Mark Minchell. It's totally
backfired on her, etc.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
Everyone makes when.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
People was that, yeah, ye tell me, Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:00:09):
Do you learn from you my stakes?

Speaker 21 (01:00:10):
Do you become more cautious when you're speaking to the
media and if you're not sure about something, say, I'll
just have to check that. I don't think we're seeing
those learnings coming through.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yeah, I think you might be right. Hey, now, Mike,
what's gone on? Do you think with Elon Musk and
the Dawn?

Speaker 23 (01:00:27):
Well, look, Elon Musk has you don't become the world's
richest person by dancing to someone else's tune. And I think,
you know, Musk has worked out that that this man
is a bit of a fraud. He's a bully, he's
a liar, he's conceited, and so he's probably had enough. Look, look,

(01:00:48):
it's no surprise. During during the first Trump presidency, the
turnover rates were astronomical. I think each year. I saw
some data that show that something like seventy eighty ninety
percent was the norm for the turn Yeah, each year,
and for most presidents is down in the thirty forty
percent area. So, you know, this guy Trump is difficult
to work with. He can only be tolerated for so long.

(01:01:09):
And Musk has got better things to do. He's he's
you know, he's got an empire to run, and as
I say, he's not going to sit around dancing to
someone else's tune.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Yeah, is it?

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
I mean, David, when you look at this is it
kind of interesting timing because it is at the end
of the period that he's entitled to occupy that job
for being one hundred and thirty days. But then on
the way out he starts criticizing Trump, Trump and the
one big beautiful Bill and stuff like that. What's going
on here? Do you reckon? Is it just the end
of his time or is actually a breakdown?

Speaker 16 (01:01:38):
Totally expected.

Speaker 21 (01:01:39):
I thought he'd last ninety hundred days and he lasts
one hundred and twenty. They actually had prediction markets on
how long he would last, and most people thought it
would be around three months, because, as Mike said, is
when you're useful to Trump, you go and you do
some stuff.

Speaker 16 (01:01:56):
You take the heat, but then Trump will listen to
someone else.

Speaker 21 (01:01:59):
The next day. And he just got to a point
where it's like, Okay, I've achieved a wee back here,
but now I've got beata things to do. I don't
think it's an angry split with Trump, but I think
it just shows he's his own person and he actually
has some pretty big companies to run.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
Yeah, some very important ones. Hey guys, thank you appreciated
the pair of you. David Farraki, we blogging curier poster,
Mike Munroe, former Chief of Staff to just Sindern. And
by the way, Texas birthright citizenship ending, which happened in
two thousand and six, was part of Labour's coalition deal
with New Zealand First, So it'll be interesting to see
if they can actually unwind it. Because who's in government
again this time? It's right, who's in government again this time?

(01:02:38):
Jinny now same as last time, New Zealand First, nine
away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Don Braid, main freight boss is going to be with
us after six o'clock. Look, okay, On the tariffs, there
are questions and everybody's trying to figure out exactly how
this is actually going to work and whether it actually
means all of the tariffs are off or whether the
tariffs are still there, and there'll be there'll be there
will be Ministry of Foreign Affairs wonks just pouring over
this detail right now. But it seems on early reporting

(01:03:14):
that it appears that all of the tariffs that's been
slapped the block is on the tariffs that have been
slapped on the trading partner. So China Mexico, Canada, ourselves,
that ten percent one that's been blocked. That is what
has been stopped. Is that kind of Trump just unilaterally
putting tariffs on the whole wide world. The other tariffs
that he's placed on specific things like foreign steel or

(01:03:34):
aluminium or auto's or whatever, they will continue because they
have been used, they've been invoked under a different law.
So fingers crossed, maybe the tariff thing is over. And
and David Axelrod, who used to work for President Obama,
has made the point that this is actually perhaps not
a black eye like a lot of people will look
at this as say, it's a black guy for Donald Trump,

(01:03:55):
he can't do what he wants to do. But David
Axelrod reckons, actually, maybe this is the break that dune
Trump needs to be able to get out of the
tariffs thing, because he doesn't actually want to do the
tariffs thing because actually what he wants is a fizzing
economy and this is doing quite the opposite. It's not
going to give him the fizzing economy. So maybe he's
got what he wants, which is that he's been seen
to try to do something, and now he can get
out of it. On Elon Musk as well. There was

(01:04:18):
a really good article in the Wall Street Journal or
the Washington Post, one of those two I can't quite
remember which is in the papers here in New Zealand
at the weekend, basically suggesting that what's happened, in part
to Muscers is she just had a guts full of politics,
seemed like a nice idea, got into it. Not as
fun as he thought, bit of blow like, way too
much blowback for his companies, more than he expected. And

(01:04:40):
you can kind of see like it seems to have
unraveled really quickly for him because as many as recently
as just a few weeks ago, he was still talking
about that pack that he'd set up, the America Pack,
being heavily involved in the twenty twenty six mid term
elections and also weighing in on the district attorney races
across the country and all kinds of stuff, spending money

(01:05:00):
and blah blah blah. And now he's just decided has
any in recent just in recent days, he's decided that's
he's basically spent all the money he wants to and
he doesn't want to spend that much anymore. And he's
kind of achieved his goals. So he is very quickly
falling out of love with politics, it would seem. Anyway.
We'll have a chat to Don Braid see if he
has any insight as to what happens with the tariffs.

(01:05:20):
The Green Parrot that haunt famously a haunt of Winston
Peters I read today has not sold. I don't know
if you realize this, but the Green Parrot corner of
Taranaki and the other funny little street in Wellington has
been on the market, been for sale for two years
and the owners who've had it for a very very
long time have decided to pull it off the market

(01:05:41):
because they say they haven't found an appropriate buy it,
buy it for it, and so that's still going to
be running it now. This place is an icon, right
you'll know it. It's been around since nineteen twenty six,
so it's coming up one hundred years very shortly. But
can I suggest that their pricing is a little out
of whack because they've reached their menus. Pleased to see,
but I had a quick zoom bride in to have

(01:06:02):
a look at the prices. Phill at Steak at the
Green Parrot fifty five dollars, the Sirloin's steak fifty dollars,
Wiener Schnitzel forty two dollars. There's price pricing for just
a little you know, like a little book with a
little crummy thing on the side like that. You just
get that out of the freezer, can't you. That's pricey.

(01:06:25):
Souvlaki kabab forty two dollars. Forty two dollars for a
kebab is a big price, I would venture anyway. I
just wonder if maybe, because that was always my complaint
about the Green Parrot was it had like Chinese restaurant vibes,
but high end bistro prices, and I don't know that
those two things go together.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
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Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Evening coming up in the next hour. We've got Jamie
mckaye talking us through Fonterra, We've got Sam Dickie talking
us through the tariffs, and we've got Enda Brady talking
us through everything out of the UK. Right now, it's
seven past six now. Logistics Company Mainfreight has posted a
pretty solid result, but it's facing the headwinds of international uncertainty.
Annual net profit was up nearly a third on the
previous year. Profits were down in Asia, America and New Zealand.

(01:07:22):
On the upside, though, Australia is turning out to be
a bit of a winner. Don Braid is the general
manager of main Freighting with.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Us now, Hey Don, Hey, Heather, who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
I'm very well, thank you? What is going on in Australia?

Speaker 7 (01:07:34):
I was taking us twenty eight years to get there,
and some of the media and some of the analyst
community thought that we'd bought a dog back in nineteen
ninety eight. Well, the dog's barking. It's good.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
It hasn't taken you that long to turn it around, though,
has it?

Speaker 7 (01:07:49):
No, not at all, But you know, it's come of
age and it's now even though New Zealand continues to
produce a really good profit for us and at high margin,
just as a consequence of the size of the market
and our presence and the great job that our people
have done in Australia where it's now our biggest revenue

(01:08:10):
and profit maker.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Fantastic stuff now have you had a chance to look
at what this court ruling means for the tariffs.

Speaker 7 (01:08:17):
Oh, I'm the same as the court ruling about the
migrants that have been re exported or whatever I suggest,
and the Harvard rules. Who knows what would happen. The
key for us is that we focus on business and
what that means for our customers, and we'll do whatever

(01:08:38):
we can to keep the supply chains open for them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
What do you think, I mean, do your customers just
act as if like do they just assume the tariffs
are still on and keep going in the same kind
of vein?

Speaker 15 (01:08:49):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
No, interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
I've just come back from a week of sales up
there into the US and Canada, and you know, there's
a really a lot of question marks, a lot of
indecision for both importers, particularly in America, and certainly a
bit of anger and independence forming in the Canadian business market.

(01:09:12):
But I think they'll take advantage, or they are taking
advantage of the pores in tariffs. We're seeing bookings for June,
you know, up fifty to eighty odd percent, and as
a consequence, the shipping rates are moving up as well.
But they are moving as much stock as they possibly
can get their hands on, because they are uncertain as

(01:09:34):
to what will happen when the you know, moratorium on
the tariffs is up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Okay, so what just trying to fill up those warehouses.
Well they've got the chance.

Speaker 7 (01:09:42):
Yeah, well whatever, Well they've got the small tariff in place,
they're better to bring the product in. But there's a
lot of indecision as to what will happen post the
tariff deadline.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
I mean, this could backfire, couldn't it, because they might
have been they might be moving really fast to try
to fill the warehouses up at the moment and all
of a sudden the tariffs are off all together. Potentially.

Speaker 15 (01:10:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:10:03):
But of course, in when the tariffs came on on
whatever you call it, Liberation Day, April and May saw
a lot of bookings halted. So you know, nothing moved
during April. Well it's wrong for me to say nothing,
but reduced tonnagees moved in April and May, and they're
trying to make up ground during June and July.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Yeah, don listen. I always appreciate your thoughts on politics
here in New Zealand. What did you make Why are
you laughing?

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
John?

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Because not much?

Speaker 7 (01:10:35):
It was all good.

Speaker 24 (01:10:36):
I mean, we had some inane questions from analysts today
as we've presented our year end, asking if the twenty
percent was an encouragement to open.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
More cross stocks and warehouses, and you know, I think
that's a mistake. I mean, let's not forget that the government,
through it took the text the depreciation on buildings off
in March of last year, which actually cost us a
lot of money in terms of that net profit. And
just for your records, you know that was an increase

(01:11:09):
in net profit, but that was after abnormals of last year.
It's the profit before text that really matters. So I
don't know that twenty percent didn't mean much for us.
We'll get on and do what we've got to do anyway. Otherwise,
I don't know. There wasn't much other highlights in.

Speaker 16 (01:11:24):
It, was it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I mean, look, I don't want to be I don't
always want to be bummed out about these guys and
bumming people out about them. But I can't see a vision.
Do you see a vision for the economy from this
coalition government?

Speaker 7 (01:11:35):
Well, they keep talking about that growth vision and that's
a good thing. And I think that as us in
business have got to continue to do that. We've I mean,
you know, talking about an export lead recovery, and maybe
that is, but it's at the big end of towns,
in the apples, it's in.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
The dairy, and it's in the kiwi fruit.

Speaker 7 (01:11:54):
It's not in the normal everyday export who is working
hard to get their products off shore. We're not seeing
those people benefiting at all. So there is some indecision
around that global economy. I just like them to get
things done. I mean, come back to your comment about
the road cones earlier, I mean, why don't they just

(01:12:15):
get that sorted? Why doesn't Simmy and Brown make your
decision and get them bad?

Speaker 8 (01:12:20):
But that hasn't happened, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Exactly, thank you. There's too much announcing and rennouncing and
re announcing and re announcing, and we're sitting here waiting
for the thing to happen. Don, as always, I love
chatting to you. Look after yourself, Don Braid, Main Freight
General Manager, Geez. The road cones here the last week
and Upper Hut I counted one hundred road cones and
a set of temporary traffic lights over about forty meters
to patch a piece of backstreet to patch a water

(01:12:43):
toby repair. It's absolutely taking the piss, thank you higher,
isn't it just? I mean, honestly, this makes you cross,
doesn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Do you remember a couple of years ago we had
the Air New Zealand plane that do you remember the
plane that drifted off the runway and it smashed into
six runway lights and it blew a tire and it
broke some of its fuse lage or something like that. Anyway,
it was a bit of one of those ones went
off the runway. It was coming in from the Melbourne.
It was a bit it was a bit stormy, but
generally they can handle a bit of a And remember
they said, oh the runway was weeat and We're like, oh,

(01:13:14):
how unusual. Anyway, whatever, We just got the Transport Accident
Investigation Commission report into what went wrong and you know,
I'm not gonna believe it. It's autopilots again, I mean,
how many autopilots, Like what is going wrong with autopilot?
Remember the autopilot was the thing that took the ferry

(01:13:34):
and beached it in the sounds. The autopilot was why
the naval vessels sunk in some or now the autopilot.
What are we doing wrong with autopilot? Anyway? Apparently what
happened is the actual human pilot was they were coming
into land and the pilot was like, look better, turn
off the autopilot. Turned off the autopilot too late, which
means the pilot didn't have enough time to then, you know,

(01:13:56):
manually make sure that the aircraft's flight path was correct
before landing. Anyway, Look, three is a pattern, right, I'm
just saying three is a pattern. New Zealand. Come on now,
we've been doing autopilot for a while, just to have
a little think about it. Let's try to do a
bit better because it's a lot now, isn't It's getting

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Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Hither the autopilots are now demanding pay equity, Well why not,
We're relying on them so much. Hither the Green Parrot
is an institution. It's pricy, yes, but the meals are massive,
and you get a complimentary loaf of cheap, fresh white
bread and a side of butter. They have to claw
back of the butter the cost of the butter. Somehow,
that is a fair point that you make. I mean,
I was at cheap loaf of white bread. I thought,

(01:15:59):
Jesus is you're struggling to string the argument together here.
But then you hit me with the butter price, and
I thought, Jesus, I wonder that they're only charging you
fifty five dollars for that stake. Why not eighty given
the price of butter. Now, look, this is a little
bit heavy what I want to talk to you about,
but I think we need to talk about this. And

(01:16:20):
I have deliberately left this until the children are hopefully
not in the car with you, so we can have
a little chat about this, because I think this is
an adult conversation that clearly needs to happen. There is
a chap called Rob Berg who is the president of
the Jewish National Fund New Zealand, and he's just written
an editorial in the Papers which was published today and
it has the subject line jew hatred is becoming acceptable

(01:16:43):
and what he's basically referring to is everything that's happening
at the moment around the world to Jewish people. Now
there is a distinction, and I that I even have
to make this distinction is kind of remarkable, But there
is a distinction between Jewish people and the state of Israel. Right,
not talking about the state of Israel. Here, we are
talking about Jewish people. He's referred to everything that's happening

(01:17:05):
to Jewish people at the moment. You got the gunning
down of the embassy couple in Washington, DC. Bunch of
stuff that's going on. But also, and in particular, the
graffiti the other day in Wellington's ro Valley. I don't
know if you saw this, but when I saw it,
I was shocked. On the side of the road on
a big wall, you know how they have like walls
and weird stuff going on in Wellington. On the side

(01:17:25):
of the wall, somebody had written in yellow paint. I
hated Jews before it was cool. I saw that the
other day in the papast I thought, what the hell
is going on here? I thought, wait for it, where's
the outrage? Nothing? Just shrugged off right, It's just like
it's totally cool now apparently to hate Jewish people and
and in fact, you want to sort of burnish your credentials,

(01:17:47):
don't you as hating them before everybody else started hating them?
He wrote, we have been harrised, our kids abused, and
due hatred is once again becoming acceptable in academia, in
the unions, and in politics. It seems to be worse
than anywhere else. Discussion of Israel and its ongoing responses
is fine, but fanning the flames of anti Semitism is not.

Speaker 7 (01:18:06):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
I'm glad that he has written that, and I agree
with what he's had to say there, because I was
horrified when I read that graffiti. What I want you
to think about, if you have a minute, and if
you care about this, just think about how did we
get to a place where it is acceptable to hate
Jewish people publicly Jewish people specifically, because for a very
very long time they were very much off limits because

(01:18:27):
of what had happened in the nineteen thirties and nineteen
forties and in preceding decades to Jewish people right for
a while, they were like, very very verboltan, you do
not make jokes about Jewish people. It's now flipped completely.
But also imagine that that was written about any other
ethnicity and tell me that the media and society in
general would have just shrugged it off like that. I
just think we have a little bit of thinking to do.

(01:18:49):
And maybe if we are the ones seeing this happen
but are calling out to do, do you not think
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Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Twenty four past sext Jamie McKay, Host of the Countries
with US JME got I hear that how good is Fonterra?

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Pretty damn good, especially if you're a Fonterra farmer. Shareholder's
about ten thousand of them around the country, and I
reckon they'll be turning up in Hamilton Heather in a
couple of weeks time and possibly spending up large, especially
when you consider the new tax incentive scheme put in
place in the budget by the government. But getting back
to Fonterra today, look, ten dollars is locked and loaded.

(01:19:32):
That's the worst world's worst secret for this season, which
we're going to finish on what Saturday night Sunday morning.
The really interesting number and the most eagerly awaited number
from their Q three update today was the forecast opening
price for the twenty five twenty sixth season, and they
came in at ten dollars, which was probably, I think
above market expectation. Their range is quite wide. They've gone

(01:19:56):
eight dollars to eleven dollars. Midpoint of that would obviously
be nine fifty. But Miles Hurrell saying, look, we see
really positive signs despite everything that's happening in the world
geo politically out there. So if dairy farmers can get
ten dollars two years in a row, that's great for them.
It's great for the rural economy, and it's great for
New Zealand's economy because they are our biggest business. The

(01:20:18):
other numbers out there, Heather, the dividend, I mean, they
get the milk price that's ten bucks. What will the
dividend be while judging on what Miles Hurrell was saying
on my show that it could be up around fifty cents,
And I looked at the share price today, Heather, it
closed at four dollars sixty four. So if you get
a fifty cent yield on that, that's a fifty cent dividend.

(01:20:40):
Should I say that's an eleven percent year old? Really interesting?
And the other one out there that I threw at
Miles Hurrell and he kind of duckted to cover a
wee bit. Wouldn't put a number on it. Obviously it's
too early. But when they flag off the consumer brand's
business that's going to be it looks like quite a
wind for for Fonterra shareholders. They might get back as
much as two dollars per share. So at four dollars

(01:21:03):
sixty four take away two dollars the shares don't know
them much, but do remember, Heather, a few years ago
they were at six bucks, So some people who bought
on a high I have got a weep bit of
catching up today.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Yeah, Parentop, what are you buying at Peel Days?

Speaker 20 (01:21:17):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Nothing really. I was going to say a Queen Street farmer, Heather,
but that's not quite right. I'm a George Street farmer
here in Dunedin. So now look, I literally turn up there,
do my show, do my interviews, do the client stuff
and then walk out. The only thing I spend in
Hamilton is probably in a bar later on the evening.

(01:21:40):
It's a very social event.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
How good, Jamie thank you as always, it's wonderful to
talk to you.

Speaker 7 (01:21:44):
Go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
Well, it's Jamie McKay, Host of the Country. Hey, do
you remember actually I need your help with this answer
came now. The reason I'm coming to you is not
because you're the only male in the team in the
studio at the moment. Therefore you like biologically to stand
technology better than the women.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Right.

Speaker 9 (01:22:02):
Oh, I was going to repeat that from a s
Is it possible for your.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Phone to turn itself onto silent mode?

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Turn itself?

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
Can I just turn itself onto somethe So the.

Speaker 9 (01:22:13):
Thing is, I've only ever used a galaxy, so I
don't know whether Apple has some sort of magic special
thing where it's which is itself?

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Does it happen to you German? Italy happened to Okay,
so thank you. Do you remember that big fire that
happened to he throw a couple of months back that
shut the airport for hours and all the planes were
disrupted and stuff. Oh it turns out no one could
get hold of the chief executive to handle it because
he was asleep and his phone was on silent right,
which is sort of like I mean, you'll be like, well,

(01:22:40):
fair enough, the man needs sleep, but the excuses after
an internal inquiry found that the chief executive was absent
from the early decisions made in response to the crisis
because his phone had quote gone into silent mode without
him being aware it had done so, and he was
asleep at the time.

Speaker 9 (01:22:57):
Oh so someone else put it on silent.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Pull another one, but they bought it. They're going along
with the with them. Oh, come off it, guys. If
he can't work his phone, I don't have confidence in
him working the heath throw do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
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Speaker 8 (01:23:27):
Be tell't you be.

Speaker 12 (01:23:34):
America?

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Right into Bradies with us out of the UK and
ten minutes time. Hither many texts like this Hither. Actually,
the iPhone does go into silent model by itself. If
you have a recurring sleep time sett in your phone,
which is under the health app. Thank you, KEM. I
use it to record my sleep time and my alarm
in the morning. It's linked my eye watch, So in
a nutshell, it's completely reasonable explanation. Hang on, attack though,

(01:23:59):
did you think I didn't know that that can happen?
I use that thing too, But hang on a take,
that's not the problem. That is you set that up
to do that you set That's still your choice, isn't it,
Because Cam you go, I want to go. I want
you to go into sleep mode at nine pm and
wake me up at four am because I'm a high achiever, right,
So that's you've set that up. He was all like, oh,

(01:24:22):
I just lay down and went to sleep on my
phone by itself, went into sleep mode. Come off at
By the way, Lord's turned up at the AMAS. She's
at the Alts here or Music Awards and is absolutely go.
People are just going to fizz at the big one
of one of the big stars being there. So yeay
for everybody who's there, including Chris Bishop officely twenty three
away from seven.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
Do for Cellen.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
More uncertainty obviously around Donald Trump's tariff's water repeating headline.
A federal trade court in the US is today blocked
his tariffs on nearly every country in the world. Sam
Dickey from Fisher Funds has actually just come back from
a few weeks in the US and is with us
a sam.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
So what do you know?

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
I mean, now the tariff's off completely, Now I will
back down to zero. What's going on?

Speaker 10 (01:25:04):
Definitely a stick in the spokes of Trump's tariff plan,
and the market liked it a little bit, so stop
market was up about one percent. But remember there was
a strong and video result after market as well, so
in the US dollar rallied a little bit. I mean,
the White House appealed. If it goes all the way
to the Supreme Court, who knows there is a conservative majority.
I just think it's another headline whipsaw.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
So at the moment, do we assume do we proceed
as if, like from New Zealand's perspective, do you think
we proceed as if we're still got the ten percent
on us?

Speaker 16 (01:25:33):
I think so. I think that's what I mean. That's
the feedback from that.

Speaker 10 (01:25:36):
A lot of companies we got over there is they're
proceeding as though there's going to be this uncertainty will
last for months and there will be tariffs at least
at the headline rate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
Okay, what are the people on the ground thinking about
about this?

Speaker 10 (01:25:52):
There was a huge narrative shift while I was there
So if you remember when I first went over there,
it was back in April, and it was as simple
as these policies are unhinged. It's doing irreparable damage to
USA Inc. It's going to permanently impact our ability to
be a trusted partner of Asia in Europe, and it's

(01:26:12):
the end of US been an exceptional place to invest.
Now by the end of the trip, similar people so
this his companies, industry experts, politicians were saying, he's a
pretty smart negotiator, strong opening gambit, and he can.

Speaker 16 (01:26:25):
Expertly walk back from the brink.

Speaker 10 (01:26:26):
So it's another reminder the market is irrational from time
to time, and sentiment swings with a breeze.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
So are you telling me that people have started to
come around to the idea that maybe he's actually not
doing something stupid.

Speaker 10 (01:26:40):
Yeah, well, I think most people agree that most of
the things he's trying to do makes sense.

Speaker 16 (01:26:46):
So it makes sense to cut the fat out of
the federal government.

Speaker 10 (01:26:50):
Yeah, healthcare spinning, for example, twenty percent of GDP OECD
average nine percent is a horrific amount of waste in there,
you know, stopping people pouring across the border unchecked, that
probably makes sense. Trying to slow down the deficits and
get the outer controlled debt under control. All these things

(01:27:12):
make sense, but most people think his methods are a
non politician like and a.

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Bit of ratic.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Yeah, well that's the thing that's definitely freaking people out,
isn't it. Now Do we have any handle just yet
on what the actual impact is going to be on
global growth, on what the actual impact is going to
be on inflation? Are we seeing this happen yet?

Speaker 10 (01:27:32):
So, just rewinding to mid April, so economists thought the
US economy would flirt with recession the second half, so
growth would fall to around zero point five percent. Consumers
like you and I own businesses sat on their hands
amidst the sort of extraordinary uncertainty. But being in the US,
the best real time indicators of growth are credit card
companies and rail companies.

Speaker 16 (01:27:54):
So we met MasterCard, for example, and they've.

Speaker 10 (01:27:56):
Got a brilliant bird's eye view of the US consumer,
and they were telling us that the consumer was still
solid as at early May. And then Warren Buffett said,
if he disappeared to a desert island for five years,
the key indicator he'd take to tell him the health
of the US economy would be weekly rail data, and
the rail companies we were meeting were saying that things
were still strong as at early May. And on the

(01:28:20):
inflation side, none of the companies are seen inflation show
up yet.

Speaker 16 (01:28:23):
So we don't know why that is. Is it just
because it's early days. Is it because.

Speaker 10 (01:28:28):
Importers have power over Asian suppliers and they're forcing suppliers
to eat some of the terriffs by lowering their prices.

Speaker 16 (01:28:34):
We don't know. It could be the calm before the storm,
but so far, so good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Okay, So what does this mean for investors?

Speaker 10 (01:28:42):
The water's definitely slotted from the bearish end of the
bathtub at the bullushe in. So remember April eighth, the
fear gauges we track whereas bears as they've been in
sort of quarter of a century, and there was just
that indiscriminate selling. We talked about a great buy an
opportunity for long term patient investors. Now the US market
and this is where the narrative shift came is up
twenty five percent in six weeks, so the risks are

(01:29:04):
more balanced, and I do think, regardless of this court ruling,
is still a lot of water to go under the bridge.
So I think while companies are not feeling the pinch yet,
we should keep watching the space closely.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Good stuff, Sam, It's always good to talk to you.
Talk to you again soon. Look after yourself, Sam, Dicky
Fisher Funds Heather Alas As I said, Lord, just on
the red carpet at the AMA's obvious question about last
night's toilet gig, I.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Need to ask why.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
Never asked?

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Why?

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
You know?

Speaker 12 (01:29:30):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
I can't tell you the answer, just the vibe. I'm
I'm just a rockster. I just can't answer these questions.
Why is New Zealand not on the tourist.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Okay, this is a good question, but I would go
on the fact that I have never missed a New
Zealand toy.

Speaker 11 (01:29:45):
You know, I think it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Hi, there go. How are you feeling about that? Sam? Yeah, no,
double th that's that was a thumbs up. And then
I'm la that came out of his mouth. Of course,
she's not going to leave New Zealand off what But
it's just it's just bit of just just whetting our
app a site and just making us get a bit
hungry for it. Before she gives it to us. Hey,
Paul Goldsmith on TV and Z. Just a little shout

(01:30:10):
out for Paul Goldsmith because I actually think that he's
doing not a half bad job.

Speaker 21 (01:30:14):
I mean not.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Everyone's gonna agree with me because of the you know,
the stuff that's going on with trying to pay make
the big companies pay for you know, the ads and
blah blah blah. But I think he's not doing a
half bad job, just putting a bit of pressure on
the old public public broadcasters because he's already you know,
used the budget documents to say to R and Z, Yeah,
lift your game, which you do judging by the survey
results of the audience numbers we saw the other day, Yeah,

(01:30:37):
you need to lift your game. But also has now
kind of put the pressure just gently on TV and
Z as well and said that he's expecting a dividend
in the next two to three years. He's not banking
on it immediately, but his strong challenge to the board
is that he needs to see a path to getting
back to paying a dividend. And I think we would
all like to haven't paid a dividend since what is it,
like twenty twenty two or something like that. I like

(01:30:59):
that he's putting the pressure these guys. They are taking
government money after all, aren't they or not paying it?
Sixteen away from seven.

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Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
And of course Inder Brady's still running that we're the
race that he's doing. So at thirteen to seven we
have Elizabeth Callahan, how are UK corresponding to?

Speaker 7 (01:31:26):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
Elizabeth?

Speaker 25 (01:31:28):
Hi, how are you doing?

Speaker 11 (01:31:29):
Have a very well?

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Thank you? What's the latest on the Liverpool car remming?

Speaker 25 (01:31:34):
So yes, this horrific event happened on Monday evening during
Liverpool's parade to celebrate their Premier League win, and so
police have been given more time to question the man
suspected of driving this car into a crowd of people.
They have until today, so we'll have more on that

(01:31:56):
later today, whether he's going to be charged or not.
But he has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder,
dangerous driving and driving while I'm a fit through drugs.
Now seven people are still in hospital but are said
to be in a stable condition and are covering well,
and really it is miraculous that nobody there haven't been
any fatalities from this that are around eighty people injured.

(01:32:19):
But we also know that the driver managed to get
onto this pedestrianized street, it's believed after following an ambulance
that was attending to a member of the public that
had got ill and managed to get onto this closed
off street when a barrier had been lifted up.

Speaker 3 (01:32:34):
And in the indication that this person just kind of
followed the ambo win because it's just where they found themselves, well,
that they actually were trying to get in there deliberately.

Speaker 25 (01:32:43):
Well, what we do know is that eyewitnesses has said
that there were some altercations with this car prior to
it going through this barrier, so there had been crowds
around it, some reports of people of somebody getting out
of the car, perhaps dropping somebody off, and I think

(01:33:03):
there was a lot of panic there were people around
the car before it went through this barrier. But quite
how it was allowed to get through and then that
not highlighted. There are lots of questions still that need
to be answered.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Interesting, Okay, listen, Andrew Tatan's brother. They've been charged. Now
when do they get is extradited to the UK.

Speaker 25 (01:33:27):
Yeah, so they have to wait until they're currently in Romania.
They have to wait until all of that case has
been concluded before they will be extradited back to the UK.
But police really, well, the CPS really clarifying the situation
here that they've been charged with twenty one offenses here

(01:33:48):
in the UK and they include rape, actual bodily harm,
human traffic, trafficking, a range of charges. Andrew Tates facing
ten his brother tris Eton eleven. So yes, when they're
currently in Romania facing separate allegations, but a European arrest

(01:34:09):
warrant was actually issued in twenty twenty four. They will
be extradited when the proceedings in Romania have concluded.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
Elizabeth Listen Inda was running us through this business with
this Irish hip hop band with the Hispola flag. Why
have they been pulled from the concert from the gig?
Is it because of the flag?

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
No, it was seemingly not.

Speaker 25 (01:34:31):
That's not what organizers have said. So they've said that
they've been removed from a music festival over safety fears.
So this is a festival in Glasgow and Scotland. That's
happening in July. Organizers say they'll no longer perform. In
a statement, Kneecap have said that they'll instead play their
own solo headline show in the same city in Glasgow

(01:34:55):
a few days before the festival. But apparently police had
highlighted to organized is that the potential reaction of a
large audience would require significant policing in order for it
to be safe, and perhaps the organizers have taken that
on board. But nee Caap have said on a statement
on social media they said, we've played in Glasgow many,

(01:35:18):
many times with no issues ever. Make of that what
you will.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
Interesting Elizabeth, thank you appreciate your time. Elizabeth Callahan, UK correspondent.
Did you know I didn't know this until today, but
did you know that Boris Johnson had another baby the
other day? It was only about three days ago or
something like that. Kerry the wife had another baby. This
is their fourth babies here though, which takes the number
of children that he's had to possibly about seventeen hundred,

(01:35:45):
because he's got babies all over the show and I
think he's got I think this in fact could be
the third set of children if you know what I mean,
as in like family with the one lady, illegitimate child
family with the other lady.

Speaker 15 (01:35:59):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
Don't it alarms me how much I know about his
personal life anyway. Anyway, regardless, shout out to her for
going in for four babies at thirty seven, like she's
they only got married four years ago, so that's basically
a bung bung bung bung, like getting one out every
single year. That is impressive because that's a lot of
hard work. Now I know that they're loaded, they'll they'll

(01:36:20):
have help up the wazoo, but still, I mean, that's
a lot good from you, Carrie. However, she's had pregnancy
photos done. Now there is nothing that I I there
is nothing that I object to re photos more than
I think a pregnancy photo. I mean, like actual birth
photos would be more objectionable, but nobody does that, thank god.

(01:36:44):
But I don't know why people do the pregnancy photo.
What's up with that? Why do you want to look
at it? They're all dumb, They're always dumb. It's photos,
Like all her photos are basically her sitting in places
holding her stomach, so it's her sitting in her lounge
holding her stomach, her sitting outside holding his stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
That's all it is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
And why do you want to be why do you
want to be reminded of that? It's a hideous time
being pregnantly, As she herself says, I just felt sack
the whole time. I didn't really want to have to
do it. Well, don't do it because you're not your best,
are you? You're better, You're better either side of that
once that bump is gone. Anyway, It's just it's just so,
it's like this weird obsession with overdocumenting things that we've

(01:37:24):
gotten to right because now we've got the phone. Take
a part of everything, Take out of your meal, take
a front of you being pregnant, Take a phut of
your drink. Gross seven away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Five away from seven. So Lord on the Red Carpet
has been asked the vibe of her upcoming album. Well,
I can tell you that my current frequently used emojis
are the chains, the X ray, and the DNA spirals.

Speaker 11 (01:37:55):
So take from that what you will.

Speaker 16 (01:37:58):
What what?

Speaker 6 (01:38:02):
What am?

Speaker 9 (01:38:03):
I don't know what we were expecting. That's exactly how
she talks all the time, what I mean, And it's.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
Like I was I thought she was going to give
us like the high five emoji and the thumbs up
or like the middle finger.

Speaker 9 (01:38:14):
No that was that was sol the power. No, no, no,
I think the middle finger was probably a melodrama.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
And then I know what that means. I don't know
what what emotion ants do you attack?

Speaker 9 (01:38:24):
If you ask a question about vibes, right, like a
DNA spiral and an X ray's something cold and clinical
and you know medically?

Speaker 3 (01:38:33):
What about chains? Because I'm immediately because the book that
Bonnie gave me to read that there's handcuffs in that.
So I've immediately gone into that sense.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
Have you gone there?

Speaker 7 (01:38:43):
Well?

Speaker 9 (01:38:43):
And to be fair, the first song was about like
an old relationship, right, and so for your chains that
could be frustration or you know, feeling or breaking them
free or in an ability to break free, trying to
break free. And there's also it's pop music. We love it,
do you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:38:59):
I'm so glad that I'm not young anymore because we're
here to help with this. Honestly, I just you know
what because when you're young, you actually care about why
Lord is feeling the chains. But I don't care because
I don't understand. It's just too hard.

Speaker 9 (01:39:11):
And so let's finish with some Lord. This is Lord
and Charlie XCX the girls so confusing version with Lord.
This is the song that is up for Best Single
at the Old Or Music Awards. So imagine if she
showed up in something else wins, that'll be.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
I mean, imagine if Charlie XCX doesn't win at the
New Zealand Music Awards.

Speaker 9 (01:39:29):
Well, yeah, so the Lord's on the song, which is why.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Which is how it's managed to like switch its way
into imagine if we're like, nah, that over there is
But to be.

Speaker 9 (01:39:39):
Fair, it's like a full Lord verse, so I think
you can still count this as a key.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
With but imagine like it would just be like us
to give it to some random local band, not Charlie
x X.

Speaker 9 (01:39:47):
A well, there are some good ones on this. There
we go trom would get it if it was.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Feeling Chain's emoji with you, Okay, we'll see you tomorrow,
good luck to everything. I try to understand all of this.

Speaker 16 (01:40:00):
It'd be in the pitches for the last couple of years,
I've been boring my body, try to starve uself dinner
and then again.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
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