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July 30, 2025 4 mins

The UK and France both vowed to recognise Palestine as a state if Israel doesn't agree to a ceasefire, but Israel has voiced opposition to this proposal.

Prime Minister Netanyahu has accused UK PM Keir Starmer of 'appeasement' following the announcement.

UK correspondent Gavin Grey says Starmer remains committed to the move.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And Gavin Gray, UK correspondent, is with US now even
in Gevin Hi. The Israel's not happy with Kia, are they? No,
they are not so. Yesterday the UK announced that it
would recognize a Palestinian state if Israel didn't meet certain steps,
including to agree a cease fire, steps to end the war, etc.
Israel's Prime Minister Benjaminetnia, who's one among a number of

(00:25):
leaders in Israel that's really hit back his comments, say
that Britain is rewarding Hammus's monstrous terrorism and described it
as appeasement towards Jihadis terrorism which always fails. Plenty of
other comments from some of his other ministers as well,
but you get the drift of that suggesting that Israel

(00:46):
is not going to comply to the conditions that Secure
Starvar wants and therefore the UK will recognize, will recognize
along with France the Gaza and Palestine has a separate
entity as it were in a Palestinian state, so controversial. Incidentally,
Britain and France would be only the two countries of

(01:08):
the entire g seven to do so, something which America
described earlier as being a big mistake. So we're getting
news as well that other MPs here in the UK
suggesting this has been bad. The leader of the main
opposition added that the Prime Minister was trying to fix
a political problem in the Labor Party and that's because

(01:30):
of mounting pressure from his own MPs to do this,
so doing it for his own sake, whereas a reform
that's Nigel Farage's party also criticized the government's decision, saying
it's a political calculation by the Prime Minister which trivializes
quite offensively a horrendous situation in Gaza. It's this idea
of holding out sort of carrat and stick with Israel

(01:52):
over such a contentious issue. Will it work? It doesn't
look like it's going to have any traction at all. Yeah,
do you reckon? Nigel Farage is going to get an apology.
I don't think he will actually, So this has been
a very interesting few days in domestic politics here over
a relatively single small sentence. So the Technology Minister has

(02:17):
basically introduced these age recognition changes to the way in
which children are able to access internet material. It's a
new law and it's an online safety law which many
have been calling for. But already people are saying how
easy it is for young people to get around. In fact,

(02:38):
it drives them to downloading VPNs or virtual private networks,
which disguise the user's location online and could make it
much easier, of course, to avoid those age checks. And
because it's driving people onto VPNs, which itself is not
a great thing. Nigel Fowers this party has already this

(03:00):
saying it's just the badly thought out and shouldn't be
put in place. Now, the Technology Minister who's bringing the
plans into place basically said that those who are against
his new law are on the side of sex offenders
like Jimmy Savill. And during that comment, of course Jimmy
Savill a prolific child offender, child sex offender, but also

(03:23):
a former BBC star one of those, of course, the
head of Reform Party, Nigel Farah, she's sort of singled out,
saying Niger Farash is on the side of people like
Jimmy Savell. And that's where Nigel Faraoh said, Ah, now
that you've just made a really bad mistake, so you
need to apologize. That's a disgusting thing to say and
it's wrong, But the Tech Minister is refusing to apologize

(03:47):
and consequently we're in this standoff between the bear. Oh
she's honestly children. Hey, thank you for that, Kevin appreciated.
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