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September 12, 2025 4 mins

The second All Blacks Springboks game tomorrow night's happening in Wellington. 

The All Blacks have made 6 changes to the starting side after their 24-17 win last weekend and South Africa have made 7 changes. 

Former Springbok and Supersport Journalist Hanyani Shimange told Heather duPlessis-Allan that the team is confident heading in to Wellington.  

‘You guys got us at Eden Park, the record stands, but we're confident for tomorrow.’ 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The second All Black Spring Box game. Tomorrow night's happening
in Wellington. All Blacks have made six changes to the
starting side. South Africa have made seven changes. Former Springbok
and Supersport commentator Hanyana Shimonge has been following the box.
Hanyana Hello, Hello, I heat. How are you feeling about
going in this week? Are you guys ready for a drubbing? No?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, none at all. Look, it's it's exciting. I think
in New Zealand, South Africa. I did the commentary last
year when the All Blacks were in Cape Town. I
think that cave that cape Ton test that I've never
seen a demand for tickets like ats for a for
any game. And it's just the respect, the rival, the
interest in this game. And obviously without Super Ugby, we

(00:43):
only see each other twice a year, so this is
going to be one of those those occasions. You guys
got us at e didn't park. The record stands. But
you're confident for tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Why why so confident?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I think you know that the eras last week, we're twelve.
If you look at the overall stats besides the scoreboard,
the twelve entries last week into the New Zealand or thirteen.
We just didn't convert those. You go at fifty percent,
that's four or five trials, you know in New Zealand
and the look at the differential, it was a seven
point difference. So there are mistakes that we made last
week in New Zealand were very good. But it's stuff

(01:17):
that is flexible within a week and if we get it,
can get our execution right will be good.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Do you think it was a surprise that the All
Blacks won last week? I mean, I get the feeling
judging by some of the adverts coming out of South Africa,
you guys really believed it was possible to roll the
All Blacks of venpac Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
If you if you look at it, I mean it's
it's it's you gotta look at it both sides. South
Africa's won two World Cups, British and Irish Lions who
got good depth, number one team in the world, and
New Zealand team that just come off a loss against
Argentina almost struggled against the France B team. So if
in terms of that, you know that the fourth or
fifth choice come off who played very well. You know,

(01:53):
a New Zealand team that was probably vulnerable and a
South African team that you know that's probably was well
prepped for it. That's probably where the confidence came from.
But again, you know, to be to win that game
in New Zealand or to win at eden Park, you
have to be on top of your game and the
Springboks probably aren't.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
What is your take because the winning in at Eden
Park has sort of given something of a reprieve to Raiser, However,
I think it will probably pick up again at the
next loss. What does your take on him? Looking from
the outside as a coach.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh, he's an incredible coach. I think if you're a
Crusader supporter, you know Raiser has done so much in
terms for the Canterby Crusaders. I think coming into the
All Blacks, you know everyone thought it's just going to
be at an automatic step for the results he got
against Cantoby to the All Blacks, where's Test match rugby
is different? You know, it is completely different. But he's

(02:44):
a phenomenal coach. He's got a proven record. You can
see what he's trying to do with this All Black team.
Has introduced you blad who's doing it slowly. You know,
he's made one or two changes and you'll see hill
style coming through, and there've been glimpses of it. So
Raiser is the right guy. Is definitely the right coach
for the job. But I think New Zealand, like South Africa,
I've got a demanding, a demanding, a debanding public. I

(03:08):
think you sort of after the Argentina again, it almost
felt from a South African point of view that the
honeymoon period was over a Raiser and people started asking
the hard questions, what's going on? Why don't we getting
the results? It was another sort of sad record that
was broken by Argentina. All Blacks had never won in Argentina.
You know, I remember stage when you never saw the

(03:29):
All Blacks lose a game against Argentina. So it was
probably one of those and those the reaction to it.
I think if they had lost in Eden Park the
thirty year record or what I think fifty Test match
record gone, then there have been real problems. But I
think the pressure rule is the International rugby purely because
of the legacy, the history of both teams and what
they've managed to do.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Hanyana, it's very good to have you take on it.
Thanks mate, Hanya ne Hiamange, former Springbok and of course
supersport commentatic.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
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