The Workplace Relations Minister's defending saying the C-word in Parliament, while lashing out over an opinion piece opposing her pay equity policy.
In the Sunday Star Times, Andrea Vance referred to senior Cabinet ministers as girl-bosses and a hype squad, and said the policy used 'girl math'.
Quoting it in Parliament, Brooke van Velden herself used the extreme swear-word - saying she's standing up for MPs.
Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls unpacked the whole saga - and explained how it backfired on the opposition.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jason wolves up political editors with me. Now, Hey, Jason, hey,
have are you going to trash me for twenty minutes
after I've finished my cross with you today? Or is
that only a yesterday thing? Oh have you been? Have
you been feeling sore about it? This whole saw? Thank
you very much. I'm not even finished with you. You
wait until six thirty when I'm going to rip into
you again. I wait with baited breath, and I'm sure
(00:20):
you're gonna let me come back on to have my
right reply. Right, No, absolutely not. You didn't slot. You
get your slot at this time, and even then you
should be lucky that you've got it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Jason Thanky, Hey, tell me what happened when she said
the word, because it sounded like it went completely silent.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'll tell you what. The air from the room just evaporated,
because it is the first time that we've heard any
MP in the house say the word. And that's the
sea word, and you know the word that I'm talking about.
The air just evaporated from the room. And I was
up in the house watching everybody's kind of pulled back
a little bit because they couldn't believe that it happened.
That was apart from the act MP's that obviously knew
(00:58):
that it was going to go how it was going
to go down. And I was told by my colleagues
down here who were in the corridor of the Press
Gallery offices, that you heard sort of the ripple throughout
the entire corridor of people that were watching on Parliament TV.
And it was almost like the air had been taken
away down here as well. But it was one heck
and sorry, one heck of an afternoon because it started
(01:20):
with jan Toinetti. For god knows what reason decided to
ask about that Andrea Vance Sunday Star Times piece over
the weekend, why I don't know, haven't listened to how
it went down in the House.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Does she agree with Andrea Vance who said about the
Equal Pay Amendment bill quote, it is a curious feminist moment,
isn't it. Six skill bosses, Willis who hyped squad, Judith Collins,
Eric Stanford, Louise Upston, Nichola Gregg and Brook van Velden
all united in a historic act of economic backhanding other women.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So when you hear it like that, it's very stark
and you're wondering why labors dredging this back up because
it's going to backfire on them, and oh boy did it.
After some back and forth that was about whether or
not Brooke was allowed to answer the part of the question,
she hit back with the speaker with this.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Mister speaker, I'm a strong woman and I can speak
for myself.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Absolutely, that's good. And you only get to do that
and so you can hear the applause in the background,
and you're not good for Brook. So after some more
back and forth she got the opportunity to respond, and
hear she did.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And I do not agree with the clearly gendered and
patronizing language that Andrea Vance used to reduce senior cabinet
ministers to girl busses, height squads, references to girl meth and.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Making sure I had the right clip there. That could
have been a disaster. But obviously, as I said, so fine,
it's fine nowadays if the media use that word, don't
you know what apparently it is. But after question time
here's what she told reporters.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
We should not need to face myself genestic abuse. And
I've been standing up for myself and for other female
senior members of this cabinet.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Now despite all of this going on, the Labor leader
Chris Hopkins has still yet to weigh in on the
language used on that column and say anything negative about
it at all.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
That I'm not going to criticize the editorial decisions of newspapers.
They often newspapers often publish things I disagree with, and
that's the nature of democracy. We live in a free country.
We live in a country of free speech.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I think the Labor's absolutely butchered it today. I
can't believe how badly this is backfired on them. It's
right as a shocker. Hey, and what about the Greens.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What's your favorite thing in their absolutely nutty unicorn budget?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
How much time do you have? Let me count the
reasons I reckon. The jet tax is thee The jet
tax is good, which is a five thousand tax. It's
five thousand per person tax here and then five thousand
per person when you leave as well. Listen, this is
not going to happen. Eighty eight billion dollars worth of
d taxes, as well as taking the government's debt fifty
three point eight percent of GDP currently around forty percent.
(04:02):
It's a lot of money. Now, I'll tell you what
my favorite thing about today was listening to the government
parties react to this, because they were clearly having quite
a lot of fun. Have listened to Seymour.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Look, this is just left wing trump Ism. It's South
Pacific populism, which says your problems are caused by this success.
We're going to pull them down in order to solve
your problems.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Chris Luxon wasn't very happy either. Oh, it's actually clown
show economics is what it is. I mean, it's an
absolute circus. And of course we had Winston Raymond Peters Well,
I got the manifesto by Clay Marx and Marama Ingles
and so at that point he pulled out a copy
of the Greens policy and on the front was replaced
with a big red page with a hammer and sickle
(04:44):
on the front of it. So he's had a fun
day as Winston.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh we all.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Hey, by the way, quickly, do you want to tell
everybody what you text me last night? Ah? Yes I did,
I said Heather. I am the chair of the press
gallery and if I so choose, I can bar you
from the budgets or stop talking so much trash me
in my opinion, and I stand by it. Heather who's
really in charge here? Yeah that's right. Yeah, thank you
for that, Jason, appreciate it. Just you go and own that.
(05:08):
See that's threatening behavior coming out of Wellington. Buy Everybody
of Late. Jason Wall's political editor.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd b from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Jason wolves up political editors with me. Now, Hey, Jason, hey,
have are you going to trash me for twenty minutes
after I've finished my cross with you today? Or is
that only a yesterday thing? Oh have you been? Have
you been feeling sore about it? This whole saw? Thank
you very much. I'm not even finished with you. You
wait until six thirty when I'm going to rip into
you again. I wait with baited breath, and I'm sure
(00:20):
you're gonna let me come back on to have my
right reply. Right, No, absolutely not. You didn't slot. You
get your slot at this time, and even then you
should be lucky that you've got it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Jason Thanky, Hey, tell me what happened when she said
the word, because it sounded like it went completely silent.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'll tell you what. The air from the room just evaporated,
because it is the first time that we've heard any
MP in the house say the word. And that's the
sea word, and you know the word that I'm talking about.
The air just evaporated from the room. And I was
up in the house watching everybody's kind of pulled back
a little bit because they couldn't believe that it happened.
That was apart from the act MP's that obviously knew
(00:58):
that it was going to go how it was going
to go down. And I was told by my colleagues
down here who were in the corridor of the Press
Gallery offices, that you heard sort of the ripple throughout
the entire corridor of people that were watching on Parliament TV.
And it was almost like the air had been taken
away down here as well. But it was one heck
and sorry, one heck of an afternoon because it started
(01:20):
with jan Toinetti. For god knows what reason decided to
ask about that Andrea Vance Sunday Star Times piece over
the weekend, why I don't know, haven't listened to how
it went down in the House.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Does she agree with Andrea Vance who said about the
Equal Pay Amendment bill quote, it is a curious feminist moment,
isn't it. Six skill bosses, Willis who hyped squad, Judith Collins,
Eric Stanford, Louise Upston, Nichola Gregg and Brook van Velden
all united in a historic act of economic backhanding other women.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So when you hear it like that, it's very stark
and you're wondering why labors dredging this back up because
it's going to backfire on them, and oh boy did it.
After some back and forth that was about whether or
not Brooke was allowed to answer the part of the question,
she hit back with the speaker with this.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Mister speaker, I'm a strong woman and I can speak
for myself.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Absolutely, that's good. And you only get to do that
and so you can hear the applause in the background,
and you're not good for Brook. So after some more
back and forth she got the opportunity to respond, and
hear she did.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
And I do not agree with the clearly gendered and
patronizing language that Andrea Vance used to reduce senior cabinet
ministers to girl busses, height squads, references to girl meth and.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Making sure I had the right clip there. That could
have been a disaster. But obviously, as I said, so fine,
it's fine nowadays if the media use that word, don't
you know what apparently it is. But after question time
here's what she told reporters.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
We should not need to face myself genestic abuse. And
I've been standing up for myself and for other female
senior members of this cabinet.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Now despite all of this going on, the Labor leader
Chris Hopkins has still yet to weigh in on the
language used on that column and say anything negative about
it at all.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
That I'm not going to criticize the editorial decisions of newspapers.
They often newspapers often publish things I disagree with, and
that's the nature of democracy. We live in a free country.
We live in a country of free speech.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I think the Labor's absolutely butchered it today. I
can't believe how badly this is backfired on them. It's
right as a shocker. Hey, and what about the Greens.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What's your favorite thing in their absolutely nutty unicorn budget?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
How much time do you have? Let me count the
reasons I reckon. The jet tax is thee The jet
tax is good, which is a five thousand tax. It's
five thousand per person tax here and then five thousand
per person when you leave as well. Listen, this is
not going to happen. Eighty eight billion dollars worth of
d taxes, as well as taking the government's debt fifty
three point eight percent of GDP currently around forty percent.
(04:02):
It's a lot of money. Now, I'll tell you what
my favorite thing about today was listening to the government
parties react to this, because they were clearly having quite
a lot of fun. Have listened to Seymour.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Look, this is just left wing trump Ism. It's South
Pacific populism, which says your problems are caused by this success.
We're going to pull them down in order to solve
your problems.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Chris Luxon wasn't very happy either. Oh, it's actually clown
show economics is what it is. I mean, it's an
absolute circus. And of course we had Winston Raymond Peters Well,
I got the manifesto by Clay Marx and Marama Ingles
and so at that point he pulled out a copy
of the Greens policy and on the front was replaced
with a big red page with a hammer and sickle
(04:44):
on the front of it. So he's had a fun
day as Winston.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Oh we all.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Hey, by the way, quickly, do you want to tell
everybody what you text me last night? Ah? Yes I did,
I said Heather. I am the chair of the press
gallery and if I so choose, I can bar you
from the budgets or stop talking so much trash me
in my opinion, and I stand by it. Heather who's
really in charge here? Yeah that's right. Yeah, thank you
for that, Jason, appreciate it. Just you go and own that.
(05:08):
See that's threatening behavior coming out of Wellington. Buy Everybody
of Late. Jason Wall's political editor.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd b from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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