Jason Walls: Newstalk ZB political editor on Ginny Andersen's political blunder from Wellington Mornings

Labour's Ginny Andersen raised a few eyebrows after making an incorrect statement on Wellington Mornings.

Andersen was talking about the coalition arrangement - and claimed it was the only instance where ministers were included in the Cabinet room.

Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls noticed this was wrong - and cited some other examples.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jason Walls out political editors with us Hi Jason Good evening.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What's Jenny done?

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Jenny, Jenny, Jinny our poor Jenny Anderson. That's from the
Labor Party, that is, if you're not familiar with the name.
I think she needs a little bit of a history lesson,
I'm afraid. And we're not talking each history. We're talking
quite recent New Zealand political history, which you would have
thought she would have been pretty well clued up on.
She was on old mate Nick Mills's show, Wellington Mornings
this morning talking about the government's coalition arrangement.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
Have a listen.

Speaker 5 (00:29):
And he's only been one instance, which is the current
government where you've had ministers in the cabinet room. So
the bigger party tabically always takes up those cabinet roles
in the n net's part of negotiation.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Gang on a second, what was that first fight?

Speaker 5 (00:44):
And he's only been one instance, which is the current
government where you've had ministers in the cabinet room.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, what about one Winston Raymond Peters in twenty seventeen
to twenty twenty, Shane Jones, Tracy Martin.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
I could rattle off a few of the other New
Zealand first. Let me just get this.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
That was she saying that New Zealand First has never
been in the cabinet room before.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
I'm gonna play this for you again, and there's only
been one instance, which is the current government, where you've
had ministers in the cabinet room.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
So like a good well, like a good broadcaster, our
friend Nick Mills pushed back, and this is what she said.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
But they went in, they were in the cabinet room.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
So that was when he was talking about these New
Zealand First MPs. So the Deputy just for the record,
the Deputy Prime Minister was very much in the cabinet room.
In fact, when Ja Cinda Ardun was away on maternity leave,
Winston Peters was the chair of the cabinet.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
She went on, they would come to cabinet when they
have a paper, but currently correctly went wrong. But my
understanding is this is the first government where we've had
multiple parties inside that cabinet room meeting for cabinet regularly.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Now she is right on that latter part.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
This is the first three way coalition where all three
parties are actually technically always sitting around the cabinet table.
Under labor in twenty seventeen. The Greens were com It's
and supply, so although some of them were ministers, they
were they would come in and they were ministers, they
were not part of the cabinet per se, So good
bake neck.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
He follows up again, tell me if I'm wrong, and
you know this is your party I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
But Winston Peters was deputy.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Prime minister, so you had a deputy prime minister that
wasn't in the cabinet.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Moon, is that what you're telling me.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I still don't look. I wasn't in kidneting, to be honest,
so I don't remember. I was not a kidneting.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I mean, it's a.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Hard lessen, it's a high lesson. We all do make mistakes.
It happens from time to time. But you know, when
you're on radio talking about something like this, and the
point was, you know, she's sure that the prime minister
needs to be more careful with the likes David Seymour
and Winston Peters.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
This is the sort of things you should get right.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And for the record, yes, Winston Peters did sit in cabinet.
It's not the first time that he's done it. And
you know, might not even be the last day.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
How long has Ginny Anderson been in.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Parliament since twenty seventeen?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Wasn't she there?

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Like?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Correct me if I'm wrong, But wasn't she there when
Jacinda was sitting next to Winston in the cabinet room?

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Correct? Yes, she wasn't a minister?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I see the photo of Winston sitting in the cabinet room.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Apparently not apparently not what.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
I like.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
I like Ginny.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I think she did, and I think she actually has
had some, you know, some good moments in the house.
But it was just a bit of a lapse from
old mate.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Oh wowie, hey, what's going on with lux And it's not.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
True that he really dry cleans his suit every time
he wears it.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Is it's it's it's unfortunately not. It was a it
was a funny little anecdote that came from his his
ketchup with Ryan Bridge on Herold Now this morning, which,
by the way, is it's actually going quite well. Congratulations Ryan,
if you're listening, if you're not already asleep. So well,
we'll file this under the sort of the the unrelatable
Prime Minister Moments, because you know, since apparently it's in
vogue to ask MP's where they get their clothes from

(03:48):
and who they're wearing these days. Ryan asked about this
and the Prime Minister said, you know, he gets his
clothes from Working Style is a good Kiwi company. Then
Ryan asked, do you will be the same suit twice
buy or two of the suits at times?

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Which is I mean, wouldn't it be nice?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
These suits go for anywhere between fifteen hundred and two
thousand apiece. And then we get onto the conversation around
the maintenance of said suits.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
Well, you always wash it before you wear it. What
do you mean wash? I don't put it miss the
dry cleaners. Yeah, it goes as regular service to the
dry cleaning service.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yep. So there was some conversation as to it was
a bit unclear if he meant after every single time
you wore it he went to get it dry cleaned.
I have confirmed with senior beehive sources that this isn't
in fact not the case, but he does. He cleans
them regularly and patient. In anticipation of your next question, no,
we as taxpayers do not pay for the cleaning.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
He does that himself. Hold on, though, don't.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
You get subsidized cleaning. If you work in the beehive,
do you you?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
I mean probably there's probably.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Because when I was in when I worked in the
pres Gallery, there was a dry cleaners just down there
where the where the gymmers. Don't they still have the
dry They came and collected the and they took it,
took it away and then they brought it back for
the ministers. Do they not still do that?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
But they still do that.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
I don't know if it's subsidized though, because when I
get my suits dry cleaned, it's about forty five dollars upon.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Now you know what you're doing with the rest of
your afternoon. Can you make some phone calls?

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Oh? Yeah, okay, I'll hit the blow.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
You'll hit the phone, not the blow, thank you, thank you.
It is the blower is also the phoney.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Jas is on my Koreer flashing before my eyes.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
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