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July 9, 2025 4 mins

Public hearings for the second phase of the Covid-19 inquiry got under way this week, and there's been speculation if Jacinda Ardern will make an appearance.

Ardern says she will provide evidence to assist the Royal Commission of Inquiry, if asked to.

Newstalk ZB political editor Jason Walls says key decision makers and senior public servants are set to speak next month.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now, Jason Walls from Parliament. Hey Jason, good afternoon,
Ryan Jasindrad. And she's willing to provide evidence to the
COVID committee. Does that mean at ten? Does that mean zoomed?
Does that? What does it mean? Do we know?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, that's the exact question that we have. There was
two interesting parts to the statement that she gave to
the Post. The first was if asked to, So we
know this from Thomas Coglin's reporting that Dern hasn't been
formally asked to appear before the inquiry. There there is
hearings this week, but there's a more sort of in
August where there's a part where they're expected to sort

(00:33):
of bring in the key decision makers and senior public
civil servants and that's where she were to would appear
if she were if she was going to so the
commission said in a statement, no decisions have been made
by the Commissioner about who will be appearing, so we
will have to wait and see if they actually do
ask her, and now I'm with you here, I think
that they probably should. The second part of her statement

(00:54):
is that she has every intention of providing evidence, and
you quite rightly latch onto that because what we know
for Chris Hopkins, as what he told Kerry Woodham yesterday,
is that you would be providing responses to questions that
the committee has and that could be written responses. So
the question is, you know, if she were to apply,
say that she is fronting up, would she be doing

(01:16):
it in person or via zoom or would she just
be answering these questions. And I'll tell you one person
who has made their opinion clear on this, and that's
Nicola Willis.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, look, it'll be up to the Royal Commission to
decide whether to invite her. But if she were invited,
I can't see why she wouldn't want to put her
side of the story to calling on them to ask her,
And no, I wouldn't be appropriate for me to make
that call on them. That will be their decision to make.
I'm simply observing that I can't see why you wouldn't
front up to tell your side of the story if
you were given that opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
And I agree with it. I think she's bang on.
Why wouldn't she want a front up to tell her
side of the story.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Mikola Willis says she's going to sit down with Miles
Harold why it was an.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Interesting It was an interesting throwaway in a press conference
that she gave earlier this afternoon, have a listener.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I will be meeting with the front TIRA chief executive
in the next little while to talk to him about
what we can do to make sure that New Zealanders
have affordable cheese, milk and butter.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
And I thought this was quite fascinating, given the price
of milk is determined by the GDT auction and other
international factors. So I actually put this to Willis and
here's what she said.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Look, I accept at a high level that that's the
case when there's a lot of demand for dairy products,
the price internationally goes up, and that's reflected here at home.
My question is about why sometimes we're seeing cheaper prices
in British or Australian supermarkets, and I'm interested to understand
how much of that is about the lack of supermarket

(02:37):
competition here and how much of that is about the
prices that Fonterra is passing through. So those are discussions
that I'm continuing because I know it bothers. Kiwi's you know,
the cheese gone, the butter on your toast. These are
Kiwi essentials.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
So it really sounds like she's yet again having another
crack at the supermarkets here and getting some information on that,
and you know she's she's gonna after the supermarkets quite
a lot during her tenure as Finance Minister. She ruled
out any subsidies. But David Seymour meanwhile was on the
country seeing this.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
And thank god for Millcote nearly ten bucks and you know,
sheep and beef prices where they are, because otherwise would
have a very different story.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Which kind of highlights the double edged sword here. Higher
dairy prices maybe hard for Kimi consumers, but you know
the farmers aren't complaining.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Absolutely not right. Finally, the Regulatory Standards Bill's Select Committee hearings,
You've got a quote of the day for us, Jason, Yeah,
I do.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
There's been so many submissions and I've listened into a few,
and this one comes from the Wolke Lesbian Symposium. So
again that's not me being facetious. That is actually the
name of the group. Here's how Cameron Brewer introduced them
this morning.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Now that brings us to the Woke Lisbo Symposium. This
I have to say this You were my nomination and
I'm sure others nominated you as well to speak out
for me. It was purely out of intrigue, so please
don't disappoint it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And they didn't disappoint. Listen to what they had to say.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Trickle down is like pissing on people and telling them
it's rain. As the woke Lisbo Symposium, we recommend that
you tell Parliament to ditch this monstrosity.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I just love New Zealand's democracy. Anyone can submit apparently
so and then they are the woke Lesbos. Good on
your walke Lesbos.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Great fun. Thanks Jason, Jason Walls of Parliament. For more
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