The US President has said he would be happy to have a face-to-face meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The focus of this meeting will likely be around peace talks between Russia and Ukraine.
US Correspondent Jonathan Kearsley told Heather duPlessis-Allan that Donald Trump wants to be the middleman to this peace deal.
‘He would want to make it look like he is the peacemaker.’
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International correspondence with ends an Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jonathan Kearsley, US correspondent with US Now, Hey, Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Heather, Good afternoon to you and all the beautiful folk
on the other side of the world.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
In the future, in the future, I love it, Jonathan listen.
How can Trump being justify being happy to meet with
potent if he hasn't met with Zelenski.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, I think this is the issue that the White
House was kind of trying to navigate around earlier today.
There was after this suggestion yesterday that Trump and Putin
would meet, came a suggestion from the White House earlier
today US time that that actually wouldn't happen until Putin
had met Zelenski. Like they were starting to put conditions
around this thing. And then you heard President Trump asked
(00:44):
in the Oval Office a few hours ago whether or
not that was actually a condition he saw, and he said, no,
it's not. So it's it is interesting from that perspective
that he is seemingly trying to drive this meeting as
he wants to meet Putin, he wants to see him
face to face. He seems Lenski they had that infamous
showdown in the Oval Office a year or so ago,
(01:06):
now earlier this year. It feels like a year ago,
but it was earlier this year, and then obviously at
the Pope's funeral a few months back too. So look,
he is placing a lot of importance around wanting to
see Vladimir Putin. I think in reality trying to pull
off a meeting of such high stakes that such short
notice is going to be problematic. Is it actually going
(01:30):
to happen? I mean, this is Donald Trump. He could
potentially pull anything off. But I think the next few
hours are going to tell whether this meeting is actually
going to happen within days, as the Kremlin suggested, and
as the White House suggested, it could happen as early
as next week. But I think in reality Donald Trump
would want the optics of him sitting in the room
with the two of them. He would want to make
it look like he is the peacemaker. Already, the White
(01:53):
House is trying to claim that he's broken some seven
seats fires in the seven months or so six and
a half months he has been in office, So he
is really trying to drive himself as a peacemaker, probably
in a push for a Nobel Peace Prize, And that
might sound slightly off the cuff, but it is genuinely
something he has spoken about repeatedly. He has his eyes
(02:16):
very much firmly set on being seen as a peacemaker
president and wanting a trophy if you like, to be
able to go with it. But you've got to look
at the reality of pulling off this meeting in such
a short amount of time as to whether it's feasible.
The UAE has been suggested as a possible location. They
had that famous summit back in his first term when
he went against the CIA advice that Russia had tried
(02:40):
to influence the election and said that he'd spoken with
Putin in that room and Putin deny it. So he
believes Putin. So the optics of this meeting are going
to be extraordinary if they happen. But you would imagine
if you were in Donald Trump's seat, you would want
the optics of him sharing a table with Vladimir Putin
on one end, Vladimir's Lenski on the other. And right
(03:01):
now Russia and Ukraine are essentially saying they're too far
apart for that summer to happen. But Donald Trump said
earlier today that wouldn't matter. He's happy to meet Putin now,
he's happy to see him. But what is it he's
going to get out of it. He's going to need
an outcome. And the outcome he's going to want is
Vladimir Putin agreeing to stop the war in Ukraine. Is
(03:23):
he willing to do that? Well, everything up until now
has suggested that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah. Quite. How do you think Trump's going to react
to this news out of Israel?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, this is going to be a fascinating one for
him to address in the early hours. We yet to
see it him to respond to it on truth Social
It's now twenty twenty to one in the morning in Washington, DC.
We know Donald Trump stays up very late in the evening,
but we're yet to see a response to him on that.
But we know that he is very close to Benjaminetnyahu,
that he has had him at the White House on
(03:55):
multiple occasions, and he has said that he wants an
end to this conflict, this idea of Israel taking complete
control of Gaza and Gaza City. I mean, wind the
clock back to when he effectively stood alongside Benuminette Yahoo
and said he wanted us control of Gaza back in
probably February of this year, and said that essentially he
(04:17):
wanted to turn it into the riviera of the Middle East.
The words that will go down in history were accompanied
by this sort of gushing ai video that he shared
on social media of what Gaza could look like turned
into some sort of resort city. We'll look at the
images that are coming out of there now and need
such a stark contrast. You've forgot thousands of people dared
(04:40):
according to the Palestinian Health Ministry, the Ghaza Health Ministry,
which yes he's run by Hamas. You've got claims of starvation.
We're seeing the images coming out of Gaza of the
humanitarians suffering in place and claims that the food cannot
get in. What you're going to see, I think from
Donald Trump in the next twenty four hours is going
to be critical to where he now sits on this conflict.
(05:02):
Is he firmly in Benuminetnyahu's pocket in agreeing that this
is a good idea in Israeli control of Gaza City,
or is he going to try and find another alternative,
Because again, as a peacemaker, he is wanting to find
a path to piece. He's wanting to find an end
to this conflict. But it is Benuminetnyahu who is on
(05:23):
the ground in the region driving his situation forward, and
as you said, in the last few hours, he's been
able to convince his cabinet that a complete control of
Gaza City is acceptable for the Israeli government to take. Now,
this is going to spark a lot of anger in
the region if it does take place, because what you're
going to see is a call up of thousands of
Israeli reservists, thousands upon thousands of them, and the IDF,
(05:48):
which are very very good at sending out media, video
and images of what they want the world to see,
is going to put out the optics and again we're
talking about optics here of Israeli troops going into control
Gaza City. This is exactly the sort of scenario the
ben jaminette Na who wants. He wasn't going to get
it under Joe Biden or indeed Kamala Harris if Kamala
(06:12):
Harris was elected, because he would not have had that support.
But seemingly, seemingly in the first six and a half
months or so of Donald Trump's presidency. He knows that
he has the support of the American President.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Jonathan, very good to talk to you and thanks for
all of that insight. Jonathan Kearsley, US correspondent. For more
from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
International correspondence with ends an Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jonathan Kearsley, US correspondent with US Now, Hey, Jonathan.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Heather, Good afternoon to you and all the beautiful folk
on the other side of the world.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
In the future, in the future, I love it, Jonathan listen.
How can Trump being justify being happy to meet with
potent if he hasn't met with Zelenski.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, I think this is the issue that the White
House was kind of trying to navigate around earlier today.
There was after this suggestion yesterday that Trump and Putin
would meet, came a suggestion from the White House earlier
today US time that that actually wouldn't happen until Putin
had met Zelenski. Like they were starting to put conditions
around this thing. And then you heard President Trump asked
(00:44):
in the Oval Office a few hours ago whether or
not that was actually a condition he saw, and he said, no,
it's not. So it's it is interesting from that perspective
that he is seemingly trying to drive this meeting as
he wants to meet Putin, he wants to see him
face to face. He seems Lenski they had that infamous
showdown in the Oval Office a year or so ago,
(01:06):
now earlier this year. It feels like a year ago,
but it was earlier this year, and then obviously at
the Pope's funeral a few months back too. So look,
he is placing a lot of importance around wanting to
see Vladimir Putin. I think in reality trying to pull
off a meeting of such high stakes that such short
notice is going to be problematic. Is it actually going
(01:30):
to happen? I mean, this is Donald Trump. He could
potentially pull anything off. But I think the next few
hours are going to tell whether this meeting is actually
going to happen within days, as the Kremlin suggested, and
as the White House suggested, it could happen as early
as next week. But I think in reality Donald Trump
would want the optics of him sitting in the room
with the two of them. He would want to make
it look like he is the peacemaker. Already, the White
(01:53):
House is trying to claim that he's broken some seven
seats fires in the seven months or so six and
a half months he has been in office, So he
is really trying to drive himself as a peacemaker, probably
in a push for a Nobel Peace Prize, And that
might sound slightly off the cuff, but it is genuinely
something he has spoken about repeatedly. He has his eyes
(02:16):
very much firmly set on being seen as a peacemaker
president and wanting a trophy if you like, to be
able to go with it. But you've got to look
at the reality of pulling off this meeting in such
a short amount of time as to whether it's feasible.
The UAE has been suggested as a possible location. They
had that famous summit back in his first term when
he went against the CIA advice that Russia had tried
(02:40):
to influence the election and said that he'd spoken with
Putin in that room and Putin deny it. So he
believes Putin. So the optics of this meeting are going
to be extraordinary if they happen. But you would imagine
if you were in Donald Trump's seat, you would want
the optics of him sharing a table with Vladimir Putin
on one end, Vladimir's Lenski on the other. And right
(03:01):
now Russia and Ukraine are essentially saying they're too far
apart for that summer to happen. But Donald Trump said
earlier today that wouldn't matter. He's happy to meet Putin now,
he's happy to see him. But what is it he's
going to get out of it. He's going to need
an outcome. And the outcome he's going to want is
Vladimir Putin agreeing to stop the war in Ukraine. Is
(03:23):
he willing to do that? Well, everything up until now
has suggested that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah. Quite. How do you think Trump's going to react
to this news out of Israel?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, this is going to be a fascinating one for
him to address in the early hours. We yet to
see it him to respond to it on truth Social
It's now twenty twenty to one in the morning in Washington, DC.
We know Donald Trump stays up very late in the evening,
but we're yet to see a response to him on that.
But we know that he is very close to Benjaminetnyahu,
that he has had him at the White House on
(03:55):
multiple occasions, and he has said that he wants an
end to this conflict, this idea of Israel taking complete
control of Gaza and Gaza City. I mean, wind the
clock back to when he effectively stood alongside Benuminette Yahoo
and said he wanted us control of Gaza back in
probably February of this year, and said that essentially he
(04:17):
wanted to turn it into the riviera of the Middle East.
The words that will go down in history were accompanied
by this sort of gushing ai video that he shared
on social media of what Gaza could look like turned
into some sort of resort city. We'll look at the
images that are coming out of there now and need
such a stark contrast. You've forgot thousands of people dared
(04:40):
according to the Palestinian Health Ministry, the Ghaza Health Ministry,
which yes he's run by Hamas. You've got claims of starvation.
We're seeing the images coming out of Gaza of the
humanitarians suffering in place and claims that the food cannot
get in. What you're going to see, I think from
Donald Trump in the next twenty four hours is going
to be critical to where he now sits on this conflict.
(05:02):
Is he firmly in Benuminetnyahu's pocket in agreeing that this
is a good idea in Israeli control of Gaza City,
or is he going to try and find another alternative,
Because again, as a peacemaker, he is wanting to find
a path to piece. He's wanting to find an end
to this conflict. But it is Benuminetnyahu who is on
(05:23):
the ground in the region driving his situation forward, and
as you said, in the last few hours, he's been
able to convince his cabinet that a complete control of
Gaza City is acceptable for the Israeli government to take. Now,
this is going to spark a lot of anger in
the region if it does take place, because what you're
going to see is a call up of thousands of
Israeli reservists, thousands upon thousands of them, and the IDF,
(05:48):
which are very very good at sending out media, video
and images of what they want the world to see,
is going to put out the optics and again we're
talking about optics here of Israeli troops going into control
Gaza City. This is exactly the sort of scenario the
ben jaminette Na who wants. He wasn't going to get
it under Joe Biden or indeed Kamala Harris if Kamala
(06:12):
Harris was elected, because he would not have had that support.
But seemingly, seemingly in the first six and a half
months or so of Donald Trump's presidency. He knows that
he has the support of the American President.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Jonathan, very good to talk to you and thanks for
all of that insight. Jonathan Kearsley, US correspondent. For more
from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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