October 3, 2024 • 6 mins
Police in New South Wales have applied to the state’s top court to ban two pro-Palestinian rallies set to take place this weekend.
Next Monday marks the one-year anniversary of Hamas’s attacks on Israel and the start of the conflict in Gaza - and police aim to stop a rally taking place on that date from going forward on top of the usual weekend protests.
Australian correspondent Murray Olds says police are concerned about the potential risks to public safety, especially for Monday's event.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And the Stony correspond to Murray Olds is with us
this afternoon. Hi Murray, very good afternoon, Jack. So Sydney
has an application by the police to stop to pro
Palestine in marches this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, starts in about twenty one minutes from now. The
New South Wales Supreme Court is meeting this afternoon special
session to hear this application from New South Wales Police.
There's an outfit called the Palestine's Action Group. It's held
rallies every weekend in the last in the last twelve months,
(00:38):
fifty one weeks in fact. But police say have a
rally this weekend, this Sunday and then on the Monday,
which is the anniversary of the Hummas attack in Israel.
Simply too great risk, the police say, the public safety,
particularly on the Monday. It's a long weekend here coming up.
We've got the Daylight Saving Kitchen as well, so Monday's
(00:58):
a holiday.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Police do not want to have every single police officer
from the North Coast down to the South Coast in
Sydney trying to you know, kick the peace. They had
thirty thousand people on the street Jack in Sydney last Sunday.
So these are not small protests. One woman arrested for
waving Hesbala flag. Palestinian supporters have already said, don't matter
(01:22):
what the Supreme Court's got to say.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We're going to run march and rally anyway. On Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
They're planning a candle lit vigil, no flag waving, no
nasty speeches and all that sort of stuff. But in
any event, one thirty we understand there was to be
a snap protest march in the city in the same
precinct as a Supreme Court. So look, it's a pretty
fragile situation.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Here in town.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
There's you know, elevated feelings on both sides. If you
and police just want to try and maybe just put
a dampner on it for this weekend, can I see
they go?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Can I suggest that's not going to work. It seems
seems to me to me like even if they try,
are they really going to be able to stop these
protests from going ahead. And if these protests trying to
go ahead, you can have clashes between police and protests.
It seems like, I don't know, trying to maybe work
with them is going to be a better option if
if you know, if having decorum and stability in public
(02:25):
as the goal, well, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Mean, let's just wait and see you which way the
mop flops.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Because the Supreme Court has got under a bit of pressure,
it's got to make a decision, well, either today or
tomorrow because this Saturday.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Sunday, Monday.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, but you know that there are people arguing for
your side of things.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, let them protest peacefully.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm just saying, it's not necessarily even a question of
whether you agree with the protesters or not. It's not
a question about sides. It's just a question of whether
or not trying to ban a protest is a good
way of stopping people from coming out onto the streets.
Because I'm not sure that it is necessarily.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
If you go back about forty years and there was
a forty five fifty years now and a government minister
was arrested for leading an anti Vietnam war protest. Yeah,
five hundred Australian soldiers were killed in Vietnam and a
minister of the day, the Minister of the Crown, was arrested.
So look what's happened before I dare say eleven again.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, now, Murray, speaking of the situation in the Middle East,
numerous Australians are desperately trying to get out of Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, that's right, and we understand there are two flights
that have been arranged in the last little while for
Australians out of air route. Amazingly that international airport is
still working, but seats are at a premium. As you
might expect, Around fifteen thousand Australians are in Lebanon. Many
Australian citizens have retired there, and Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister,
(03:50):
is saying there at least seventeen hundred of those Australians
in Lebanon have registered with the government indicating I would
like to get out of possible. I say, a few
dozen seats have been secured on a commercial flight or
two that's already left Lebanon, but we understand two more
flights now have been arranged in the last well in
(04:11):
the last three or four hours. So let's just wait
and see how many people can get out if you
want to.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, because no land borders really that can cross, right,
You've got serious, that's right. And then Israel so yeah,
you're stuck if you can't get out on one of
those flights. Changes. Coming to the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Marri.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, this is a scheme that it was established and
I looked at it. I wasn't sure exactly how long
this has been here. It's been around since twenty thirteen.
The full rollout happened in twenty twenty and basically this
provides for a range of services for people living with
disabilities here in Australia. The trouble is it's been so
popular the government has now tried to rein it in.
(04:50):
If it wasn't rained in, they were looking at one
hundred one hundred billion dollars I beg your pardon a
year by twenty thirty five, completely unsustainable, more and education,
health from the bloody defense budget. So what they've done
as of today there are new rules governing what the
National Disability Insurance Scheme will pay for the government's been
(05:11):
under pressure, of course, to array defending their parliamentary inquiries.
Many of them have heard some pretty awful stories about
basically ripoffs, how some of the cash has been spent.
There have been all these shonky therapies involving crystals, cuddle,
something called cuddle therapy. I need a bit of that,
the sound therapy, aroma therapy, tarot cards, clairvoyance.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So that's all out. The NDIS won't be paying for.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Groceries or holidays or homeschooling. The systems being streamlined down
to thirty six categories, and those with recognized disabilities will
continue to get all the support they need, for example,
speech therapy or wound care. If you need continence therapy
at home, that's all covered. Spinal cord injury, brain injury,
(05:57):
that's covered too.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What they're trying to do is get rid of all
the sharks.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Who I mean there was one guy apparently he was
billing a million dollars a month and there were Noah,
larm bells ringing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That's insane, surely not. He was offering more than cuddle therapy.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
There was Well are you in hope? So I hope
you got your shopping down as well.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yes, yeah, hey, thanks to the Murray appreciate it as always.
Burry Olds are Australian correspondent. What did I say? Seventy
three percent of houses in this one region, according to
the latest census data, still have land lines. So we're
only only a third of New Zealand household of landlines
according to the census, but seventy three percent in this region.
It is, of course the Tannam Islands, but you knew that.
(06:38):
Quarter to five for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive,
listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand business.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
And the Stony correspond to Murray Olds is with us
this afternoon. Hi Murray, very good afternoon, Jack. So Sydney
has an application by the police to stop to pro
Palestine in marches this weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, starts in about twenty one minutes from now. The
New South Wales Supreme Court is meeting this afternoon special
session to hear this application from New South Wales Police.
There's an outfit called the Palestine's Action Group. It's held
rallies every weekend in the last in the last twelve months,
(00:38):
fifty one weeks in fact. But police say have a
rally this weekend, this Sunday and then on the Monday,
which is the anniversary of the Hummas attack in Israel.
Simply too great risk, the police say, the public safety,
particularly on the Monday. It's a long weekend here coming up.
We've got the Daylight Saving Kitchen as well, so Monday's
(00:58):
a holiday.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Monday.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Police do not want to have every single police officer
from the North Coast down to the South Coast in
Sydney trying to you know, kick the peace. They had
thirty thousand people on the street Jack in Sydney last Sunday.
So these are not small protests. One woman arrested for
waving Hesbala flag. Palestinian supporters have already said, don't matter
(01:22):
what the Supreme Court's got to say.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We're going to run march and rally anyway. On Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
They're planning a candle lit vigil, no flag waving, no
nasty speeches and all that sort of stuff. But in
any event, one thirty we understand there was to be
a snap protest march in the city in the same
precinct as a Supreme Court. So look, it's a pretty
fragile situation.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Here in town.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
There's you know, elevated feelings on both sides. If you
and police just want to try and maybe just put
a dampner on it for this weekend, can I see
they go?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Can I suggest that's not going to work. It seems
seems to me to me like even if they try,
are they really going to be able to stop these
protests from going ahead. And if these protests trying to
go ahead, you can have clashes between police and protests.
It seems like, I don't know, trying to maybe work
with them is going to be a better option if
if you know, if having decorum and stability in public
(02:25):
as the goal, well, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Mean, let's just wait and see you which way the
mop flops.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Because the Supreme Court has got under a bit of pressure,
it's got to make a decision, well, either today or
tomorrow because this Saturday.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Sunday, Monday.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, but you know that there are people arguing for
your side of things.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You know, let them protest peacefully.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm just saying, it's not necessarily even a question of
whether you agree with the protesters or not. It's not
a question about sides. It's just a question of whether
or not trying to ban a protest is a good
way of stopping people from coming out onto the streets.
Because I'm not sure that it is necessarily.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
If you go back about forty years and there was
a forty five fifty years now and a government minister
was arrested for leading an anti Vietnam war protest. Yeah,
five hundred Australian soldiers were killed in Vietnam and a
minister of the day, the Minister of the Crown, was arrested.
So look what's happened before I dare say eleven again.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, now, Murray, speaking of the situation in the Middle East,
numerous Australians are desperately trying to get out of Lebanon.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, that's right, and we understand there are two flights
that have been arranged in the last little while for
Australians out of air route. Amazingly that international airport is
still working, but seats are at a premium. As you
might expect, Around fifteen thousand Australians are in Lebanon. Many
Australian citizens have retired there, and Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister,
(03:50):
is saying there at least seventeen hundred of those Australians
in Lebanon have registered with the government indicating I would
like to get out of possible. I say, a few
dozen seats have been secured on a commercial flight or
two that's already left Lebanon, but we understand two more
flights now have been arranged in the last well in
(04:11):
the last three or four hours. So let's just wait
and see how many people can get out if you
want to.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, because no land borders really that can cross, right,
You've got serious, that's right. And then Israel so yeah,
you're stuck if you can't get out on one of
those flights. Changes. Coming to the National Disability Insurance Scheme, Marri.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, this is a scheme that it was established and
I looked at it. I wasn't sure exactly how long
this has been here. It's been around since twenty thirteen.
The full rollout happened in twenty twenty and basically this
provides for a range of services for people living with
disabilities here in Australia. The trouble is it's been so
popular the government has now tried to rein it in.
(04:50):
If it wasn't rained in, they were looking at one
hundred one hundred billion dollars I beg your pardon a
year by twenty thirty five, completely unsustainable, more and education,
health from the bloody defense budget. So what they've done
as of today there are new rules governing what the
National Disability Insurance Scheme will pay for the government's been
(05:11):
under pressure, of course, to array defending their parliamentary inquiries.
Many of them have heard some pretty awful stories about
basically ripoffs, how some of the cash has been spent.
There have been all these shonky therapies involving crystals, cuddle,
something called cuddle therapy. I need a bit of that,
the sound therapy, aroma therapy, tarot cards, clairvoyance.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
So that's all out. The NDIS won't be paying for.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Groceries or holidays or homeschooling. The systems being streamlined down
to thirty six categories, and those with recognized disabilities will
continue to get all the support they need, for example,
speech therapy or wound care. If you need continence therapy
at home, that's all covered. Spinal cord injury, brain injury,
(05:57):
that's covered too.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What they're trying to do is get rid of all
the sharks.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Who I mean there was one guy apparently he was
billing a million dollars a month and there were Noah,
larm bells ringing.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
That's insane, surely not. He was offering more than cuddle therapy.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
There was Well are you in hope? So I hope
you got your shopping down as well.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yes, yeah, hey, thanks to the Murray appreciate it as always.
Burry Olds are Australian correspondent. What did I say? Seventy
three percent of houses in this one region, according to
the latest census data, still have land lines. So we're
only only a third of New Zealand household of landlines
according to the census, but seventy three percent in this region.
It is, of course the Tannam Islands, but you knew that.
(06:38):
Quarter to five for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive,
listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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