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May 15, 2025 4 mins

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has landed in Indonesia as part of his first overseas trip since his election victory earlier in the month.

Albanese is set to stay there for one full day before flying to Rome to meet European leaders and attend the pope's inauguration mass.

Australian correspondent Murray Olds explains what this means for Albanese's key foreign policy priorities for his second term. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Murray Old's Ossie corresponding with us now heimas good Appterlone Heather,
how's Elbow's meeting in Indonesia going?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Looks pretty good from this distance. Anthony albanezy on his
way to the Vatican, of course, but he made it
very clear as was his intention, and that's what he
did in his first term as Prime minister. First visit
was to Indonesia. He's exactly the same scenario second time
around for the Prime Minister of Australia. He's up there

(00:27):
seeing Froboo Subianto, the brand new Indonesian president. And how
about this for different diplomacy. Alba pulls in last night
in the plane, gets into his hotel, there's a knock
on the door as the president, how are you going, Albow?
Nice to see you again. So look at the very
complex relationship. The new Indonesian president's a military manned Korea

(00:51):
military officer. He's looking to develop a relationship with China. Also,
of course there's been all this talk about Indonesia and
the relationship it has with Russia and Vladimir Putin. So
from Australia's point of view, very important customer on Australia's
doorstep three hundred and you know, three hundred and thirty

(01:12):
odd million people, the world's largest m.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
MAZ. You're breaking up, Maus, you're breaking up terribly. So
if you is there a do you know if there's
a spot where you actually have some clear signal?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
No, I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Are you at the golf course?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
No, I'm not on the freeway.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh you're on a freeway doing one hundred and ten. Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'll speak slowly and they look at an important relection
to both sides, and certainly Albeneasi is hoping that he
can get off from the right foot with the Indonesian president.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
When you said you were going to speak slowly, I
was just going to say that isn't not how it works.
But amazingly it has actually worked. I don't know how
you know that now, Maus. Okay, so listen, tell me quickly.
Wolf's got some clear patch with you about this Aussie
who may have died fighting in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, the second guy, if this is the case, we
think it is the case. The second Australian to die
in less than I think three weeks, the youngest, the
latest person a Queensland fellow. Caleb List is his name.
He wanted to join the Australian Army when he left
school for some reason, was turned down, and a couple
of three years later he says, I want to join

(02:28):
the French Foreign Legion. That didn't work out, so he
joined the International Legion that was signing up to fight
for Ukraine against Russia. Well, it didn't end well for
him to die in an artillery barrage. The other fellow
was Nick Parsons, who was working for a charity. Ex
Australian soldier. He was working for charity that disarmed land

(02:49):
mines and he and another fellow were killed about three
weeks ago now in Ukraine as there were clearing land
mines for the basic advice in the Australian government to
anyone who wants to do not go anywhere near it.
The Department of Foreign Affairs said, you're out of your mind.
If you want to go there must listen.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Are you one of the people who are upset about
the idea of taking a veggiemite on toast and then
putting the dill and the paprika and the cheese.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
That doesn't work for me, I say, I like that. Look,
I'm an old fashioned guy. Give me a nice bit
of toast, but lastings of it and veggiemite. I've been
known to top a poached egg on top of that,
which went going very well. Yeah, a little bit of
cheese on top, but you know, please, I mean next
thing you can be putting a sardine on there or
mashed up American what's wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Are you? Are you philistine? This sounds absolutely delicious? Have
you mask dil is the most underrated herb out there?
Don't you think?

Speaker 2 (03:47):
No? I do you? And a lot of Australians tape
this guy too? And abomination, barbaric and international crime go
back to America.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Just so, just a perfectly rational response from the Australians
to thank you. Maus appreciated it as always. Marry Old's
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