Independent senator Lidia Thorpe recently claimed she pledged Queen Elizabeth's 'hairs' and not 'heirs' when she recited her parliamentary oath.
Thorpe has been accused of violating her pledge to the monarchy after she shouted at King Charles during his Parliament House visit on Monday.
Australian correspondent Murray Olds says this raises questions about Thorpe's legitimacy as a senator.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Murray Old's Ozzie correspondent with us. Now he mus good afternoon, Heather,
So Lydia thorpey, So did she swear allegiance to the
queen's heirs or the queen's hairs?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh? Look, I mean talk about hair splitting part in
the punt.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Look, the fact of the matter is another week, another
Lydia Thorpe headline.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's as though she's just out there looking for headlines.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
She's hit back after suggestions that she was an absolute
muffet last week with her protest in Parliament at that
parliamentary reception for the King and Queen. And look a
lot of people saying she did well. She promoted her
indigenous cause and she's obviously very passionate about it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Others said, what are you doing? You're a clown.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You swore allegiance to his mother. Now she says, well, no,
I didn't. Actually I did not swear allegiance to her heirs,
to her hairs h a irs, Well, Lydia, and then
she says, oh, look, because my grammar's not as good
as yours.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh, and Peter Dutton, you can put your head in
as well. I'm not going anywhere how dare you question
my legitimacy.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
There's the point if she didn't swear allegiance to the
queen's heirs, and she swore allegiance to the queen's but
he has on her head, Well, is she a legitimate senator?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So look, she's looking for a headline. She's getting it.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We're still talking about her, and as Oscar Wilde said,
there's only one thing worse than.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Being talked about, and that's not she's there for another
three and a half years, and said, I'm going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Listen, tell me. You're obviously closer to the action, so
you'll know better. But from where I'm sitting, it looks
like she did actually deliberately swear allegiance to the hairs
so that she didn't swear allegiance to the airs, and
then she fished that up, and then when the controversy
blew up, she retracted it because it was getting too hot.
Is that basically what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's what's happened. Yeah, God, do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Do you make her go back and do it properly
or what?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
That look, I don't know. The presiding officers of the Senate.
We'll obviously have a view on this. It hasn't been
It has been spoken about, I'm sure today certainly Katie Gallagher,
the the Government leader in the Senate, was pretty hot
and strong about it. It's not up to Galagher, it's
not up to labor. It is up to the presiding offices.
So where this particular mop flops, I'm not sure will
(02:11):
Thorpe have to go back and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Do it again or does she get kicked out?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, they can't kick her out, but she's a bit
like Fatima payment for labor. She was a lucky recipient
of a Senate seat when the Greens picked her pre
selected to go in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
She says, I'm going nowhere. I'm there for another three
and a half years.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And yeah, okay, now listen, explain something to me. Why
did this guy the restrateur, why did he have a
swastika at that rally? What's the point?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, well, yeah, exactly. I mean, this is a guy
called Al Yaznek. He owns some very high profile restaurants
in Sydney and in Melbourne, the Nomad group, and for
reasons best known to himself, he turns up at a
pro Palestine rally with a sign with basically, the star
of David removed and a big Nazi swastik is stuck
(02:59):
in the mid well have surprised surprise. He's been arrested
in charge and now he's pleaded guilty to display to
knowingly displaying a Nazi symbol in public.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's against the law. And now that he's another muppet,
isn't he?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Because he's put out the sand Stock standard statement. I'm
not an anti said mind, I'm passionate about supporting diversity inequality.
But I left my brains near the front door and
I left home that day. But it's too late for
him because brands like Mom, the Champagne Kings, Goldman Sachs
and others have severed every time they've got with the
nomad group. And I don't think it's stopped there.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Jeez, I'll tell you what. How much is a Tim
Tam with you people?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Now? Well, there's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's a story that's been confected again pardon the pun,
but Tim Tams were on sale in coals.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And with the big signs all half priced. They're three dollars.
Ooh well, a journal for Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He went in there, it popped it out on x
which was formerly Twitter.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What about six dollars Tim Tams? Everyone's going nuts? How
dare they?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean, this is an Australian confection anyway, it feeds
into this narrative. Once upon a time in Australia, the
banks here that were the baskets. Now we're busy bashing up,
and with very good reason on the back of this inquiry.
This year, supermarkets have been fleecing us. They've been saying,
you know, have this fantastic deal half price, but you know,
(04:20):
guess what a minute ago it was. You know, they've
just been scamming us and there's very a significant parliamentary
inquiry found just that. And now Alila feeds into the narrative.
Now supermarkets, the ones that we hate this week airst
six dollars apparently, but you can get them for three dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Three dollars is a bargain, mask because you can go
to New World in New Zealand and pay five dollars
fifty for them.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
For tim Tams, Really, how are you getting the packet
a dozen?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I don't know, I haven't counted them, but I can
do that for you because that'll give me an excuse
to buy it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Listen, we call it research.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I call it research for you, and you know what
it is. Biscuit Thursday at work today, Thanks Laura. So
we'll go out and have a lot after five o'clock
and I'll find out for you, come back to you.
Murray Old's Australia correspondent, Geez, I love biscuit Thursday at work.
It's honestly something like today at around I was walking
to the gym this morning. I thought it's biscuit Thursday.
(05:13):
It was midday. I was already thinking about what was
going to happen at five o'clock. How sad is that
I'm pregnant? I'm allowed for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Listen live to news
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Talks the'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
Murray Old's Ozzie correspondent with us. Now he mus good afternoon, Heather,
So Lydia thorpey, So did she swear allegiance to the
queen's heirs or the queen's hairs?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Oh? Look, I mean talk about hair splitting part in
the punt.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Look, the fact of the matter is another week, another
Lydia Thorpe headline.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's as though she's just out there looking for headlines.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
She's hit back after suggestions that she was an absolute
muffet last week with her protest in Parliament at that
parliamentary reception for the King and Queen. And look a
lot of people saying she did well. She promoted her
indigenous cause and she's obviously very passionate about it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Others said, what are you doing? You're a clown.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You swore allegiance to his mother. Now she says, well, no,
I didn't. Actually I did not swear allegiance to her heirs,
to her hairs h a irs, Well, Lydia, and then
she says, oh, look, because my grammar's not as good
as yours.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh, and Peter Dutton, you can put your head in
as well. I'm not going anywhere how dare you question
my legitimacy.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
There's the point if she didn't swear allegiance to the
queen's heirs, and she swore allegiance to the queen's but
he has on her head, Well, is she a legitimate senator?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
So look, she's looking for a headline. She's getting it.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
We're still talking about her, and as Oscar Wilde said,
there's only one thing worse than.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Being talked about, and that's not she's there for another
three and a half years, and said, I'm going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Listen, tell me. You're obviously closer to the action, so
you'll know better. But from where I'm sitting, it looks
like she did actually deliberately swear allegiance to the hairs
so that she didn't swear allegiance to the airs, and
then she fished that up, and then when the controversy
blew up, she retracted it because it was getting too hot.
Is that basically what happened.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
That's what's happened. Yeah, God, do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Do you make her go back and do it properly
or what?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
That look, I don't know. The presiding officers of the Senate.
We'll obviously have a view on this. It hasn't been
It has been spoken about, I'm sure today certainly Katie Gallagher,
the the Government leader in the Senate, was pretty hot
and strong about it. It's not up to Galagher, it's
not up to labor. It is up to the presiding offices.
So where this particular mop flops, I'm not sure will
(02:11):
Thorpe have to go back and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Do it again or does she get kicked out?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, they can't kick her out, but she's a bit
like Fatima payment for labor. She was a lucky recipient
of a Senate seat when the Greens picked her pre
selected to go in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
She says, I'm going nowhere. I'm there for another three
and a half years.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And yeah, okay, now listen, explain something to me. Why
did this guy the restrateur, why did he have a
swastika at that rally? What's the point?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Well, well, yeah, exactly. I mean, this is a guy
called Al Yaznek. He owns some very high profile restaurants
in Sydney and in Melbourne, the Nomad group, and for
reasons best known to himself, he turns up at a
pro Palestine rally with a sign with basically, the star
of David removed and a big Nazi swastik is stuck
(02:59):
in the mid well have surprised surprise. He's been arrested
in charge and now he's pleaded guilty to display to
knowingly displaying a Nazi symbol in public.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's against the law. And now that he's another muppet,
isn't he?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Because he's put out the sand Stock standard statement. I'm
not an anti said mind, I'm passionate about supporting diversity inequality.
But I left my brains near the front door and
I left home that day. But it's too late for
him because brands like Mom, the Champagne Kings, Goldman Sachs
and others have severed every time they've got with the
nomad group. And I don't think it's stopped there.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Jeez, I'll tell you what. How much is a Tim
Tam with you people?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Now? Well, there's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's a story that's been confected again pardon the pun,
but Tim Tams were on sale in coals.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And with the big signs all half priced. They're three dollars.
Ooh well, a journal for Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
He went in there, it popped it out on x
which was formerly Twitter.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
What about six dollars Tim Tams? Everyone's going nuts? How
dare they?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean, this is an Australian confection anyway, it feeds
into this narrative. Once upon a time in Australia, the
banks here that were the baskets. Now we're busy bashing up,
and with very good reason on the back of this inquiry.
This year, supermarkets have been fleecing us. They've been saying,
you know, have this fantastic deal half price, but you know,
(04:20):
guess what a minute ago it was. You know, they've
just been scamming us and there's very a significant parliamentary
inquiry found just that. And now Alila feeds into the narrative.
Now supermarkets, the ones that we hate this week airst
six dollars apparently, but you can get them for three dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Three dollars is a bargain, mask because you can go
to New World in New Zealand and pay five dollars
fifty for them.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
For tim Tams, Really, how are you getting the packet
a dozen?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I don't know, I haven't counted them, but I can
do that for you because that'll give me an excuse
to buy it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Listen, we call it research.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I call it research for you, and you know what
it is. Biscuit Thursday at work today, Thanks Laura. So
we'll go out and have a lot after five o'clock
and I'll find out for you, come back to you.
Murray Old's Australia correspondent, Geez, I love biscuit Thursday at work.
It's honestly something like today at around I was walking
to the gym this morning. I thought it's biscuit Thursday.
(05:13):
It was midday. I was already thinking about what was
going to happen at five o'clock. How sad is that
I'm pregnant? I'm allowed for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Listen live to news
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Talks the'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio.
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