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October 15, 2025 2 mins

Hospitality New Zealand is throwing its support behind a Government inspection of sector rules.

Its wide-ranging review will investigate rules for everything from bars, to restaurants - to market stalls.

Regulation Minister David Seymour says existing rules change frequently and are inconsistently applied.

Hospitality NZ's Sam MacKinnon says the sector has to work through a 'myriad' of regulations just to operate - and this review presents a good opportunity. 

"While there are some of these really stupid rules that are in place, the opportunity for the industry to be able to have a comprehensive look at all of the different areas that cut across what it takes to run a hospitality venue is the real opportunity here." 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bars, restaurant's, hotels Whole Bunch are next up for David
Seymour's red tape cutting. Now he has tasked the Ministry
of Regulation with reviewing hospitality industry rules Hospitality New Zealand.
Sam McKinnon is with us. Hey, Sam, Heather, how, I'm
very well, thank you give me the stupidest rule that
you've come across.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Do you know that grandparents can't take grandkids to the
pub because they're not considered legal guardians?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
That is that's pretty dumb. So was that even if
what's under the age of what.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Under eighteen? So in a supervised area, you can have
an under eighteen can be in a supervised area as
long as they were the parent or a legal guardian.
But if your grandparents not considered your legal guardian, they
can't take you to And this is.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
And Sam, this is not even the kid drinking. Hey,
that's the kid just being there.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, exactly just being on the on the premise exactly.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Okay, you're punting that one to David Seymour's ministry to
get that one got rid of.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
That will definitely be on the list. Yeah, I mean,
I guess one of the things for us as the
terms of reference notes that there's about thirteen different ministerial
portfolios that this review could impact, and so that kind
of speaks to the myriad of regulations that that hospitality
has to find its way through just to operate a business.

(01:17):
And so, yeah, I mean the point of the review
for US, I guess, while there are some of these
raally sort of stupid rules that are in place, the
opportunity for the industry to be able to have a
comprehensive look at all of the different areas that cut
across what it takes to run a hospitality venue is
the real opportunity here.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
How much do you reckon these rules are costing you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, I mean it's obviously hard to put a dollar
figure on that, but you know, we know that there's
opportunities costs. So the rules and rigs that we're facing,
we're regularly here from our members that that impacts their
investment decisions or the number of staff that they're trying
to employ, and that obviously has flow ons to how
the industry grows or how the business itself grows. So

(02:05):
I think, you know, being able to cut through some
of this stuff, and I guess just provide some certainty
for business owners and in a clearer sort of way
forward is the key thing for us.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, Sam, good to talk to you, Appreciate you time,
make best of luck with it at Sam McKinnon Hospitality,
New Zealand. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen
live to news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,
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