38 shops are empty in Auckland's Queen Street.
The Herald’s Simon Wilson told Heather du-Plessis Allen a penalty could help.
He says revitalising the city starts with the shops ... which bring people in.
“You then have a light in the place, you have less crime you have more commerce, you know, you have more people enjoying themselves. But it has to start with the shops, it can’t start with anything else.”
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