There's shock among Kiwi rugby fans, as Stephen Perofeta has been given the nod to start at fullback for the All Blacks in the first match of the year against England.
He's pipped fellow Taranaki and Blues playmaker Beauden Barrett to the starting role at 15 for Saturday's test in Dunedin, with the veteran of 119 tests on the bench.
Former All Black Sir John Kirwan says this is a wise choice ahead of the match.
"I think Beauden will need a little bit of time to get back at that level, and Stephen Perofeta has been a form player in the last few weeks."
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ever due for c Ellens.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Scott Raiser Robinson has named his first ever Test match
squad as the AB's coach. Bad day for Boden Barrett
because Boden missed out on fullback seven seven. Perafeta got that.
He missed out on first five. Damian McKenzie got that.
Sir John Kerwin is a former All Black high JK.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How are we? I'm very well, chat, I'm very well.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm having a better day, I think than Boden Barriners.
So tell me why do you think Rasor picked Stephen
Perafetta over body in fullback?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I think this body's been in Japan playing so he
hasn't played any super rugby, just got back and I
think it's a really wise choice. I think, you know,
Boden will need a little bit of time to get
back at that level. So and Stephen Perfetta has been,
you know, a form player in the last few weeks,
(00:52):
although it has been injured. You know, I think Boden,
for me, he goes down and the jury status because
he could have left, but he's coming back and I
think we'll see him well. Though he probably might not
be that happy with sitting on the bench and he
full try and force his way in. We might see
him a little bit, you know, just coming on late
to solve problem situations.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And so obviously the same reason for picking Damien McKenzie
over Bowden Barrett and the number ten Jersey, do you
e Reckon? Damien's actually good enough? Like I'm a fan
of his, are you?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, I'm a really big fan. I think he brings
a different dimension to the game, and I think the
most important thing with damiens led him to play ten
the way he likes to play it. That means players
around him might need to adjust. So I think when
you've got someone like Damien McKenzie at ten, you do
need to think about what's going on around him and
how we can really free him up. I think you'll
(01:41):
see him play a little bit in the backfield, so
him and Stephen Petefetta might swap a wee bit so
that there's kicks back. You might even see both of
them back there. So I think that's really exciting because
if you give Damien any space, he's really going to
take it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, we were speculating before that. What's been pointed out
is that Razor has picked a team of people who
have played before who've got experience under the belt, and
we were speculating before that that's an indication that he
is himself feeling the pressure that he needs to win
this first Test.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What do you think, he's an all back coach. He
needs to win first. I'm sure he's got a big
plan in place about bringing new players through, but he
needs to win Test matches in New Zealand. Public demand that,
and I would say it's the wisest thing he could
have done. You know, he's had a lot of retirements,
(02:29):
he's had a lot of big players that have left,
but he has actually gone right, Okay, here we go.
We've got enough experience in this team. This is a
really good English side as well. I think that you know,
they've had a chance to go and Japan and have
a warm up game. So I think it was really
really wise. I thought there might be a couple of
you know, a couple of guys on the bench that
(02:50):
might be new Caps, but I understand fully ways and
gone that way.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Hey were you at the government's mental health announcement today?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I was. I was really stoked to be there. Actually,
I think they are Look, there's three things that are
really really important for me. You cannot centralize mental health,
so it needs to be a community issue. There are
some amazing you know, I travel the country. There's some
amazing people in the community that are doing great mental
(03:18):
health work. So we need to finance them. The second
thing is we've got to start talking about preventive mental health.
How do we stop pushing people off the cliff? And
you know, I think what this government has said. If
we give ten million this year and these people come
back to us and say this is working in the community,
you know we've got this program that's working, here's the proof,
(03:39):
they're going to extend on that money. So community is
where it's at. And if you're out there and you've
got these programs in place where you know you're making
a different to mental health, then I would say apply
for it. I think it's and innovation is the word
we need. You know, this is a worldwide problem, as
you know. I mean there's eight hundred thousand people committed
suicide last year, right, so this is a crisis around
(04:02):
the world, and our beautiful little country is way up
there in the bad stats. So what we've been doing,
and I don't think this is anyone's fault. What we've
been doing is not working, so we need to try
and attack this differently. So innovation, giving money to the community,
then proving back that it works, and then giving them
more money is definitely what I think we should be doing.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
John, Thank you very much, really appreciate sir John Kerb
and former All Black and of course mental health advocate.
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Listen live to news talks.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
Ever due for c Ellens.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Scott Raiser Robinson has named his first ever Test match
squad as the AB's coach. Bad day for Boden Barrett
because Boden missed out on fullback seven seven. Perafeta got that.
He missed out on first five. Damian McKenzie got that.
Sir John Kerwin is a former All Black high JK.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
How are we? I'm very well, chat, I'm very well.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm having a better day, I think than Boden Barriners.
So tell me why do you think Rasor picked Stephen
Perafetta over body in fullback?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I think this body's been in Japan playing so he
hasn't played any super rugby, just got back and I
think it's a really wise choice. I think, you know,
Boden will need a little bit of time to get
back at that level. So and Stephen Perfetta has been,
you know, a form player in the last few weeks,
(00:52):
although it has been injured. You know, I think Boden,
for me, he goes down and the jury status because
he could have left, but he's coming back and I
think we'll see him well. Though he probably might not
be that happy with sitting on the bench and he
full try and force his way in. We might see
him a little bit, you know, just coming on late
to solve problem situations.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And so obviously the same reason for picking Damien McKenzie
over Bowden Barrett and the number ten Jersey, do you
e Reckon? Damien's actually good enough? Like I'm a fan
of his, are you?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, I'm a really big fan. I think he brings
a different dimension to the game, and I think the
most important thing with damiens led him to play ten
the way he likes to play it. That means players
around him might need to adjust. So I think when
you've got someone like Damien McKenzie at ten, you do
need to think about what's going on around him and
how we can really free him up. I think you'll
(01:41):
see him play a little bit in the backfield, so
him and Stephen Petefetta might swap a wee bit so
that there's kicks back. You might even see both of
them back there. So I think that's really exciting because
if you give Damien any space, he's really going to
take it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, we were speculating before that. What's been pointed out
is that Razor has picked a team of people who
have played before who've got experience under the belt, and
we were speculating before that that's an indication that he
is himself feeling the pressure that he needs to win
this first Test.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What do you think, he's an all back coach. He
needs to win first. I'm sure he's got a big
plan in place about bringing new players through, but he
needs to win Test matches in New Zealand. Public demand that,
and I would say it's the wisest thing he could
have done. You know, he's had a lot of retirements,
(02:29):
he's had a lot of big players that have left,
but he has actually gone right, Okay, here we go.
We've got enough experience in this team. This is a
really good English side as well. I think that you know,
they've had a chance to go and Japan and have
a warm up game. So I think it was really
really wise. I thought there might be a couple of
you know, a couple of guys on the bench that
(02:50):
might be new Caps, but I understand fully ways and
gone that way.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Hey were you at the government's mental health announcement today?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I was. I was really stoked to be there. Actually,
I think they are Look, there's three things that are
really really important for me. You cannot centralize mental health,
so it needs to be a community issue. There are
some amazing you know, I travel the country. There's some
amazing people in the community that are doing great mental
(03:18):
health work. So we need to finance them. The second
thing is we've got to start talking about preventive mental health.
How do we stop pushing people off the cliff? And
you know, I think what this government has said. If
we give ten million this year and these people come
back to us and say this is working in the community,
you know we've got this program that's working, here's the proof,
(03:39):
they're going to extend on that money. So community is
where it's at. And if you're out there and you've
got these programs in place where you know you're making
a different to mental health, then I would say apply
for it. I think it's and innovation is the word
we need. You know, this is a worldwide problem, as
you know. I mean there's eight hundred thousand people committed
suicide last year, right, so this is a crisis around
(04:02):
the world, and our beautiful little country is way up
there in the bad stats. So what we've been doing,
and I don't think this is anyone's fault. What we've
been doing is not working, so we need to try
and attack this differently. So innovation, giving money to the community,
then proving back that it works, and then giving them
more money is definitely what I think we should be doing.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
John, Thank you very much, really appreciate sir John Kerb
and former All Black and of course mental health advocate.
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Listen live to news talks.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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