June 6, 2025 • 9 mins
Sports Journalist Andrew Gourdie and Oceania Football Confederation Spokesperson Matt Brown join Heather du Plessis-Allan for the Sports Huddle.
Rob Walter has been announced as the new Black Caps coach - how big a loss is Gary Stead for the team?
Super Rugby finals quarter-finals are on this weekend. What can we expect?
And Red Bull have confirmed they will offer Yuki Tsunoda a luxury Liam Lawson was never afforded - “time and support”.
The Sports Huddle discusses all this and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It will be a first job Sammy Final on Friday,
Saca smashes her way into a first rollo Gail's.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Final patience will a chance to win it?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Final second still fouls to do, Haliburton, walking, halt, driving,
poss up, jump shot. Let's go on with three tons
of a second remaining, tie him out.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, see Tyrenes. Haliburton does it again.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hay on the huddle with us this evening. In the
sports title, Mat Brown, boss of communications at Oceania Football,
and Andrew Gordy, sports commentator, Hello you too right now,
Andrew Gordy, do you want to say gooday to him?
Or did you read.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I see here? Before we go any further though, I said,
we need to offer a hard and congratulations you are
on your award last night give a sports panel. I
feel like we need to offer sort of some sporting
punditary analysis off your award and your impact across the season.
I mean, Matt, I don't know about you, but when
I see when I see dupussy Allen on the team sheet,
(01:10):
it just it brings a whole other level to the game.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The park and everything you know? Do you know what
I do?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You absolutely, And can I just say this very quickly,
I am never ever going to be horrible to any
of those sports players for when they you know, when
they win something and they come and give the world's
most boring speech. Because I said earlier, I said what
I would have said if I was there, and somebody
text me and was like, it was a good thing
you weren't there. That was really boring And it's really
hard to put together a good speech, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Well, apparently Lord did a great job. There you go,
and unless the ratings always spoke Andrew at around about
five pin forty on a Friday, anyway, that's what you
do with that, of.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Course, nothing to do with So that's when we bring
in our impact players, which is what you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Guys are Matt just riding the pie man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I've got to say I feel sorry for Rob that
he's got that accent, because there is nothing more that
we like doing than being really mean to foreigners. And
the minute that he does something, we don't because we're
mean to Gary. But we're going to be very mean
to Rob, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So sure? I think I think because as a rugby player,
rug if somebody had a South African coach in the
your Blacks definitely, I think. But for cricket, no, I
mean think of Grand Elliott, the South African accent winning
that World Cup. Semi fine on that incredible, but he
was the greatest match in New Zealand. No, it wasn't
a coach, but we've had a lot of South African
influence in the New Zealand side over the years. Yet
(02:28):
one stage, the first Vola Ellen Donald was an assistant coach.
So yeah, look, I think good luck to him. He's
got a good record, very good record, both domestically here
and obviously with what the prote is and getting too
that last one.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Remember you remember what I'm saying now, And the first
time that he does something that we know because we
called for Gary's head at least about seven times, and
the first time that we call for for his head,
it's going to that's going to come up, is not y,
I bet you, Gordy. Do you think that the truth
about why they wouldn't give why they wouldn't give Gary
the one you know, the red ball and somebody else
the white ball in the other formats and whatnot, is
(03:00):
because we simply don't have enough players to split between
two or three coaches. Is that the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know if it's enough players, but I just
I think it's the right call to keep one touch
across three formats. I don't think that's a that's not
a blanket view that I have, But when you have
a certain number of players who compete across all three formats,
if you had completely different sets of players for blackball
and red ball, I think it would. It would work
it with suit having two coaches, but not when there's
(03:27):
that crossover, because then if you have two coaches, you
have two completely sets of different sort of expectations, ways
of running the team, completely different cultures. So I think
it's the right call, and I think New Zealand Cricket
has made the right call by giving it to Rob.
No offense to BONDI, but I think Rob has great
experience both within New Zealand domestic cricket and the national
cricket as a head coach. So I like the call.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That absolutely? Yeah? I can't agree more with the Really
what introduce said there? I think look, he's residing hawk
Stay best part of the country as well, So yeah,
and all serious to say, yeah, I think it is
a student move and I'm not sure we do have
that much depth. The depth really at the top level.
Two have three different sets of players. I mean there
is going to be cross over. There always will be here.
(04:11):
Some of the best players will be able to play
multiple forms of the game.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
All right, guys, take a break, come back to you
very shortly. The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South
of E's International real Zy, the ones with local and
global reach shrut your back with the Sports Hitle Andrew
Gordy and Matt Brown Gordy listen. Pretty much everybody who
matters reckons that the playoffs format for the Super Rugby
is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What do you think, I think you're a loser if
you like having a lucky loser in the Super Rugby
playoffs is what I think. It just stinks, doesn't know.
I'm firmly of the belief that when you get to
the quarterfinals, in the semi finals, they should be knockout
and so the idea that you can lose a quarter
final and still advance to the next round just thinks
(04:52):
to me. And I especially hate that the Brumbies Hurricanes
game is the last game of the round. It would
make more sense if that was, say, the first time
of the round, because then they're waiting to sort of
learn their fate. The reality is that both of those
teams are likely, based on the book, is odds to
know their fate by the time they go into that
game at nine thirty five on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, adds a bit of jeopardy to it, Elliott Smith. So, Matt,
what Elliot Smith says should happen is that you rest
the two top teams, which would be the Blues and
the Crusaders, right, and then you let the other four
do sudden death, and then two get to advance and
play the two top teams and then well.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's what Yeah, that's what I've been the A League
you had that, although although it was a two legged
semi final, is a difference in the football scenario. But yeah,
it's either one. It's either you know, three plays what
three plays six? Four places five and then the two
teams under a sixteen finals format if you move away
from straight quarter finals. Look, last week I was completely
confused because I was actually watching right than my dad,
(05:49):
and we were working out the permitations and that's actually
what I thought happened. So there you go. I was
completely wrong. And then I was driving somewhere and hearing
that format and thinking, oh my goodness, this is just
so wrong on so many and the fact that the
Hurricanes and Brumby's both of that could well get a
second life.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Hey, listen to what do you guys think? Gordie else
start with you. What do you think about the netball huddle?
Is that lame?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's really lame and it's just outdated. I think it's
unrealistic in the in the professional era to expect players
to continue to do that. Having said that, I think
the game of netball's got much better problems on hands
than whether both teams should come together in a huddle
at full time, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
What I mean? Yeah, that's a fair point, isn't it.
But we can start with the lame thing, can't we met?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. I mean teams that you know you're
playing hard out on the court. I mean, when you
Sealing in Australia play the Silver Fans. I mean it
always It's always occurred to me as being this nicey
niciness at the end of the game. Come on, you're
hard en, up, hard and up.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You want you want to prop a scrap a If
you're going to scrap, you don't want to stand there
with your arms around your sweaty mate?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Do you play?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Who wants to get your your mate sweet all over
your arm pits, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I reckon, I reckon Gordon that Liam Lawson has, you know,
is entitled to feel a little bit pipped because these
guys are giving you key some time and support, but
he never had that.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, but I understand what you're saying, so long as
you actually believe what rear Ball is saying to him.
Why should we believe anything that comes out of the
mouth of these Red Bull bosses. Because it was absolute
lip service when it came to Liam Lawson. What's to
say it's not completing outer lip service when it comes
to Uki Sonoda as well. Now do I actually believe that?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't. I think they will give them the time
and support that he apparently needs, because I think there's
strong forces at play when it comes to deciding which
drivers fill which seats at which manufacturer. But yeah, I
would feel a bit aggrieved by as Liam Lawson, But
I wouldn't necessarily be taking everything these Red Bull bosses
say as absolute true, maybe we wait and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Point by the way, apparently it's the Chief's Crusaders, not
the Blues Crusaders.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Chief is the Chiefs Blues, inn't it?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
He's still confused?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
See not, no, no, not who's playing each other? I said,
who the top two teams are. It's not the Blues
and the Crusaders, the Chiefs and the Crusaders.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Absolutely yeah, giving them both a weak off. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No, one should listen to me about Super Rugby. I
don't watch it famously in my world. Matt, listen, can
you weigh on on something for me? Because you are
a media boss, aren't You're a media boss, aren't you?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, it's two hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars for
the media boss of the Ministry of Disabled People. A
little bit on the march side.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I'm in the wrong job. I'm definitely in the wrong
job if it is. Oh yeah, exactly, I mean I
would have thought. So what do they do anyway?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, they just call for more ramps and iPads, don't they,
and then tell them tell the National government off when
they take stuff away from disabled people. I mean, it's
the easiest job in the world, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't want to get my TV ready this weekend,
but any.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, no, well anyway, listen, it just got to seek
and I'll send you the Lincoln a minute. Guys, thank
you very much, appreciate it. Matt Brown, boss of Comm's
at Media, boss at Oceania Football, and Andrew Gordy, sports commentator.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
For more from Hither Dupless and Drive, listen live to
news Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
It will be a first job Sammy Final on Friday,
Saca smashes her way into a first rollo Gail's.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Final patience will a chance to win it?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Final second still fouls to do, Haliburton, walking, halt, driving,
poss up, jump shot. Let's go on with three tons
of a second remaining, tie him out.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Okay, see Tyrenes. Haliburton does it again.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Hay on the huddle with us this evening. In the
sports title, Mat Brown, boss of communications at Oceania Football,
and Andrew Gordy, sports commentator, Hello you too right now,
Andrew Gordy, do you want to say gooday to him?
Or did you read.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I see here? Before we go any further though, I said,
we need to offer a hard and congratulations you are
on your award last night give a sports panel. I
feel like we need to offer sort of some sporting
punditary analysis off your award and your impact across the season.
I mean, Matt, I don't know about you, but when
I see when I see dupussy Allen on the team sheet,
(01:10):
it just it brings a whole other level to the game.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Doesn't know.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The park and everything you know? Do you know what
I do?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
You absolutely, And can I just say this very quickly,
I am never ever going to be horrible to any
of those sports players for when they you know, when
they win something and they come and give the world's
most boring speech. Because I said earlier, I said what
I would have said if I was there, and somebody
text me and was like, it was a good thing
you weren't there. That was really boring And it's really
hard to put together a good speech, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Well, apparently Lord did a great job. There you go,
and unless the ratings always spoke Andrew at around about
five pin forty on a Friday, anyway, that's what you
do with that, of.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Course, nothing to do with So that's when we bring
in our impact players, which is what you.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Guys are Matt just riding the pie man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I've got to say I feel sorry for Rob that
he's got that accent, because there is nothing more that
we like doing than being really mean to foreigners. And
the minute that he does something, we don't because we're
mean to Gary. But we're going to be very mean
to Rob, aren't we.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So sure? I think I think because as a rugby player,
rug if somebody had a South African coach in the
your Blacks definitely, I think. But for cricket, no, I
mean think of Grand Elliott, the South African accent winning
that World Cup. Semi fine on that incredible, but he
was the greatest match in New Zealand. No, it wasn't
a coach, but we've had a lot of South African
influence in the New Zealand side over the years. Yet
(02:28):
one stage, the first Vola Ellen Donald was an assistant coach.
So yeah, look, I think good luck to him. He's
got a good record, very good record, both domestically here
and obviously with what the prote is and getting too
that last one.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Remember you remember what I'm saying now, And the first
time that he does something that we know because we
called for Gary's head at least about seven times, and
the first time that we call for for his head,
it's going to that's going to come up, is not y,
I bet you, Gordy. Do you think that the truth
about why they wouldn't give why they wouldn't give Gary
the one you know, the red ball and somebody else
the white ball in the other formats and whatnot, is
(03:00):
because we simply don't have enough players to split between
two or three coaches. Is that the truth.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know if it's enough players, but I just
I think it's the right call to keep one touch
across three formats. I don't think that's a that's not
a blanket view that I have, But when you have
a certain number of players who compete across all three formats,
if you had completely different sets of players for blackball
and red ball, I think it would. It would work
it with suit having two coaches, but not when there's
(03:27):
that crossover, because then if you have two coaches, you
have two completely sets of different sort of expectations, ways
of running the team, completely different cultures. So I think
it's the right call, and I think New Zealand Cricket
has made the right call by giving it to Rob.
No offense to BONDI, but I think Rob has great
experience both within New Zealand domestic cricket and the national
cricket as a head coach. So I like the call.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That absolutely? Yeah? I can't agree more with the Really
what introduce said there? I think look, he's residing hawk
Stay best part of the country as well, So yeah,
and all serious to say, yeah, I think it is
a student move and I'm not sure we do have
that much depth. The depth really at the top level.
Two have three different sets of players. I mean there
is going to be cross over. There always will be here.
(04:11):
Some of the best players will be able to play
multiple forms of the game.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
All right, guys, take a break, come back to you
very shortly. The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South
of E's International real Zy, the ones with local and
global reach shrut your back with the Sports Hitle Andrew
Gordy and Matt Brown Gordy listen. Pretty much everybody who
matters reckons that the playoffs format for the Super Rugby
is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
What do you think, I think you're a loser if
you like having a lucky loser in the Super Rugby
playoffs is what I think. It just stinks, doesn't know.
I'm firmly of the belief that when you get to
the quarterfinals, in the semi finals, they should be knockout
and so the idea that you can lose a quarter
final and still advance to the next round just thinks
(04:52):
to me. And I especially hate that the Brumbies Hurricanes
game is the last game of the round. It would
make more sense if that was, say, the first time
of the round, because then they're waiting to sort of
learn their fate. The reality is that both of those
teams are likely, based on the book, is odds to
know their fate by the time they go into that
game at nine thirty five on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, adds a bit of jeopardy to it, Elliott Smith. So, Matt,
what Elliot Smith says should happen is that you rest
the two top teams, which would be the Blues and
the Crusaders, right, and then you let the other four
do sudden death, and then two get to advance and
play the two top teams and then well.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
That's what Yeah, that's what I've been the A League
you had that, although although it was a two legged
semi final, is a difference in the football scenario. But yeah,
it's either one. It's either you know, three plays what
three plays six? Four places five and then the two
teams under a sixteen finals format if you move away
from straight quarter finals. Look, last week I was completely
confused because I was actually watching right than my dad,
(05:49):
and we were working out the permitations and that's actually
what I thought happened. So there you go. I was
completely wrong. And then I was driving somewhere and hearing
that format and thinking, oh my goodness, this is just
so wrong on so many and the fact that the
Hurricanes and Brumby's both of that could well get a
second life.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Hey, listen to what do you guys think? Gordie else
start with you. What do you think about the netball huddle?
Is that lame?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's really lame and it's just outdated. I think it's
unrealistic in the in the professional era to expect players
to continue to do that. Having said that, I think
the game of netball's got much better problems on hands
than whether both teams should come together in a huddle
at full time, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
What I mean? Yeah, that's a fair point, isn't it.
But we can start with the lame thing, can't we met?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. I mean teams that you know you're
playing hard out on the court. I mean, when you
Sealing in Australia play the Silver Fans. I mean it
always It's always occurred to me as being this nicey
niciness at the end of the game. Come on, you're
hard en, up, hard and up.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You want you want to prop a scrap a If
you're going to scrap, you don't want to stand there
with your arms around your sweaty mate?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Do you play?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Who wants to get your your mate sweet all over
your arm pits, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:52):
I reckon, I reckon Gordon that Liam Lawson has, you know,
is entitled to feel a little bit pipped because these
guys are giving you key some time and support, but
he never had that.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, but I understand what you're saying, so long as
you actually believe what rear Ball is saying to him.
Why should we believe anything that comes out of the
mouth of these Red Bull bosses. Because it was absolute
lip service when it came to Liam Lawson. What's to
say it's not completing outer lip service when it comes
to Uki Sonoda as well. Now do I actually believe that?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't. I think they will give them the time
and support that he apparently needs, because I think there's
strong forces at play when it comes to deciding which
drivers fill which seats at which manufacturer. But yeah, I
would feel a bit aggrieved by as Liam Lawson, But
I wouldn't necessarily be taking everything these Red Bull bosses
say as absolute true, maybe we wait and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Point by the way, apparently it's the Chief's Crusaders, not
the Blues Crusaders.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Chief is the Chiefs Blues, inn't it?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
He's still confused?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
See not, no, no, not who's playing each other? I said,
who the top two teams are. It's not the Blues
and the Crusaders, the Chiefs and the Crusaders.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Absolutely yeah, giving them both a weak off. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
No, one should listen to me about Super Rugby. I
don't watch it famously in my world. Matt, listen, can
you weigh on on something for me? Because you are
a media boss, aren't You're a media boss, aren't you?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, it's two hundred and fifty eight thousand dollars for
the media boss of the Ministry of Disabled People. A
little bit on the march side.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I'm in the wrong job. I'm definitely in the wrong
job if it is. Oh yeah, exactly, I mean I
would have thought. So what do they do anyway?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Well, they just call for more ramps and iPads, don't they,
and then tell them tell the National government off when
they take stuff away from disabled people. I mean, it's
the easiest job in the world, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't want to get my TV ready this weekend,
but any.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Okay, no, well anyway, listen, it just got to seek
and I'll send you the Lincoln a minute. Guys, thank
you very much, appreciate it. Matt Brown, boss of Comm's
at Media, boss at Oceania Football, and Andrew Gordy, sports commentator.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
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the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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