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March 21, 2025 • 12 mins

One News Sports Editor Abby Wilson and Sports Journalist Jim Kayes join the Huddle. 

The All Whites are playing Fiji tonight in a 2026 World Cup qualifier - The Huddle it's a definite New Zealand will take home the win. What could our impact on the World Cup be? 

The Huddle is still reeling from the Warriors performance in Las Vegas, but can they pull off a win this weekend? The team is playing at home tonight against the Sydney Roosters. 

Western Springs has everyone talking - should it be a music or sporting venue? 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here on News Talk se B time is twenty two
minutes away from.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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realty find You're one of a.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Kind on the halfway line and New Zealand has won
the match. Mission accomplished. New Zealand finer footballing hours, close
spots stayler heads South Africa twenty.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Eight years old and look you here, that's Spanish.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Honestly he'stility all lunch back to football's biggest stage.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
New Zealand have made the impossible possible.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
It's finished.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Italy won New Zealand one. This is the sports title
for your Friday evening. Abbie Wilson one, New Sports Edien
with us tonight. Hi Abby, Hello, great to have you
on the show. And Jim Kay's producer of the Breakdown
at Sky TV, is with us too. Hey, Jim Cado Ryan.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Hello, Eb's nice to have you back mate, Thank you,
Jim Hello Hello.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Now Ricky has been quite diplomatic there, but the tob
has Fiji. I think forty one dollars to win, so
it should be easy enough abbe for us, said the
cake tin Ah.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yes he was being very diplomatic. I mean, I think
there are fifty nine ranking positions between the two teams.
So New Zealand undoubtedly should win, although as we know
in football, every now and then there's an outrageous upset.
But if you sort of look at the probability, New
Zealand should stroll into the final on Monday and really

(01:34):
should stroll into the World Cup, which is it's great,
it's great for Oceania. Will we see the same scenes
we saw if we call a high that we saw
in two thousand and nine for that great game in
bar Rang Maybe not, because maybe it has taken a
little bit of the luster off the accomplishment, but the
result is the same and you still get to go
to a World Cup.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, Jim, what's your take on that?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, I know that you were sort of hypothesizing is
it too easy? I was sort of thinking about it.
Who cares? You know, like, if it gets New Zealand
to the World Cup, then then fantastic. Ocean it's a
big area. Yes, it's not as strong as some of
the other football in areas, but you know, you can
only go the route that you can go, and if
it's an easy route, then fantastic. And if we get

(02:20):
the All Whites playing on a World Cup stage for
only the third time, then that's fantastic as well. So
I sort of look at and go, well, you know,
if it's yeah, as I say, if it's easy, great,
you know, the result is that the All Whites will
go to the World Cup. Surely that's what we all
want is as sports fans.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, don't self fledge late and try and take a
hard road when there's an easy one.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
That's exactly right, you know, And there's two parts we
can go here, a really hard one or an easy one.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
But also there are disadvantages to playing from down in
New Zealand. You know, we're disadvantage with where we are,
how far away we are from teams. It's kind of
nice if there is an advance to our isolation and things.
It's almost about time, exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
The journey of isolation has worked against the Yellow sports
sense for a very long time. So this time if
it works in our favor, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Guys, you've really turned my negative attitude about this right around.
Well done. Abbie Wilson and Jim Kay's on the Sports Huddle.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand South Ofy's International
real Zy, the ones with local and global reach.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Abbie Wilson and Jim Kay's on the sports Huddle tonight,
Welcome back guys now. Last Friday, I was told unequivocally
on this huddle that the Warriors would lose. And I
know it wasn't you two that said this, but that
the Warriors would lose. And then I last minute bord
a ticket, went to the game, fantastic fun and they won.
So what happens Jim this weekend?

Speaker 3 (03:50):
That's a great thing about sport, Ryan, isn't it? Um?
Who would know? Especially with the Warriors. I'm going to
say that the Warriors went again at home, home ground, advantage,
unchanged team again, but I'm a momentum behind them, so
I'm going to pick a Warrior's win. But truly, I

(04:11):
don't think anyone really knows because they're a little bit
of an up and down team at the moment, and
I think they had been for about a year or so,
so you know, you could be Are you going again tonight?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
No, I'm not going tonight. I've got other things on.
But I would actually go back for Abbie. I would
actually go back for the fireworks at halftime. That was
fairwelling Tohu Harris. Honestly, it was bigger than Matadiki, bigger
than Guy Fawkes combined. I've never seen anything like it.
I thought, how big is their marketing budgets?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
I'm not sure they'd like to know that the only
reason you want to go back is the fireworks rather
than on the field fireworks. But I live on the
shore and I did look at my window as I
was watching it to see if I could see them
from that far away, because they looked impressive.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
They certainly were. So who do you think?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Is are they on form and they out of form?
What do you think about the condition games?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Wh Who would know? After two games?

Speaker 4 (05:02):
I think Jim's right, like this is the hard thing
with the Warriors. I would not beat my house on it.
Let's just say that they when they're great, they're great
when they're awful, like in Vegas, they're awful. And so
we're early in the season. I usually temporary expectations around
the Warriors, so I'd love to see them win. But
I think they haven't beaten the Roosters in their past

(05:23):
eight meetings, and they haven't beaten them at home since
twenty seventeen or some awful stats. So those stats would
say that you know it's going to be tricky. And
the Rooster's beat Penrith last week with an impressive win,
so they'll be riding high off that too.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah. Interesting, Aby, thank you. Now let's go to the
Western Springs. What do we think should happen with it next?
Jim Ah, that's.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Look, where do we begin here? Ryan? I mean, of
the three that seemed to me and put forward in
the Herald, I do quite like the Mowbray Ali Williams one,
which is a sporting venue. But mate, I went to
Western Springs to watch the Police in nineteen eighty four
and it's a fantastic music venue, so I also like

(06:05):
the one that suggests it should be a music venue.
What I do know is that we have some dogs
breakfast stadiums in Auckland, and somehow someone needs to sort
it out. So there is a stadium of about twenty
four to twenty five thousand for sport. There's a great
venue for concerts that can take a Taylor Swift type

(06:27):
crowd because apparently we missed out on Tata because the
stadium is too small and the end a stadium that
also accommodates big test matches in fifty fifty sixty thousand people.
Greater minds and mind can work that out. But somewhere
on this we've got three average stadiums in eden Park,
Mount Smart and North Harbor, and then we've got Western Springs. Surely, surely, Ryan,

(06:49):
someone can say this is what we're going to do,
this is the plan, and this is how we're going
to have two amazing venues in Auckland, because we don't
at the moment.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yeah, Yeah, I think you've hit the nail on the head.
That has to be a decision that it's strategic decision
that's not just a one off about Western Springs and
what do we do? You know, it has to be
it has to be more what is the strategy and
how does this fit into it?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Abe? How did it work for the city? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well I.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Did a story years ago though, when they were looking
at building the stadium in christ Church, and these academics
had looked at it and been like, the big stadiums
sound great as an idea and it woos everyone and
you get Taylor Swift, But in practicality, for three hundred
and fifty days of the year, they're a massive empty
white elephant. And I actually think what I liked about

(07:38):
the sort of Mowbray's proposal was that it's a small
stadium with other things there. And I actually think a
twelve and a half thousand seat one it's full more
often than it's not. It doesn't take up as much room,
and you get more versatile use from the space day
in and day out, you know, week and week out.
And so I actually I see Jim's point about when

(08:00):
at a big stadium we need to solve those problems.
I don't think Western Springs is a solution. I think
Western Springs and the facility is maybe look at it
from a community point of view and the sport and
what it can provide. And the bigger issue of a
big stadium is we probably have to look at what
we already have and making them better.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, it's interesting that and then just fly to Sydney
for tato. I guess we need to keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
That's the other options that we're depriving ourselves of, these
big acts that could come to New Zealand because we
don't have a proper venue for them, and that to me,
you know, we think small all the time. You know,
why not think big in terms of one of the
venues and then exactly what Abe said, twelve fifteen thousand
seat place for the other ones and have the best

(08:45):
of both worlds.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, I guess against the problem bigger vision. Do we
have enough people? Because you know, when Taylor Swift comes
to town, just to keep using her, but she's massive
right when she comes down, she wants to do four
or five gigs in the same venue. Do we have
that number of people who you know to actually?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Do you really think she wouldn't sell out at a
sixty thousand seat stadium four nights in a row. I mean,
there's a lot of teenage girls around, mate, they would
all be there for every single night of that she's
putting it on. They've turned up four nights in a row.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
But the rest of the time, you know, you put
a super rugby team there and they get five thousand
and a sixty thousand seat stadium that's come Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
True, the twelve thousand seat stadiums there, you know, that's
where you.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Will How many stadiums are we going to have in Gymstown.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
We've got's money, you two, We've got three average ones.
At the moment, I'd have two. One is a smaller,
be spoky type of one, and one is a big
one that allows for all of the the big, the
big gigs that you want, whether it be a sporting
gig or a concert gig, those sorts of things. We
need to have two really decent options. And then we

(09:58):
also need to say to the sports worry, but you
need to play Auckland football there, Blues there, Warriors there,
there's no other place to go. You've all got to
go to the stadium. Well, you know, yeah, and maximize
the usage of it. At the moment, we have three
average stadiums and we don't really get the best of
anything out of all of them.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Hey you just, Jim, do you reckon the sorry I was.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Do you think the all Lax would sell out a
sixty thousand seats stadium?

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Not at the moment.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
AB. So we're building for Taylor and Taylor Alt.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
But look six sixty you've got fifty thousand people to
Western Springs. Why you know, it doesn't always have to
just be Taylor Swift, does it?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
No, it doesn't, it doesn't. But that wasn't post COVID
wasn't that I think anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Anyway, it was a good night. I went there for
that too.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
That was a good night, always a good night at
six sixty. Hey, very quickly before we go, I just
want to get your quick take on Razor and this
whole story this week about him changing his mind on
on the All Blacks eligibility thing. And then you have
the the players you command and say, oh no, they
were sort of on the same page the whole time.
They just didn't really realize it. I mean, what, Jim,
what happened?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
The machine said to Taylor to raiser, not Taylor to
raise a You need to conform. Look, the simple thing
is the best thing that happens in New Zealand is
that you have to be in New Zealand to play
for the All Blacks. If that changes, this country will
empty of decent players. They'll all go to Japan, they'll
all go to France, and all go somewhere else and
earn lots more money, and we will be looking at

(11:31):
a super rugby competition that is not super. So New
Zealand rugby needs to hold on for as long as
possible to the fact that you have to be in
New Zealand to play for the All Blacks because as
soon as they change that, honestly, this country will empty.
All the good players will earn lots of money going
elsewhere and just play for the All Blacks out of

(11:54):
Toyota or out of Toulon or out of Leicester. It's
as simple as that. Ryan, You change that law and
everyone will disappear because there's so much more money. Over says,
the only thing keeping rugby players in his yellow at
the elite level is the lure of the All Blacks jersey.
If that changes, goodbye to all of our decent players.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
All right, guys, we have to leave it there. I'm afraid. Abby,
thank you very much for coming on, and Jim appreciate
you both. Actually, just before we go, Lizzie has said
stuff Taylor Swift. She's a billionaire, why should she get
concerts in Auckland, Abby Wilson Jim Kay's Sports Huddle Friday Night.

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