September 5, 2025 • 10 mins
Tonight on the Huddle: Rugby commentator Paul Ellison and sports reader Andrew Alderson join Heather duPlessis-Allan to discuss the latest sports news.
Can the All Blacks defend their unbeaten streak at Eden Park this weekend? Is it all over for the Warriors? and will Liam Lawson keep his spot in F1 next year?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand, South of East
International Realty, the global leader in luxury real estate.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The old Black top right in the City of Loves,
the Old Foes South Africa. When the Rugby World Cup
he rises it over the touchline and the frank off
from ten points down, come back and based the York
Blacks Betty one twenty seven and I'll pick it out
(00:38):
and for the first time and Shity Friday, the Old Blacks.
Two sports right turn their old phones.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Right on the sports tuddle with us this evening. We've
got Paul Ellison, News Talk ZIB rugby commentator Andrew Ordison
News Talk zb sports reader.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Allow you two.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Right, who wants to go? Who wants to go first?
And agree with me that the All Blacks are winning? Nobody?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's everything?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I'm breathing deeply. I'm breathing deeply here because I've been
in Argentina and watched the All Blacks where they were
out powered, outpaced. Didn't have the precision or the passion
that the Argentinians did, but they had a couple of
weeks to think about it. And I do believe despite
what Kevin said that the Ardisa Va factor will be
a motivating one for the All Blacks and it didn't
(01:32):
work for Cody Taylor and Bonos Airis, but I think
it might at Eden Park. This one here is an
absolute mouth ordering prospect. It's on a knife edge. I
think the South Africans come and probably his favorites in
this match, and everyone's minds apart from the tab who've
got the All Blacks installed as pretty warm favorites. But
(01:52):
I don't know. It's the All Black back line just
needs to function and it hasn't this year. We've talked
with Razor and he's talked about the entertaining, ranging, high
speed match that the All Blacks want to play, but
they haven't really executed that. Let's hope they can do
it tomorrow night. But I really think it'll go right
down to the wire.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Alders, I'm of a similar thought, Pat, Really, I think
it could go down to the wire. I mean, I'm
fascinated by the psychology of it. Just hearing rossi erasthmus
leathering on the praise this week about the similarities between
the sides, etc. And yeah, praising the All Blacks to
the nth degree may be weary. I was impressed with
hearing ethan de Group today speaking about saying of the
(02:31):
All Blacks describing some of the what they've been preparing
with the eight versus ten and scrum packs. There's a
lot of history on the line here. I mean if
you think back to nineteen eighty four. But also as
Kevin part was referring to their nineteen thirty seven for
South Africa, I'm really concerned about the All Blacks discipline
that we've seen in recent times and yellow cards, et cetera.
But Eden Park it's quite the fortress. We've heard that
(02:53):
phrase use a lot this week. So yeah, I think
I haven't looked forward to a Test as much as
probably the World Cup final.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah too right now, Paul Rick and Kevin's right that
actually there it's hard to watch a game with us
because we have a lot of, as he says, arrogant
devils in the crowd.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I don't know about arrogant devils. You always get passionate
fans wherever you go. I've seen that in Argentina, I
saw it in South Africa live last year. You do
get the passionate supporters. I think crowd does get behind
the local team. I don't think they're any worse than
anywhere else in the world though, to.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Be fair, But the one thing that the All.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Blacks have to do in this match, despite what the
crowd's going to do, is they have to be accurate
in the air, and they haven't been this year. They
kick too deep, they take the pressure off the opposition
by doing so, and they haven't been accurate enough in
a whole range of aspects of their game. And that's
what they need to tighten up tomorrow if they are
going to be in with a chance. Because the spring
box we know, the big, the powerful, we talk about
(03:45):
the bomb squad, but the bench that the All Blacks
have tomorrow, it looks pretty impressive, particularly in the forwards.
It's the back so worried me, not so much to forge.
I think that'll be a very even contest, interesting order.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I might be getting a little bit ahead of my skis.
But if we do lose, how much trouble is Raisin.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I think you've got to stick with Raises through to
the next World Cup. I mean others have been, you know,
stuck with it in that Periody and Foster, Steve Hanson
going Henry Henry given a second shot after losing a
World Cup. I think Robinson's got to be persevered with
otherwise it's too much of a knee jek reaction. It's
more than just Robertson. Yes, he's the architect behind the plan,
but it's the players out there doing and it's the
(04:24):
coaching staff as well, and they've all got to copy it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Here's a theory for you. Here's a theory for you here.
But because I think if you look back to be
in Foster's time, when he got under real pressure, he
changed to the assistance or is assistant, Scott changed, whether
he did it or whether it was from powers above him.
And then you saw Joe Smith come in, you saw
Jason Ryan come in. I just wonder whether it's Scott
Hansen is under a bit of pressure there and and
(04:48):
and also Jason Holland in that back combination of the coaches,
because that's the area that the All Blacks haven't performed
well in this year, and I think they might come
under more pressure than what Razor will if they lose.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, who do you call in because Joe Schmit's overseas.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, Well, I'm I don't know what the answer is,
but it might not be an immediate one. But they're
going to have to fix some of the problems pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think interesting the Friday sports tuddle with New Zealand
Southeby's International Realty. You find you're one of a kind.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Right, you're back with the sports Cello got Andrew Alderson
and Paul Allison Paul the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Is it all over? Or is there still the tiniest,
tiniest chance if, as Piney says, we can avoid the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I guess we'll have to wait
and see what happens tonight and over the course of
the weekend. They need a win to get some momentum
going into the playoffs. They're going to end up in
the fifth or sixth, and then it just depends on
who they end up playing after that, because there's a
whole lot of combinations and permutations around that. It could
be the Panthers, it could be the Roosters, it could
even be the Dolphins depending on where they end up.
(05:53):
But a win tonight will certainly boost their confidence after
that lost last week. They've only made one change, but
when it comes finals time, as we know in sport,
anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I mean orders maybe after the blinder that Rhys
Walsh played last night, what we all need to do
is drink out of the toilet bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, yeah, it depends our thirsty, isn't it. I suppose
Jesse that's a risk.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Have you thought about what a risk that boy took
believing that the plumber hadn't hadn't done a peddle in
it already?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Well, maybe he's seeing that there's electrolytes and there that
none of us know about. He's saying about muscle recovery.
I mean the fact he's he's still living on game
day though, to be fair to him, Yeah, And I
mean I'm deciated by how Michael maguire. I thought mcgui
had pretty well, to be honest, because it's a bit
of a challenge. He's got to really exercise his man
management skills there, and because Walsh is a fairly loose unit.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Really, isn't he? Though? Do you know what we need
more of that? Paul Listen. It's a kind of controversial take,
but I reckon we need more of this in rugby
of these guys who just do a bit of wacky
things that make us laugh and want to watch the game.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, toilet human at its best, doesn't it? Really? Yeah?
I mean it's one of those things that's called the
media attention. It's probably a bit away from sport, but
I know that certain countries in the world, I wouldn't
be going anywhere there's some of the toilet water soon.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No too right, Okay, now, Paul, what's going on with
Liam Lawson? What are you reading into this?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I think it's too early to tell. I mean you're
going into this weekends at Monza and it's only what
race sixteen out of twenty four? Long way to go.
I think he'll still be back with either the racing
balls or red Ball next year. I don't think you've
got a Red Bull seat. But Isaac Hadger, who's been
the French twenty year old who's been an outstanding form.
(07:37):
I just feel Liam Lawson hasn't had any luck this year.
I mean he just seems to just get the wrong
rubber the green. We saw it last weekend as well
in the Netherlands, and he just needs a bit of
luck on his side. I think he'll still be there.
I mean he's sitting fifteenth in the driver's championships and
hadjar sitting tenth overall. But he can get a bit
of confidence and a bit of momentum and a bit
(07:58):
of good luck. You know, a long way to go
in this Formula one season.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You know, for his age, orders, he's actually remarkably I
feel like mature about what's happening, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Absolutely? And I think I don't want to get too
cool by Arvis. But just to even get a second
season in Formula one at all, and I think he'll
stay with racing bulls, that's a fine achievement in itself.
I mean, that's just stability. I also think even to
get named as the Statin's teammate, there's an element of
poison chalice about that in terms of who gets the
lion's share of resources. But as Paul says, I mean,
had you he's a mercurial instinctive. He's a fine driver,
(08:31):
a real talent, and you know, just I think I
think Wilson has done pretty well.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To be honest, he.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Started to get at least he started to get some
points together, a bit of evidence to show what a
talent he is as well.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yes, listen, orders, can I just ask you are you
surprised that the Black Sticks have beaten the Aussies and
the Oceania Cup.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, I was quite surprised that, you know, Australia ranks
five in the middle of the moment, Hew Zealand tenth.
But I watched some of that game this morning. I
thought they were quite compelling. I mean, Grace a Hanlon
and goal particularly Women of Match on their occasion. But
also it was a sharp chance that Olivia Shannon took
to school that goal in the close quarter stuff. And yeah,
good on them. It's a great putting themselves now in
(09:10):
contention with a couple of games to go to maybe
go on to the World Cup next year.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, that's where we can transfer our emotions, Paul, isn't
it if we feel disappointed by the Warriors and the
All Blacks, you start, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Don't be such a doubting Thomas just yet. I mean
the All Blacks. When the Warriors could win, the sun
will come up Sunday morning. Yeah, the women are doing well.
The men they are always going to struggle. They've never
won the Ocean only a Cup in the whole twelve
series that have been played before for the men. The
woman have won four out of the eighth and so
it was a bit of a surprise to see New
Zealand win. But still two more games left in that series,
so we'll see how they get on. Hopefully the Woman
(09:43):
can do it. Hopefully the Warriors can do it. Go
the all Blacks. I'm pracking them by three, Heather.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Are you all?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I like that?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Orders?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Well, I'll take them by two I think something twenty
one nineteen.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You guys, stop all of your optimism and your positivity
and your confidence.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Thanks for much, Paul Allison Andrew Ordison our sports hata
this evening.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand, South of East
International Realty, the global leader in luxury real estate.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The old Black top right in the City of Loves,
the Old Foes South Africa. When the Rugby World Cup
he rises it over the touchline and the frank off
from ten points down, come back and based the York
Blacks Betty one twenty seven and I'll pick it out
(00:38):
and for the first time and Shity Friday, the Old Blacks.
Two sports right turn their old phones.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Right on the sports tuddle with us this evening. We've
got Paul Ellison, News Talk ZIB rugby commentator Andrew Ordison
News Talk zb sports reader.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Allow you two.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Right, who wants to go? Who wants to go first?
And agree with me that the All Blacks are winning? Nobody?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's everything?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I'm breathing deeply. I'm breathing deeply here because I've been
in Argentina and watched the All Blacks where they were
out powered, outpaced. Didn't have the precision or the passion
that the Argentinians did, but they had a couple of
weeks to think about it. And I do believe despite
what Kevin said that the Ardisa Va factor will be
a motivating one for the All Blacks and it didn't
(01:32):
work for Cody Taylor and Bonos Airis, but I think
it might at Eden Park. This one here is an
absolute mouth ordering prospect. It's on a knife edge. I
think the South Africans come and probably his favorites in
this match, and everyone's minds apart from the tab who've
got the All Blacks installed as pretty warm favorites. But
(01:52):
I don't know. It's the All Black back line just
needs to function and it hasn't this year. We've talked
with Razor and he's talked about the entertaining, ranging, high
speed match that the All Blacks want to play, but
they haven't really executed that. Let's hope they can do
it tomorrow night. But I really think it'll go right
down to the wire.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Alders, I'm of a similar thought, Pat, Really, I think
it could go down to the wire. I mean, I'm
fascinated by the psychology of it. Just hearing rossi erasthmus
leathering on the praise this week about the similarities between
the sides, etc. And yeah, praising the All Blacks to
the nth degree may be weary. I was impressed with
hearing ethan de Group today speaking about saying of the
(02:31):
All Blacks describing some of the what they've been preparing
with the eight versus ten and scrum packs. There's a
lot of history on the line here. I mean if
you think back to nineteen eighty four. But also as
Kevin part was referring to their nineteen thirty seven for
South Africa, I'm really concerned about the All Blacks discipline
that we've seen in recent times and yellow cards, et cetera.
But Eden Park it's quite the fortress. We've heard that
(02:53):
phrase use a lot this week. So yeah, I think
I haven't looked forward to a Test as much as
probably the World Cup final.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah too right now, Paul Rick and Kevin's right that
actually there it's hard to watch a game with us
because we have a lot of, as he says, arrogant
devils in the crowd.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I don't know about arrogant devils. You always get passionate
fans wherever you go. I've seen that in Argentina, I
saw it in South Africa live last year. You do
get the passionate supporters. I think crowd does get behind
the local team. I don't think they're any worse than
anywhere else in the world though, to.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Be fair, But the one thing that the All.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Blacks have to do in this match, despite what the
crowd's going to do, is they have to be accurate
in the air, and they haven't been this year. They
kick too deep, they take the pressure off the opposition
by doing so, and they haven't been accurate enough in
a whole range of aspects of their game. And that's
what they need to tighten up tomorrow if they are
going to be in with a chance. Because the spring
box we know, the big, the powerful, we talk about
(03:45):
the bomb squad, but the bench that the All Blacks
have tomorrow, it looks pretty impressive, particularly in the forwards.
It's the back so worried me, not so much to forge.
I think that'll be a very even contest, interesting order.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I might be getting a little bit ahead of my skis.
But if we do lose, how much trouble is Raisin.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I think you've got to stick with Raises through to
the next World Cup. I mean others have been, you know,
stuck with it in that Periody and Foster, Steve Hanson
going Henry Henry given a second shot after losing a
World Cup. I think Robinson's got to be persevered with
otherwise it's too much of a knee jek reaction. It's
more than just Robertson. Yes, he's the architect behind the plan,
but it's the players out there doing and it's the
(04:24):
coaching staff as well, and they've all got to copy it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Here's a theory for you. Here's a theory for you here.
But because I think if you look back to be
in Foster's time, when he got under real pressure, he
changed to the assistance or is assistant, Scott changed, whether
he did it or whether it was from powers above him.
And then you saw Joe Smith come in, you saw
Jason Ryan come in. I just wonder whether it's Scott
Hansen is under a bit of pressure there and and
(04:48):
and also Jason Holland in that back combination of the coaches,
because that's the area that the All Blacks haven't performed
well in this year, and I think they might come
under more pressure than what Razor will if they lose.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, who do you call in because Joe Schmit's overseas.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah, Well, I'm I don't know what the answer is,
but it might not be an immediate one. But they're
going to have to fix some of the problems pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I think interesting the Friday sports tuddle with New Zealand
Southeby's International Realty. You find you're one of a kind.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Right, you're back with the sports Cello got Andrew Alderson
and Paul Allison Paul the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Is it all over? Or is there still the tiniest,
tiniest chance if, as Piney says, we can avoid the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I guess we'll have to wait
and see what happens tonight and over the course of
the weekend. They need a win to get some momentum
going into the playoffs. They're going to end up in
the fifth or sixth, and then it just depends on
who they end up playing after that, because there's a
whole lot of combinations and permutations around that. It could
be the Panthers, it could be the Roosters, it could
even be the Dolphins depending on where they end up.
(05:53):
But a win tonight will certainly boost their confidence after
that lost last week. They've only made one change, but
when it comes finals time, as we know in sport,
anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, I mean orders maybe after the blinder that Rhys
Walsh played last night, what we all need to do
is drink out of the toilet bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Well, yeah, it depends our thirsty, isn't it. I suppose
Jesse that's a risk.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Have you thought about what a risk that boy took
believing that the plumber hadn't hadn't done a peddle in
it already?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Well, maybe he's seeing that there's electrolytes and there that
none of us know about. He's saying about muscle recovery.
I mean the fact he's he's still living on game
day though, to be fair to him, Yeah, And I
mean I'm deciated by how Michael maguire. I thought mcgui
had pretty well, to be honest, because it's a bit
of a challenge. He's got to really exercise his man
management skills there, and because Walsh is a fairly loose unit.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Really, isn't he? Though? Do you know what we need
more of that? Paul Listen. It's a kind of controversial take,
but I reckon we need more of this in rugby
of these guys who just do a bit of wacky
things that make us laugh and want to watch the game.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, toilet human at its best, doesn't it? Really? Yeah?
I mean it's one of those things that's called the
media attention. It's probably a bit away from sport, but
I know that certain countries in the world, I wouldn't
be going anywhere there's some of the toilet water soon.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
No too right, Okay, now, Paul, what's going on with
Liam Lawson? What are you reading into this?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I think it's too early to tell. I mean you're
going into this weekends at Monza and it's only what
race sixteen out of twenty four? Long way to go.
I think he'll still be back with either the racing
balls or red Ball next year. I don't think you've
got a Red Bull seat. But Isaac Hadger, who's been
the French twenty year old who's been an outstanding form.
(07:37):
I just feel Liam Lawson hasn't had any luck this year.
I mean he just seems to just get the wrong
rubber the green. We saw it last weekend as well
in the Netherlands, and he just needs a bit of
luck on his side. I think he'll still be there.
I mean he's sitting fifteenth in the driver's championships and
hadjar sitting tenth overall. But he can get a bit
of confidence and a bit of momentum and a bit
(07:58):
of good luck. You know, a long way to go
in this Formula one season.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
You know, for his age, orders, he's actually remarkably I
feel like mature about what's happening, don't you think?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Absolutely? And I think I don't want to get too
cool by Arvis. But just to even get a second
season in Formula one at all, and I think he'll
stay with racing bulls, that's a fine achievement in itself.
I mean, that's just stability. I also think even to
get named as the Statin's teammate, there's an element of
poison chalice about that in terms of who gets the
lion's share of resources. But as Paul says, I mean,
had you he's a mercurial instinctive. He's a fine driver,
(08:31):
a real talent, and you know, just I think I
think Wilson has done pretty well.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
To be honest, he.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Started to get at least he started to get some
points together, a bit of evidence to show what a
talent he is as well.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yes, listen, orders, can I just ask you are you
surprised that the Black Sticks have beaten the Aussies and
the Oceania Cup.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, I was quite surprised that, you know, Australia ranks
five in the middle of the moment, Hew Zealand tenth.
But I watched some of that game this morning. I
thought they were quite compelling. I mean, Grace a Hanlon
and goal particularly Women of Match on their occasion. But
also it was a sharp chance that Olivia Shannon took
to school that goal in the close quarter stuff. And yeah,
good on them. It's a great putting themselves now in
(09:10):
contention with a couple of games to go to maybe
go on to the World Cup next year.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, that's where we can transfer our emotions, Paul, isn't
it if we feel disappointed by the Warriors and the
All Blacks, you start, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Don't be such a doubting Thomas just yet. I mean
the All Blacks. When the Warriors could win, the sun
will come up Sunday morning. Yeah, the women are doing well.
The men they are always going to struggle. They've never
won the Ocean only a Cup in the whole twelve
series that have been played before for the men. The
woman have won four out of the eighth and so
it was a bit of a surprise to see New
Zealand win. But still two more games left in that series,
so we'll see how they get on. Hopefully the Woman
(09:43):
can do it. Hopefully the Warriors can do it. Go
the all Blacks. I'm pracking them by three, Heather.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Are you all?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I like that?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
What about you?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Orders?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Well, I'll take them by two I think something twenty
one nineteen.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You guys, stop all of your optimism and your positivity
and your confidence.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Thanks for much, Paul Allison Andrew Ordison our sports hata
this evening.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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