September 12, 2025 • 10 mins
Tonight on the Huddle: Rugby commentator Jeff McTainsh and sports journalist Nikki Styris join Heather duPlessis-Allan to discuss the latest sports news.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Friday sports Tuddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.
You find You're one of a kind.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Another shower, sweet and cross leading Park and the old
Black sweep over the ball.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
They just need to get it out, They just need
to get it in.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
A touch back for Preston Turnerckenzie into the stance and
the all blackstaffend the Fortress twenty four seventeen.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You don't won the World Cup, get back on the
top of the world.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So much of a duke to knowing.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right on the sports title that's this evening we have
Jeff mctange's rugby commentator, Nicky Styra sports journalist. Hello you
twokkay Jeffy calling the game this week.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm not no, I've got quite a weekend. So I've
got the Black Fans South Africa quarterfinal on that Saturday
night from Sky.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well that's what you thought going into last weekend. How
long did is it true that they gave you forty
five minute warning?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh it was a bit more than that, but it
wasn't a lot of a lot of notice. So yeah,
certainly the teacher, he was a bit crop. He had
a virus. I think of some description but.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
About that earlier in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I'm not sure you'd have to ask.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
You know what, I know the answer to that, Jeff.
It's because he's a man. He was like, I'll be fine,
I'll be fine. And then at about six o'clock they
were like, obviously not called Jeff. That's what happened though.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, maybe I'm not too sure what the boss were thinking,
but I certainly answered the call and was was a
pleasure to be here and do the job.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, good on you, Nikki. Now what do you reckon?
Have we got two from two for the all blacks here?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I thought you were going to start with the black
fans after that text message you got here.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I know no masses, and I'm teasing muzz. I'm keeping
him because I know Mars is going to listening until
we talk about the black foods be the last thing.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
All right, Well, let's let's tease them in good good
news style. Actually, no, I'm going to go against the
all Blacks. I actually think they potentially might just let
their guard down this week. I think there was so
much writing on that game last week. You know that
the fortress that the all Black legacy they had to
stand up. They did stand up, and I also think
(02:24):
that South Africa won't make as many errors as they
made last week. So you know, they showed how strong
they are up front. Their scrums, you know, pushed us
back that led to one of their tries. We are
going to need big game players like the Ardie save
as the Boat and Barratts to step up again, and
we can't make those eras. It's going to be tight,
no doubt about that. But yeah, I'm thinking a spring
(02:45):
box might sneak on, sneak in on this one.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, I mean, this is the worry, isn't it, Jeff,
that that the All Blacks have played their final ready.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I guess in some ways you could look at it
that way, But I think on the other side of it,
you could also argue that the All Blacks the pressure
valve in in some ways has been released. There was
a lot of anticipation and noise and expectation going into
that test at Eden Parking, and rightly so, and a
lot of scrutiny of Scott Robertson and some of the players.
But I think, as Nikki said, the said Africans had
(03:16):
better of a lot of that game. You know, certainly
at scrum time. You know, they bossed the All Blacks
at times and they were handy around the park. But
I think the fact that the All Blacks managed to
get out of Eden Park with the wind and negotiate
the spring Bocks the way that they did was very,
very impressive. So I think on the other side of
it heading to Wellington. Now with that one in the bag,
(03:36):
you look at the changes that Russia Rasmus has made.
He had two players over the age of well under
the age of thirty and that test that even park
and now it's the other way around, just two over
the age. So's certainly looking at blooding players with a
mindset towards twenty seven Wheeld Cup. So I think with
that in mind and the All Blacks wanting to make
it two from two and show that it wasn't a fluke,
(03:58):
I think they'll be too strong.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Hey listen, tell me quickly, Nikki, what are you going
to do in your house? Are you watching the first
half of the Warriors the Panthers and then you switch over?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
All week? I have said to my friends, what are
you doing for the rugby in the league? What are
you doing for the rugby in the league, and all
of them are are bloody busy, you know, and it's
just like this is not on. So anyway, my husband
is going off to play golf in the afternoon's at
strict instructions. He needs to be back here by six
o'clock so that the pair of us, because it will
be us two, will sit down because we are ultimately
Warriors fans, you know, long suffering thirty one years, and
(04:29):
we would love to see them go through. And if
someone said to me, you've got a choice out of
one or the two winning, I would take I would
definitely take the Warriors over the All Blacks. I know,
I know what.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Is going to make you. So what are you doing?
Are you doing one and one for the whole Warriors
game and then the second half of the orre you
watching the All Black n.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Look, I'm going to be honest, you know, I'm going
to We're going to watch that hour and see how
it plays out closed and it's tight and it's fun. Yeah, absolutely,
we're into the hall. If we're getting pants by the Panthers,
then potentially, yes, we will turn it over. I would
say that's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's not a bad idea. It's a good plan. I
was thinking the same thing. Worries go on. If it's
an absolute panting by the time the all Bleck's come
to play, then we switch over to the test match.
But otherwise, you know, just maybe just on the phone
and just sort of see how things go so there
we can multitask. Not very good at that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Double streaming. All right, guys, we'll take a little break.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South Ofby's International Reality,
the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right, you're back of the Sports hitle Niki starrs Jeff mctage. Now, Nikki,
what do you make of the situation with Dame Knowles.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, it's a tricky one to comment on because we
don't have all the details. But from what I'm hearing,
I think there definitely is a communication breakdown and I
don't know the problem is that do they need a
reality check? These young players. I'm pretty old school, so
my view is pretty much the same as Laura Langman
and a few you know, even wanting of this world
(06:02):
elite sport is just that it's elite. To get there,
to stay there, you need to be tough. You need
to be thick skinned, you need to be resilient, and
you don't need to crumble at the first signs of
personal affront. And I think that that's what we're seeing now.
You could argue there has definitely been sort of a
cultural shift. And I guess the way you can see this, Heather,
(06:22):
is if you look at all the player coach conflicts
that have occurred recently. They have been in New Zealand
women's team cycling, hockey, swimming, because they're emotional creatures and
we and we respond to leadership differently to men. You've
only got to ask an ex player male who goes
(06:44):
into coaching a female top level team and they will
tell you or they're quite different. You know, they don't
respond in the same way, and you can't upset them.
You've got to set them aside and you've got to
have a nice little chat so you know there needs
to to I guess the solution is quite simple. You've
just got to have more training, more conflict management education
for coaches, more training at communications. That's my take on it.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Now, Jeff, I know you're not going to want to say,
because you're a bloke, you're not going to be You
don't want to get involved in this, Lady chat, I
know that, but can you at least give me you
take them Whether it's a generational problem here, you know,
like are these players just just that they're off the
generation that doesn't like a tough.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Go well, I think firstly you have to look at
Dame Nolean's track record and the fact that is twenty
eighteen the Silver Ferns don't meddle at the Commonwealth Games.
Ten months later they won a World Cup. You know,
so she has the goods as a coach. Now, Catherine
Tvat has made a good point. You know, maybe the
landscape has changed in the last five years. I'm sure
(07:40):
it has. But you know, is that to sacrifice success?
You know, if you're not born New Zealand. I think,
as as Nicky says, it's like, you know, you have
to start asking those questions. Is it having a good
coach that's going to get you these results it has
a proven track record or has the power swung to
much the way of the players, And that's a question
(08:03):
the Neat for New Zealand needs to be asking themselves,
you know, who do we go with here? Because you know,
a little bit of hard work is going to get
you somewhere if you work hard and at the first,
as you say, Nikki, at the first sign of something
getting a little bit tough, and again without knowing the
ins and outs and the and the and the end
of details of what's happened here, I think that is
the question. There's no no question. I think it's just
(08:23):
incredibly sad because she's a wonderful coach, a wonderful person,
and Laura Langman's message on social media was just so
moving because look what she did with those players that team.
You know, they had to work hard, they didn't always
like her training methods, but it led to a World
Cup and ultimately, as a professional sports person, you want
to succeed at the highest level and you can't beat that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, very fair point. Okay, let's do it for us now.
Mars has got a fair point, hasn't he, Niki? That
we are how have we allowed them to get into
the quarterfinals and we're hardly even talking about it?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Oh, look, hither it's Look, it's a really simple answer.
It hasn't been covered much because aid has been very
the urgency. First of all, the time zone is dreadful.
It's in the middle of the night. Secondly, it's sorry
about that, Jeff. Secondly, at this stage, you know through
the group stages are a weak part, so it loses
that urgency and the results have been so one sided
(09:17):
that you know, it's like, you know, Black Funds do
it again. So look, the difference is that now, as
Jeff will tell you, we are now down at the
business end. So you know, New Zealand place South Africa.
You know South Africa made it quarter finals. It won't
be necessarily the one sided result that we've seen today.
So the urgency will increase and I do hope that
we get more coverage, more talk, more chat around it.
(09:40):
To me, England will be England New Zealand. We're going
to see that that's going to be the final, and
yet there'll be plenty of attention around that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Jeff, I don't have long forgive me. You'll take on it.
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I think the Black Funds one come to me and
South Efica, But I think in Nicky say this is right.
It's the factor that's going to come out of the
semi final and final for them. The cruise through Paul
play notices thak to South Africa. They had a good
one over Italy, but a second game we've played them
in twenty ten we were heavy favorites on that occasion,
rightly so too. I think they cruised through. But this
(10:11):
whole tournament has been so good, not just for the
women's game, but the game of rugby in general, and
I think we can learn a lot from the way
that Black Ferns have promoted the game, the way they
do things on social media. I think that the men
side of it can learn from that too. But ultimately,
thirty thousand tickets I think the last time of the
World Cup was in England. This time pre sold three
hundred thousand, and globally the audience has been massive, so
(10:32):
it's a good thing for the game.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Good stuff, brilliant you guys. Enjoy your weekend of sport.
JEF mctang's Niki styris Sports Huddle.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The Friday sports Tuddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.
You find You're one of a kind.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Another shower, sweet and cross leading Park and the old
Black sweep over the ball.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
They just need to get it out, They just need
to get it in.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
A touch back for Preston Turnerckenzie into the stance and
the all blackstaffend the Fortress twenty four seventeen.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
You don't won the World Cup, get back on the
top of the world.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So much of a duke to knowing.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Right on the sports title that's this evening we have
Jeff mctange's rugby commentator, Nicky Styra sports journalist. Hello you
twokkay Jeffy calling the game this week.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm not no, I've got quite a weekend. So I've
got the Black Fans South Africa quarterfinal on that Saturday
night from Sky.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Well that's what you thought going into last weekend. How
long did is it true that they gave you forty
five minute warning?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh it was a bit more than that, but it
wasn't a lot of a lot of notice. So yeah,
certainly the teacher, he was a bit crop. He had
a virus. I think of some description but.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
About that earlier in the day.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I'm not sure you'd have to ask.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
You know what, I know the answer to that, Jeff.
It's because he's a man. He was like, I'll be fine,
I'll be fine. And then at about six o'clock they
were like, obviously not called Jeff. That's what happened though.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, maybe I'm not too sure what the boss were thinking,
but I certainly answered the call and was was a
pleasure to be here and do the job.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, good on you, Nikki. Now what do you reckon?
Have we got two from two for the all blacks here?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
I thought you were going to start with the black
fans after that text message you got here.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I know no masses, and I'm teasing muzz. I'm keeping
him because I know Mars is going to listening until
we talk about the black foods be the last thing.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
All right, Well, let's let's tease them in good good
news style. Actually, no, I'm going to go against the
all Blacks. I actually think they potentially might just let
their guard down this week. I think there was so
much writing on that game last week. You know that
the fortress that the all Black legacy they had to
stand up. They did stand up, and I also think
(02:24):
that South Africa won't make as many errors as they
made last week. So you know, they showed how strong
they are up front. Their scrums, you know, pushed us
back that led to one of their tries. We are
going to need big game players like the Ardie save
as the Boat and Barratts to step up again, and
we can't make those eras. It's going to be tight,
no doubt about that. But yeah, I'm thinking a spring
(02:45):
box might sneak on, sneak in on this one.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, I mean, this is the worry, isn't it, Jeff,
that that the All Blacks have played their final ready.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I guess in some ways you could look at it
that way, But I think on the other side of it,
you could also argue that the All Blacks the pressure
valve in in some ways has been released. There was
a lot of anticipation and noise and expectation going into
that test at Eden Parking, and rightly so, and a
lot of scrutiny of Scott Robertson and some of the players.
But I think, as Nikki said, the said Africans had
(03:16):
better of a lot of that game. You know, certainly
at scrum time. You know, they bossed the All Blacks
at times and they were handy around the park. But
I think the fact that the All Blacks managed to
get out of Eden Park with the wind and negotiate
the spring Bocks the way that they did was very,
very impressive. So I think on the other side of
it heading to Wellington. Now with that one in the bag,
(03:36):
you look at the changes that Russia Rasmus has made.
He had two players over the age of well under
the age of thirty and that test that even park
and now it's the other way around, just two over
the age. So's certainly looking at blooding players with a
mindset towards twenty seven Wheeld Cup. So I think with
that in mind and the All Blacks wanting to make
it two from two and show that it wasn't a fluke,
(03:58):
I think they'll be too strong.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Hey listen, tell me quickly, Nikki, what are you going
to do in your house? Are you watching the first
half of the Warriors the Panthers and then you switch over?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
All week? I have said to my friends, what are
you doing for the rugby in the league? What are
you doing for the rugby in the league, and all
of them are are bloody busy, you know, and it's
just like this is not on. So anyway, my husband
is going off to play golf in the afternoon's at
strict instructions. He needs to be back here by six
o'clock so that the pair of us, because it will
be us two, will sit down because we are ultimately
Warriors fans, you know, long suffering thirty one years, and
(04:29):
we would love to see them go through. And if
someone said to me, you've got a choice out of
one or the two winning, I would take I would
definitely take the Warriors over the All Blacks. I know,
I know what.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Is going to make you. So what are you doing?
Are you doing one and one for the whole Warriors
game and then the second half of the orre you
watching the All Black n.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Look, I'm going to be honest, you know, I'm going
to We're going to watch that hour and see how
it plays out closed and it's tight and it's fun. Yeah, absolutely,
we're into the hall. If we're getting pants by the Panthers,
then potentially, yes, we will turn it over. I would
say that's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's not a bad idea. It's a good plan. I
was thinking the same thing. Worries go on. If it's
an absolute panting by the time the all Bleck's come
to play, then we switch over to the test match.
But otherwise, you know, just maybe just on the phone
and just sort of see how things go so there
we can multitask. Not very good at that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Double streaming. All right, guys, we'll take a little break.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South Ofby's International Reality,
the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right, you're back of the Sports hitle Niki starrs Jeff mctage. Now, Nikki,
what do you make of the situation with Dame Knowles.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, it's a tricky one to comment on because we
don't have all the details. But from what I'm hearing,
I think there definitely is a communication breakdown and I
don't know the problem is that do they need a
reality check? These young players. I'm pretty old school, so
my view is pretty much the same as Laura Langman
and a few you know, even wanting of this world
(06:02):
elite sport is just that it's elite. To get there,
to stay there, you need to be tough. You need
to be thick skinned, you need to be resilient, and
you don't need to crumble at the first signs of
personal affront. And I think that that's what we're seeing now.
You could argue there has definitely been sort of a
cultural shift. And I guess the way you can see this, Heather,
(06:22):
is if you look at all the player coach conflicts
that have occurred recently. They have been in New Zealand
women's team cycling, hockey, swimming, because they're emotional creatures and
we and we respond to leadership differently to men. You've
only got to ask an ex player male who goes
(06:44):
into coaching a female top level team and they will
tell you or they're quite different. You know, they don't
respond in the same way, and you can't upset them.
You've got to set them aside and you've got to
have a nice little chat so you know there needs
to to I guess the solution is quite simple. You've
just got to have more training, more conflict management education
for coaches, more training at communications. That's my take on it.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Now, Jeff, I know you're not going to want to say,
because you're a bloke, you're not going to be You
don't want to get involved in this, Lady chat, I
know that, but can you at least give me you
take them Whether it's a generational problem here, you know,
like are these players just just that they're off the
generation that doesn't like a tough.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Go well, I think firstly you have to look at
Dame Nolean's track record and the fact that is twenty
eighteen the Silver Ferns don't meddle at the Commonwealth Games.
Ten months later they won a World Cup. You know,
so she has the goods as a coach. Now, Catherine
Tvat has made a good point. You know, maybe the
landscape has changed in the last five years. I'm sure
(07:40):
it has. But you know, is that to sacrifice success?
You know, if you're not born New Zealand. I think,
as as Nicky says, it's like, you know, you have
to start asking those questions. Is it having a good
coach that's going to get you these results it has
a proven track record or has the power swung to
much the way of the players, And that's a question
(08:03):
the Neat for New Zealand needs to be asking themselves,
you know, who do we go with here? Because you know,
a little bit of hard work is going to get
you somewhere if you work hard and at the first,
as you say, Nikki, at the first sign of something
getting a little bit tough, and again without knowing the
ins and outs and the and the and the end
of details of what's happened here, I think that is
the question. There's no no question. I think it's just
(08:23):
incredibly sad because she's a wonderful coach, a wonderful person,
and Laura Langman's message on social media was just so
moving because look what she did with those players that team.
You know, they had to work hard, they didn't always
like her training methods, but it led to a World
Cup and ultimately, as a professional sports person, you want
to succeed at the highest level and you can't beat that.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, very fair point. Okay, let's do it for us now.
Mars has got a fair point, hasn't he, Niki? That
we are how have we allowed them to get into
the quarterfinals and we're hardly even talking about it?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Oh, look, hither it's Look, it's a really simple answer.
It hasn't been covered much because aid has been very
the urgency. First of all, the time zone is dreadful.
It's in the middle of the night. Secondly, it's sorry
about that, Jeff. Secondly, at this stage, you know through
the group stages are a weak part, so it loses
that urgency and the results have been so one sided
(09:17):
that you know, it's like, you know, Black Funds do
it again. So look, the difference is that now, as
Jeff will tell you, we are now down at the
business end. So you know, New Zealand place South Africa.
You know South Africa made it quarter finals. It won't
be necessarily the one sided result that we've seen today.
So the urgency will increase and I do hope that
we get more coverage, more talk, more chat around it.
(09:40):
To me, England will be England New Zealand. We're going
to see that that's going to be the final, and
yet there'll be plenty of attention around that.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Jeff, I don't have long forgive me. You'll take on it.
What do you think.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I think the Black Funds one come to me and
South Efica, But I think in Nicky say this is right.
It's the factor that's going to come out of the
semi final and final for them. The cruise through Paul
play notices thak to South Africa. They had a good
one over Italy, but a second game we've played them
in twenty ten we were heavy favorites on that occasion,
rightly so too. I think they cruised through. But this
(10:11):
whole tournament has been so good, not just for the
women's game, but the game of rugby in general, and
I think we can learn a lot from the way
that Black Ferns have promoted the game, the way they
do things on social media. I think that the men
side of it can learn from that too. But ultimately,
thirty thousand tickets I think the last time of the
World Cup was in England. This time pre sold three
hundred thousand, and globally the audience has been massive, so
(10:32):
it's a good thing for the game.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Good stuff, brilliant you guys. Enjoy your weekend of sport.
JEF mctang's Niki styris Sports Huddle.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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