July 15, 2025 • 6 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, former Labour Minister Stuart Nash and Tim Wilson from the Maxim Institute joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
David Seymour's rebuttal letter to the UN has ended in an awkward walkback after Prime Minister Chris Luxon told him off. What do we make of this?
Australia is debating whether or not to put cancer warnings on alcoholic drinks. Do we need to follow their lead?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Unique Homes,
Uniquely for you.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the head of tonight Stuart Nash, former Labor Minister.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Hey Stuart, no, are you made good?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And Tim Wilson's here from the Maxim Institute too. Hey Tim,
good evening.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Good evening. How's it going good?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's it's it's a delicate balancing act, Stewart, isn't it well?
The sort of awkward three way these guys are in
it is not delicate.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I mean I just listened to that Data Sema interview.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I mean what you know he.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Says he's too efficient in replying to his correspondence. You've
got Winston Peters, who is our most experienced diplomat, walking
a real tight rope in international fears and I think
doing a fantastic job. And you get this little David
Seymour cutting right across his path. I think, you know,
I'd love to have been a fire on the wharf
at that meeting. I suspect it wasn't as cordial as
David made it out to be. I think Winston would
(00:53):
have been absolutely furious with this guy. And you've got
no sense of contrition there at all. I mean, I
don't disagree with the content of the letter, I don't
think anyone does, but the fact that he didn't know that,
you know, Winston Peters is the guy who deals with
New Zealand's affairs on the global stage and just just
sends off a letter of his own accord. I mean,
what planet does this go on?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Is?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I don't know, is it that big of a deal?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It just it just goes to Seamore acting on. He's
just a bit of an arrogant little toss in my view, everybody,
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I mean I did like the thing, you know, when
he said I was too efficient. My corresponds a bit
like a job and to deal when someone when you're
asking now tell us your biggest weakness, well, my biggest
weaknesses that I have absolutely no weaknesses at all. I actually,
I've got to say I think that in a sense
everyone wins here politically. David Seymour gets to be the
naughty boy, the role he cherishes. Chris Luxon gets to
(01:47):
be the angry dad, a role he doesn't play possibly
often enough, and the un staggers on in substances as
Penrmal so everyone's happy.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
As Tim Wilson on the Huddle.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
The Huddle with Newsan Southby's International Realty, The Ones for Fun,
Last Results.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
News, Tom ZMB. It is thirteen minutes away from six
to the Huddle Tonight's Stuart Nash and Tim Wilson. Stuart,
I have to say, you've really set the cat amongst
the pigeons. The text machine is going nuts.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Of David Seymour knows no bounds and he is the
Deputy Prime Minister and in my world that still carries
a little bit of weight and you've got to act
with dignity and he just does not act with dignity.
Arrogant seems to be the way forward for David. And
he is a blind spot because he doesn't realize when
he's done something wrong. He just charges right on through.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And he says, student's a knob.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
He's definitely standing for New Zealand first. He's a greaser,
no respect for him anyway. We'll move on, We'll move on.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Hey, don't take it. Don't let the text machine take
up too much space in your head.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Stuart.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It's that's not a good outcome there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Hey, Australia is debating at the moment whether or not
to put quite prominent labels on their alcoholic drinks, cancer
warnings on their alcoholic drinks. Other countries are lowering their
safe drinking guidelines, and ours are actually way above most
other countries that we would compare ourselves to. Tim, Do
(03:15):
you think we need to do anything about that?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I mean I'm actually wondering why we're worried about drinks
because last time I checked, didn't our meth use double
in a year. I mean, we're in the safe guidelines
for meth use. And I say that, you know, in terms,
I'm just saying it sort of in a somewhat I'm
trying to be a bit dry about it, because the
question about safe guidelines for drinking, how applicable is it? Actually?
Like when was the last time you're at the pub
(03:40):
and someone turned to you and said, I've reached number
fourteen for the week, I'm going to go home?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Exactly do you think I mean they put Stuart, they
put in fact, you might have been in when they
did this. Put you know, don't drink while pregnant labels
on wine. I think it was a couple of years ago,
and it doesn't make a difference.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It's a little dar winning. And I mean, if you
want to drink twenty pints at night, you're never going
to You're never going to reach a hundred. But but
you know, I mean, most key Wes enjoy a beer
with their mates without seeing a big cancer warning on it.
I mean, we know tobacco's bad for you, They've got
that all over the place. But you know, I mean,
I don't want to. I don't want to drink a
bottle of wine with my wife. Will go for a
(04:20):
beer with my mates, and all I see is, don't drink. You'
leaned up with cancer. For God's sake, talk about kildren.
Do we drink if you now again.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Stuart, probably cancers the least of your worries. If you're
drinking a bottle of wine with your wife.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I'll just put it.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I'll just.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
No, you're right, you know what I mean, Because they're
quite occasion, because.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
They're quite okay, they're quite ugly. You know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
If you think about the labels they have on cigarettes,
if you could imagine that on an alcoholic drink, that
would that would probably have some impact, I would think,
because it's not.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Exactly the picture of a turna is going to take
the fun out of a chardonnaye like no tomorrow. And
also if you compare us, what are we we're fifteen? Well,
number one, we're sexist because I think it's fifteen for
men and ten for women. The Aussies interesting, they're both
men and women. They're allowed ten a week. The UK
is fourteen, the US is fourteen. So we're sort of
(05:10):
I don't know. Now, we like to think we can
punch above our weight. We're about what the big boys.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, well, we all know that, you know, the drinking
when you reach a certain age, drink too much, it
never ends well. But again, if you want to have
a quiet beer with your mates or a wine with
your your wife, where you want to go out on
a boy's weekend, then you know the last thing you
want to see is these bloody tumors and cancel womings
over everything. I mean, we do. We do know that
that tobacco is bare for you're right, I mean, that's
(05:37):
that's proven beyond doubts. So I don't mind seting that
sort of stuff. I mean, who smokes these days, don't know?
We don't want to smoke. In terms of drinking, I
mean shits. People. People enjoy gen to socialize and catch
up with their mates and have a good time. They
don't want to see that happens. Stuart.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I've just got one question. What's the age when it's
too much? What age is that when you sop when
you cut down about one.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Hundred But well, you know the wine industry, there's a
couple of glasses of red Wine's actually not bad for
your brain. So you know, let's go with that.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You just keep going until it well until it killed you. Basically, Stuart,
Thank you. You've people are still texting about you, Stuart.
Stuart Nash former Labor minister with us and maybe you
soon to be. He's gone on first Minister Tim Wilson
from the Maximum Institute on the Huddle tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to
news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Unique Homes,
Uniquely for you.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the head of tonight Stuart Nash, former Labor Minister.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Hey Stuart, no, are you made good?
Speaker 4 (00:10):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And Tim Wilson's here from the Maxim Institute too. Hey Tim,
good evening.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Good evening. How's it going good?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It's it's it's a delicate balancing act, Stewart, isn't it well?
The sort of awkward three way these guys are in
it is not delicate.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I mean I just listened to that Data Sema interview.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
I mean what you know he.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Says he's too efficient in replying to his correspondence. You've
got Winston Peters, who is our most experienced diplomat, walking
a real tight rope in international fears and I think
doing a fantastic job. And you get this little David
Seymour cutting right across his path. I think, you know,
I'd love to have been a fire on the wharf
at that meeting. I suspect it wasn't as cordial as
David made it out to be. I think Winston would
(00:53):
have been absolutely furious with this guy. And you've got
no sense of contrition there at all. I mean, I
don't disagree with the content of the letter, I don't
think anyone does, but the fact that he didn't know that,
you know, Winston Peters is the guy who deals with
New Zealand's affairs on the global stage and just just
sends off a letter of his own accord. I mean,
what planet does this go on?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Is?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I don't know, is it that big of a deal?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
It just it just goes to Seamore acting on. He's
just a bit of an arrogant little toss in my view, everybody,
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I mean I did like the thing, you know, when
he said I was too efficient. My corresponds a bit
like a job and to deal when someone when you're
asking now tell us your biggest weakness, well, my biggest
weaknesses that I have absolutely no weaknesses at all. I actually,
I've got to say I think that in a sense
everyone wins here politically. David Seymour gets to be the
naughty boy, the role he cherishes. Chris Luxon gets to
(01:47):
be the angry dad, a role he doesn't play possibly
often enough, and the un staggers on in substances as
Penrmal so everyone's happy.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
As Tim Wilson on the Huddle.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
The Huddle with Newsan Southby's International Realty, The Ones for Fun,
Last Results.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
News, Tom ZMB. It is thirteen minutes away from six
to the Huddle Tonight's Stuart Nash and Tim Wilson. Stuart,
I have to say, you've really set the cat amongst
the pigeons. The text machine is going nuts.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Of David Seymour knows no bounds and he is the
Deputy Prime Minister and in my world that still carries
a little bit of weight and you've got to act
with dignity and he just does not act with dignity.
Arrogant seems to be the way forward for David. And
he is a blind spot because he doesn't realize when
he's done something wrong. He just charges right on through.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And he says, student's a knob.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
He's definitely standing for New Zealand first. He's a greaser,
no respect for him anyway. We'll move on, We'll move on.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Hey, don't take it. Don't let the text machine take
up too much space in your head.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Stuart.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It's that's not a good outcome there.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Hey, Australia is debating at the moment whether or not
to put quite prominent labels on their alcoholic drinks, cancer
warnings on their alcoholic drinks. Other countries are lowering their
safe drinking guidelines, and ours are actually way above most
other countries that we would compare ourselves to. Tim, Do
(03:15):
you think we need to do anything about that?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
I mean I'm actually wondering why we're worried about drinks
because last time I checked, didn't our meth use double
in a year. I mean, we're in the safe guidelines
for meth use. And I say that, you know, in terms,
I'm just saying it sort of in a somewhat I'm
trying to be a bit dry about it, because the
question about safe guidelines for drinking, how applicable is it? Actually?
Like when was the last time you're at the pub
(03:40):
and someone turned to you and said, I've reached number
fourteen for the week, I'm going to go home?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Exactly do you think I mean they put Stuart, they
put in fact, you might have been in when they
did this. Put you know, don't drink while pregnant labels
on wine. I think it was a couple of years ago,
and it doesn't make a difference.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It's a little dar winning. And I mean, if you
want to drink twenty pints at night, you're never going
to You're never going to reach a hundred. But but
you know, I mean, most key Wes enjoy a beer
with their mates without seeing a big cancer warning on it.
I mean, we know tobacco's bad for you, They've got
that all over the place. But you know, I mean,
I don't want to. I don't want to drink a
bottle of wine with my wife. Will go for a
(04:20):
beer with my mates, and all I see is, don't drink. You'
leaned up with cancer. For God's sake, talk about kildren.
Do we drink if you now again.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Stuart, probably cancers the least of your worries. If you're
drinking a bottle of wine with your wife.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I'll just put it.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I'll just.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
No, you're right, you know what I mean, Because they're
quite occasion, because.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
They're quite okay, they're quite ugly. You know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
If you think about the labels they have on cigarettes,
if you could imagine that on an alcoholic drink, that
would that would probably have some impact, I would think,
because it's not.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Exactly the picture of a turna is going to take
the fun out of a chardonnaye like no tomorrow. And
also if you compare us, what are we we're fifteen? Well,
number one, we're sexist because I think it's fifteen for
men and ten for women. The Aussies interesting, they're both
men and women. They're allowed ten a week. The UK
is fourteen, the US is fourteen. So we're sort of
(05:10):
I don't know. Now, we like to think we can
punch above our weight. We're about what the big boys.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, well, we all know that, you know, the drinking
when you reach a certain age, drink too much, it
never ends well. But again, if you want to have
a quiet beer with your mates or a wine with
your your wife, where you want to go out on
a boy's weekend, then you know the last thing you
want to see is these bloody tumors and cancel womings
over everything. I mean, we do. We do know that
that tobacco is bare for you're right, I mean, that's
(05:37):
that's proven beyond doubts. So I don't mind seting that
sort of stuff. I mean, who smokes these days, don't know?
We don't want to smoke. In terms of drinking, I
mean shits. People. People enjoy gen to socialize and catch
up with their mates and have a good time. They
don't want to see that happens. Stuart.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
I've just got one question. What's the age when it's
too much? What age is that when you sop when
you cut down about one.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Hundred But well, you know the wine industry, there's a
couple of glasses of red Wine's actually not bad for
your brain. So you know, let's go with that.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
You just keep going until it well until it killed you. Basically, Stuart,
Thank you. You've people are still texting about you, Stuart.
Stuart Nash former Labor minister with us and maybe you
soon to be. He's gone on first Minister Tim Wilson
from the Maximum Institute on the Huddle tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to
news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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