October 10, 2025 • 9 mins
Tonight on the Huddle: Rugby commentator Paul Ellison and NewstalkZB's own D'arcy Waldegrave join Ryan Bridge to discuss the latest sports news.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Friday Sports Tuddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.
You find you're one of a kind.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the sports Tittle this evening, we have Paul Allison
is Z b Rugby commentator Darcy Watergrave ZB sports talk host,
Hello you too.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh I forgot, but Paul, are you there?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yeh, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I went too hard at the gym and I've used
all my energy, so I forgot.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I'm delighted to hear you've been at the gym.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Keeping myself looking good for your Paul. Okay, Paul on
a long? Is this Dame Nole's nonsen is going to
carry on for?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Oh? Look, I don't know how long is a piece
of string. It's got to solve itself shortly, doesn't it.
I think Nipple's got a fear few problems, not just
around the coaching side. They've got issues around the broadcasting rights,
the financial state, and maybe you've got to start questioning
the whole decisiveness of their leadership leadership regime as well.
(00:58):
But you know, for any successful team, they need to
establish a really positive culture. Players need to buy into
that culture, and I know some really high performing international
sports coaches who select on character and attitude first and
skills and ability second. They see you you need to
get good people first and then you create a positive,
stimulating and motivating environment. Now, I think those are the
(01:19):
values that New Zealand Nipple's got to go back to
and actually work right through and maybe start from the
ground up. Now, were no lean sits and that we're
the players and that I don't know, but there's certainly,
from my understanding, there's a division amongst the players, and
I don't think it's going to resolve itself quickly, do you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Think, Paul Okay, So, do you think that they have
the captain and vice captain or deputy captain or whatever
they called. Have they picked one from each camp this
time around, like one pro Noles and one Anti Knoles.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, I don't know if that's a good move if
they have done that, because that throws a further division
amongst the team as well. I mean they traded captains
throughout that series where they had three different captains and
those three different test matches, and whether or not that
was to be able to test out their leadership ability
or the ability to be able to bring players together.
I don't know, but certainly with what Grace and Wiki
(02:06):
did in them the caggle, she got under the soapbox
and certainly showed her side of the story. I know.
I know from a really good source that that was
not embraced some of her comments by all the players
around it.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, so I've heard what have you heard? Darce?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yes, But you don't hear a great deal because they're
very good at keeping a lid on everything. So as
they've often talked about nature, a boring, a vacuum and
what happens, stuff goesn't it. I'm interested in, as Paul mentioned,
the position of management here.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So can I tell you have you heard what we've
been keeping track on on the show?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh no, I haven't prepared home show. I know we
had that actually on Sports Talk a couple of days ago. Okay,
and said, where's it gone?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So the leadership team page is gone and it's still
not up. Still Friday, and it's still I.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Think Wednesday night. One of my callers called through and said, Old,
I'm look at the leadership It's there's nobody there. If
you look. I'm sure Paul will agree that when you
look at a situation like this, whoever's that fault, the
person who's leading the organization ultimately is responsible for the tumult,
and that is the CEO does that's it is.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
If one's showing too many ways.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yes, some people will say no, somebody hates a fan.
It's a bit of eye candy for the mails and
so on and so forth. Think it's kind of quite
an old school thing, but weirded out by it was
so much in Singapore. But when you show the wives
and girlfriends sitting in the pits staring at a screen,
and you don't show the action on the tarmac and
(03:42):
it's only an hour and forty minutes, that's it. You
can cover all that off whenever you want. But when
it's racing, what.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
About a quick shot just to quick like a couple
of seconds.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, no, that's fine. But if someone's passing somebody on
a hair, and if someone's coming into the pit lane
and they've collected someone with a spanner, I mean, go on,
where do you sit on this?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You laugh? I'm wondering what sort of passing you're talking about,
Darcy to be fear, But who's making a pass on? Who?
But look, you start looking at Hollywood stars and sporting
celebrities that are little around Formula One, aren't they The
fact that the TV coverage is focusing on them during
the race itself, I think is a good is not
(04:24):
a good approach to take, And this is what the
fans are saying. This is what is coming through now
as a reaction, saying, hey, we want to watch the race.
We don't mind seeing some of the girlfriends afterwards, or
maybe with their drivers and the partners afterwards, but not
during the race their stuch. Okay here you're probably right
one or two seconds, but you don't need to dwell
on it because the coverage is about the motor racing,
not about the girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
All right, let's take a break and come back to
you guys.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, you're getting applause.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Paul the Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of
East International Real Team, the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right, you're back with the sports Hittle Paul Allison and
Darcy Watergrave. Darce do you think this is on the
Saudi rugby game? I want to call it rugby league,
but it's a rugby union league. Do you see? The
NRL bosses are also now wanting to sanction the players.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
There's a couple of things to take out of this
from the research I've done. One of them is R
three sixty A pretty much invisible. You can't get hold
of them, you can't talk to them, you can't find
out anything about them. They don't exist. Secondly, I've found
out that the money it's not Saudi money. It's not
coming from Saudi American money. I don't know. They ain't
(05:29):
quite I'm trying to ring. I'm emailing work.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
At where I've been told it's American.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
People presume at Saudi because are going to be registered
to Saudi interests. But it's not Saudi money. I don't
know if there's any true than that, but that's what
i'm hearing. So and I'm sure you'll agree Paul, World Rugby,
I'm not so much. The NRL World Rugby are essentially panicking.
That's why they've come out and go, oh, not on
our watch. They've drawn along the sound so I know
(05:54):
you don't know, you don't because they know this. Paul
has the potential to shake up global rugby and it
needs a shake up because the pals in the Northern
Hemisphere steadfastly refuse to acknowledge global rugby or go any further.
They pay lip service, but they do nothing, So they're
primed for the plucking, aren't they, Paul Paul.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, Well, when you look at the fact that they
have put these shutters up now in the eight countries
and the eight strongest countries pretty much in the Worldbeth Australia,
New Zealand said, Afriga Island, England, Scotland, France and Italy.
I said, look, if you go to this three sixty,
you're not able to play for your national side, you're
not eligible for World Cups, you're not eligible for Olympic
Games and the like. So they've put the shutters up there.
(06:36):
Whether this goes anywhere or not, I don't know. Love
golf has Athletics tried it with the Grand Slam track
meets which didn't come off, and then that Super Soccer
League sort of got aboarded, so they've tried this in
the past. I mean, what you need to do, Dars,
You've got the tip here for you. If you wren't
really going to go to the source, go to the
Royal family and get hold of Charlie and just see
what the Christmas invitations like and then Mike Tyndall will
(06:58):
tell you exactly what's going on, because he's the face
of it all too fair enough.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I haven't got him on speed dial. I've tried the
Crown Prince, but he won't take my call.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's inside something controversial for you, Darcy. Now you know
lovely producer Libby over there. She has said that the
reason that we've had three umpires in the Women's Cricket
World Cup causing so much confusion is because they've gone
too hard on trying to be progressive and get only
only female umpires an experience.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You could lean that way if you want. I think
it's important that can can judge. They can umpire under
extreme as they can under extreme pressure. There's been a
couple of or three decisions that have been let's let's
not forget this, that have been dicey and difficult. And
now I can hear Libby in the cans garden.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Have we lost quality in the reffing because they've tried
to be too progressive? Instead, all female umpiring team for
the first time, brackets.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Everybody makes me Paul, do you remember Nigel Long and
that dreaded call that could have been anything.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Oh look, I can remember some shocking calls from umpires
over the years. But now they've got technology and the
fact that you can go upstairs for the calls that
you're not sure about for the next and the court
behind and the LBWs and some of the real critical calls.
You now can put them under review and the technology
will actually do it for you. So the role that
an umpire plays in credit these days are still But
(08:25):
it's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You to stop being such a misogyny.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
No, no, one of them. One of the umpires actually
wasn't asked to review it and went ahead and did
it anyway and made a decision contrary to the rules
of the game. But umpires and refreasings always make mistakes.
It's a given. And I think we've got an overcorrection
situation here, okay, where they're so paranoid they look at
everything all the time. Same with the neat ballers. Over
(08:50):
correction around player power. It's gone too far, after all,
it is like high performance.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Why this is funny to me is because producer Olivia
is the least like she's the least likely person to
be such a misogynist. She's actually very woke, So I
think she's just written that to appeal to me. Yeah, no,
she says, no, yep, never mind, never mind what she
says to me. Guys, have a lovely weekend of sport.
(09:15):
Paul hate By the way, are you calling the NBC?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I am tonight. Yeah, who's been a white kado Otago
will win that one, but narrowly, I think because Whitekato's
been boosted back with some all blacks. Cannibury will knock
over Counties Mannekow the other two tomorrow starting at ten
past four and ten past seven. I can't pick them.
Are really close, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hey, good luck with that. Have a lovely evening and Darcy,
thank you as always for everything. As Paul Allison and
Darcy watergorow our Sports talk O Sports Huddle rather this
evening
Speaker 1 (09:43):
For more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
The Friday Sports Tuddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.
You find you're one of a kind.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the sports Tittle this evening, we have Paul Allison
is Z b Rugby commentator Darcy Watergrave ZB sports talk host,
Hello you too.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh I forgot, but Paul, are you there?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Yeh, I'm here.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I went too hard at the gym and I've used
all my energy, so I forgot.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I'm delighted to hear you've been at the gym.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Keeping myself looking good for your Paul. Okay, Paul on
a long? Is this Dame Nole's nonsen is going to
carry on for?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Oh? Look, I don't know how long is a piece
of string. It's got to solve itself shortly, doesn't it.
I think Nipple's got a fear few problems, not just
around the coaching side. They've got issues around the broadcasting rights,
the financial state, and maybe you've got to start questioning
the whole decisiveness of their leadership leadership regime as well.
(00:58):
But you know, for any successful team, they need to
establish a really positive culture. Players need to buy into
that culture, and I know some really high performing international
sports coaches who select on character and attitude first and
skills and ability second. They see you you need to
get good people first and then you create a positive,
stimulating and motivating environment. Now, I think those are the
(01:19):
values that New Zealand Nipple's got to go back to
and actually work right through and maybe start from the
ground up. Now, were no lean sits and that we're
the players and that I don't know, but there's certainly,
from my understanding, there's a division amongst the players, and
I don't think it's going to resolve itself quickly, do you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Think, Paul Okay, So, do you think that they have
the captain and vice captain or deputy captain or whatever
they called. Have they picked one from each camp this
time around, like one pro Noles and one Anti Knoles.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, I don't know if that's a good move if
they have done that, because that throws a further division
amongst the team as well. I mean they traded captains
throughout that series where they had three different captains and
those three different test matches, and whether or not that
was to be able to test out their leadership ability
or the ability to be able to bring players together.
I don't know, but certainly with what Grace and Wiki
(02:06):
did in them the caggle, she got under the soapbox
and certainly showed her side of the story. I know.
I know from a really good source that that was
not embraced some of her comments by all the players
around it.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, so I've heard what have you heard? Darce?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yes, But you don't hear a great deal because they're
very good at keeping a lid on everything. So as
they've often talked about nature, a boring, a vacuum and
what happens, stuff goesn't it. I'm interested in, as Paul mentioned,
the position of management here.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So can I tell you have you heard what we've
been keeping track on on the show?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh no, I haven't prepared home show. I know we
had that actually on Sports Talk a couple of days ago. Okay,
and said, where's it gone?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So the leadership team page is gone and it's still
not up. Still Friday, and it's still I.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Think Wednesday night. One of my callers called through and said, Old,
I'm look at the leadership It's there's nobody there. If
you look. I'm sure Paul will agree that when you
look at a situation like this, whoever's that fault, the
person who's leading the organization ultimately is responsible for the tumult,
and that is the CEO does that's it is.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
If one's showing too many ways.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yes, some people will say no, somebody hates a fan.
It's a bit of eye candy for the mails and
so on and so forth. Think it's kind of quite
an old school thing, but weirded out by it was
so much in Singapore. But when you show the wives
and girlfriends sitting in the pits staring at a screen,
and you don't show the action on the tarmac and
(03:42):
it's only an hour and forty minutes, that's it. You
can cover all that off whenever you want. But when
it's racing, what.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
About a quick shot just to quick like a couple
of seconds.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, no, that's fine. But if someone's passing somebody on
a hair, and if someone's coming into the pit lane
and they've collected someone with a spanner, I mean, go on,
where do you sit on this?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
You laugh? I'm wondering what sort of passing you're talking about,
Darcy to be fear, But who's making a pass on? Who?
But look, you start looking at Hollywood stars and sporting
celebrities that are little around Formula One, aren't they The
fact that the TV coverage is focusing on them during
the race itself, I think is a good is not
(04:24):
a good approach to take, And this is what the
fans are saying. This is what is coming through now
as a reaction, saying, hey, we want to watch the race.
We don't mind seeing some of the girlfriends afterwards, or
maybe with their drivers and the partners afterwards, but not
during the race their stuch. Okay here you're probably right
one or two seconds, but you don't need to dwell
on it because the coverage is about the motor racing,
not about the girlfriends.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
All right, let's take a break and come back to
you guys.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, you're getting applause.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Paul the Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of
East International Real Team, the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right, you're back with the sports Hittle Paul Allison and
Darcy Watergrave. Darce do you think this is on the
Saudi rugby game? I want to call it rugby league,
but it's a rugby union league. Do you see? The
NRL bosses are also now wanting to sanction the players.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
There's a couple of things to take out of this
from the research I've done. One of them is R
three sixty A pretty much invisible. You can't get hold
of them, you can't talk to them, you can't find
out anything about them. They don't exist. Secondly, I've found
out that the money it's not Saudi money. It's not
coming from Saudi American money. I don't know. They ain't
(05:29):
quite I'm trying to ring. I'm emailing work.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
At where I've been told it's American.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
People presume at Saudi because are going to be registered
to Saudi interests. But it's not Saudi money. I don't
know if there's any true than that, but that's what
i'm hearing. So and I'm sure you'll agree Paul, World Rugby,
I'm not so much. The NRL World Rugby are essentially panicking.
That's why they've come out and go, oh, not on
our watch. They've drawn along the sound so I know
(05:54):
you don't know, you don't because they know this. Paul
has the potential to shake up global rugby and it
needs a shake up because the pals in the Northern
Hemisphere steadfastly refuse to acknowledge global rugby or go any further.
They pay lip service, but they do nothing, So they're
primed for the plucking, aren't they, Paul Paul.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, Well, when you look at the fact that they
have put these shutters up now in the eight countries
and the eight strongest countries pretty much in the Worldbeth Australia,
New Zealand said, Afriga Island, England, Scotland, France and Italy.
I said, look, if you go to this three sixty,
you're not able to play for your national side, you're
not eligible for World Cups, you're not eligible for Olympic
Games and the like. So they've put the shutters up there.
(06:36):
Whether this goes anywhere or not, I don't know. Love
golf has Athletics tried it with the Grand Slam track
meets which didn't come off, and then that Super Soccer
League sort of got aboarded, so they've tried this in
the past. I mean, what you need to do, Dars,
You've got the tip here for you. If you wren't
really going to go to the source, go to the
Royal family and get hold of Charlie and just see
what the Christmas invitations like and then Mike Tyndall will
(06:58):
tell you exactly what's going on, because he's the face
of it all too fair enough.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I haven't got him on speed dial. I've tried the
Crown Prince, but he won't take my call.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That's inside something controversial for you, Darcy. Now you know
lovely producer Libby over there. She has said that the
reason that we've had three umpires in the Women's Cricket
World Cup causing so much confusion is because they've gone
too hard on trying to be progressive and get only
only female umpires an experience.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
You could lean that way if you want. I think
it's important that can can judge. They can umpire under
extreme as they can under extreme pressure. There's been a
couple of or three decisions that have been let's let's
not forget this, that have been dicey and difficult. And
now I can hear Libby in the cans garden.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Have we lost quality in the reffing because they've tried
to be too progressive? Instead, all female umpiring team for
the first time, brackets.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Everybody makes me Paul, do you remember Nigel Long and
that dreaded call that could have been anything.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Oh look, I can remember some shocking calls from umpires
over the years. But now they've got technology and the
fact that you can go upstairs for the calls that
you're not sure about for the next and the court
behind and the LBWs and some of the real critical calls.
You now can put them under review and the technology
will actually do it for you. So the role that
an umpire plays in credit these days are still But
(08:25):
it's a lot of.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
You to stop being such a misogyny.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
No, no, one of them. One of the umpires actually
wasn't asked to review it and went ahead and did
it anyway and made a decision contrary to the rules
of the game. But umpires and refreasings always make mistakes.
It's a given. And I think we've got an overcorrection
situation here, okay, where they're so paranoid they look at
everything all the time. Same with the neat ballers. Over
(08:50):
correction around player power. It's gone too far, after all,
it is like high performance.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Why this is funny to me is because producer Olivia
is the least like she's the least likely person to
be such a misogynist. She's actually very woke, So I
think she's just written that to appeal to me. Yeah, no,
she says, no, yep, never mind, never mind what she
says to me. Guys, have a lovely weekend of sport.
(09:15):
Paul hate By the way, are you calling the NBC?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I am tonight. Yeah, who's been a white kado Otago
will win that one, but narrowly, I think because Whitekato's
been boosted back with some all blacks. Cannibury will knock
over Counties Mannekow the other two tomorrow starting at ten
past four and ten past seven. I can't pick them.
Are really close, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hey, good luck with that. Have a lovely evening and Darcy,
thank you as always for everything. As Paul Allison and
Darcy watergorow our Sports talk O Sports Huddle rather this
evening
Speaker 1 (09:43):
For more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
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