July 3, 2024 • 7 mins
Tonight on the Huddle, Matt Heath from Radio Hauraki and Jack Tame from ZB's Saturday Mornings and Q&A joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
David Seymour has raised some eyebrows after he was caught Snapchatting school-aged students back in 2016. Has the outrage been blown out of proportion?
The Government has introduced more standardised tests for primary schoolers - is this a good idea? Will tests help boost New Zealand's academic prowess?
President Joe Biden has blamed his shaky performance in last week's debate on jet lag. Do we buy this - or is Biden gaslighting voters?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty unparalleled reach
and results.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the Huddle of Me this evening, we've got Matt
Heath of Hodukey and Jack Tame of Saturday Mornings in
Q and a hello are you too?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm very well, Thank you, Matt so on the David
seymour Yn about him messaging the kids.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What do you think.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I think we need to stop treating men like they're
all creeps. It's the sort of sexualization of everything. Sometimes
a man that's an adult can talk to a child
and it has absolutely nothing to do with anything sexual
or creepy. Otherwise, what kind of world are we saying
where adults don't ever talk to children?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Just adult men.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, adult men never talk to children. And not so
long ago, would have been seeing quite wholesome and that
a politician was taking the time out of their life
to talk to a young person and that's reach, you know,
like back in the day if a politician had written
back In fact, I wrote a letter to a politician
when I was a kid and got the letter back
and I was really stoked. There was nothing creepy about
it at all, and so I think people that are
(01:00):
saying this is totally partisan, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I think so, Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I think it's irresponsible to even run a young like
this where there's no evidence of any wrongdoing, but you're
just hunting the guys a creep.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Well, that's the thing. It's like, what's the story. The
second sentence in all of these stories is there's no
suggestion that anything was inappropriate. It's like, oh, great, it's
my story. That's it. As far as I'm concerned, I
when I first saw this, I felt just deeply uncomfortable
about the reporting because it's the insinuation, Yeah, the insinuation
that something inappropriate has happened, whilst at the same time saying, well,
(01:31):
but nothing inappropriate has happened. I'll tell you what would
have made it different, I think, and that's if a
politician in David Seymour's position had instituted the conversation, like
if he had reached out to a young person their
social media, not the other way around. By all of
these from all of the reportings, just that these young
people have reached out to David Seymour and that he
(01:52):
has responded by seeing them an entirely appropriate message back.
So I just, yeah, I think the reporting is absolutely
bordering on being irresponsible personally, because you know, nothing inappropriate
has been suggested. And if we get to a point
where really no politician can respond to anyone under voting age,
(02:13):
I think that's the pretty sad situation for our democracy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Most of us men are actually pretty good people. We're actually,
across the.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Board kind of increased civics education. Are we trying to
increase political mouse and young people are trying to engage
young people more in the political process, right, so in
the same breath, we're getting them not to talk to politicians.
It's funny. Yeah, I think about my own interest in politics,
and I can plot it right back to I can
still remember getting visited by David Carter, by Rod Donald,
(02:43):
by Ruth Dyson when I was in school, when I
was like eight or nine years old. I can remember
they were MP's in our area and they came and
spoke to us in school and it sparked in me
an interesting politics. And I just think we're really at
risk of policing something for which there's absolutely no suggestion
to what for that anything in appropriate has happened.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, Well, David Seymour came to my son's intermediate school
and had quite a good discussion. My son came home
to school and he talked to their class and he
had quite a back and forth with David.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Seymore and to snapchat message.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't go, oh, what was he talking to you about?
What freakat? It was like a politician talking to a
cad and I thought, bluddy, great.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, absolutely what access You're back with the huddle Matt
Heath and Jack Tame Jack, what do you think about
these standardized tests for primary age primary school age kids?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You into it?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Do you know? I actually have no problem with it,
And I don't really understand that the arguments against it
other than teachers the stretch, and I'm not denying for
a moment and that teachers aren't stretched at the moment.
But you know, I mean, from what I can understand, basically,
the standardized tests are designed so that parents have a
good understanding of how their child is progressing. That's how
(03:52):
they're intended to be introduced. Now. The Education Minister herself
has said that there were some issues with national standards
when they were in place, But from what I can see,
I don't think these are going to be so stressful
or so onerous that they're going to have massively negative consequences.
But of course, the proof of the puddings in the eating.
It all depends on how teachers actually rolled out this testing,
and you can you can imagine how in some classroom
(04:15):
environments it might be a bit more stressful for some kids.
And I suppose that's where we're relying on the talents
of teachers to try and get the stress out of
it and just give parents an understanding of where their
kid is at that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Did your kids have them? What did you what did
your kids have the tests?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Did you have them?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Were you not even interested? Ye didn't have the.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
What I remember from my kids being at primary schools
a while ago now, so I can't remember. There's seventeen
and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's not that long ago.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It's long ago for me. I can't remember, but I
do remember. And you're talking about teachers and their time
was I used to be the one that picked the
kids up from school, so I've been waiting in the
front of the class. And there's a certain type of
parent that goes into the class at the end of
school and absolutely punishes the teacher for information on how
their kids go.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Is that you no?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
On the on the I was the dads just looking
for shoes and make sure that all the socks and
shoes got home.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm fascinated by this. You're not You're not into it.
You're not interested in whether they're learning all the stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
No, what I'm saying is this help the teachers. If
the teachers can go, look, we've got a quantified information
on how your kids are going without really concerned parents.
Really really has something after classic, you know, absolutely, But also,
you know, the sooner we can identify problems with kids,
the better. There's no point in trying to work it
out when they're fourteen or fifteen and the horse has bolted.
I mean that multi disciplinary study out of Dunedin was
(05:31):
even saying we need to find it out in the
first three years, in the first you know, before school.
So the sooner you find out that a kid has
a problem and you can identify that and help them,
then then then the better.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Absolutely, Jack, what about Biden's jet lag excuse?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Oh, it's just hopeless. It's just absolutely hopeless. I mean
it's honestly, they're just gaslighting people. But he doesn't have
a problem. I mean it is. It's actually insulting to
or to everyone who wants that, because you're expecting people
to somehow not believe what they saw unfold in the
most calamouous style over ninety minutes. I think it's insulting.
(06:08):
And here's the thing. I'm not denying for a moment
that Biden hasn't had a tough schedule. He's been back
and forth over the Atlantic, He's had all sorts of
things to try and juggle. That's what being president is like. Yeah,
I'm sorry. If you can't keep up with the schedule
right now, then why are we to expect that you
can continue to do this for the next four and
a half.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
To right is right?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Ajax right lighting it is, And it's been happening for
the longest time. You know, American press, the MSNBC, CNN
was saying it was a hoax that this was going on,
and people cutting the footage together of him to make
him look, you know, discompopulated and stuff previously previously had
ninety minutes there was with no.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Ed it was and it was heaven Obama just stopping
for applause. It's not him freezing on stage.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, and then I mean I didn't hear a word
Trump said because I was just totally transfixed with the
screen that Biden was in his facial expressions. I mean,
it's bolted now, and I'm not sure what they can
do about that. I mean right now the longer, and
I don't know if they can get rid of them.
It's incredibly complex. Kimilla is a problem. KRMLA is a problem.
But boy, oh boy, it's you couldn't have set up
(07:14):
a bigger freaking disaster.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What times to live in a How good? We're tenna
grandkids about this stuff, aren't we?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It's concerning, It's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Hey, thank you very much appreciated from the pair of you,
Jack tam of Matt Heath, how hrdle
Speaker 1 (07:25):
This evening For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen
live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's international realty unparalleled reach
and results.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
On the Huddle of Me this evening, we've got Matt
Heath of Hodukey and Jack Tame of Saturday Mornings in
Q and a hello are you too?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm very well, Thank you, Matt so on the David
seymour Yn about him messaging the kids.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What do you think.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I think we need to stop treating men like they're
all creeps. It's the sort of sexualization of everything. Sometimes
a man that's an adult can talk to a child
and it has absolutely nothing to do with anything sexual
or creepy. Otherwise, what kind of world are we saying
where adults don't ever talk to children?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Just adult men.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah, adult men never talk to children. And not so
long ago, would have been seeing quite wholesome and that
a politician was taking the time out of their life
to talk to a young person and that's reach, you know,
like back in the day if a politician had written
back In fact, I wrote a letter to a politician
when I was a kid and got the letter back
and I was really stoked. There was nothing creepy about
it at all, and so I think people that are
(01:00):
saying this is totally partisan, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I think so, Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I think it's irresponsible to even run a young like
this where there's no evidence of any wrongdoing, but you're
just hunting the guys a creep.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Well, that's the thing. It's like, what's the story. The
second sentence in all of these stories is there's no
suggestion that anything was inappropriate. It's like, oh, great, it's
my story. That's it. As far as I'm concerned, I
when I first saw this, I felt just deeply uncomfortable
about the reporting because it's the insinuation, Yeah, the insinuation
that something inappropriate has happened, whilst at the same time saying, well,
(01:31):
but nothing inappropriate has happened. I'll tell you what would
have made it different, I think, and that's if a
politician in David Seymour's position had instituted the conversation, like
if he had reached out to a young person their
social media, not the other way around. By all of
these from all of the reportings, just that these young
people have reached out to David Seymour and that he
(01:52):
has responded by seeing them an entirely appropriate message back.
So I just, yeah, I think the reporting is absolutely
bordering on being irresponsible personally, because you know, nothing inappropriate
has been suggested. And if we get to a point
where really no politician can respond to anyone under voting age,
(02:13):
I think that's the pretty sad situation for our democracy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Most of us men are actually pretty good people. We're actually,
across the.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Board kind of increased civics education. Are we trying to
increase political mouse and young people are trying to engage
young people more in the political process, right, so in
the same breath, we're getting them not to talk to politicians.
It's funny. Yeah, I think about my own interest in politics,
and I can plot it right back to I can
still remember getting visited by David Carter, by Rod Donald,
(02:43):
by Ruth Dyson when I was in school, when I
was like eight or nine years old. I can remember
they were MP's in our area and they came and
spoke to us in school and it sparked in me
an interesting politics. And I just think we're really at
risk of policing something for which there's absolutely no suggestion
to what for that anything in appropriate has happened.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yeah, Well, David Seymour came to my son's intermediate school
and had quite a good discussion. My son came home
to school and he talked to their class and he
had quite a back and forth with David.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Seymore and to snapchat message.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't go, oh, what was he talking to you about?
What freakat? It was like a politician talking to a
cad and I thought, bluddy, great.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, absolutely what access You're back with the huddle Matt
Heath and Jack Tame Jack, what do you think about
these standardized tests for primary age primary school age kids?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You into it?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Do you know? I actually have no problem with it,
And I don't really understand that the arguments against it
other than teachers the stretch, and I'm not denying for
a moment and that teachers aren't stretched at the moment.
But you know, I mean, from what I can understand, basically,
the standardized tests are designed so that parents have a
good understanding of how their child is progressing. That's how
(03:52):
they're intended to be introduced. Now. The Education Minister herself
has said that there were some issues with national standards
when they were in place, But from what I can see,
I don't think these are going to be so stressful
or so onerous that they're going to have massively negative consequences.
But of course, the proof of the puddings in the eating.
It all depends on how teachers actually rolled out this testing,
and you can you can imagine how in some classroom
(04:15):
environments it might be a bit more stressful for some kids.
And I suppose that's where we're relying on the talents
of teachers to try and get the stress out of
it and just give parents an understanding of where their
kid is at that.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Did your kids have them? What did you what did
your kids have the tests?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Did you have them?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Were you not even interested? Ye didn't have the.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
What I remember from my kids being at primary schools
a while ago now, so I can't remember. There's seventeen
and fourteen.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's not that long ago.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It's long ago for me. I can't remember, but I
do remember. And you're talking about teachers and their time
was I used to be the one that picked the
kids up from school, so I've been waiting in the
front of the class. And there's a certain type of
parent that goes into the class at the end of
school and absolutely punishes the teacher for information on how
their kids go.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Is that you no?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
On the on the I was the dads just looking
for shoes and make sure that all the socks and
shoes got home.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm fascinated by this. You're not You're not into it.
You're not interested in whether they're learning all the stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
No, what I'm saying is this help the teachers. If
the teachers can go, look, we've got a quantified information
on how your kids are going without really concerned parents.
Really really has something after classic, you know, absolutely, But also,
you know, the sooner we can identify problems with kids,
the better. There's no point in trying to work it
out when they're fourteen or fifteen and the horse has bolted.
I mean that multi disciplinary study out of Dunedin was
(05:31):
even saying we need to find it out in the
first three years, in the first you know, before school.
So the sooner you find out that a kid has
a problem and you can identify that and help them,
then then then the better.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Absolutely, Jack, what about Biden's jet lag excuse?
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Oh, it's just hopeless. It's just absolutely hopeless. I mean
it's honestly, they're just gaslighting people. But he doesn't have
a problem. I mean it is. It's actually insulting to
or to everyone who wants that, because you're expecting people
to somehow not believe what they saw unfold in the
most calamouous style over ninety minutes. I think it's insulting.
(06:08):
And here's the thing. I'm not denying for a moment
that Biden hasn't had a tough schedule. He's been back
and forth over the Atlantic, He's had all sorts of
things to try and juggle. That's what being president is like. Yeah,
I'm sorry. If you can't keep up with the schedule
right now, then why are we to expect that you
can continue to do this for the next four and
a half.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
To right is right?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Ajax right lighting it is, And it's been happening for
the longest time. You know, American press, the MSNBC, CNN
was saying it was a hoax that this was going on,
and people cutting the footage together of him to make
him look, you know, discompopulated and stuff previously previously had
ninety minutes there was with no.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Ed it was and it was heaven Obama just stopping
for applause. It's not him freezing on stage.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Yeah, and then I mean I didn't hear a word
Trump said because I was just totally transfixed with the
screen that Biden was in his facial expressions. I mean,
it's bolted now, and I'm not sure what they can
do about that. I mean right now the longer, and
I don't know if they can get rid of them.
It's incredibly complex. Kimilla is a problem. KRMLA is a problem.
But boy, oh boy, it's you couldn't have set up
(07:14):
a bigger freaking disaster.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
What times to live in a How good? We're tenna
grandkids about this stuff, aren't we?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
It's concerning, It's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Hey, thank you very much appreciated from the pair of you,
Jack tam of Matt Heath, how hrdle
Speaker 1 (07:25):
This evening For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen
live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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