July 28, 2025 • 11 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR and former Labour minister Stuart Nash joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
The Government is banning retailers from charging credit card surcharges - but banks are still allowed to charge the retailers. What do we make of this? Is this unfair for retailers?
Prime Minister Chris Luxon got booed at the ANZ Premiership grand final yesterday. Is this a bad sign?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Unique Homes,
Uniquely for you, I'm the huddle with me.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
This evening, we have Trish Sharson of Sheerson Willis pr
And in studio with Stuart Nash, former Labor Police Minister.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hello you too, Llo.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I love that that's what they've labeled you, former Labor
Police Minister instead of your current job. Anyway, it's nice
to have you here, Stu, and it's obviously nice to
have you here Trish. Trish, do you think the surcharged
ban is a good move?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I think the government is banking on this being good
retail politics. Excuse the pun. There's a lot of grumpiness
amongst people, and I know I'm one of them because
I love to use payWave, but the minute I go
and use payWave, there's an extra surcharge put on. I
think one of the problems for the government is, and
you hear it from these small businesses coming in tonight,
(00:48):
that they are increasingly seen as a government that's more
about consumers than for business. And they might think that's
a good thing, but from in terms of their course base,
a national government cannot afford to lose the business audience
big or small.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So do you think it's a political miscalculation.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think they think they're on the right side of
the calculation. And I have to say I do think
that anything a searcharge. When I go and there's anything
over one or two percent, I think, actually this is
just building in an additional reveuge. Very Manu stream in Margin.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Are you still cross about the ticketmaster in the air
New Zealand because they can keep on doing it they're
unaffected by the band.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But isn't that the thing? As a consumer, there is
nothing worse than seeing here's the price, here's the price,
and then you get to the end and the price
has gone up by ten, twenty to thirty dollars because
of all these extra charges. I think that's really poor,
and I agree with you that needs to be addressed
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't think this is good to you. I don't
think this is going to impress anybody else.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
It's gone after the wrong people. They should be going
after the banks. The banks are the guys that put
the searcharge for the retailers got to pay. When I
was mister small business, which is nothing we did. We
had a good look at this and you know we're
paying about twice as much as they do in Australia,
about three times as much as they do in the UK.
Shane Jones, if he was doing this, he would go
after the banks. Now that is good politics, not going
(02:11):
after the retailers. But the guys that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Are making it good politics. Those to you. But it
is the actual problem. I mean, it's a billion dollars
in costs every year. That's just in the interchange fee right.
There will be more on top of that in the
total merchant fee. So why not do it? This feels
to me like a rush.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Job, an absolute rush job. And I completely agree with Trish.
You know, this has got to be seen as as
a party that is business freely. You know this was
lux and trusts me Iran in New Zealand. I know
what I'm doing. He doesn't know what he's doing at all.
But going after retailers. Man, at this point in the
economic cycle, wrong play.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now the point I know that you've you know, people
who are in government because you're sucking up that heart
just New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
First, at the moment.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I had heard, I had heard that this is unfortunately
a government that is lurching from week to week coming
up with announcements and the smacks of that is that
you're hearing.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, I've said this time and time again. I
think there is a level of ineptitude on the ninth
floor for listeners who don't know that's the Prime Minister's
office that we haven't seen in a long, long term.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well there hasn't been that long since. Just no, I
mad come on, come on, well if you think.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We would have seen this under Wayne Eagleson and John
Key or Heather Simpson and how I hope and how
this is really this is back to Tricia's point, this
is just bad politics if nothing else. At a point
in time when people are beginning to think, okay, yeah,
who will I vote for? Views are getting formed, political
decisions are being made, and this sort of thing is
just noise that I don't think the government needs to
(03:36):
go there.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Three quick points. Number one, Let's remember someone has to
pay for the system. Someone has to pay for the
system that hooks all of this up. So the government
has had a look at interchange fees as well, and
they're going after the front end and this is similar
to what's happened in Australia. Number two, just on a
higher level around the present government and the previous I've
(03:58):
got two two main issues. Number one, we are becoming
more and more short termism and reactionary. And number two
what we're seeing, And I would argue this is one
of those announcements today we are seeing the generation of
politicians who were helicopter parented are now in charge of
the country. Everyone is being helicopter parented. No one can
(04:19):
lose ever, you know, all our battles are forty or
you can't be paying too much.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
For buttons while we go up the steps.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, exactly. And I think if I lift up to
that higher level, that is as a voter, that's my
biggest concern with governments, the previous one, your mates, Hue,
and also this current government.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, but let's get back to the point. Go after
the banks. The banks are making literally billions of dollars
off bloody Kiwis, and this is another way they're wraughting
us completely and matterly. But the government's going after the retailers.
Bad politics.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I totally agree. It's another example of the government's
going after the Kiwis on this one instead of the
Aussie banks.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
The huddle with new Zealand Southeby's International Realty. The ones
fun last results.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But you're back with the huddle Stewart Nash and Trishurson. Stu,
what do you make of the Prime Minister getting booed
at the netball Look?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
No matter what you think of the guy, that's just
bad for when did Key we start booing politicians? I mean,
for goodness sake the guy. My view on this is
I don't necessarily like who the Prime Minister is at times,
but you've got to respect the position. The guy's there,
he's representing Ze and he's working really really hard. Like
I said, it doesn't matter where you like or not,
but booing a prime minister, come on, Key Wis you
can do better than that.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I agree Barry Soper reckons that netball crowds are just
left and working class and it's to be expected.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I heard I heard Barry lame to a netball game
and I thought, we need to book Barrier ticket to
the next netball game and send her off with a
big sign hello, I'm Barry so so, but the crowd
can identify it. A couple of things on this I
agree with Stu. I think this is really performed and
if you and I love the way the MC at
that event tried to bring it back to the sport
(05:55):
and say, hey, hey guys, come on, this is you know,
it's about the game. A couple of things. I think
this will be tough for the Nats at the stage
in the electoral cycle. I think it reflects the mood
music that is around at the moment people are feeling.
And I don't think at the moment it's not just
(06:16):
people not liking politicians. They're feeling so much in their
back pocket that they really are feeling pissed off about it.
So that's fair enough. The other thing to think about
in this, I'd say this to you, Barry Soper, if
you're listening at home, the netball crowd. Isn't the Wellington
protest fringe to me? This is Middle New Zealand mums
(06:39):
in that big bell curve of voters that National needs. Yes,
they are women taking their girls predominantly to these games.
And there is a problem for National which they already
know about about the women's vote. So you know, you
can put aside the noise, but they need to hear
the signal.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And if you are getting booed by women in west Aukland.
You've got a problem, haven't you.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You got to mess a problem. The Nats have always
had a problem, and Luxon and particular's have got a
problem with the woman vote. I don't know what they
do about that. Whatever they do isn't working at this
point in time. But Tritius, right, there's a general there's
a general dissatisfaction with politicians. Right. There is no hero
leader out there or even waiting in the wings. Luxon
is not John Key, Hipkins is not just Cinda when
she was really popular. There's no Helen Clark there. There's
(07:22):
no one who you can identify in any party and
say that is a future prime minister. Where we did
with John Key, we kind of did with Jasinda. No
one there. So people are, people are becoming more and
more disenfranchised, which just opens the you know, opens the
way for others potentially.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, and think about John I didn't you should ask
with short here, but you know, remember think about John
john Key. He was mobbed wherever he went, when he
was revered where wherever he went. And you know Jacinda
had quite a bit of that at the start. So
I think this is pretty unusual.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I think it's unusual too. I mean, it is dead
of winter, and you know, worst recession in maybe thirty
to fifty years, but it's still.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, it's a sign of times, right.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But also that's a great point to remember, Heather, this
is the worst recession for thirty years, and I think
politicians tend to gloss over that, and there's a lot
of talk about it's all going well and there are
these green shoots, but the reality is most New Zealanders
have seen some green shoots, but now they're frostbitten.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, but let's be aware. Let's not make excuses for
what I consider to be really bad behavior. Maybe I'm
just a boy from the regions, a little bit out
of touch, but you know, you don't boo prime ministers
at sports games like this if you don't like them.
Just keep quiet. For God's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yep, I think you bang on. Now, did either of
you guys, I'm going to talk about gentle parenting in
a minute. Did either of you guys do the gentle
parenting with the kids?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
What on earth is that gentle parenting?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You go, oh, Eggie, you had mummy in the face
or you must be having a really big emotion. Would
you like to talk to me about? Absolutely not, I
mean time, what is the problems?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
The first rule with children is never negotiate with the rist.
And from the minute that child appears in the world,
they need to know who is in charge.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Look, it's a parent's job to teach them respect, right.
Guess Look, I've got four kids. Two of them are one,
twenty three, one twenty one. They are my friends. I've
got a thirteen year old and eleven year old. I
am their father. And there's a completely different relationship between
the younger ones and the old ones, as it should be,
and they more from you know, they more from young
ones that you need to teach about life in two
(09:26):
people who can live their own life, and then they
become friends. This whole bullshit that you're talking about here
is in no.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Place, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Ark. Can I give you an old fashioned view on
what the way to really help kids know how to
be a great human being. If parents focus on teaching
children how to sit at a dinner table and eat
what's put in front of them and be grateful for
it and interact with everyone around the table, that is
pretty much every life lesson you will need going forward.
(09:56):
So in our house it was always dinner time was
a real thing. You have to engage, you have to
have great chat, and you have to whatever's put on
your head, you have great chat.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Would you be like, oh, come, so what you can't
have your cell phone and be watching television at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Absolutely cannot.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You need to come out to our place. I completely
agree manners engaging, no cell phones, no TV. It's a
time when the family gathers one hundred percent agree, go
back to that were halfway.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I saw a parent recently. I loved it. This was
in the eye of the supermarket and he had a
little girl, absolutely gorgeous, is probably about three or four.
She knew she had dad, absolutely on the ropes, and
she reaches out and takes it, snatches something off the
candy bar. You could see him. He actually went pale
because he knew the minute he approached her she was
going to just he.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Was tiptoeing around her little emotion, she was.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Going to take the alert level from amber to read,
which is exactly what she did. And so do you
know what he did? He went, Oh, we'll just have it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know who that knowing your audience. I doubt there's
anyone out there here to agree with this. What do
you call it? Wake parenting wouldn't took care of the
vast majority understand that parents are there for a reason.
They're they're there to teach their kids about right and wrong.
Sometimes I don't get it right, but more often not
they do. Gingle parent I.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Think you're speaking like a man from Hawks Bay. You
can hang out in where she does.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Here's a little plug for my kids, which were classic,
you know, Grayland grown up kids. They are absolutely top
human beings. They are great because they were not gentle,
because they were certainly not gentle parented.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Look, I've got to be honest. I did not expect
that I would just throw that out to you and
you just go for five minutes.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, here are you going to make sure you don't
gentle parent? I can't imagine bears being a gentle parent.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, and if we if we keep gentle parenting kids,
we're going to end up with more governments like we've
just been complaining.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
About exactly anyway I'm going to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's lovely to have the pair of you in studio.
Thank you so much. Stu Nash, and Tris Sharson.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
This evening, we have Trish Sharson of Sheerson Willis pr
And in studio with Stuart Nash, former Labor Police Minister.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hello you too, Llo.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I love that that's what they've labeled you, former Labor
Police Minister instead of your current job. Anyway, it's nice
to have you here, Stu, and it's obviously nice to
have you here Trish. Trish, do you think the surcharged
ban is a good move?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I think the government is banking on this being good
retail politics. Excuse the pun. There's a lot of grumpiness
amongst people, and I know I'm one of them because
I love to use payWave, but the minute I go
and use payWave, there's an extra surcharge put on. I
think one of the problems for the government is, and
you hear it from these small businesses coming in tonight,
(00:48):
that they are increasingly seen as a government that's more
about consumers than for business. And they might think that's
a good thing, but from in terms of their course base,
a national government cannot afford to lose the business audience
big or small.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So do you think it's a political miscalculation.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think they think they're on the right side of
the calculation. And I have to say I do think
that anything a searcharge. When I go and there's anything
over one or two percent, I think, actually this is
just building in an additional reveuge. Very Manu stream in Margin.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Are you still cross about the ticketmaster in the air
New Zealand because they can keep on doing it they're
unaffected by the band.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But isn't that the thing? As a consumer, there is
nothing worse than seeing here's the price, here's the price,
and then you get to the end and the price
has gone up by ten, twenty to thirty dollars because
of all these extra charges. I think that's really poor,
and I agree with you that needs to be addressed
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't think this is good to you. I don't
think this is going to impress anybody else.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
It's gone after the wrong people. They should be going
after the banks. The banks are the guys that put
the searcharge for the retailers got to pay. When I
was mister small business, which is nothing we did. We
had a good look at this and you know we're
paying about twice as much as they do in Australia,
about three times as much as they do in the UK.
Shane Jones, if he was doing this, he would go
after the banks. Now that is good politics, not going
(02:11):
after the retailers. But the guys that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Are making it good politics. Those to you. But it
is the actual problem. I mean, it's a billion dollars
in costs every year. That's just in the interchange fee right.
There will be more on top of that in the
total merchant fee. So why not do it? This feels
to me like a rush.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Job, an absolute rush job. And I completely agree with Trish.
You know, this has got to be seen as as
a party that is business freely. You know this was
lux and trusts me Iran in New Zealand. I know
what I'm doing. He doesn't know what he's doing at all.
But going after retailers. Man, at this point in the
economic cycle, wrong play.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now the point I know that you've you know, people
who are in government because you're sucking up that heart
just New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
First, at the moment.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I had heard, I had heard that this is unfortunately
a government that is lurching from week to week coming
up with announcements and the smacks of that is that
you're hearing.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
You know, I've said this time and time again. I
think there is a level of ineptitude on the ninth
floor for listeners who don't know that's the Prime Minister's
office that we haven't seen in a long, long term.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well there hasn't been that long since. Just no, I
mad come on, come on, well if you think.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We would have seen this under Wayne Eagleson and John
Key or Heather Simpson and how I hope and how
this is really this is back to Tricia's point, this
is just bad politics if nothing else. At a point
in time when people are beginning to think, okay, yeah,
who will I vote for? Views are getting formed, political
decisions are being made, and this sort of thing is
just noise that I don't think the government needs to
(03:36):
go there.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Three quick points. Number one, Let's remember someone has to
pay for the system. Someone has to pay for the
system that hooks all of this up. So the government
has had a look at interchange fees as well, and
they're going after the front end and this is similar
to what's happened in Australia. Number two, just on a
higher level around the present government and the previous I've
(03:58):
got two two main issues. Number one, we are becoming
more and more short termism and reactionary. And number two
what we're seeing, And I would argue this is one
of those announcements today we are seeing the generation of
politicians who were helicopter parented are now in charge of
the country. Everyone is being helicopter parented. No one can
(04:19):
lose ever, you know, all our battles are forty or
you can't be paying too much.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
For buttons while we go up the steps.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, exactly. And I think if I lift up to
that higher level, that is as a voter, that's my
biggest concern with governments, the previous one, your mates, Hue,
and also this current government.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, but let's get back to the point. Go after
the banks. The banks are making literally billions of dollars
off bloody Kiwis, and this is another way they're wraughting
us completely and matterly. But the government's going after the retailers.
Bad politics.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I totally agree. It's another example of the government's
going after the Kiwis on this one instead of the
Aussie banks.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
The huddle with new Zealand Southeby's International Realty. The ones
fun last results.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But you're back with the huddle Stewart Nash and Trishurson. Stu,
what do you make of the Prime Minister getting booed
at the netball Look?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
No matter what you think of the guy, that's just
bad for when did Key we start booing politicians? I mean,
for goodness sake the guy. My view on this is
I don't necessarily like who the Prime Minister is at times,
but you've got to respect the position. The guy's there,
he's representing Ze and he's working really really hard. Like
I said, it doesn't matter where you like or not,
but booing a prime minister, come on, Key Wis you
can do better than that.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I agree Barry Soper reckons that netball crowds are just
left and working class and it's to be expected.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I heard I heard Barry lame to a netball game
and I thought, we need to book Barrier ticket to
the next netball game and send her off with a
big sign hello, I'm Barry so so, but the crowd
can identify it. A couple of things on this I
agree with Stu. I think this is really performed and
if you and I love the way the MC at
that event tried to bring it back to the sport
(05:55):
and say, hey, hey guys, come on, this is you know,
it's about the game. A couple of things. I think
this will be tough for the Nats at the stage
in the electoral cycle. I think it reflects the mood
music that is around at the moment people are feeling.
And I don't think at the moment it's not just
(06:16):
people not liking politicians. They're feeling so much in their
back pocket that they really are feeling pissed off about it.
So that's fair enough. The other thing to think about
in this, I'd say this to you, Barry Soper, if
you're listening at home, the netball crowd. Isn't the Wellington
protest fringe to me? This is Middle New Zealand mums
(06:39):
in that big bell curve of voters that National needs. Yes,
they are women taking their girls predominantly to these games.
And there is a problem for National which they already
know about about the women's vote. So you know, you
can put aside the noise, but they need to hear
the signal.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And if you are getting booed by women in west Aukland.
You've got a problem, haven't you.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You got to mess a problem. The Nats have always
had a problem, and Luxon and particular's have got a
problem with the woman vote. I don't know what they
do about that. Whatever they do isn't working at this
point in time. But Tritius, right, there's a general there's
a general dissatisfaction with politicians. Right. There is no hero
leader out there or even waiting in the wings. Luxon
is not John Key, Hipkins is not just Cinda when
she was really popular. There's no Helen Clark there. There's
(07:22):
no one who you can identify in any party and
say that is a future prime minister. Where we did
with John Key, we kind of did with Jasinda. No
one there. So people are, people are becoming more and
more disenfranchised, which just opens the you know, opens the
way for others potentially.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, and think about John I didn't you should ask
with short here, but you know, remember think about John
john Key. He was mobbed wherever he went, when he
was revered where wherever he went. And you know Jacinda
had quite a bit of that at the start. So
I think this is pretty unusual.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I think it's unusual too. I mean, it is dead
of winter, and you know, worst recession in maybe thirty
to fifty years, but it's still.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Well, it's a sign of times, right.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But also that's a great point to remember, Heather, this
is the worst recession for thirty years, and I think
politicians tend to gloss over that, and there's a lot
of talk about it's all going well and there are
these green shoots, but the reality is most New Zealanders
have seen some green shoots, but now they're frostbitten.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah, but let's be aware. Let's not make excuses for
what I consider to be really bad behavior. Maybe I'm
just a boy from the regions, a little bit out
of touch, but you know, you don't boo prime ministers
at sports games like this if you don't like them.
Just keep quiet. For God's saying.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yep, I think you bang on. Now, did either of
you guys, I'm going to talk about gentle parenting in
a minute. Did either of you guys do the gentle
parenting with the kids?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
What on earth is that gentle parenting?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You go, oh, Eggie, you had mummy in the face
or you must be having a really big emotion. Would
you like to talk to me about? Absolutely not, I
mean time, what is the problems?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
The first rule with children is never negotiate with the rist.
And from the minute that child appears in the world,
they need to know who is in charge.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Look, it's a parent's job to teach them respect, right.
Guess Look, I've got four kids. Two of them are one,
twenty three, one twenty one. They are my friends. I've
got a thirteen year old and eleven year old. I
am their father. And there's a completely different relationship between
the younger ones and the old ones, as it should be,
and they more from you know, they more from young
ones that you need to teach about life in two
(09:26):
people who can live their own life, and then they
become friends. This whole bullshit that you're talking about here
is in no.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Place, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Ark. Can I give you an old fashioned view on
what the way to really help kids know how to
be a great human being. If parents focus on teaching
children how to sit at a dinner table and eat
what's put in front of them and be grateful for
it and interact with everyone around the table, that is
pretty much every life lesson you will need going forward.
(09:56):
So in our house it was always dinner time was
a real thing. You have to engage, you have to
have great chat, and you have to whatever's put on
your head, you have great chat.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Would you be like, oh, come, so what you can't
have your cell phone and be watching television at the
same time.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Absolutely cannot.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You need to come out to our place. I completely
agree manners engaging, no cell phones, no TV. It's a
time when the family gathers one hundred percent agree, go
back to that were halfway.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I saw a parent recently. I loved it. This was
in the eye of the supermarket and he had a
little girl, absolutely gorgeous, is probably about three or four.
She knew she had dad, absolutely on the ropes, and
she reaches out and takes it, snatches something off the
candy bar. You could see him. He actually went pale
because he knew the minute he approached her she was
going to just he.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Was tiptoeing around her little emotion, she was.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Going to take the alert level from amber to read,
which is exactly what she did. And so do you
know what he did? He went, Oh, we'll just have it.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
You know who that knowing your audience. I doubt there's
anyone out there here to agree with this. What do
you call it? Wake parenting wouldn't took care of the
vast majority understand that parents are there for a reason.
They're they're there to teach their kids about right and wrong.
Sometimes I don't get it right, but more often not
they do. Gingle parent I.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Think you're speaking like a man from Hawks Bay. You
can hang out in where she does.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Here's a little plug for my kids, which were classic,
you know, Grayland grown up kids. They are absolutely top
human beings. They are great because they were not gentle,
because they were certainly not gentle parented.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Look, I've got to be honest. I did not expect
that I would just throw that out to you and
you just go for five minutes.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, here are you going to make sure you don't
gentle parent? I can't imagine bears being a gentle parent.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, and if we if we keep gentle parenting kids,
we're going to end up with more governments like we've
just been complaining.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
About exactly anyway I'm going to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's lovely to have the pair of you in studio.
Thank you so much. Stu Nash, and Tris Sharson.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
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